WEBVTT - The Murder Years S2: Ep. 7, Who Will Save Your Soul

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<v Speaker 1>The following podcast contains explicit descriptions of violence, including sexual violence,

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<v Speaker 1>that some listeners may find upsetting. Continue at your own risk.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in August nineteen ninety six, writing between the

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<v Speaker 1>bombing of Centennial Park during the Atlanta Olympics in July

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<v Speaker 1>and the September shooting of Tupac Shakur in Las Vegas,

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<v Speaker 1>when Connord Langford went on trial for murder. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Courtney Barnes, and I'm an author and a journalist

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<v Speaker 1>who was living in Domino Beach, California during the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>nineties when a serial killer was preying on our quiet

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<v Speaker 1>little beach communities, residents and visitors. In September nineteen ninety two,

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote the very first article about the killer's very

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<v Speaker 1>first victim, nineteen year old Via Kendrick, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>was my very first professionally published article. Lots of firsts there.

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<v Speaker 1>A little over two years later, in November of nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety I interviewed and wrote the story of Angela Bowers,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as we know, the first and only person

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<v Speaker 1>to ever escape from the killer with her life. Not

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<v Speaker 1>long after that, I received two letters from someone claiming

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<v Speaker 1>to be the killer and In both he threatened to

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<v Speaker 1>turn me into one of his victims, and in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety six, Connor Langford went on trial charged with the

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<v Speaker 1>murders of Vera Kendrick, twenty eight year old singer songwriter

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<v Speaker 1>Trudy Masterson, and eighteen year old Juan Costas, three of

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<v Speaker 1>the seven people who had been murdered in Domino Beach

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<v Speaker 1>over the past four years. It seemed that finally, finally,

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<v Speaker 1>our year's long nightmare was coming to an end. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the Murder Years, Episode seven. Who will Save your soul?

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<v Speaker 2>So you want to talk about the trial? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>That's Connor Langford, the man now known as the Domino Beachkiller.

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<v Speaker 1>In August nineteen ninety six, Connor was twenty eight years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a few short years earlier, he had been Domino

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<v Speaker 1>Beach's favorite son, a handsome, laid back surfer and musician,

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<v Speaker 1>son to the rich and powerful city councilman Greg Langford.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone in town loved him, but by the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety six, his Golden Boys status had decidedly tarnished.

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<v Speaker 1>He had become a washed up drug addict who was

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in jail charged with three murders and suspected of

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<v Speaker 1>four others, as well as the attempted kidnapping of Angela Bowers.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the point. The trial was a goddamn farce.

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<v Speaker 3>I was pretty much convicted before I even set foot

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<v Speaker 3>in the courtroom.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't think you got a fair trial.

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<v Speaker 3>How could it have been fair? I'm here rotting in

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<v Speaker 3>prison for some shit I didn't do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been twenty eight years since Connor Langford was sentenced.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been in prison for half his life. Let's back

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<v Speaker 1>up a bit and talk about how he got there.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's retired Delsoul County Sheriff Damon Stokes.

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<v Speaker 2>As I remember, it went down more or less like this.

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<v Speaker 5>California Highway Patrol located the van belonging to Connor Langford

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<v Speaker 5>just off the Pacific Coast Highway, roughly one hundred and

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<v Speaker 5>fifty miles north of Domino Beach. This is about thirty

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<v Speaker 5>hours after the body of Trudy Masterson was seen by

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<v Speaker 5>Henrietta Jones. The homeless woman being pulled out of the

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<v Speaker 5>van by an adult white male. Some of Trudy's hair

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<v Speaker 5>and blood were found in the back of the vehicle,

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<v Speaker 5>and Henrietta confirmed that the van they found was indeed

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<v Speaker 5>the van she saw the night in question.

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<v Speaker 1>What about Langford? Was she able to identify him?

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<v Speaker 4>She was not.

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<v Speaker 5>It was dark, he was wearing a hooded sweatshirt or

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<v Speaker 5>something similar, and she really only saw him from the back,

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<v Speaker 5>but she did see the way he lifted Trudy's body

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<v Speaker 5>out of the van and said that, you know, he

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<v Speaker 5>moved like someone who was very fit, reasonably young.

