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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Chase Utley and this is the Phillies Show.

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Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, Welcome to the Philly Show. Ruben Tomorrow, Junior,

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Speaker 2: Jim Salisbury, Todds A lucky It's Wednesday, August seventh, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. The Phillies have won two out of their

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Speaker 2: last three games. They won Tuesday night in Los Angeles. Guys, tonight,

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Speaker 2: the Phillies have an opportunity Wednesday night to win their

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Speaker 2: first series since they swept the Dodgers at home last month.

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Speaker 2: They've lost six straight series. They've been playing a little

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Speaker 2: bit better. They've been getting some hits, they've been pitching

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Speaker 2: a little bit better. The bullpen locked it down last night.

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Speaker 2: So some encouraging signs out in La La. Of course,

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Speaker 2: you see a lot of people. Ruby, you saw Chase

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Speaker 2: Utley was at the ballpark yesterday. Greg Dobbs has been

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Speaker 2: at the ballpark. It's aw Randy Wolf, Mike Leeber thought

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Speaker 2: might be dropping by. I've heard so some some improvement,

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Speaker 2: some signs of life from the Phillies. That's been. That's

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Speaker 2: been a nice change of pace for for for everybody.

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Speaker 3: What do you guys see me?

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Speaker 4: What are you saying you're with the team.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I tell you, the attitude has been great.

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Speaker 3: I mean I've walked through the clubhouse. It's a totally

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Speaker 3: different clubhouse than it used to be like five or

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Speaker 5: They've they've changed things around it.

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Speaker 3: And I've gotten a chance to walk through the because

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Speaker 3: we to access the manager's office, you got to go

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Speaker 3: through the clubhouse. And you know, the guys actually look

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Speaker 3: loose and relaxed and doing going about their business, going

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Speaker 3: about their work. I don't really see a ton of

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Speaker 3: change in like what's going on inside the clubhouse actually,

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Speaker 3: But but you're right.

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Speaker 5: I think it starts with starting pitching. There's no question when.

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Speaker 3: You have a starter like Wheeler who just dealt on Sunday,

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Speaker 3: and then you come back with Christopher Sanchez, who was

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Speaker 3: just phenomenal yesterday.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I love the way he went about his

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Speaker 5: business man. He was throwing strikes, he'd been working on

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Speaker 5: some things. He had not had a great July. You know,

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Speaker 5: he signed the big contract and he had earned it.

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Speaker 5: He had been pitching very well, and I thought it

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Speaker 5: was a very shrewd move by the Phillies. As he

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Speaker 5: continues to progress as a major leaguer, But but he

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Speaker 5: went you know, he went into the into the lab,

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Speaker 5: so to speak, and worked on some things, and I

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Speaker 5: mean it was just delightful to watch him pitch yesterday.

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Speaker 5: He threw inside nicely against Otani, kept him off balance.

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Speaker 5: It's the second time he's faced him.

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Speaker 3: He did a nice job with him, did a pretty

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Speaker 3: good job with Freddie Freeman. I mean, those are really

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Speaker 3: he did a heck of a job of keeping things down.

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Speaker 3: And when you get good starting pitching, man, you got

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Speaker 3: a chance. Came up with some big hits, some home runs.

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Speaker 3: It was a nice Philadelphia Phillies win and something that

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Speaker 3: we had seen in the early part of the season

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Speaker 3: here out here in LA. Hopefully they can carry over

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Speaker 3: with Tyler Phillips on the on the bump tonight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they've played three pretty good games in a row,

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Speaker 4: winning two of them, which is a good sign. It's

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Speaker 4: a sign that they're kind of coming out of this.

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Speaker 4: There was, you know, Christopher Sanchez a great job last

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Speaker 4: night keeping the ball on the ground. You know, they

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Speaker 4: end that one ending where they strung some hits together.

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Speaker 4: We haven't seen that in a while. That was good.

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Speaker 4: They hit the ball over the wall, which they need

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Speaker 4: to do their home run reliant. But I still think

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Speaker 4: you can win other ways with this offense. When your

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Speaker 4: strength of hits together did a lot of that in

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Speaker 4: at second base against the lefty. We've seen that, you know,

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Speaker 4: a little bit more often recently. You guys get in

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Speaker 4: the vibe that this is kind of becoming a platoon

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Speaker 4: at second It might be.

