1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. We'll struggling here, uh in the early days 4 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: of camp big boss man. He's out today, So you 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: got fortunate because I won't get him to punch, which 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: was my goal of the last year. Just wrote in 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: asking about about Lebrian Ray. Yeah. Perfect, Yeah, we've gotten 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: to Lebrian Ray portion. I thought that Paul nailed it 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: when he said it's another one of the there's another 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: one that's gonna go follow. In this business, the line 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: of scrimmage has been dominated by the defense through two 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: padded practices. Really, Paul, what have you seeing? What do 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: the mechanics look like? Can you give us some insight. 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest and say I've stopped watching regular 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: season game with twenty nineteen they lost to the Dolphins advantage, 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: and you can scoff. The whole thing goes back to 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: Mike was right. Football illness are not football but probably 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: a non football illness. I don't think it's football related flu. 19 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: I don't. This is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan, all right, 20 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: we are back here, Patriots, unfiltered. Welcome in, guys. It 21 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: is Thursday. I think it's Thursday. We just got off 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: the field practice number eight and it was a hot 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: one out there today, A nice breefe though, Paul, I 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: think that was that made it a little bit comfortable 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: out there. I would agree. We went up to our purse. 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: I was expecting the worst. Yeah, it was. It was bad. 27 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: We were kind of expecting a lot today, and I 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: think across the board a lot of those expectations weren't 29 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: quite met in many avenues. Yeah, I mean, at this point, 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: Mike get all seriousness. I I do wonder if maybe 31 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: there's just a little bit of you know what this is, 32 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: what kind of what we're expecting we need to get 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: these bass plays in, maybe some of the defensive looks, 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: or you know that that's not as scripted as maybe 35 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: you know other times, and this struggling. I just feel 36 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: like it still looks to me like Mac is having 37 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: a hard time consistently finding open guys. I thought there 38 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: were times when it appeared that there were some options, 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: some opportunities, and then even on those he's sort of 40 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: holding the ball a little bit longer. I've seen him 41 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: hold the ball more often in this camp than I 42 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: did the entirety of last spring and summer. Yeah, I mean, 43 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: I would you agree with that? I do agree with you, 44 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: And I was thinking about it yesterday, and you know, 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: it's just an unfortunate realization. And I think you're living 46 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: in a place of how much is acceptable at this point? 47 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: And at what point do you feel like you're not 48 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: getting enough done and not getting those things corrected and 49 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: in order With a game coming up, we talked about 50 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: we got an in stadium practice. Bill Belichick said this 51 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: morning that that's going to be kind of the game 52 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: day mechanics, where what tunnel you come out if there's 53 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: not going to be you know, some extensive field work 54 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: tomorrow night inside the stadium. And as of right now, 55 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: they're supposed to be off Saturday Sunday and then there's 56 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: going to be two practices next week and then a game. 57 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: So is that what you did? You hear it? No? 58 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: I haven't, but I haven't. I mean, they announced two 59 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: more practices Monday Tuesday. Haven't seen. I didn't. I didn't know. 60 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: I didn't know. I was not aware of the Sunday 61 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: there just hasn't been Tuesday updates. I mean, I think 62 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: we're all anticipating that maybe there should be a practice there. 63 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean, as much as maybe we don't want to. 64 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: I was anticipating practice on Sunday. I'm still kind of 65 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: having my radar up for it. They usually don't get 66 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: two days off. But if they announced practice is open 67 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 1: to the public on Monday and Tuesday, then I guess 68 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: is the practicing. But it's not open. So it's a 69 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: little bit striking that that, you know, it's just offensively, 70 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: it hasn't really been able to put place together. And 71 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: I think you laid it out well, Paul. It was 72 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: you know, I mean a lot of people I saw 73 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: it early in camp. Guys aren't getting open. I agree 74 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: with though though there were guys open, it just doesn't 75 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: seem like Max seine it right now, and they're not 76 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: executing consistently. There's a play here, a play there, but 77 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: it's it's just nothing. Here's what I wonder, And this 78 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: is a really really big picture kind of thing that 79 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: maybe is not conducive for the you know, the middle 80 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: of training camp, which let's face it, I know it 81 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: seems like it just started Mike. But in terms of 82 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: what we'll we'll be able to watch. There's a long 83 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: way to go for the team, but in terms of 84 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: our viewing, we're gonna get about sixteen or seventeen practices halfway, 85 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: So we're almost halfway there. So we've seen about what 86 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna you know, half of what we're gonna see. 87 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: It just looks like a bunch of guys that aren't 88 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: really like I don't know if they have a conviction 89 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: and what they're doing. And you know, when I say 90 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys, I mean I don't. This is 91 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: not on mac Jones. Please don't take this as Paul 92 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: is killing the quarterback again. I'm not. I just wonder 93 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: if some of the stuff they're doing is things that 94 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: they're not overly comfortable with, and when you don't fully 95 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: believe in it, I think it's hard to execute it. Now. 96 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: That's one part. There's another part. We had a little 97 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: bit of a conversation upstairs about the whole Shanahan offense. 98 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: And I used air quotes because who knows exactly what 99 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: they're doing for a system? Okay, but if they are 100 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: to be running this new version of these you know, 101 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't it be more like the issue and there have 102 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: been issues in the running game, but should it be 103 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: affecting the passing in as much as it is exactly? 104 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: Isn't the passing game execution on the training camp practice 105 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: field level more about you go out, You're supposed to 106 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: run this route, Go run it and beat the guy 107 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: covering you, and you throw it to him like that's 108 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: that to me is not overly schematic. It's not like 109 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: I used to be able to run a route and 110 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: get open when it was doing it that way. Now 111 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time because we're doing it this way. 112 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, very simplistic, you know, neo fhight football observer. 113 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not trying to tell you I know 114 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: what the uh you know, the whole intent outs are. 115 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: And that was the hope I, you know, going into 116 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: practice today. Bill in his pre camp sorry some banging 117 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: going on here it is pre camp press conference, said, 118 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna get into a little bit more 119 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: situational stuff today, a little bit more in the middle 120 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: of the field. And I think that's what I had 121 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: kind of been waiting for to see. You know, the 122 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: coach is not rushing in, you know, some kind of 123 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: continuity between between the lays, especially in the passing game, 124 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: like you said, where that's what that's what's been clunky. 125 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: It hasn't you know. It's fine if you want to 126 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: talk about zone runs and all that, but it's the 127 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: passing game that just doesn't seem like they're seeing it yet. 128 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: Now that maybe that means that they will see it eventually. 129 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: Maybe mac Jones will, you know, get more comfortable and 130 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: seem to know where to go quickly with the ball. 131 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: But I think your point at the top was it 132 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: was a great one and that's the strength of mac 133 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: Jones when he came in, was identifying with the coverage 134 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: is quick decision get the ball out. That was you 135 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: know why they why they love him. We're not seeing 136 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: so much of that. I mean, I would almost say, 137 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: and you know I'm not. I'm not trying to stir 138 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: the pot, but you know, Bailey's athlete has had a 139 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: couple throws. What I felt like, it's funny because we 140 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: keep joking about it every day and now all of 141 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: a sudden it's been three or four days. And don't 142 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: discount I said, I used to say this stuff last 143 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: year when it was Cam Newton and Mac Jones. Don't 144 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: discount that one guy's getting a different look than another, 145 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, and who he's playing against. And I do 146 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: think that maybe for Zappy it's more about, hey, we 147 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: need to execute the place. You just need the reps 148 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: to get Because I thought it was interesting today that 149 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: Hoyer was back, you know, fully fully back in full uniform, 150 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: and Zappy got the two you know, the second reps. 151 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: Now that makes sense. Soon Howyer missed five days, give 152 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: him a little time to get reacclimated. I did think 153 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: he looked a little rusty throwing the ball in some 154 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: of the other drills, but the full eleven on eleven 155 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: it was Mac Jones and then Bailey Zappy, two different sets. Yeah, 156 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: and I thought, you know, you're right. I mean, if 157 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: I have to, if I'm going to be honest and fair, 158 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: when the players are running Zappy, he's running them. They 159 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: look better. Now everything you said is accurate. He's doing 160 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: it against third stringers and with backups, and there's still 161 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: plenty of times that he has to pull the ball 162 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: down and run around too. It's not exactly been a 163 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: juggernaut when he's out right well as you guys can 164 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: probably tell it's just Mike and Paul right now. We 165 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: are expecting more people to be joining us. Evan will 166 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: be coming in a little bit. He's up writing right now. 167 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: But sometimes all the interviews spill over and people are 168 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: off doing various things. So we jumped right in at 169 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: the top on kind of the offense, which of course 170 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: feels like the big headline of training camp as far. 171 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: But but let's get some housekeeping stuff out of the 172 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: way too. Guys back today Jibrol Pepper's Malcolm Butler and 173 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: and Hoyer numbers three, four and five. So back in 174 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: pads today after pulling back yesterday. Unfortunately, it looked like 175 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: maybe a significant injury to to Gilani Tavai. That's gonna 176 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: be something we're gonna need to keep an eye on. 177 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: There was definitely a lot of concern, I would say, 178 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: on the field for him. Um it was. I mean, 179 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: there was a couple of different accounts. It seemed like 180 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: it was a non contact kind of an injury. It 181 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: looked like and I talked to a couple of different 182 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: people and it said it looked like he was sort 183 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: of moving in and kind of buckled. It wasn't but 184 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: it could have been. It was a running place, so 185 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: it could have been maybe Aligneman got got on him 186 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: a little bit. But it didn't look good. It didn't. 187 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: It didn't look good. And I know that like Steve 188 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: Belichick and Gerard Mayo both went with him to the 189 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: medical temp bill, you know, the linebacker coaches obviously with 190 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: a linebacker, UM, you don't ever want to lose lose 191 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: any players, especially in a practice setting. So that was unfortunate. Yeah, 192 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: we've talked about They've had pretty good health so far 193 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: and been pretty lucky. Guys that have gone out of 194 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: have all been at least back or you know there 195 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: for the initial portions, maybe because they go down to 196 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: the field, but everybody's seemed has been upright so far. 197 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: So unfortunate injuries something to monitor. Also a little bit 198 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: of fun today it's a traditional day where just to 199 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: hold off on that for one point seconds. Continuing with 200 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: the uh the bookkeeping, Matthew Judahon was not spotted today 201 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: at practice. Fairly significant player obviously, UM not sure. I 202 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: didn't see him out of uniform anyway, either, did you. No? No, no, 203 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: So I don't know if there's anything physical going on 204 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: or if you know, maybe he had a personal matter 205 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: to attend to. But we didn't see him today, and 206 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: he was scheduled pre pre practice. He was one of 207 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: the players that we had listed that we were going 208 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: to get a chance to speak to. So yeah, no, 209 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: no on today. Something to watch. I mean, God bless him. 210 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 1: He's always out there in a sweatshirt, so I don't 211 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: know how he would have done today. Although, as we said, 212 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: not as hot, a little bit of wind, but it 213 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: was made a little bit easier. Thought it was great, 214 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: a little bit easier. Yeah, they loved that southern Southern heat. 215 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: Not quite the humidity today, but tradition every year they 216 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: early and early in the day you see the coaches 217 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: spraying down the top of the hill with water and 218 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: then they kind of have a loose ball drill. They 219 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: throw the ball down, Matthew Slayter manning the hose, dousing 220 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: all the rookies, the rookie coaches as well. So a 221 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: little bit of fun there at the start of practice. 222 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: And I heard Taekwon Thorte say, you know, it actually 223 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: was pretty nice. He got cooled up before practice, felt 224 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: it was one of his better practices. So he thinks 225 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: maybe he should do that all the time. I got 226 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: to go for a swim every practice, but planning to 227 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: get to uh we saw practice yesterday a little bit 228 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: of a dialed back version. No pads back into pads today. 229 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: But I love to hear from you guys, of course, 230 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: please write in with your questions web radio Patriots dot com. 231 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: Give us a buzz on the on the eight five 232 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: five pats five hundred. I can't seem to remember that number. 233 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: I'll get it eventually, but we've got some questions certainly 234 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: coming in now. And so I did think, you know, 235 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: the offense continues to be I think the main focus 236 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: of training camp so far. I mean, I think every 237 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: day one of us is coming away talking about the offense. Right. 238 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: I think there were some signs I did think there wasn't. 239 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: I think it was two sets of eight plays that 240 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: Mac Jones was involved with with the team. At the 241 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: end of the day, the running game is going nowhere 242 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: and there's almost no opportunities for any yardage on the ground. 243 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: The passing game, there's too many times where Mac, I think, 244 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: is forced to pull the ball down. Now when he 245 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: was able to throw the ball in rhythm, I felt 246 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: like he did a he had a decent job of 247 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: I think he hit Jono Smith on a little hook 248 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: that looked, you know, in rhythm. One of the later 249 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: plays that Mac was involved might have been his last play. Um, 250 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: a nice sort of drag out across the backland of 251 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: the end zone fire corner to Trey Nixon and you 252 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: know Matt threw his hands up in the air for 253 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: a touchdown. So it's not with Yeah, it's not without 254 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: any moments. I mean they have they've had, they've had 255 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: some periods. You know. I just want to sort of 256 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: like paint the entire picture and not just do the 257 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: sensationalistic view of all, we're not gonna be able to 258 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: move up. Last year, we couldn't force a punt. This year, 259 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: we're not gonna get a first down. You know, Like 260 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: it's not like that. It hasn't been that bad. Um, 261 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: it's just been really clunky, and I think for US 262 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: Patriots watchers that have been around for a long time 263 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: and just not used to seeing on the practice field 264 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: sort of spotty execution, it's been jarring to see and 265 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: you know you can't help but sort of try to 266 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: put two and two together and say, is it a 267 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: new system? Is it the new coordinators. Is there a 268 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: lack of communication? Uh? There certainly seems to be. There 269 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: was another play with John who Smith that certainly looked 270 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: like Mac and Smith weren't on the same page. Mac 271 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: through the ball of the outside. Joe Smith sort of 272 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: stopped and then Mac went up to him after the 273 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: play and was sort of gesturing, which told me that 274 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: it was probably on John. Um. So there's still some 275 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: of those kinds of periods. And like you said, Mike, 276 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: it's still too many runarounds and not finding anybody to 277 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: throw to it, isn't. I mean, there's just not a 278 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: lot of plays that look like Patriot plays, even the 279 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: ones that they complete. Sometimes they're exciting, maybe DeVante Parker 280 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: with some of those contested catches early on, which you 281 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: know hasn't only been there Bread and Butter. I think 282 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: they're just missing that kind of you know, bing bang boom, 283 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: it's out. You know though those kind of plays, it 284 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: just doesn't seem like there's enough of them. But you 285 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: mentioned Trey Nixon. I mean I thought of everybody. He 286 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: popped a little bit today for me, just in terms 287 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: of his quickness and kind of standing out with a 288 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: couple moves of shaking loose here and there. We're finally 289 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: going to have one. Yeah, there's a guy that you 290 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: and I really disagree on. Yeah, and it's okay. You 291 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: don't have to put that, you don't have to put 292 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: that look on your face. This is what the show 293 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: was all about, all right, conflict, let's do it. Um. Yeah, 294 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: I think he's fine. Like I think he's fine. I 295 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: think he's one of I think he's in a mold 296 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: of many receivers that are coming gone through here. I 297 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: think he is a lower half of the receiving depth 298 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: chart kind of option. I think he's a littlely consistent. 299 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: I think he had a drop today in a past 300 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: that was just a little behind him, but I thought 301 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: he should have caught it. He's made some plays here 302 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: and there. I think I think he's I think that 303 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people think of him in the mold 304 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: of the other guy, you know, like, oh, he's, you know, 305 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: sort of small. He's not that small, and he's a 306 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: little he's a little shiftier. But I think he's got 307 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: some straight line speed too, So I don't think he's 308 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: without skill. But I don't think I'm as high on 309 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: him as you are. And I don't I don't know 310 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: how high I am I think, I mean, what might 311 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: actually be the problem? I know what, I'm pretty high. 312 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: The problem might be just that there aren't a lot 313 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: of shifty guys on the offense. I mean, they've got 314 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: a lot of long, fast guys. And I don't know, 315 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: I think some of his some of his moments just 316 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: show me that he can kind of shake a guy 317 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: loose and get open quick and and as I said 318 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: at the top, I felt like that's not really what's 319 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: been happening. And you know, we'll see. I mean, he 320 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: certainly has has, you know, maybe ticked up his reps 321 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: with the top guys maybe five percent. I mean, just 322 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: a little bit here and there, just a little little bit. 323 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: Nothing to say, I'm gonna, you know, blow the hype 324 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: train on him, But I think it just speaks to 325 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: the overall dynamic of the receiver group now where it 326 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: seems like they got a lot of tall guys with 327 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: some long speed, but not really those shifty, quick, open guys. 328 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: And I will say this in terms of something I 329 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: mentioned a couple of weeks ago, toward the bottom of 330 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: the depth chart at that spot, at that position, you know, 331 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: look what they do right, and they went out in 332 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: the last you know, six six weeks. They they got 333 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: little Jordan Humphrey and Josh Hammond. Well, I would say 334 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: without question, during the week plus that we've seen of 335 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: training camp, Christian Wilkerson and more more so Trey Nixon 336 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: have been well ahead of those newcomers in terms of 337 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: reps production just overall all fint and what they're doing right. 