1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: It is Monday, December five. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours brought to you by Jet Home Loans 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: and now a guy who gets most of his culture 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: from Yogurt Jay Peace Chadra, welcome in. It is Jaguars 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Happy Hour. It is Monday. It is a busy two 6 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: hours ahead as we recap an awful loss in Detroit 7 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: yesterday to fourteen. The final score will hear from Tony 8 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: Boselli and Pete Frisco coming up shortly. The Jaguars defense 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: did not get off the field at all in the game. 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: No punts from the Lions, eight scoring drives and a 11 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: kneel down for Detroit. The Jaguars offense had their own issues. 12 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: We've got fanatics, fan questions as you would imagine they 13 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: were putting on social media. Today we'll go around the 14 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: National Football League as well. We start today with head 15 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:06,639 Speaker 1: coach Doug Peterson immediately after the game on Jaguars radio 16 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: coverage with Bucky Brooks just outside the Jaguars locker room 17 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: recapping the loss. It's just as we know, it's not 18 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: good enough. It's it's embarrassing, quite frankly, communication on offense, 19 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: turnovers on offense, drop passes on offense. You know, I 20 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: can't get off the field defensively. I think eight eight possessions, 21 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: eight scorers by them. You know what else? What else 22 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: do you say? Right? That's that's the that's the ball game. 23 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: And you know, we have to somewhere somehow with with 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: a young football team. We've got to figure this thing out. 25 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: We've got to figure out that there's a level of 26 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: intensity every single week going into each week, right, and 27 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: every weeks a new week. Every week is another set 28 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: of challenges. We've talked about this only all year, and 29 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: and that's what we have to understand. And and um, 30 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: the Lions are They're good football team, don't get me wrong. 31 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: They're good football team. And they played well today. But 32 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: they were fighting for the same things we were fighting 33 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: for him, you know what I mean. And and appeared 34 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: that they wanted it, uh, you know, just a touch 35 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: touch more than we did. And and um, that's unacceptable 36 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: by by all the guys in the locker room. They 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: know that. I know that you gotta get fixed. As 38 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson yesterday, of course. The archive of Jaguars post 39 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: game available on the Official Jaguars Podcast network. We're live 40 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: today on Tinto x l A M Jaguars social Media, Twitter, Facebook, 41 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: and YouTube, and we welcome in Tony Boselli and Pete 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: Frisco and gentlemen, good afternoon. How are we feeling today, Pete, 43 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: Let's start with you. I'm feeling great, a lot better 44 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: than that team's feeling. I can tell you that right now. 45 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: That was an ambush. They were terrible and and all 46 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: the way across the board. I mean, it was just bad, 47 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: and particularly that defense. And you have a lot of money, 48 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: and we're gonna get through and through it all night. 49 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: But they have a ton of money invest in that defense. 50 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: They have a ton of draft capital invest in that defense. 51 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: And they stink. Okay, that's the only way to describe 52 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: that defense. It stinks. You know, if you could tech 53 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 1: aim one player who played well on Sunday, who would 54 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: it be on the defensive side of the ball. Louis 55 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: Khan did some good things. But that's about it, right Tony, 56 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I think the 57 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: bigger issue, Pete is this defense can't get off the ball. 58 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: They're they're no good on third down and and they 59 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 1: and they and they have bus they have guys and 60 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: running wide open at times, and guys looking confused in 61 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: the back half. And and you couple that with the 62 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: fact that we don't rush the passer. We have nobody 63 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: who can win up front on any type of consistent 64 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: basis at all. Um, when you need to, and that's 65 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: how you get people off on their done. You pressure 66 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: with quarterback he force. Now, they did some things that 67 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: lead the field goals where they blitzed and and some 68 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: good designs. But when I watch our defense, it feels 69 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: like there's a bunch of confusion, like guys are unclear. Um. 70 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: And you add to that, I mean this team can't 71 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: play man Pete. I mean they are trying their best, 72 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: rolling out every corner known demand kind. And you know, 73 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: these are young guys. I'm not saying they can't learn 74 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: how to do it, but right now they're not ready 75 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: to go out there and play man. Um. So it's 76 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, and they got lost, like you said, they 77 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: get when they get the young guys in there. They 78 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: on the swift swing pass out of the backfield. I 79 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: watched it. I'm still I'm still trying to figure out 80 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: if that's Muma, if it's a Louis Komma somebody. I 81 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: think it's the corner. The way they played, they looked 82 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: like they're playing the zone over there. He kind of carried, 83 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: he went with the receiver. He's probably supposed to stay 84 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: out there. No, I don't think they were in man. No, 85 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 1: but if you look at the lukhn he is doing 86 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: spinning cops trying to figure out where. You know, there 87 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: was confusion, it was clear and I don't know whose 88 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: fault it was ultimately who's supposed to be there. But 89 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: I know this that the back you know, swinging out 90 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: as a checkdown, it's not supposed to have thirty yards 91 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: of grass in front of them. And so yeah, there's 92 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of issues. I think, Pete, you said it. 93 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the side of the ball. They've 94 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: invested ton of money, a ton of money. I mean 95 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: you think back over the two years, the last two 96 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: years where they've invested money, invested a bunch of money 97 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: and safety with Rashon Jenkins. So I think it's a 98 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: good player, and I really do, and I think you know, 99 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: he plays hard. There's an intensity about him. They invested 100 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of money and Shack Griffin, who even before 101 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: he got Hurt was not playing great football now on 102 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: the field. They invested a ton of money in a 103 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: little con They invested a ton of money and the 104 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: two inside guys where Robinson Harrison brought Acostody and they're 105 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: not getting a bunch of production from there. Um. And 106 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: they invested a bunch of draft capital. If you look 107 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: at the drafts the last three years, they spent two 108 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: first rounders on C. J. Henderson and chased on which 109 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: are basically nothing. You've got nothing zero out of two 110 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: first rounders. Uh. This year they draft, they drafted in 111 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: the first round. They drafted two guys and once been benched, 112 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: and one is Um. I think to good football player 113 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: in tradil On Walker, but he's not a pass rusher 114 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: today and so he's he can't really impact the game 115 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: the way you need him to based on the position 116 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: he's playing. Um. And then you got Chad move by 117 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: the third rounder who's now starting because your first rounder camp. 118 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: And so you look at the investment made on that 119 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: side of the ball. I forgot that nickel, You forgot 120 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: that nickel corner? Oh sorry, And then you spend a 121 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: bunch of money I think ten plus million. I don't know. 122 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: At least that number. Um, I'm sure it's out there 123 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: somewhere on Darius Williams. And so if you look at 124 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: the amount of money you've spent free agency in draft 125 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: capital over the last two years of free agency, three 126 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: years of the draft, and you have zero return on investment, 127 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: and that is it's not just troubling. Yesterday. I mean, 128 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: yesterday was embarrassing. Doug said it best, but I'm not 129 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: gonna kill I mean, it's disappointing because there's so much 130 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: in front of you. It was playing out right how 131 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: we talked about last week. Titans are gonna get beat 132 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: by Philly. If you can go win a game in Detroit, 133 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: you are now relevant in December in the player picture 134 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: that's right there in front of you, and you set 135 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: up a huge game in Tennessee, now, you know. So 136 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: that's super disappointing. But I think the more alarming fact 137 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: is the investment made has ramifications on the cap for 138 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: next year. And Pete, if we were to do a 139 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: breakdown right now, like what this team needs, Oh my gosh, 140 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: all the investments you made, you have to go replace. 141 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: You need corners, you need pass rushers, you need you 142 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: need another big body that can dominate on the inside 143 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: and get pushed. I mean, I mean, like so like 144 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: everything you still need, you still need. I mean I 145 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: tweeted out a picture today and I don't remember. I 146 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: don't know if you saw it. It It was it was 147 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: second and ten from the goal line, and they went 148 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: to their nickel defense and they ran Jamal Williams down 149 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: to the one. Do you remember the play? You had 150 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars in cap hit on the inside with 151 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: Roy Robinson, Harrison's podocacci from this just from this year 152 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: getting blocked. You had the two ends doing nothing. You 153 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: had Muma getting blocks third round pick, and you had 154 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: ray Sean Jenkins with the nine million dollar capit who 155 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: was playing the dime linebacker getting blocked and so he 156 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: ends up on the one yard line. And so all 157 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: the money and you just said it, all the money 158 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: and draft capital they invested in that defense. Do you 159 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: have optimism for next if those same exact guys come 160 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: back next year? Is there optimism that they're going to 161 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: be good on defense? No, let me ask Let me 162 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: ask you this way, then, guys down the stretch here 163 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: five games to go. A lot of the younger players 164 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: you mentioned the draft picks those guys over the last 165 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: couple of years, those guys can develop over the last 166 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: five games, right and get better and and improve or 167 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: is is it almost at this point a little too 168 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: late in this campaign to do that? Well? Like who 169 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: like who beside tray Von Walker? So okay, let's talk 170 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: about that though. In today's NFL with the CBA don't practice, 171 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: how many reps are they really getting on the past field. 172 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: That's when you get better, by the way, like you're 173 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: not just all of a sudden. I mean, you get 174 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: you get experience in the game and you get used 175 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: to the game speed and seeing things. So there's there's 176 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: value in that. But you don't practice. And that's not, 177 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: by the way, that's not the coach's fault. That's not 178 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: the organization's fault. That's not players fault per se, it's 179 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: the cb A. I mean, today's NFL, you're limited and 180 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: on how much better you're gonna get on the practice 181 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: field at this time of year. Just the reality, Um, 182 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: you can do some you can you know, you can 183 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: get mentally better and mental reps, but if you look 184 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: at it, you know, so let's go down each guy, 185 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: young guys said tray about Walker, what is he? He's 186 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: a freakish athlete. He's super athletically talented. He's a powerful 187 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: individual who does not know how to um rust the pastor. 188 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: It is hard too you you learn things by rep 189 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: rebit repetition, So you need he needs reps on the 190 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: practice field, working on technique, hans counter moves, inside moves, 191 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: so you know, so on and so forth that he 192 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: then can carry over and of the game. So you know, 193 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: are you so? I guess should there be a plan 194 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 1: to structure practice in a way that you are getting 195 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: him the reps? And maybe they are, Maybe they're doing 196 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: that already. I had no idea. We're not out there. Um. So, 197 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: Traymont Walker needs to learn how to rush the pastor. 198 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: He has all the gifts and tools that you want, 199 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: but he's not a pass rusher. He has how many 200 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: sacks on the year? Two one or two one and 201 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: a half? Isn't that? Yeah? It's yeah, one and one 202 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: and a half. So I mean, and and he's not 203 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: getting a bunch of pressure. He got a little bit 204 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: of push at times, um. And he got one where 205 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: he got a little pressure when he did a stunt 206 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: coming around. Yeah. Stuff, like that. He's a great athlete. Okay, 207 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: so that's that Devin Lloyd, Um, he can learn to play, 208 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: but it's about learning to playbook and playing fast. He 209 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: needs to learn how to play that position. He needs 210 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: to understand coverage. You need to understand his drops. He 211 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: unders he's understands his assignments. But here's the question you have. 212 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: Are you gonna you're gonna pull Moon out to go 213 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: give him those reps, you know, learn with him on 214 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: the fly or is that an offseason thing that he 215 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: just needs time in the in the classroom, in time 216 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: in you know, on the field and really walking through 217 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: stuff and going through and understated the process. Again though, 218 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: even if he did know the assignments and he knew 219 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: he could play, one of them ain't playing right. So 220 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: then that's my point. Then you go down to Chad Muma. Okay, 221 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: you know he they you know last week they were 222 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: better with them, they got lined up better. I mean, 223 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: let's i mean breakdown last week's defense too. It's not 224 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: like it was a dominating effort. Mark Jackson was awful. 225 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: He missed wide open guys and so but they won 226 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: the game and he didn't. They I mean, they did 227 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: what it took to win. So I don't look better 228 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: from week to week. I didn't. I didn't think you 229 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: looked that much better. So so there's there's and and 230 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: then and then you've got a bunch of young corners. 