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Speaker 2: You know, Rob was asked about that yesterday and he said, yes,

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Speaker 2: he said, it's more about Sosa than it is about Scott.

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Speaker 2: He says he's confident in Stott's ability to hit left

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Speaker 2: But that said, if Stott continues to struggle, I could

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Speaker 2: see a situation where where Sosa is in there. Now,

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Speaker 2: think that's definitely a possibility. And it was interesting yesterday

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Speaker 2: Rob Thompson starting Brandon Marsh against Clayton Kershaw and Marsh's

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Speaker 5: And that's amazing how things can flip.

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Speaker 3: Right. There's a couple of months ago, your a man,

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Speaker 3: Scott's got to play every day, and you got to

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Speaker 3: platoon the other guy and maybe give you the other guy,

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Speaker 3: give Marsh a chance, maybe against the left east, but

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Speaker 3: then he's so bad against him. Now you can't play

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Speaker 3: against left handers. And now it's almost like a flip

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Speaker 3: because you haven't seen the development and Stott that you

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Speaker 5: If it were me, I would go ahead and platoon

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Speaker 5: him right now.

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Speaker 3: Because this young man in Sosa impacts the game almost

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Speaker 3: every single time he plays, whether it's a nice defensive

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Speaker 3: or yesterday was a big home run. I mean, this

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Speaker 3: guy's playing with a lot of confidence. I know that

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Speaker 3: he loves playing for Rob Thompson. Rob Thompson loves him

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Speaker 3: for me. And I mean as good as time as

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Speaker 3: some left handers, man and and Scott has not, you know,

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Speaker 3: swung the back consistently well, So he hasn't earned that

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Speaker 3: if I were Rob Thompson. But again there's the egos.

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Speaker 3: He's got a massage, he's gotta you know, there's things

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Speaker 3: not pinch hitting for Garrett Stubbs, you know, a couple

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Speaker 3: of nights ago. You know, he that wasn't an ego

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Speaker 3: sure that JT is is ready physically to be able

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Speaker 3: think he now feels comfort more comfortable about doing something

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Speaker 3: that is that are you know, pretty germane to being

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Speaker 3: in September and October.

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Speaker 5: And it's as good a time as any to find out.

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Speaker 4: It's about winning ball games now and in October. If

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Speaker 4: the platoon gives you a better chance of winning that ballgame,

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Speaker 4: you must go with it. If you are the player

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Speaker 4: the subject of the platoon and you do not like it,

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Speaker 4: perform better against the left or the righty and you

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Speaker 4: will get more full time opportunities. It's simple performance based industry,

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Speaker 4: performance based game, performance based business perform you will play.

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Speaker 2: Especially on a team like this that's trying to win

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Speaker 2: the World Series. It's they're not you know, they're not

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Speaker 2: fighting a you know, they're not just happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: This is a team that's trying to win.

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Speaker 3: A world They're not playing they're not playing titty wings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. So the last couple of days we've

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Speaker 2: asked for some listener viewer questions guys, and we got

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Speaker 2: a lot, and I thought it would be fun to kind

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Speaker 2: of just let's just go through some of these. Let's

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Speaker 2: start with a big picture when he kind of started

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Speaker 2: talking big picture. But this one's from d Stone. Danny Stone,

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Speaker 2: I guess on a scale of one to ten, how

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Speaker 2: worried are you, guys about the current state of the Phillies.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with Jim. Jim, how ward are you in

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Speaker 2: a scale of one to ten, let me.

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Speaker 4: Take my pulse. I'll warried, Warry and panic are not

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Speaker 4: in my vocabulary at least at least at this time

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Speaker 4: of the year. So I'm probably a one point.

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Speaker 3: Or at your or at your age, I'm.

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Speaker 4: A one point five one point five my warr meter.

