WEBVTT - "MY AUNT HIT ON ME"

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<v Speaker 1>I ran it by my family, my whole family and

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<v Speaker 1>my sister and my wife, and they all agree because

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<v Speaker 1>she's just wild. She's he just wilds out and does

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<v Speaker 1>these things, so it wouldn't surprise me. And she thought, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of want to fuck my nephew today. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a mess, Alex.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hey, Alex, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I am doing well? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Gek It says here you think your aunt might have

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<v Speaker 2>sexted you today?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so it kind of gave off the feeling of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess some background. She's kind of uh, she's

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<v Speaker 1>cheated on my uncle before, so you know she's kind

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<v Speaker 1>she's kind of out there. And the text do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to read the text?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, let's hear the text, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So she texts me and she says, hey, Alex, I

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<v Speaker 1>got fired from my job today and I told insert

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<v Speaker 1>my uncle's name, I feel like me and you should bond.

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<v Speaker 1>All jokes aside, I'm a mess.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the text.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the text. And it just led me to believe

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<v Speaker 1>the only time you would insert I'm a mess and

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<v Speaker 1>we should bond is if you're trying to cop a feel.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna throw this out here immediately. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I I I think I think something's going

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<v Speaker 2>on with you that you're interpreting that text sexually.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. We'll see here, we're not very close, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really speak to her, so we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of relationship, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But so here's my question, why would Okay, you and

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<v Speaker 2>your aunt are not very close with each other, so

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<v Speaker 2>it would make sense that she wants to hang out

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<v Speaker 2>with you, bond with you, form a closer relationship with you, especially,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if if things aren't going well with her husband,

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<v Speaker 2>only because she wants to have more time with her family.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm wondering why exactly you think there is a

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<v Speaker 2>sexual connotation here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it just has more to do with the circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if she sent this text, it just has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with with I guess it's more of who

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<v Speaker 1>she is. So the way I would take her, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that the way her perception is, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. What do you think? What's your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when you say you when you say that this

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<v Speaker 2>interpretation that she is hitting on you comes from who

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<v Speaker 2>she is? What is it about her that makes you

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<v Speaker 2>think this is a sexual text.

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<v Speaker 1>Because she's just wild. She's she just wilds out and

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<v Speaker 1>does these things. She cheats, she's you know, she's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of who she is. So it wouldn't surprise me if

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<v Speaker 1>she thought, Man, I kind of want to fuck my

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<v Speaker 1>nephew today. I'm a mess.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think, I mean, granted, are you ran it

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<v Speaker 2>by someone?

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<v Speaker 1>I ran it by my family, my whole family, and

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<v Speaker 1>my sister and my wife, and they all agree. My

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<v Speaker 1>mom said she was drunk when she sent the So

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<v Speaker 1>I think that adds more to the equation.

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<v Speaker 2>Your mom and your wife, and who is the other person?

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<v Speaker 1>My dad and my sister, Your mom, your wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Your dad, and your sister, all of them unanimously think

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<v Speaker 2>that you're all just trying to fuck you. Yes, really

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<v Speaker 2>has she ever? Because I would say that. Look, cheating

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<v Speaker 2>is one thing, but I feel like cheating and incest

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<v Speaker 2>are not in the same category. I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that would cheat is also somebody that would commit

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<v Speaker 2>in sexual incestual sex acts. It's a tongue twister in

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<v Speaker 2>had incestual sex acts.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was a that was a good one,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. But I think she has a thing with uh,

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<v Speaker 1>just blurred lines. You know, she's not blood related. It's

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<v Speaker 1>my mom's dad's wife. I mean my mom's brother's wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, all right, this makes a little slightly more plausible.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's your uncles. You and your uncle are blood related,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is your uncle's wife. Correct. Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not as bad as if it was your blood

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<v Speaker 2>on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's yeah. I think if this

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<v Speaker 1>is my blood related aunt, then I wouldn't have jumped

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<v Speaker 1>straight to Oh, she's trying to cop a field. It's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to diddle me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, No, that's important.

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<v Speaker 1>There's I guess there's a lot more into it, into

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<v Speaker 1>the equation.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what else fact is to the equation?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's just it all that m hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So what's next here for you? Are you? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you respond to this text?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>See that's that. This was what was next. I said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I should speak to a get go to decide

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<v Speaker 1>what I do next. I did not respond.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't respond? Okay, well I did not. What would

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<v Speaker 2>be an ideal outcome for you? Do you do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to spend more time with your aunt?

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<v Speaker 1>No? Not at this point. Not at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmmm. I feel like it would make sense for

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<v Speaker 2>you to leave the text alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Then does leave it be no need to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>go further with it or tell my uncle? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>a thing? Should I do that?

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<v Speaker 2>You think it was?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, here's my thought.

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<v Speaker 2>If it was, please tell me your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was a different situations, say your best friend's

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend was coming on to you kind of like that, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>i'm a mess, we should bond. I feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>would tell your best friend. But when it's your aunt,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do you tell your uncle? That's different. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a different ballgame.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your relationship like with your uncle?

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<v Speaker 5>You're pretty close.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, here's the thing. And I don't know your aunt,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm just I'm not sold that this is a

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<v Speaker 2>sexual text.

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<v Speaker 1>So you think there's a chance she was just drunk mess?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. I mean, I'm a copy of bond

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<v Speaker 2>though I take things at face value. If your aunt

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<v Speaker 2>says that she wants to bond with you more, but

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<v Speaker 2>then you threw in the thing about how she's not

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<v Speaker 2>your blood aunts, and that made the whole situation a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more plausible. But I would say that if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to get involved with the situation. You

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<v Speaker 2>might just want to leave the text alone. What does

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<v Speaker 2>your wife think you should do?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think she said leave the text alone. Hey, babe,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think I should do with the text? Nothing?

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<v Speaker 1>She says nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I talk to her real quick just before we go?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can absolutely speak to her Mischian.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hi, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 4>Mary?

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<v Speaker 2>Mary? Mary? I feel I think it would be nice

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<v Speaker 2>to get your perspective on this. I personally don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that this text is giving off vibes that Alex's aunt

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<v Speaker 2>wants to have sex with him. But you you sound

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<v Speaker 2>like you you think otherwise.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, from what I can tell, me and my whole

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<v Speaker 6>are recently married. So she's been married since October. And

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<v Speaker 6>the first time I met her was at the wedding,

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<v Speaker 6>and none of my husband's family really liked her, and

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<v Speaker 6>everyone was kind of like stand offish about why they

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<v Speaker 6>didn't like her. Some then, you know, I kind of

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<v Speaker 6>started to cry a little bit more. And apparently she

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<v Speaker 6>has a history of kind of just cheating and not

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<v Speaker 6>being there for the right reasons. And it's hard to

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<v Speaker 6>explain her personality because she's kind of shy, but it

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<v Speaker 6>almost is like like she's trying to get something from

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<v Speaker 6>you while trying to act polite. So I could definitely

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<v Speaker 6>see why. It's like, why everyone thinks it she does

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<v Speaker 6>not have good intentions.

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<v Speaker 5>With the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Or have you advised Alex to leave it alone rather

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<v Speaker 2>than pursue this any further.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, of course he just wants to find out what

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<v Speaker 6>it is so he can kill his buddies or whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>Like I really don't care if he does.