231 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: You know, mon Tere Brown, which was a six or 232 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: seventh prounder and uh on uh camp Campbell, Campbell Campbell, 233 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: thank you, yep, Tamon Campbell. I mean those are undrafted, 234 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: late round draft picks that Chris Brooks, Chris Claybrooks. I mean, 235 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: how many years has he been here? Now? Yeah, I 236 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: mean so like what like you hope, but you know, 237 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: you gotta that's time, that's development. I mean, And to 238 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: Pete's point is, and so going into next year, let's 239 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: just take the corner position. Just take corner, nothing else 240 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: on this team, because I'm not giving up on Tradelon Walker, 241 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: but any means he's a I think he's gonna be 242 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: a good football player like you like you gotta and 243 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: I think Devin Lloyd has a chance to be a 244 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: good football players a great athlete. But if you just 245 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: take corners going into next year, how many of these 246 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: corners around the roster that you're confident to go in 247 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: and you can win football because I don't think that 248 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: in my opinion, I don't think in the building, I 249 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: wonder how confident they are because I mean you see 250 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: them trying everything you possibly can, and when they've gone 251 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: down to play works is a special teams guy rolling 252 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: him out there for meaningful defensive snaps. It tells you 253 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: all you need to know. They don't say anything else 254 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: but by just what's going on. And so if you 255 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: look at the corners, how many guys are on this 256 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: roster that you have confidence going in the next year 257 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: that you know, Okay, we can go win football games 258 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: with him, and so yeah we don't. We don't have 259 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: to have the conversation. I think everyone knows the answer there. 260 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: So it tells you gotta go find at least one, 261 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: maybe two corners in the draft and free agency. Well 262 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: you just did that. Well yeah, you just did that 263 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: and be just paid to That's my point. You just 264 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: did it. I mean, like Darius Williams, they can't, like 265 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: if they wanted to get rid of him next year, 266 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: they couldn't. He's got eleven million dollar guarante contract. Get 267 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: tell twelve million dollars and dead money. If you get 268 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: rid of them. They can't do that. I still think 269 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: my theory on him is right. He needs to go 270 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: back and play outside. I'm sorry, he needs to play. 271 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: That's what they should do. Play him outside. The other 272 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: he can't play in side. He was outside when he 273 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: played for the Rams. He was fine when he played outside. 274 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: And if you maybe that's the answer. But if you 275 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: look at it, um, but they paid him to come 276 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: be a nickel be that's the problem. You pay them 277 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: via nickel now to all your pride and go move 278 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: them outside. And I like, just because you brought u 279 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: Darius Williams and I'm not putting this all on him 280 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: by any means. You all look at the first two 281 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: series of that game. We have two great runs and 282 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: Travis et and unfortunately fumbles Okay, terrible. That's no good. 283 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: Not the way you want to start the game. Bion's 284 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: drive down short field. Um, by the way, it's third 285 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: down or second or third down, doesn't matter. They runna slant, 286 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: Darius Williams has the ball in his hands. Were a pick, 287 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: do you think that game might be a little bit 288 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: different if you got to pick there? Whatever? But but 289 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not a catch ends up being 290 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: a catch and getting first to go up the inside 291 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: the one. I mean, those are players you have to 292 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: make and he got. There are a couple of situations 293 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: where he was man up on St. Brown and he 294 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: got torched. Torched. I think he's not and he's not 295 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: a big outs like one of that's the problem. But 296 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: he needs I would move him outside and go play somebody, 297 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: try somebody else on the inside, because it ain't working. 298 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: What it is right now, the way they have it 299 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: right now is not working. Did not certainly not yesterday. 300 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: We've got plenty of time I had for more defensive, 301 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: be a fun show today. These are my kind of shows. JP. 302 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: We call up players, we we evaluate them, and we 303 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: don't care if they're young players or not. We just 304 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: call them out like they are. This is the Pete 305 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: Briscoe Show today. Courting to fourteen, the final score Lions 306 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: over the Jaguars. We're back in a moment, and the 307 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: quarterback and his health a concern after yesterday. To pr 308 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: I Production is the official event production company of the Jags. 309 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: Has everything you need to bring your next idea to life. 310 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: Visit p r I Productions dot com. We are off 311 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: and running. What a show it should be. 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I mean, it's just embarrassing, honestly, um, what 314 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: we put out there, and such a big game for us, 315 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: and just I mean that's the word describes embarrassing everybody. 316 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: That Lockerman feels that way too, just to you know 317 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: how I mean, this is a playoff game for us 318 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: and we go out there and lay down and UM, 319 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: I mean credit to them, those guys, those guys whooped 320 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: us so UM, not taking anything away from them, but 321 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: just just the way we came out and both sides 322 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: of the ball, you know, all three phases just didn't 323 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: play anywhere close to our best football, weren't detailed, didn't execute, UM, 324 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: And it's just embarrassing when you especially coming off a 325 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: big win and you come out here and um lay 326 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: an egg. It's just can't happen. You know, we've lost 327 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: we've lost eight games this year and um, ever and 328 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: I felt like we got embarrassed like we did today 329 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: and that can't happen. There's quarterback Trevor Lawrence after the 330 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: game yesterday, welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour and for 331 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: nine years, dream Finders Homes has been proud to call 332 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: themselves the official homebuilder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Visit dream 333 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: finders Homes dot com, roll the available inventory, and go Jags. 334 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,239 Speaker 1: It's the Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jeholme. Loans were 335 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: on Tintin x l a M, Jaguars dot com, jag 336 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: social media, which is a buzz today by the way, Twitter, Facebook, 337 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: and YouTube. They speaking of the quarterback and injury update. 338 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: Remember that play right before halftime, rolled up left leg 339 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: look bad for a minute. He came back in the 340 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: second half let a touchdown dry. But Doug Peterson earlier 341 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: today on the status of the quarterback surely not the knee, 342 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: it's actually the foot in the toe area, um, and 343 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: he was checked out today. He's he's good. They're on 344 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: no issues. Obviously sore from from the hit, but we're 345 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: still getting some more UM testing done on his uh 346 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: foot and toe. Are any worry about his availability for 347 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: this upcoming week. I'm not sure yet. Um, I don't 348 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: think so. I think, I think, you know, I think 349 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: things trending in the in the right direction, but I 350 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: won't have a definite until I get the report later today, 351 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, on his foot and everything. Well, from a 352 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: disaster of a football game yesterday, that's the best news 353 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: that could come out of that game. I believe guys 354 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: that you know that it could have been. It could 355 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: have been a whole lot worse for the quarterback. So well, 356 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: not only that, JP I with the toughness, is the 357 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: kid to come back. I mean, I think he's a 358 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: tough guy. Anyway. He stands in there and he'll stare 359 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: down the gun barrel, make the throws. But I mean 360 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: he that That just tells you initially you yeah, to 361 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: admit you guys are sitting in the booth. I'm sure Tony, 362 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: you sat there and you thought that was goodbye for 363 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: for a while. He's gonna be in big trouble. Yeah, 364 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: I thought. I thought watching it, I thought it was 365 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: a knee and I thought the season was over and 366 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: it could possibly impact next year's season as well. Why 367 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: wasn't that a personal foul? By the way, wasn't it 368 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: rough in the passer? Because watch where he starts. He 369 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,239 Speaker 1: started around the waist when he hits him, he hits 370 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: him at the right around the waist, and then he 371 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: spins him and he goes down. Yeah, you're right. So 372 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: if a little lower, it would have been a personal foul. 373 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: Bad play by Cam Robinson. By the way. The kid 374 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: that's a rookie, that's a rookie, sixth round pick. By 375 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: the way, he was getting that rush right there. Um. Yeah, 376 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: I thought I give him credit for coming back. Uh, 377 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: And that shows you how he cares and he's he's 378 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: a tough guy. But that was scary for that franchise 379 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: right there. Um. Yeah, that's that's the last thing you 380 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: can allow. You can't let that happen. And it's not 381 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: a good job. I can poor technique dropping back foot. Um, 382 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: and that kid gave Cam a couple issues, maybe two 383 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: or three. I saw twelve. The guy only played twelve 384 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: snaps and he three pressures. Yeah, two pressures, and he 385 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: had two sacks last week against against Buffalo, So he's 386 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: is an interesting kidding Todd Washingman want to pay him 387 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: a little bit more? Yeah, I mean that. Look, the 388 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: bottom line is the quarterback came back. It sounds like 389 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: it's nothing to do with the knee. It's a foot 390 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: and and he sounds like they're gonna be ready to 391 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: go this week. So it just tells you how tough 392 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: he is. He's a good player. Um, but the offense 393 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: wasn't good yesterday either. I mean it wasn't like that 394 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: thing was cooking either. Well, they fumble on the opening drive, 395 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: second play of the game, fumble it away. There's drops 396 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: all day long. I think PFF counted five for him. Yeah, 397 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: that one throw into the middle of the field would 398 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 1: have been it might have been a touchdown. And that 399 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: dropped there. It was big because what that would have 400 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: made it seven? Seven right right there? And well, think 401 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: about this, Pete, if you if you take if Darious 402 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: one makes a play and picks it, and then um 403 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: the Jones makes a play just catching it. So two catches. 404 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: If you just catch these two balls, it's a different game. 405 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the Lions beat the hell out of him, 406 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: So I'm not saying they would have won the game, 407 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: but it feels different, like who knows what happens. But 408 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: you know what's amazing, too, Tony when you look at it. 409 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: We we talked about the lines haven't been good on 410 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: defense all year. They're terrible, that they'll be worse than 411 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: the NFL thirty second and then the last and you 412 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: think and you think get three yards. In the last 413 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: three weeks they've been better. But you're right, they've had it. 414 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 1: Early in the season, they were historically bad. They were 415 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: on pace to be the worst defensive all time. But 416 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: the one thing, but the one thing you can look 417 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: at at that defense though, that you can't when you 418 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: look at Jacksonville's They have a young players that you 419 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: look at and you go like a Kuda, Okay, Kuda 420 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: had his rough moments, but he's gonna be a good, 421 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: solid corner. They have the linebacker they drafted. He went 422 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: in and out of line line up yesterday because I 423 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: think he's dinged up. The Rodriguez kid, you have, Hutchinson 424 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: McNeil is a good player. Lee m The defensive apples 425 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: are good players. Third year I think, I mean that kid, 426 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: the other pass rushers, a rookie. They have guys that 427 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: are young that you can look at him and say, hey, 428 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: you know what, JP, those are the ones that are 429 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: gonna get better when they play. They're getting better. But 430 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: you would argue, I mean, come on, you would, let's 431 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: be also a little bit fairer here to the Jags 432 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: and our team. I mean, Traymon Walker is gonna get better. 433 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: I think you'll give it. I don't think he's gonna 434 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: get better and become the Tony. Usually pass rushers flair 435 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: flash as when the minute they get in the league doesn't. 436 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: They might not play all the snaps like he does, 437 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: but they flash. When when has he flashed a pass 438 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: rush aside from a power aside from a power move 439 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: here and there or whatever. When when you gotta go long, 440 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: look long and hard to find one though, that's the problem, 441 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: and you watch hudges and hudgeson to get that what 442 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: he got to the quarterback that one time he got 443 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: that sack, but that was a bad assignment. I think 444 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: if that, I'm not gonna stay right on that. He's unblocked. Yeah, 445 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: so if you look at him though, he's twisting and 446 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 1: using his hands and he'll bowl sometimes and coming whereas 447 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: that's the difference between him and Trayvon Walker. Point, I'm not. 448 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm not. Just you're the one who says you don't 449 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a pastor do you think he 450 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: needs to go down? You're missing my point. I'm not. 451 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: I don't think I I've seen nothing that makes me 452 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a dominant pass usher in this league. 