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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt.

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Speaker 2: Our colleague Noel is on an adventure, but will be

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Speaker 2: returning shortly.

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Speaker 3: They call me Bed. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 3: super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagot. Most importantly, you

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Speaker 3: are you. You are here. That makes this the stuff

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Speaker 3: they don't want you to know. We're rounding out the

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Speaker 3: end of the calendar year. Gentle reminder for everybody in

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Speaker 3: the audience that calendars are kind of malarchy. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: if you're hearing this the evening this program publishes, welcome

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Speaker 3: to December eighth, twenty twenty five. I can't believe we've

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Speaker 3: made it almost knock on wood to twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Now, slow it down, Slow it down right now.

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Speaker 3: In honor of this, my comrade Matt and I thought

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Speaker 3: there would be nothing more appropriate than to open with

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Speaker 3: a joke brought to us by none other than super

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Speaker 3: producer Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, I heard this one the other day. And

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Speaker 4: I thought you all might like it. So some explorers

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Speaker 4: The guide says, don't worry. You only have to worry

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Speaker 4: if the drums stop. So they calm down. The second

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Speaker 4: Guide's like, no worries, it's only something to fear if

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Speaker 4: The explorers are super scared. They look at the guide

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Speaker 4: and he says, uh oh, bass solo.

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Speaker 2: And it's a dangerous thing to have a base.

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Speaker 3: It's a dangerous thing. Even both of my cats looked

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Speaker 3: up at the punchline there, Dylan, I think we may

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Speaker 3: have some feline bass players in the audience tonight. We

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Speaker 3: definitely have a lot of strange news. We've got the

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Speaker 3: Age of Disclosure. That's something that Matt and I have

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Speaker 3: very much been focused on for a while now. Matt,

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Speaker 3: we also have a lot of weird news about animals,

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Speaker 3: about space, and about cognitive science. But before we get

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Speaker 3: to any of that, could I please guys play for

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Speaker 3: you an absolute banger of internet ephemera. Yes, I'm so

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Speaker 3: glad you yes ended me on. That would man, it'd

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Speaker 3: be awkward. Who was a note? But here we go. Uh,

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Speaker 3: let us know if you remember this as well.

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Speaker 4: By Space with slap Job, it be a great noodle

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Speaker 4: things it slap me in trouble, so the way with

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Speaker 4: slapper Slade slapping in troubles, the way with slap Job, Bion.

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Speaker 2: Space with slap Job. Wow.

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Speaker 3: Do you guys remember that?

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Speaker 2: That's that's in the age of so many incredible songs

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Speaker 4: There was a Carl Second one, there was a Pop

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Speaker 3: They were all bangers, all bangers stemmed to stern folks.

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Speaker 3: We are. We just played. Hopefully we won't get sued

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Speaker 3: for this. We just played a brief clip which is

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Speaker 3: something called the slap Chop. The slap chop is one

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Speaker 3: of those classic infomercial kitchen gadgets that help helps you

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Speaker 3: It does work, I can confirm, you know me, Matt,

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Speaker 3: I'm just a sucker for good advertising, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, I get it. How could you not buy it

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Speaker 2: from that particular gentleman who is so just charismatic. We

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Speaker 3: That's the time where he used the S word three

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Speaker 3: So I think this guy is named offer Vince Schlomy Shlomi,

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Speaker 3: more popularly known as the sham Wow Guy. So our

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Speaker 2: Incredible. Well, we wish him the best of luck, do we.

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Speaker 3: I'll be honest. I have not read the entirety of

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Speaker 3: his campaign. This is primarily a reason or an excuse

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Speaker 3: for us to play the Sham Wow remix, which is

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Speaker 3: This is our cold open. We have other stuff to

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Speaker 3: a word from our sponsors, and then maybe disclose our

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Speaker 2: Hey, that sounds fun. Should we let people know that?

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Speaker 2: Quick little update about the Campbell's thing?

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Speaker 3: Oh right, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah great. Note. So, folks,

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Speaker 3: as we as we recorded our previous strange news program,

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Speaker 3: we called it, we predicted it Campbell's. The company has

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, specifically Campbell's soup. As far as we know,

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Speaker 3: the employee who recorded him has not returned to work either.

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Speaker 3: He was let go. I remember in our conversation on

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Speaker 3: that program, we both predicted the executive would get fired,

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Speaker 2: Yep, all your predictions have come true.

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Speaker 3: Been all your predictions.

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Speaker 2: We need to do something with this.