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<v Speaker 2>The fuck does that even mean?

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<v Speaker 3>How the hell would some ancient homeless woman even though

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<v Speaker 3>how someone who was very fit and reasonably young move Besides,

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<v Speaker 3>I was far from what you'd call fit, and I

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<v Speaker 3>arguably wasn't reasonably young either.

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<v Speaker 4>Connor, you were twenty eight, and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Always looked on heroin, I looked and moved like I

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<v Speaker 3>was older than I am now, for Christ's sake.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I remember. That was part of your lawyer's argument that.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy was a goddamn moron.

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<v Speaker 6>My fucking father hired him, should have taken the public defender.

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<v Speaker 5>At that point, we had no choice but to arrest Connor,

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<v Speaker 5>and I went to his father first before I did anything,

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<v Speaker 5>really any public statement.

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<v Speaker 1>And how did that go? Better than I thought it would?

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, he made a stink, but it felt pretty obligatory

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<v Speaker 5>to me, like he was just going through the motions

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<v Speaker 5>on it. Remember, Connor had been making the councilman's life

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<v Speaker 5>hell for at least the past six or seven months,

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<v Speaker 5>probably going back.

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<v Speaker 2>Even before that.

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<v Speaker 5>I think on some level the councilman was happy to

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<v Speaker 5>have his son quieted down and out of the way,

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<v Speaker 5>which I know sounds crazy, But.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think the councilman thought Connor was guilty?

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<v Speaker 7>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, I have kids of my own, and it would

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<v Speaker 5>be pretty hard to believe them capable of such terrible

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<v Speaker 5>things unless I saw it with my own eyes, and

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<v Speaker 5>maybe not even then. Greg and Connor Langford, they had

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<v Speaker 5>their differences, I mean, lord knows, but as long as

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<v Speaker 5>Connor maintained his innocence, his father did the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad knew I wasn't guilty. I mean, he wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>my biggest van, but he knew I wasn't a killer.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what, with all the influence he had

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<v Speaker 3>in that town, all the times he'd gotten the cops

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<v Speaker 3>or the press or whoever to do whatever the fuck

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<v Speaker 3>he wanted, he could have gotten the sheriff to release

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<v Speaker 3>me into his custody while I waited for my trial.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he could have, but he didn't let me

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<v Speaker 3>sit in a goddamn jail cell for months, fucking months.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, are you sure about that? That your father could

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<v Speaker 4>have had you released? The evidence against you was pretty damning,

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 6>Your van was stolen?

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<v Speaker 2>You know this.

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<v Speaker 6>It had been missing for like, I don't know, two

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<v Speaker 6>weeks three.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet you never reported it stolen.

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<v Speaker 3>You're talking about a time when I was so messed

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<v Speaker 3>up on drugs I barely even knew what day it was.

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<v Speaker 3>And I sure as hell wasn't trying to invite the

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<v Speaker 3>cops into my life. I mean, I did illegal drugs

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<v Speaker 3>every day, multiple times every day. Why would I ask

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<v Speaker 3>the cops to come sniffing around. Besides, it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 3>that van was my primary mode transportation. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>used it a lot when Brodie and I were still playing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to houl my guitar and Brodie's drum kid

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<v Speaker 3>back and forth from gigs, and I carried our surfboards

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<v Speaker 3>in it when we go to the beach. Ben I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't playing music or surfing by fall of ninety five,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I get it. Those are the true things

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<v Speaker 3>I was known for. But at that time, the only

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<v Speaker 3>thing I cared about was scoring drugs. I couldn't have

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<v Speaker 3>given two shits about that van.

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<v Speaker 4>But you understand how it looked, right, Your van was

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<v Speaker 4>used to commit a murder, and your excuse is that

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<v Speaker 4>you forgot to report it stolen.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't forget. I just didn't care.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyone who knew me back then would tell you, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't give a fuck about anything.