453 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: I do think he's gonna be a really good player, though, 454 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: and your your theory is to put twenty on him 455 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: and bulk him up and make him down player. And 456 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I'm not giving up. I refuse 457 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: to ever give up any rookie rookies after one year. 458 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: I think it's just too early. I mean, I'm not 459 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: giving up on him. Recurring back, I'm referring back here 460 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: comment around. You know, the Lions have all these great 461 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: guys that can get better. I think the Jags have 462 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: good guys. If you get better too, but I'm always 463 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: gonna be better. Movement's gonna be better. But they also 464 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: have a lot of veterans that are being paid a 465 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: lot of money who should be better. Well, the the 466 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: I actually the free agency. I mean, if you look 467 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: at the last three years, because that's how you build 468 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: your team, Like, look at really over a four year period, 469 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: because that's when those draft picks start matureing and let's 470 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: just look at it three years. Let's look at you know, 471 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: at that period of time, you've got nothing out of 472 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: your draft. Defensively, you spent a bunch of draft capital 473 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: on in that side, of the ball, and you spent 474 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of free agency capital on that side of ball. 475 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: And the problem I have is is these young guys 476 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: that we drafted this year, it's too early. But if 477 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: you look at twenties draft and you drafted two guys 478 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: in the first round, either one is not even on 479 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,239 Speaker 1: the team, the other one has never been able to 480 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: get on the fields and chase on And then you 481 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: go and then you and then you couple you couple 482 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: that with what they've invested in free agency on that 483 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: side of the ball to your point, and you're getting 484 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: nothing return. And that doesn't count Mal Brown either, because 485 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: that was last year too. Remember they signed him as 486 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: a free agent when that two years ago? Right, that's right? Hey, 487 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: um so get us back to the Lions defense. Then 488 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: how good will this defense in Detroit be in a 489 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: couple of years. Well, it was still still to be determined. 490 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: I mean that they need to spend They need to 491 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: spend money on that side of the ball too. They 492 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: haven't spent any money on that side of the ball none, 493 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: So they need to start spending money on that side 494 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: of the ball and and do more drafting over there. 495 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's some young pieces that you get 496 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: excited about on that side of the ball. Um there 497 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: they've been a bad defense, but jacksonvill was the worst 498 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: defense on Sunday by far and away. You didn't get 499 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: the guy never punted. But there is something they can 500 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: take from going up there and and losing. It's not 501 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: the worst loss in Detroit when this franchise has ever had. 502 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: I was came up that was taking knee game in 503 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: the third quarter. Mercy. Imagine if that happened today, Tony 504 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 1: would go viral. Yeah, not the worst loss. So they 505 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: got that going for him. Congratulations, let's come back plenty 506 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: more ahead. Oh you're some more from Doug Peterson, Jaguars 507 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: head coach, discussing the defense coming up. Yes, we'll get 508 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: back to defense, and the guys wanted to go there 509 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: a little early. Again. It will be a topic, certainly 510 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,239 Speaker 1: because the Jags gave up eight scoring drives and then 511 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: a kneel down on the defense yesterday and the Lions 512 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: over the Jaguars for fourteen. It's time to deck the halls. 513 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: Duvall join us Dessemmer eighteen. This Trevor Lawrence needs the 514 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: charge against Dak Prescott of the Dallas Cowboys, whether you're 515 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: gifting the game or treating yourself. We've got tickets to 516 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: fit every budget, so visit Jaguars dot com. Slash tickets 517 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: are called nine O four six three three two thousand. 518 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home Loans on 519 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. We just gotta keep playing, just trying, 520 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: you know, put us in a good position to you know, 521 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: moving forward. And Uh, it's gotta go, man, I just 522 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: gotta go. Man. It's it's disappointing, you know, especially for 523 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: him not to punt the ball one time. That's embarrassing. 524 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: I've never ever done that before my career. Hopefully it's 525 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a last Um. I just gotta keep on going, man. Unacceptable. 526 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: It's Josh Allen, Jaguars outside linebacker in the locker room 527 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: in Detroit yesterday. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour coming 528 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: up in the second hour a little bit, we'll get 529 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: to social media questions. That's been a busy, busy place 530 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: today on Jaguars Twitter. Of course, after a forty to 531 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: fourteen loss to the Detroit Lions. Hey, let's continue our 532 00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: defensive conversation. Doug Peterson earlier today asked about Mike Well's 533 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: first year as the coordinator. Listen, it takes it takes time. 534 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: You know. I can remember back when you know, I 535 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: was first time coordinator and you're trying to you're trying 536 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: to do a lot of different things, and then you know, 537 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: you realize, you you you back off just a little bit. 538 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: And we've done that. We have, We've we scaled back 539 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: a little bit and and um, you know, we've got 540 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: some talented players, We've got some good players. And again, 541 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: as a staff, we're just making sure that, you know, 542 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: we put these guys in the right positions, you know, 543 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: and that's on us to do that. But um, you know, 544 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: I think Mike has done a done a good job 545 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: of organizing and and and really keeping things, you know, 546 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: keeping things together. But on the same side of that is, 547 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, we've got to do a better job of 548 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: coaching and teaching and making sure everybody understands, you know, 549 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: their jobs. Pee Risco and Tony Baselli back with us now. 550 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: That was earlier today from the head coach. The defense 551 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: has been under the microscope, I would say after yesterday's 552 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: game and in all facets, so we've talked through personnel. Um, 553 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, let's hear it from the other perspective to 554 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: the play calling, the coordinating of everything. How does it 555 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: look from the outside looking in. So I'm a big 556 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: proponent on coach's job is understand the talent he has 557 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: and put them in the best position possible. And if 558 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: you see a bunch of guys confused, it's it's only 559 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: it can be a couple of things, and maybe there's 560 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: other things that could be. But one is you just 561 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: have players who aren't smart enough or aren't doing the 562 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: work to study to understand what you're doing. Or on 563 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: the flip side, as a coach, you're doing too much. 564 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: You're asking too much, You have too much in there, 565 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: and you need to simplify and to allow your players 566 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: to play fast and be in the right position. And 567 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: while you might not be able to confuse the offense, 568 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: you know what you have to put you play fast, 569 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: you make plays and you know. And so that's a 570 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: little bit of philosophical standpoint. And when I watch it 571 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: looks like we have trouble getting line at the times. 572 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: We have a bunch of bucks of coverages. Guys are 573 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: wide open, and so to Doug's point, you know, is 574 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: it is it the players? You know? Is it the 575 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: players not studying it up and not preparing enough, not 576 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: enough reps on the field what Or is it just 577 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: is Mike call while asking them to do too much. 578 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: We're not in there, so I don't know, but it's 579 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: one of the two and it's up to the coaches 580 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: to go figure that out and put their guys in 581 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: the same place. And then the second thing I want 582 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: to kind of talk about. He saw Josh Allen there 583 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: and then we hear Doug Peterson say, we have a 584 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: lot of talented guys on that side of the ball. 585 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: And I love Josh Allen. Let me just let me 586 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: put my bias out there. I really like I consider 587 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: Josh and a friend of mine. I like him a ton. 588 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: I think he's a good dude. But you you just 589 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: it's hard not to like scratch the head, is what's happened. 590 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: He is not getting productive pressure, he's not getting sacks, 591 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: he's not being disruptive over there. And I think he's 592 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: a talented guy, and I just don't understand what's going 593 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: on there, and they you need guys like Josh Allen 594 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: and I'm bringing this up because of him talking, So 595 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm focusing on him. It's not just Josh because he 596 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: was talking and calling falling up by Doug saying we 597 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: have talent to guys, Well, where are the talent to 598 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: guys when it comes time to make a play And 599 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: we're not seeing that, And that's part of the problem here. 600 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: So often good defenses have great players that even when 601 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: everything's not perfect, and Pete you know this, they go 602 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: make plays, they disrupted, they mess it up, and right 603 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: now we don't have our best players doing that. Let 604 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: me ask this, Tony is there. You know you always 605 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: talk about the twitchy pass rushers or either one of 606 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: those guys twitchy. I thought Josh Allen was Pete, but 607 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: maybe not. I don't know. I don't think he is. 608 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: I don't think he's twitchy. And you see, okay, you 609 00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: saw Hutchinson yesterday. He's twitchy. You have no power. He has, 610 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: he needs power. But I think it's funny like the 611 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: comment like, you know, who would you pick travan Or 612 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: or Aid Hutchinson And I was not. I would have 613 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: never drafted as the first world pick and nothing. I 614 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: guess the kid I told you I would have taken. 615 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: I would have taken Tibbot I would have taken I 616 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: would have taken No, I would have taken a deal 617 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: or something I would have taken if I was but 618 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: if I had the force to take one of the 619 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: pass rushers, I would have taken Thibodeau. But but but 620 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: my point, he said, so, I don't want to he's twitchy. 621 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if he's twitch What 622 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: he has is he has pass rush moves and to 623 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: his counters, he spins back, he uses his hand, he 624 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: uses rips, he gets on the edge. But the six 625 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: round he used to move on the sixth round pick 626 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: used to move on camera. That was the best pass 627 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: rush anyone made on either side. He was the best 628 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: pass rusher in the game. He was the best pass 629 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: rusher in the game. And so when you look at 630 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: it from that standpoint, all the guys that you talk 631 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: about that are being those those pass rushers, the guys 632 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: you identify, right, you have go through Boses, twitchy, Von Miller, twitchy. Um. 633 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: You know, even the inside rushers like they're twitchy. Where 634 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: they there's not, that's not who those guys are. But 635 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: if like you always say, if you bulked up and 636 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: put twenty pounds on Trayvon Walker. He'd be a twitchy 637 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: guy on the inside right for that position. People. And 638 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like a broken record. And 639 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: and I actually my believer in Traylon Walker as a 640 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: football player, I really am. I just don't understand for 641 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: the life of me, why you pick a guy number 642 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: one overall and asked him to do something he's never 643 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,479 Speaker 1: done before. I don't understand or even even now if 644 00:33:55,520 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: it's not working, why not? I mean he is like 645 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: like I'll give you for example, if you look at 646 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: the pass rush he made where he got that pressure. 647 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: Now he didn't finish, and he's got to finish. Down 648 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: to Jared Goff, Jared Goff is the worst athlete on 649 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: the football field day. You gotta tackle him. With that said, 650 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: go watch that again. He lined up as a three 651 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: technique is a little bit of a you know, hump 652 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: move because uh, you know hits the guy hits the 653 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 1: uh Jonah Jackson on the shoulder, moves him and then 654 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: athletically shuffles to the moves latterly to the left and 655 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: gets vertical. It's a really nice play. It's an athletic 656 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 1: move because it's a great athlete. But yes, I think 657 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: you put him inside. I'm with you. I'm with you, 658 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: and he would be a twitchiest held big player, but 659 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: as an outside guy he's not. And maybe and maybe 660 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: he and I keep on saying he didn't do it 661 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: in college, Maybe he did. I didn't watch, not a 662 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: lot of it. Not a lot of it I watched, 663 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: And so I want to be fair. I want to 664 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: be fair to our scouts and the guys who picked 665 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: him because I had maybe a lot more or not. No, Tony, 666 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: You're not wrong. He didn't do a lot of it. 667 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: He did something. I just it's just yeah, so but 668 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: whatever I mean. But you can get my point on 669 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: the twitchiness of the whole thing though, Like you talked 670 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: about Josh Allen, I thought he would be a twitchy. 671 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I thought he for some reason 672 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: between your run one and now, any twitchiness he had 673 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: is gone. You didn't have it now. And he was 674 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: a good pastorster in college. I don't I that want 675 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: a mystery to me, and I hope he figures it 676 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: out because I really like it. So I'm biased. Don't 677 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: you look at those two right now, because they're both 678 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: good football players, and you say to yourself, gosh, they'd 679 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: be really good if they were the rotation guys has 680 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: passed rushers, big physical, but they don't have You said 681 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: earlier in the season you might pick another one. Uh, 682 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: this is my problem. Here's my big problem. I'm gonna 683 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: go back and we said this earlier in the show. 684 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: So if you've been listening all the time, I apologize, 685 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: but I think it's really important point. You've invested a 686 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: ton on the defensive side in the last three years, 687 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: a ton, and you're awful a ton. And and for 688 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: there's people out there by the way blaming Mike call 689 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: Well because I heard it. Mike cole Will comes from 690 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: Tampa's first time defensive coordinator. When you're a defensive coordinator 691 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: coming over, what does he want to do more than anything? Tony? 692 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: You know he wants to play a lot of man outside. 693 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: He can't. He's stuck with what they have. Well, here's 694 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: the thing, now, Mike call Will is a good football 695 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: coach and he'll learn. I really do believe that. However, 696 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you can't just beat 697 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: your head against the wall. You can't ask guys to 698 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: do things they physically can't do. It's funny. It's a 699 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: funny story. So Mark and I were sitting in Marcadelle. 