338 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: Those other guys sort of get in there, you know, 339 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: as scraps, whereas Nixon, as you pointed out, has gotten 340 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: some learningful rests like that last one was that was 341 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: Mac Jones and the quote unquote Ones on that last 342 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: play for a touchdown. So I thought that maybe they 343 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: were looking to add some quality to the depth. Well 344 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: if if these guys were brought in to push guys 345 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: like Wilkerson and Nixon, I think Nick Nixon in particular 346 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: has responded to that challenge. He's clearly ahead of those guys. Yeah, 347 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: and I did see a ton out of Thornton today, 348 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: But I mean, I think overall, when you're talking about 349 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: trying to pull some positive elements from what you've seen 350 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: through the first week of camp, just as a rookie receiver. 351 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: We know the history. Certainly some of his highlights have 352 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: popped up, you know, various reports, see some videos here 353 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: and there. But you know, I think I think there's 354 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: some promise with Nixon, and I'm sorry with with Thornton. 355 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: It's something we've been talking about. The speed it's there. 356 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: It seems like he's making progress us. I think we're 357 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: all getting to the point now where let that kid 358 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: play get him in there. As much as he said, 359 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: oh he's going to be a ret shirt ear, it 360 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: seems like what he's doing out there, he just looks 361 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: a little comfortable, more comfortable to me every day, and 362 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: every day isn't splashy plays or you know, certainly he's 363 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: part of this offense that has been up and I 364 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: don't even want to call it up and down. It's sporadic, 365 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: I guess would be the word. But I think my 366 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: word is, yeah, clunky, clunky. It's true. And even the 367 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: plays that they make, it's it's it doesn't even leave 368 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: you feeling like, well, there it was. It's gotten to 369 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: the point where like a pretty routine play like the 370 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: one I described to John H. Smith, the play where 371 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: the snap happens backfoot timing bang on the cut, catches it, 372 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: turns and makes makes a play and you're like, oh, 373 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: that's a Patriots play. Yeah, me and Andy used to 374 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: call them Patriots plays. That's a Patriots. But that's the 375 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: way it looks, you know, when the pots, that's the 376 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: way it looks. Yeah. They've had him so infrequently in 377 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: eight days that I can sort of remember him, and 378 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: that was one of them. Yeah, And that's the hard 379 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: part with with Mac and you know, hoping that he 380 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: makes a jump this year, and he just he doesn't 381 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: seem to be seeing it right now. And I guess 382 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: my my concern is just you've only got a I mean, 383 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 1: as you said, a handful of practices left. I mean, 384 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: of course they're going to continue to work on things 385 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: after we're kicked out and no longer able to view it, 386 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: but you just I don't want to see they're wasting. Sure, 387 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: it looks bad, so he can surprise every right, everyone's 388 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: expected a terrible, terrible offense. But I mean, unfortunately, you 389 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: look at we're gonna get you know, I don't know 390 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen on Sunday, but we're gonna get two 391 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: next week, we'll get a couple of joint practices, and 392 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: I think certainly those will be telling against another defense 393 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: who you know, maybe isn't quite sure what they're gonna do, 394 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: isn't really expecting it. I mean, you know, but we 395 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: got into a conversation about about the preseason, and you know, 396 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: I said the question of is it possible that we 397 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: get into the preseason? Of course the preseason, but you 398 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: know that the offense looks okay, I definitely defense is 399 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, but I know that that I definitely think 400 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: that seen happen a lot. Yeah, I mean, I know 401 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: it's fools gold in preseason. There's no scheming. You're just 402 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: kind of playing. You're trying to get a look at guys. 403 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes you're not even playing the starters. So well, get yeah, 404 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: you get a matchup. You know, You're like, but at 405 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: this point, I'll take it, Paul, I'll take it just 406 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: because they haven't seen you're asking me what I'd rather 407 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: have them go out and score thirty points in the 408 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: first half of a preseason game. Will continue to do this. 409 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: I'll take the thirty points and a half, and I'll 410 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: temper everyone's enthusiasm while I'm doing it. But I'd rather 411 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: do that than say, my god, they can't even move 412 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: the ball when the third string guy from Sony's car 413 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: watches covering them exactly. And that's and that's where it's. 414 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: You get into seven on seven and you're like, all right, 415 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: it's not bad out there. Like about seven on seven, 416 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: they look competent, as in any NFL offense should look, 417 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: regardless of changing schemes or coaches or anything. You're in 418 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: seven on seven, you know you should be able to 419 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: complete passes and move the ball. But at this point, 420 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: that's what I'll take, even if it's fools gold of 421 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: a preseason performance against nobody's with back just to at 422 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: least show that they can execute. And I think that's 423 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: what's you know, you said clunky, it's just not executing. 424 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: And so one thing I'll say, like, you know, for 425 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: the most part, when you're practicing in training camp, you 426 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: know it's DeVante Parker, Nelson Agholod, Jakobe Myers, Kendrick Boorne 427 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: going against you know, Jalen Mills, and you know Terrence 428 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: Mitchell and Malcolm Butler and Jonathan Jones, and you know 429 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: with the you know, a good group of safeties on 430 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: the back end, And I'm not saying that it's Dion 431 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: Sanders against Jerry Rice, but you're starting caliber NFL player 432 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: against starting caliber NFL player, and right now, the defense 433 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: is winning most of those battles. If you get to 434 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: to preseason games and maybe you know the Terrence Mitchell's, 435 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler's and Jalen mills Is aren't playing for the 436 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, and you're facing you know, Brad Hawkins, who's 437 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: the guy they just signed right right in? Jalen Elliot? 438 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: Is that it does? I get those rights enough, not 439 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: Jalen Elliott. Oh this Jelen Elliot, you got it even 440 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: I forgot it. Disrespected me? I did? I did. That's socially, 441 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: how much I know who's that? Hey, Matt disrespected me 442 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: a little bit? It just a little bit. No, that 443 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: doesn't sound right. So like, if you're going again, let's 444 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: just say for and I have no idea what Caroline 445 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: is gonna do. I don't know what Matt rule plans 446 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: on doing in the in the preseason, let's just say 447 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 1: he's not going to play his front line cornerbacks and 448 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna play backups. You know, they had their first 449 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: round pick last year. The kid from South Carolina that 450 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: went down with the torn ACL I don't know if 451 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: he's going to play in the preseason, right, what's his name? Horn? Yes, 452 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: jac Horn? Yes, See he liked him. See we like 453 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: we liked him. So maybe maybe he doesn't get any time. 454 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: And you're playing against some guy that's not even gonna 455 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: be in the league in two weeks and you still 456 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: can't get any separation, Well, then it's then it's then 457 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: it's the fans will get to see what all the 458 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: reports coming out of training camp actually look like. And 459 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure that there are fans out there 460 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: who think that, you know, the media, that we're you know, 461 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: blowing getting all hyped up about this and you know, 462 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: but it's it's pretty consistent. And you know, we all 463 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: we usually are our own little pod. Other reporters are 464 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: kind of spread out. I mean, you're getting the same information. So, 465 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is what it's been here 466 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: through the first week and however many two days. So 467 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: let's go to the phone's real quick though. Eldred, North Carolina. Eldred, 468 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: You're on what's up, hey, felloks, how y'all doing today? 469 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: All right? So it's kind of like it's been frustrating. 470 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: It's been a frustrating few days of watching offensive football, 471 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna lie told. Yeah, definitely wonder but 472 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: I don't pick out a question. You say it's sporadic, now, okay, 473 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: don't you think that might be previews of coming to factions? 474 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: And she ain't got a real old sea. Yeah, I 475 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: don't know what. I wish I knew, I wish I 476 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: knew for sure what the problem is. Like, is it 477 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: because they don't have an offensive coordinator or a a play color? 478 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: Is it because Max's not seeing the field right? Is 479 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: it because the receivers aren't getting open? Is it because 480 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: the offensive line's not giving them any time? Which I 481 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: think has been a problem when they've been the three 482 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: days they've been in pads, I think the defensive line 483 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: has spent a lot of time in the backfield. Like, 484 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what the specific problem is, but when 485 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: it looks like this, most likely what the answer is 486 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: is bill answer from yesterday? Everything, Yeah, yeah, everything. Well, 487 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering because, uh, power, I finally got that. 488 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: Mean what you said a couple of weeks ago when 489 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 1: I called you said we canna be at the Carolina 490 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: statement by yourself. For some reason, I thought New England 491 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: was coming here. I remember you're saying you were going 492 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: to the practice and where You're like, are you coming? 493 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: Are you coming here? I wished I could, but I 494 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: was hoping he was coming here, and I was gonna 495 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: do that. But like I said, my concern is that. 496 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: And I saw this little thing on about Thordon from 497 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: Mac the Thorton a couple of times, and I liked that, 498 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: But that listening to y'all man, I'm just wondering. I'm 499 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 1: just got my hopes up and I'm just wondering. I mean, Aldred, 500 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna like Thorton. I mean, I hope 501 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 1: he gets action and gets to play, and you know, 502 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: they they were able to get him his feet wet. 503 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: But you know, I think there's really some promise there 504 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: based on what I've been, you know, pleasantly surprised with 505 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: his ability. And I thought today he you know, wasn't 506 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: anything special, but he made a catch in eleven on 507 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: eleven today. I don't chart this stuff. I don't I 508 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: don't like I apologize ahead of time. I don't chart 509 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: every single play of every single practice. I don't think 510 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: that's really worth the time it's spent to do that. 511 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: But that's the first time I can recall him making 512 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: a catching in competitive eleven on eleven and it's just progressing, right, Yeah, 513 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: I agree. Okay, one question this day, resign Harris, which 514 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: you think that means for the risk of the backfield 515 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: veteran move? Damien Harris, Oh, I know, I mean, I 516 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: gotta be honest, I'd be really surprised. I feel like 517 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: they just kind of see those guys as temp employees 518 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: and they roll them and you know, like they've got 519 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: a good depth. The move we saw up here strong 520 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: actually starts to get involved a little bit. Today. We've 521 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: seen Harris, Kevin Harris involved a bunch time. Montgomery Is 522 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 1: has been involved a bunch. Stevenson's been a little bit, 523 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: I think because I haven't seen him do much the 524 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: last couple of days of practice, but it's hard been 525 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: out there in full uniform, taking part in the drills 526 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: before practice, but I don't remember the last carry he got, 527 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: so I can. I mean, if they resigned Harris, it 528 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: would I mean, Damian Harrison would say to me that 529 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: maybe they're not as as high on these other guys 530 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: that they've gotten. But it's hard to say that already 531 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: because you haven't. You just sa up here strong today 532 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: for the first time. So based on the fact that 533 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: they drafted to what two running backs, uh, you know, 534 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: this year, my guess is that they'll they'll probably allow 535 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: Harris to you know, explore the market. Thanks Elder. Let's 536 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: let's go over to Matt in Ohio. Matt, you're on 537 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: what's going on? Hey, guys, how are you doing pretty 538 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: good other than having to watch good Uh? Paul, I 539 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: read your I read your article last week about Johnny Smith, 540 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: which is actually nice to nice to hear that he's 541 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: getting more involved in the offense. Um, but I haven't heard. 542 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't hearn anything about Hunter Henry. What 543 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: is he doing if he if he heard or no, 544 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: He's fine, he's been he's been out there every day. 545 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: He's fun. Yep, he's okay, Okay, he looks like Hunter Henry. Yeah, 546 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: he's he's been fine. Uh. You know, there's there's sort 547 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: of a you know, just some of the scuttle butt 548 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: in the in the media areas good one scuttle good 549 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: one that that doesn't throw me back to like nineteen 550 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: sixty two. I mean, you could probably get back to 551 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: the seventeen hundreds with the scuttle butt. UM. A lot 552 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: of people sort of think that it's been a little 553 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: bit better when the two tight ends have been on 554 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: the field together, when it's been Henry and Smith, and 555 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: I know that there was some questions asked today. I 556 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: haven't really seen that. I haven't really noticed any significant 557 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: spike in production when one lineup is in over another. 558 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: But it's not really my thing. I don't, I don't. 559 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't keep track of that a lot. But I 560 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: think Henry's been fine. He talked after practice today and 561 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: just talked about continue know that all the camp cliches, 562 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: stacking days, working to get better. You know, we have 563 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: a you know, you know it's a progression. Blah blah 564 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But yeah, nothing to worry about. I 565 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't say Matt with with Hunter Henry. I think I 566 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: think he's looked just like he did last year. Yeah, thanks, 567 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: Matt appreciated. Uh let's let's get one more before uh 568 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: we move on speed and Fresno. He spee, what's going on? 569 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: Hey guys, thanks again for like as usual, the excellent 570 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: coverage last week. It was really good. And also thanks 571 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: for not, you know, playing the role of chicken little 572 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: and the tempering. Your expressions are concern about the offense, 573 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: but the fact that they're not that far along in 574 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: the process. I mean, there's still more time. At the 575 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: same time, I have a sneaking concern, like we've been 576 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: talking about how bad the defense looked towards the end 577 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: of last year, and it's gotta be more or less 578 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: the same defense, maybe even younger, less experience. Um So 579 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: the fact that the offense is struggling against that defense, 580 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: isn't that even worse? Well, I mean I gotta give 581 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: credit to bar More, to Jude On even a little 582 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: bit to godshall believe it or not. I mean, I 583 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: think those guys have been winning their matchups, and I 584 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: think that's the that's the thing about this defense is 585 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: when guys are winning their one on one matchups that 586 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: you know, it's tough. And especially if the defense or 587 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: the offensive line is trying to learn a new blocking 588 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: scheme and you know, move more on the move and 589 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: you know so, and also how much does the defense 590 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: know what they're trying to do? So, I mean, I 591 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: I think your point is taken. But I've been kind 592 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,479 Speaker 1: of impressed with the defense. And it's hard to say 593 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: because the offense hasn't really done anything, and it's hard 594 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: to say, I really want to see the defense against 595 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: Carolina against the Giants and really see what they look like. Um, 596 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: because it's training camp and it's like all the disclaimers 597 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: we've been talking about. It's like as much you don't 598 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: want to kill the offense and you don't want to 599 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: like make the defense out to be the eighty five Bears, 600 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: But you know, that's that's just kind of how it's 601 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: looked in this particular start to training camp. I guess 602 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: is that your thought, Paul, that maybe, um, the defense 603 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: is looking decent relative to expectations compared to the end 604 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: the last year. Um, yeah, I don't. I don't really 605 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: have much feel for how the defense has looked. I haven't, 606 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: I think, and I think I may made this comment 607 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. I would say consistently the defensive front has 608 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: controlled the offensive front. Um, So that's that's looked better. 609 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: If if you want to say, like, well, they Patriots 610 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: having a hard time stop in the run, maybe the 611 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: run defense is improved. Maybe that's something that can can 612 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: carry over based on what we've seen. Um, but yeah, 613 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: I don't have much faith in the personnel now. I 614 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: need to see them play against Josh Allen and you 615 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: know Tah and Tyree Hill and I mean all the 616 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: challenges that are coming up. It's just it's hard to 617 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: get overly pumped when it's it's just kind of been 618 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: the new offense that that's just been so clunky. Yeah, 619 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: put it. Maybe Fred that's the game. I mean, he 620 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: made a play today and like eleven on eleven when 621 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: he blew up the guard. Um, I think, yeah, I 622 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: think he blew right by Cole Strange and he uh 623 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: he ended up making a tackle on a running play 624 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: which you really see tackles um in training camp. And 625 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: he he ended up dumping Damien Harris after a probably 626 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: for like a two yard loss. All right, all right, Gonch, 627 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: thanks a good one. Thanks all right, Well, let's welcome 628 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: in Alex. Alex now Patrian move Oh yeah, absolutely. She 629 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: walks in with a Chick fil a sandwich bag? Was 630 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: that the media meal? We're back to chick fil A? Yeah, 631 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: it's just Chick fil a sandwiches, no fries or anything, cookies, 632 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: I think, but I heard Stacy whisper to one of 633 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: the pr oh In turns, Hey the chick fil as here. 634 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: I was finishing up an interview with Christian right up. So, 635 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,959 Speaker 1: so what's going on for you today, Alex? You were? 636 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I seemed like there was a lot going 637 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: on down there on the field, Like too much going 638 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: out on the field. We had a fourteen year old 639 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: little kid asking Bill questions and like really really rolled 640 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: out the red carpet for this kid. I don't know 641 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: quite who he is. Tamara's on that story, but um, 642 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: I guess he got a nice tour of the stadium. 