WEBVTT - Midweek Mail Bag 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:14.160 Hi, this is Chase Utley and this is the Phillies Show. 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:21.440 Hi, everybody, Welcome to the Philly Show. Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:26.000 Jim Salisbury, Todds A lucky It's Wednesday, August seventh, twenty 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:29.720 twenty four. The Phillies have won two out of their 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:34.560 last three games. They won Tuesday night in Los Angeles. Guys, tonight, 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.279 the Phillies have an opportunity Wednesday night to win their 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:42.960 first series since they swept the Dodgers at home last month. 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:45.240 They've lost six straight series. They've been playing a little 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:49.760 bit better. They've been getting some hits, they've been pitching 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.280 a little bit better. The bullpen locked it down last night. 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:57.000 So some encouraging signs out in La La. Of course, 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:59.639 you see a lot of people. Ruby, you saw Chase 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.440 Utley was at the ballpark yesterday. Greg Dobbs has been 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:05.280 at the ballpark. It's aw Randy Wolf, Mike Leeber thought 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:09.840 might be dropping by. I've heard so some some improvement, 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:13.640 some signs of life from the Phillies. That's been. That's 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:17.319 been a nice change of pace for for for everybody. 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:19.280 What do you guys see me? 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:21.640 What are you saying you're with the team. 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:26.080 Well, I mean, I tell you, the attitude has been great. 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.800 I mean I've walked through the clubhouse. It's a totally 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.160 different clubhouse than it used to be like five or 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:32.000 six years ago. 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:35.280 They've they've changed things around it. 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:38.040 And I've gotten a chance to walk through the because 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.920 we to access the manager's office, you got to go 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:44.400 through the clubhouse. And you know, the guys actually look 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.760 loose and relaxed and doing going about their business, going 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:51.320 about their work. I don't really see a ton of 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.360 change in like what's going on inside the clubhouse actually, 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:55.600 But but you're right. 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:59.040 I think it starts with starting pitching. There's no question when. 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:02.200 You have a starter like Wheeler who just dealt on Sunday, 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.720 and then you come back with Christopher Sanchez, who was 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:06.280 just phenomenal yesterday. 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.360 I mean, I love the way he went about his 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.240 business man. He was throwing strikes, he'd been working on 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:16.000 some things. He had not had a great July. You know, 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.360 he signed the big contract and he had earned it. 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:20.880 He had been pitching very well, and I thought it 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:23.200 was a very shrewd move by the Phillies. As he 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:28.080 continues to progress as a major leaguer, But but he 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:31.040 went you know, he went into the into the lab, 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.960 so to speak, and worked on some things, and I 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.280 mean it was just delightful to watch him pitch yesterday. 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:42.120 He threw inside nicely against Otani, kept him off balance. 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:43.520 It's the second time he's faced him. 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.760 He did a nice job with him, did a pretty 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:48.520 good job with Freddie Freeman. I mean, those are really 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:52.120 really good left handed hitters, and did it. I mean, 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.280 he did a heck of a job of keeping things down. 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.480 And when you get good starting pitching, man, you got 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.640 a chance. Came up with some big hits, some home runs. 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:04.120 It was a nice Philadelphia Phillies win and something that 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.280 we had seen in the early part of the season 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.160 here out here in LA. Hopefully they can carry over 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:11.239 with Tyler Phillips on the on the bump tonight. 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.280 Yeah, they've played three pretty good games in a row, 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.120 winning two of them, which is a good sign. It's 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.120 a sign that they're kind of coming out of this. 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.320 There was, you know, Christopher Sanchez a great job last 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.080 night keeping the ball on the ground. You know, they 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:25.960 end that one ending where they strung some hits together. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:27.680 We haven't seen that in a while. That was good. 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:29.760 They hit the ball over the wall, which they need 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.880 to do their home run reliant. But I still think 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.400 you can win other ways with this offense. When your 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.080 strength of hits together did a lot of that in 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.040 the first half of the season. It's good to see 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:40.960 them kind of getting back to that. So also gave 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:45.880 him a nice little bounce, a little little jokes started 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.800 at second base against the lefty. We've seen that, you know, 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.760 a little bit more often recently. You guys get in 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.120 the vibe that this is kind of becoming a platoon 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.520 at second It might be. 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.880 You know, Rob was asked about that yesterday and he said, yes, 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:03.520 he said, it's more about Sosa than it is about Scott. 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:05.880 He says he's confident in Stott's ability to hit left 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.440 handed pitching, but he's got to work Sosa in there. 