700 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: We're sitting on the field before. We're talking about this 701 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: football in general. And you know, he's careful, he's a coach. 702 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: He's not gonna come me too much. We're getting ready 703 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: to play a game and I worked with the other organizations. 704 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: We're just talking to general about the philosophy of football. 705 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: But you got guys to do and how you do it. 706 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: And I was picking his brain about his coaching staff 707 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: and kind of the evolution they're going through. It was 708 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: a great conversation, but we started laughing because the topic 709 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: came is part of coaching is putting your guys in 710 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: situations where they can excel. And we started laughing because 711 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: it's really no different than high school football coach and 712 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: we and we told that he was telling the story. 713 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: We're playing and we had this kid playing left tackle 714 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: for us who was a great kid and probably is 715 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: inventing Something's gonna be a billionaire because he's the smartest kid, 716 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: you know. And he went to USC on some academic 717 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: scholarship and we're asking the play the left tackle and 718 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: he against Trinity and he's blocking some kid that's gonna 719 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: be an SEC football player, and the kid was wearing 720 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: him out and just hitting Jojo over and over and 721 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: on the sideline. Mark is yelling at me because I'm 722 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: offensive line coach and he's gone plays and he's just 723 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: screamed at me like what the And I finally grabbed 724 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: looked at him and grabbed him. Not grab him, but 725 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: I got really close when I said, hey, stop yelling 726 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: the kids. He can't do it. We're asking him to 727 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: do something he physically can't do. It's not his fault. 728 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: This is a great kid who's gonna be a great 729 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: person in society, who's gonna invent something. And he's a 730 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: great kid. We can't ask him to do this and 731 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: block this kid who can't. And I tell that story 732 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: because it's it's the same at every level of coaching. 733 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: You can't ask your guys to do something that they 734 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 1: physically can't do. If a guy can't run and can't play, man, 735 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: don't ask him to do it. Put us safe through 736 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: the top, play zone, whatever it is. And I think 737 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: the learning curve here and Mike call was a hell 738 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: of a coach and he was he was under one 739 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: of the best coaches in the NFL in Tampa and 740 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: and Tom Bowles, who is now the head coach, was 741 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: one of the best defense court minds in all football. 742 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: And so he's gonna figure it out and it's a 743 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: learning curve. And I think Mike call was probably frustrate 744 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: his head because he is envisioned in his head how 745 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: he wants play defense. But if you all the guys 746 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: do it, you can't do it. Now you have to 747 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: just and now you have to put your guys in 748 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: situations where they can't have success. And you figured out 749 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: maybe this team just needs to be a bend, but 750 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: don't break and just keep it, you know, you know 751 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 1: when you get into the twenty and force field goals 752 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: and try to you know, limit scoring opportunities and so 753 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: on and so forth. But that's the frustrating part right now, Pete, 754 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: where this team is and you don't you don't have 755 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: impactful guys on that side of the ball, and your 756 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: best players that you were counting on to be impactful 757 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 1: aren't doing it right now. But I remember in training, Kevin, 758 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: I know, JP, you're waving the paper, so I know 759 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: you gotta go. But I remember in training kept me 760 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: and you had a conversation. We were talking about how 761 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: they wanted Mike call was ideal scenarios to play a 762 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: lot of press man coverage and they don't have the 763 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: guys to do it, period, and that played out true. 764 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: Plenty more ahead on this game yesterday. We'll come back 765 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: through in a moment and it into the a f 766 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: C South Yesterday around the NFL Second Hour, coming up 767 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 1: at five o'clock. We'll get to your social media questions 768 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: and much more. 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Shadrick, Pete Prisco, 776 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: Tony Boselli and we're presented by Jet Home Loans and 777 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: we take a live look at the Miller Electric Center. 778 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: If you're watching on Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars Social media, Twitter, Facebook, 779 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: and YouTube. Here's a live look outside a beautiful sunset, 780 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: what a nice day and the seventies Today. The roof 781 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: of the indoor facility is done and everything else is 782 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: on track for next summer to be open and ready 783 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: for business. One five thousand square feet of space for 784 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 1: your Jacksonville Jaguars. Hey Country supermar Superstar Kenny Chesney returns 785 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville April fourteen. Tickets on sale now. Don't miss 786 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: Kenny Chesney's I Go Back Tour with special guest Kelsey 787 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: Ballerini at Daily's Place. For tickets and war info, Visit 788 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: Daily's Place dot com Today. Pete favorite Canny Chesney song, 789 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: go favorite one Kenny Chesney song you might have heard. 790 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: I have no I have no earthly idea I could 791 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 1: aim you one, Tony. I'm not. I'm not a huge 792 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: Kenny Chesney. I don't. First of all, I'm the worst 793 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,879 Speaker 1: and self permitted worst. I love country like I love 794 00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: Kan Brown, I love um you know Jason Dean. I mean, 795 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: I love country music. I'm the worst at naming songs 796 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: like I have a playlist and Spotify with like all 797 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: country if you told me right now, name my favorite 798 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: Spotify list song. I couldn't tell you. I don't know 799 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 1: the names. I couldn't I think you know. Do you 800 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: know a song Brian? Yeah, she thinks my tractor is sexy. 801 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 1: It's probably my favorite one from the old school. I 802 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: do like that song. That's a great song. Or the 803 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: name of the tour I go back, that's like the 804 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 1: name of the tour I thought a game like. I 805 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: enjoy Kenny Chesney, There's no doubt about it, because I 806 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 1: love country. But he's not my top country act. But 807 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 1: like sitting on a beach with an adult beverage, is 808 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: that you know, sunny out, it's going down and hanging 809 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: and listen to little Kenny Chesney. That's a good day 810 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,800 Speaker 1: for me. And you know what sounds like to me, Pete, 811 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 1: is that there'll be seats on the couch at Daily's 812 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: place if we want them, because Tony will not be like, well, no, 813 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: I like Kenny chestniy im gonna try to go to 814 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: that show. Don't get me wrong, I'm just done. I've 815 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: never been a big country music fans. I love country music. Hey, 816 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: go back to the picture you did of the performance center, 817 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: JP which is I'm so excited for that. Um, um excited. Yeah, 818 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm so excited and so thankful for you know, 819 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 1: Shot and his investment, the city's investment doing this. But 820 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 1: when you started talking about the weather in the sunset, 821 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 1: you know what I love about going on the road 822 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL. It makes me appreciate where I live 823 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: so much more and rejoin. It's a great city, great 824 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 1: great football city and you know, good people. But thank goodness, 825 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 1: I don't live there. I lived in Jacksonville. It is 826 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: too cold. Oh my god, it's it's crazy. It's like 827 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: Jacksonville is the first coast area, so Jacksonville point of media, 828 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: Jackson Beach, Atlantic Beach, all those areas is one of 829 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 1: the greatest places on planet or to live. I it was. 830 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: I had a it was either a friend of mine 831 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,399 Speaker 1: or a family member. We're having this conversation a couple 832 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, and they asked me the 833 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: question where would you live if you could live, anywhere 834 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: would you live? And I sat there for about ten 835 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 1: seconds and I pondered, and I said, I live in Jacksonville. 836 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 1: I live anywhere in the world. I live right where 837 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 1: I am I love. I don't get me wrong, I 838 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: love living there. I'd probably prefer to live down here now. Now. 839 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: I love Florida in general. I love South Florida. We 840 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: visit down there. My wife and I love going down 841 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:40,280 Speaker 1: to Port Lauderdale and South Beach. It's a beautiful area, gorgeous, 842 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 1: great people, great culture. Love it. But if I had 843 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: to choose anywhere on planet Earth to live, it would 844 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: be right where I am at. I mean the weather 845 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,439 Speaker 1: my preference, and weather is better down here. We get 846 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: those in November, I mean in January and February and Jacksonville, 847 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: you getting a couple of those, you know, those dark, 848 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: dreary days. I remember when you walk outside it's like 849 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: thirty five and dark and windy, and I hate those days. 850 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 1: I don't mind every once in a while having to 851 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: wear put a pair of jeans on and pull over 852 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 1: and and uh not very often. I don't want to. 853 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 1: I don't want to do very often. I'm with you. 854 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm more of a give me heat, give me, give 855 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: me beach. Um. That's more me too, but also times 856 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: better than Detroit. We McFadden went to Minnesota to do 857 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: the game yesterday. He had to do something outside. He's like, 858 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: we gotta go back and do I go. I ain't 859 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: going to I'm not gonna go to Minnesota the summer 860 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: for camp and unless there's a Super Bowl, I'm not 861 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 1: going back there. They're never getting another SUPERO. You know 862 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: as well as I do. That was one of your 863 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,439 Speaker 1: That was one of your worst moments at that Super Bowl. 864 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 1: I remember when you didn't get into that time when 865 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: you get in there was five of those people. Yeah, 866 00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: but that one was the one we really thought it 867 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: was gonna happen to remember. No, Miami, No, that was Miami. 868 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: Miami was the second, Minnesota then Miami. You're right, thanks 869 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: for bringing it up. Houston, wasn't you know why? Now 870 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: we gotta start getting Fred and that's why he's one 871 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 1: of the finalists. That's why. That's that's I'm with you. 872 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 1: We need to get him into the room. And I 873 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 1: trust that you're doing the same thing you did for me, 874 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: making the calls and make sure you're getting that room. 875 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a couple I'm gonna make a couple 876 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 1: of phone calls with guys I know as well, because 877 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,800 Speaker 1: Fred Taylor's just go watch him. Where the greatest running 878 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 1: backs ever step on a football field in history. Last 879 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 1: night I watched John of the Tailor, and John of 880 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: the tail is a good back, don't get me wrong. Alright, guys, 881 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: that'll do it. First hour in the books on Jaguar's 882 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: Happy Hour, your social questions plenty more ahead in our 883 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,760 Speaker 1: number two is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. 884 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: Game like yesterday is unacceptable for anybody, you know, and 885 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: and the players are included. They understand that. And so 886 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 1: for me, it's not about yelling and screaming and trying 887 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: to get their attention that way, but but still having serious, 888 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 1: hard conversation, you know, And and look, you know, I 889 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: want him to understand what's in front of us. I mean, 890 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: still five games and three division and you know, I mean, 891 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: as crazy as it sounds, and we're not out of anything, right, 892 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's still it's still right in front 893 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 1: of us. But um, it's my job to make sure 894 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 1: that they understand that, you know, And you know, as coaches, 895 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: we gotta I think I think the more you yell 896 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: and scream and try to put a lot of pressure 897 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 1: and heat and this and that they get tight and 898 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: tense and and don't play well. I still want to 899 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: be loose and play and have fun and all that, 900 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: but at the same time they understand there's a it's 901 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,359 Speaker 1: a discipline game, and then we've got to be more 902 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: disciplined than we were yesterday. That's the head coach Doug 903 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: Peterson earlier today and welcome back. It's our number two 904 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: of Jaguars Happy Hour on Monday, after a forty two 905 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: fourteen lost for the Jaguars in Detroit against the Lions, 906 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,720 Speaker 1: a battle of four and seven teams goes the way 907 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 1: of Detroit. The Lions scored on their first eight possessions 908 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: and then knelt down in their ninth to in the 909 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 1: football game, the Lions had only three plays over twenty 910 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: yards for the entire game, so longer sustained drives and 911 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: they controlled the football throughout almost thirty eight minutes worth 912 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: of possession time. DJ Shark and I'm on Ross st. 913 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: Brown had big days on the Jaguars secondary, to say 914 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: the least. On offense, running back Travis E. T N 915 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,959 Speaker 1: lost a fumble in the second snalf of the game. 916 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: Jack's really never recovered from their drop swored issue all day. 917 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence seems to have survived to scare. On the 918 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 1: final play of the first half, left leg was rolled up. 919 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: He came back out for the second half and let 920 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 1: a long scoring drive to get the Jags back within 921 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 1: two possessions. Missed opportunity for the Jags, of course, to 922 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 1: get within two games of the division lead. With five 923 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 1: to play, including two head to head with the Titans, 924 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 1: they're still three back. The record now four and eight, 925 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: and it's on to Nashville, where the Jaguars haven't won 926 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: since the Obama administration. Five straight against Tennessee now have 927 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 1: gone the way of the Titans, and nine of the 928 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 1: last ten. And that is the state of affairs on 929 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 1: this Monday. Pete Frisco Tony Boselli back with us. That 930 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: about sums it up, I think, Pete. Yeah, I mean, look, 931 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: none of it's pretty. It was not a pretty day. 932 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 1: It just wasn't I Doug Peterson's got to sell that 933 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 1: to his players. I get it, and technically they are 934 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: still alive. But come on, you're alive until you're not alive. Pete, 935 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: well got to sleep going into Titan. So I mean 936 00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 1: he's got that. I am. Uh. Doug is handling it right. 