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<v Speaker 8>No, that's not true at all. He cared about a

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<v Speaker 8>lot even then.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Maya Morales Connor Langford's former girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, yeah, he was going through a rough time

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<v Speaker 8>even before he was accused of murder. But I know

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<v Speaker 8>he cared about me one thing. No matter what he

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<v Speaker 8>and I have been through, no matter what he did

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<v Speaker 8>to me, or why we broke up or anything, We've

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<v Speaker 8>never stopped caring for each other.

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<v Speaker 6>Never.

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<v Speaker 8>No, Connor cared, not about that van, but not about

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<v Speaker 8>nothing either.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember his excuse about the van. It was awfully convenient.

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<v Speaker 5>But even if anyone believed him, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>anybody did. I mean, not the judge, the jury, not me,

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<v Speaker 5>not you. Right, Am I wrong about that?

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<v Speaker 1>No? You're not wrong. I didn't believe him either.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, it wasn't like that was the only

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<v Speaker 5>evidence we had against him.

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<v Speaker 1>The trial took place at the Del Soul County Courthouse,

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<v Speaker 1>about five miles inland from downtown Domino Beach, right next

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<v Speaker 1>door to city Hall, where Connor's father, the councilman, had

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<v Speaker 1>an office. It lasted five days. The prosecution began by

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on Vera Kendrick Garrick.

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<v Speaker 8>Hendrick was a pretty lovable free spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>The Domino Beach Killer's first victim back in September nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety two. She was painted as a fun, pretty lovable

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<v Speaker 1>free spirit, which she was, and it was refreshing to

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<v Speaker 1>hear her spoken about in that way instead of as

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<v Speaker 1>a homeless hippie who probably had it coming due to

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<v Speaker 1>her unconventional lifestyle. As counselman, Langford preferred, the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Connor had had a sexual relationship with her and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Connor found her body was called too coincidental

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<v Speaker 1>to be coincidence.

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<v Speaker 8>Connor having a sexual relationship with Vera and finding her

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<v Speaker 8>body is just too coincidental to be coincidence.

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<v Speaker 1>And you could tell the jury agreed even that early

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<v Speaker 1>on in the trial. It seemed Connor's defense attorney had

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<v Speaker 1>his work cut out for him. Although there wasn't enough

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<v Speaker 1>evidence to charge him with the murders of the three

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<v Speaker 1>asust udents from April of nineteen ninety four, the prosecution

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<v Speaker 1>did manage to get a witness to testify that Connor

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<v Speaker 1>was partying at the girl's house the night they were murdered.

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<v Speaker 4>I did see Connor Langford at the party that night.

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<v Speaker 1>This was met with an objection by the defense and

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<v Speaker 1>an admonishment by the judge. But the jury heard what

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<v Speaker 1>they heard, and to be honest, by that point, I

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<v Speaker 1>think they already decided he was the killer, and not

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<v Speaker 1>just the killer of the victims he was charged with

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<v Speaker 1>the jury and probably anyone else following the trial, believed

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<v Speaker 1>he was the killer of all seven victims, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were just waiting for the opportunity to go back into

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<v Speaker 1>that little room, address the formality of deliberations, and then

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<v Speaker 1>come back and deliver a guilty verdict. Connor's lawyer tried

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<v Speaker 1>to get the judge to declare a mistrial, but the

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<v Speaker 1>motion was denied and it would later be considered not

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<v Speaker 1>strong enough grounds to warrant an appeal.

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<v Speaker 2>That was when I knew for sure the deck was

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<v Speaker 2>stacked against me.

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<v Speaker 3>Anytime I called the jury looking at me, I felt

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<v Speaker 3>like I was something they scraped off their shoes, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. I hadn't give it up, I hope yet.

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<v Speaker 1>But the prosecution was a little more elegant when they

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<v Speaker 1>tried to tie the murder of Billy Boy Reeves to Connor,

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<v Speaker 1>mainly by focusing on his drug problem. They managed to

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<v Speaker 1>get Connor's dealer to take the stand in exchange, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>for all sorts of immunity. During the dealer's let's call

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<v Speaker 1>it colorful testimony.