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Speaker 3: Just once. At some point we are going to be

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Speaker 2: And we've returned. There were some rumors and then a

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Speaker 2: trailer about a brand new alien disclosure movie coming out

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Speaker 2: We're very interested in that topic, as are many of us. Yes, yes, well,

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Speaker 2: there is a brand new documentary titled The Age of

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Speaker 2: Disclosure that you can go watch now. You do have

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Speaker 2: to pay for it. I found it on Amazon Prime

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can buy it or you can rent it,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was worth it. I really I

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Speaker 2: enjoyed the documentary very much. There's much in there to

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Speaker 2: Ben was Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio, politically divisive figure for

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Speaker 2: even while he's talking about some pretty crazy stuff, you know,

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Speaker 2: rationally pretty crazy stuff about and we'll spoil it here,

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Speaker 2: you see and here Marco Rubio talking about it so

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Speaker 3: Very weird, and we do want to note this is

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Speaker 3: If you are someone who watches infomercial electronic dance remixes

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Speaker 3: Yeah. But here he is, he is talking, or he's

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Speaker 3: he's stating as in arguable fact from his perspective, that

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, and this is not an original sin of

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Speaker 3: filmmaking nor speculation. We know and friends of neighbors, longtime

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Speaker 3: conspiracy realists, you know well that we have looked into

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Speaker 3: this concept of dark conspiracy reverse engineering of things. Right,

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Speaker 3: even before the age of the Internet, there would be

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Speaker 3: various factions saying, hey, how do you explain insert technological

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Speaker 3: is holding up in iPhone. How do you explain these

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Speaker 3: vast majority of scientific consensus argues, yes, humans get a

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Speaker 3: things like the age of disclosure. And some of the

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Speaker 3: And we have returned, folks. That is a crypted teas

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Speaker 3: United States in a liquor store in Virginia and was

436
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Speaker 3: found passed out on the bathroom floor. I think a

437
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: lot of us were writing into the show about this, because,

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Speaker 3: you know, we explored the recent studies surrounding urban versus

439
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: city raccoons.

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Speaker 2: First off, Ben, can I get a hail? Yeah, I

441
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: don't know why, just smash a couple of beers or

442
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: something imagining this guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this wreck food is definitely wearing like

444
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: a Holgan esque wavecap and said, hell yeah, brother with

445
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: the hard r Yeah, he broke into this liquor store

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00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: in Ashland, Virginia, early on Saturday previous Right, we're recording

447
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 3: on Wednesday, December third. It looks like the guy just

448
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 3: went on a typhoon level rampage, smashed bottles, collapsed ceiling tiles,

449
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: alcohol of all varieties, just laid out on the floor.

450
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: And on Saturday morning, there's an employee right at this

451
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: store who walks in and finds the place just in ruins,

452
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 3: right in pieces, and walks through the shattered origami of

453
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: glass to find this raccoon so much like an early

454
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: college student passed out right next to the commode. You

455
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: can see the photo.

456
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: Ah, he almost very god, he almost mad.

457
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 3: So there there's a whole thing we could do in

458
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Speaker 3: the future, maybe on a different show about animals and

459
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 3: non human animals, I mean, and alcohol, like how elephants

460
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: love love love love love this stuff. Bears will get drunk,

461
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 3: insects and various arboreal mammals will find fermented fruit. What

462
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 3: we're saying here is uh, free our guy. You know,

463
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: everybody has a bad weekend once in a while.

464
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Speaker 2: Yes, Freestone Cold Steve Raccoon. But they did they let

465
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: him go, right, He's just he's like out there now

466
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: just thinking about life.

467
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 3: What a menace. He's out there right now drinking ped

468
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 3: alite and planning his next crime.

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00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: Been The first comment on that AP news article, Do

470
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: you see it down there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

472
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 3: Alluded to us.

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Speaker 2: Farmer Yeehaw says people are dying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they are. The world's ending for someone every.

475
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Speaker 2: Day, right Yeah. But then the next commedge is like, yeah,

476
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: but that's why we need this kind of levity, dude,

477
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: stuff sucks out here right now.

478
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: We need this guy to have a name, is what

479
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: we're saying. Yes, and Farmer Yeehaw, maybe you're the person

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00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 3: to propose the name. Right now. I don't know about

481
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: the rest of us, but I practice something called optimistic nihilism,

482
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: which is how I deal with the world, which makes

483
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: it and have for centuries, which makes it easier to

484
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 3: enjoy the little guffaws right amid all the darkness. Uh,

485
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: we got another weird animals story? Do you want to

486
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: hear it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I keep thinking about you being around for centuries,

488
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: but yeah, I wanted more animal news.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you know cows right, like? Not like you

490
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Speaker 3: know of cows.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm currently playing South Park Stick of Truth, and

492
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: I have seen cows recently, you could confer.

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Speaker 3: We are officially disclosing this. Have you spent time with

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Speaker 3: cows in person? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: A little bit, Yeah, there are I well, I really

496
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: liked my time that I have spent with some cows. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, same man. I am still continually surprised by the

498
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: length of their tonguess. But it's just it's weird. You're

499
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 3: not expecting it. Dylan, Tennessee Pale cow experience you got any.