937 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: He has to he has to keep those guys involved. 938 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,879 Speaker 1: I love his approach. It's the right approach. But Pete, 939 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 1: you and I can sit here and say, you say 940 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 1: it's over. I'm saying it's a one percent. It's a 941 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: one per center. But let me ask you, this is 942 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 1: this a meaningful game in December this week? It is 943 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 1: only because it's the Titaness. I don't think it's meaningful 944 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: for the overall playoff race. Yet they would have to 945 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: with him to play meaningful games in December. They gotta 946 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: beat They gotta beat Tennessee. When I say meaningful, it's 947 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,399 Speaker 1: meaningful to the organization, but meaningful in the playoff race. 948 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 1: They have to beat Tennessee in Dallas the next two weeks, 949 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 1: which is after what we saw. Oh my, that's I'll 950 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 1: be honest with you, know, Tony, I watched the Titans 951 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 1: Eagles tape today who they were bad. I mean, the 952 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: last weeks has been terrible ball. I actually think that 953 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 1: the matchup against the Titans is more favorable to the 954 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: Jaguars in the matchup defensively than the matchup with the Lions, 955 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 1: because Tandy Hill, because Danny, there's no receivers that scary, 956 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 1: and they don't have a st Brown over there, and 957 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: Tanny Hill is not a dropback going to pick you apart. Um, 958 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 1: they're power. They gotta run the ball with Derrick Henry 959 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 1: and they've struggled the last two weeks to do that 960 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 1: against both the Bengals and the Eagles. So I mean 961 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 1: there's a recipe out there. And so I actually think 962 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a super close game. History wasn't no, 963 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 1: But if it wasn't the Titans in our history up 964 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: in Nashville, I would actually think the Jaguars would beat 965 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,799 Speaker 1: the Titans. I mean just based on matchups and everything else. 966 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: So it was Tony. It was brutal on Sunday. He 967 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,720 Speaker 1: got hit nine times. Um, they got sacked six times. 968 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 1: They couldn't run the ball, they got no push their 969 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 1: little you know, the inside guys on that line are little. 970 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 1: That Brewer kids little, The center's little, the right guard 971 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: is not a big guy. They got pushed back. We 972 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 1: played and the tackles are very good. If if jackson 973 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: was ever gonna get any because the Lions offensive line, 974 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: that's one thing about them. They're pretty good up front. 975 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 1: But one thing about Tennessee. If Jacksonville doesn't get any 976 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 1: pressure or pushed in this game. Something's really wrong. And 977 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,720 Speaker 1: so for the for them to have meaningful playoff games, 978 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: they gotta beat the Titans and the Cowboys, and then 979 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 1: it would be the Jets, right is that Thursday night er? 980 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,840 Speaker 1: And that would be and that would be an interesting 981 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 1: game because then you know, you get the seven and 982 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 1: all you need, all all you need is the Tennessee 983 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 1: to lose one more for that next Tennessee game to 984 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 1: really means something to tie up the division. The only 985 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,399 Speaker 1: thing is what you saw on Sunday gives you no 986 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: thought that the any of that's happening, particularly with the 987 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 1: way with the way the Cowboys played Sunday night late 988 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 1: in that game. Now, well I mean, I mean I'm 989 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 1: not gonna get to the Cowboys. Yeah, I mean, based 990 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 1: on the way they played. But basically, the both teams 991 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 1: played this past week, and if you're looking at the Cowboys, 992 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 1: Cowboy's gonna win a hundred and nothing. Um and But 993 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 1: but the way that history in Nashville is is tough 994 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 1: to overcome. I actually think that Jackguards will win this game. Okay, 995 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 1: all right, are we gonna locked that? Already? Did it? 996 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,760 Speaker 1: I thought I already did you locked one? You locked 997 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 1: one of the two. You didn't say which one, but 998 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 1: you're not so you probably think they're gonna win at home, 999 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: so you gotta lock to then. No, don't do that 1000 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,359 Speaker 1: to yourself. I'm not locking it, but I think they were. 1001 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 1: I think they win. I don't. I don't think Tennessee's 1002 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: very I don't think Tennessee. I don't think Tennesse either. 1003 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 1: I don't think Tennessee is that good either. But there's 1004 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 1: bad history there. I mean, come on, Tony, how many 1005 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 1: times did Jacksonville go there with the better team and 1006 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 1: got whacked? I was telling you what I think, Pomp 1007 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 1: pomp waver No, because if if that offensive line is 1008 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: struggling as bad as they are apt and they can't 1009 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 1: run the ball, Derrick Henry, they can't move the ball, 1010 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 1: they can't win with Tanny Hill with their defense wasn't 1011 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 1: very good on Sunday either. I mean it was just 1012 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: it was one of those games they got ambushed and 1013 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: they looked bad doing it, and they didn't look great 1014 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 1: against the Bengals, particularly on offense. I mean, it's not 1015 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 1: a this is not a dominantee. If there's ever a 1016 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 1: chance you can win that game, this would be it. 1017 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: I just don't think they will. We'll see, we'll find 1018 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 1: out the Sunday in Nashville's the Jaguars trying to get 1019 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: off the deck and get back up, certainly defensively against 1020 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: the guy who's over the years hurt them on the 1021 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 1: ground obviously. But you know that's the other thing, Pete. 1022 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 1: We talked about all these new faces the last year 1023 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,800 Speaker 1: or so. It's the new organization, right, So don't worry 1024 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,640 Speaker 1: about the history of Okay, but the history from nine 1025 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 1: carried over to two thousand and nine, carried over to 1026 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 1: two thousand and nineteen. Come on, if they just have 1027 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 1: they have dominated him. They have there. It doesn't matter 1028 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 1: who's in the in the uniform. The franchise has been 1029 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 1: dominated by the Titan that you can't hide from that 1030 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 1: at How do you fix that? How do you change that? 1031 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,719 Speaker 1: Go beat him, don't tremble in your boots when you 1032 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 1: see him on the other sideline like Tony's teams used 1033 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:18,799 Speaker 1: to do that evil drench. Laugh again, Tony, right there. 1034 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 1: Part of the part of the thing back in the 1035 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: day was I don't know. I always used to think 1036 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,719 Speaker 1: that you guys typed up against them and I don't 1037 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 1: know why. Maybe it was Coughlin, maybe it was they 1038 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 1: did they typed up. They were always like loose his 1039 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 1: goose could be and and you tightened up against them, 1040 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 1: you were the better team. There's no doubt in my mind. 1041 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,720 Speaker 1: I'll go to my grave that ninety nine the Jacksonville 1042 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,720 Speaker 1: jack Wards are a better team than the Tennessee Titans. Times. 1043 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 1: If you look at the first game at home, we 1044 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,839 Speaker 1: had the first goal, and I think all we need 1045 00:55:54,880 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 1: is the field goal. Tom Thru Tom Thrue. So why 1046 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 1: was he throwing it? Oh my gosh, he threw it 1047 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 1: a wet ball. Brunelle, Why didn't remember? It was it 1048 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: was raining? I remember, yes, I remember. And then the 1049 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,439 Speaker 1: second one was the ambush in a night game, right 1050 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,800 Speaker 1: on a Sunday night. On the second one, the second 1051 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 1: one was the day after Christmas. We threw up their 1052 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 1: Christmas Day and and we could not tackle Steve McNair, 1053 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 1: Eddie George or U the tight end who didn't radio it, 1054 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 1: couldn't tackle him. Yeah, that was terrible. And Brunell got 1055 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 1: knocked out with a concussion and it was just like 1056 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 1: it just went sideways. And then the championship game, I 1057 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 1: was working for the safety. The franchise has never been 1058 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,879 Speaker 1: the same since you hear do you hear him, Pete? 1059 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 1: He was hurt. He wasn't in the game. No, he wasn't. 1060 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't in the game, but I was not. I 1061 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,400 Speaker 1: wasn't playing. But Leon, I mean, I mean my point 1062 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 1: of that night. Yeah, he's always right one of them, 1063 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 1: the assignment. I get that, but I'm saying I can't 1064 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 1: speak to it. I wasn't there. I was, I was. 1065 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,920 Speaker 1: I was in the I was up in the boot. 1066 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,360 Speaker 1: You were a luxury box. He was actually used some 1067 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,400 Speaker 1: booth somewhere. He was eating, he was drinking champagne. Here 1068 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 1: he saw what we saw. You were no different than 1069 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 1: I was at that game because we were there, we 1070 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 1: saw it. They after that safety, that was the end 1071 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 1: of the franchise was never the same again, Let's be real. 1072 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 1: They kicked off Derek Mason ripped the kick. Goodbye, not 1073 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 1: going to the super Bowl. That's what happened. It hadn't 1074 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:36,120 Speaker 1: been the same since. Thanks Pete. It's great, Pete, we're 1075 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 1: back in a moment. I did you know why the 1076 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 1: tightens the mode them over the years. We're gonna keep 1077 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 1: it real when we come back, because let me tell 1078 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,960 Speaker 1: you we haven't done that yet. Tonight it's our number two. 1079 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 1: We're rolling along social media questions around the corner as well. 1080 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 1: Jaguars Game Big Radio is brought to you by Vicestar, 1081 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 1: Credit Union, Too Good, Bank Better. We're live on Tin 1082 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 1: Tin xl a M, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars social media 1083 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 1: as well, Twitter and Facebook and YouTube. But it's Jaguars 1084 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 1: Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. I don't get 1085 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 1: involved with the game planning. That's not my expertise, um, 1086 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 1: but just you know, we just gotta have conversations and 1087 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 1: be open and we've we've all got to be honest 1088 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 1: with um, you know what we're doing and making sure 1089 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 1: we got the right guys in the right spots. That's 1090 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, Jaguars head coach on the defensive game planning. 1091 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 1: That was after the game yesterday in Detroit, and welcome back. 1092 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour and it's time now for keeping 1093 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 1: it Real, presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundalwi opened up 1094 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 1: a winner today, a Real Ingredients Award winning line by 1095 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 1: Robert Mundavid Because let me tell you, we haven't kept 1096 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 1: it real yet tonight. I think we have an hour 1097 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 1: and fifteen minutes in or so, so let's get back 1098 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 1: to the defense. Guys, what's the biggest defensive issue yesterday 1099 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 1: in the game and how do you fix it? Moving 1100 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 1: ahead down the stretch? If you had to pick one, well, 1101 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 1: before we get into that, we will answer that real quick. 1102 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 1: I gotta clean one thing up from the last segment. 1103 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 1: So pete, so I don't want Tom yelling at you 1104 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,640 Speaker 1: and I it was actually seventeen when we threw the pick. 1105 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 1: All they needed. All we needed was a field goal 1106 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 1: to senator overtime. They took a safety and then that's right, 1107 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 1: that's right, Yeah, so it was overtime. Kicked the field goal. Well, 1108 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 1: we just we run them the ball in first down 1109 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,360 Speaker 1: for five yards down to the flour So how dooult 1110 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 1: we running again? How we keep on running it? Do 1111 00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,880 Speaker 1: you think I think were in that year? We were 1112 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 1: number two? We have the number two rushing defense offense 1113 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL. What did Brunel throw for that? Because 1114 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 1: it was wet and nasty, I remember that we do. 1115 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 1: We had a seventeen seven lead going into the fourth quarter. 1116 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,440 Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, that might have started the whole 1117 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 1: real problem with Mark can cough because he called him 1118 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 1: out after that game. It was not a good moment. 1119 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 1: He called him out publicly. He called Brunelle out publicly, 1120 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,440 Speaker 1: where Brendel could have called him out publicly for call 1121 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 1: making the damn call. Yeah, that was that was the 1122 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 1: start of it. That's right, And uh, you're right, we 1123 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 1: were wrong. Sorry, Tom, But you still should have run 1124 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, okay, alright, I've got that taken care 1125 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 1: of from twenty three years ago. So how about the defense? 1126 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 1: The biggest issue yesterday? Yeah, those wounds don't heal. The 1127 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,840 Speaker 1: biggest defensive issue yesterday. If you have to pick one 1128 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 1: and fix it, how do you do it? Moving down 1129 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 1: the stretch? I mean, I think you gotta stop playing one. 1130 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 1: You have to simple buy things, make sure guys can 1131 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 1: play basket lined up, and limit your playing man as 1132 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,600 Speaker 1: much as possible. I mean, that's gonna fix it in 1133 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 1: the in the meantime. But the biggest issue JP, if 1134 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,840 Speaker 1: you want to really, the biggest issue on Sunday was 1135 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 1: the fact they can't rush the passer. I can't tell 1136 01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 1: you how many times there was a Cone or Jared Golf. 1137 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 1: When you watch the tape, you watch the tape, Tony, 1138 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 1: there it was just a cone. But how about every 1139 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 1: time of most and then he got and you know 1140 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 1: what it is, Even if there was coverage at times 1141 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,440 Speaker 1: down the field, he had every opportunity to check the 1142 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 1: ball down because he could go one, two, three, four 1143 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 1: and then check it down. There's no pass rush, there's 1144 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 1: no push, there's no pressure. He doesn't have to bail. 1145 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 1: And and so for me, it's pass rush. This league. 1146 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 1: You can have all the coverage you want. This league 1147 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 1: is defined by I don't care. You know, there's always 1148 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 1: been these new studies about well, coverage might be more 1149 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 1: important than pass rush. No it isn't, and no, no 1150 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,920 Speaker 1: football is the coverage ever more important than the pass rush. 1151 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 1: And so that's that's why I think they have to 1152 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 1: do something about that pass rush in the off season. 