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<v Speaker 2>But you think, okay, So you think do you think okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So you just brought up a very interesting element. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think that he almost secretly wants to interpret this

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<v Speaker 2>text as his aunt wanting to have sex with him

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<v Speaker 2>so that he can use it as a flex?

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<v Speaker 6>See I thought that at first. However, he didn't reach

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<v Speaker 6>out to his friends first. He immediately went to his

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<v Speaker 6>mom and dad because they don't like the girl and

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<v Speaker 6>that makes me think otherwise. And then once everyone else agreed,

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<v Speaker 6>he sent it to his friends group Chad and was like, hey, like,

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<v Speaker 6>what do y'all think about this? And everyone's like yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>Like I feel like she is not asking.

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<v Speaker 2>He's kind of using it as a flex a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit to be like, Hey, my aunt wants to have

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<v Speaker 2>sex with because guys like I Because look, I feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, guys gain a lot of confidence just from

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<v Speaker 2>like not even from like sleeping with women, but just

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<v Speaker 2>from like a knowing that they would want to. And

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<v Speaker 2>is there something like that going on with him? But

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<v Speaker 2>with his aunt?

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<v Speaker 7>It's possible.

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<v Speaker 6>It's definitely possible. I mean I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't say it's out of question.

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<v Speaker 6>But I mean I don't blame him. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 6>just guys to having fun. It's like harmless fun. Yes,

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<v Speaker 6>if he kept bagging on with the aunt, then that'd

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<v Speaker 6>be a concern. And like he's been keeping me updated

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<v Speaker 6>with like all what his friends say, and like we've

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<v Speaker 6>been laughing about it all day. So it's not I

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<v Speaker 6>don't it's not bothering me.

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<v Speaker 1>In any way.

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<v Speaker 6>But I mean, yes, I do. I do think he

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<v Speaker 6>is trying to impress it from in some sort.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you very much for sharing. Mary. Can I

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<v Speaker 2>talk to Alex and we'll wrap it up?

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<v Speaker 5>You can.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, gig Hey, Alex.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm well, man, I'm well.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen Alex. Before we go, I want to I want

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<v Speaker 2>to bring up this sort of theory that Mary and

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<v Speaker 2>I are talking about here secretly, secretly. Do you consider

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<v Speaker 2>it a flex that your aunt wants to have sex

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<v Speaker 2>with you?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Hey, thank you for calling, Alex, appreciate you sharing

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<v Speaker 2>a story with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Greg, you have a great night.

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<v Speaker 2>People take what they can get in this world. Anything,

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<v Speaker 2>anything to make them feel like they're wanted, they're attractive,

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<v Speaker 2>People will take it. That's the world we live in,

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<v Speaker 2>That's how our brains work. So I felt no one

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<v Speaker 2>for nothing.

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<v Speaker 7>Hello, Hello, Hi?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this I'm gonna fuck up pronouncing your name? But

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<v Speaker 2>can I try? Can I try? And you can tell

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<v Speaker 2>me if I did it right?

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<v Speaker 6>Safe?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it safe?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a genius. How do people because how do people

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<v Speaker 2>normally pronounce it? Because I have people probably fuck it

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<v Speaker 2>up a lot. What are the most common fuck ups

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<v Speaker 2>of that name?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh? My god, I get so many. I get Paige,

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<v Speaker 4>I get face like like your face.

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<v Speaker 2>How do people How do people get Paige from Safe?

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<v Speaker 4>I really don't know. Oh, honestly, I guess because they

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<v Speaker 4>sound similar. I never understood it, though, but I've been

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<v Speaker 4>getting it my whole life.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, page, what's going on with you?

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing much? And just watching your stream.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, it says here you told a person this.

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<v Speaker 2>You called the phone number, a person asked you what

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<v Speaker 2>you wanted to talk about, and you told them that

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<v Speaker 2>you get nightmares every You've been having nightmares every single

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<v Speaker 2>night for your entire life. Is this correct?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>What is that?

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<v Speaker 5>Like?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's horrible. It's been going on since my whole life,

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<v Speaker 4>like literally since I was a child, since like I

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<v Speaker 4>was four years old. And they're like really intense and

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<v Speaker 4>like gruesome.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been happening every single night without fits as you're

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years old. They started when you were four years old?

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<v Speaker 2>And has it been sixteen years? Every single night of

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<v Speaker 2>these nightmares.

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<v Speaker 4>Every single night.

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<v Speaker 2>Every single night?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And is it the same nightmare or are we talking

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<v Speaker 2>different nightmares?

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<v Speaker 4>So some of them are the same, Like I've had

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<v Speaker 4>some since I was a child, and they'll be like

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<v Speaker 4>exactly the same from years ago. But sometimes they're just

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<v Speaker 4>brand new ones. Sometimes they're similar situations, you know, So

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<v Speaker 4>it's really weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me about the most reoccurring one that you've had

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the past sixteen years.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So I am in this like weird mall, and

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<v Speaker 4>there's like like an alarm going off, like flashing lights,

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<v Speaker 4>and people are like running to get out of the mall,

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<v Speaker 4>and I am just like wandering around. I'm like seeing

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<v Speaker 4>all the stores and stuff like that, and it's like

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<v Speaker 4>a it's like a normal mall, but like you could

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<v Speaker 4>tell that it's off. And so I'm walking around and

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<v Speaker 4>I get to the well. There's some other stuff that happens,

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<v Speaker 4>but basically I get to the roof and it turns

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<v Speaker 4>out it was a zombie apocalypse and the zombies are

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<v Speaker 4>coming through the door. I'm on the ledge of the

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<v Speaker 4>roof and all my friends and family are down below,

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<v Speaker 4>like on the floor, and they're telling me that the

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<v Speaker 4>only way to stop the zombie apocalypse apocalypse is if

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<v Speaker 4>I jump off, and then I ends up jumping and

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<v Speaker 4>waking up right before I hit the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. Okay, so you're dangling on off of or you're

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<v Speaker 2>dangling or you like you're you're like standing by the

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<v Speaker 2>edge of this roof.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm standing by the edge.

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<v Speaker 2>You're standing by the edge behind you as a horde

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<v Speaker 2>of zombies below you, as all your friends and family

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<v Speaker 2>telling you to jump off the building and kill yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, So how does that feel like watching all your

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<v Speaker 2>friends and family tell you to jump off a building

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<v Speaker 2>and kill yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it used to be like really like like impactful

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<v Speaker 4>to me. Like I used to like wake up and

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<v Speaker 4>think about it like all day when I would get

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<v Speaker 4>the nightmare. But now since it's like kind of happened

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<v Speaker 4>so much, I'm just kind of, like I want to say,

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<v Speaker 4>like numb to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I have so many questions. Uh so, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I just forgot all of them. So how often does

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<v Speaker 2>this particular nightmare take place?

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<v Speaker 4>Probably maybe twice a month?