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Speaker 4: I think it's uh, you know, baseball, ebbs and flows.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw all the cliches at you, the ups

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Speaker 4: and the downs, it's baseball. I think they have good

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Speaker 4: maybe be stronger for it. Yes, there is swing and

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Speaker 4: be nice when you go, what are they doing? It's

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of swing and miss this chase. It's

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Speaker 4: it's just in their DNA. But when they put it

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Speaker 4: They'll be nice. Though when it rears its head and

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Speaker 4: it'll frustrate you. They've had injuries in the starting rotation

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Speaker 4: that's difficult to deal with. They had a little lull

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Speaker 4: tough one. That's part of baseball. I still like this team.

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Speaker 4: My worry factor one point five nic.

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Speaker 3: So I'll give it to you from a several different

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Speaker 3: have zero, okay, absolutely zero, no worries at all. I

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Speaker 3: know the boys will be fine. As a Philadelphia Phillies

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Speaker 3: When I was a GM, i'd probably be in like

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 2: Totally couldn't agree more. This is so. This one's from Keita.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm mispronouncing it. It's basically Rob Thompson, question

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Speaker 4: I agree with you, Todd. He is the steady mariner

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Speaker 4: That doesn't mean he can't call somebody behind closed doors

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Speaker 3: Totally agree with what you guys are saying, and you're

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Speaker 3: understands the psyche of the player. He knows over time,

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Speaker 3: he's seen the changes that have occurred as far as

432
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 3: when the pat guy's on the ass and when the

433
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 3: you know beat on him a little bit. And the

434
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 3: reality of it is I love the way he handles things.

435
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 3: And it's a great combination of you know, understanding and

436
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 3: yet still demanding because he's going to demand excellence from them.

437
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 3: Believe me, if he sees people not working or doing

438
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,719
Speaker 3: their jobs, he's going to let him know and has

439
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 3: but he'll do it behind closed doors when where the

440
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: player will not be embarrassed. And then that way he

441
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 3: doesn't lose the player. He needs that guy. He needs

442
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 3: everybody to pull on the same side of the rope.

443
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 3: And I think it does a heckup a job in

444
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 3: that area if.

445
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 4: The manager gets all nervous and fidgety and chewing his

446
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,719
Speaker 4: nails and fussing and feud and smashing stuff. He's the leader.

447
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 4: Those guys feed off that negative energy, and all of

448
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 4: a sudden they gripping the bat handle tighter. It becomes defeatist.

449
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 4: So be true to your personality. He is the you know,

450
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 4: kind of the calm mariner taking this team through the

451
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 4: seas and just continue being that.

452
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 2: Anthony Fiore wants to know what is your favorite Phillies

453
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: prank or joke you were a part of. So let's

454
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 2: get off the serious baseball talk and see if you

455
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: guys have any funny. Uh, well, we thanks involved in.

456
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 4: We told the Will Vanable one early on in the podcast.

457
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 4: I pumped when they signed. I'll tell it again real quick.

458
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 4: They signed Will will Venable, And Todd says to me

459
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 4: in the morning, Hey, you signed Will Venable. This is

460
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 4: the spring training I go, yeah, it's wilven What I said,

461
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 4: it's Will not Venable. It's so we're in spring training.

462
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 4: It's like eight o'clock in the morning. The day goes by.

463
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 4: We finally get uh with Pete mccannon late in the afternoon,

464
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 4: and we had both forgotten about this. Uh and Todd

465
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 4: says to Pete mccannon, what are your plans for an able?

466
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 4: Pete mccannon goes what he goes. What are your plans

467
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 4: for NBA? Venable Todd, I just couldn't know. I still

468
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 4: laugh when I think about that, but I just like

469
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 4: that's a good podcast. It's uh, it's one of my

470
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 4: all time favorites, you know, when it comes from ballpark pranks.

471
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 4: John Vukovich was way up there. I used to love

472
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 4: when he took Chris Wheeler's briefcase and he put it

473
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 4: out a shortstop during BP and guys were just trying

474
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 4: to you often crush Wheelers briefcase. That was always a

475
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 4: good one.