1153 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 1: As it is now, they're not gonna do anything to 1154 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:48,920 Speaker 1: change things now again, I would I would try Devin Lloyd, Tony. 1155 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,160 Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd's bigger than that kid that rushed the passer 1156 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 1: for the Lions yesterday. He's not as heavy or thick 1157 01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,240 Speaker 1: that gets thick, but he's six one or something and 1158 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 1: he's the only way he's listened to to thirty. I 1159 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 1: mean he's not a big guy. That kind of goes 1160 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 1: back to our point, right, Can you do that in 1161 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 1: the middle of the season though? Can you move him? Now? 1162 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 1: Let's go. All you do is say line up and 1163 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:15,080 Speaker 1: go go. That's easy to do. There's no assignment, your pass, rusture, go. 1164 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:20,640 Speaker 1: You can do that. Yeah. I don't disagree with I 1165 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,520 Speaker 1: don't think. I don't know if it's as easy in general, 1166 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 1: but better than not having him on the field and 1167 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 1: trying not to do anything with him. He does have 1168 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 1: something run. There was a play on Sunday where he 1169 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 1: actually made a nice play where you've chased out a 1170 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 1: guy in the hole and got off a block and 1171 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 1: made a play in the hole as a linebacker. But 1172 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,080 Speaker 1: I still think that speed is not being used because 1173 01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 1: his head spitted. Yep, I agree. Do you have it? 1174 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 1: We just kept it Real presented by a woodbridge by 1175 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 1: Robert Mundavi, Open up a winner today, Real Ingredients, Award 1176 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:54,520 Speaker 1: winning wine by Robert Mundavi, and um pete. Your case 1177 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,360 Speaker 1: has not arrived yet, right, I know, Tony's probably got 1178 01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 1: his all wrapped up and ready to give away his 1179 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 1: presence individual bottles for like everybody on the on his 1180 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 1: Christmas list. Hey, I can't tell you how happy I'm 1181 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,479 Speaker 1: to be around you this holiday season. Here's a gift. 1182 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:10,920 Speaker 1: I got it for free, but it looks like I 1183 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:18,560 Speaker 1: bought it. All the voters get one. He's done with that. 1184 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:28,480 Speaker 1: We're moving on. Come on, Pete, I'll tell you this. 1185 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,160 Speaker 1: It is not it's nice not even thinking about that 1186 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, but you gotta do now now it's 1187 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 1: Freend's time. No, no, no, I get that. I'm all 1188 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 1: about Fred. I'm glad it's not me for like six 1189 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,840 Speaker 1: years straight this time here all we that's like, all right, 1190 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 1: you're right, you're right. I just I just don't think 1191 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:51,160 Speaker 1: your case was tough because of of the short career. 1192 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 1: I don't understand why Fred's cases as tough. It is 1193 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 1: as it is, other than the fact that he played 1194 01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:01,200 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, and other than the fact that people it's 1195 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:05,200 Speaker 1: it's the Pro Bowls and all pros hand and a 1196 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,080 Speaker 1: certain coach used to yank him out on the goal 1197 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 1: line that it did not we'll come back. Social media 1198 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 1: questions and I know you guys are both following that 1199 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:21,320 Speaker 1: a little bit today. It was quite a scene on Twitter, 1200 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 1: It really was. It really was. We'll get just a 1201 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 1: little taste of it when we come back for social 1202 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:30,040 Speaker 1: media questions. We'll go around the league in a little 1203 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 1: bit as well. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars 1204 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:39,880 Speaker 1: Digital Network. Strain better when it happens train. But I 1205 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 1: think they had a simple game play over there. A 1206 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,560 Speaker 1: lot of playoffs upon deepense, a lot of play actions, 1207 01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, dincon ducks. Um, it was 1208 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 1: Ryans was pretty that had some politician stuff that we 1209 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 1: just got it up. But um, we gotta make our 1210 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 1: plays to get off the field when we need to. Um, 1211 01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,600 Speaker 1: have tighter coverages when we need to. I mean, whatever 1212 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 1: you draw up, if you don't execute them, if you 1213 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,960 Speaker 1: know when you're playing, not no matter. So I'd say 1214 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,400 Speaker 1: strain better for getting black. Uncle Black gets your ball, 1215 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,880 Speaker 1: you know, guy makes it, got your break, gets the 1216 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:16,280 Speaker 1: ball better. Look in the Jaguars middle linebacker fifteen total 1217 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:20,200 Speaker 1: tackles yesterday. He does lead the league in solo tackles 1218 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:24,720 Speaker 1: as well, after day's eleven solo tackle performance. Welcome back, 1219 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,480 Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Our. J P. Shadrick with CBS Sports 1220 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,520 Speaker 1: Senior writer Pete Briscoe and Pro Football Hall of Fame 1221 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,600 Speaker 1: left tackle Tony Boselli. He's by the way JP, real quick. 1222 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 1: He's the best right now. If you'd say who which 1223 01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,800 Speaker 1: player is playing the best on that defense, he's the one. 1224 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 1: When you agreet Tony yes, post consistent best yes, and 1225 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,600 Speaker 1: really started playing much better when he didn't have to 1226 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 1: line up guys. No, I agree. I mean, I think 1227 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:54,960 Speaker 1: the little cons has done a good job. They brought 1228 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,880 Speaker 1: him in here to lead the defense and be the 1229 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 1: tackling machine that he was in Atlanta, and that he's 1230 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 1: a solid, good player. He they've gotten back. They've got 1231 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 1: bang for their buck on him, unlike some of their 1232 01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:10,160 Speaker 1: other guys. Let's go to social media. It's been a 1233 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 1: busy day on Jaguars Twitter, as you might imagine, so salty, 1234 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 1: almost as salty as this program. We put out the 1235 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 1: cat signal earlier today. Here's the best we've come up with. 1236 01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,840 Speaker 1: Question number one at chapter nine, O four in the 1237 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,520 Speaker 1: court chats hundred thirty five million, three first rounders on 1238 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,520 Speaker 1: the defense. What's going on in the locker room for 1239 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 1: this defense not to stop the Lions once? I think 1240 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:39,040 Speaker 1: this is going to be a trend in this segment. Well, 1241 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,240 Speaker 1: I mean, we beat this to death. I mean, they they, 1242 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,680 Speaker 1: like we said, they invested a boatload of money on 1243 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,120 Speaker 1: that side of the ball and a bunch of draft capital, 1244 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,960 Speaker 1: and it's just for whatever reason, it's not working. When 1245 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 1: you can't rush the passer, I'm sorry. If you can't 1246 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 1: rush the passer in the NFL, you're not winning, period. 1247 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:55,720 Speaker 1: In the story, it's a passer and pass rusher league. 1248 01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,640 Speaker 1: You can talk all you want about running the ball 1249 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,320 Speaker 1: and playing good defense, run defense, everything else. You can't 1250 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,920 Speaker 1: rush the passer, You're not winning, period. So we just 1251 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 1: heard Luk in there, guys right and Tony like talking 1252 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,120 Speaker 1: about strain and get off blocks and make plays and 1253 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,400 Speaker 1: all that. I mean, is that is it a locker 1254 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:18,880 Speaker 1: room internal thing? Guys just not doing enough? Um? Are 1255 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:25,360 Speaker 1: they not doing enough? Don't? I mean, it's when you 1256 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:29,840 Speaker 1: say not doing enough, I don't. I guess my I 1257 01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,200 Speaker 1: guess where I would go with that. JP is and 1258 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,760 Speaker 1: I know what Lukan is saying, and it makes sense, 1259 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 1: but it's so it's so it's a combination. I think 1260 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,000 Speaker 1: what he's trying to say is guy's gonna make play. 1261 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 1: Like the coaches can only call so much. I mean, 1262 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:46,200 Speaker 1: then call defense. But at the end of the day, 1263 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 1: it's about execution, and you've got to go execute um 1264 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,880 Speaker 1: your assignments, and you gotta play fast and you gotta 1265 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,120 Speaker 1: you gotta win. I mean, I've said it before on 1266 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,560 Speaker 1: the on the show. At the end of the day, 1267 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,840 Speaker 1: football is about being the man in front of you too. 1268 01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,440 Speaker 1: It's not all schemes. You gotta have good schemes, you 1269 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,280 Speaker 1: gotta have good coaching yet, but it comes out of 1270 01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,480 Speaker 1: players making play and winning. And we don't win another 1271 01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,480 Speaker 1: and especially in the past rush the Tony One thing. 1272 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:15,360 Speaker 1: Though Roy Robertson, Harris and Fokasi looked like early in 1273 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:20,720 Speaker 1: the season they were gonna be dominant. Somewhere along the 1274 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:24,080 Speaker 1: way that changed for both of them. And I know 1275 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:29,960 Speaker 1: didn't Photocaci get hurt, he got hurt at but there, 1276 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 1: I mean, there were plays on Sunday and if you 1277 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,240 Speaker 1: watch the table, you know they were in the four 1278 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:36,840 Speaker 1: or five three or four or five yards off the 1279 01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,000 Speaker 1: book getting blown off the ball. I mean, they were 1280 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:44,000 Speaker 1: getting handled. And it's been that way for a while. 1281 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,240 Speaker 1: Remember remember Roy Robertson Harris what he did the Quentin 1282 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,759 Speaker 1: Nelson in that game and week was that Week two. 1283 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:56,120 Speaker 1: That guy hasn't been around since then. He had two 1284 01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 1: tackles for lost, two quarterback hits and three total tackles 1285 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,479 Speaker 1: that week. I don't know what's happened to those guys. 1286 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 1: And I thought they were gonna be we At one point, 1287 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,280 Speaker 1: you thought the interior of that defensive line was going 1288 01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 1: to be this the strength of that defense I did. 1289 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,200 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it, and it has not come 1290 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 1: to fruition. I mean you look at I mean, you 1291 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 1: look at the defense right now. They are past defense 1292 01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:31,519 Speaker 1: and about and rush defense, and so you know the 1293 01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,760 Speaker 1: middle of the pack. They're an average rush defense tee. 1294 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 1: But they're big problems. They can't get off the field. 1295 01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 1: They're bad on third down and and they can't depend 1296 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,200 Speaker 1: the past. And that goes to my point of you 1297 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,320 Speaker 1: gotta win and the way you stop the passes you 1298 01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,720 Speaker 1: win in the past. Rush, you pressure the quarterback, you 1299 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,040 Speaker 1: get him out of rhythm, you get him uncomfortable, and 1300 01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,800 Speaker 1: we don't do that. Look at that pass yards nine 1301 01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:56,120 Speaker 1: third down, twenty nine red zone. I mean, my gosh, 1302 01:09:56,200 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 1: points for game seven. It's it's a bad defense. Let's 1303 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:07,479 Speaker 1: move along. Next question on social media today yep at 1304 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,120 Speaker 1: Carson J and a bunch of numbers. How many players 1305 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 1: do we have that are top ten at their position 1306 01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,800 Speaker 1: in the league. There are certain positions that are a 1307 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,439 Speaker 1: critical need, but don't we have an overall lack of 1308 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,840 Speaker 1: top talent. So here's a good question at the top. 1309 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,320 Speaker 1: How many players on this team are top ten at 1310 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:32,640 Speaker 1: their position in the league. I have one one done? 1311 01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 1: Who Tony Christian Kirk. He's a top ten receiver in 1312 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:42,439 Speaker 1: the league. I think he's close. I don't get me wrong, 1313 01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:44,679 Speaker 1: I love him. I think he's he's lived. Talking about 1314 01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,679 Speaker 1: somebody who's lived up to the to the money. He's 1315 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,599 Speaker 1: lived up to it. So he's your right, he's close. 1316 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,640 Speaker 1: E t n would be close if you made it, 1317 01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,599 Speaker 1: if you looked at it at the running back position, 1318 01:10:54,640 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 1: he'd be close. Yeah, Larne Lawrence's only for Sunday would 1319 01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 1: be pushing fifteen to twelve. But top ten, they're the 1320 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,120 Speaker 1: only ones you can make. Okay, you know the right 1321 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 1: guard that they paid a boatload of money for and 1322 01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,320 Speaker 1: lived up to the expectations. Either. I'm sorry he's been Okay, 1323 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 1: he hadn't been dominant. There was a play on Sunday. 1324 01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:22,400 Speaker 1: Alee McNeil took him and smashed him. Do you remember 1325 01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,640 Speaker 1: that play Tony with his right arm and threw him 1326 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,880 Speaker 1: to the ground and made a play. I'm like, wait 1327 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,680 Speaker 1: a second, that's the guy that that's the guy they 1328 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,599 Speaker 1: played all that money for. That's that's one play. I don't, 1329 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:35,880 Speaker 1: I don't. Okay, it's been okay, he's been okay. I 1330 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,640 Speaker 1: would say that I would say there's two if I was, 1331 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean travising, TN is tenonally in rushing when it 1332 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,479 Speaker 1: comes to running running backs, and then Kirk. I think 1333 01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,960 Speaker 1: there's only two. Okay, let's spit it forward to next year. 1334 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:50,840 Speaker 1: How many of those same guys are gonna be top 1335 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,360 Speaker 1: Can you say we'll be top ten next year? The 1336 01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,280 Speaker 1: quarterback will be I'm sorry, I'm I'm on that train. 1337 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,519 Speaker 1: He'll be top ten next year. Et N will be 1338 01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 1: as well. Kirk probably would be in the conversation, how 1339 01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,320 Speaker 1: about anybody else? Anybody else? Do you see anybody else 1340 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:16,160 Speaker 1: any of the offensive lineman? Center? I guess potential to 1341 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:21,680 Speaker 1: be that, um, well, you'd like him to be, then 1342 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,519 Speaker 1: he's not. He's not. That you've come off that, you've 1343 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:30,200 Speaker 1: come off that you had him top five tackle before 1344 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:38,840 Speaker 1: you've come off that one. He's still he's still top half. Um, 1345 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,400 Speaker 1: he used to be five, and then it was ten, 1346 01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,400 Speaker 1: and now it's top sixteen. The hard part is you 1347 01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,599 Speaker 1: look at you probably take both those tackles on Detroit 1348 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:53,639 Speaker 1: before any of our guys. Yeah, Decker is better than him, 1349 01:12:53,720 --> 01:13:00,320 Speaker 1: isn't he? Yeah? Thank you? I mean so yeah, you 1350 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:06,200 Speaker 1: know you know I'm biased my dag war tackles. Um, Yeah, 1351 01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:09,439 Speaker 1: there's me next year. Um e tn, I think we'll be. 1352 01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,200 Speaker 1: I think Trevor Lawrence will be. I think kirk Um 1353 01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,479 Speaker 1: has a chance. Maybe Ridley really comes back to the 1354 01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:18,479 Speaker 1: player he was before he got out for two years. Um, 1355 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,360 Speaker 1: Lucans probably, I think Lucan right now you would say 1356 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,320 Speaker 1: the top ten middle linebacker, side linebacker. Yeah, he's in 1357 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,719 Speaker 1: that group. Here by the way, just when we're talking 1358 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:35,799 Speaker 1: about the left tackle from former Jaguar Leon Searcy, exactly 1359 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,280 Speaker 1: the reason why you don't pay an average talent elite 1360 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,760 Speaker 1: money to protect the face of a franchise quarterback. Season 1361 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:51,519 Speaker 1: is over. Yea coming in hot. Let's move along social 1362 01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:56,880 Speaker 1: media continuing. Next question, here we go at Leland Merritt. 