643 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: I guess mister Kraft was parading him around. He got 644 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 1: a helicopter ride. It seemed like the helicopter took off 645 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: right after No, I think he missed that that ride. 646 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: But um, he got to do stuff with Kendrick. I 647 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: think he was interviewing everyone today. We had a birthday. 648 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: I had to personally wait for an interview with David 649 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: Andrews that was scheduled ahead of time so this kid 650 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: could talk to him. Well, I mean, God, bless him. 651 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: You got you got he got the like inaugurable ceremonial 652 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: first question of the Belichick press conference. Everyone's like, oh, 653 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: this is this is great. Then he asked another question 654 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: like Okay, well we're running late here, buddy, we got 655 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: to keep You can tell Bill's face like he was 656 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: smiling for way too long. It's like might be his muscles, 657 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: they're they're they're out of shape for the amount of 658 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: time he had to hold it for. Uh. Kendrick Bourne 659 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: as well. Jack Bourne had a birthday. His wife brought 660 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: some balloons that all the kids just instantly let them 661 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: go the second they were holding them out of the field, 662 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: so and then they got sucked up by the helicopter. 663 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: Imagine tragedy today Kendrick Bourne's balloon's final destination. That would 664 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: be very but it was. It was quite funny to 665 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: just see the KB eighty four just floating away. I 666 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: hope someone got a picture of that. That's a video 667 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: that seems pretty good. Anything on the football field and 668 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: the practice today that that jumped out to you as 669 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: you were kind of watching things down there. Yeah, you 670 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: guys are kind of touching a little on I think 671 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: the d line has definitely pleasantly surprised me. God Chaw 672 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: included for sure, Barmore looks fantastic in terms of like 673 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: the secondary and stuff, though, I mean Jalen Mills I 674 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: think said it himself at the end of practice. At 675 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: this point, they kind of know what's getting thrown at them, 676 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: so it's easier for them to go out and light 677 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: it up. So I don't know, I'm just ready for 678 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: Caroline to come in and see how they actually look 679 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: against other people that aren't Patriots. Yeah. Yeah, me too. 680 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: I mean that was some of the most fun practices 681 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: last year with the Giants. I think that breaks up 682 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: the monotony a little bit. And Philly, it's just it's 683 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: it's a new challenge for you. I mean, we know 684 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: the Giants, well, they're not practicing its Giants, but I 685 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: mean a quarterback competition between you know, between Darnold and 686 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield that you know that they're going to be 687 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: coming out trying to execute and to give these guys 688 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: an opportunity to compete. So, I mean, I think it's 689 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: it's just a good thing for the defense to face 690 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: guys that, you know, quarterbacks who are coming in here 691 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: really trying to put the effort in and you know 692 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: we'll have those two practice is that next week, I 693 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: move we can get in a little bit later about 694 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: you know what we might be looking because it seems 695 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: like you're going to have a two day break potentially 696 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: with Saturday and Sunday off, Maybe maybe they think about 697 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: reevaluating some things. M I don't want to say, oh 698 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: the whole we got to blow up these changes we're doing, 699 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: but also just some some other players that have been, 700 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, having having good practices that maybe deserve a 701 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: little bit more of a shot. You know, anybody Paul 702 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: to you of those guys that you think you'd like 703 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: to see a little bit more of involved with those 704 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: top high end reps, Well, I mean Taekwon Thornton would 705 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: definitely be a guy that I want to see continuing 706 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: to work with frontline players U in the secondary. I 707 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of options there. I think you 708 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: talk about like Bledsoe, we talked about him early in camp. 709 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: You know, can he sort of you know, I think 710 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: as the veterans have come back, you know, he hasn't 711 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: gotten as many reps as you know he was prior 712 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: to that. Jonathan Jones has come back and sort of 713 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: sort of moved guys around a little. You haven't seen 714 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: as much Sean Wade as you had been with you know, 715 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: the slots. So you know, there's some of those young 716 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: guys that I'm I'm a little bit you know, curious about. 717 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,959 Speaker 1: But really, when when you start practicing against another team, 718 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,479 Speaker 1: I want to see the you know, the front line 719 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: guys going against front line guys for the other team. 720 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: So you make a great point about Darnold and Mayfield. 721 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: That should give the Patriots secondary a chance to see 722 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: two NFL guys. Now, you could say they both stink, 723 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: and you probably wouldn't be wrong, but there are two 724 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: NFL guys who have started several games. It's better to 725 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: go against those guys than some rookie sixth round pick 726 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: who's trying to learn how to play and he's just 727 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: trying to get the playoff, whereas Mayfield. You know, it's 728 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: kind of like when you when you played the Jets 729 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago and you ended up getting 730 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: stuck in that game, and when Joe Flacco just ends 731 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: up playing and he'll light you up because he's an 732 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: NFL player, he knows how to play. And you know, 733 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: if you if you if you you know you miss 734 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: your coverage or whatever he's gonna You know, Flacco had 735 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: some moments last year in Philly. You remember at practice, 736 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: want to go into the bathroom, you know, in front 737 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: of us, not well to the bathroom, that was situation, 738 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: situated us directly next to the port. That didn't come 739 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: out properly. Hey, Joe, let's going on. It's going quite 740 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: the time. You saw him after the AFC Championship game, 741 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: we talked about a Delaware's Delaware visit against Hey, congratulations, 742 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: my son's first every game, Joe Flacco. Let's uh, let's 743 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: jump over to the phones and uh say hello to 744 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: William from Philadelphia? What's up Williams? Will him and Phillim 745 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: Willham and Philam? Sorry, get your name right? What's going on? 746 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,959 Speaker 1: And ladies, that's how y'all doing good? Are you okay? 747 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm good. Just listening to Mike talk about how it's 748 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 1: squash street and just watching hat offense trying to put 749 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: it together whennot and that's my reason for Cam and 750 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: so what is um? At one point when do you 751 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: just say that ain't Brooke watching you? Might I just 752 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: go back to the old offense. Mac macus frustrated he's 753 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: having a hard time. I guess whatever, and or if 754 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: his receivers not being what they need to be at 755 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: or or just run and trying to run this couchan 756 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: in hand play and whatnot. So why not just go 757 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 1: back to the old just go ben to it old way. 758 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: I mean, well, I don't understand, you know what I mean? 759 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: Who then implements the old offense? Though? What if it's 760 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: a thing where like Josh McDaniels took all the keys 761 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: to the castle with him and no one really knows 762 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 1: what's going on. That's part of it, And what message 763 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 1: does this send to the team too, Like, hey, guys, 764 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: I know we all came into training, can't think of 765 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do. But it's not working, 766 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: so we're gonna I also wanted our position. I also 767 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: wonder how much of the struggles are because of the 768 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: system or just because you know, they're just not executing. 769 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's what Mac was saying, was like, 770 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's our job to execute and we're not executing. 771 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: So he was putting it it sounded like from his 772 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 1: press conference on them not executing it, Yeah, and less 773 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: one as he should. He put it on the coaches. Yeah, 774 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: we got a problem, right, So just two more questions 775 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: and that's so, so what so when is the next 776 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: practice for him? Tomorrow night? But it's going to be 777 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: in the stadium, and it seems like it's going to 778 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: be more about the game day operations, so like this 779 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: is what tunnel we come out, this is where we 780 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: stand there in the national anthem during halftime, we go here, 781 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: like all those kind of things. So it's it's not 782 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: even really a practice as much as it is like 783 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: kind of a dry run of a game day. I think, 784 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: I mean, there might be some you know, drills. I'm 785 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: sure they'll do a little bit of stuff, but um, 786 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: I think last year it was it was extremely uneventful. 787 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm not really expecting to learn anything 788 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: tomorrow night. And that's what you're kind of looking at 789 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: is like you're gonna have to sit on this practice 790 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: for the next three days before they get back out 791 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: there on Monday and see what changes they make. Right, okay, um, 792 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: and I had another one. I had two more, keep 793 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: them coming, but you can't just always have two more 794 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: at one point. You gotta be at the last one. 795 00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: Let's go okay um um, So when when would they 796 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: I guess after preseason done, you'll know what his jersey 797 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: number will be, because I just want to support him 798 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: and get his jersey. I think when the preseason games come, yeah, 799 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: that they yeah, they won't be on the preseason field 800 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: wearing number fifty one for a wide receiver. So next 801 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: week I would say they we'll start to see the 802 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: new numbers. Keep an eye out for Patriots Twitter. I'm 803 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: sure we'll have an announcement or some type of graphics, 804 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: absolute graphics, a hype video that one they left in 805 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: the budget. If you guys want me to take care 806 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: of that one. I'm a good hype man for this. 807 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 1: Flora's gonna be number good, good number talk, Thanks Willie, 808 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: appreciate it right now? Uh? That is that is good? 809 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: That we'll see, we'll see I mean I think you know. 810 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,439 Speaker 1: I mean, Paul, you have been you have to admit 811 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: you've been bumped by number fifty three returning punts. Uh right, No, 812 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: I think he I said he is it just the 813 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: number with Jones? What does he look like? Stouter like? 814 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: He's a small like Marcus Jones is a little square. 815 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: He's like a little tangle and he looks like a 816 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: rectangle and I think it's because he's wearing favorite right, 817 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's gonna spike like something in 818 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: the thirties and like, yeah, looks ten times better. Yeah, 819 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: a nice little player. So we as you probably heard 820 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: Tamara checked in now, Tamara looks like you saw Alex 821 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: had grabbed Chick fil A and then you were like, 822 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: I gotta go get that. You weren't quite did you 823 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: do that? Did you see that sandwich and go? That's 824 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: an even more veteran move. We're both walking. I was 825 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: co from ridiculously proud. She was coming from the field 826 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: and we were both walking to radio at the same time. 827 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: She saw my sandwich, and it's like my niece, my wing, 828 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: Like when you can get it free, you get it, 829 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: you go now, and like the feet writers will take 830 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: like two sandwiches a piece, and then by the time 831 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 1: we get up there, it's nothing guilty. That was me 832 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: and Paul wine a Chick fil at last week and 833 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: we both kind of have won't grab one, trying to 834 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: be responsible, was sitting eating it. You brought me a 835 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: second one. I saw Mike grab another, and I had 836 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: already finished my first one, so I was like, all 837 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: right on my sandwich for the walk home. I hate, 838 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: I hate to waste food. I can't. I can't love 839 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 1: that to handle so U but to marry I grilled, 840 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: Alex didn't really griller. But what did you see today? 841 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: What were you up to? Well, you know, we talked 842 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: a little bit about our our junior reporter who was 843 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 1: here getting getting the red carpet rolled out for him. 844 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: Was that your primary primary? Yeah? Yeah, I felt like 845 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: my assignment today was our junior reporter, not our NBC's 846 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: junior reporter. Um. Just following him around, and it was 847 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: kind of like looking at younger me, but obviously way 848 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: younger me, because he's like thirteen or fourteen, um, and 849 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: just you know, picking his brain you've been seeing you 850 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: know what he saw I practice? So that was pretty interesting. 851 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: And then also do you think the offense was good today? Umballs? Yeah, softballs, softballs. 852 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: But I was honestly impressed by him leading off in 853 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: Bill Balichick's press conference today. I mean I find it, 854 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: I mean who I find it? Intimidate and ask that 855 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: guy question exactly and to get a smile, Yeah, a 856 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: few smiles. It was great. What anything stick out to 857 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: you today on the field? Catch your eye guys plays, 858 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: what what do you think impression coming off here? I'm 859 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: just I don't I don't know how to Like I 860 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: feel like when we were when I heard you talking 861 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: as I walked in, and you were like, you know, 862 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: we have to be patient with the offense, and I'm 863 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: installing it. I'm thinking about when you take a puzzle 864 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: out of a box, especially like a big puzzle, like 865 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,439 Speaker 1: three hundred piece puzzle, and it's like you obviously see 866 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: what the end goal is going to be or should be, 867 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: but the process of getting all those pieces put together 868 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: it takes time. I think that's a great analogy, and 869 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: that's like, I guess where my hope is residing is 870 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: that maybe they're putting together this little section and this 871 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: little section and this little section, and that it's something 872 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: right and then at some point it's all going to 873 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: kind of come together and make sense. Yeah, where it's 874 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: like you know, you might have you might do a section. 875 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: Then you know, maybe your sibling might come and do 876 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: a section. Joe Judge comes over as a secon map, 877 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: patricis just doing a section. Yeah, oh god, or or 878 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: or as Bill Belichick said, I think it was yesterday, 879 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, we're installing this piece of the offense today, 880 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: than this piece of the offense tomorrow, this piece the 881 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,919 Speaker 1: next day, and then in the preseason game we'll see 882 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: what works and what doesn't, or what needs to be 883 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: tweaked and what doesn't. So I guess just the growing 884 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: and the putting, the installation processes, it's not that great. 885 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: Let's jump over. We got a bunch of emails, people 886 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: writing in. Of course, I hope we're not making anyone, 887 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, jump off the bridge about this situation, because 888 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: I mean we are just a week and a day 889 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: in so far, very early. No jumping off bridges. People 890 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: love you, Yeah, Joey. Joey writes, and he just said, 891 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 1: for the past week, I've been hearing. How all I've 892 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: been hearing is how bad the offense is. Do you 893 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: guys feel they're trying too hard to find their identity 894 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: and the coaches are forcing the Patriots to do something 895 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 1: that's not the Patriot way. I think the problem is 896 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: that you have a great head coach with a defensive mind, 897 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,320 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia with a defensive mind, and Joe Judge with 898 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: really no experiences QB coach offensive coach. It's like the 899 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 1: blind leading the blind. In my opinion, why not get 900 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: an OC outside of Foxborough if any they want to 901 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: jump on that one. I don't think that's I mean, 902 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: I've been very critical of the plan, Like, I don't 903 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: think the plan makes a lot of sense. I just 904 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: don't think that based on what I've watched, the plan 905 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: is the problem right now. I think it could be. 906 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: But when you're scripting plays and you know you're I mean, 907 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 1: you go into every practice knowing what you're gonna do, 908 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 1: Like it's not a secret as to what they're gonna do. 909 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 1: And I do think that Tamari's point that I think 910 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: Jalen Mills said about, you know, like the defense is 911 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 1: kind of squatting on some routes at this point too. 912 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: They kind of know what's coming to when it's it's hard. 913 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: It's human nature. You're supposed to play it straight, but 914 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: you know what's coming at some point too. So I 915 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: think that's part of the trouble getting open. But when 916 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: you go into a practice knowing what you're gonna do, 917 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: it's not a bad plan. It's not like, oh, we 918 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: shouldn't have done that at practice today, We should have 919 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: done this at practice day. You go into a game 920 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: and you have a bad game plan. That's on you know, 921 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: that's on the coaching, But in practice, you're trying to 922 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 1: run your base plays. They're having a hard time running 923 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 1: plays right now. I don't think it's because of a 924 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 1: new system, And I don't think it's because you know, 925 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: Joe Judge and Mapatrish, you know, gifted offensive minds. Yeah, 926 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: and the stuff with like at the line of scrimmage, 927 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: that's that's very simple stuff. And the old line is 928 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: seems like they're really having a hard time and that's 929 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: just one on one. Yeah, yeah, just losing losing the 930 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: physical the blue shirted lineman to beating the white shirted linement. 