476
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: I got one when I was a bat boy and

477
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 3: it was not pretty. So when I was a bat

478
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 3: boy back in the day, I think it was in

479
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty one. It was either eighty one or eighty two,

480
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 3: and Dick Ruthven was still on the staff. I think

481
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: Mike Kruco was with the Phillies at that time. It

482
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: was long time broadcaster with the Giants. Now great, both

483
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 3: great guys. But I used to have a I used

484
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 3: to leave my Coca Cola or my Diet Coke right

485
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 3: by the balls because it used to get really, really hot.

486
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 3: And back then, you know, we didn't know about hydration.

487
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 3: We didn't know that, you know, Coca cola was not

488
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 3: really hydrating yourself. Oh my god, it probably a diuretic. Anyway,

489
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 3: those guys used to chew tobacco, and I left the

490
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 3: lid off so when i'd come back, you know, and

491
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 3: I finally one time, I go back and apparently they

492
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: were like leaving tobacco juice into my thing, so I

493
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 3: couldn't tell that it was a coke because it was dark.

494
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 3: Apparently I was drinking some tobacco juice for you for

495
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 3: about two weeks until I realized what the hell was

496
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 3: going on that that was that was natter and then

497
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 3: he they figured they finally saw me figure it out,

498
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: laughing there, rear ends off.

499
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 5: I'm a you sons, I can't believe doing that to me.

500
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 2: It's just disgusting.

501
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: Anyway, Hey, Tom, that's Gross's that was a gross That

502
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 3: was disgusting.

503
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 4: Did you ever hear the one about the young Phillies

504
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 4: player gotta get gets off to a nice successful start

505
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 4: and years ago and goes out and buys himself a

506
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 4: a fire engine red Ford Explorer, And it's really proud

507
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 4: of this Ford Explorer, and really proud that he's a

508
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 4: big League or in a Philly and he goes to

509
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 4: the DMV and gets a personalized license plate for this

510
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 4: red Ford Explorer that says I or it says it

511
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 4: says love l u V number two hit love to

512
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: Hit on the personalized license plate. And then he goes

513
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 4: in the tank and he's slumping, and he comes out

514
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: one night somebody had taken a piece of athletic tape

515
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 4: and under love to Hit, they had written, but can't

516
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 4: I've never heard that might have been this young Philly Reuben.

517
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 3: That would be me, you know, I was. I was

518
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: a little cocky when I first got to the big

519
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: leagues because I sort of had to deep myself into thinking, oh,

520
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: it's much better player than I really was, uh and uh.

521
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 5: To some of the some of the veterans didn't care

522
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 5: for that too much.

523
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: In ninety two and I actually had a very good

524
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 3: start to the season. I was trying to be I

525
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 3: was humble about the start. I was trying to be

526
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 3: humble about that. But my license, I mean I did

527
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 3: love to hit. I mean I worked at it a lot.

528
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 3: But then I guess I think it was John Cruck

529
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 3: who actually asked. I think it was maybe Phil Sheridan

530
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: at the time, who was at the time was working

531
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 3: as like a working.

532
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 5: In the clubhouse.

533
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 3: I think he told him to go put this thing

534
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 3: on this tape underneath and say he loves to hit

535
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: but he can't.

536
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 4: I actually I actually asked Krucky if it was him,

537
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 4: and he said it wasn't and he said check with Mitch.

538
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 3: Oh, I could have been Mitchie Pou too. I will

539
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: say this about I thought for a long time it

540
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: was it was Crunky, But I will tell you this

541
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 3: that John cruck did it really did me a solid

542
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: years months later when I came back, I got sent

543
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: down for a little bit and I came back and

544
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: he actually grabbed me at my locker and had some

545
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: real encouraging words for me. At the time, you know,

546
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: that was the time of those guys in the you know,

547
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: it's kind of the Broad Street bullies type type guys

548
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 3: that they had a very very tough clubhouse and and staff,

549
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: you know, some old school guys and was it was

550
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: not the welcoming place for the rookies as it is

551
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: in this day and age, especially with the with these Phillies,

552
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: because they're great.

553
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 5: But but yeah, John was really, really great.

554
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 4: Memories.

555
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: Funny, what about the time, Jim, you you pranked me

556
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: over the phone and and told me that Jose Mesa

557
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: punched you in the nose.