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Speaker 4: My wife's favorite animal is the cow. Oh and I

501
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 4: went to a place called Gentle Barn in Tennessee once

502
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Speaker 4: and met a count named Dudley. Excellent experienced.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Dudley that was unexpected. Yes, cows are

504
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: quite intelligent, right. Cows are a domesticated species, commonly throughout

505
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Speaker 3: most of the world, raised to be butchered and consumed.

506
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: Right in some parts of the world raised only for milk,

507
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: and there are a couple of cultures that raise them

508
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: just for their milk and to drink their blood at

509
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Speaker 3: different times. However, drug cartels saw an opportunity with cows.

510
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Speaker 3: There's a thing happening called cocaine cows. Oh boy, I know,

511
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 3: I know. It sounds like the New Sharknado. But if

512
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: we go to things like the Deaf Tech Times by

513
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: Ruta R. Deshpande, we'll see that drug cartels have loaded

514
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: up cows with cocaine and smuggled and used them as

515
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 3: a medium to smuggle these drugs into Europe. This is

516
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 3: pretty complex, man, and it reminds me of our recent

517
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 3: episode on Russia's Shadow Fleet. You know, the idea that

518
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: I felt like it was a troupe for a long time, man,

519
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 3: the idea that you would put something like heroin or

520
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 3: opium or cocaine into an animal to get it over

521
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 3: insert border here, it looks like it's actually happening. Each

522
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: of these vessels that are carrying these cocaine cows. They're

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00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 3: carrying up to ten thousand cows. Oh wow, and they're

524
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: sick and they're dying on purpose. The issue is to clarify,

525
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: we talked about this a little bit off air. It's

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00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 3: not the drugs in question. The stuff being smuggled is

527
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: not inserted inside the cows. The idea is that these

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00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 3: animals are sick and dying and disgusting to hang out with,

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Speaker 3: which provides the cover for the cartels.

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Speaker 2: Yes, what I've heard is that, you know, if you

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Speaker 2: imagine inspecting a ship like this right that has a

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00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 2: ton of cargo, a big cargo hold, and inside this

533
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: cargo hold, you just got these cows and they're you know,

534
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: they are so densely packed in there. And it's something

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00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 2: about the smell, I think, and the there's a lot

536
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 2: of factors that make walking around inside that cargo hold

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00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: not something an inspector wants to do.

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00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 3: Literally unsafe actually, you know, without the correct protective gear

539
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 3: or respirator. You as the investigator, or you as the

540
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: just the guy at the port whose job is to say, hey,

541
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 3: there's that cocade on this ship. It's your job to

542
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 3: be the no coke guy and you I don't get

543
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 3: the funding for a full biohazard suit. So you look

544
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 3: at this thing and you say, ah, gross Jesus, it's

545
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 3: like Friday, It's four forty five. I got stuff to do.

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00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, and the only way to actually get to

547
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: the location where the cocaine is you have to open

548
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: a hatch that is, you know, being walked on by

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00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 2: a bunch of these cows. They're just everywhere, right, So

550
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: it just makes it it's a god, it's a smart

551
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: messed up thing.

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00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: Well, let's get into the process a little bit. So

553
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: once they leave the oragin port, the crew will take

554
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 3: the packages, the packs, and they'll attach them to little

555
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: floaties essentially little buoys, well, little floating boys. Right, Like,

556
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 3: what are those things that go around people's biceps, kids,

557
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: biceps and pools?

558
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: I was called them floaties floaties?

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00:36:55,080 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, those things something like that. You throw your

560
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: packet cocaine out onto a floaty. You've got a GPS tracker,

561
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: and you throw these things overboard of predetermined points in

562
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 3: the ocean and at specific times, and then smaller boats

563
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: swim up and retrieve the packages and take them to

564
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 3: you know, other ports that are less heavily surveiled. Right,

565
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: and then going back to our Russian shadow or ghost

566
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Speaker 3: fleet episode, these ships are sailing under flags of convenience.

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00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 3: Shout out to Panama, right, shout out to Gabon.

568
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: Yep, and I guess shout out to the drones that

569
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Speaker 2: are killing people on boats that are trying to pick

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00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: up some of these packages.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Jesus well, a lot of those folks who are

572
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: being attacked by the US military are not cartel. I

573
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 3: just want to be very clear about that. Again. This

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Speaker 3: is Wednesday, December third, twenty five. A war in Venezuela

575
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:12,479
Speaker 3: is going to be both.

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00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,479
Speaker 2: It feels like it from this point of view.

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00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: Right, everybody knows. I'm not saying Meduro is a good guy.

578
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying that a war against Venezuela right now is

579
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 3: going to be bulle and do not fall for it.