931 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: I think this is like a prime example of when 932 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,879 Speaker 1: you know, you hear Bill Belichick and the players say 933 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: we're focusing on the fundamentals, It's like, yeah, they have 934 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: to get these fundamentals together in order for these plays 935 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: to be able to be executed correctly. And I think 936 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: like that's the major issue right now, is the musical 937 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: chairs and the trenches. Yeah, it's it's a struggle right now. 938 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: It is. Well, let's let's flop over to the defensive 939 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 1: side of the ball. Matt and Devin right, Devin uk, 940 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: I should say rights in uh, asking about the safeties, 941 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 1: do you think they'll be game game plan dependent? I mean, 942 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: of course they always are, but as in, if they're 943 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: playing a run team like Tennessee, it might be more 944 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: Dugger and full Phillips. If more past heavy like Kansas City, 945 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: maybe sorry, I said Dugger and Peppers. If more past 946 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 1: heavy like Kansas City, more mccordy and Phillips. I wonder 947 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: if they're trying to offset the lack of defensive talent 948 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 1: by being more game plan oriented. I don't really think 949 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 1: they can get more game plan oriented, but I kind 950 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 1: of like how you're thinking. And it was something I 951 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,720 Speaker 1: wrote about a couple days ago and asked Bill Belichick 952 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: about you know, Patrick Chung was here at practice early on, 953 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: and you know, back in the day you had one 954 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: kind of in the box safety like that, and now 955 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: you've got kind of four, I mean four of these 956 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 1: guys if you want to include bledsoe of guys, and 957 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: even Bill said, we'll try to figure out a way 958 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 1: to get them all. I mean, I kind of I 959 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: kind of like you know what Matt is saying here 960 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,800 Speaker 1: of maybe that could be a potential way of you know, 961 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: some weeks it's a little bit more of this guy game, 962 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: and I think we've seen that kind of across the 963 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 1: board with you know, other certain game plan elements of 964 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 1: the team. So I don't know we'll see I mean, 965 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: I haven't really seen the safeties pop as much. You know, 966 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: Peppers has been out there, wasn't out there yesterday. I 967 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: got back out there today. They haven't really been super involved, 968 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,359 Speaker 1: and it's it's I wouldn't say I've seen like seeing 969 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 1: Dugger get picked on a little bit, but otherwise I 970 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,879 Speaker 1: don't know that it's hard to tell with those guys. 971 00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: I think the defensive front has been the one that 972 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: have kind of carried things. Any of the safeties that 973 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: have stood out to you guys with like Bledsoe or 974 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,760 Speaker 1: so those first few days. Even Sean Wade was decent 975 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: when he was getting reps, but now that he's not, 976 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't I wasn't able to really 977 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: watch too much of today though with everything going on 978 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: off the field. Yeah, it was busy. Dexter and Stana 979 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,800 Speaker 1: Rosa writing in and let's let's all get on the 980 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: Christian Barmore hype train because I think we need some 981 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: some more positive energy here. My never running positive outlook 982 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: on the Patriots has me drooling over Christian Barmore. It 983 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: got me thinking if he ends up being in the 984 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: running for defensive MVP, it will not only be the 985 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: great thing for the Patriots, it will also be an 986 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: incredible gift for radio as a whole. His interviews are 987 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: so endearing and funny in a great way. I love 988 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: how fast he talks, how he loved how it seems 989 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: to be just a young rock kid who realized he 990 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 1: can dominate the game. It's refreshing, and I cannot get 991 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: enough of Barmore rooting for an MVP type season for 992 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: the kid. Thank you all. I second that the press 993 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 1: conference yesterday. I literally went to Mike's desk and I 994 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 1: was like, did you hear what he said when he asked, like, 995 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 1: you know, how does it feel picking on your teammates, 996 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, when you're doing one on once? And he 997 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: was like, well, he laughed first, and then he said 998 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 1: everyone's feeling pain. And I was like, that was a 999 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: nice way to put it. Like he's not trying to 1000 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: make it like his teammates feel his wrath or pain, 1001 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: but you know what they're all feeling it. I just 1002 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: got to chat with him and his mom. I interviewed 1003 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: him for the twenty Questions today and I was cracking up. 1004 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: Every day when I do those, I'm like, oh, this 1005 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: one's my favorite one. This one's my favorite one. But 1006 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: I thought Nelson Aguilar yesterday was gonna be hard to beat. 1007 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 1: But Barmore today and his mother, like interjecting after all 1008 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 1: of his answers was just hilarious, like I feel like 1009 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: a comedy troupe, was like, and I'm just envisioning my 1010 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: mother doing that to me. But I asked him, I 1011 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 1: haven't written this yet, but sneak preview for our listeners. 1012 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 1: I asked him, what's something that people are like really 1013 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,839 Speaker 1: surprised to learn about you? And he was talking about 1014 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: his dance moves and how well he can dance, and 1015 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: his mom is in the background cracking up like this child, like, 1016 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: oh my god. She I asked him about like Philly 1017 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,320 Speaker 1: cheese steaks because he's a Philly guy, and she answers 1018 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 1: for him, like you better not say this place, you 1019 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 1: better say that. She was coming up to me after. 1020 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,320 Speaker 1: Don't let anyone tell you anything different. This is the 1021 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: place you're going or what I was like, I love 1022 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: you too. You need a show. Wait we needed that 1023 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: super commercials those Oh right, that's I mean, if he 1024 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 1: gets a defensive MVP, maybe I'll be well in the running. 1025 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 1: I need you, I need you to love phill Us 1026 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: in on what that place is because we could have 1027 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 1: used that last year when we were in Philly, Hilly. 1028 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 1: I know we kind of had a bad was that 1029 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: we had an average average, We kind of were, we 1030 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: were weaving and through all the Philadelphia we saw a spot. 1031 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 1: I think we just like it was okay, but I 1032 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 1: think Christian Barma Boogie Cheese Steaks. We didn't know it 1033 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 1: was bougie and it was so big. We need authentic, 1034 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 1: we need we need next time. It was big, it 1035 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 1: was very filling. It will say that I was. I 1036 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,839 Speaker 1: didn't I couldn't finish it. That's a god my story 1037 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 1: this evening to see what else and Barma recommends. I think, um, 1038 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: when I was listening to you guys, maybe like four 1039 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: days ago, someone said like, what's your way too early? 1040 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,320 Speaker 1: Like Pro Bowl pick? Yeah? I think he be it. 1041 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: I think so, I mean, and it's just every every day. 1042 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought today wasn't. He wasn't quite as 1043 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 1: crazy dominant some of the I was wondering if maybe 1044 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 1: some of the offensive lineman hurd him. Yes, I thought 1045 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,800 Speaker 1: I thought he was neutral. I thought it when you 1046 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 1: m stone walled him a couple of times, and I 1047 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 1: thought James Vern's had a good rep against him, kind 1048 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 1: of pushed him wide. Yeah, around the back of the quarterback, 1049 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: which is the last place you want to be. But 1050 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,360 Speaker 1: that's the other thing too with him is um Sometimes, 1051 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 1: especially the interior guys and those one on one drills, 1052 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 1: that's not always great. Um. You know, for tough interior guys, 1053 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 1: the one on one it's it's not quite the same. 1054 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes those guys just want to collapse the pocket. You know, 1055 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: they're not necessarily looking to beat you know, beaten with 1056 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 1: a quick you know, swim mover. And but what I mean, 1057 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 1: I will say he's been he's just he's he's a 1058 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: ball of energy and he's almost always a handful for 1059 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: everybody who's got to block him. And as as the 1060 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: email laid out, I mean, it's just a lot of 1061 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 1: fun to listen to. Uh, let's jump, We're gonna go 1062 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,800 Speaker 1: back to back. North Carolina calls let's let's start a 1063 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,839 Speaker 1: break here guy. Oh you know, let's let's spang. He's 1064 00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,800 Speaker 1: two out? All right, all right, I know your your pizzas, 1065 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: look at you right in the face, but let's go 1066 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,839 Speaker 1: to talk. I'm the one who has pizza. Pizza. Hey, Todd, 1067 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: what's going on? Just driving getting a little frustrated with 1068 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: traffic and you know senior moments. So so did you 1069 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,399 Speaker 1: say senior moments? How old are you? Todd? Yeah, well, 1070 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm a senior in high school. After watching the practice 1071 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,800 Speaker 1: so far, is there anybody that you think might be 1072 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: a surprise cut? I know that early on, before we 1073 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 1: really got into this, we actually kind of said that, 1074 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 1: you know, maybe Myers, because there's a lot of depth 1075 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: in the in the receiving corps and stuff like that. 1076 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 1: But who would be your surprise cut right now? After 1077 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 1: watching a bit of it? Maybe when or when you 1078 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,239 Speaker 1: or her on, like, who do you think could be 1079 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,879 Speaker 1: a surprise cut going into the season? I would say 1080 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 1: it's tough to tell. I mean you don't really see 1081 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 1: like a guy that you're really hyped about that hasn't 1082 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 1: begun a ton of action. But I think you mentioned 1083 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,399 Speaker 1: on when you I think it's just you know, based 1084 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: on what they're doing and if they continue to try 1085 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: to run this team where you need athletic offensive linemen. 1086 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to see him getting cut. He 1087 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 1: ain't getting cut, but you know, I could see him 1088 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 1: getting pushed by by Hambone a little bit. I mean 1089 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: he could, um, but I don't see him getting cut. 1090 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 1: It's hard like that. The whole surprise cut thing is 1091 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 1: so hard. Jacoby Myers is not getting cut. I mean, 1092 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 1: if he's not part of the team this year, he's 1093 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 1: gonna get traded. They're not just gonna cut a guy 1094 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 1: um with that ability. Um, like a surprise cut. I 1095 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 1: mean maybe Cameron mcron Not that that's a surprise really, 1096 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 1: but it's everybody's been kind of hyping him up, and 1097 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 1: I says, the guy who's not guys those guys don't 1098 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,800 Speaker 1: make any money either, So like, what's the point. I 1099 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,680 Speaker 1: don't know. It's it's hard to really pinpoint one. I'm 1100 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 1: gonna go with Jonathan Jones, but I don't think he's 1101 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 1: getting cut either. I'm just saying, you know, it's a 1102 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 1: guy they have, they have well, they have a little 1103 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 1: they have a little depth, like sort of those smallish 1104 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 1: corners slash safety's like Miles Bryant, you know, Miles Bryant, Like, 1105 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, do they think anything of Josh Bledsoe, 1106 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 1: Sean Wade Like these guys, they're gonna have these other 1107 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 1: Marcus Jones in the mix too, kind of similar like 1108 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,760 Speaker 1: Jack Jones too. You know, if you have these smaller 1109 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 1: corners that can play inside and maybe play some safety, 1110 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: maybe you don't need a guy that's making the money 1111 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 1: that Jonathan Jones. I don't think he's gonna get cut. 1112 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 1: That's why it would be a surprise. Thanks appreciated. H 1113 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 1: Let's go to Sam. Sam. We're getting angry here, so 1114 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 1: so make it a good one. I certainly am. You 1115 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,800 Speaker 1: see you guys there. Yeah, okay, Um, first off, I 1116 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: want to say I agree with alec one. Christian Balbmore 1117 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 1: is doing a hurly Pro Bowl to legs. Oh wait, 1118 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 1: that was I said that? Oh Tamara, I'm sorry I 1119 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 1: started to show late because I'm at work. It's okay, 1120 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 1: I just heard a big I'm sorry, but anyway, Um, 1121 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,359 Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask the offense is struggling, it's 1122 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,800 Speaker 1: so bad in the preseason. Could he see that the 1123 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 1: defense is better than we throw or or are they 1124 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 1: just bad? I mean, I'll jump on this one and 1125 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,840 Speaker 1: thanks Sam, appreciate it. Uh. 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For us, no uphill battle is ever 1286 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 1: too high to climb in. Our favorite ring is the 1287 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:30,160 Speaker 1: next one. Our job isn't done until the final down 1288 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 1: is played and everyone knows we gave it our all. 1289 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 1: We the fans, march forward with the power to do 1290 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:42,320 Speaker 1: what it takes, just like we've done time and time again. 1291 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 1: We are the home field advantage. Bank of America is 1292 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,560 Speaker 1: proud to be the official bank of the New England 1293 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,680 Speaker 1: Patriots and stand with them as they defy the odds. 1294 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:06,080 Speaker 1: Copyright twenty twenty, Bank of America Corporation, and now Great 1295 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 1: Moments in History. Sam's in San fran Cisco. Um, they 1296 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 1: don't like it when they say Sam, Yeah, really San Frisco. 1297 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 1: I thought they didn't like Oh, you're right, Frisco. They 1298 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 1: don't like. They don't like that, they don't like Frisco. 1299 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 1: And people in Oregon don't like when you say Oregon, no, Frisco, Frisco. 1300 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 1: What is what Francisco Frisco. Between this and you're analyzing bills, 1301 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 1: the bills thing is the tamest thing he's got going 1302 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 1: right now. I won't forget you, Yeah, I told it, well, 1303 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,520 Speaker 1: I guess I should tell I went so back. This 1304 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 1: a little side story, but back when Brady got hurt 1305 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, I made a video and 1306 01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 1: I should probably share it with Matt. It is on YouTube. 1307 01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,959 Speaker 1: I made a music video of sets to the tune 1308 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 1: of poisons. I won't Forget You, Baby, But I made 1309 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 1: an I won't Forget You Brady music video that was 1310 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 1: very Yeah, you still hired them, but I was saying, 1311 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, if and when didn't come up on the search. 1312 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:17,640 Speaker 1: That's another great moment from don't ask me to sing, 1313 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 1: don't ask me to sing, I'll do it. I'll do 1314 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 1: it too. Yeah, you can still find that video on YouTube. 1315 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 1: If I Won't Forget You Brady, it's a if you're 1316 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,200 Speaker 1: a poison fan, I feel like eighties eighties hair metal, 1317 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:31,680 Speaker 1: specifically the ballots there isn't. I have a karaoke mike 1318 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 1: that's hot pink, and I've been tempted to bring it 1319 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 1: in because I'd be fun for content with the players, 1320 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,320 Speaker 1: but I think that you need to break it out first. Well, 1321 01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 1: did Angelie tell you that me and her we got 1322 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 1: up and we did a little Miley cyrus at the 1323 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 1: Christmas party prior to her departure. I was a duet. 1324 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 1: It was pretty bad. I don't I don't think I 1325 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:51,520 Speaker 1: can reach those those upper notes. But we're back after lunch. 1326 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,960 Speaker 1: It was delicious and trying to make sense to the offense. 1327 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 1: We got Paul's here, Alex's here, Tamaris here. We're waiting 1328 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 1: on Evan, who was finishing up a peace and he'll 1329 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,760 Speaker 1: be down to share his observations. Today. We were up 1330 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 1: on the side of the building to get a little 1331 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 1: bit higher view of things, and unfortunately it's still kind 1332 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 1: of looked the same even from that height. But we've 1333 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,400 Speaker 1: been going through that. Let's let's jump into some questions 1334 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,680 Speaker 1: though plenty here and encourage you guys. Please give us 1335 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,600 Speaker 1: a call eight five to five pats five hundred. I'd 1336 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,600 Speaker 1: love to hear from you guys. But Austin writes in 1337 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 1: from North Carolina with a viewing of several practice, where 1338 01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 1: would yall expect for this team to end up in 1339 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,800 Speaker 1: the grand scheme of thing? Not a prediction of the 1340 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,400 Speaker 1: win loss column, but are we looking about and an average, 1341 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 1: middling or below average team? Thanks for the coverage. Anybody 1342 01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,200 Speaker 1: want to jump on that one? I mean, you don't 1343 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 1: want to jump to conclusions right now, but I mean, well, 1344 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,480 Speaker 1: it's hard to be excited about what you've seen on offense. 1345 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 1: It just hasn't been anything there yet. And maybe you 1346 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,240 Speaker 1: can talk to yourself into the defense being better right now, 1347 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,920 Speaker 1: but I'd say we I'm not feeling great right now. 1348 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure things can change around and things can you 1349 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,240 Speaker 1: improve the next few weeks and we'll be hey, they're 1350 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,560 Speaker 1: really starting to put it together. But I can't lie 1351 01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,320 Speaker 1: right now. It's just it's you go out there every 1352 01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,320 Speaker 1: day expecting to see something new, something getting strung together, 1353 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,760 Speaker 1: a few plays like bang bang bang, they go down 1354 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 1: the field and it's just there hasn't been any of that. 1355 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,320 Speaker 1: They've made some plays here and there, but nothing together, 1356 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:12,000 Speaker 1: nothing consistent. Yeah, average, I would say, but you're right, Mike, 1357 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 1: it's not based on practice as much as for me 1358 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,800 Speaker 1: on the roster, I think the personnel they have some 1359 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 1: they have some quality players, but I don't know if 1360 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 1: they have enough of the frontline guys, the standouts, the 1361 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:29,000 Speaker 1: difference makers to be anything above that. You know, and 1362 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 1: the one guy that's the wild card and all that 1363 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 1: is your quarterback. Because if you have above average quarterback play, 1364 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,840 Speaker 1: that can lift a lot of other guys up along 1365 01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 1: with it. So if he makes an enormous leap in 1366 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,960 Speaker 1: year two, then that gives you potential to be better 1367 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,800 Speaker 1: than average. Well, I think, Paul, that feeds into something 1368 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,440 Speaker 1: we've kind of talked about a little bit, and that 1369 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,480 Speaker 1: is over the last few years, going back to you know, 1370 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,880 Speaker 1: Cam Newton ight even go back to the twenty nineteen offense, 1371 01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:59,560 Speaker 1: that Josh McDaniels had an ability to draw things up 1372 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 1: to scheme up big plays, scoring like you know, significant 1373 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 1: plays when they were most desperately needed. Um, you know, 1374 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers has thrown a few touchdowns doing just that. 1375 01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 1: I think that's a That's a big question that I 1376 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 1: have is that, you know, if the offense continues to 1377 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:21,120 Speaker 1: be sporadic like it is, are they gonna be able 1378 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:25,160 Speaker 1: to have the if the foresight to draw those kind 1379 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,080 Speaker 1: of plays up and to get those you know, to 1380 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 1: catch teams sleeping and know the right. We've certainly seen 1381 01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,200 Speaker 1: some trip plays. We can't share them where you're here, 1382 01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,680 Speaker 1: but they have been in UM. But you know, it's 1383 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,200 Speaker 1: also timing. We should haved that. We had two of 1384 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,960 Speaker 1: them and they were both unsuccessful. Right there you go. 1385 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:41,400 Speaker 1: That's as detail as we can get and all you 1386 01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,080 Speaker 1: need to know. But you know, it's like if they 1387 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 1: can't even rely on those things this year, that relays 1388 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,280 Speaker 1: the question of like, well then we might really you know, 1389 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:54,280 Speaker 1: be in trouble. Uh. Well, Michael brings up the Dolphins tampering. 1390 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:55,640 Speaker 1: Can we can we chat a little bit about that 1391 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 1: if you feel pretty good? He's a long time listener 1392 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,920 Speaker 1: UM and he calls Patriots on Filter one of his 1393 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,320 Speaker 1: can't miss favorites. Uh. Paul is usually my favorite. He 1394 01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,720 Speaker 1: is generally fair and objective and not afraid to criticize 1395 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots one appropriate. Paul said that when appropriate, he said, 1396 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,560 Speaker 1: he's uh that said. I was very disappointed with Paul's 1397 01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 1: reaction to a caller on Tuesday, just after the late 1398 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,800 Speaker 1: afternoon break a caller brought up the Dolphins tampering and 1399 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,280 Speaker 1: suggested compensation for the Patriots. Paul quickly shot down the 1400 01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,960 Speaker 1: idea without offering any explanation or letting the caller explain 1401 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:26,360 Speaker 1: his line of thought. I think in the future it 1402 01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,280 Speaker 1: might be better if Paul said he disagreed and asked 1403 01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,559 Speaker 1: the caller to justify their position. Well, Paul, you've been 1404 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,040 Speaker 1: talking about it. I mean, why don't you. I mean, 1405 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,840 Speaker 1: you can explain expand your you know, your reasoning of 1406 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,160 Speaker 1: of what where is there a precedent for a team 1407 01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,760 Speaker 1: like the Patriots to receive compensation in the all And 1408 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,360 Speaker 1: they're like, tampering has gone on in sports forever, and 1409 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,800 Speaker 1: there have been periodic times where teams have been gotten 1410 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 1: in trouble for it and been fined and disciplined for it. 1411 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 1: And I think there was one um goes back a 1412 01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,720 Speaker 1: few years now, but Kansas City in Philadelphia. I think 1413 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 1: we're involved in one in Kansas and he got in trouble. 