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:14.240 But that said, if Stott continues to struggle, I could 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.560 see a situation where where Sosa is in there. Now, 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.120 you know that that would be interesting compost season time 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:22.159 if it's if it stays that way. But but I 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.240 think that's definitely a possibility. And it was interesting yesterday 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:29.560 Rob Thompson starting Brandon Marsh against Clayton Kershaw and Marsh's 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.920 at bats against lefty's bent have been a lot better, 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.080 and and Rob said, he's also open minded to the 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:39.560 idea that, you know, if if Marsh continues to hit 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.000 left handed pitching, maybe they keep him out there in 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:45.320 center field compost season times. So some things that you 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:49.320 might not have necessarily thought about a month ago as 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.279 you get down the stretch are kind of coming into 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.800 plays as they kind of try to figure things out 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:54.960 heading into October. 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.440 And that's amazing how things can flip. 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.800 Right. There's a couple of months ago, your a man, 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.880 Scott's got to play every day, and you got to 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:07.400 platoon the other guy and maybe give you the other guy, 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:09.920 give Marsh a chance, maybe against the left east, but 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.240 then he's so bad against him. Now you can't play 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.760 against left handers. And now it's almost like a flip 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.680 because you haven't seen the development and Stott that you 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:18.599 thought you would get. 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:22.040 If it were me, I would go ahead and platoon 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:22.680 him right now. 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:27.520 Because this young man in Sosa impacts the game almost 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:31.279 every single time he plays, whether it's a nice defensive 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.200 play or it's a big bass hit or a sack fly, 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:37.880 or yesterday was a big home run. I mean, this 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.880 guy's playing with a lot of confidence. I know that 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.600 he loves playing for Rob Thompson. Rob Thompson loves him 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:49.040 and trusts him. And I mean I got to find 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:52.280 out whether this guy can actually be a real platoon 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:56.080 for me. And I mean as good as time as 0:05:56.160 --> 0:06:00.360 any right now here in August to see because face 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.359 some left handers, man and and Scott has not, you know, 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:08.440 swung the back consistently well, So he hasn't earned that 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.360 right to be able to hit every single day against 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.000 the left handers. So I would give him a shot 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:17.240 if I were Rob Thompson. But again there's the egos. 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.640 He's got a massage, he's gotta you know, there's things 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.919 he's got to do. You know, the whole thing with 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.560 not pinch hitting for Garrett Stubbs, you know, a couple 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:30.240 of nights ago. You know, he that wasn't an ego 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.880 thing as much as it was he wanted to make 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:36.400 sure that JT is is ready physically to be able 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.320 to do that sort of thing, you know, sit down 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.680 all game long and then bounce into the game. I 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.840 think he now feels comfort more comfortable about doing something 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:48.080 like that after having talked to him. So you're gonna 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.040 see some things when you talk about, you know, preparing 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.120 for the playoffs, you're gonna see some things. I think 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.840 that is that are you know, pretty germane to being 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.640 in the playoffs, like to to being part of what 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:04.800 it is to be a contending team in important games 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:06.400 in September and October. 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:08.760 And it's as good a time as any to find out. 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:13.680 It's about winning ball games now and in October. If 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:17.040 the platoon gives you a better chance of winning that ballgame, 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.760 you must go with it. If you are the player 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.600 the subject of the platoon and you do not like it, 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:26.400 perform better against the left or the righty and you 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:31.600 will get more full time opportunities. It's simple performance based industry, 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:36.800 performance based game, performance based business perform you will play. 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:38.920 Especially on a team like this that's trying to win 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.160 the World Series. It's they're not you know, they're not 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.280 fighting a you know, they're not just happy to be here. 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:46.239 This is a team that's trying to win. 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:48.680 A world They're not playing they're not playing titty wings. 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:53.280 Yeah, exactly right. So the last couple of days we've 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.560 asked for some listener viewer questions guys, and we got 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.080 a lot, and I thought it would be fun to kind 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.440 of just let's just go through some of these. Let's 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.120 start with a big picture when he kind of started 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:07.440 talking big picture. But this one's from d Stone. Danny Stone, 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.480 I guess on a scale of one to ten, how 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.440 worried are you, guys about the current state of the Phillies. 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:15.840 Let's start with Jim. Jim, how ward are you in 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.320 a scale of one to ten, let me. 