1363 01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,240 Speaker 1: How do we fix our pass rush? I'm not sure 1364 01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 1: how much more we can invest in it. Nothing seems 1365 01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:05,040 Speaker 1: to be working. We've talked this one to death today, 1366 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,840 Speaker 1: but it is the question on a lot of people's mind. 1367 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:12,160 Speaker 1: Here's something I want to ask, who is the last 1368 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:19,240 Speaker 1: twitchy pass rusher the Jacksonville Jaguars have had Wow in Goway? Right, 1369 01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:23,800 Speaker 1: You're right, he was, but he couldn't couldn't play the run. Well, 1370 01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 1: Campbell was a pass rusher. But but but I'm from 1371 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,680 Speaker 1: the edge, I'm talking from the outside. I'm talking about well, 1372 01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the history of the France Brackins. I mean, 1373 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:41,519 Speaker 1: and think about the pass rush bus that they've had, 1374 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:47,320 Speaker 1: that's been a position of major bust for the organization. 1375 01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:55,479 Speaker 1: You talk about Harvey uh Chase on Um, would you 1376 01:14:55,520 --> 01:15:01,120 Speaker 1: consider a fouler of bus? Yes, for them he was 1377 01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,240 Speaker 1: he still playing, yeah, But for them he was a 1378 01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,320 Speaker 1: bus where he was taking he should be. He should 1379 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,320 Speaker 1: have been a dominant pass rusher for them. I mean, 1380 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:14,280 Speaker 1: let's not forget he was taking overall. How many top 1381 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:20,000 Speaker 1: ten pass rushers have they taken in their history? A lot? Yeah, 1382 01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:25,599 Speaker 1: top ten, yeah, I think or nine? What was Jason 1383 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,920 Speaker 1: wasn't top ten though, Yeah, but still, I mean that's 1384 01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,240 Speaker 1: a lot of draft capital in the position that still 1385 01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:39,120 Speaker 1: isn't fixed. Correct your correct, Pete, you are correct. Let's 1386 01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:44,559 Speaker 1: move along another social media question. Okay, at Dr Cliffy, 1387 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:48,160 Speaker 1: no question, really can just can someone say something to 1388 01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,679 Speaker 1: make me not feel like this anymore? Pete and Tony 1389 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:56,960 Speaker 1: can't say sixteen even though that's the answer. Well, that's 1390 01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:03,840 Speaker 1: that answer, that's the answer. It's the only answer. I mean. 1391 01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,599 Speaker 1: And let's defend the head coach, because I do think 1392 01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,280 Speaker 1: he's a good head coach, and I think he's gonna 1393 01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:11,639 Speaker 1: be a really good head coach in Jacksonville. I mean, 1394 01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,120 Speaker 1: did I love the two point play? Of course I 1395 01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:21,600 Speaker 1: didn't go within two scores? You hadn't do it football, 1396 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:26,640 Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, more lateral and we would have had 1397 01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:32,120 Speaker 1: a goofy play. And he come on that Jacksonville special, 1398 01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:37,200 Speaker 1: that's his version of the Phillies Special. But play football, 1399 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:42,960 Speaker 1: Come on, okay, if you really love that play, you 1400 01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,200 Speaker 1: really love that play, you're saving you save it for 1401 01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:52,200 Speaker 1: two point play when you're down sixteen. Now it's tape, okay, 1402 01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,920 Speaker 1: but what you pull that play out? Once you see 1403 01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,320 Speaker 1: you you see where I'm coming from with that play? 1404 01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:01,040 Speaker 1: Am I wrong about that? I think it's fine, Pete. 1405 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:07,840 Speaker 1: I think you're overdropping. I think. Okay, that play is 1406 01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,360 Speaker 1: so great and you're gonna use it as a special play. 1407 01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:14,639 Speaker 1: Do you use when you're down sixteen? Well, yeah, because 1408 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:18,000 Speaker 1: if you if you score there and you get a stop, now, yeah, 1409 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:21,040 Speaker 1: the game wasn't over, Pete. If they get a stop 1410 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:24,800 Speaker 1: or two, you can't even say it with a straight face. 1411 01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:32,000 Speaker 1: Look at him, he's balting your bout. You're can you 1412 01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,240 Speaker 1: know what's funny? I can tell you agree with me, 1413 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:40,240 Speaker 1: and JP's gotta jump in to save it. Let's I 1414 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,560 Speaker 1: think you're being a little bit overly critical. Yeah I 1415 01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,800 Speaker 1: agree with that. Okay, I'm a big Okay, I say 1416 01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,519 Speaker 1: it for every coach just play football. I get it. 1417 01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:49,040 Speaker 1: Once in a while you come up with your gimmick play. 1418 01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,320 Speaker 1: But if you're gonna save that gimmick play, you don't 1419 01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:54,559 Speaker 1: use it when you're down sixteen. Well, if you don't 1420 01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,400 Speaker 1: use it, then you might not get to it, Pete. 1421 01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,479 Speaker 1: They might use this. Just get in the game. You 1422 01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:06,360 Speaker 1: need it right there. They can use it again later. 1423 01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:09,679 Speaker 1: He says, we can come it again later, talking about 1424 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,799 Speaker 1: who says they can't use it again. Okay, well listen, 1425 01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:15,640 Speaker 1: first of all, I'm gonna make a motion. Stop the conversation, 1426 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:20,200 Speaker 1: why are we feeding the beach? But he is he is, uh, 1427 01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:24,880 Speaker 1: he is, Yeah, I don't agree. The majority of fans 1428 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:28,320 Speaker 1: would agree with me too, right now. They would agree 1429 01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,559 Speaker 1: with anything against the Jaguars after that performance yesterday. Look, 1430 01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,840 Speaker 1: I don't love to play, period, but if you're gonna 1431 01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,520 Speaker 1: have a play like that, use it in this situation 1432 01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,280 Speaker 1: where it's gonna matter. It was never gonna matter in 1433 01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,000 Speaker 1: that situation. They got them within two scores. Let's move 1434 01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:47,240 Speaker 1: along to social media question. The next one at Richmond Murader, 1435 01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,080 Speaker 1: I love the show is wondering what Tony and Pizzas 1436 01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,920 Speaker 1: opinions were on Cam Robinson, more specifically on the hit 1437 01:18:52,960 --> 01:19:01,040 Speaker 1: on Lawrence. I mean Cam Robinson saw the solid left tackle. 1438 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,000 Speaker 1: I think I've always said I think he has the 1439 01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,400 Speaker 1: potential to be a top five left tackle because of 1440 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,960 Speaker 1: his skill set and his talent and athletic ability and 1441 01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:11,040 Speaker 1: everything else. But he has some bad habits and and 1442 01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,240 Speaker 1: we've talked about him before and one of his bad 1443 01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,479 Speaker 1: habits is he drops that back foot at times. And 1444 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,679 Speaker 1: he did it there. Then you get a soft edge 1445 01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,160 Speaker 1: and he missed. He missed on the punch, and you 1446 01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,600 Speaker 1: know a combination of some bad footwork and missing on 1447 01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,800 Speaker 1: the punch leads to the quarterback getting hit. I don't 1448 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:31,840 Speaker 1: blame Cam Robinson for you know, possible ugly injury that, 1449 01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,560 Speaker 1: thank goodness, did not happen. It's football. Cam Robinson was 1450 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,479 Speaker 1: not trying to get Trevor Lawrence hurt. Um, the other 1451 01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,840 Speaker 1: guy wasn't trying to hurt Trevor Lawrence. It happens. Um, 1452 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,759 Speaker 1: Guys get rolled up on, Guys get hit low, guys 1453 01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,600 Speaker 1: get hit high, and guys get hurt in this game. Um, 1454 01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm more considered. I'd be more concerned about Cam Robinson 1455 01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,120 Speaker 1: breaking some bad habits because he's a day and good 1456 01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:54,920 Speaker 1: football player, or he has the ability to be really 1457 01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,960 Speaker 1: really good football players. And he's a solid football player 1458 01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,400 Speaker 1: at left tackle. And I hope that he continues to 1459 01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,760 Speaker 1: work to work on his technique and continue to get 1460 01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,120 Speaker 1: better because are going to be our left tackle for 1461 01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:09,120 Speaker 1: a while here and he's an important piece of the puzzle. 1462 01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,840 Speaker 1: And he and he hasn't played poor, you know, let's 1463 01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,559 Speaker 1: not say that he's been he's been solid this season. 1464 01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:18,920 Speaker 1: He's been a solid tackle. Um. But again, it's a 1465 01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,160 Speaker 1: lot of money for a solid tackle, so you gotta 1466 01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,000 Speaker 1: look at it from that standpoint. But if you don't 1467 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,880 Speaker 1: have him, what do you have there? Walker Little? Let 1468 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,479 Speaker 1: me come on, Well, you drafted him, and you drafted 1469 01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:31,920 Speaker 1: him in the left tackle with the hope that he 1470 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:33,680 Speaker 1: could be one of the two starting tackles, and he 1471 01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,639 Speaker 1: hasn't been able to win the job at either one. 1472 01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:40,040 Speaker 1: And he hasn't. And again we go back and he hasn't, 1473 01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,640 Speaker 1: you know, and then you're starting left guard gets You 1474 01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:46,000 Speaker 1: would think if you had a stud tackle couldn't be 1475 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:47,599 Speaker 1: at the other ones. He'd be able to shift down 1476 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,960 Speaker 1: and play guard and be a big body in there. 1477 01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,000 Speaker 1: And he can't beat up Shatley chat he's a better 1478 01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:55,360 Speaker 1: guard than him right now as well? We move along 1479 01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:59,640 Speaker 1: a couple more questions remaining from Twitter today, and this 1480 01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,280 Speaker 1: is a d T W D two. What does it 1481 01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,280 Speaker 1: always feel like this team takes a big step forward 1482 01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,880 Speaker 1: and then almost immediately after it takes two steps back. 1483 01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:10,360 Speaker 1: What's it going to take to consistently turn this around? 1484 01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,679 Speaker 1: They're a young team, young team, it's a young team. 1485 01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:17,960 Speaker 1: That's that's what happens with young teams. They know, you know, 1486 01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:21,600 Speaker 1: and they don't know how to win consistently. They know 1487 01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:23,880 Speaker 1: how to win at times, and then they don't know 1488 01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,080 Speaker 1: how to stay on and even they get too high 1489 01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:27,479 Speaker 1: and then you got it too low and then you 1490 01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:29,640 Speaker 1: gotta come back up again. That's what young teams do. 1491 01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,800 Speaker 1: It's not just Jackson yet. No, it's a young team, 1492 01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,719 Speaker 1: and I think it's a team that has some talent 1493 01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:39,799 Speaker 1: deficiencies at certain positions that are critical rushing the passer 1494 01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:48,120 Speaker 1: and covering the past. That's a combination along one question. 1495 01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,400 Speaker 1: If they were good old defense, they're good enough on 1496 01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,960 Speaker 1: offense to move the ball and be If they were, 1497 01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:54,920 Speaker 1: like I had a top ten defense, they'd be a 1498 01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,040 Speaker 1: playoff team. But well, I mean I think that they're 1499 01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,240 Speaker 1: the top fifteen defense, they might be put up team. Yeah, 1500 01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:05,520 Speaker 1: good point. Our final question now from social media today 1501 01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:08,240 Speaker 1: at coach Ripley one. After playing their worst game of 1502 01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,000 Speaker 1: the year and now a potential quarterback injury or not 1503 01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:14,439 Speaker 1: atent at least, how do the Jaguars rebound against an 1504 01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,519 Speaker 1: opponent who has made them look as bad as anyone 1505 01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,799 Speaker 1: over the years and the Jags haven't won in Tennessee 1506 01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:23,880 Speaker 1: since So yeah, this is to rebound against the Titans. 1507 01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:29,479 Speaker 1: That's uh, that's quite a task. Well, I think Trevor 1508 01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:32,479 Speaker 1: will be fine. I think Trevor will play. I think 1509 01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,960 Speaker 1: you will not notice anything major about his performance from 1510 01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:39,599 Speaker 1: the foot and co injury that Doug talk about. Um 1511 01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,479 Speaker 1: big question is can they stop there Denry, because that 1512 01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,160 Speaker 1: has been the Achilles heal on this team ever since 1513 01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,800 Speaker 1: Derrick Kenry's been there. He has run rough shot on 1514 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,040 Speaker 1: this Jaguars defense. And so that's the big challenge. You 1515 01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,400 Speaker 1: have to tackle him and you have to minimize his 1516 01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:55,120 Speaker 1: impact in the game and forced Ryan Tannehill to meet 1517 01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:59,439 Speaker 1: you him. I mean, look, go show that you're you know. 1518 01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,599 Speaker 1: The one thing is that you know the Titans. They're bully, 1519 01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,880 Speaker 1: They're tough, they're physical. Go bully them for once, Go 1520 01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:09,000 Speaker 1: take go, Pete, push them around. Could they have the 1521 01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:14,599 Speaker 1: personnel to do that, Pete. No, Even their offense isn't 1522 01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,280 Speaker 1: a bully offense. It's it's you know what I mean. 1523 01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,479 Speaker 1: They get them out in space, they run et N 1524 01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:24,400 Speaker 1: and space, they spread people out, they missed direction and 1525 01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,920 Speaker 1: uh yeah, so no, they're not a bully team. M hm. 1526 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,559 Speaker 1: So but to your point, four of the last six 1527 01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,320 Speaker 1: games that Henry's played, he's gone over a hundred yards 1528 01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,880 Speaker 1: on the ground against the Jaguars so and I think 1529 01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,400 Speaker 1: I think a couple of those games. JP has been 1530 01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:46,800 Speaker 1: over two hundred correct, that correct yard games against them. 1531 01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:50,040 Speaker 1: That's correct, that is correct. And you can see you 1532 01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,160 Speaker 1: can just close your eyes and envision all those guys 1533 01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,320 Speaker 1: getting shaken off of him as he's running down the 1534 01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:59,000 Speaker 1: sideline like he's eight and their fourteen. You know, boom, 1535 01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:03,080 Speaker 1: boom boom. Somebody was twice. I tell you, I'll tell 1536 01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,360 Speaker 1: you one thing though he hasn't run like that the 1537 01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,760 Speaker 1: last two weeks, is he hasn't. He can't get his 1538 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:09,840 Speaker 1: feet going, you know how he is. If he if 1539 01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:13,280 Speaker 1: feet start chopping, he's he has problems. And they've been 1540 01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:14,840 Speaker 1: in the backfield. That's what you gotta do. You gotta 1541 01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,160 Speaker 1: get penetration against him. And he's not the same guy 1542 01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:21,519 Speaker 1: they have. At the social media, Fanatics fan questions are in. 1543 01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:24,200 Speaker 1: Jaguars fans are gearing up and saving big at fanatics 1544 01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,640 Speaker 1: dot com. Shop today and rep your Jack's gear on 1545 01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:32,120 Speaker 1: game day and every day. Fanatics dot Com officially licensed everything. 1546 01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,479 Speaker 1: We'll go around the NFL, the a f C South 1547 01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,760 Speaker 1: as well. When we returned, It's Jaguars Happy Hour on 1548 01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:47,639 Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars happy hour 1549 01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,320 Speaker 1: coming down the home stretch on Monday. After a forty 1550 01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:54,640 Speaker 1: to fourteen loss to the Lions in Week thirteen, Jaguars 1551 01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,439 Speaker 1: had to Tennessee this week to face the Tennessee Titans. 1552 01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:00,839 Speaker 1: Let's take a look around the a f See South 1553 01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:06,960 Speaker 1: games from yesterday in the division. You know, and I 1554 01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,439 Speaker 1: was right there for the taking for the Jaguars. That's 1555 01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,439 Speaker 1: the frustrating part of this thing. The Browns had three 1556 01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:17,120 Speaker 1: return touchdowns, two on defense, one on special teams to 1557 01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:22,479 Speaker 1: beat the Texans and Deshaun Watson's debut with the Cleveland Browns. 