558
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: That one.

559
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 4: So this was today. I had a little we had

560
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 4: a little battle. We got over it. It was nothing.

561
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 4: It happens.

562
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: And uh, yeah, you were very critical of him. You

563
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 3: were very critical of him.

564
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 4: No, I really was. Jose.

565
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 3: Jose tended to be a little sensitive about about things

566
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: when when things didn't go well for him. He actually

567
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 3: Jose for a long time until Papavon rolled around. He was,

568
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: you know what, the most saves And yeah, he was

569
00:29:59,720 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: the same.

570
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 4: I was on his side on this one because he

571
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 4: had an option whose deal if he finished fifty five games,

572
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 4: he would get five and a half million the next year.

573
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 4: And all of a sudden, you guys started taking the

574
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 4: ball from him. So you know, there was a little

575
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 4: trying to keep that option from kicking in. And I

576
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 4: think he was more frustrated at you guys Ruben upstairs

577
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,479
Speaker 4: than he was at me, and he kind of unloaded

578
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 4: on me. But you know, it was no big deal.

579
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 4: But anyway, we'd go to Pittsburgh.

580
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: Well, well, you guys had a little confrontation in the

581
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: clubhouse in Affiliafter It's a Sunday night game against the Cordoninals.

582
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: Mace's on the mound. He gets pulled. Now, Mace has

583
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: not been in the clubhouse all season. Postgame, you can

584
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: never find him. You can never find him. He's he's

585
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: not in the clubhouse when the media is in there.

586
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: This night, he gets pulled out of the game in

587
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: the ninth inning. And who's sitting at.

588
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 6: His dugout stroking his goatee cs So Jim, being the

589
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 6: great reporter he is, he goes, huh, Jose is at

590
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 6: his locker, maybe he wants to finally talk.

591
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: And then you take it from there at Jim, Yeah,

592
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: because he was after you.

593
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 4: Had had a finish taken from him, which would maybe

594
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 4: you know, helped him get to his options. So I

595
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 4: just I asked him if he was talking, and he

596
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 4: just kind of got very upset at me, and we

597
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 4: got upset at each other, but it kind of went away. Yeah,

598
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 4: and like but there was a little bit of a

599
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 4: cold war for a while. And so like a week

600
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 4: later we go to Pittsburgh and it was a Friday

601
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 4: Saturday Sunday series Friday night and for some reason you

602
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 4: couldn't get to the Friday night game. So I covered

603
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 4: the Friday night game and I think you were driving

604
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 4: over to Pittsburgh.

605
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I was.

606
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 4: I was, And you drive over to Pittsburgh and uh,

607
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 4: you know, it was after the game and I'm upstairs

608
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 4: typing the story and my phone rings and I pick

609
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 4: it up and you and you're like, hey, I'm pulling

610
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 4: into Pittsburgh. How did everything go tonight? And I kind

611
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 4: of like pinch my nose and I go, you st

612
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 4: have a gun. Don't you ever take another day off?

613
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 4: Like what's the matter? He goes, I go, Mason drilled

614
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 4: me right in them. No, my nose was broken. I'm

615
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 4: bleeding all over my keyboard. He's like, you're gonna go

616
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 4: to the hospital what have you? And I'm like, no, man,

617
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 4: I'm gonna finish my story. I'm a gamer that is

618
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 4: all panic that jose Mesa has broken my nose, which

619
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 4: obviously it was a joke. And uh, finally I let

620
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 4: him in another game. I'm like, I'm just kidd and

621
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 4: I'll see you back to the hotel.

622
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: I one hundred percent to believe it, because they were

623
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: getting at it now. They didn't really get at it.

624
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: But it was they were kind of nose to nose

625
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: in in Philly at the Vet in the clubhouse at

626
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: the Vet No. Three that that night, I was like,

627
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: oh my god, I got Jim punched out by Jose

628
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: Masa in the clubhouse at Pittsburgh.

629
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 6: That was.

630
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 4: But we actually when Jose he left and then he

631
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 4: came back, you guys brought him back. Uh. Yeah, he

632
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 4: got his I want to say, one thousandth appearance once.