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:25.560 Take my pulse. I'll warried, Warry and panic are not 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:29.240 in my vocabulary at least at least at this time 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.240 of the year. So I'm probably a one point. 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:35.720 Or at your or at your age, I'm. 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.760 A one point five one point five my warr meter. 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.439 I think it's uh, you know, baseball, ebbs and flows. 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:44.600 I'm gonna throw all the cliches at you, the ups 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:50.360 and the downs, it's baseball. I think they have good 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:52.839 players with good track records, and I think they're going 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.760 through a funk, you know, the Dodgers kind of going 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:57.640 through with the Oriols have gone through with, the Yankees 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.920 have gone through it. It's bitten the Phillies, and I 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.360 think they're gonna live to tell about it, uh and 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:06.560 maybe be stronger for it. Yes, there is swing and 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.520 missing this lineup, even when they're going good, there's gonna 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:13.120 be nice when you go, what are they doing? It's 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:14.959 there's a lot of swing and miss this chase. It's 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.480 it's just in their DNA. But when they put it 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.880 together and they have great games, they can play over that. 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:22.720 They'll be nice. Though when it rears its head and 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.680 it'll frustrate you. They've had injuries in the starting rotation 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.480 that's difficult to deal with. They had a little lull 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.320 in the starting rotation from Sanchez and Wheeler had a 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.560 tough one. That's part of baseball. I still like this team. 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:38.520 My worry factor one point five nic. 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.160 So I'll give it to you from a several different 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:46.360 angles as coming from the Ruby tomorrow, the player I 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:51.520 have zero, okay, absolutely zero, no worries at all. I 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:54.520 know the boys will be fine. As a Philadelphia Phillies 0:09:54.679 --> 0:10:00.880 fan growing up, I'm at a nine as a GM. 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:02.920 When I was a GM, i'd probably be in like 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:07.400 the six to seven range. Really okay, But I will 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.440 tell you that I'm probably right now, probably right in 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:12.240 the four or five. And the reason why I'm four 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:15.199 or five is because the only person that I'm really 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.600 concerned about, or I guess the element that I'm worried 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.160 about is the starting pitching. If the starting pitching, if 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.920 you get Suarez back, and you know, I think he 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.920 is starting to develop. He had a nice bullpen on Monday. 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:35.080 He pretty aggressively pitched. I think he's going to start 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:38.760 to move forward, maybe face some hitters in a couple 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.679 of outings, could have another, I think aggressive bullpen when 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:45.440 they in Arizona, probably go to SAFS. You know, see 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.680 a couple of hitters then and then after that, who 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.280 knows whether he goes on a rehab or not. But 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.640 if he gets through that with his back and he's 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:57.360 comfortable apparently through really well in his bullpen, then then 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:01.000 I go back to like a two because I really 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:05.200 believe in this starting rotation. When they're at full bore, 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:10.120 it's really good. The Christopher Sanchez start was huge. They've 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:13.360 got Taiwan Walker coming back to create some depth. I 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.400 don't think he's a world beater, but he's a major 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.240 league pitcher and he's starting to throw a little bit better. 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.360 He's not quite ready. He had a rain out in 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:25.560 his last rehab. So he's pitching I think tonight in 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:30.719 Akron and so for the fighting phils and reading, and 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.400 you know, I just gotta I just got to believe 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.439 that if their health of their pitching staff is okay, 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.120 then I dropped down to a pretty low number. 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:43.320 Can I Can I say something I don't You know, 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:48.320 Worry to me is different than being ticked off. I 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:50.439 think you can be ticked off like a nine point 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.560 nine at the way they're playing. You can be ticked 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:58.880 off and hell's going on and tighten it up without 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:02.800 being war because you know, I think if you observed 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:04.720 the big picture and you know a little bit about 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:06.000 the team, you think they're going to come out of it, 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.480 that reduces your warry. But you want to play good 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:10.200 every night, you want to have high standards. You can 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.560 be pissed off and ticked off about the way they're playing. 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:17.280 To me, that's different than worry. Does anybody agree? 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.000 I agree one hundred percent. I think that I think 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.600 everybody in that clubhouse has been frustrated. You know, they've 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.720 said as much, but they've also said that they believe 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:27.120 in the talent in the room, like you guys have 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:30.800 been saying and they are not panicked about it. I 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.040 talked a little bit yesterday with Dave den browskinting, and 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.719 I said, how concerned are He's like, I'm not concerned 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.720 at all. I think we're good. We're going to be fine. 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:39.960 You know. 