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<v Speaker 2>Twice a month, Okay, And so you say you become

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<v Speaker 2>numb to this? Does there become a point, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what lucid dreaming is, right where you know

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<v Speaker 2>that you're in a dream. Yeah, every time, Now that

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<v Speaker 2>you've had this dream so many times, has it become

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<v Speaker 2>easy for you to recognize when you're in the dream,

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<v Speaker 2>therefore giving you more control over it or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>allowing you to freak out about it less.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So, as as I've gotten older, I actually like

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<v Speaker 4>I have more lucid dreams now, So I like realize

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<v Speaker 4>that I'm in a nightmare and I try to wake

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<v Speaker 4>myself up like in the dream like I'll inch my arm.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I do in the dream, and it usually

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't work to wake me up, but at least, like

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<v Speaker 4>I know that, like I'm in a dream and I'm safe,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just have to like if it's like a

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<v Speaker 4>reoccurring dream, I just have to go through what's happening

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<v Speaker 4>in the dream so that I can wake up.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so it becomes like clockwork, You're like, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>back in the dream. All I gotta do is jump

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<v Speaker 2>off of this building and kill myself and then I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Fine, yep, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But then, okay, So if you're in the dream and

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<v Speaker 2>you know it's a dream and you know you're safe

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<v Speaker 2>and nothing back can happen to you, do you never

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<v Speaker 2>like try to make some alternate choices like go back

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<v Speaker 2>and start punching the zombies in the face, or like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, run around, or like you know, try to

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<v Speaker 2>start like maybe inching your way down the building or

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<v Speaker 2>like using a find a ladder or something like. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you never make like alternate choices now that you know

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<v Speaker 2>that none of them will will that they all end

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<v Speaker 2>with you waking up.

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<v Speaker 4>So I I've tried, like in the dream, like to

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<v Speaker 4>make like different choices, but it's always the same ending,

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<v Speaker 4>like it always ends up. I guess with this one,

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<v Speaker 4>it always ends up with me jumping off, like no

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<v Speaker 4>matter what I do, like even if I try to,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I don't know, there was one time where I

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<v Speaker 4>tried talking to my family and friends from the room.

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<v Speaker 4>They were like it was they were like hollow husks

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<v Speaker 4>of themselves, like they had no personality, and they just

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<v Speaker 4>kept on saying like the same things over and over,

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<v Speaker 4>like the only way to save everyone is if you jump,

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<v Speaker 4>like there's no way to get out of this, like

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<v Speaker 4>just a lot of stuff like that. But they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>say anything else like that, and like they I remember,

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<v Speaker 4>they were like pale, like they were pale versions of

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<v Speaker 4>themselves with like like just blank eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>So this nightmare you say is twice a month, So

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<v Speaker 2>how often is it a is it a fresh nightmare?

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<v Speaker 2>Because this one it sounds like, Okay, I've been through

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<v Speaker 2>the motions. All I gotta do is jump off the building,

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<v Speaker 2>kill myself. I'm good. But how often are you having

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with nightmares that are new to you?

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty much every other night? I only just get this one.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why I get this one. A lot,

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<v Speaker 4>but like other like repetitive dreams that I have, Like

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<v Speaker 4>I'll maybe get them once every couple of months, so

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<v Speaker 4>like really every other night is kind of like a

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<v Speaker 4>new dream.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. I almost feel like, uh, and tell me if

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<v Speaker 2>I have the wrong here, But is there is there

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<v Speaker 2>anything exciting about that? You're like, oh, it's like you're

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<v Speaker 2>opening up a new horror each night. But it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of yeah. I mean, you know, they're the exploration of

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<v Speaker 2>horror is a medium of entertainment, is a very real thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you ever look at it like that? Or am

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<v Speaker 2>I completely off?

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<v Speaker 4>No? I you're totally right, because like I also do

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<v Speaker 4>like free writing in my free time, so like I

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<v Speaker 4>will write, like I think it's like kind of interesting

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<v Speaker 4>because it's like, oh, I'm getting new inspiration every night.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how I kind of have put a spin on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, totally totally.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So you will take these dreams and you'll transmute them into.

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<v Speaker 4>Your writing, Yeah, exactly, Like I'll try to write like

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<v Speaker 4>even just like a short story about them. Yeah, just

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<v Speaker 4>like whatever happens in it, just try to get it

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<v Speaker 4>down because it's kind of like journaling and it's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like like I like writing, so it's like a

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<v Speaker 4>little therapeutic read.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh go ahead, No, it's okay. I was gonna say

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<v Speaker 2>I would totally read a book called The Safe Nightmare Journal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>have you ever thought about that? You ever thought about

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<v Speaker 2>publishing a nightmare journal?

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<v Speaker 4>Actually? Yeah, I kind of have been thinking about, like,

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<v Speaker 4>like you know, writing like a full on book about it,

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<v Speaker 4>because I don't really know anyone else who kind of

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<v Speaker 4>gets this, and I do think that it's like kind

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<v Speaker 4>of interesting. I mean, I'm sure there's like people like

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<v Speaker 4>other people, but like personally, I don't know anyone else

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<v Speaker 4>who gets this, and everyone that I tell it to,

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<v Speaker 4>they're like, you know, like that's really interesting. Obviously it's

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<v Speaker 4>but like like it's really interesting because there's no like

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<v Speaker 4>real reason why I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>What was your dream last night?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So it's it was a little much, but I

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<v Speaker 4>can't remember how it started. All I remember was like

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<v Speaker 4>the disturbing part that I was on a beach and

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<v Speaker 4>I looked down at my foot and my foot like

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<v Speaker 4>really hurt and it was like really like it felt

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<v Speaker 4>really raw. So then I take off my flip flop

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<v Speaker 4>and then it looked like a like a rotting fish. Corpse,

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<v Speaker 4>like just ripped open with like bones sticking out of it,

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<v Speaker 4>and like like just like what like a raw cut

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<v Speaker 4>open fish would look.

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<v Speaker 2>Like your foot looks like that? Yeah, And how did

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<v Speaker 2>you react to that? Are you not at a point

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, after sixteen years, are you not at a

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<v Speaker 2>point where you see you're rotting fish foot and you're like, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is nothing to me? What else you got? Brain?

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, it's been sixteen years of this. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>scare me with anything? Or is it still each night,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a fresh hit to you?

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<v Speaker 4>It still like it still feels like scary, and I

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<v Speaker 4>still get like nervous and like I have a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of anxiety about it, even though that I know that,

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<v Speaker 4>like I know none of it's real and I know

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<v Speaker 4>that it's just my brain doing this to myself, But

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<v Speaker 4>like I still get that like kind of fear, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like almost like that primal fear, because like I'm like

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<v Speaker 4>when you're asleep, you're like you're most vulnerable, and so

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<v Speaker 4>it's like if that's happening in my head, like what's

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<v Speaker 4>happening outside you know?

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<v Speaker 5>M And.