1414 01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,679 Speaker 1: I think I might might have that Backwich. But Jeremy 1415 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,200 Speaker 1: Macklin was a receiver who was involved in it. And 1416 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:12,639 Speaker 1: the team that gets in trouble for doing the tampering 1417 01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,560 Speaker 1: gets sanctioned, and I think Kansas City lost like a 1418 01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:18,400 Speaker 1: third and a sixth round pick or something like that, 1419 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,479 Speaker 1: or a fourth and sixth round pick, and they get 1420 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 1: fined and all that. Nothing happens to the player, and 1421 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:30,800 Speaker 1: nothing happens to the team that the player was on. It. 1422 01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,840 Speaker 1: It's generally you're telling me it would be unprecedented, like 1423 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 1: for a player, let me let me jump in, just 1424 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,559 Speaker 1: because he offers a couple of examples, Okay that he says. 1425 01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,280 Speaker 1: In two thousand and seven, the San Francisco forty nine 1426 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,920 Speaker 1: Ers made inappropriate contact with Drew Rosenhouse, the agent for 1427 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,479 Speaker 1: Bears landbacker Lance Briggs. In two thousand and eight, they 1428 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,080 Speaker 1: were penalized by Roger Goodell. Forty nine Ers lost the 1429 01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight fifth round pick. In addition, the 1430 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,680 Speaker 1: Bears and forty nine ers swap third round picks. The 1431 01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,639 Speaker 1: Bears benefited by moving up five spots in the third round. 1432 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,360 Speaker 1: Then his second ex ample is in twenty and ten, 1433 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 1: the Lions defensive coordinator informer Kansas City Chiefs coach Gunther 1434 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,080 Speaker 1: Cunningham made general comments about the future Chiefs free agents 1435 01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,880 Speaker 1: being welcome in Detroit. Roger Goodell initially penalized the Lions 1436 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:13,640 Speaker 1: in the twenty eleven draft with the loss of a 1437 01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,000 Speaker 1: seventh round pick plus the swap of fifth round picks 1438 01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,639 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. The seventh round pick was later rescinded 1439 01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,559 Speaker 1: upon appeal by the Lions. The Chiefs ended up benefiting 1440 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,240 Speaker 1: from the Tampa ring by moving up fourteen spots in 1441 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,320 Speaker 1: the fifth round. Okay, So if that's what you want 1442 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,559 Speaker 1: to do, that's fun. Like to me, that's nothing. If 1443 01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:33,760 Speaker 1: like the lock, the Dolphins lost first and third round picks, 1444 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,080 Speaker 1: and the suggestion that was made on Tuesday was the 1445 01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,920 Speaker 1: Patriot should get those. That's not the same as moving 1446 01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,880 Speaker 1: up fourteen spots in the seventh round or the fifth round, 1447 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,240 Speaker 1: or whatever the round happens to be. I don't really 1448 01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:50,679 Speaker 1: I'll take that research at face value. I don't recall 1449 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,639 Speaker 1: that part of it, but I'll take that face value. 1450 01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,600 Speaker 1: I don't really think that that's getting anything. So what 1451 01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,320 Speaker 1: does Tampa Bay get? Because what happened to Tampa Bay 1452 01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,320 Speaker 1: was far worse than what happened to the Patriots. The 1453 01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,599 Speaker 1: Patriots didn't have any interest in retaining Tom Brady. Tom 1454 01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 1: Brady didn't have any interest in staying in New England, 1455 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 1: and he was contacted by Miami, which is wrong. It's tampering. 1456 01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,280 Speaker 1: He was on the Patriots, so that's why Miami got 1457 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:19,960 Speaker 1: in trouble. Tampa Bay wants to keep Tom Brady, and 1458 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 1: Tom Brady doesn't want to stay there and obviously was 1459 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,000 Speaker 1: looking to get rid of Bruce Arians and he's talking 1460 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,600 Speaker 1: to Miami. So what does Tampa Bay get. That's the thing. 1461 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,559 Speaker 1: It's hard to justify giving the Patriots any compensation when 1462 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 1: he didn't even choose to go straight to Miami from here. 1463 01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:36,880 Speaker 1: He went to the box so and he was a 1464 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,760 Speaker 1: free agent anyway, so it's like, what do you do? 1465 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:41,960 Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not blowing it. I'm not like 1466 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,519 Speaker 1: brushing it under the rug. He was the Patriots quarterback 1467 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:48,280 Speaker 1: in August of twenty nineteen. When the report said that 1468 01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,120 Speaker 1: Miami first made contact with Brady. That's against the rules. 1469 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,320 Speaker 1: Miami should be punished for that, and I think they 1470 01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,479 Speaker 1: were harshly party. I think a first third and like 1471 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:01,240 Speaker 1: one whatever million plus the other guy that got in trouble. 1472 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't care about, you know, a suspension for the 1473 01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,479 Speaker 1: owner who cares yea um, but I think that's a 1474 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,599 Speaker 1: pretty significant punishment. Losing a first in the third round pick. 1475 01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,519 Speaker 1: But I just don't, you know, like when the coaches 1476 01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,720 Speaker 1: changed and it was tampering with coaches, Like when when 1477 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:20,480 Speaker 1: Parcels went to the Jets, the Jets were obviously contacting, 1478 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,840 Speaker 1: the Jets got in you know that it was ruled 1479 01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,800 Speaker 1: because the Parcels was the Patriots coach. They had to 1480 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,639 Speaker 1: work out compensation. Same thing when the Patriots were contacting 1481 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,560 Speaker 1: Belichick when he was with the Jets, we had to 1482 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,200 Speaker 1: give them compensation. It was a trade, John Gruden going 1483 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,240 Speaker 1: from the Raiders to Tampa Bay. Like those are trades 1484 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,080 Speaker 1: and that and that's the compensation. But it's not like 1485 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,880 Speaker 1: it's not the same thing as the team losing a 1486 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:47,920 Speaker 1: draft pick and then having to give it to another team. 1487 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,880 Speaker 1: Like I just don't think that that's the same thing. 1488 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:51,479 Speaker 1: I just think it's funny they did all this and 1489 01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,400 Speaker 1: they didn't even get Brady, Like they went through all 1490 01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,719 Speaker 1: this trouble and all or either of them, Like Sean 1491 01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,840 Speaker 1: Payton retires, he's about to move to Miami. Hang out 1492 01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:03,720 Speaker 1: on you can't even cheat, right Dolphin, Oh man, let's 1493 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,400 Speaker 1: jump let's jump over to the phones against sameir from 1494 01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:10,280 Speaker 1: New Hampshire. Hey, sameir, what's going on? Hey guys, UM 1495 01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,400 Speaker 1: really big fan of the show. UM love every guys doing. 1496 01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:18,000 Speaker 1: My number one favorite Teacrets player ever is Jimmy White. 1497 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,479 Speaker 1: Just love him. I love that he does everything right. 1498 01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:22,920 Speaker 1: Um and if he does something wrong, he picks it 1499 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:27,320 Speaker 1: and never does the wrong get there is a chance, 1500 01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,560 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's hard to say, you know just 1501 01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:32,720 Speaker 1: exactly where he is physically. I did see him on 1502 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,920 Speaker 1: the lower practice field today working with Dietrich Wise a 1503 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:42,040 Speaker 1: little bit, and uh someone else, oh, Dalton Keene. But 1504 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know exactly where he is physically. 1505 01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:47,880 Speaker 1: But I think there's a chance that he's not not 1506 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,240 Speaker 1: a part of the team. If he's not one hundred 1507 01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 1: percent and they're looking to move on, I think they 1508 01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,519 Speaker 1: have some depth at that spot. Uh Ti mork Gomery's 1509 01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,200 Speaker 1: gotten a lot of action in the first eight days 1510 01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,320 Speaker 1: of camp. I think he does a lot of those 1511 01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,640 Speaker 1: kinds of things. Different style than James White, but he 1512 01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:05,920 Speaker 1: you know, he can certain He was a wide receiver 1513 01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,880 Speaker 1: initially and transformed into a running back, so he has 1514 01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:13,320 Speaker 1: that ability. I think we've seen Kevin Harris, Damian Harrison, 1515 01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,360 Speaker 1: or mondre Stevens and all catch a ton of passes, 1516 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,880 Speaker 1: so I think they have guys that can do that. 1517 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:22,280 Speaker 1: And if maybe he's not fully healthy, guy is falling off. 1518 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,880 Speaker 1: Literally the sky is fallowing in the studio right now. 1519 01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,120 Speaker 1: I imagine if Mack was here, like he would just 1520 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:31,000 Speaker 1: like fallow hand, what are we doing doing? Thanks to me? 1521 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call, and let's welcome and Evan who 1522 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,840 Speaker 1: just wrote up his piece and posts it. Evan, what 1523 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 1: what Sadatia day a practice any We've obviously been laying 1524 01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:41,679 Speaker 1: it all out. We were there with you watching today, 1525 01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,760 Speaker 1: so but you know, why don't you feed it your way? 1526 01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,120 Speaker 1: I guess as you see it passing game a little 1527 01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,000 Speaker 1: bit better today, I would say, I think that's the positive. 1528 01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,280 Speaker 1: The running game is still a work in progress. And 1529 01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,800 Speaker 1: I think today we saw Devon Gage two or three 1530 01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:58,920 Speaker 1: plays in a row just completely blow up the play 1531 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,200 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. And as you guys are 1532 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,080 Speaker 1: just kind of talking about, on the one hand, you 1533 01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,760 Speaker 1: want to say, oh wow, maybe Devon Gotsha is just 1534 01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,240 Speaker 1: off to a great start and he's going to be 1535 01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 1: a force for the Patriots in the middle of the defense. 1536 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,559 Speaker 1: It's very, very possible. But we've also seen some breakdown. 1537 01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:16,160 Speaker 1: Still with the new stuff in the offense, I don't 1538 01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,560 Speaker 1: want to give away too much, but the new installation 1539 01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,760 Speaker 1: that the Patriots have put in there, some of the 1540 01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,320 Speaker 1: elements that are new to this offense, I think are 1541 01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,040 Speaker 1: the main things that are still bogging it down. When 1542 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,960 Speaker 1: they got later on in the practice, spread the field, 1543 01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,080 Speaker 1: put Mac Jones in shotgun, put some receivers out there. 1544 01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,160 Speaker 1: He was able to hit some passes down the field, 1545 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:36,880 Speaker 1: but when they got to some of that other stuff 1546 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:40,560 Speaker 1: that they've been doing, it seemed like, once again that 1547 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,080 Speaker 1: things were disjointed and not in the right places. So 1548 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,720 Speaker 1: in some ways, I guess that's a positive that the 1549 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,200 Speaker 1: old stuff or the stuff that MAXs comfortable with, seems 1550 01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,160 Speaker 1: to be still clicking a little bit for them. But 1551 01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,320 Speaker 1: some of the under center stuff that they've been doing, 1552 01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,679 Speaker 1: the zone concepts, things like that, still looks like they 1553 01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,400 Speaker 1: aren't one hundred percent and confident with what they're doing. 1554 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think Mac looks like he just 1555 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,320 Speaker 1: doesn't comfortable yet. I mean that I don't know that's 1556 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,120 Speaker 1: a simple way to put it, but it just, you know, 1557 01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:11,160 Speaker 1: you can say all the receivers aren't getting open, or 1558 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:12,960 Speaker 1: it just doesn't look like like last year. What I 1559 01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:14,439 Speaker 1: was so impressed with him is that he came in 1560 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:16,600 Speaker 1: and he played in rhythm, you know. It just it 1561 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,720 Speaker 1: seemed like, Wow, he seemed comfortable in the pocket, the 1562 01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:20,920 Speaker 1: ball comes out, and we saw plenty of those plays, 1563 01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,400 Speaker 1: and I mean, Paul said it at the top, and 1564 01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,360 Speaker 1: I agree with him. It's just it feels like it 1565 01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,479 Speaker 1: looked better last year. And of course new pieces and 1566 01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,040 Speaker 1: new coaches and all those things, but it's a little 1567 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,000 Speaker 1: bit disheartening and it just doesn't seem like he's seeing 1568 01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,479 Speaker 1: any not I don't say anything, he's not seeing it 1569 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,439 Speaker 1: consistently yet, No, he's not. And one of the big 1570 01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,799 Speaker 1: plays that stood out to me was during an eleven 1571 01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:45,160 Speaker 1: on eleven period, they tried to bootleg action him out 1572 01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,040 Speaker 1: and he just threw the ball into the ground right 1573 01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:50,240 Speaker 1: and he was just like, yeah, there's there's a couple 1574 01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:52,800 Speaker 1: guys in my face, I can't really see what's down 1575 01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,439 Speaker 1: the field and there's not much going on anyways, and 1576 01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,120 Speaker 1: just kind of gave up on the play. And I 1577 01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,000 Speaker 1: think in a lot of ways we've seen that frustration 1578 01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,479 Speaker 1: from Mac throughout this week of practice, especially the padded 1579 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:08,880 Speaker 1: practices come through where guys are just not where he 1580 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,360 Speaker 1: expects them to be. The protection has not always been great, 1581 01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,120 Speaker 1: and I think that that's a combination of things there 1582 01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,840 Speaker 1: that has led to some frustrations for him for sure, 1583 01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,439 Speaker 1: which I think last year we didn't really see a 1584 01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:24,000 Speaker 1: ton of frustration during training camp. I think as the 1585 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,320 Speaker 1: season war on, obviously you have your ups and downs 1586 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,559 Speaker 1: and roller coaster ride and all that kind of stuff, 1587 01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,400 Speaker 1: and some of those things started to come out. But 1588 01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,599 Speaker 1: you've heard about the stuff from Alabama how Nick Saman 1589 01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,839 Speaker 1: had to pull him aside and say, hey, your demeanor 1590 01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,840 Speaker 1: and your body language and those things matter when you're 1591 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback, and he sort of was able to rein 1592 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,760 Speaker 1: it in a little bit. We've seen a little bit 1593 01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:47,240 Speaker 1: more frustration this summer so far from Mac. Well, let's 1594 01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,280 Speaker 1: just jump through a question here, because asking about Davante Parker, 1595 01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, is that he's a better but not much 1596 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,519 Speaker 1: better version of nikkill Harry. Is that enough to take 1597 01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,800 Speaker 1: the offense to another level? I would not describe him 1598 01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:04,760 Speaker 1: as that really insulting. Um. I wouldn't even put him 1599 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,880 Speaker 1: in to kill Harry in the same sentence. First of all, Um, 1600 01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,080 Speaker 1: the only thing I think they have like is they are. 1601 01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,600 Speaker 1: We're wearing the same phone phone number, they're we're in 1602 01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,560 Speaker 1: the same Jersey number. Um. I think that you know, 1603 01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,639 Speaker 1: his size and ability is great. He's definitely give given 1604 01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,479 Speaker 1: the defense a hard time and picked him apart most days, 1605 01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,880 Speaker 1: you know, obviously when he is able to get the ball. 1606 01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:27,680 Speaker 1: But it's just night and day difference for me. I 1607 01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,559 Speaker 1: know what I mean, And I don't, of course want 1608 01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,000 Speaker 1: to pick on the keel, but it just it feels 1609 01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,200 Speaker 1: like this is what an actual NFL contested receiver looks like. Yeah. Um, 1610 01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,599 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm not like, this isn't 1611 01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,439 Speaker 1: like im Paul sustainable. This isn't like something to build 1612 01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:42,360 Speaker 1: the offense around contest. I see, I see way too 1613 01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:46,559 Speaker 1: many similarities. It's he's without question better than Harry. Oh yeah, 1614 01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:50,400 Speaker 1: Harry can't. Like you said. I like the way you 1615 01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:53,400 Speaker 1: just said that, this is what a contested catcher NFL 1616 01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:57,760 Speaker 1: receiver looks like. P If Parker gets a chance, he's 1617 01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,800 Speaker 1: going to make the catch, whereas Harry didn't. He doesn't 1618 01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,559 Speaker 1: get open a lot. He just doesn't. He Look, there's 1619 01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,840 Speaker 1: a lot of similarities to me, and I worry about it. Yeah, 1620 01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,960 Speaker 1: he doesn't really create create separation, but he still can 1621 01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,080 Speaker 1: pull him down regardless. And he seems to have some 1622 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:12,920 Speaker 1: good chemistry, which I think today I saw make one 1623 01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:14,720 Speaker 1: catch where he knows when to break things off and 1624 01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,040 Speaker 1: turn back shoulder, and Max hit him a couple of times. 1625 01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,360 Speaker 1: Touchdown today was just up the sideline. But you But 1626 01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,519 Speaker 1: just to get back to my bigger point was that 1627 01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,200 Speaker 1: I don't feel like contested catches is something like you 1628 01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,519 Speaker 1: hang your hat on. It's hey, we're at the eighteen 1629 01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,400 Speaker 1: yard line. We've got Davante Parker. Let's you know, put 1630 01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,200 Speaker 1: him out isolated on one side and see if we 1631 01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:34,600 Speaker 1: can get a mash up on a little corner and 1632 01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,880 Speaker 1: take a shot. And you know, it's not like today 1633 01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:40,000 Speaker 1: we got to get six contented catches from Parker to 1634 01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,400 Speaker 1: move the ball. You know. So I think he's a 1635 01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:45,200 Speaker 1: piece of the puzzle. And maybe I was wrong, and 1636 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,640 Speaker 1: we certainly had had some some conversations about Parker. I 1637 01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:50,600 Speaker 1: thought he'd be the best receiver by far. You know. 1638 01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,560 Speaker 1: I think he's a useful tool. I think in the 1639 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,080 Speaker 1: offense group, yeah yeah, but I think that they need 1640 01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:56,920 Speaker 1: more and they I think they certainly need. You know, 1641 01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:59,040 Speaker 1: I just think I continue to think Kendrick Bourne is 1642 01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,040 Speaker 1: what is kind of missing from the offense, and now 1643 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:02,800 Speaker 1: he had a nice day kind of yesterday when Pad's 1644 01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,360 Speaker 1: dialed back. But I don't know if does that make sense. 1645 01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,160 Speaker 1: Like I think the biggest thing that I'm seeing is 1646 01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:12,080 Speaker 1: when Taekwon Thornton and Nelson Ago are on the field together. 1647 01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,160 Speaker 1: There's so much more speed in this offense than what 1648 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,880 Speaker 1: we've seen over the last couple of years. And not 1649 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,120 Speaker 1: even just taking the top off and having them hit 1650 01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,360 Speaker 1: plays down the field, but we saw today Trey Nixon 1651 01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,920 Speaker 1: Jakobe Myers catching some passes underneath the defense because now 1652 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,719 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that space is opened up because 1653 01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:33,320 Speaker 1: those guys are pushing the safeties up the field. When 1654 01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:37,200 Speaker 1: you roll out Parkurge, Kobe, Kendrick Bourne, the tight ends, 1655 01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:41,840 Speaker 1: that group is once again extremely slow, and at some 1656 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,280 Speaker 1: point in time, I'm sure it'll be they probably already 1657 01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,120 Speaker 1: know this right that they're going to have to have 1658 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,679 Speaker 1: at least one of Agilore and Thornton, if not both 1659 01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,120 Speaker 1: guys out there on the field at the same time, 1660 01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,439 Speaker 1: just to have that vertical threat on the outside, on 1661 01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,000 Speaker 1: the inside, any sort of vertical threat to present to 1662 01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:00,840 Speaker 1: the defense because other wise it's gonna look a lot 1663 01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,920 Speaker 1: like last year. When those safeties are gonna keep crouching down, 1664 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna hug the intermediate and short stuff, and there's 1665 01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:09,000 Speaker 1: really gonna be nowhere to go with the football. So 1666 01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:13,120 Speaker 1: when we were watching practice today when those three players 1667 01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,200 Speaker 1: were out there, and I'm not trying to sing Trey 1668 01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,360 Speaker 1: Nixon's praises like he's the next West Welker, but when 1669 01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:23,840 Speaker 1: when Nelson, Aglore, Thorton and Nixon were out there, those 1670 01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:27,679 Speaker 1: are four four two four four four two eight. That's 1671 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,000 Speaker 1: real NFL speed on the field versus when you see 1672 01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,479 Speaker 1: guys like Parker or Myers or Born. You see the difference, 1673 01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,479 Speaker 1: you can it's palpable that you can see the difference 1674 01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:38,920 Speaker 1: with the pace of the offense. And I think right 1675 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:42,839 Speaker 1: now there they need that pace from those outside receivers especially. 1676 01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,760 Speaker 1: We got a goode from Anthony. It's not a game, um, 1677 01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,120 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna make it a game just because he's 1678 01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,200 Speaker 1: he's he's asking a few names and I'm just gonna 1679 01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,120 Speaker 1: throw these names out there. Maybe you guys can just 1680 01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:53,840 Speaker 1: like hop in, give us, you know a few little 1681 01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,280 Speaker 1: things of what you think. And um, so he says 1682 01:21:56,280 --> 01:22:00,960 Speaker 1: any observations on oocha speed Rush still has that in 1683 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,320 Speaker 1: his bag. If he gets the edge, he can make plays. 1684 01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:08,240 Speaker 1: If you get a hand on him, he's done. Jewan Williams, 1685 01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,360 Speaker 1: I don't see. I don't see. Yes. I mean he's 1686 01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:13,600 Speaker 1: think he's made a couple of plays, but it's the 1687 01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,040 Speaker 1: same thing. He grabby. He's very grabby, Verry grabby. He's 1688 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:20,519 Speaker 1: a big, big guy, very hands, very hands. Uh. Ronnie Perkins, 1689 01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:25,960 Speaker 1: my guy had a tough camp well kind of like invisible. Yeah. 1690 01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,800 Speaker 1: I haven't only seen many reps for him with frontline guys, 1691 01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,280 Speaker 1: no couple today. I thought he was over there. We 1692 01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:35,880 Speaker 1: shoot on out. It felt like Jennings got bumped up 1693 01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,639 Speaker 1: a spot and Perkins got bumped up. Jennings definitely bumped 1694 01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:40,800 Speaker 1: up a spot. Yeah, you're right, but but I think 1695 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,280 Speaker 1: it illustrates the depth situation that they have there. And 1696 01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,519 Speaker 1: you see, you know, the one day that that your 1697 01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,599 Speaker 1: star edge guy is out, you're you know now you're 1698 01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:52,200 Speaker 1: going to Perkins who didn't or I'm sorry, uh totally 1699 01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,640 Speaker 1: blank right now Afreny Jennyferny Jennings, is you know a 1700 01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,559 Speaker 1: guy who didn't play last year? Perkins didn't play last year. Um, 1701 01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,439 Speaker 1: That's why I think there's some people calling for for 1702 01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,600 Speaker 1: Trey Flowers and I wouldn't totally be against that. What 1703 01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:05,160 Speaker 1: do you think? What do you think about Trey Flowers? 