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:44.079 And Jim you mentioned it health to the rotation Rubin 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.200 you talk just talked about He said, what do you 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.120 think about it? We've lost three out of our top 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:53.240 six starters right now, we're without Suarez, Walker, Turnbull. That's 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.960 a big hit. But yeah, so I'm like at it too. 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.760 I'm not concerned at all either. I think they're going 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.320 to be fine. I think it's that it's not like 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.800 these guys are, in my opinion, at the very end 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.000 of their primes and you're going, uh oh, is this 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:10.360 the downside? Are we seeing the downside in the second 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.600 half of the twenty twenty All these guys are really 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.360 in their primes. So I'm not for that reason, I'm not. 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:16.720 I'm not worried about it. 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.120 It's you mean they're not It's not like twenty twelve. 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.319 That's this is not the twenty and twelve Phillies where 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:26.040 you're going, uh oh, not yet, Yeah, not yet. No, 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.240 I think I think they've got another couple of years 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:33.280 to go, you know, theoretically before before they get to 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:38.760 that point. But all right, so let's you know, a 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:42.320 lot of questions. I'm just generally speaking because honestly, like 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:46.200 half the questions we're about the backup catcher position. And 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.680 it's to me, it's kind of uh. I think it's 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.560 just kind of coming off that pinch it at bad 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:52.920 or non pitch it at bad on Monday night. But 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.720 do you have any thoughts on the backup catcher situation? 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.880 A lot of people asking about Raphael Marshawn and Garrett 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:06.200 Garrett Stubbs to me, to me, that's not even a 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.439 big issue, I guess because it's a backup catcher. I 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:10.760 think they've got a lot of other things they got 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.440 to figure out. That those things get figured out, we're 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.480 not talking about the backup catcher situation. 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.800 Yeah, if you're focused on that, some other things must 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:23.960 be going pretty well. You know, people are up in 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.840 arms about not pinch hitting the other night, and Rob 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:30.800 wanted to get JT a full day. You know, from 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.160 covering this team for a long time and listening and 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:36.040 trying to parse things and seeing how they handle certain things, 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.960 you know. I don't know if that was a completely 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:44.120 solo Rob Thompson's decision. I think when JT comes off 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:47.440 the IL, that their medical team and their sports science 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.520 team are involved, and then mapping out what the next 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.040 month looks like on a surgically repaired knee for an 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.600 important player, that day off might have been scripted two 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:58.480 weeks ago, and there was no way he was not 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.280 going to get it. And to pinch hit in that 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.240 situation means if you tie the game, he's got to 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.240 go out there and get behind the dish. And they 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.640 wanted him to get a full day on that knee. 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.000 And now maybe they're thinking was shaped by the big 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.280 picture that you know, they have a good amount of 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:16.280 wins and they're looking good in terms of the postseason picture. 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.400 But I think there's a chance that that decision was 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.960 I'm sure Rob Thompson's part of it, but even bigger 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.880 than Rob, and in a way, he's following an organizational 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:27.680 game plan. I don't know if you guys agree, Ruben, 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:28.840 might you agree there? 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.480 I sure do, there's no question about it. I don't 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.880 think the comfort of him coming into games again this 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:40.040 is in the and he's so important because if the 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:44.280 backup catcher situation becomes important only if JT is not 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.880 able to catch, you know, ninety percent of the games 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:50.080 like it typically does, or eighty five percent of the games, 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:52.560 and I think they're sort of easing him in. You'll 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:55.560 we will find out a lot about how the Philadelphia 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:59.560 Phillies feel about Marshawn when they expand the rosters in 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:03.880 sum because on the days off, when JAT needs a 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:05.840 day off, I got to believe that Marshall will be 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:07.680 We'll be back there catching because I. 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.280 Love this kid. I think this kid, at some point, 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:12.800 if he. 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:16.520 Gets his help together and his durability together, has a 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:18.040 chance to be a number one catcher. 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:19.320 Again. 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:22.200 It's a big if, but I love the way he receives, 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.440 he calls an excellent game. He can swing the bat 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.240 a little bit. He's gaining some confidence there from both sides. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.920 And you know, starting catchers who run can run a 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.760 game and can receive and throw the way this kid 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.720 can and be a switch hitter. 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.480 That's a real plus. So we'll find out a lot 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:40.520 about him in September. 