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00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: Mmm mmmm. Reminds you of some things we're going to

581
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Speaker 2: be talking about in the next segment, ben about bullet war.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Before we move to the last act of our

583
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 3: weekly Strange News segment, I want to give a couple

584
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: of quick shout outs, if I may, friends and neighbors,

585
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 3: fellow conspiracy realist. If you find yourself in the nation

586
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 3: of Japan, watch out for bear attacks. There's a record

587
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: high frequency of bear attacks right now, such that bear

588
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 3: attack shelters called life Shield containers are going on sale.

589
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 3: So if you ever worry about, you know, Japanese bears

590
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: coming for you, you can buy one of these little containers.

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00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: This whoa, yeah, yep. There are a lot of issues unfortunately,

592
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: as the local population bears is further encroached upon in

593
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: their natural habitat, and they're also wandering out because bears

594
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 3: are smart, just like many other higher order mammals. You know,

595
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: I bet a bear at a raccoon at some point

596
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 3: will team up with a raven to pulized.

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00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 2: That's gotta happen.

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00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 3: That's already happened. It's the new homeward bound. We also

599
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 3: know a guy just got jammed up on theft charges

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00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: because he housed a Faberge egg. So do look into

601
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 3: our ridiculous history episode on the history of Faberge eggs,

602
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 3: which is as ridiculous as it sounds.

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Speaker 2: So is it gonna come out in one piece or

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're intricate, right, They're they're intricate. We uh,

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Speaker 3: we're not gonna go too far into it. There is

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Speaker 3: one thing that I want to save for the very end.

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Speaker 3: So before we do that, let's pause for a word

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Speaker 3: from our sponsors.

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Speaker 2: And we've returned. We're gonna do some rapid fire updates

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Speaker 2: here and Ben, I think you've still got several more stories.

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00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: We're just gonna pepper them in at you in the segment.

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00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: The first one deals with ICE, the US Immigration and

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Speaker 2: Customs Enforcement. What is it? It's just US Immigration and

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Speaker 2: Customs Enforcement. They don't have an agency or an administration.

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Speaker 2: At the end there, they have earmarked several million dollars

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Speaker 2: to purchase twenty armored vehicles MRAPs, like we've discussed before

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Speaker 2: on this show. They're purchasing them from the Canadian defense

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Speaker 2: manufacturer Rochelle r sh e L. And specifically, these are

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Speaker 2: the Senator Staying Emergency Response Tactical Vehicles or m raps.

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Speaker 2: You can look at those over at Ruschelle dot com

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Speaker 2: again R s h e l dot com. You can

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Speaker 2: go down and just check these things out. They look

624
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: like kind of like Humby's, like an m RAP you

625
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: may have seen in a video game or on the news.

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Speaker 2: You know when you're watching military actions or.

627
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Speaker 3: On the streets for some of us, or.

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Speaker 2: On the streets in certain places. Right, we talked about

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Speaker 2: sheriff's departments purchasing these as army surplus and that kind

630
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Speaker 2: of thing. Yep, this one in particular, though from Rochelle

631
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Speaker 2: looks it just looks fancy and new and very gun

632
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: metal black. To me, it looks intimidating as all heck,

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00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: and I just wonder how it will be used, And

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Speaker 2: I also wonder how much of it is a response

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Speaker 2: to the recent attack where there was a shooting I

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00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 2: believe by a man associated with Afghanistan and the CIA.

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Speaker 3: Right, he served ten years working with the company before

638
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 3: assassinating to national or before attacking to National Guard members

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Speaker 3: in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 2: And as of Wednesday, December third, we're recording I believe

641
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 2: one of those individuals he attacked has died.

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00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: Yes, the twenty year old female guard.

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00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 4: Yes.

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00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: And one may wonder is this purchasing a direct response

645
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 2: to that happening, and then you know, protecting other agents

646
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: from a different group out there operating within cities in

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Speaker 2: the US. Who knows. It does feel like an escalation

648
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: a bit. The second news here that's directly attached to

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Speaker 2: this is that all National Guard around Washington, DC will

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Speaker 2: now be armed, at least according to the Pentagon. So

651
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Speaker 2: we've got m raps with ice, we've got armed military

652
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: personnel now patrolling around the capitol of the United States.

653
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: It just feels like one of those tiny little movements

654
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 2: towards something else.

655
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've talked about this in the past, and I

656
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: agree with you. I think we shouldn't even call it

657
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 3: prescient nor predictive at this point because the militarization of

658
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 3: the police, the violations of things like pass commentatas are

659
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 3: going to increasingly come to bear in ways that folks

660
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 3: cannot ignore. There are deep divides here in these United States.

661
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: The stuff is going to get hairy. Okay, there's no

662
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 3: way around it. This is not an original sin nor

663
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 3: a unique problem. This happens to many other countries, many

664
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 3: other cultures throughout history. And the thing we have to

665
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 3: remember is that precedent exists. It is not normal, nor natural,

666
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: nor appropriate for a government or any kind of ruling

667
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 3: body to treat its populace as criminals.

