Speaker 1: I ran it by my family, my whole family and
Speaker 1: my sister and my wife, and they all agree because
Speaker 1: she's just wild. She's he just wilds out and does
Speaker 1: these things, so it wouldn't surprise me. And she thought, man,
Speaker 1: I kind of want to fuck my nephew today. I'm
Speaker 1: a mess, Alex.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hey, Alex, how you doing?
Speaker 1: I am doing well? How you doing?
Speaker 2: Gek It says here you think your aunt might have
Speaker 2: sexted you today?
Speaker 1: Well, so it kind of gave off the feeling of it.
Speaker 1: So I guess some background. She's kind of uh, she's
Speaker 1: cheated on my uncle before, so you know she's kind
Speaker 1: she's kind of out there. And the text do you
Speaker 1: want to read the text?
Speaker 2: Sure, let's hear the text, all right.
Speaker 1: So she texts me and she says, hey, Alex, I
Speaker 1: got fired from my job today and I told insert
Speaker 1: my uncle's name, I feel like me and you should bond.
Speaker 1: All jokes aside, I'm a mess.
Speaker 2: That's the text.
Speaker 1: That's the text. And it just led me to believe
Speaker 1: the only time you would insert I'm a mess and
Speaker 1: we should bond is if you're trying to cop a feel.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna throw this out here immediately. Okay,
Speaker 2: I think I I I think I think something's going
Speaker 2: on with you that you're interpreting that text sexually.
Speaker 1: Interesting. We'll see here, we're not very close, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I don't really speak to her, so we don't have
Speaker 1: some sort of relationship, right.
Speaker 2: But so here's my question, why would Okay, you and
Speaker 2: your aunt are not very close with each other, so
Speaker 2: it would make sense that she wants to hang out
Speaker 2: with you, bond with you, form a closer relationship with you, especially,
Speaker 2: you know, if if things aren't going well with her husband,
Speaker 2: only because she wants to have more time with her family.
Speaker 2: And I'm wondering why exactly you think there is a
Speaker 2: sexual connotation here.
Speaker 1: I think it just has more to do with the circumstances.
Speaker 1: I think if she sent this text, it just has
Speaker 1: to do with with I guess it's more of who
Speaker 1: she is. So the way I would take her, you
Speaker 1: know that the way her perception is, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. What do you think? What's your thoughts?
Speaker 2: Well, when you say you when you say that this
Speaker 2: interpretation that she is hitting on you comes from who
Speaker 2: she is? What is it about her that makes you
Speaker 2: think this is a sexual text.
Speaker 1: Because she's just wild. She's she just wilds out and
Speaker 1: does these things. She cheats, she's you know, she's kind
Speaker 1: of who she is. So it wouldn't surprise me if
Speaker 1: she thought, Man, I kind of want to fuck my
Speaker 1: nephew today. I'm a mess.
Speaker 2: So you think, I mean, granted, are you ran it
Speaker 2: by someone?
Speaker 1: I ran it by my family, my whole family, and
Speaker 1: my sister and my wife, and they all agree. My
Speaker 1: mom said she was drunk when she sent the So
Speaker 1: I think that adds more to the equation.
Speaker 2: Your mom and your wife, and who is the other person?
Speaker 1: My dad and my sister, Your mom, your wife.
Speaker 2: Your dad, and your sister, all of them unanimously think
Speaker 2: that you're all just trying to fuck you. Yes, really
Speaker 2: has she ever? Because I would say that. Look, cheating
Speaker 2: is one thing, but I feel like cheating and incest
Speaker 2: are not in the same category. I don't feel like
Speaker 2: somebody that would cheat is also somebody that would commit
Speaker 2: in sexual incestual sex acts. It's a tongue twister in
Speaker 2: had incestual sex acts.
Speaker 1: I think that was a that was a good one,
Speaker 1: thank you. But I think she has a thing with uh,
Speaker 1: just blurred lines. You know, she's not blood related. It's
Speaker 1: my mom's dad's wife. I mean my mom's brother's wife.
Speaker 1: Excuse me.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, this makes a little slightly more plausible.