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<v Speaker 2>That that primal fear, you know, like we were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about earlier, everyone there's a lot of people out there

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<v Speaker 2>who chase that with like horror movies and haunted houses

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<v Speaker 2>and whatnot. And and how successful have you been in

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<v Speaker 2>sort of reframing your attitude toward finding a thrill from

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<v Speaker 2>these dreams.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm not someone I like get very scared of

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<v Speaker 4>like horror movies and like scary things for you, like

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<v Speaker 4>I just always have. Yeah, it's just not for me. Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I just don't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>So the final thing I kind of want to explore

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<v Speaker 2>with this is have you what have your efforts looked, like,

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<v Speaker 2>if any, to cure yourself of this. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>gone to a like dream therapist or some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>mind doctor or something to find out why this is

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<v Speaker 2>happening to you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've been to Like I've been to a couple therapists.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on like some medications for it, but really like

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<v Speaker 4>they no one knows what to do about it. They

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<v Speaker 4>don't know like how to help. I try, Like I

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<v Speaker 4>try taking melotonin, I try, you know, doing a bunch

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff to try to like get myself to stay asleep,

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<v Speaker 4>and like maybe like if I put myself in a

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<v Speaker 4>deeper sleep, maybe like I won't experience the nightmare, but

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<v Speaker 4>nothing has helped. So I'm kind of thinking about maybe

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<v Speaker 4>doing a sleep study and and like trying to find

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<v Speaker 4>someone else who can, like maybe like a sleep specialist.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if they have those there.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm sure they do. Somebody who can like hook

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<v Speaker 2>you up to some some wires or sprain scanners or

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<v Speaker 2>something and like look at the neuro patterns while you're

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<v Speaker 2>while you're asleep.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly like just like see like, oh, maybe my body

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<v Speaker 4>is like reacting to it. I don't know how I'm sleeping, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure I know it is, because like I wake

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<v Speaker 4>up in like a pool of sweat, so like I

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<v Speaker 4>know that my body is like experiencing the fear like physically.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm sure that like if I did a sleep study,

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<v Speaker 4>they'd be able to like see like when my brain

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<v Speaker 4>peaks or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that there are anything? Do you do

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<v Speaker 2>you believe that dreams tell us things about our subconscious

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<v Speaker 2>just like like this recurring dream of you having to

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<v Speaker 2>jump off a building because your family is yelling at

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 2>you and there's a zombie apocalypse and this rotting foot thing,

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<v Speaker 2>Like do you think that these are completely random firings

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<v Speaker 2>of neurons or are they trying to tell you something

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<v Speaker 2>about what you subconsciously think and feel.

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<v Speaker 4>I think some of them are like deep and like

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<v Speaker 4>I think some of them kind of are like a

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<v Speaker 4>window into my subconscious But I think like some of

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 4>them like looking down at my foot and seeing like

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 4>a dead fish corpse, Like I can't really get any

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<v Speaker 4>sort of like anything from that. I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 4>anything really from that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be trying to tell you either.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I guess like some of like the more like

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<v Speaker 4>intricate and intense ones probably have like something to do

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<v Speaker 4>with like my personality and my brain and what's going

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<v Speaker 4>on in my head. And but I'm I'm sure a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of them are probably just like what, what's a

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 4>new thing that we could throw at her tonight? You know?

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 2>And I mean it sounds like you're getting better and

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 2>better at dealing with this, I mean every single night.

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean that sounds sounds pretty exhausting.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've definitely gotten a lot better with it. Like

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 4>I know kind of well, I know like how to

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<v Speaker 4>like act in like a lucid dream. I kind of know,

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<v Speaker 4>like like if I sleep within like a certain setting,

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 4>you know, like in a cool room or something like that.

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 4>Then like, I kind of not that it's like better,

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 4>but it kind of is less intense than some other ones.

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 4>Like so I kind of I know some coping skills

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<v Speaker 4>to deal with it, but of course they're only like temporary,

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Safe, thank you for sharing this, Thank you for

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 2>sharing this with us. This was super super interesting. Is

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<v Speaker 2>there anything else that you want to say to the

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<v Speaker 2>people before we before we go?

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<v Speaker 4>I think, everyone go buy little plush gnomes I have.

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 4>We have so many in my house and they're adorable

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 4>and they make me very happy. So everyone should go

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<v Speaker 4>buy plush gnomes.

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<v Speaker 2>I like. I like that. It's a very specific thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I because everyone you know, a lot of people

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 2>when I ask them or do you have anything else

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 2>to say, they go, everyone have a good day. It's like, well,

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 2>that's not something I can't do. That that's not something

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 2>I can It's not really actionable, but I thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for providing an actionable thing for the people listening. And

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<v Speaker 2>please write the Safe Dream Journal. That is a cool

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<v Speaker 2>name for a book and I would absolutely read it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll dedicate it to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Gek beautiful, Thank you, saf have a good night, or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, try to. I will bye the Safe Dream Journal.

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<v Speaker 2>One of these days, I'm going to be browsing Amazon

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to see that pop up, and uh,

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 2>hopefully there'll be a little you know, how they know

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 2>how they have? They call at one singular page of

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 2>a dedication dedicated to the gecko guy on the computer.

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 2>I forgot what his name was, but I would definitely

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<v Speaker 2>read that book. Sasha, Hi, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty good?

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 2>How about you? I'm a gecko on the computer.

0:32:59.080 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 6>Sounds about right.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, what's going on?

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 3>Not much chilling hanging out playing computer games? Watching your stream, Sasha.

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 2>It says here you want to know if you should

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<v Speaker 2>be ashamed that you had to ship in a litter

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<v Speaker 2>box once.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I don't know that I think about it.

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's so much that I should

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<v Speaker 3>feel shame about it. I think my fiance's problem is

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<v Speaker 3>more that I'm seeing proud of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is a whole different call than I thought

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 2>it was. You were asking if you should be ashamed,

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like the question is not should you

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<v Speaker 2>be ashamed? It's you're not ashamed of shitting in the

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 2>litter box. You sound like your battle. Well, okay, well,

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 2>you sound like your questioning if you should be ashamed

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 2>for being proud that you sit in the litter box.

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 3>That's that's actually perfect. That would be the exact way

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:10.240
<v Speaker 3>that I would explain this situation. I'm not ashamed. I'm

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like I said, I was born of necessity.

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.240
<v Speaker 3>But I feel like that's wrong and maybe I should

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<v Speaker 3>be ashamed.

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 7>Where.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well here, let's let's let's take us one other

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 2>time here. Why are you proud of shitting in the

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 2>litter box?

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 3>I guess it was. I'm an inventive person, and I

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 3>really did make lemonade out of lemons in like a

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 3>really shitty situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm hmm. Okay, go ahead, tell us you say

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 2>it's out of necessity. What was the situation?

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<v Speaker 3>I lived up in the mountains with a bunch of

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:54.760
<v Speaker 3>people and a bunch of broken down trailers in Winnebagos.

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<v Speaker 3>One of our friends had cooked for the night, and

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 3>they cooked chicken, but I guess they didn't cook it

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<v Speaker 3>all the way. And I've up until that point, I

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:12.360
<v Speaker 3>had never had food poisoning from eating raw chicken, but

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 3>I obviously it struck me that night I was sharing

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 3>a Winnebago at the time with my ex boyfriend who

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:23.840
<v Speaker 3>I had just broken up with, and his cat was

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<v Speaker 3>living with us. So it was the three of us

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 3>and w a beego that didn't move that had a

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:32.800
<v Speaker 3>bathroom in it, but the toilet and the shower were broken.