668
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 2: Agreed. Agreed, And if you want to check these stories out,

669
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 2: head on over to CBC and read Kyle Dugan's article

670
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: from December second, ice ordering fleet of twenty armored vehicles

671
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: from Brampton, Ontario firm, And you can also head on

672
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 2: over to The Guardian and read Joseph Gideon's December second article.

673
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 2: Pentagon says every National Guard soldier deployed in Washington, DC

674
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: is now armed. On a a slightly positive note, A

675
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: mysterious note. We've talked before on this show about flight

676
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: MH three to seventy. That's Malaysia Airlines flight MH three

677
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 2: seventy and it's disappearance. Well eleven years after the disappearance,

678
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: there is finally another attempt to locate the plane, to locate,

679
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: you know, a black box, figure out what the heck happened,

680
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: solve some of the mystery surrounding there, and bring some

681
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: closure to all of the families of the people who

682
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: are on that plane when it went down. This we

683
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 2: have mentioned this before. There's been talks about this a ton.

684
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: It's a specific company that is going to be working

685
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 2: on this. They're called Ocean Infinity. We've mentioned them before.

686
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: They're based in the UK and the US and they

687
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: are supposed to start searching for about fifty to fifty

688
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: five days in late December of this year, So hopefully

689
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: we're gonna get some answers on that very soon.

690
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 3: And one thing I was thinking about up in this regard, folks,

691
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 3: we like several of us in the audience, have been

692
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: following this investigation for a long time. One thing that

693
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: I thought about that I think is gonna happen is this,

694
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 3: Matt Dyllan. The ocean is so absolutely huge that we

695
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 3: made up a dumb word for it, oceanic right to

696
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 3: describe something big and deep. That's the literal word. So

697
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 3: I would not be surprised if in this search, even

698
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: if the investigators do not discover the plane we're looking for,

699
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 3: I would not be surprised if they find something else.

700
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 3: It is quite possible.

701
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, maybe an extraterrestrial base now I mean, or

702
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: an intra base, or an ancient terst real base.

703
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: I mean, we got to check with But I love

704
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 3: that you're in my head on that one, because there's

705
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 3: so much stuff down there. There's so much stuff down there.

706
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: I well, yeah, if you when you really visualize what

707
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: it's like to scan the the surf, But what what

708
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: do you call the bottom of the ocean? To scan

709
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 2: that with all the various pieces of technology that we've

710
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: got now that are pretty incredible, and we can do

711
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: some awesome things with satellites with chefs, but you still

712
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: can't get the full details. The only way to do

713
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: that is to send submersibles down. And we know how

714
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 2: precarious that situation is and how small of a footprint

715
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: you actually get to visualize at a time when you're

716
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: operating a submersible.

717
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got one thousand haystacks. You've got a tiny needle,

718
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 3: like a smaller needle than usual. And James Cameron is

719
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 3: not available, he had a scheduling conflict. Yeah, so how

720
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: are you gonna How are you gonna find this stuff?

721
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 3: But we do have to I say, we as in

722
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 3: civilization overall, not the four of us here tonight on

723
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: the show, folks, how are we going to bring justice

724
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 3: to these people? Sometimes you have to embark upon these

725
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 3: herculean endeavors, you know. And the weirdest thing about it

726
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: is to your point that whether or not this investigation

727
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 3: is successful in terms of finding the plane, it will

728
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 3: inevitably be successful in terms of advancing our understanding of

729
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 3: the ocean and advancing science in several regards. You know,

730
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 3: it reminds me of years ago a mystery series we

731
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 3: did called Missing in Alaska. That was the first season

732
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 3: of a continuing mystery series. Please check it out. The creator,

733
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 3: John Wallzac is an absolute mention. We found ourselves, as

734
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 3: you recall, Matt in the hinterlands of Alaska searching for

735
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 3: a plane that carried two US Congress members and simply disappeared.

736
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

737
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 3: I don't want to spoil the show, but to check

738
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Speaker 3: it out. So I don't know, man, I think it's worthwhile.

739
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 3: And I hate to think of the people who lost

740
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 3: folks on that plane. And for more than a decade

741
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 3: they've been saying what happened? You know, So I hope

742
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 3: they get answers.

743
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: Agreed, Agreed. I couldn't agree more. Last little quick update here.

744
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 2: We've been talking a lot about comets, specifically three I Atlas,

745
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 2: an interstellar version of a comet. There have been several

746
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: other comets from our neck of the woods that have

747
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 2: been getting in the news recently, and just some very

748
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 2: cool news. This is science news, and it could change

749
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: a whole lot of things now that humanity knows this

750
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: thing ready, there is an asteroid Benu I think b E,

751
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 2: N n U, and there were samples taken from this comet.