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<v Speaker 6>He sold all sorts of drugs to Connor.

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<v Speaker 1>The prosecutor asked him if he had ever seen Connor

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<v Speaker 1>and Billy boyd together. It was very slick and definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a dirty trick, and the judge was quick to shut

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<v Speaker 1>it down before the witness could answer.

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<v Speaker 2>And how the fuck was that guy?

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<v Speaker 3>A credible source of information Oliver had was skunk weed

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<v Speaker 3>and heroin that had been stepped on so many times

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<v Speaker 3>you had a double or triple dose to get off.

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<v Speaker 2>They had enough on him to put him away for years.

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<v Speaker 6>He would have said anything they wanted him to say.

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<v Speaker 1>They went pretty hard trying to pin the murder of

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<v Speaker 1>Juan Costas on Connor, but that was the weakest of

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<v Speaker 1>the charges he was facing. The prosecution's theory was that

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<v Speaker 1>Connor murdered one in a misguided effort to get his

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<v Speaker 1>ex girlfriend, Maya Morales to come back to him.

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<v Speaker 8>It was just so stupid. If Connor really wanted to

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<v Speaker 8>be with me, there are a million ways he could

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<v Speaker 8>have gone about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Maya had been something of a surrogate sister to Juan,

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<v Speaker 1>the prosecutor argued, Connor knew his death would upset her

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<v Speaker 1>enough that in her grief he might somehow find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to weasel himself back into her good graces.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, he did try to contact me after Hauan's

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<v Speaker 8>body was found, but I didn't return its calls, and

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<v Speaker 8>then after a couple of days he stopped calling. Don't

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<v Speaker 8>you think that's a lot of trouble to go through

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<v Speaker 8>to just give up like that.

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<v Speaker 1>This theory pretty much fell apart when the defense started

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<v Speaker 1>calling witnesses. Maya was one of the first witnesses called,

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<v Speaker 1>and in spite of the fact that she and Connor

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<v Speaker 1>had been broken up for a year and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>she was adamant that she didn't believe he killed one

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<v Speaker 1>or anyone else.

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<v Speaker 8>In some ways, I still loved him. In some ways

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<v Speaker 8>I still do even now.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever regret breaking up with him or not

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<v Speaker 1>giving him a second chance?

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<v Speaker 8>I had given him a second chance, third orth and

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<v Speaker 8>fifth two. It wasn't my cheating on me with that

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<v Speaker 8>girl was the first thing he'd ever done wrong. It

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<v Speaker 8>was the last, and I deserved better. But even so,

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<v Speaker 8>if he really wanted to be back with me again,

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<v Speaker 8>I think he probably could have convinced me to come back.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think he wanted to be with you anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>I think.

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<v Speaker 8>I think by the time that happened, by the time

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<v Speaker 8>I caught him without wanna be groupie, he was, he

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<v Speaker 8>was already lost. And I think he knew. He knew

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<v Speaker 8>if he and I were together. He just dragged me down.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not saying it was like a deliberate choice if

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<v Speaker 8>he made or anything, but I think on some level

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<v Speaker 8>he was trying to set me free. He was giving

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<v Speaker 8>me the reason I needed to cut him loose forever,

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<v Speaker 8>because he knew he wasn't good for me. He released me,

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<v Speaker 8>He let me go.

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<v Speaker 1>Since the one cost discharge was falling flat in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the jury. The prosecutor moved on to the strongest

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<v Speaker 1>case they had, with the rape and murder of Trudy Masterson.

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<v Speaker 1>The prosecutor discussed how Connor worked as a bar back

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<v Speaker 1>at Triple B's, the bar where Trudy played her final gig.

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<v Speaker 1>He was one of the last people to see her alive,

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<v Speaker 1>and he left the bar minutes after she did. A

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<v Speaker 1>theory was presented about how Connor caught up with Trudy

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<v Speaker 1>and offered to walk her back to her motel, and

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<v Speaker 1>on the way suggested they go to the beach to

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<v Speaker 1>have a beer and maybe smoke a joint. They got

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<v Speaker 1>to his van, he slipped to a roofee then raped

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<v Speaker 1>and strangled her. Henrietta Jones identified Connor's van in her testimony,

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<v Speaker 1>and although she admitted she couldn't say for sure Connor

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<v Speaker 1>was the man she saw that night, at that point

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't really matter. The prosecution was presenting a strong case,

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<v Speaker 1>but so far it probably wouldn't have been strong enough

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<v Speaker 1>to convict him. That's where I came in.