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 3>So it was like maybe two or three o'clock in

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<v Speaker 3>the morning when the motion started to hit me. And

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 3>so there was one working toilet on the property, but

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<v Speaker 3>it was like at least a quarter to a half

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 3>mile walk uphill to get to the working toilet, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just there was no time there. It wasn't going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen. So I and the litter box. Didn't I

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 3>say litter box lightly, There was no litter in it,

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 3>there was dirt in it.

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<v Speaker 6>So I grabbed the litter.

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 3>Box, put it on top of the toilet in the Winnebago,

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 3>and I had to ship in the litter box. I

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 3>also had to turn around and throw up in the

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 3>same litter box. I mean, it wasn't graceful, but it

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 3>was better than using the broken one inside the Winnebago.

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they could have gone outside.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with the with the the sort of first

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 2>sentiment that that you echoed here, which is that you

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<v Speaker 2>are proud of yourself for your ingenuity, for your ability

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<v Speaker 2>to be a problem solver. And I agree with you, Sasha. Sasha,

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<v Speaker 2>when you had to take a ship, when you had

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<v Speaker 2>to throw up, you did not complain that the toilet

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:02.879
<v Speaker 2>wasn't working in the Winnebago. Is that what you said?

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:07.239
<v Speaker 2>The toilet wasn't working in the Winnebago. Yeah, the toy.

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 2>You did not complain the toilet wasn't working in the Winnebago.

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:18.439
<v Speaker 2>You did not freak out, You kept calm, You had

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:24.720
<v Speaker 2>a You searched not for further complaints, which you knew

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 2>would result in nothing, but rather you there was wasted

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 2>time in your solution oriented person. And my god, Sasha,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you should be proud of that. I think

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<v Speaker 2>you should be proud of that. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>there's any shame in the pride that you have for

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 2>your own problem solving initiatives. That's just my perspective, but.

0:37:57.040 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 3>That's mine too. But my fiance, I just I guess

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 3>you think that I shouldn't talk as much about it

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:04.400
<v Speaker 3>to people.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, Dude, I think I think that your fiance, for

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:21.840
<v Speaker 2>whatever reason, just doesn't appreciate this aspect of you. That's fair,

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:27.879
<v Speaker 2>But I think you should, you know, because it's a

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 2>it's a great quality to have it a person being

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:32.320
<v Speaker 2>solution oriented.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think it's that I'm a solution oriented.

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:38.879
<v Speaker 3>I think it's that I tell a lot of pop

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 3>stories openly to people that are like just They don't

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 3>even have to be like close family. I could be

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:46.799
<v Speaker 3>like coworkers or people that I'm chatting with, and I

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:51.799
<v Speaker 3>just happen to just not have shame about bodily functions.

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<v Speaker 2>They're a part of life society. Tech makes so many

0:38:56.920 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 2>things taboo that are simply facts. People have sex with

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 2>each other, take shits, they have diarrheas, hi they people,

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 2>they people murder each other. That's happens. You know, all

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.800
<v Speaker 2>these things taboo. I don't know why we do it, Tasha,

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 2>but props to you for doing your part to uh

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:23.720
<v Speaker 2>remove the stigma.

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I'm going to start

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:27.959
<v Speaker 3>looking at it that way.

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Anything else you want to say before we.

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 3>Go, No, you just keep doing the good work that

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 3>you do. I'll be coming back sometime.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Sasha, have a the rest of the night,

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 2>you too. Hello is this Kellen.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, it is hello Kellen.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:47.919
<v Speaker 4>Man?

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:53.279
<v Speaker 7>Not much, just watching your stream and waiting for my turn.

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Well wait, no longer, your your turn has a right

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 2>and here it is. It's right now. It's maybe never

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:09.240
<v Speaker 2>happen again. What would you like to do with this turn?

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<v Speaker 7>First of all, I want to say I'm a huge fan,

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 7>and also I have call anxiety, so you'll have to

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 7>excuse me a little bit.

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm a huge fan of you. You have call anxiety?

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 2>What is that? By the way? Okay, hold on. I've

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:27.360
<v Speaker 2>talked to another caller who said that they have call

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 2>anxiety and they told me something and I don't know

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 2>if it's the same with you, but they told me

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 2>something that I found really interesting, which is they said

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.399
<v Speaker 2>that they don't have like normal social anxiety, like they

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.840
<v Speaker 2>like if they're talking to someone like in person, it's fine,

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 2>but specifically on the phone they feel anxious. Is that

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 2>you or are you sort of a three sixty anxiety guy?

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 7>Uh so, that's actually kind of a funny thing. I

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 7>do feel the same way. I was diagnosed with generalized anxiety,

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:02.239
<v Speaker 7>but I don't feel as anxious talking to people like

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 7>face to face in person. It's usually when they can't

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 7>see my facial expressions or my body language that I

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 7>feel very anxious.

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Interesting I would I mean, I know you, I know

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 2>there's no logic to the brain, but I feel like

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 2>it would make sense that if people can't see your

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 2>face or body, it don't makes it better because I

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 2>can just do whatever I want here, you know, and

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 2>it's fine. But but any who, any who? Enough about

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:44.840
<v Speaker 2>enough about life? Kellen, Kellen, how would you like to

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 2>use your turn.

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 7>H So, my my brother watches you a lot. He

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:55.880
<v Speaker 7>watches your tiktoks and your streams and stuff, and I

0:41:55.920 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 7>guess I wanted to tell him something through this stream

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:01.919
<v Speaker 7>that I kind of feel like I'd never be able

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:03.960
<v Speaker 7>to tell him to his face because my brother is

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:06.920
<v Speaker 7>one of the only people I get physical anxiety with

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:11.239
<v Speaker 7>me and my most growing up.

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:14.240
<v Speaker 2>Why do you get physical anxiety from your brother?

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:21.400
<v Speaker 7>He's kind of like a parent to me almost. He

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:23.799
<v Speaker 7>kind of raised me when we were growing up, Like

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 7>I still had my parents, but they were divorced and

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 7>they were both my parents are something. So my brother

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:36.359
<v Speaker 7>was the one that was there for me, taking care

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 7>of me and stuff. So I guess I just get

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 7>a lot of anxiety because I don't want him to

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:42.960
<v Speaker 7>think badly of me, and I don't want to disappoint

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 7>him by just being who I am.

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 2>I guess mm hmmm hm, So go ahead. I I

0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 2>interrupted you by asking you a question. I want to

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:52.759
<v Speaker 2>let you talk.

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:57.799
<v Speaker 7>I guess I just really wanted to say that, like,

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 7>I'm really grateful for my brother, and even if we

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 7>argue and stuff, he is kind of like one of

0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 7>my best friends in the whole world. His name is Evan.

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:09.399
<v Speaker 7>He's a very good person, and he's taken very good

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:11.680
<v Speaker 7>care of me. We do get into arguments a lot,

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 7>because all siblings do. But I guess I just really

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 7>wanted to tell him, but I can't tell him face

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 7>to face, which is that I appreciate him a lot,

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:21.880
<v Speaker 7>and he is one of my best friends in the

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 7>whole world, and I really don't know what I do

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:25.320
<v Speaker 7>without him.

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Interesting, So he listens to this podcast, So you're saying

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 2>this so that he'll listen to the podcast and he'll

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 2>hear you say it. Yes, So why do you feel

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:44.320
<v Speaker 2>like you can't tell him this to his face?