752
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 2: They were extracted samples. Well, let me just say it

753
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: this way. This is from an article from New Scientists.

754
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: Asteroid Benu carries all the ingredients for life as we

755
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: know it. Here, here are the details. In twenty twenty,

756
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: NASAs of Cyrus REX mission extracted samples from Benu, and

757
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: asteroid that was orbiting the Sun hundreds of millions of

758
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 2: kilometers away between Mars and Jupiter. The mission returned samples

759
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 2: to Earth in twenty twenty three. Since then, small amounts

760
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 2: of the one hundred and twenty one grams not much

761
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: stuff collected have been sent out to labs across the

762
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 2: globe for analysis. And we're talking about specialists and detecting

763
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: each type of biological compound. Here they are looking for

764
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: the seeds of life. What are like Could asteroids and

765
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: comets carry the thing that is required for life to

766
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: spring forth from nothing?

767
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 3: Depandspermia?

768
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 2: Argument, Yes, and they found it. Found sugars for the

769
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: first time in one of these things, one of these

770
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 2: objects that's just hurling around in the Solar System, which

771
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: makes me think that it is possible, which you know,

772
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: it sends me down sci fi threads, which is, could

773
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: you arm a commet with these things right to where

774
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 2: it is? It is essentially a delivery system of life

775
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: that you could send towards rocky planets, let's say, or

776
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: any planet that has enough of a solid surface at

777
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 2: some point within it that you could discould land on

778
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: it and then you start life. Right.

779
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: It's it's interesting because it also we're coming from a

780
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 3: terra based perspective, right. It's something we've talked about previously

781
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: with the very anthrocentric idea or terracentric idea of the

782
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 3: Goldilock zone, where people will say, oh, how did these

783
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 3: specific things happen just so we could be a live

784
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 3: That's not really what happened. Life happened to conform to

785
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: the existing conditions, right. So the idea of building out purposely, right,

786
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 3: some civilization out there in the ink, building purposely a

787
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 3: delivery device to create life over the long term, they

788
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 3: would be sending a thing that they understand, right, Like

789
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: if you cook one kind of cake, you bake one

790
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 3: kind of cake, you send those cake ingredients to the

791
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 3: house the next door over. But if you are perhaps

792
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 3: a silicon based civilization or a helium based civilization. You're

793
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 3: sending ingredients for a very different cake, and you're going

794
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 3: to a very different oven, you know what I mean.

795
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: Once you got to arm the you know, you got

796
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: to prepare those ingredients, knowing because you've already analyzed the planet, right,

797
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: you know, Oh, this one's going to require.

798
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 3: This, right, right. If you're highly evolved enough, then you

799
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 3: would perhaps be able to look at a little hood

800
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 3: somewhere in a solar system and say, hey, we aim

801
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 3: for this gas giant and we put these cake ingredients in,

802
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 3: or hey, forget those planets, they're malarchy. We want to

803
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: we want to insiminate the star, you know, we want

804
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 3: to create something that can live within the Sun, which

805
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 3: is all possible because a lot of stuff is possible.

806
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 3: Speak you know, apologies, folks, Matt said something about going

807
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 3: sci fi and I just forgot to pump my own

808
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 3: brakes for as.

809
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: It just opens up so many pathways of what it

810
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 2: could mean. But let me read a little more from

811
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 2: this article just so we have a better understanding. The

812
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: first studies, when they were basically blasting apart these these

813
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: tiny little particles that were taken from BNU, they found water, carbon,

814
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 2: several organic molecules. Then they found amino acids, formaldehyde, They

815
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: found all five of the nucleobases found in both RNA

816
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 2: and DNA. They found phosphates. But the thing they were

817
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 2: missing were these sugars, because in order to form RNA

818
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: fully and DNA fully, you need a couple of sugars

819
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: ribos for RNA and deoxy ribos for DNA. Those were

820
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 2: just missing from the first couple of samples. They couldn't

821
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: find them. Then at oh gosh, I'm gonna butcher this

822
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 2: Tohoku University in Japan, this person, Yoshihiro Furukawa, he and

823
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: his colleagues found ribos and several other sugars likesos xylos,

824
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 2: a rabinose, glucose, and galactose, but not deoxyribos. So interestingly enough,

825
00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: you could make RNA things with the concoction there. You

826
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 2: couldn't make DNA stuff unless you had something else.

827
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 3: Based on what our friends have found, we also need

828
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 3: to note, just get in front of the emails. Here

829
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 3: were conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com. Just to get in

830
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 3: front of the emails. The fact that this stuff has

831
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 3: not been found before in other instances does not mean

832
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 3: it did not exist. It's really a measure of methodology

833
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 3: and technological innovation, and it's a tremendous credit to the

834
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 3: boffins over there in Japan. You know, this is super

835
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 3: cool stuff man.