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<v Speaker 5>The letters The killer sent you with the strongest evidence

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<v Speaker 5>we had, stronger than his van. Even maybe if Henrietta

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<v Speaker 5>had been able to id him, I mean that would

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<v Speaker 5>have been enough. But those letters, he might as well

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<v Speaker 5>have signed his name to the murders. I mean, without them,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think we ever could have put him away.

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<v Speaker 1>So the reason I wasn't given the assignment of covering

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<v Speaker 1>Connor Langford's trial for the so Cal Journal wasn't because

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<v Speaker 1>of my issues with Connor's father, the Councilman. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>those issues were many. No, the reason I wasn't given

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<v Speaker 1>the trial is because I was a witness for the

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<v Speaker 1>prosecution because of those letters and what was in them.

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<v Speaker 1>When I got up on the witness stand, I had

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<v Speaker 1>to testify about my entire history researching and writing about

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<v Speaker 1>the Domino Killer, beginning with my very first assignment covering

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<v Speaker 1>the murder of Vera Hendrick. I talked about the lyrics

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<v Speaker 1>from the Nirvana song Polly that were found at the

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<v Speaker 1>crime scene and the fact that the song is sung

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<v Speaker 1>from the point of view of a rapist. And because

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<v Speaker 1>the author of those letters referred to the two songs

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<v Speaker 1>associated with Billy Boy Reeves and the ASU students, Pretend

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<v Speaker 1>We're Dead and Cornflake Girl, I talked about them too.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about the murder of Jan Costas, which I

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<v Speaker 1>had covered for the paper and happened right before I

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<v Speaker 1>got the killer's second letter, the one that quoted a

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<v Speaker 1>lyric from Soundgarden's Black Hole Sun, and I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>Connor singing a cover of that song a few weeks later.

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<v Speaker 1>The defense tried to clean that up, bringing in a

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<v Speaker 1>member of the cover band. Connor briefly fronted Or, who

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<v Speaker 1>said they'd been working on Black Hole Sun for weeks

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<v Speaker 1>and it was far from the first time they'd played

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<v Speaker 1>it in public. It was a popular song, after all,

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<v Speaker 1>but it didn't seem to help. It was another piece

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<v Speaker 1>of Connor's everything is a coincidence defense that was clearly

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<v Speaker 1>not resonating with the jury. Before I left the witness stand,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about how the author of those letters wrote

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<v Speaker 1>about how much he wanted to rape and kill me,

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<v Speaker 1>and although I didn't like admitting it, I was under oath,

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<v Speaker 1>so I had to. I had to admit how much

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<v Speaker 1>that scared me. I know that's something I haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>completely honest about during this whole thing. When I look

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<v Speaker 1>back at this time in my life, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just a kid. I was twenty five years old,

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<v Speaker 1>when I testified at Connor Langford's trial, twenty five, barely

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<v Speaker 1>old enough to rent a car, and there I am

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<v Speaker 1>being asked to help a jury decide the fate of

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<v Speaker 1>a guy just a few years older than me, a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who once upon a time I had a massive

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<v Speaker 1>crush on. But that wasn't even the hardest part. I

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<v Speaker 1>had been threatened. Someone had expressed their desire to rape

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<v Speaker 1>and murder me, someone who had already raped and murdered

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<v Speaker 1>other women. I was terrified, but I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>had to pretend I wasn't. I had to pretend it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't FaZe me. Why Why did I feel that way?

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<v Speaker 1>I was too scared to let it show how scared

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<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 4>A few years.