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<v Speaker 7>So, my brother's a very tough person, like he's he's

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:53.799
<v Speaker 7>one of those people where like if you cry in

0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 7>front of him or something like that, he'll he'll just

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 7>get up and leave because he's not very good with

0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:00.359
<v Speaker 7>dealing with emotions. And I understand that I don't want

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:03.720
<v Speaker 7>to like dump that on him, like I'm laughing.

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm laughing because I feel like a lot of

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:12.279
<v Speaker 2>this this podcast is like, you know, people talking about

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 2>all sorts of ship. So it's funny to me that

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:20.919
<v Speaker 2>he uh uh doesn't like people expressing themselves when that's

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:24.759
<v Speaker 2>sort of a lot of what goes on here.

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:28.840
<v Speaker 7>He mostly he mostly watches I will admit, for like

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 7>the funny the funny poop stories and stuff like that.

0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:37.000
<v Speaker 7>But I feel like maybe he should get interrupted by

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 7>his younger brother giving him some love.

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's very sweet of you. That's very sweet of you.

0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Hmm Okay. So, so you feel as though you have

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:51.000
<v Speaker 2>a hard time connecting with him because he's uh, he's

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 2>not very uh emotionally available.

0:44:56.320 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 7>Perhaps, Yeah, And I do understand because, like I said,

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 7>our parents growing up, both of our parents have always

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.799
<v Speaker 7>been a little emotionally unavailable. So I can definitely see

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:13.239
<v Speaker 7>where he gets it from. And I do notice a

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:17.280
<v Speaker 7>lot that he's more emotionally available towards me than other people.

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:19.959
<v Speaker 7>But I guess my thing is, I mostly just don't

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:24.719
<v Speaker 7>want to overload him or give him the impression that

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:28.319
<v Speaker 7>I'm it's gonna sound rd like I want to give

0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 7>my brother the impression that I'm a strong person like

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 7>he is and that I can do the things he

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 7>can do. And I guess just I don't want to

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:40.360
<v Speaker 7>overload him with me being an emotional person.

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Hmm, this is interesting. You sound like you have a lie.

0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 2>I respect that. I respect that you. It's good. It's

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:58.839
<v Speaker 2>good to get into a practice of telling people how

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 2>you feel about them. I think that's nice. We've had

0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:09.759
<v Speaker 2>a lot of discussion about, you know, how short life is,

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:12.360
<v Speaker 2>and there's been a lot of mortality talk this evening

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:19.359
<v Speaker 2>and whatnot, and I feel like part of that is

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:22.800
<v Speaker 2>to recognize that, you know whatever, we don't have a

0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:25.560
<v Speaker 2>lot of time left on this earth, and while we

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:29.320
<v Speaker 2>have people now, while we're here now, it's good to

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 2>let people know how you feel about them. So I

0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 2>don't think that there's a weakness to that. I think

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:44.160
<v Speaker 2>there's maybe even an inherent strength to that, because you're right,

0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:49.120
<v Speaker 2>it feels a little corny telling your friends you love them,

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:52.680
<v Speaker 2>telling uh, your brother you love them. You know they'll

0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 2>be like, what are you on drugs or something? You know,

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 2>are you on a fucking ecstasy and that's why you're

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 2>acting so weird? You're like, no, brother, I in sober mind,

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:08.080
<v Speaker 2>I would like to tell you that I appreciate you

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 2>and I love you, and I mean even me acting

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:14.600
<v Speaker 2>you out right now saying that I feel a little weird.

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:20.440
<v Speaker 2>But whatever, we push through that because it has to

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:23.879
<v Speaker 2>be said, even if it's a little uncomfortable.

0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:29.439
<v Speaker 7>Uh yeah, I really appreciate it, I guess. I guess.

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 7>My other thing was that I also kind of guess

0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:36.280
<v Speaker 7>I with all the existential talk, I kind of also

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:39.799
<v Speaker 7>wanted to tell him something else. I would never feel

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 7>comfortable telling him face to face because we're both going

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 7>through a struggle, which is I used to be in

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:48.799
<v Speaker 7>a very dark place where like I kind of not

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:52.480
<v Speaker 7>necessarily I wasn't like I didn't want to offer myself,

0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:57.400
<v Speaker 7>like I just didn't want to exist. And my brother

0:47:57.520 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 7>was the one that kind of showed me like, hey,

0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:01.960
<v Speaker 7>life is you know, a lot more worth living than

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 7>just oh life is crap, and I don't want to

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:06.239
<v Speaker 7>live it anymore. Like he's the one that showed me

0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 7>everything gets better and you're going to get better friends

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:10.919
<v Speaker 7>in the future, and you're going to have a better life.

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:14.000
<v Speaker 7>It just takes time. And I guess right now I'm

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:15.880
<v Speaker 7>seeing him kind of go through the thing that I

0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:18.520
<v Speaker 7>was going through, and I don't know how to be

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:20.759
<v Speaker 7>there for him like he was for me, because since

0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:24.399
<v Speaker 7>I'm such an emotional person and he's not very much

0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 7>an emotional person, he has the ability to just be like,

0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 7>not necessarily. He never told me to suck it up.

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:32.319
<v Speaker 7>He just told me, like, it gets better, and like,

0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:34.400
<v Speaker 7>you will be emotional, but it gets better. And I

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 7>just don't have the ability to say that because I'm

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:39.120
<v Speaker 7>a very like I'm the kind of person where I'm like,

0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:41.399
<v Speaker 7>it's okay to cry and be emotional, get it out,

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:44.040
<v Speaker 7>do it. You gotta do it. And he's very like,

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 7>if you have emotions, just not necessarily keep it in,

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 7>but don't force it outwards.

0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:54.160
<v Speaker 2>How old is your brother? Can I ask?

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 7>He's twenty five. He's sixty years older than me.

0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm about hmmmmmmmm mmmm. Okay, So your brother supported

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:09.439
<v Speaker 2>you through all this ship and now your brother's gone

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:11.279
<v Speaker 2>through some ship and you're like, A, how do I

0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:13.279
<v Speaker 2>you know? You're you're You're like, I don't know if

0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 2>I have the tools to reciprocate, but your intentions are there.

0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Your intentions are there.

0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:23.359
<v Speaker 6>M hmm.

0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I have a I have a couple thoughts that I'm

0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:31.120
<v Speaker 2>like thinking about right now. Part of me wants to say, like,

0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:35.759
<v Speaker 2>all right, well, you your brother showed you, uh what

0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:37.799
<v Speaker 2>he You know, your brother sort of gave you his

0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:44.239
<v Speaker 2>perspectives that's a little bit more stoic than yours. And

0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:47.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, maybe maybe this is an opportunity to show

0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:51.799
<v Speaker 2>your brother a little bit more of your perspective and

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:56.719
<v Speaker 2>see if he's open to that. But I don't know.