836
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 2: Well, and just the fact that we're going out, we're

837
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: sending missions out to collect things from these objects. Right,

838
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 2: How cool is it when you conceive of being able

839
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: to link up with one of these things somewhere out

840
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: in space and then bring it back.

841
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 3: Just think about the math people, like the next time

842
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:03,479
Speaker 3: you're playing pool on the On the rare occasions when

843
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 3: we get to hang out outside of work, we love

844
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 3: playing the games, right, you know, we're both ted Lasso's

845
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 3: with the darts. We love playing pool. No offense to

846
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 3: either of us, but we're not you know, we're not

847
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 3: like Olympic level pool players. But every time, this is

848
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 3: so weird. I never told you this. Every time I

849
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 3: play pool with you and I pull off haha, a

850
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 3: cool shot. I think of the math involved in finding

851
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 3: asteroids or landing on the moon, you know, just calculating

852
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 3: objects in space. It's it's fascinating. We're learning so much

853
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 3: more about the concept of life, right. The Wither and

854
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 3: Wins of what it means for a thing to exist

855
00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 3: as a life form, and that is to say it.

856
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 3: It's a perfect segue to our closing story.

857
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 2: Well take us there here we.

858
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 3: Are, all right, I'll do an eighties stand up comic voice.

859
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 3: Dylan is meat tapping the bike? All right? What else?

860
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 3: What else? What else? Airline food? Yeah, ex girlfriends yeah?

861
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 3: Oh Chernobyl, Hey, raise your hand if you remember Chernobyl.

862
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 3: I think I know that this guy gets it, sir.

863
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 3: Where are you from?

864
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: Oh, Columbus Oil?

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Speaker 3: Nah? Classic, Classic, because we're recording this special in Columbus,

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Speaker 3: Ohio for some reason. Achron Glumbus suck all right, Okay,

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Speaker 3: settled out? No, kick him out, Kick that guy out, Acron.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, I'm just trying to do a show. Mude. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so are other people and scene. Let's see. Shout out

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Speaker 3: to all the stand ups in the crowd. It's a

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Speaker 3: rough world. So Chernobyl famously infamously had a bad day

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Speaker 3: on April twenty sixth, nineteen eighty six, a routine safety

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Speaker 3: test at their fourth reactor to call in a burst

875
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 3: of creativity. Reactor for this safety test went as wrong

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Speaker 3: as it could possibly go. It became one of the

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Speaker 3: world's worst nuclear incidents, and this was due to design

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Speaker 3: operational errors. This is the part where our pow Noll

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Speaker 3: would point out the amazing HBO adaptation or dramatization of

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00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 3: the incident called Chernobyl. It's a great show. Check it out.

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Speaker 3: Because of this disaster, the authorities made a nineteen mile

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Speaker 3: exclusion zone. This ended up being really great for biodiversity

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Speaker 3: and for non human animals, sort of like the DMZ

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Speaker 3: on the Korean Peninsula, which is a different story anyway,

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Speaker 3: that's the context. This is why we're talking about Chernobyl.

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Speaker 3: After we talked about panspermia and what life could be.

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Speaker 3: What are the ingredients of the cake. We have recently

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Speaker 3: learned that black fungus in Chernobyl, in just in a

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Speaker 3: relatively small amount of time, it has evolved to turn

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Speaker 3: nuclear radiation into energy and it may be able to

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Speaker 3: aid space travel in the future. This is coming from

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Speaker 3: Rigakshi dixit at Interesting Engineering. This is nuts because we

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Speaker 3: already kind of knew that this could happen. We already

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Speaker 3: cut We actually talked about this in the past, that

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Speaker 3: there was a black bold mysterious black mold discovered in

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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety seven that was colonizing the literal ruins of

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Speaker 3: the chernobyl plant. But the research is revealing that this

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Speaker 3: stuff is not just surviving, it's thriving. It's very different

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Speaker 3: from the higher order animals that are living in the

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Speaker 3: exclusion zone, many of whom are cursed with short lifespans,

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Speaker 3: riddled with cancer from exposure, or at least they were

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Speaker 3: for a time. This thing is cooking, it's eaten.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's weird. It's eating the ionized radiation, or it's

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Speaker 2: using it in the same way it would use radiation

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Speaker 2: from the sun for photosynthesis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because of the melanin, right, what I know. I'm sorry,

907
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Speaker 3: I'm going to Dennis, you haven't thought of the melanin.

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Speaker 2: I think about that when I think about my freckles

909
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Speaker 2: and skin cancer. And I'm literally going to the dermatologist

910
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 2: after this to get my skin checked because.

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01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 3: I got to show you one of my new ones.