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:43.680 I think when he comes back up and I know 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.200 they can't expand a lot, what is it what one 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.720 or two players they can only bring. I don't think. 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.560 I don't know what the maximum number of players they 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.440 can bring after this expansion. They used to be unlimited. 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.040 Now it's just a couple of two or three players. 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:00.800 And so so it might be him and you know, 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:06.760 say another pitcher. So I just think it's not that 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:10.879 big of a deal. Uh. It's obvious that Garret Stubs 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.120 is not a great offensive player, but I mean he's there. 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.520 He's there for a couple of different reasons. One he's 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.800 an important part of the team in that clubhouse, and 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:21.080 two he's actually and more importantly, he's he does a 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.199 pretty good job behind the plate, running and running a 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:27.680 game and doing those sorts of things. So you'd rather 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:33.040 have depth there and and listen, I get it. I 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:34.680 think it would be a kind of a blow to 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:36.680 the clubhouse in a lot of ways to beat flip 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:38.280 flopping those guys. And I don't think it's all that 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:39.160 important right now. 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:43.679 Totally couldn't agree more. This is so. This one's from Keita. 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:44.560 I believe the name is. 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:48.240 I think I'm mispronouncing it. It's basically Rob Thompson, question 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:52.639 about his style, says he's like Nero watching Rome Byrne. 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.360 He needs to be honest with himself and make some changes. 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.679 I don't care if the big money guys like it 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:01.359 or not. She wants some rant and raven it sounds like, 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:06.960 or some benchings or some lineup shuffles. And to me, 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:10.000 that's just not who Rob Thompson is. And I think 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.879 the guys in that clubhouse appreciated. I think the guys 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:16.800 in that clubhouse are very good at policing themselves. And 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.160 you know, Kyle Schwarber the other day in Seattle said, 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:21.800 it's not like we're not working. We're in the cage 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:26.119 every day taking hundreds and hundreds of swings for maybe 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:30.760 four five swings all night. We're working our butts off, 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.680 and I was, I'm reminded of something that Jeff frank 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.840 Course said on the show in late June when he said, 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.479 you know, this team has so many high price stars, 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:43.480 but he's like, I'll give Bryce Harper three hundred thirty 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.639 million because I know he cares and it kills him 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:47.880 when he's not playing well. I know I'll give Trey 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:49.560 Turner three in here million because I know it kills 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.000 him when he's not playing well. You know, Kyle Schwarber 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.159 eighty million, because I know it kills him when he's 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.560 not playing well. And these guys, these guys care and 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:58.879 they're can continue to work out of it. And I 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:02.880 don't think Rob tom and ranting and raving or flipping 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:06.920 over a spread or you know, chewing out the team 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.240 in front of the dugout so all the TV cameras 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.480 can catch it and you know they can play it 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:16.280 on MLB Network or on NBC Sports Philadelphia. That's not 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.240 his style and I don't think it would be effective 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:20.719 in this clubhouse. So you know, keep calm, carry on. 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.080 That's the Rob Thompson mantra, and it seems to be 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:24.440 working quite well. 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:28.880 I agree with you, Todd. He is the steady mariner 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.360 who takes that vessel and steers it around the sea 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:34.840 monsters and the tidal waves, and you come out on 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:38.320 the other end surviving at all. And for him to 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:41.600 start tipping over stuff would not be true to his personality. 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:44.480 And guys see you right through that, and then you 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:46.280 lose the clubhouse. So you need to be true to 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:49.520 your person If it is your personality to throw around 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:51.880 and tip over the spread and throw around furniture, then 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:55.439 that's fine, but he needs to be true to his personality. 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.160 That doesn't mean he can't call somebody behind closed doors 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:01.040 and air him, because I think that is more his style, 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.439 and I do think that happens. But you got to 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:07.520 be true, You got to be steady. This is you know, 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.040 it's not football where you're playing in what sixteen or 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:13.440 eighteen games, you're banging your head against the locker. You're 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:15.879 coming out and tearing somebody's head off. You have to 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:18.840 maintain and I believe you need to play with energy 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:22.399 and exuberance. I believe in an emotion in that way, 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:25.760 but I don't think you come out and start smashing stuff. 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:28.320 It's a different kind of emotion. It's a more even 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:31.960 keeled emotion in this game. And I think your top managers, 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:34.560 at least these days, maybe back in Gene marks Ea 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:37.840 it was different, but at least in these days, you 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:40.040 need to be You need to be steady. Do you 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:41.960