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<v Speaker 1>Later, when I was promoting my book and making the

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<v Speaker 1>rounds on all the talk shows, I was asked over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again, weren't you scared? And I would say

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<v Speaker 1>something along the lines of I was too focused to

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<v Speaker 1>be scared, or the fact that I was covering all

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<v Speaker 1>these stories gave me distance. All I wanted to say was,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, I was fucking scared. A serial killer had

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<v Speaker 1>targeted me. It was over a year between when I

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<v Speaker 1>received that first letter and when Connor was a rest

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<v Speaker 1>one year. One year feeling like I could be attacked

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<v Speaker 1>any second of any day. One year sleeping with the

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<v Speaker 1>lights on in a baseball bat under my bed, as

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<v Speaker 1>if that would have done me any good. One year

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<v Speaker 1>without going on so much as a date with a guy,

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<v Speaker 1>because there was always that chance that I was wrong

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<v Speaker 1>about Connor, and any guy allowed myself to be alone

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<v Speaker 1>with just might end my life. So was I scared, Yes, very,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I just I needed to get that off

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<v Speaker 1>my chest. It's been weighing me down for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, So after I left the stand, I learned

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<v Speaker 1>that my testimony, as hard and painful as it was,

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<v Speaker 1>was just setting the stage.

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<v Speaker 5>So the faulty watermark.

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<v Speaker 1>You may remember from previous episodes that there was a

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<v Speaker 1>unique watermark on the paper the killer's letters were written on.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a misspelling of the paper company's name, and

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<v Speaker 1>as a result, most of it was recalled. There were

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<v Speaker 1>not that many reams of that paper that had made

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<v Speaker 1>it into circulation.

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<v Speaker 8>So after your testimony, the prosecution introduced a new piece

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<v Speaker 8>of evidence of the court. It was a flyer I

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<v Speaker 8>had made for Connor's band, slapping bones back in like

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<v Speaker 8>early summer in nineteen ninety four, and it had the

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<v Speaker 8>same watermark that was on your letters.

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<v Speaker 1>As it turned out. Back in happier times, when Connor

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<v Speaker 1>and his friend Brody were in a band together and

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<v Speaker 1>he and Maya were still dating, Maya would design flyers

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<v Speaker 1>promoting the band's gigs and post them around town or

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<v Speaker 1>pass them out at the record shop where she worked.

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<v Speaker 8>I one of the greatest artists in the world, but

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<v Speaker 8>I wasn't body either. Sometimes I'd hang out while they practiced,

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<v Speaker 8>and to be hot it with you, it could get

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<v Speaker 8>a little boring, So I killed the time by drawing pictures,

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<v Speaker 8>and sometimes I turned those drawings into flyers for the bands.

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<v Speaker 8>I remember buying that paper too, because it was half price.

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<v Speaker 8>It was at this little office supply store just passed downtown.

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<v Speaker 8>I got I don't know, four or five reams. Maybe

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<v Speaker 8>it was a really good deal. I didn't care that

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<v Speaker 8>it was copy paper, not you know, proper sketching paper

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<v Speaker 8>or whatever. And I didn't know a thing about watermarks

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<v Speaker 8>back then.

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<v Speaker 1>So this paper you bought, where did you keep it?

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<v Speaker 8>At the band's rehearsal space, it was a warehouse heading

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<v Speaker 8>out towards Riverside where you could rent a little room.

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<v Speaker 8>It wasn't exactly sound proof, but it was good enough.

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<v Speaker 8>I guess there were maybe three or four bands practicing

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<v Speaker 8>on the property at any moment. And there was this

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<v Speaker 8>copy machine in the office there and they didn't mind

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<v Speaker 8>you using it, but you had to bring your own.

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<v Speaker 1>Paper, so Connor had access to it.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean, it's just paper. It wasn't like it

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<v Speaker 8>was locked up or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And even with that evidence, even with that same watermark

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<v Speaker 1>that was on your flyers and the letters that the

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<v Speaker 1>killer sent me, you never thought it was Connor.

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<v Speaker 8>No, And I still don't.

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<v Speaker 6>Look.