633
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 4: I think it was his one thousandth major league appearance

634
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 4: and Phillies, you know, and I wrote a story about it,

635
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 4: and uh, he was really grateful to that that milestone

636
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 4: was recognized, and uh, you know, we we man hugged

637
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 4: and it was really great. He was a really good guy.

638
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 4: I like.

639
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: I like Jose lots I got a chance to We

640
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: called him show Table. Uh the Table was a great

641
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: teammate man. I played with him in Cleveland and uh

642
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 3: just enjoyed having having to be around. When when Ed

643
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: acquired him, I think it acquired him from the Seattle Mariners.

644
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: That christ there's a lot of questions about, you know, wow,

645
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 3: is this guy done or is he not done? But

646
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: I think you know, the scouting people. Did a nice job.

647
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: He actually did a really good job for us for

648
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: a long time, and in a tough city that is

649
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: not very forgiving.

650
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 5: And uh. And you know, I have a lot of respect.

651
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: For Joe because he did a nice job for the

652
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: Phillies and for the longest, for a long time he

653
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: was he was racking up a lot of saves. It

654
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 3: wasn't always super clean, but you know, other than Mo,

655
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 3: who's super clean, I had a lot, not too many

656
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: of them.

657
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 4: I had a lot of respect for him too. He

658
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 4: do you remember what his warm up music was, you guys,

659
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 4: I do Do you remember it was?

660
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: Was it it Brian Adams?

661
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? It was Brian Adams.

662
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 4: Summer of sixty nine because him and his brother, the

663
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 4: story goes.

664
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 3: His twin brother, right, it was.

665
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's twin, but him and his

666
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 4: brother signed with the Blue Jays originally, and they didn't

667
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 4: speak any English, and they came to the States or wherever,

668
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: and they bought that cassette tape of Brian Adams and

669
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 4: they played it over and over and I helped him

670
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 4: kind of learn English. So I thought it was really

671
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 4: neat right, And he ended up playing that song as

672
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 4: his warm up music.

673
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 3: That's cool.

674
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very cool. I do remember him doing that.

675
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: I do remember that warm up song. Yeah, obviously sticks

676
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: and it sticks in my mind. This one is from

677
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: Xander H Xander Bogerts Xander bogert See thanks for thanks

678
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 2: for listening to The Philly Show. Xander Bill Guards. Uh

679
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: do you guys have a favorite ballpark snack or food?

680
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 2: Could be at at Citizens Bank Park or on the road.

681
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 4: You know, it depends where I am. I've always loved, uh,

682
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 4: the in San Francisco, the clam chowder and the bread

683
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: bro bread ball. I love that. I've always loved the

684
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 4: Burger at City Field. They have a really good burger

685
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 4: right box with those Nathan's fries. That's pretty good, man.

686
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 4: I remember getting some really good fish tacos at Dodger

687
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 4: Stadium and looking over and Matt Breen was eating like

688
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 4: a beet salad.

689
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: Well, man, he's he's you know, takes care of his

690
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: body a little bit better. I'm a big fan of

691
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 3: the garlic fries in San Francisco. They're spectacular, man, and

692
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: there those will give you breath forever. You've not kissed

693
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: your wife for eleven day oh no, but it's well

694
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: worth it.

695
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 5: It's well worth it.

696
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: There's a bunch of other foods, you know, every single

697
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: day when we come riding up that elevator to go

698
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 3: to the press box it Citizens Bank Park, and you

699
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 3: smell the burgers in there or shake Shack burgers. I

700
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 3: don't know how the attendants inside that elevator handle it,

701
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,959
Speaker 3: because they can rolling through here. Man, the shake Shack

702
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: burgers that smell is pretty fantastic.

703
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 4: It's funny when when the ballpark, the new ballpark opened

704
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 4: in San Francisco twenty years ago. I was out there

705
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 4: the first I guess the Phillies were out there the

706
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 4: first year it opened. And sitting in that front row

707
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 4: tod in the press box, you know, and there's two

708
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: old there's two old time scouts sitting up behind me

709
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 4: in that third row. And I hear them talking and

710
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 4: he's like, one of the guys goes, you know, he

711
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 4: used to go to Candlestick Park and all you smelled

712
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: was marijuana. You come here and all you smell is garlic.