1704 01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,040 Speaker 1: Would you be into that one? Evan? I think Trey 1705 01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,200 Speaker 1: always was better as a four three end, you know 1706 01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,719 Speaker 1: when they ran those four man lines that he always 1707 01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,160 Speaker 1: was great in that role. He's not a stand up linebacker, right, 1708 01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,519 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a hand in the dirt defensive lineman. 1709 01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,600 Speaker 1: But I always loved about Trey Flowers is versatility. I 1710 01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:22,200 Speaker 1: mean they could line them up over the nose and 1711 01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,799 Speaker 1: pass through situations and have them get after the quarterback. 1712 01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,800 Speaker 1: So I'm all forward. I think he fits this scheme 1713 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,559 Speaker 1: like a glove, But I don't know if that They're 1714 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:32,200 Speaker 1: gonna have to be an even front team for him 1715 01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,439 Speaker 1: to be a full time player. YEP. Another one here 1716 01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:39,080 Speaker 1: from Let's see V in Pittsburgh. Based on what you're 1717 01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:40,800 Speaker 1: observing day to day, is it looking more like a 1718 01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,559 Speaker 1: a complete transition to a new wide zone offensive scheme, 1719 01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:47,000 Speaker 1: a trans a streamline hybrid scheme with elements borrowed from 1720 01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,760 Speaker 1: both EP and w Z offense. I'm not sure wide 1721 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:54,599 Speaker 1: zone I guess or primarily and the old EP scheme 1722 01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:56,760 Speaker 1: with some elements of w Z. I'll let you jump 1723 01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:59,200 Speaker 1: on that one is hard purchase. Oh cool, got you? 1724 01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:04,280 Speaker 1: That will be my guest YEP. I don't spec, mister, 1725 01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:08,240 Speaker 1: I don't do the film. He's like, I didn't tell 1726 01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,840 Speaker 1: you I could break it down, all right, put it this. 1727 01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:12,920 Speaker 1: I didn't tell you I could pretend to break it down. 1728 01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,680 Speaker 1: I just know the terminology and I throw it out 1729 01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:18,320 Speaker 1: there when I need to. I appreciate one. I appreciate 1730 01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:19,519 Speaker 1: it through me. I mean I know it is. It 1731 01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,000 Speaker 1: threw me for a loop though with the that's the offense. Yeah, 1732 01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:23,439 Speaker 1: that was the old office, And I do think it's 1733 01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,280 Speaker 1: going to continue, Evan, you can weigh in here. I 1734 01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,200 Speaker 1: think it's going to be a hybrid. I think Bill 1735 01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,960 Speaker 1: kind of said it yesterday. Yeah, when he talked about this. 1736 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:31,880 Speaker 1: These are the runs we're doing. Now we're gonna get 1737 01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,560 Speaker 1: to some gap runs down the road again. I'm just 1738 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,160 Speaker 1: listening to the terminology. Don't ask me what the difference 1739 01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:41,000 Speaker 1: like that that that that's Evans. Don't ask me that. 1740 01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:43,960 Speaker 1: The biggest thing that stands out to me with what 1741 01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:48,360 Speaker 1: they're doing is okay, I fully one hundred percent believe 1742 01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,920 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick when he says there will be gap runs 1743 01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:54,960 Speaker 1: in the playbook. But is that going to be more 1744 01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,400 Speaker 1: of like a game plan thing where you know, this 1745 01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,760 Speaker 1: wide zone scheme. If you play a team that has 1746 01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,080 Speaker 1: a really good penetrating front and they're going to get 1747 01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:04,920 Speaker 1: up the field on you, you're not. You don't want 1748 01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,240 Speaker 1: to run stretch against a team that's guys that are 1749 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,559 Speaker 1: firing through gaps all the time, right, So that might 1750 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:11,760 Speaker 1: be a week where you get into more of those 1751 01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,000 Speaker 1: gap runs that they used to run. So the Patriots 1752 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,000 Speaker 1: are always going to be, to me a offensive game 1753 01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,160 Speaker 1: plan defense where if they feel the best way to 1754 01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,200 Speaker 1: attack the opponent is to run man blocking schemes and 1755 01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:24,960 Speaker 1: to bring the pulling guards and the lead plays and 1756 01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,240 Speaker 1: things like that back, they're going to run that. But 1757 01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,400 Speaker 1: when I watched them out at practice, it's the play 1758 01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,200 Speaker 1: action that's getting me, right, is because if you're going 1759 01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,519 Speaker 1: to be running gap as much as or more than 1760 01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:40,559 Speaker 1: the zone stuff, then where are the gap play action passes? 1761 01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,760 Speaker 1: Because we haven't really seen those, So are those coming 1762 01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,280 Speaker 1: next week or those coming once they close the practices 1763 01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:50,920 Speaker 1: and disappear for the rest of the season. I don't know, 1764 01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:55,439 Speaker 1: but right now, the whole point of your running game 1765 01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,800 Speaker 1: and play action passing game is to marry the concepts together. 1766 01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:01,360 Speaker 1: You want it to look all the same to the defense, 1767 01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:03,320 Speaker 1: so they don't know if it's run or pass and 1768 01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,360 Speaker 1: they're repping like they're running zone and they're running play 1769 01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:07,960 Speaker 1: action off of the zone. If they were going to 1770 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,639 Speaker 1: start running some gap stuff and be a major gap team, 1771 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:12,800 Speaker 1: then they would be running gap play action and we 1772 01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,200 Speaker 1: just haven't seen that. Yeah, and I agree with Evan 1773 01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,360 Speaker 1: in that they will have. I think that they'll probably 1774 01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,639 Speaker 1: have both elements in the bag. But you're not gonna 1775 01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,160 Speaker 1: like say like, okay, we're gonna open up and you know, 1776 01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,160 Speaker 1: let's let's hit them with some with some you know, 1777 01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,160 Speaker 1: zone reads and you know, do you know some RPOs 1778 01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:31,800 Speaker 1: and let's let's get it all you know the wide 1779 01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,360 Speaker 1: gap you know inside Oh wait a minute, it's not working. 1780 01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,040 Speaker 1: Let's just go let's go to the gaps. No, it's 1781 01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:38,960 Speaker 1: gonna be game plan related. You're gonna go into a 1782 01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:40,680 Speaker 1: games man, this is how we're going to attack them 1783 01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,160 Speaker 1: this week and next week. It might be a totally 1784 01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,160 Speaker 1: different kind of a defensive scheme that you're gonna see 1785 01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,880 Speaker 1: and he's gonna go with the opposite. Again, that's why 1786 01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:51,519 Speaker 1: they're coaches. They know what schemes work better against, you know, 1787 01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,960 Speaker 1: certain looks defensively. You know you made the comment about 1788 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,920 Speaker 1: the penetrating defensive front is tough on on that kind 1789 01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,360 Speaker 1: of a scheme. That's where you're going to see the differences. 1790 01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,920 Speaker 1: But the bottom line right now is like, I think 1791 01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,439 Speaker 1: it's more execution basis. I think we can keep looking 1792 01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,680 Speaker 1: no matter what. Again, on our show, we argued, right 1793 01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:14,519 Speaker 1: the three of us argued all spring right about the plan. 1794 01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,560 Speaker 1: I don't like the plan. I just don't think this 1795 01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,600 Speaker 1: is anything to do with the plan. They're just not 1796 01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,360 Speaker 1: executing very well right now. Yeah. Yeah, it all goes 1797 01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,160 Speaker 1: back to the super Bowl in twenty nineteen to me 1798 01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:27,040 Speaker 1: as well, because that Rams team had one thing in 1799 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:29,400 Speaker 1: their bag and one thing only, and that was wide 1800 01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:32,400 Speaker 1: zone right wide zone, bootleg off of it, crossing routes, 1801 01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,000 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, and what it Bill Belichick deal. 1802 01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:36,559 Speaker 1: He held them to three points in the Super Bowl 1803 01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:40,000 Speaker 1: because the auto do it every time Jared Goff went 1804 01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:42,559 Speaker 1: like this one way and went the other way, fifty 1805 01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:45,800 Speaker 1: four was in his face. Yeah, exactly, yeah. And and 1806 01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,640 Speaker 1: if you listen, and this is out there, if you 1807 01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,400 Speaker 1: listen to some of those sideline things that the NFL does, 1808 01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:53,559 Speaker 1: they have Bill Belichick. They have a clip of him 1809 01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:56,759 Speaker 1: saying to the interior defensive lineman, get vertical, Get vertical, 1810 01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:59,360 Speaker 1: Get vertical, because when they stretch, you want to shoot 1811 01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,519 Speaker 1: those gaps right, and you don't want to let that 1812 01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,559 Speaker 1: delay kind of happen because you're rushing them into making 1813 01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,559 Speaker 1: that decision. The Rams had one thing in their bag. 1814 01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,200 Speaker 1: Bill figured it out, and then the Rams came back 1815 01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,800 Speaker 1: with Sean mcvayh and now they run different stuff. They 1816 01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,040 Speaker 1: have a couple of different elements in their playbook and 1817 01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,640 Speaker 1: they've added to their running game. They run duo. Now, 1818 01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:20,599 Speaker 1: they run some of the motion things that they ran 1819 01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,240 Speaker 1: against the Patriots a few years ago, and that has 1820 01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:26,040 Speaker 1: allowed them to be more productive and not just be 1821 01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,360 Speaker 1: a one trick pony. So the Patriots are never going 1822 01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,080 Speaker 1: to be a one trick pony. They're always going to 1823 01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:33,640 Speaker 1: have multiple things to do. What happened in that what 1824 01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:36,360 Speaker 1: happened in that twenty twenty Rams game, that was a 1825 01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,719 Speaker 1: she lacking right, So they had the motion coming across 1826 01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:40,360 Speaker 1: and what they were doing was they were adding on 1827 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,640 Speaker 1: blockers to the end of the line of scrimmage, so 1828 01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,760 Speaker 1: their motioning guys across and leading with that receiver. And 1829 01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:47,920 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, the dbs are in the fit. Right, 1830 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:49,519 Speaker 1: So now you have the safeties, you have the corners. 1831 01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:51,600 Speaker 1: They're coming down and trying to stop the run. You 1832 01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:53,920 Speaker 1: don't want your corners stopping the run, right, you want 1833 01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,000 Speaker 1: your linebacker stopping the run. So that that was the 1834 01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,760 Speaker 1: conflict there some of my diving into outside zone. I 1835 01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:00,200 Speaker 1: sell A funny quote from a coach was like, we 1836 01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,400 Speaker 1: don't we don't we want we want to block safeties. 1837 01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:04,120 Speaker 1: We want to make corners tackle. I thought that was 1838 01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,960 Speaker 1: a good little like football philosophy of like block the 1839 01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,400 Speaker 1: safeties because they liked the tackle corner. Do you like 1840 01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:11,559 Speaker 1: the little phrases like me right? I think the phrases 1841 01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,680 Speaker 1: Poor Miles Bryant is trying to hang on for dear 1842 01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:19,360 Speaker 1: life as receivers are coming out, Uh Jack jacking on Anna, 1843 01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,600 Speaker 1: But he's got a good U this or that. On 1844 01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:24,280 Speaker 1: the fifty three man opening day roster, you guys ready, 1845 01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:25,760 Speaker 1: a couple of couple of guys like this guy or 1846 01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:29,080 Speaker 1: this guy. You gotta pick one Tray Nixon or Sean Wade. 1847 01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:35,519 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Trey Trey Nixon, Trey try try everybody try 1848 01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,719 Speaker 1: think so Heke Wades. I mean, can we do both 1849 01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:44,240 Speaker 1: neither as options? Sure, we'll take both rosters. Uh well, 1850 01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,719 Speaker 1: two of my guys, Lebron Ray and Brendon Schooler, school 1851 01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:51,000 Speaker 1: both give me both. I think Lebron Ray's got a 1852 01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:52,760 Speaker 1: good shot based off of what we see. I think 1853 01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:55,040 Speaker 1: they have a crush on Schooler. Yeah, I do too. 1854 01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,320 Speaker 1: I've never seen a guy involved in so many different 1855 01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:01,040 Speaker 1: things now as an undrafted Ebner esque yeah right, yeah, 1856 01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:02,519 Speaker 1: and I and I've seen like and you know, you 1857 01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:04,599 Speaker 1: catch little moments here and there through practice, Like I've 1858 01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:06,800 Speaker 1: caught a couple like Cam eight Court, like yep, that's it. 1859 01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:08,280 Speaker 1: That's it, like with like the kind of the hit 1860 01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,559 Speaker 1: on the boat. So we've seen him throughout the spring 1861 01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,639 Speaker 1: and now into camp, you know, working with like Slater 1862 01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:17,000 Speaker 1: in Bethel and Dye Davis. Right, So clearly they want 1863 01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:20,679 Speaker 1: to refine his special teams techniques. He's like on kickoff, 1864 01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:24,639 Speaker 1: he's on punt, He's worked as the personal protector on punt. 1865 01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:28,080 Speaker 1: You know, um, all of a sudden, the last couple 1866 01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:31,240 Speaker 1: of days early in eleven on eleven's he's out there 1867 01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,639 Speaker 1: at safety, which to me is telling me to your 1868 01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:36,960 Speaker 1: Nate Ebner point Evan, this is a guy that's on 1869 01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,559 Speaker 1: my game day roster, so I need to get him 1870 01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:43,519 Speaker 1: prepared in the What do we do if situation happens, 1871 01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,479 Speaker 1: like when Sean Mayer is finishing the Super Bowl in 1872 01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:50,040 Speaker 1: Houston against Carolina. Yeah, that's what I do. I go back. 1873 01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:51,799 Speaker 1: I could go back to things that I can remember 1874 01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,719 Speaker 1: were you're born for that one? Right? Wow, I already 1875 01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:56,880 Speaker 1: told that a hole, and he's not allowed to do 1876 01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:00,679 Speaker 1: that anymore. I can't. He can't tell gently talking about 1877 01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:04,360 Speaker 1: Richard Seymour because he was nine. Yeah, is nine years 1878 01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:06,519 Speaker 1: old when Richard Seymour was a Patriot, and I think 1879 01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:09,439 Speaker 1: he almost punched me. How dare you be so young? 1880 01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:14,080 Speaker 1: We got two more. Arlington Hambright the Hambone. I'm loving him, 1881 01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:16,960 Speaker 1: and yes, here Durance, I think it's got to be Hambright, right, 1882 01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:18,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he's kind of one of the surprises of 1883 01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:20,800 Speaker 1: the King. I would go both there, but if I 1884 01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:22,599 Speaker 1: have to pick one, it would be him. Right. Yeah, 1885 01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,240 Speaker 1: you look up and you see Arlington Hambright in the 1886 01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:29,639 Speaker 1: on offensive line and you're just kind of do double 1887 01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,880 Speaker 1: take after after the third play he goes to right 1888 01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:35,560 Speaker 1: guard and he finishes out the set and then the 1889 01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:37,559 Speaker 1: next set. A lot of times after the third play 1890 01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:40,000 Speaker 1: he places Strange on the left side, which tells me 1891 01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:43,840 Speaker 1: they're trying to find who's that interior swing back up, 1892 01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:46,679 Speaker 1: just like they do with tackle, and I think Haran 1893 01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,920 Speaker 1: is probably that guy at tackle. Right. Yeah, Well, Harrons 1894 01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,320 Speaker 1: look pretty good too. I mean one was impressed with 1895 01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,720 Speaker 1: him today, right, So, I mean I think that you're 1896 01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:56,920 Speaker 1: looking to build your depth. You're gonna have seven or 1897 01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:00,599 Speaker 1: eight on the game day roster, and then you always 1898 01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:05,360 Speaker 1: have guys on the practice squad too, So it's I 1899 01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,240 Speaker 1: think both of those guys could be around, but Hambright 1900 01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,040 Speaker 1: would be my pick. If I don't only pick one. 1901 01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:13,559 Speaker 1: If they're gonna be zone heavy, then Arlington. Hambright's got 1902 01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:16,120 Speaker 1: that kind of ability to get out of his stance 1903 01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,280 Speaker 1: and get out on the perimeter like they're gonna need 1904 01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:21,640 Speaker 1: last one. A couple of guys, well, Sam Roberts or 1905 01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:23,560 Speaker 1: Daniel aquality, I mean, I think aquality is popped a 1906 01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:24,880 Speaker 1: little bit. I was kind of hoping for more from 1907 01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:27,160 Speaker 1: Sam Roberts. I could maybe see equality but I think 1908 01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:29,680 Speaker 1: he's in there in that mix with Lebrian Rays like 1909 01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:34,040 Speaker 1: a secondary kind of Russian. Either one's probably both start 1910 01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:37,160 Speaker 1: on the practice squad. Yes, with sixteen guys, you got it. 1911 01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:38,519 Speaker 1: I mean there's plenty of guys that are gonna be 1912 01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:41,120 Speaker 1: part of the program that aren't necessarily on the game 1913 01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:44,439 Speaker 1: day roster opening day, uh, Giovannie writes, and she just 1914 01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:46,839 Speaker 1: had a question. I believe it's it's a it's a female. 1915 01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:51,360 Speaker 1: It's interesting, but with a why all right, I don't 1916 01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:54,840 Speaker 1: know who cares, doesn't matter anyway, Um, go with the guy, 1917 01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:58,760 Speaker 1: all right, Jovanni, whatever you are, Uh from Alexandria way 1918 01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:03,200 Speaker 1: of lawrence, just expect just saying that the full podcasts, 1919 01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:05,519 Speaker 1: I think from the third and Monday the first weren't 1920 01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:09,000 Speaker 1: are not posted. I think that's a that's an editing issue, right, correct, Matt, 1921 01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:10,720 Speaker 1: Like they said, I think it's the live some of 1922 01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:15,120 Speaker 1: the live training camp podcasts. Maybe music issue. Perhaps podcasts 1923 01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:19,160 Speaker 1: only should be posted, but like, but probably I think 1924 01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:21,080 Speaker 1: the music I think was too loud in them though 1925 01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:24,400 Speaker 1: from the live shows. From the live shows, but you 1926 01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:27,160 Speaker 1: were talking about just the podcast, Yeah, they said, the 1927 01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:29,519 Speaker 1: full podcast from yesterday August third and the full podcast 1928 01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,840 Speaker 1: from Monday. The first never posted on my podcast app 1929 01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:35,240 Speaker 1: Spotify and pocket casts. Also not that they didn't post 1930 01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:37,519 Speaker 1: on the Patriots app. Any insight on that, not sure. 1931 01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:39,680 Speaker 1: We appreciate you letting us know, though, we'll look into that. 1932 01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:41,920 Speaker 1: We we know we do have audio issues now that 1933 01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,599 Speaker 1: like if any hint of music gets picked. And I'm 1934 01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:47,519 Speaker 1: just thinking that those days when we did the training 1935 01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,880 Speaker 1: camp podcast was up there, so maybe there was some 1936 01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:53,000 Speaker 1: music plan. I don't know, Yeah, that that seems very possible. 1937 01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:57,679 Speaker 1: But Johnson from Nose of US Scotia Nova Scotia, where 1938 01:33:57,680 --> 01:33:59,799 Speaker 1: we've just had Brady for so long. As our expectation 1939 01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:03,000 Speaker 1: the offense too high. Last year, my expectation were an 1940 01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:05,240 Speaker 1: eight win team and it's not changed much. I'm not 1941 01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:07,719 Speaker 1: a firm believer of the our defense is good theory. 1942 01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,360 Speaker 1: I like that in quotes, but I'll try to be 1943 01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:14,280 Speaker 1: optimistic as we look to make some strides. I'm really 1944 01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:16,479 Speaker 1: enjoying the varying voices and takes us year. Oh, that's nice, 1945 01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:20,080 Speaker 1: appreciate it. I mean, our expectations, of course are way 1946 01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:22,360 Speaker 1: too high, right, I mean Patriots fans are like, like, 1947 01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:24,120 Speaker 1: you had to know this was coming that, like you've 1948 01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:26,439 Speaker 1: been spoiled for twenty years. You think you think it's 1949 01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:28,720 Speaker 1: already just gonna all of a sudden click together and 1950 01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:31,439 Speaker 1: work and you'll be in the AFC Championship, and you know, 1951 01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:33,400 Speaker 1: it's it's just it's showing how hard it is. And 1952 01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:35,920 Speaker 1: I think a lot of the a lot of the 1953 01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:38,040 Speaker 1: misfires and things that have kind of added up in 1954 01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:39,920 Speaker 1: recent history. I have played a role in that, and 1955 01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:41,880 Speaker 1: I think this is a critical year. And and you know, 1956 01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,960 Speaker 1: now we're talking about resetting the offense, which there was 1957 01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:47,000 Speaker 1: another email that wrote in I'll just I forget who 1958 01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:48,840 Speaker 1: exactly it was, but just to bring it up saying, 1959 01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:51,599 Speaker 1: you know, like why now was this really necessary? Shouldn't 1960 01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,680 Speaker 1: we had done this last year? And I wonder, you know, 1961 01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:58,320 Speaker 1: was Josh knowing he might be out, you know, knowing. 1962 01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:01,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't fault them for saying we can't 1963 01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:04,439 Speaker 1: speak Josh McDaniels language, you know, we can't speak that, 1964 01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:06,720 Speaker 1: and coach that we need to kind of hit the 1965 01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:10,160 Speaker 1: reset button. I understand that. I think it just comes 1966 01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:11,880 Speaker 1: back to though, if you're simplifying and you're trying to 1967 01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:14,479 Speaker 1: make it easier, wise it looks so clunky early on. Well, 1968 01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:18,080 Speaker 1: first of all, Josh McDaniels is gonna coach with Josh 1969 01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:21,360 Speaker 1: McDaniel is gonna coach like, he's not changing his system. 