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<v Speaker 8>I know it looked bad. Okay, I'm not stupid and

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not naive, and I just I do not believe

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<v Speaker 8>for one second that Connor had it in him to

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<v Speaker 8>kill anyone. Yeah, he could get angry and yees, he

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<v Speaker 8>was messed up on drugs for a little while, but

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<v Speaker 8>he was He is a gentle person. He is not

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<v Speaker 8>a killer.

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<v Speaker 1>The jury disagreed and Connor was found guilty for the

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<v Speaker 1>murders of Vera Hendrick and Trudy Masterson after just four

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<v Speaker 1>hours of deliberations.

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<v Speaker 8>Connor Langford guilty for the murders of Vera Kendrick and

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<v Speaker 8>Truty Masters.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't tried for the murders of Billy boy Rieves

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<v Speaker 1>or the three ASU students, but the Court of Public

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<v Speaker 1>Opinions certainly found him guilty. The same thing went for

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<v Speaker 1>Juan Costas, even though the state failed to prove its

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<v Speaker 1>case there and he received a reluctant not guilty verdict

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<v Speaker 1>from the jury.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, we felt like justice had been served. I closed

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<v Speaker 5>all the cases from Vera Kendrick to Trudy Masterson, and

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<v Speaker 5>I felt good about doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Likely because of Councilman Langford's urging the state was not

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<v Speaker 1>seeking the death penalty. But practically all of Domino Beach

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<v Speaker 1>and every member of the press in southern California showed

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<v Speaker 1>up on the day the judge was going to hand

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<v Speaker 1>down his sentence.

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<v Speaker 3>So before sentencing, they brought me into this little room

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<v Speaker 3>on the side of the courthouse, and I could.

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<v Speaker 2>Hear all the people outside. Sounded like a party. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing I remember is hearing this woman playing guitar

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<v Speaker 2>and singing.

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<v Speaker 3>I found out later it was a friend of a

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<v Speaker 3>friend of Trudy Masterson's. Anyway, she was out there singing

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<v Speaker 3>that song by Jewel, and I realize I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 3>singing along under my breath, and then she goes into

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<v Speaker 3>the chorus where she says.

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<v Speaker 6>Like, who is save your soul?

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of laughed at myself and thought, no one,

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<v Speaker 3>No one's going to save my soul if I even

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<v Speaker 3>had one left to save.

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<v Speaker 1>Minutes later, Connor was sentenced to two consecutive life sentences

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<v Speaker 1>without the possibility of rule.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've been here ever since.

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<v Speaker 4>So, for the record, do you still.

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<v Speaker 3>Maintain my innocence one hundred percent? If you're serious about

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<v Speaker 3>re examining this whole thing, and if you really think

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<v Speaker 3>there's even the slightest chance I might be innocent, please

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<v Speaker 3>do something, because I've already done everything I can.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to hear that. I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 1>think Connor might be innocent. All I do know is

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<v Speaker 1>that something happened very recently that inspired me to do

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast and revisit this time in my life. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so here it is. I received a third letter from

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<v Speaker 1>someone claiming to be the Domino Beach Killer, and it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds exactly like the person who wrote the first two

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<v Speaker 1>nearly thirty years ago.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe my did court me, We're not done after all.

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<v Speaker 1>The Murder Years is a production of AYR Media and iHeartMedia.

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<v Speaker 1>Executive producer Elisa Rosen for AYR Media. Written by Tim Huddleston,

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<v Speaker 1>directed by Alisa Rosen, Editing and sound designed by Tristan Bankston,

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<v Speaker 1>Consulting producer Jean Chandil coordinator Olive Goldberg. Audio engineering and

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<v Speaker 1>mastering by Justin Longerbeing studio engineer Josh Hook. Original concept

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<v Speaker 1>developed in partnership with Anne Margaret Johns and Greg Spring,

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<v Speaker 1>Executive producer for iHeartMedia. Maya Howard. Performances for this episode

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<v Speaker 1>by Erica Leniac as Courtney Barnes, Tom Virtue as Sheriff,

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<v Speaker 1>Damon Stokes, Alex Salem as Connor Langford, Melon Faxus as

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<v Speaker 1>Maya Morales