713
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 4: That is great.

714
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

715
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 3: For me, I would say, at Citizens Bank.

716
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: Park, the Federal Donuts chicken sandwich to me is yeah,

717
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: I love the Federal Donuts chicken sandwich. That's I'm a

718
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: big Federal Donuts guy. You can get the donuts there,

719
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: chicken sandwich. And then on the road, Man, there's there's

720
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: a lot of good foodball parks. At City Field, they

721
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 2: had that Pat Lafrida's steak sandwich. That's really good. They

722
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: have Mamas of Corona like the hogi that they sell. Yeah,

723
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: that's right down the street from from City Field. Uh,

724
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 2: that that is great. A lot of I mean, there's

725
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: a lot of great stuff. How about the just the

726
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: for me being a Milwaukee guy, the brats and the

727
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: Polar sausages.

728
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, really good.

729
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: Really yeah. An American family field, those are tremendous.

730
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: Speaking of dogs, how about the about the Dodger dog.

731
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 3: The dogs outstanding. And I will say that Dave Nebowski

732
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 3: yesterday was you know, they have pretty good spread there

733
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 3: in l A.

734
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 5: But he said, hey, man, gotta have a Dodger dog.

735
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 3: We're here and we're here in LA So he fired

736
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 3: one down, had it all doctored up nicely.

737
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 5: But they're really terrific.

738
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 4: Well, you've got to put a lot of sludge on

739
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 4: that thing. Whatever they got, you throw it on there.

740
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 3: You're you're big on that.

741
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 2: I know that, so Brett Brett Mathis wants to know.

742
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: I asked a couple of questions, is it a World

743
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: Series or bust type of season? But I thought this

744
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 2: one might be interesting as well. What's your favorite what's

745
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: everyone's favorite part about their job? It's kind of a

746
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: big question.

747
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 4: Oh ahead, why don't you lead it off? Todd?

748
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: Favorite part of the job?

749
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 4: You know?

750
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: For me, of course, it's being being in the ballpark,

751
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: you know, seeing something new every night and all that.

752
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 2: But I think a cool part of the job, Jim,

753
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't know if you feel

754
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: this way. I don't think it's cheesy or corner or not.

755
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: But I always think it's kind of cool coming to

756
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,959
Speaker 2: the ballpark every day, getting the ballpark at two thirty

757
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: in the afternoon. Some guys are on the field taking

758
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: early hitting the game day employees are kind of getting

759
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: the concessions going there. It's there's this kind of this

760
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 2: building buzz, there's this building energy, and then of course

761
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: the ballpark the gates open, right, but you're you're at

762
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: the ballpark three four, five hours before first pitch, and

763
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: you don't really know what's going to happen today, and

764
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: you kind of you kind of you feel something right,

765
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 2: and then you do all the game work. You go downstairs,

766
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: you write your story, good or bad, win or lose

767
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: or whatever, and then I it's it's also very cool

768
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 2: leaving the ballpark at night. Now it's completely dead, silent.

769
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 2: I always remember. And why I think of that is

770
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: I remember the night Cole hambles through his no hitter

771
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: at Wrigley Field twenty fifteen, last start with the Phillies,

772
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: crazy game, super fun game, ballpark is electric. Finished my story,

773
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: and I took the long walk out jim on the

774
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: on the top there toward the end where the elevators are,

775
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 2: and I just looked out and Wrigley Field is completely dark.

776
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: It's dark outside, just lights shining feel, lights shining the field. Like, man,

777
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 2: this is pretty cool. This place is wild about three,

778
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: you know, two hours ago and now it's completely peaceful,

779
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 2: and it's just it was a gorgeous feel, and it's like,

780
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: this is.

781
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: Kind of a cool job.

782
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: This is kind of a cool job, so that that

783
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: might be one for me.

784
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jimmy, how about you.