0:49:56.760 --> 0:49:58.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how help in mind that he is

0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 2>to to your line of thinking. But I would say this,

0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 2>even if you don't feel like you can reciprocate directly

0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:15.800
<v Speaker 2>what your brother has done for you to your brother,

0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, like say that you're too intimidated or or

0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:24.360
<v Speaker 2>you are gonna say some stuff to him and you

0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:27.839
<v Speaker 2>don't feel like it'll get through to him, right Maybe

0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:30.520
<v Speaker 2>if you feel like like reciprocating what he gave to

0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:34.200
<v Speaker 2>you back to him is a lost cause I don't

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:36.000
<v Speaker 2>know if it is. But if that's how you're feeling,

0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:42.560
<v Speaker 2>you're in luck because what your brother gave you, you

0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:47.600
<v Speaker 2>don't necessarily have to reciprocate it back to him, right

0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:54.440
<v Speaker 2>you can. You can. You can give that energy back

0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 2>to anyone, and that can be a form of reciprocation. Right,

0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 2>You can pay that forward to anyone in your life,

0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:08.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, fucking strangers on the internet, your friends, whoever

0:51:08.960 --> 0:51:14.120
<v Speaker 2>it is. So you could think of it like that, like,

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:18.160
<v Speaker 2>all right, my brother helped me out when I was

0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:21.279
<v Speaker 2>going through some shit, and if he's not going to

0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:23.799
<v Speaker 2>be open to me helping him out, whatever, I'll find

0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:28.000
<v Speaker 2>a way to pay it forward to someone. And get this,

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 2>you can do it in your own way, right. So,

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:35.279
<v Speaker 2>if that's your philosophy and your truth is you're the

0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:37.839
<v Speaker 2>kind of guy that has you know, you have your

0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:42.400
<v Speaker 2>own philosophy that you believe in that it's okay to cry,

0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:50.880
<v Speaker 2>it's okay to feel, whatever your your mantra. Thing that

0:51:50.920 --> 0:51:56.440
<v Speaker 2>you have to say is you can find someone, whoever

0:51:56.480 --> 0:52:01.680
<v Speaker 2>it is and pay it forward like that, right doesn't

0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:03.880
<v Speaker 2>necessarily and that and that and that can sort of

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:08.920
<v Speaker 2>be your way of reciprocation. Even if your brother is

0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 2>not into it. Does that make sense?

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it does.

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:19.680
<v Speaker 7>That's actually that is really good advice because I guess

0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:22.360
<v Speaker 7>I feel like I also have a responsibility that, you know,

0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:24.239
<v Speaker 7>my brother did that for me, and I kind of

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:26.919
<v Speaker 7>feel like someone did that for me, you know, even

0:52:26.960 --> 0:52:29.279
<v Speaker 7>if it wasn't my brother, that someone did that for me,

0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 7>and I should be able to do that for somebody else.

0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:34.600
<v Speaker 7>And I guess knowing that being there for my brother

0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:36.960
<v Speaker 7>in general and that I don't necessarily have to pay

0:52:36.960 --> 0:52:40.319
<v Speaker 7>it forward to him specifically, is a lot of weight

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:41.320
<v Speaker 7>off my shoulders.

0:52:41.840 --> 0:52:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Good good, Yeah, yeah, because I think, uh, because like

0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:50.880
<v Speaker 2>you can't like the way you gotta you gotta, you

0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:53.680
<v Speaker 2>gotta start of recognize this. This is sort of you know,

0:52:53.880 --> 0:52:58.640
<v Speaker 2>my final thought on it is like, how your brother

0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:03.080
<v Speaker 2>reacts to you, or how open your brother is to

0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:05.600
<v Speaker 2>the things that you have to tell him is not

0:53:05.760 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 2>within your control. It's not within your control at all.

0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:12.040
<v Speaker 2>How your brother reacts or how your brother is not

0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:16.680
<v Speaker 2>in your control. Your efforts and your intentions are in

0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:19.040
<v Speaker 2>your control, and you have good intentions. It sounds like,

0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:24.359
<v Speaker 2>uh so I would take that shit that isn't when

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:27.200
<v Speaker 2>you're within your control and do what you can in

0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:32.480
<v Speaker 2>in that arena, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I think that reciprocating that to other people is totally

0:53:39.480 --> 0:53:42.239
<v Speaker 2>in your control to just focus on that and not

0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:46.120
<v Speaker 2>like focusing on getting your brother to come around, you

0:53:46.160 --> 0:53:46.720
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying.

0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:55.040
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Well, Kellen, that very very good advice.

0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:58.719
<v Speaker 2>I hope. So I'm doing the best I can as

0:53:58.760 --> 0:54:01.800
<v Speaker 2>a gecko on the computer. I don't know anything about life.

0:54:03.239 --> 0:54:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm fourteen years old, and I actually before I started streaming,

0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:15.080
<v Speaker 2>I went to the bathroom and I when I took

0:54:15.239 --> 0:54:18.200
<v Speaker 2>my h I had a little pee on the tip

0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:20.959
<v Speaker 2>of my penis, and so I like shook it and

0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:24.720
<v Speaker 2>it got a bunch of pea all over my geck pants.

0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:28.360
<v Speaker 2>And then I, oh no, and so I had it

0:54:28.440 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 2>was pretty like danse So I went.

0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:34.000
<v Speaker 7>Oh, some dance on the pants.

0:54:34.120 --> 0:54:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh God.

0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:37.440
<v Speaker 2>And now and now I'm here talking to you with

0:54:37.520 --> 0:54:40.000
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a little bit of pea on

0:54:40.040 --> 0:54:40.919
<v Speaker 2>my pants.

0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:45.040
<v Speaker 7>You know what, though, That's how life is. Sometimes Sometimes

0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:46.399
<v Speaker 7>you just got to talk to people with a little

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:47.759
<v Speaker 7>bit of pea on your pants.

0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:53.279
<v Speaker 2>Beautiful, Talk to you soon, Kellen, talk to you later.

0:54:53.680 --> 0:54:54.320
<v Speaker 7>Bye bye.

0:54:56.040 --> 0:54:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Someone said I need to wash the suit I'm not

0:54:57.880 --> 0:55:12.000
<v Speaker 2>washing the suit. It's too much work and I am lazy. Hello, Hey,

0:55:12.040 --> 0:55:14.000
<v Speaker 2>what's up is this?

0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:14.319
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Conrad?

0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:18.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah him?

0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Uh, Normally it doesn't give me the first and last name,

0:55:23.680 --> 0:55:25.359
<v Speaker 2>but you have. You have told the call screen are

0:55:25.360 --> 0:55:26.600
<v Speaker 2>both your first and last name?

0:55:28.440 --> 0:55:32.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Well, the counter name is pretty powerful and where

0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:34.799
<v Speaker 5>I'm from, so that's kind of why I give it.

0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:38.600
<v Speaker 2>You said your name is very powerful where you come from.

0:55:40.600 --> 0:55:44.799
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. So, Uh, my dad and my uncle own a

0:55:44.840 --> 0:55:48.200
<v Speaker 5>dairy farm and we were actually featured on SNL.

0:55:50.000 --> 0:55:52.000
<v Speaker 2>You were featured on SNL.

0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:57.880
<v Speaker 5>Yes, it is a very short skit. The uh, the

0:55:57.960 --> 0:56:02.399
<v Speaker 5>guy who does the uh daily news kind of gave

0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:05.240
<v Speaker 5>like a very short just kind of like one liner

0:56:05.320 --> 0:56:06.560
<v Speaker 5>about our farm.