1558 01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:25,760 Speaker 1: That was in Houston, the Eagles and the Titans. This 1559 01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:27,519 Speaker 1: is the one we were all watching and A J. 1560 01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:33,160 Speaker 1: Brown had a huge day against his former team. Hurts 1561 01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:37,200 Speaker 1: back pumps, looks he is photoga for A J. Brown 1562 01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:42,360 Speaker 1: who has it took at a score? J Brown tuck 1563 01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:46,680 Speaker 1: it away from play. Avery had scored a sucker touchdown 1564 01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,000 Speaker 1: of the game. I'm telling you, they gotta get these 1565 01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,680 Speaker 1: boys in the weight rooms. A J. Brown the ball is. 1566 01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,920 Speaker 1: This is really good coverage by Avery. But A J. 1567 01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,960 Speaker 1: Brown's cool and calm and he just reached us over 1568 01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,800 Speaker 1: his back. Take a football away. He certainly did this. 1569 01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,519 Speaker 1: Merdal reason might quick on sports radio ninety four w 1570 01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,439 Speaker 1: i P in Philadelphia and one a day for the 1571 01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:12,960 Speaker 1: wide receiver turned Eagle. Like I said earlier watching that tape, man, 1572 01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:14,880 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, the Eagles did whatever they want 1573 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,760 Speaker 1: to do on offense, and you know, hurted guys open 1574 01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,080 Speaker 1: all day long. And on the other side of the ball, 1575 01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:23,639 Speaker 1: they just dominated him up front. Bad performance by the Titans. 1576 01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,040 Speaker 1: The Cold hung around for a little bit, but then 1577 01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:30,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys blasted him the second half. After I went 1578 01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,599 Speaker 1: to bed, it was fifty four to nineteen. My gosh, 1579 01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:38,240 Speaker 1: it was at nothing in the fourth quarter. Unreal, and 1580 01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:44,599 Speaker 1: they just I fell asleep. They kept turning it over. 1581 01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:48,320 Speaker 1: They had a pick six, a fun a return. I mean, 1582 01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,439 Speaker 1: it was just, oh, it was so bad. It just 1583 01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,120 Speaker 1: kept happening. And you I mean, the Cold hung around 1584 01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:54,679 Speaker 1: in that game for a while, put a little scare 1585 01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:56,880 Speaker 1: into him, but that was you know, they just once 1586 01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:01,320 Speaker 1: it started, it didn't stop. Cold Stick. Let's take a 1587 01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:04,480 Speaker 1: look at the AFC South standings and you'll find the 1588 01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,599 Speaker 1: Colts still in second place. Tennessee at seven and five, 1589 01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:11,160 Speaker 1: Indy four eight and one, Jacksonville fort eight, Houston one, 1590 01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:14,360 Speaker 1: Tennant one, and there you go, five to go. And 1591 01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:17,240 Speaker 1: that's why it was such a missed opportunity, of course yesterday, 1592 01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,519 Speaker 1: because the Jacks could have been within two games with 1593 01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:23,160 Speaker 1: five to play. There's still in it, technically three games 1594 01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:26,320 Speaker 1: back with five to play. You know, if it wasn't 1595 01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,439 Speaker 1: for the NFC South to be the worst division in 1596 01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:32,320 Speaker 1: the NFL, it still might be. I think it's I 1597 01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:35,080 Speaker 1: actually think it's worth Yeah, it is worse, even though 1598 01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:36,679 Speaker 1: they don't have a team with the winning record. It's 1599 01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:41,680 Speaker 1: worse because Tampa Bay is probably better than Tennessee, or 1600 01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:45,439 Speaker 1: as good as the Colts and the Saints, or the 1601 01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:48,120 Speaker 1: Colts and the Falcons. They're same, Jackson, all the there are. 1602 01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:51,000 Speaker 1: It probably is worse because the Texans are worse than 1603 01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:56,160 Speaker 1: the Panthers. Not a much, but they're worse. Let's take 1604 01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,800 Speaker 1: a look at some other games. Yeah, the Panthers there 1605 01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:05,160 Speaker 1: are lot worse. Yeah, you're right, it's the worst division 1606 01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:09,519 Speaker 1: of football. Didn't they drop Banker today? Yeah? They cut Baker. 1607 01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,040 Speaker 1: The Texans are one of two teams that have been 1608 01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,840 Speaker 1: officially eliminated from the playoffs. Can you name the other? 1609 01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,760 Speaker 1: Let me see the top of my hand. It's a 1610 01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:25,720 Speaker 1: good question. I've got I've got it. I think I've 1611 01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:29,000 Speaker 1: got it. I think it's gonna be our first radio 1612 01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:32,439 Speaker 1: hit coming up here as the Packers can't lose at 1613 01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:38,720 Speaker 1: Soldier Field apparently, Yeah it is Chicago Bears from the playoffs. 1614 01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:41,320 Speaker 1: We'll get to that call coming up in just a moment. 1615 01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:47,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, the Bears, the Bears a route goodbye. I 1616 01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,479 Speaker 1: guess we're not getting the call from Yeah, I've found 1617 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:52,000 Speaker 1: that up. Yeah, that's that's not gonna work out right now. 1618 01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:56,759 Speaker 1: But Calibama they're there and Roger for the touch stock 1619 01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:00,120 Speaker 1: that's pretty much it. Good job, way to go. I 1620 01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,960 Speaker 1: remember Wayne Larvy when used to do Colorado football games 1621 01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:07,639 Speaker 1: way back in the day about that JP's got nothing 1622 01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:10,120 Speaker 1: for us. Does he tell me no, No, I've I've lost, 1623 01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:14,519 Speaker 1: I've lost. By the way, the Packers are still alive barely. 1624 01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,759 Speaker 1: Look at how many teams. Look at all the teams 1625 01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:21,720 Speaker 1: that are barely alive, like Jacksonville barely alive, and the 1626 01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:25,719 Speaker 1: whole South barely alive, and the other South NFC South. 1627 01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:30,479 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just there's some bad teams. Packers beat 1628 01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:33,240 Speaker 1: the Bears by the way eight nineteen. That was a 1629 01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:36,400 Speaker 1: Gayr Alexander interception. We were going to hear from Layne 1630 01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:39,439 Speaker 1: Larervy on the Packers radio network vikings over the Jets 1631 01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:45,280 Speaker 1: twenty two, Commanders and Giants tied twenty twenty after overtime 1632 01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:49,600 Speaker 1: there and the Seahawks and the Rams. The Seahawks go 1633 01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:53,680 Speaker 1: ahead late. Gene takes the snap Horman rush, but a 1634 01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:59,280 Speaker 1: half roll flows back in signed art cut down Hawks, 1635 01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:05,240 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Good? DK met Chad Ramsey was 1636 01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,160 Speaker 1: all over him. T K put some big myths up 1637 01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:11,679 Speaker 1: and says that ball is mine and the Seahawks take 1638 01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:17,679 Speaker 1: the lead. Three. What a dark thrown by Geno Smith. 1639 01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:20,600 Speaker 1: I love that it was a matchup between d K 1640 01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:24,679 Speaker 1: and Jalen Ramsey because you have to say Jalen Ramsey 1641 01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,400 Speaker 1: had him covered, but he was not able to keep 1642 01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:31,240 Speaker 1: DK from making the catch. Steve Rabel and Dave Wyman 1643 01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:35,120 Speaker 1: on Seahawks broadcasting over Jalen about that. Yeah, I mean 1644 01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:36,639 Speaker 1: it was good coverage he used to make the play. 1645 01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:38,600 Speaker 1: Couldn't get the play on the ball. But here's the 1646 01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:42,400 Speaker 1: other thing. Gino Smith leads the NFL and completion percentage. 1647 01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:46,280 Speaker 1: Gino Smith is fourth in touchdowns. Gino Smith is fifth 1648 01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,960 Speaker 1: in yards. Pete Carroll has the last laugh. I mean, 1649 01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:52,519 Speaker 1: you're talking about you're talking about a guy who, uh 1650 01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,439 Speaker 1: who let Russell Wilson go and everybody killed him for it. 1651 01:30:55,439 --> 01:31:02,559 Speaker 1: And Russell Wilson's terrible right now? Uh yeah, not very good. 1652 01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:07,479 Speaker 1: So Pete, right now, the season ended today, we would 1653 01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:09,759 Speaker 1: have the Jags of the fifth pick in the draft. 1654 01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:13,960 Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait a minute, Tony, this way too early. 1655 01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,680 Speaker 1: The Jags are still alive. What are you talking about? Right? 1656 01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:20,880 Speaker 1: I thought we had to bring that up because guests 1657 01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,759 Speaker 1: who would have the third and fourth picks. Two teams 1658 01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:27,600 Speaker 1: that traded away those picks for quarterbacks, the Rams and 1659 01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:35,759 Speaker 1: the Broncos. It's incredible. It's incredible. I mean, is Nthangel 1660 01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:40,880 Speaker 1: Hackett make it the next year? Pete? No, I don't 1661 01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,519 Speaker 1: think he does. Let me ask you this, what about 1662 01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:46,600 Speaker 1: you watch golf on Sunday? If you're the Lions and 1663 01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:51,639 Speaker 1: you have that pick, do you draft a quarterback? Yes? Yeah, 1664 01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:55,400 Speaker 1: you have to, right, you have to. I would I 1665 01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:57,559 Speaker 1: would draft the quarterback. I don't know who's out there, 1666 01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:00,200 Speaker 1: but I think it's a pretty deep quarterback draft. It's 1667 01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:05,280 Speaker 1: not great quarterback class though. Well, then if I would 1668 01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:07,640 Speaker 1: only then I wouldn't draft one. I'd only draft one 1669 01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:09,840 Speaker 1: if I felt like he was a franchise guy, and 1670 01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,160 Speaker 1: I would draft them and tell him, tell him and 1671 01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,040 Speaker 1: his agent, you're not playing no matter what this year. 1672 01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:18,240 Speaker 1: There's nothing you can do to win the job. And 1673 01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:20,479 Speaker 1: I would say, and I tell Golf and his agent, 1674 01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:23,280 Speaker 1: it's your job, because I think the Lions with Golf 1675 01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:26,320 Speaker 1: next year have a chance to be a playoffs team. 1676 01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,880 Speaker 1: I agree. So you handle it like the Chiefs did 1677 01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:31,720 Speaker 1: when Alex Smith was there, the same thing that the 1678 01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:34,120 Speaker 1: Bengals did when they drafted Carson Palmer back in the 1679 01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:37,160 Speaker 1: year year ago. So that's what I would do. Forty 1680 01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:41,000 Speaker 1: Niners over the Dolphins three seventeen. Garoppolo has done for 1681 01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,839 Speaker 1: the year. Though for San fran that was bad because 1682 01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:47,479 Speaker 1: they were rolling. They were going to get on a roll, 1683 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:51,280 Speaker 1: and now they have Mr. Irrelevant starting at quarterback. He 1684 01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:54,439 Speaker 1: was the last pick in the draft, Rock Party, and 1685 01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:57,760 Speaker 1: you know what, he played well and Kyle Shanahan will 1686 01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:02,160 Speaker 1: make it easy on him to play quarterback. So give 1687 01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:05,240 Speaker 1: me a little background of Rock Party. Brock Purty is 1688 01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:10,920 Speaker 1: his parents. His mother is um my wife, some of 1689 01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,719 Speaker 1: the one of her best friends growing up So brock 1690 01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:17,040 Speaker 1: Party's grandparents are my my in law's best friends growing up. 1691 01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:21,400 Speaker 1: He grew up you know. Is he from Arizona though, 1692 01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:26,479 Speaker 1: So his parents moved to Arizona from southern California before 1693 01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:28,160 Speaker 1: he was born, So he grew up in Arizona. But 1694 01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:32,439 Speaker 1: my Angie, my wife grew up with his mom, like, like, 1695 01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:36,000 Speaker 1: that's very close and their parents. Yeah, and uh, my 1696 01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:40,200 Speaker 1: in laws are still very close with Brock brock Party's grandparents. 1697 01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:45,799 Speaker 1: So my wife was very excited that brock Purty played 1698 01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,519 Speaker 1: well and got to you know, and had success. So 1699 01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:51,920 Speaker 1: it's a great story. I read somewhere Pete and maybe 1700 01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:57,080 Speaker 1: he can. I think this is right. First uh, first quarterback, 1701 01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:01,240 Speaker 1: first player to be Mr. Element, last player pick to 1702 01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:06,320 Speaker 1: ever complete a pass. Yes, Chad Kelly played for a 1703 01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:09,080 Speaker 1: snap but never threw one, and now he plays in Canada. 1704 01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:13,280 Speaker 1: Remember him the kid from uh But yeah, it's a 1705 01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:16,120 Speaker 1: great story and and the only problem I had with 1706 01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,519 Speaker 1: it the kid grew up in Arizona and he didn't 1707 01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:22,400 Speaker 1: go to Sue. That's the only problem I have with Maybe. 1708 01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,679 Speaker 1: I don't think they recruited him. I think he uh 1709 01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:28,400 Speaker 1: if I remember right, the scholarship, That's why brother. He's 1710 01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:31,479 Speaker 1: got a brother that plays at Nebraska now too. Yeah 1711 01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:34,200 Speaker 1: who got he started at Florida State and then transferred 1712 01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:37,200 Speaker 1: to Nebraska. Yeah, it's it's it's cool story. You know 1713 01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:40,280 Speaker 1: what he played, Well, you gotta give him credit. Well, 1714 01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,160 Speaker 1: if you go back and watch him at Iowa State 1715 01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:46,280 Speaker 1: and I followed him, he's one of the most competitive 1716 01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:48,519 Speaker 1: kids you've ever seen, because like, there will be no moment, 1717 01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:50,599 Speaker 1: there will be no moment that's too big for him. 1718 01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:52,960 Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch him against you know he 1719 01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:58,160 Speaker 1: plays next week Tom Brady. Yeah, that's interesting. Will be 1720 01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:02,360 Speaker 1: like I mean, he's limited, I mean s strength, but 1721 01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:06,679 Speaker 1: he's a he's a smart kid and he is and 1722 01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:08,720 Speaker 1: like you said, Kyl Shannah Hand will put him in 1723 01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:12,560 Speaker 1: positions with that defense is defense is so good, Like 1724 01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,400 Speaker 1: just don't turn it over football, he said. His comment 1725 01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:18,240 Speaker 1: today or yesterday was he's been playing football longer than 1726 01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:23,800 Speaker 1: I've been alive. It makes true. Bengals over the Chiefs 1727 01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:26,680 Speaker 1: and the Raiders over the Charges. Quick look at the 1728 01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:32,639 Speaker 1: a f C playoff picture through Sunday the Vision Leaders, Bills, Chiefs, Ravens, Titans. 1729 01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:35,920 Speaker 1: Wild card today would be Bengals, Dolphins, Jets, there's a 1730 01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:39,200 Speaker 1: handful of teams in the hunt. In the NFC, I 1731 01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:41,400 Speaker 1: don't see the Jaguars on that thing any there. They're 1732 01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:42,800 Speaker 1: not on. I didn't put him on. I didn't have 1733 01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:47,840 Speaker 1: enough room. Um the NFC, Philly, Minnesota, San Franz, Tampa, 1734 01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:52,240 Speaker 1: Bay one through four, Division Leaders, Wild Card, Cowboys, Giants, Seahawks, 1735 01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:55,240 Speaker 1: handful of teams and the hunt. There. There is one 1736 01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:58,080 Speaker 1: more game left, and it's Monday Night football. It's a 1737 01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:01,120 Speaker 1: battle and the putrid NFC South Andy Dalton and the 1738 01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,600 Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints at fort eight had to Tampa to 1739 01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:06,439 Speaker 1: face Tom Brady and the somehow first place Tampa Bay 1740 01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:10,120 Speaker 1: Buccaneers had five and six. Who you got fire the Cannons. 1741 01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:13,880 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be close. I think Tampa will whim, 1742 01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:16,599 Speaker 1: but I think something about New Orleans that always gets 1743 01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:20,120 Speaker 1: underneath Tom tom Brady's skin. They play him tough, they 1744 01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:22,679 Speaker 1: shut him out in Tampa last year. I think it's close, 1745 01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:26,559 Speaker 1: but I'll take Tampa by a smidge smidge well, and 1746 01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:30,880 Speaker 1: Tampa just can't score points offensively. I understand it well. 1747 01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:33,360 Speaker 1: I mean last week they had the running back average 1748 01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:35,320 Speaker 1: almost six yards to carry. They didn't give them the ball. 1749 01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:38,519 Speaker 1: He we had like ten carries. I don't know what 1750 01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:42,400 Speaker 1: they do. Firon call some runs. Alright, guys, have a 1751 01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:47,120 Speaker 1: great one. Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli. An eventful program, I'd 1752 01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:51,320 Speaker 1: say on this Monday after forty fourteen loss to the Lions, 1753 01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:55,040 Speaker 1: Joe Fortunato and audio Brent Reaver on the video for 1754 01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:57,760 Speaker 1: everyone involved, I'm J. P. Shadrick will catch you next time. 1755 01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,559 Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars did Does that work?