785
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 4: I know exactly what you're saying about getting to the

786
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 4: ballpark early. There's that serenity. It's quiet, yep, and you

787
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 4: can actually get some work done, do your prep. And

788
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 4: then people start filling up. Now, players start coming out

789
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 4: for you know, they come out and their flip flops

790
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 4: to you know, just get the field, maybe do a

791
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 4: little stretching, and all of a sudden, the ballpark fills up.

792
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 4: It's alive, and then it's quiet again.

793
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: You know.

794
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 4: My favorite just being around baseball. I've loved it ever

795
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 4: my whole life. And just being able to be around

796
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 4: the ballpark. You know, honestly, I remember, you know, pulling

797
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 4: up to any ballpark and when I see the light towers,

798
00:40:55,400 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 4: I get excited and and you know, just being one

799
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: of the lures beside love and baseball, one of the

800
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 4: lures that grabbed me into this profession was I enjoy storytelling.

801
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 4: I enjoy reading a great story. I enjoy telling a

802
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 4: great story. I wanted to do that, and just being

803
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 4: able to tell a great story and feel like you

804
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 4: did it well is my favorite part of the job

805
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 4: and the best part of the job. Telling a story

806
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 4: about the player as a human being or the club

807
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 4: executive as a human being. What makes that human being

808
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 4: tick because you know, they're all human beings. The player

809
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 4: is just part of the human being. And that's always

810
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 4: been very satisfying for me.

811
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: Well. I mean, as most people know, I grew up

812
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 3: in baseball as my father. But I think back my

813
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 3: favorite parts of, you know, being involved in baseball, not

814
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: just being a Major League Baseball player. But I remember

815
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: when I was a GM, I would park underneath. I

816
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 3: would walk up to the concourse level and before anything

817
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: was going on. It was sake eight thirty or nine

818
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 3: in the morning, and you know, they're cleaning up from

819
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: the night before, and I would just grab a seat

820
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: right there, probably usually around the first baseline, and grab

821
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: a seat in the stadium in the ballpark it says

822
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 3: as a Bank park. When I was a GM, and

823
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 3: I would sit there and think to myself, Oh my god,

824
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: how crazy is it? Did I get to run this

825
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: organization's baseball department? And I never took that for granted.

826
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: I did that almost every day when we were at home.

827
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 3: I would sit there and just you know, suck it

828
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 3: all in.

829
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 5: It was.

830
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: It was very gratify. It makes me emotional. One of

831
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 3: the other my favorite things to do was to watch

832
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 3: the fanatic do his thing before the pre in the

833
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 3: pre game, I mean I did it. I watched it

834
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: as a kid. I watched it. I mean, I you know,

835
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 3: it's been going on for years. It's spectacular.

836
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 5: I think about that as a moment for.

837
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: Me, and I will also say you working and being

838
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 3: back with the Phillies in this role as a broadcaster, analyst,

839
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 3: et cetera. For me to be it's almost like, you know,

840
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 3: I'm living the really truly live in the dream because

841
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: I get to I get to talk about my favorite

842
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: sport and my favorite team that I was so involved

843
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 3: in and messed with, and I get to be around

844
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: the people that I that were my colleagues. I get

845
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: to work with you guys. I get to be around

846
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: the people that I've really enjoyed and grown up to

847
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 3: and grown to know. And then I get to play

848
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 3: golf because I don't have to worry about as many

849
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 3: as much about the wins and losses, and I could

850
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 3: just try to just try to enjoy the game and

851
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 3: the people that are involved in it.

852
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's a great place to end. That was fun

853
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: and thanks for Thanks to everybody that send in these questions.

854
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: We had a bunch more, but we can't have the

855
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 2: show go three hours. I think that would be a

856
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: little bit next time, Yeah, next time. Yeah, but we'll we'll,

857
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: we'll try to do more of these. I think people

858
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: enjoy that. And Phillies Dodgers Tonight, Phillies can win their

859
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 2: first series since they swept the Dodgers last month. So

860
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: let's see what happens.

861
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 3: Tyler Phillips bounce, step forward, Bounce bound.

862
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 2: Tyler, bounce back Bay Games. All right, we'll be back

863
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 2: later this week. Thanks guys, smell.

864
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 4: Your leader, boys, Small Jim.

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