0:56:08.120 --> 0:56:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh you were on the weekend update.

0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:12.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, pretty much.

0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:15.160
<v Speaker 2>What do you remember what kind of mine was?

0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:22.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? So they they pretty much said, uh, a farm

0:56:22.280 --> 0:56:27.120
<v Speaker 5>in northeast Ohio has recently installed waterbeds for the cows.

0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:31.480
<v Speaker 5>And then they also said this just in Uh, their

0:56:31.600 --> 0:56:34.959
<v Speaker 5>farm has also introduced three ways for their cows something

0:56:35.000 --> 0:56:35.440
<v Speaker 5>like that.

0:56:38.520 --> 0:56:44.080
<v Speaker 2>How did you introducing waterbeds for your cows get to

0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:46.719
<v Speaker 2>the point where it became news?

0:56:48.400 --> 0:56:48.840
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:51.440
<v Speaker 5>So I want to say, either a CNN or Fox

0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:54.560
<v Speaker 5>came by and just kind of did a thing about it,

0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:58.799
<v Speaker 5>and my my dad and my uncle were just just

0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:01.280
<v Speaker 5>happened to be there. You know, they owned the farm,

0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:05.160
<v Speaker 5>so they, uh they kind of did a bit about it,

0:57:05.200 --> 0:57:08.279
<v Speaker 5>and uh, you know, Fox and CNN they just kind

0:57:08.280 --> 0:57:11.560
<v Speaker 5>of ate that ship up and I guess s and

0:57:11.600 --> 0:57:14.719
<v Speaker 5>now got a huge thing about it and made a

0:57:14.800 --> 0:57:17.040
<v Speaker 5>tiny skit about it. So I think it's pretty funny,

0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:19.480
<v Speaker 5>you know. I every time I bring up to somebody,

0:57:19.520 --> 0:57:20.920
<v Speaker 5>they think it's pretty funny.

0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:26.840
<v Speaker 2>And did this bring any sort of notoriety to your

0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:30.320
<v Speaker 2>family and their farm?

0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:30.800
<v Speaker 6>Not really?

0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:33.840
<v Speaker 5>I mean, uh, just anytime I bring it up to somebody,

0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:36.640
<v Speaker 5>they just I just uh tell them that we were featured.

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<v Speaker 5>And I said, now it's just one of those kind

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<v Speaker 5>of small things that it's just kind of funny and

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<v Speaker 5>people usually laugh about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So, m did it did this little this this little

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<v Speaker 2>taste right of being in front of the camera, getting

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<v Speaker 2>a little attention on yourself? Did it not feel good?

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<v Speaker 2>Did it spark anything within you too to uh seek

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<v Speaker 2>after more news coverage or more notoriety for yourself for

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<v Speaker 2>your farm?

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<v Speaker 5>So I kind of take this from my dad and

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<v Speaker 5>my uncle, and you know, they're very kind of self

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<v Speaker 5>raised kind of people. They I didn't really like seek

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<v Speaker 5>any fame for you know, I was kind of young

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<v Speaker 5>when it came out, and uh, my dad and my

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<v Speaker 5>uncle just kind of they just made short fame of it.

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<v Speaker 5>And then since then, I, I don't know, it's just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of cools, just one of those things just just

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<v Speaker 5>to say to Yeah, we were future on it. And

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<v Speaker 5>now they didn't really say us by name. But I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know, I just just a conversation starter.

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<v Speaker 2>So your farm boy sort of.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I after I went to college, just kind

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<v Speaker 5>of went to uh, went off to her, went off

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<v Speaker 5>and did some engineering stuff and kind of broke away

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<v Speaker 5>from that.

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<v Speaker 2>And what are you doing now? You're in engineering school?

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<v Speaker 5>No, so I graduated. Now I'm working at engineering firm.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, it says here that you called in

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<v Speaker 2>because you wanted to talk about playing Monopoly.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so what are your takes on landing on the

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<v Speaker 5>ghost space? Do you take four hundred or do you

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<v Speaker 5>just take the two hundred?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's just one of those house rules.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I guess. I mean we were just playing some

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<v Speaker 5>Monopoly and we were having some drinks and we were

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of discussing. They're calling me a pussy for

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<v Speaker 5>asking for four hundred. I was like, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of how I've always played.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, here's the thing. I think when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to Monopoly, if you're going to be incorporating

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<v Speaker 2>any sort of house rules, you have to set them

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<v Speaker 2>before anything happens, because nothing's more annoying than creating rules

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<v Speaker 2>as you go, because what will start to happen is

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be creating rules that work primarily in your favor. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you have to set the if I land on

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<v Speaker 2>go and I collect four hundred dollars rule. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to set it immediately because if you set it only

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<v Speaker 2>when you land on go, people are gonna think something's

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<v Speaker 2>going on, which you know I would agree with. I

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<v Speaker 2>would I would think something is going on.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, And I think that that kind of happened.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I was starting to drink before the game started, and

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<v Speaker 5>then when I landed on go, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>so I get four hundred, and they're like, no, you're

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<v Speaker 5>a pussy, you get two hundred. I was like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess that wasn't a part of this conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that see, that's the thing is you this this

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<v Speaker 2>is this is a great example of the necessity for clear,

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<v Speaker 2>honest and open communication. You must set the ground rules

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<v Speaker 2>for the game at the very start lest you be

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<v Speaker 2>reasonably accused of manipulation.

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<v Speaker 5>Right right, which is very fair. So I definitely understand that.

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<v Speaker 5>But uh, this little butt hurt that I didn't get

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<v Speaker 5>my extra two hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what, you know what, It's okay to

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<v Speaker 2>be but hurt. It's okay to be butt hurt for

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. But your butt hurtness needs to drive

1:01:35.400 --> 1:01:40.200
<v Speaker 2>you further towards learning this lesson. So so really really

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<v Speaker 2>fuel your butt hurt and let it serve you so

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<v Speaker 2>that next time, to avoid your butt hurt when you

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<v Speaker 2>go to play monopoly, you will set your rules from

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I completely understand. And drinking beforehand. Yeah okay, yeah, absolutely, man,

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<v Speaker 5>take care. I hope you have a great night.

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<v Speaker 2>You as well. Never slept on a waterbed before, I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder what it's like. Seems a little dangerous because if

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<v Speaker 2>you're like flopping around on there a three some on

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<v Speaker 2>a waterbed feels like it would eventually lead to some

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<v Speaker 2>form of leakage feels like there is a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>potential for multiple fluids to be intermingling in a situation

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<v Speaker 2>like that, Like let's say there's a hole in the

1:02:42.400 --> 1:02:49.800
<v Speaker 2>waterbed through which UH liquids can enter but not leave.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have enough multi person sex, or even if

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<v Speaker 2>you have enough standard two person sex on a waterbed

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<v Speaker 2>like that, eventually, after for a few months, you'll be

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<v Speaker 2>sleeping on a come and piss bed, which who knows,

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<v Speaker 2>might be very comfortable. I gotta get a waterbed. Never

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<v Speaker 2>be Get goes on the line taking your phone calls

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<v Speaker 2>every night. Never be Get goes to it. His hide's

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<v Speaker 2>teaching you cloud in the lid of your life. Money's

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<v Speaker 2>not really an expert.