1970 01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:23,680 Speaker 1: I guarantee you he'll run the same thing he ran 1971 01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:26,360 Speaker 1: here for ten years with the Raiders. This year, Josh 1972 01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:29,320 Speaker 1: McDaniels runs his offense for better or worse. I mean, 1973 01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:31,960 Speaker 1: even with Cam Newton, there were still so many elements 1974 01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:34,479 Speaker 1: all really the only things that were made for Cam 1975 01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:36,760 Speaker 1: were like the design quarterback runs and things like that. 1976 01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:39,719 Speaker 1: All the passing game was still Josh McDaniels is offense, 1977 01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:42,439 Speaker 1: so he's not going to change his stripes. So this 1978 01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,960 Speaker 1: year it's a different animal. Now you have different coaches, 1979 01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:47,960 Speaker 1: and why is it If it's simplified, why does it 1980 01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:50,040 Speaker 1: look so I still come back to the fact that 1981 01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,840 Speaker 1: this is a very rhythmic based system that they're trying 1982 01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:55,320 Speaker 1: to implement, especially on the ground, and that is not 1983 01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:58,519 Speaker 1: going to come together in three padded practices. That's gonna 1984 01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:01,680 Speaker 1: take some time. And like we said the other day, 1985 01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:03,880 Speaker 1: if it doesn't look good in September, if it doesn't 1986 01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:07,479 Speaker 1: look good in October, and we will react accordingly. But 1987 01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:10,120 Speaker 1: for right now, your three padded practices into this thing. 1988 01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:13,639 Speaker 1: It's not going to be a finished product at this point. Yeah, 1989 01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:15,840 Speaker 1: we'd like to see a little bit more progress in 1990 01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:19,120 Speaker 1: the running game, but overall they're going to have some 1991 01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:21,600 Speaker 1: growing pains with this type of system. Well, here's a 1992 01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:23,800 Speaker 1: question for the group. I mean, you know, they're probably 1993 01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:26,960 Speaker 1: we've talked about Tomorrow night in stadium, probably not going 1994 01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:30,880 Speaker 1: to learn much Tomorrow night. Then possibly it seems like 1995 01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:33,400 Speaker 1: Saturday Sunday off, we're going to come back here on 1996 01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:36,360 Speaker 1: Monday Tuesday for practice. We get back to practice, the 1997 01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:39,840 Speaker 1: Hochey staff had a chance to reevaluate things. What are 1998 01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:41,840 Speaker 1: you looking to see when we get back out here 1999 01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:45,439 Speaker 1: on Monday. Be it a play, a player, a certain 2000 01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:47,479 Speaker 1: player you'd like to see more of, you know, just 2001 01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,760 Speaker 1: simple execution. But you know, for you, what would make 2002 01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:52,799 Speaker 1: you feel better if we came out here on Monday 2003 01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:56,759 Speaker 1: and this happened. Kendrick Bourne, I think that we've discussed 2004 01:36:56,800 --> 01:37:00,080 Speaker 1: that a few times, just been very silent camp like. 2005 01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:03,200 Speaker 1: It hasn't been someone that we've really talked about much. 2006 01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean talking about a little bit today because today's 2007 01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:09,920 Speaker 1: his birthday. Yeah, his balloon. He was handing out balloons 2008 01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:15,800 Speaker 1: like I mean outside of the his energy and um, yeah, 2009 01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:17,479 Speaker 1: you know, he lights up a room. I feel like 2010 01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:19,880 Speaker 1: that we really haven't seen him light up the field, 2011 01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:23,160 Speaker 1: and I think that I'm hoping that maybe next week 2012 01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:25,320 Speaker 1: for the two practices that we get to see that 2013 01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:29,559 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see him actually become active. I mean maybe. 2014 01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:31,880 Speaker 1: I mean that's been like the running pattern is like 2015 01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:33,639 Speaker 1: when we bring someone up. We brought up Jacobe Myers 2016 01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:35,400 Speaker 1: and that he's been silent. The next day he showed up, 2017 01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:38,599 Speaker 1: so um speaking to existence. Yeah, maybe we'll speak into 2018 01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:41,400 Speaker 1: existence and see Kendrick Bourne actually you know come in action. 2019 01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:43,400 Speaker 1: And I really liked with Evan shared like when when 2020 01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:47,720 Speaker 1: you have you know, um Born and Thornton and who 2021 01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:51,360 Speaker 1: knows train Nix in like, you know, just things get 2022 01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:53,960 Speaker 1: better on the field. And so I'm hoping that that 2023 01:37:54,160 --> 01:38:00,080 Speaker 1: is the case. Yeah, anybody Paul two tight ends. I 2024 01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,120 Speaker 1: just need Mac Jones to look more comfortable. I want to. 2025 01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:04,040 Speaker 1: I don't even care about the results as much. I 2026 01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:06,800 Speaker 1: want him to look more comfortable. The player that Evan 2027 01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:09,840 Speaker 1: talked about where he's you know, it's a play action boot. 2028 01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,120 Speaker 1: He rolls out and he's like this is you know 2029 01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:17,600 Speaker 1: this this thinks, you know, underhand, disgusted, throw up to 2030 01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:20,320 Speaker 1: He just doesn't look happy, and I just want to 2031 01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:22,519 Speaker 1: see him look like he did last year, Like the 2032 01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:25,800 Speaker 1: guy that was like sort of competing all the time 2033 01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,000 Speaker 1: last year. It looks like right now he's just searching 2034 01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,479 Speaker 1: for answers. Yeah, it just doesn't feel like everyone's on 2035 01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:32,760 Speaker 1: the same page. Like if we could just have that 2036 01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:36,800 Speaker 1: working towards like a collective goal, it would just feel 2037 01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:39,479 Speaker 1: more cohesive in the timing and some kind of day 2038 01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:40,800 Speaker 1: he just finished and like, oh, I feel like the 2039 01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:44,040 Speaker 1: offense has got it. But if you mentioned two tight ends, 2040 01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,360 Speaker 1: and I mean my question for you, is it because 2041 01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:48,000 Speaker 1: you know you, I thought you made a good point 2042 01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:51,200 Speaker 1: about Agalore and Thornton and getting more speed on the field. 2043 01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:53,840 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, I just don't feel like they're 2044 01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:55,800 Speaker 1: that dynamic with those two tight ends. Like I think 2045 01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,200 Speaker 1: that they're useful guys, But why do you think is 2046 01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:00,519 Speaker 1: the two tight ends? What what difference that make? I 2047 01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:03,880 Speaker 1: guess it's more for me like formationally because I think 2048 01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:07,800 Speaker 1: Johnny Smith ideally, if this is the way that they're going, 2049 01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:10,599 Speaker 1: then Johnny Smith is there, Kyle us Chick, right, he's 2050 01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:12,680 Speaker 1: somebody that's going to play like more of like an 2051 01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:15,160 Speaker 1: h back fullback type of role this year and be 2052 01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:18,360 Speaker 1: moved around and do some different things from different angles 2053 01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:21,559 Speaker 1: and slide into the into the flats and then take 2054 01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:23,600 Speaker 1: those little dump boss when there's nothing open down the 2055 01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:25,559 Speaker 1: field and have some room to run with the football. 2056 01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:28,600 Speaker 1: Whereas Hunter Henry. Not to compare Hunter Henry to the 2057 01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:30,600 Speaker 1: probably the best tight end football and George Kittle, but 2058 01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:33,240 Speaker 1: Hunter Henry is more of your traditional tight end, right, 2059 01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:34,720 Speaker 1: the guy that's going to get open at the top 2060 01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:37,040 Speaker 1: of the route and maybe create some one on one 2061 01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:40,120 Speaker 1: matchup problems and things like that. I still think that 2062 01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:43,719 Speaker 1: that is going to be their base package ideally, where 2063 01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:47,280 Speaker 1: really Johnny is essentially like what they've used a fullback 2064 01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:50,160 Speaker 1: for in the past, but is a better version of 2065 01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:52,400 Speaker 1: a fullback, right, somebody that's a little bit more dynamic 2066 01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:55,120 Speaker 1: in the passing game, and then you get some of 2067 01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:57,680 Speaker 1: that speed on the outside and create a lot of 2068 01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:01,240 Speaker 1: opportunities underneath for those tight ends for the backs things 2069 01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:04,160 Speaker 1: like that. I think that that's where their offense is 2070 01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:06,599 Speaker 1: going to be the most productive outside of like spread 2071 01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:08,800 Speaker 1: eleven personnel with Mac and the gun type of stuff, 2072 01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:10,960 Speaker 1: which is probably going to be more third down, you know, 2073 01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,920 Speaker 1: two minute or whatever. So when they come out first 2074 01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:16,720 Speaker 1: and ten, twenty yard line, twenty five yard line, you know, 2075 01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:20,880 Speaker 1: first quarter opening possession. I would like to see it 2076 01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:23,360 Speaker 1: be more twelve personnel heavy this year, certainly than it 2077 01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:25,760 Speaker 1: was last year, where they really surprised us. All. They 2078 01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:28,040 Speaker 1: were twenty seventh in the league and twelve personnel usage 2079 01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,920 Speaker 1: last year basically didn't everybody happy, right, you thought that 2080 01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:32,960 Speaker 1: that's what they were going back to Crock and Hernandez 2081 01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:35,519 Speaker 1: and but I just wonder if it's because and I 2082 01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:37,680 Speaker 1: think everything Evan said makes a ton of sense, and 2083 01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:40,479 Speaker 1: he even dumbed it down, so I like, no, but 2084 01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:42,760 Speaker 1: like in all seriousness, you're talking about a scheme, and 2085 01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:45,040 Speaker 1: I know exactly what he means by saying Jono Smith 2086 01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:49,960 Speaker 1: is their youth checond. Like I think Jonah Smith is 2087 01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,479 Speaker 1: wildly more athletic than Kyle you should. I just don't 2088 01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:54,960 Speaker 1: know if he's as good a football player. Yeah, instinct 2089 01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:57,800 Speaker 1: like you're saying, like when you're talking about getting the 2090 01:40:57,800 --> 01:40:59,760 Speaker 1: ball to him in space, you know, quick, little show it, 2091 01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,639 Speaker 1: get him out. I don't he doesn't ever look comfortable 2092 01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:05,640 Speaker 1: doing that to me. Yeah, yeah, ever, like if you 2093 01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:07,160 Speaker 1: can get the ball in his hands and he's actually 2094 01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:11,559 Speaker 1: running with it. But like I think of those plays 2095 01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:13,120 Speaker 1: early in the season last year, I think they were 2096 01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:14,880 Speaker 1: I think they planned on using the ton It's weelve 2097 01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:17,559 Speaker 1: personnel last year, and then Jonah got off to as 2098 01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:20,800 Speaker 1: dreadful as starters you could get, and they said, we 2099 01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:23,240 Speaker 1: can't have this guy out there all the time. Well, 2100 01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:25,280 Speaker 1: I think the hope is is that it's similar to 2101 01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:27,720 Speaker 1: what he did in Tennessee under Arthur Smith, who is 2102 01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:31,320 Speaker 1: also a wide zone adjacent type of coach. Maybe hand 2103 01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:33,479 Speaker 1: the ball to him. Yeah, they handed him the ball, 2104 01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:36,800 Speaker 1: They threw him screens. They really just schemed him. Do 2105 01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:39,120 Speaker 1: you remember the screens last year to him? Those are 2106 01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:41,760 Speaker 1: some of his more productive plays. Honestly though some of them, 2107 01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:46,000 Speaker 1: some of those screens I can remember, Like, it just 2108 01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:49,960 Speaker 1: doesn't it didn't look comfortable. A lot that's getting his 2109 01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:52,320 Speaker 1: legs knocked out from I mean just generally, I think 2110 01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:53,920 Speaker 1: a lot of that, and I think you see it 2111 01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:55,680 Speaker 1: even some in this training camp, Like I don't. I 2112 01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:57,880 Speaker 1: mean I haven't seen a ton out of him early, 2113 01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:00,840 Speaker 1: but it's just sometimes it just doesn't look athletic, it 2114 01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:04,200 Speaker 1: doesn't look I mean you said like and He'thtic is 2115 01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:06,920 Speaker 1: like I think it should be like the package of 2116 01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:11,920 Speaker 1: his skills to me should produce more. He's just not 2117 01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:14,439 Speaker 1: the type of guy and never has beens. This isn't 2118 01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:17,320 Speaker 1: a slight on him. He's not the type of guy 2119 01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:19,519 Speaker 1: that gets to the top of the route, makes a cut, 2120 01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:23,040 Speaker 1: gets open, and and has that sort of production right 2121 01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:26,000 Speaker 1: where he's in that sort of vein with the Titans, 2122 01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:28,800 Speaker 1: it was a lot of scheme touches or uh you know, 2123 01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:33,240 Speaker 1: motion type of plays with him, screens kind of motioning 2124 01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:35,560 Speaker 1: him into the flats off of those bootleg actions and 2125 01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:39,080 Speaker 1: things like that, and then red zone production on contested catches. 2126 01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:42,080 Speaker 1: Those were his two big buckets that he would get 2127 01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:44,160 Speaker 1: a lot of his stats from and a lot of 2128 01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:47,120 Speaker 1: his production from. If you want to use a tight 2129 01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:49,400 Speaker 1: end to that can block a little bit that can 2130 01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:50,960 Speaker 1: get open at the top of the route, that that's 2131 01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:53,120 Speaker 1: why you signed Hunter Henry, Like, that's that's your guy 2132 01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:55,240 Speaker 1: for that, Johnny. You have to be a little bit 2133 01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:58,280 Speaker 1: more creative with his usage, and this scheme that they 2134 01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:02,719 Speaker 1: are apparently implement should feed right into that. It should 2135 01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:05,400 Speaker 1: get the best out of out of anybody that it 2136 01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:07,599 Speaker 1: should work for it should work for John who the most. 2137 01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:10,639 Speaker 1: I mean, this is exactly what fits his skill set, 2138 01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:13,120 Speaker 1: So you need to see a lot more from him 2139 01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:16,320 Speaker 1: if that's going to be a productive offense. David and 2140 01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:18,880 Speaker 1: Bethlehem wanted to ask a question about the half backs, 2141 01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:20,639 Speaker 1: kind of running through some of the group. We weren't. 2142 01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:22,880 Speaker 1: We weren't really sure what Pierre Strong's issue was. He 2143 01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:25,040 Speaker 1: just seemed limited. He was out there early on, he 2144 01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:27,080 Speaker 1: wasn't getting Yeah, it wasn't. It was out there every 2145 01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:28,800 Speaker 1: day in a full uniform, but didn't seem to get 2146 01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:30,479 Speaker 1: a lot of reps. Today it took some reps. Today 2147 01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:33,240 Speaker 1: was the first day as Kevin Harris made a positive 2148 01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:36,320 Speaker 1: impression most squads shoure have. I mean I think he has. 2149 01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:38,880 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, he's caught the ball pretty well. Um, 2150 01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:41,599 Speaker 1: we did. We talked to him yesterday. Yeah, I tried 2151 01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:44,519 Speaker 1: to get some insight from him. But as typically happens 2152 01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:46,400 Speaker 1: when you talk to rookiees, sont get much. He's a 2153 01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:49,880 Speaker 1: little wide eyed. And then how good is Montgomery and 2154 01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:52,400 Speaker 1: blocking tough tough to tell right now, But I just 2155 01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:54,760 Speaker 1: I just think Montgomery has been every time I feel 2156 01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:57,280 Speaker 1: like I look he's getting a refit running back, he's 2157 01:43:57,320 --> 01:43:59,960 Speaker 1: returning kicks, he's on the kickoff team. I mean, he's 2158 01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:01,880 Speaker 1: another one of those guys that just seems like he's 2159 01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:04,360 Speaker 1: kind of everywhere. And Evin, we were kind of talking 2160 01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:07,320 Speaker 1: about coming from Green Bay, maybe having some experience in 2161 01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:08,800 Speaker 1: these kind of things. Maybe he's a little bit more 2162 01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:10,640 Speaker 1: comfortable with the running, you know, making that read is 2163 01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:13,080 Speaker 1: the running back in this kind of scheme, And you know, 2164 01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:14,840 Speaker 1: I think I just I've noticed a couple where he's 2165 01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:16,920 Speaker 1: gotten the edge and he looks fast, but I think 2166 01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:18,400 Speaker 1: he's going to be involved. Yeah, a lot of the 2167 01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:20,439 Speaker 1: routes that they had him run in New Orleans and 2168 01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:23,400 Speaker 1: in Green Bay have a lot of New England flare 2169 01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:26,000 Speaker 1: to them. There's quite a bit of overlap with Sean 2170 01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:29,280 Speaker 1: Payton and Josh McDaniels playbooks, so there's a lot to 2171 01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:31,160 Speaker 1: be said about that. I think the one thing that 2172 01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:33,599 Speaker 1: stood out to me with Time Montgomery is he's faster 2173 01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:36,080 Speaker 1: than I was expecting. He's got it, maybe a little 2174 01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:39,439 Speaker 1: bit more of an explosive gears than somebody like Brandon Bolden, 2175 01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:42,240 Speaker 1: who obviously they've loved around here for many reasons, But 2176 01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:45,080 Speaker 1: in terms of the way that he moves. He's definitely 2177 01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:48,160 Speaker 1: more dangerous with the football than Bolden ever was, So 2178 01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,919 Speaker 1: maybe they have a slight upgrade in terms of offensive 2179 01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:55,880 Speaker 1: weapon with time Montgomery. I mean, obviously the special team stuff, 2180 01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,000 Speaker 1: they all latted Bolden as one of the best in 2181 01:44:58,080 --> 01:44:59,959 Speaker 1: the league at that so I don't know if Montgomery 2182 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,040 Speaker 1: he is going to match him there. But in terms 2183 01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:05,200 Speaker 1: of catching passes out of the backfield, and you mentioned blocking, 2184 01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:07,599 Speaker 1: I don't think that that's going to be a too 2185 01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:09,599 Speaker 1: big of a problem for him or something that they're 2186 01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:12,040 Speaker 1: going to really I think is a major concern with 2187 01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:14,840 Speaker 1: a veteran like him. Hey too, Yeah, yeah, I don't 2188 01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:18,040 Speaker 1: know why the similarities between what Peyton does and McDaniels. Yeah, 2189 01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:23,960 Speaker 1: well where to Peyton started Sean Payton? Uh under ourselves? 2190 01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:27,240 Speaker 1: Oh oh so it's a it's all the same, it 2191 01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:30,479 Speaker 1: felt connect is that erhard Perskins EP we call it 2192 01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:33,160 Speaker 1: the EP ourselves was in Dallas, I believe when Peyton 2193 01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:36,639 Speaker 1: sort of cut his teeth and that's the same same 2194 01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:39,040 Speaker 1: system that the Patriots have used. Well, it's such a 2195 01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he was kind of one of the first 2196 01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:42,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess maybe Gruden was one of the 2197 01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:45,960 Speaker 1: first young hot shot offensive coordinators, you know the guys. 2198 01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:48,120 Speaker 1: It's just like I remember being aware of his offensive 2199 01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:51,439 Speaker 1: coordinators who were like, oh, this guy's he's an offensive coordinate. 2200 01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:54,759 Speaker 1: Like he's got Brian Billark too, Brian Billark in Detroit. 2201 01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:56,720 Speaker 1: That yeah, I mean, I'm sorry in Minnesota that year 2202 01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:59,200 Speaker 1: where they scored a thousand points and they ended up 2203 01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:01,360 Speaker 1: losing in the Age NFC Championship game. And then he 2204 01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:03,760 Speaker 1: went to Baltimore and ironically won a Super Bowl with 2205 01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:06,800 Speaker 1: no offense whatsoever. Do you think that that's? Uh, I mean, 2206 01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:08,360 Speaker 1: it just seems like such a thing right now that 2207 01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:11,680 Speaker 1: everyone's obsessed with offensive and offensive coordinators and you know, 2208 01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:14,680 Speaker 1: kind of those hot shot I think everybody wants one 2209 01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:17,000 Speaker 1: of the young guys that has a lot of product 2210 01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:20,320 Speaker 1: in his hair and and you know, maybe a well kept, 2211 01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:23,559 Speaker 1: well kept beard in like like a gas fireplace. It's 2212 01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:28,680 Speaker 1: like flours infinity pool. In all serious this though, I 2213 01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:31,920 Speaker 1: don't disagree, But in all serious you mean the look 2214 01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:33,639 Speaker 1: of the guy has nothing to do with it. They might, 2215 01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:39,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's popular the ladies. Things like that. 2216 01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:43,479 Speaker 1: Very yeah, they all look good. They'll look good in 2217 01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:49,040 Speaker 1: the underarm shirts and we got Matt Patricia, God damn, 2218 01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:51,040 Speaker 1: and I not talk about another guy being good luck totally. 2219 01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:53,479 Speaker 1: Can I just think Cliff is kind of like a 2220 01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:59,280 Speaker 1: poor man's Ryan Gosling, absolutely very poor absolutely plus plus 2221 01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:01,040 Speaker 1: all his teams to fade out, so you know, we 2222 01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:03,320 Speaker 1: like winners here. He looks a lot like Ryan Gossling. 2223 01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:05,640 Speaker 1: I agree with that when you have a coach like 2224 01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:09,720 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick because everybody says he can do everything, I 2225 01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:13,439 Speaker 1: have no doubt about that. But he's a defensive minded coach. Right. 