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Speaker 2: But really I'm doing that because of the melanin and

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Speaker 2: the way my skin functions doesn't do so great with

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Speaker 2: that solar radiation.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, because you go out in the sun.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm allowed to. I'm a forty two years old, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, stop stop high roding me. I'll fight you after dark,

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Speaker 3: all right. So no, we are both frankly entities. So

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Speaker 3: melanin appears to be the secret ingredient here. It's like

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Speaker 3: you were saying, Matt, it's the thing that gives humans

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Speaker 3: varying skin tones, for instance, and also can protect the

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Speaker 3: human from ultraviolet rays. These fungal entities have melanin and

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Speaker 3: it may be shielding them. At least that was the

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01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 3: initial idea, but a study back in two thousand and

925
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 3: seven proved that a particular type of fungus with a

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Speaker 3: heavy amount of melanin could not just grow around radioactive material,

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Speaker 3: but would in fact grow ten percent faster when it

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Speaker 3: was exposed to certain types of radioactive substances. And like

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Speaker 3: you were saying, they ate it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Like for them, it's protein powder that you take before

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01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 3: you work out, and they're just getting their reps in,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And there are no humans

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Speaker 3: around to say, hey we've got to mitigate this mold,

934
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 3: or hey that's super preepy. Why is that a thing?

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Speaker 3: So it just kept going.

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Speaker 2: It's intense and the reason why it shouldn't work. The

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Speaker 2: article you linked to here the interesting engineering article. It

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Speaker 2: says here that ionizing radiation is around one million times

939
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Speaker 2: higher than the energy of white light, so just light

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Speaker 2: from the sun that's using photosynthesis a million times higher.

941
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Speaker 2: But this stuff just says not even a thing in fact, Yomo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this stuff is drinking the concentrate, you know what

943
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 3: I mean, And most of the rest of life on

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Speaker 3: the planet is drinking this diluted bs white light, you know, photosynthesis.

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Speaker 3: Bunch of clowns.

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Speaker 2: It's so intense. Are there other It feels like there

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Speaker 2: are other applications for.

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Speaker 3: This one hundred percent. Yeah, And that's an excellent segue there,

949
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 3: because we put it in the headlight. There is a

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Speaker 3: possibility worth ex exploring that you could take this particular

951
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Speaker 3: type of mold into outer space and use it as

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Speaker 3: a shielding device because it absorbs and thrives off certain

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Speaker 3: kinds of radiation. You could also possibly harvest the energy

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Speaker 3: that that thing takes. What I know, right.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about like like space travel. One of the

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01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 2: biggest things is the radiation, right, and you need incredible

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Speaker 2: shielding to do that. So you're saying we could like

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Speaker 2: cover something in mold that's like a shield.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you man, they're the best astronauts out there currently.

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Speaker 3: The best organic astronauts currently are going to be fungal

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Speaker 3: life forms. Okay sorry, Tartar grades, tartar plates are like

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Speaker 3: the Marines. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, Tartar grades can hit hard,

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01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 3: you know, and they will ride or die with you.

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Speaker 3: But but the mold there's a little more air force.

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Speaker 2: E got it. Okay, air force. Well, the tartar grades

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Speaker 2: mostly won't die though, right, They'll just be like, eh, whatever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll just enter torpor, they'll go to they take naps. Yeah, basically,

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Speaker 3: the tartar grade will take a nap. But if we

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Speaker 3: go to NASA astrobiologist Lynn J. Rothschild will see the

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01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 3: concept of mico architecture. So not just using not just

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Speaker 3: using the fun guys for no joke left by, not

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Speaker 3: just using the fun guys for shielding on a spacecraft,

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Speaker 3: but indeed to use this stuff to create structures, maybe

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Speaker 3: on the Moon, maybe on Mars, a wall of fungal

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Speaker 3: flesh that protects you from the radiation.

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Speaker 2: Now, halt on it.

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Speaker 3: Nothing creepy, nothing weird, but very creepy, very weird.

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Speaker 2: If black mold gets into my house or your house,

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Speaker 2: that is a not good thing. And you're gonna die

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01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 2: eventually because of that black mold. And if you try

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Speaker 2: and sell that house with black mold, you're in trouble.

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01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: Unless you tell people there's black mold in that house,

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Speaker 2: you're saying, I'm gonna live inside black mold.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a different kind of mold though, it's space mold. Okay, right,

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Speaker 3: Like doing a space ghost reference, I get it.

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Speaker 2: What if you have, let's say, a comet shaped interstellar spacecraft,

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01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 2: what if you just covered it with stone, as we

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01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: learned it's one of the best shields as well as

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Speaker 2: this ionizing black.

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Speaker 3: Mold shark tank me here, it would look a.

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Speaker 2: Lot like, I don't know, just a comet flying through

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01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 2: the Solar System. Yeah, nothing to see here. Those are

993
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 2: just ice jets, we promise, says the hidden spacecraft that

994
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Speaker 2: looks like a comet.

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