2226 01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:16,479 Speaker 1: Defense is his bread and butter. It's the same thing 2227 01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,120 Speaker 1: that Saban runs in with at Alabama, and that is 2228 01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:22,439 Speaker 1: you recycle through offensive coordinators. Right, You're not the guy 2229 01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:24,880 Speaker 1: calling the plays on offense, You're not the guy running 2230 01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:28,040 Speaker 1: the system on offense, so you have to rely on 2231 01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:31,160 Speaker 1: somebody else to do all that. And the Patriots and 2232 01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:34,280 Speaker 1: Belichick got lucky that Josh McDaniels has been here for 2233 01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:37,080 Speaker 1: ten years and was the second time you know, in 2234 01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:40,160 Speaker 1: that spot for such a long period of time, Whereas 2235 01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:42,240 Speaker 1: I think Saban's the best example, even though it's not 2236 01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:44,800 Speaker 1: the NFL. When you look at Saban, he went from 2237 01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:50,200 Speaker 1: Kiffin to Sarkasian to Dable, to Bill O'Brien now, like 2238 01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:53,640 Speaker 1: he's been recycling coordinators every two years, has sort of 2239 01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:55,640 Speaker 1: the rule thumb down there is every two years the 2240 01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:57,960 Speaker 1: coordinator from Alabama's going to get a head coaching job, right, 2241 01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:01,360 Speaker 1: So you have to keep the you know, the line moving, 2242 01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:05,200 Speaker 1: and ideally that's why you have guys that you can 2243 01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:07,800 Speaker 1: promote from within and you develop your own coaches so 2244 01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:11,000 Speaker 1: that it's not like you're continuously going outside of the 2245 01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:15,080 Speaker 1: organization to find guys. But when you look across the NFL, 2246 01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:18,120 Speaker 1: all the guys that are getting head coaching jobs for 2247 01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:21,040 Speaker 1: the most part now are offensive minded. So all the 2248 01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:24,840 Speaker 1: great offensive innovators, all the great offensive play callers are 2249 01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:27,599 Speaker 1: now head coaches, so there's not as many of them 2250 01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:30,200 Speaker 1: available to just to be coordinators. So that's I think 2251 01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:34,719 Speaker 1: something that continues to plague a lot of defensive minded teams. 2252 01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:36,760 Speaker 1: And it's happening in Buffalo right now. We'll see how 2253 01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:39,400 Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey does as the offensive coordinator of the Bills. 2254 01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:42,280 Speaker 1: But Dabele gets hired by the Giants, they lose their 2255 01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:45,360 Speaker 1: oc that developed Josh Allen, like, now, let's see what 2256 01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:47,760 Speaker 1: happens with the next guy. And I think that these 2257 01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:50,479 Speaker 1: defensive minded coaches do have a slight disadvantage in the 2258 01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:54,000 Speaker 1: fact that Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay and all these 2259 01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:58,120 Speaker 1: other coaches have started that trend that everybody wants the 2260 01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:02,280 Speaker 1: offensive guru, say to work with young quarterbacks, and that's 2261 01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:05,200 Speaker 1: just been the way it's gone heavily in the last 2262 01:49:05,240 --> 01:49:07,559 Speaker 1: couple of years. Yeah, and those things are generally cyclical, 2263 01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:11,080 Speaker 1: but everybody wants right now. Yeah, Beeflow popped in the 2264 01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:14,040 Speaker 1: mind just as like a recent defensive hyped guy, and 2265 01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:19,080 Speaker 1: Salo was defensive. You know, I think everybody's looking for 2266 01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:23,080 Speaker 1: the young sort of masterminds, you know that can you know, 2267 01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:27,160 Speaker 1: wow you with his offensive acumen. Kevin O'Connell is another 2268 01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:30,120 Speaker 1: one on that same tree up in Minnesota. Now, yeah, 2269 01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:32,479 Speaker 1: I mean it's all sick, by the way. In full disclosure, 2270 01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:35,599 Speaker 1: I absolutely loved when they drafted him. I loved him 2271 01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:37,479 Speaker 1: coming out of college. Thought he was going to be 2272 01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:41,000 Speaker 1: the next big thing and he sucked could coach though, 2273 01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:44,840 Speaker 1: how soon did you know? And turn couldn't complete? You know, 2274 01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:46,920 Speaker 1: these little passes out to the flat that you know, 2275 01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:49,160 Speaker 1: when we make fun of the offense and saying it's 2276 01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:51,000 Speaker 1: time for a little dump to Damian Harris to get 2277 01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:55,040 Speaker 1: things back on track. He couldn't complete those not consistently. 2278 01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:58,040 Speaker 1: Hopefully he's helping Kirk Cousins. We'll get him, of course, 2279 01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:00,720 Speaker 1: the Patriots we'll see him on on Thanksgiving Night. We'll 2280 01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:03,960 Speaker 1: all be working for that one. Uh, we'll tone it 2281 01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:06,720 Speaker 1: would be a good game. Hey. But like, but it's 2282 01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:08,679 Speaker 1: like every time I talk about games coming up the season, 2283 01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:11,040 Speaker 1: it's like I have like these flashes in my brain 2284 01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:14,240 Speaker 1: of like Justin Jefferson, you know, like like just all 2285 01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:15,880 Speaker 1: the guys that are on all these teams that they 2286 01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:18,680 Speaker 1: have to play, he won't play. I don't know. I 2287 01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:20,160 Speaker 1: don't know. Why is this the first time you ever 2288 01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:24,000 Speaker 1: Calvin Cook him? Him and Falan will both be questionable 2289 01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:26,280 Speaker 1: throughout the weekend, neither one. Literally, I feel like every 2290 01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:29,320 Speaker 1: time the Patriots faced someone last year, like Lucky whoever 2291 01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:31,439 Speaker 1: it was, wasn't playing. Oh sure in the ten games, 2292 01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:35,920 Speaker 1: I mean in the way Titan before. Literally everyone's just 2293 01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:40,720 Speaker 1: randomly hurt the Titans Browns like Evan's mad. It took 2294 01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:43,439 Speaker 1: me two shows get them cook on a little bit. 2295 01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:46,000 Speaker 1: But honestly, it's like kind of happening now. I feel 2296 01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:47,720 Speaker 1: like every time I get on Twitter every day. There's 2297 01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:50,439 Speaker 1: another acl that's storm was there anymore? I know Patrick? 2298 01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:53,280 Speaker 1: And there was another one yesterday, but I can't remember 2299 01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:56,280 Speaker 1: who it was. It does seem like Buffalo dodged a boy. Yeah. 2300 01:50:56,479 --> 01:50:59,360 Speaker 1: Both they're safe with both safeties picked up, but neither 2301 01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:01,320 Speaker 1: looks to be anything that's going to keep them out 2302 01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:03,240 Speaker 1: long term. Yeah, that's a you know, Tamara and I 2303 01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:05,200 Speaker 1: we do. We get the crowd. We whipped them up 2304 01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:07,240 Speaker 1: before training camp to get everybody. And I often think 2305 01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:09,640 Speaker 1: to myself, who would I love to listen to to 2306 01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:14,240 Speaker 1: get me excited about? Comes to mind. It's like two 2307 01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:16,519 Speaker 1: hundred degrees and you guys are sitting on metal bleachers 2308 01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:19,600 Speaker 1: an hour before practice. God bless you all. Uh but 2309 01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:22,360 Speaker 1: they Mike Mike Riley sarch ninety five, you know in 2310 01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:24,640 Speaker 1: stadium host here he uh he just he went off 2311 01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:26,200 Speaker 1: the beaten path. The other day. He's like, so, you 2312 01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:28,200 Speaker 1: know what's been going on at other camps like fill 2313 01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:31,160 Speaker 1: us in And I'm like, injuries, dude, I'm here every day. 2314 01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:33,880 Speaker 1: I am so like up to my eyeballs and patriots 2315 01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:35,240 Speaker 1: like I don't even have a chance that I would 2316 01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:37,519 Speaker 1: have my breath. I would have hit him afterward. Don't 2317 01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:39,639 Speaker 1: ever do that to me again. Guy, would you even say? 2318 01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:41,920 Speaker 1: I was like, well, the Tim Patrick, I'm like, well, 2319 01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:44,080 Speaker 1: there's been some injuries. I don't you know. I mean 2320 01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:46,920 Speaker 1: it's hard. I mean, plus, you know, even if you've 2321 01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:49,680 Speaker 1: been here, like the only thing you know about what 2322 01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:52,200 Speaker 1: you're reading to finish stupid feed, you know, it's like 2323 01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:53,920 Speaker 1: I've been here. I mean, he's you know, he's trying 2324 01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:55,439 Speaker 1: to he's trying to round it out, trying to keep 2325 01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:57,760 Speaker 1: the process going. I was a little bit thrown off 2326 01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:00,840 Speaker 1: to State Lane bro because I get a course, Steve 2327 01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:03,479 Speaker 1: Belchick and Gerrobmeyo playing a little pre practice catch like 2328 01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:06,080 Speaker 1: on the over my shoulder, and I'm like, you know, so, dudes, 2329 01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:08,120 Speaker 1: tell us how bad the offense has been. I'm like, 2330 01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:14,160 Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's been great, especially the linebackers. A right, 2331 01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:16,240 Speaker 1: I mean the offense has actually been great, but I 2332 01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:18,920 Speaker 1: mean the linebackers are just blowing every playoff. I mean 2333 01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:21,960 Speaker 1: they are really really well coached. These guys look like 2334 01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:25,160 Speaker 1: Gerrov Mayo and his prime two thousand and twelve. Yeah. Uh, 2335 01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:27,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's a little the dance we do. And 2336 01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:29,840 Speaker 1: then of course we started today's show and uh and 2337 01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:32,280 Speaker 1: Matt Morrell's waiting for d MAC to record right next door. 2338 01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:33,640 Speaker 1: So I was, like I told Paul, I was like, 2339 01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:35,960 Speaker 1: let's we'll talk about the slipping. We start about the 2340 01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:37,600 Speaker 1: slipping slide off the top, because I don't want d 2341 01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:39,920 Speaker 1: Max like face pressed against the glass, Like what are 2342 01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:44,280 Speaker 1: you saying nothing but good things about the defense so far? 2343 01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:46,679 Speaker 1: I mean that's it's I know, I know you can't 2344 01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:48,840 Speaker 1: really say anything bad about the defense. I also just 2345 01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:50,800 Speaker 1: don't feel like I'm ready to, you know, like I said, 2346 01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:54,400 Speaker 1: to to feel confident that that. I mean, it's hard 2347 01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:57,320 Speaker 1: to faced on the way the season ended last year 2348 01:52:57,439 --> 01:53:00,160 Speaker 1: and what they did personnel wise. It's harder to there 2349 01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:02,040 Speaker 1: and say, well, they're playing great against this offense, so 2350 01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:03,720 Speaker 1: they're going to be great this year. Yeah. And it's 2351 01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:06,080 Speaker 1: also hard to say it because the offense doesn't look great. 2352 01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:08,320 Speaker 1: So it's like, as expected, the defense should look great, 2353 01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:11,000 Speaker 1: considering the offense hasn't found that rhythm. And if the 2354 01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:13,320 Speaker 1: defense didn't look great, what the offense looking like the 2355 01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:16,600 Speaker 1: way it does right now? It's very complicated rubric up 2356 01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:18,599 Speaker 1: in my head. Yeah yeah, and if then they don't 2357 01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:21,120 Speaker 1: look good, then they have to look good. They're really good. 2358 01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:23,479 Speaker 1: We don't know, but I think the thing that that 2359 01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:25,479 Speaker 1: the thing I will say I feel good about though, 2360 01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:29,080 Speaker 1: is just the consistent disruption one on one winning. I mean, 2361 01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:31,840 Speaker 1: these are you know, these are still NFL linemen, and 2362 01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:33,439 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I know one on ones are 2363 01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:35,920 Speaker 1: not real football or anything like that. But I just 2364 01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:38,679 Speaker 1: think when you have athletes and the kind of talent 2365 01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:41,400 Speaker 1: that can win those matchups, it just makes your whole 2366 01:53:41,439 --> 01:53:43,479 Speaker 1: life easier. And then it's really just all right, let's 2367 01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:45,439 Speaker 1: just try to get bar barm On isolated. Let's try 2368 01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:47,400 Speaker 1: to get Jude On isolated on this play. You know, 2369 01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:49,719 Speaker 1: if they can just and and I think he could probably. 2370 01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if everybody caught Evans the tone of 2371 01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:54,960 Speaker 1: his voice about uch like he's great speed rush. I 2372 01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:59,760 Speaker 1: don't because he doesn't need to say so. He doesn't 2373 01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:01,400 Speaker 1: need to be down. You don't need to be hated 2374 01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:04,160 Speaker 1: like me. But it's yeah, it's he's gotta he's gotta 2375 01:54:04,200 --> 01:54:06,000 Speaker 1: be I'll say, I'll say the stuff that needs to 2376 01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:08,240 Speaker 1: be said, like, you know, yeah, you know, if if 2377 01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:10,479 Speaker 1: he's actually blocks, then you can eliminate him from the play. 2378 01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:12,960 Speaker 1: He comes off the ball great, but every single time 2379 01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:15,000 Speaker 1: he does a one on one, he just loads up 2380 01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:17,200 Speaker 1: the speed rush and it's like, if you catch him, 2381 01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:19,000 Speaker 1: you catch him. If you don't, you don't. He has 2382 01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:20,840 Speaker 1: some reps that he looks great. You're like, oh wow, 2383 01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:22,560 Speaker 1: and there was there was two of those. Two of 2384 01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:24,479 Speaker 1: those today he got he got Win. I don't even 2385 01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:25,680 Speaker 1: think Win got a hind. I think you might have 2386 01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:28,160 Speaker 1: gotten Durant on one. Yeah. But then there's other times 2387 01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:31,479 Speaker 1: where the guy, the guy gets the punch right in 2388 01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:34,760 Speaker 1: the chest plate yeah, rep is over. Yeah, And I 2389 01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:37,080 Speaker 1: think that that, I mean that could be something an 2390 01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:39,240 Speaker 1: element of concern. I mean, we've talked about a plenty 2391 01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:42,360 Speaker 1: on this show, a lot of just developing secondary rushers, 2392 01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:44,680 Speaker 1: and I think that's why, like a guy like Lebrian Ray, 2393 01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:47,400 Speaker 1: who's showing some pop in the pass rush, um, you know, 2394 01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:49,120 Speaker 1: even a quality a little bit, I think not so 2395 01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:51,440 Speaker 1: much maybe the last couple of practices, but like it 2396 01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:53,800 Speaker 1: just seems like if this defense got some quickness, Yeah, 2397 01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:55,880 Speaker 1: I think like, you know, those guys they're not like 2398 01:54:56,560 --> 01:55:00,040 Speaker 1: it's obvious when it's guy god Chaw and carlt of 2399 01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:02,000 Speaker 1: us out there and those you know the three big 2400 01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:05,520 Speaker 1: space eat and two gap kind of defensive linemen up there. Um, 2401 01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:08,000 Speaker 1: but the other guys that that have some of that 2402 01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:12,680 Speaker 1: space you're learning at all. We'll put you up on 2403 01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:15,280 Speaker 1: the whiteboard later, a little three breaking down for you. 2404 01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:21,120 Speaker 1: It's these guys you're you're not breaking it down as 2405 01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:26,920 Speaker 1: well as he really doubt. Yeah, but I think you know, 2406 01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:29,360 Speaker 1: getting those guys that that can add a secondary rush. 2407 01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:30,960 Speaker 1: I think that's maybe one of the most critical things 2408 01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:32,640 Speaker 1: of this defense. We talk about the run defense and 2409 01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:34,400 Speaker 1: all that, but like, ultimately the end of the day, 2410 01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:36,800 Speaker 1: if you're not getting after Josh Allen in the backfield 2411 01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:38,880 Speaker 1: and getting him and taking him to the ground, He's 2412 01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:40,800 Speaker 1: gonna make plays and so unique guys that can go 2413 01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:43,040 Speaker 1: get him, you're not gonna beat guys like him, Guys 2414 01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:45,040 Speaker 1: like two in the RPO when you've got a bunch 2415 01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:46,920 Speaker 1: of guys who right off the snap they just stand 2416 01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:48,720 Speaker 1: there and hold their ground and let two kind of 2417 01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:50,520 Speaker 1: sit there and pick the spot. Yeah, you just say 2418 01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:52,680 Speaker 1: that because you saw him on TV behind us? Was 2419 01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:55,000 Speaker 1: he Josh? Now I got Josha on the brain. I 2420 01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:56,920 Speaker 1: know that buffalo. What I was thinking, I didn't know 2421 01:55:57,000 --> 01:55:58,680 Speaker 1: if you watch him, but they just showed like digs 2422 01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:02,280 Speaker 1: just running across er ands. It is like I was like, 2423 01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:04,680 Speaker 1: they can do. That's what he's looking for from Aga. 2424 01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:09,840 Speaker 1: The one guy though that has popped sometimes in the 2425 01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:12,200 Speaker 1: pass rush that he had one rep in one on 2426 01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:14,360 Speaker 1: ones I think it was on the second padded practice 2427 01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:16,400 Speaker 1: and they haven't let him rep one on ones again. 2428 01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:20,280 Speaker 1: But mac Wilson has looked pretty good coming downhill, whether 2429 01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:23,280 Speaker 1: it's an interior blitzer coming off the edge. I've liked 2430 01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:25,160 Speaker 1: what I've seen from him so far in terms of 2431 01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:27,920 Speaker 1: the speed of that position. He's a really really good athlete, 2432 01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:31,520 Speaker 1: all around great athlete. And so it was Rayqua McMillan. 2433 01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:33,440 Speaker 1: So maybe they can get some of that pressure from 2434 01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:35,000 Speaker 1: the second level a little bit more than they did 2435 01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:36,960 Speaker 1: last year. You know who they're gonna use in that regard, 2436 01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:39,520 Speaker 1: And I think that he has been a quietly effective blitzer, 2437 01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:42,120 Speaker 1: and I don't really like him in his traditional thumper 2438 01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:44,600 Speaker 1: role as Bentley. Bentley, Yeah, every time they seem like 2439 01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:47,080 Speaker 1: they have a stunt involving him, he gets there. Yeah. 2440 01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:49,360 Speaker 1: You know sometimes you see like you dial up a 2441 01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:51,600 Speaker 1: perfect blitz and it's there and the guy and he 2442 01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:54,000 Speaker 1: either runs by the quarterback or he you know, takes 2443 01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:56,560 Speaker 1: a bad angle, misses the tackle, and all of a 2444 01:56:56,600 --> 01:56:59,640 Speaker 1: sudden you're in jeopardy because this defense was designed to 2445 01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:01,600 Speaker 1: get him immediate pressure and you got it and you 2446 01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:03,760 Speaker 1: didn't stop the play. Yeah, well, this is a good question. 2447 01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and I think we flirted with it. 2448 01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:07,200 Speaker 1: I rather think we could say that we've seen Bentley 2449 01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:08,320 Speaker 1: on the edge a little bit. I don't think that 2450 01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:10,880 Speaker 1: that's that crazy, But I mean, are we looking at 2451 01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:13,880 Speaker 1: maybe maybe a jump forward for Bentley in terms of 2452 01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:16,800 Speaker 1: just expanding his role, not quite just being that kind 2453 01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:19,200 Speaker 1: of standard. Like Paul said Thumper Mill of linebacker in 2454 01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:21,600 Speaker 1: the middle, I actually love the idea of putting him 2455 01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:23,800 Speaker 1: more on the line of scrimmage, just because it gets 2456 01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:25,680 Speaker 1: him out of those foot races over the middle of 2457 01:57:25,680 --> 01:57:28,840 Speaker 1: the field and coverage come back and you can get 2458 01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:32,640 Speaker 1: guys Ray Kua. McMillan's a low four six forty guy 2459 01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:34,800 Speaker 1: at two hundred and forty pounds. He can run right. 2460 01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:38,960 Speaker 1: You know, Mac Wilson, great all around athlete, played basketball, 2461 01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:41,200 Speaker 1: played football. You know, he's he's a five star guy 2462 01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:43,320 Speaker 1: at both sports and coming out of high school. So 2463 01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:46,080 Speaker 1: I think that you have some two guys there that 2464 01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:48,040 Speaker 1: are much better athletes, and then you start to incorporate 2465 01:57:48,120 --> 01:57:50,320 Speaker 1: some of the safeties obviously as well, you know, Phillips, Dugger, 2466 01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:53,160 Speaker 1: maybe Josh Bledsoe, and all of a sudden, your second 2467 01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:55,960 Speaker 1: level is a lot more dynamic. And Bentley, the one 2468 01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:58,600 Speaker 1: thing that he does really, really well is take on 2469 01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:00,920 Speaker 1: guys and put shoulders in to people, and that if 2470 01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:03,200 Speaker 1: you're just asking him to set the edge, I mean, 2471 01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:05,320 Speaker 1: that's really all that he's got to do. So I 2472 01:58:05,480 --> 01:58:09,000 Speaker 1: really liked the idea of him going out there, him 2473 01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:12,560 Speaker 1: being sort of that sturdy, early down edge setting type 2474 01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:14,920 Speaker 1: of presents. Let Jude on to off and do his 2475 01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:17,600 Speaker 1: thing on the backside, and maybe you can get a 2476 01:58:17,720 --> 01:58:19,840 Speaker 1: little bit better and more dynamic at the second level. 2477 01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:22,160 Speaker 1: Do you have every guy on the roster's forty time memorized? 2478 01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:27,080 Speaker 1: Is that not every guy? A lot a lot? So 2479 01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:30,000 Speaker 1: four four four seven so much more positive than me. 2480 01:58:30,160 --> 01:58:32,520 Speaker 1: When he said that ray Qua mc millan runs a 2481 01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:41,280 Speaker 1: four six, my immediately thought, plus, yeah, before we tightened 2482 01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:45,120 Speaker 1: like that tightened, I to Ben that was actually the 2483 01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:49,520 Speaker 1: first thing. But to be fair, a lot of people 2484 01:58:49,600 --> 01:58:52,040 Speaker 1: are saying the Patriots don't have enough speed, they don't 2485 01:58:52,040 --> 01:58:55,920 Speaker 1: have enough improved they improved. That's one thing that has 2486 01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:59,400 Speaker 1: really popped out. And these practices, they're much faster than 2487 01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:02,960 Speaker 1: the football. They've improved team speed at on both sides 2488 01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:04,400 Speaker 1: of the ball, and I don't think there's an argument 2489 01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:06,080 Speaker 1: to be made against that. I think my only question 2490 01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:07,920 Speaker 1: with mac Wilson is just how involved can he get 2491 01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:09,400 Speaker 1: because I think we've still seen him kind of on 2492 01:59:09,480 --> 01:59:11,560 Speaker 1: the right field. I think more of us. I think 2493 01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:13,640 Speaker 1: he's more of a sub guy. Yeah, I think he's 2494 01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:17,120 Speaker 1: the guy though, and yeah, yeah, but see it when 2495 01:59:17,200 --> 01:59:22,080 Speaker 1: when you're talking about McMillan and mac wilson as opposed 2496 01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:24,480 Speaker 1: to High Tower in Van Noy. And I'm not saying 2497 01:59:24,520 --> 01:59:28,920 Speaker 1: that High Tower they were both solid, solid players. High 2498 01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:32,880 Speaker 1: Tower was at times great, but they couldn't run like 2499 01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:36,280 Speaker 1: these guys. Yeah, they couldn't, I mean especially last year, 2500 01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:38,240 Speaker 1: you know, at the tail end of their career. So 2501 01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:43,200 Speaker 1: there's no there's no argument against the added speed. Well, 2502 01:59:43,360 --> 01:59:45,720 Speaker 1: I think our time is about up two hours a 2503 01:59:46,360 --> 01:59:48,680 Speaker 1: rifle and through it all again. Layout the schedule for 2504 01:59:48,760 --> 01:59:51,160 Speaker 1: you guys who got tomorrow night in stadium practice, Probably 2505 01:59:51,200 --> 01:59:52,840 Speaker 1: not too much going on, but well we'll be there 2506 01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:55,680 Speaker 1: just in case, and we will record a quick little 2507 01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:59,120 Speaker 1: recap afterwards in case anything big happens. Otherwise, we'll be 2508 01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:02,080 Speaker 1: back at practice day and back at practice Tuesday, and 2509 02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:04,600 Speaker 1: we'll be back on PU on Tuesday twelve to two. 2510 02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:09,840 Speaker 1: So until then, we will see you next Tuesday. 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