Speaker 2: So it's your uncles. You and your uncle are blood related,
Speaker 2: and this is your uncle's wife. Correct. Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: that's not as bad as if it was your blood
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's yeah. I think if this
Speaker 1: is my blood related aunt, then I wouldn't have jumped
Speaker 1: straight to Oh, she's trying to cop a field. It's
Speaker 1: trying to diddle me.
Speaker 2: Okay, No, that's important.
Speaker 1: There's I guess there's a lot more into it, into
Speaker 1: the equation.
Speaker 2: Okay, what else fact is to the equation?
Speaker 1: Well, that's just it all that m hmm.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what's next here for you? Are you? Do
Speaker 2: you respond to this text?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: See that's that. This was what was next. I said, Hey,
Speaker 1: maybe I should speak to a get go to decide
Speaker 1: what I do next. I did not respond.
Speaker 2: You didn't respond? Okay, well I did not. What would
Speaker 2: be an ideal outcome for you? Do you do you
Speaker 2: want to spend more time with your aunt?
Speaker 1: No? Not at this point. Not at this point.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm. I feel like it would make sense for
Speaker 2: you to leave the text alone.
Speaker 1: Then does leave it be no need to kind of
Speaker 1: go further with it or tell my uncle? Is that
Speaker 1: a thing? Should I do that?
Speaker 2: You think it was?
Speaker 4: Like, here's my thought.
Speaker 2: If it was, please tell me your thoughts.
Speaker 1: If it was a different situations, say your best friend's
Speaker 1: girlfriend was coming on to you kind of like that, Hey,
Speaker 1: i'm a mess, we should bond. I feel like you
Speaker 1: would tell your best friend. But when it's your aunt,
Speaker 1: you know, do you tell your uncle? That's different. That's
Speaker 1: a different ballgame.
Speaker 2: What's your relationship like with your uncle?
Speaker 5: You're pretty close.
Speaker 2: Listen, here's the thing. And I don't know your aunt,
Speaker 2: but I'm just I'm not sold that this is a
Speaker 2: sexual text.
Speaker 1: So you think there's a chance she was just drunk mess?
Speaker 2: I think so. I mean, I'm a copy of bond
Speaker 2: though I take things at face value. If your aunt
Speaker 2: says that she wants to bond with you more, but
Speaker 2: then you threw in the thing about how she's not
Speaker 2: your blood aunts, and that made the whole situation a
Speaker 2: little bit more plausible. But I would say that if
Speaker 2: you don't want to get involved with the situation. You
Speaker 2: might just want to leave the text alone. What does
Speaker 2: your wife think you should do?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think she said leave the text alone. Hey, babe,
Speaker 1: what do you think I should do with the text? Nothing?
Speaker 1: She says nothing.
Speaker 2: Can I talk to her real quick just before we go?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can absolutely speak to her Mischian.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, what's your name?
Speaker 4: Mary?
Speaker 2: Mary? Mary? I feel I think it would be nice
Speaker 2: to get your perspective on this. I personally don't think
Speaker 2: that this text is giving off vibes that Alex's aunt
Speaker 2: wants to have sex with him. But you you sound
Speaker 2: like you you think otherwise.
Speaker 6: Well, from what I can tell, me and my whole
Speaker 6: are recently married. So she's been married since October. And
Speaker 6: the first time I met her was at the wedding,
Speaker 6: and none of my husband's family really liked her, and
Speaker 6: everyone was kind of like stand offish about why they
Speaker 6: didn't like her. Some then, you know, I kind of
Speaker 6: started to cry a little bit more. And apparently she
Speaker 6: has a history of kind of just cheating and not
Speaker 6: being there for the right reasons. And it's hard to
Speaker 6: explain her personality because she's kind of shy, but it
Speaker 6: almost is like like she's trying to get something from
Speaker 6: you while trying to act polite. So I could definitely
Speaker 6: see why. It's like, why everyone thinks it she does
Speaker 6: not have good intentions.
Speaker 5: With the same.
Speaker 2: Or have you advised Alex to leave it alone rather
Speaker 2: than pursue this any further.
Speaker 6: Well, of course he just wants to find out what
Speaker 6: it is so he can kill his buddies or whatever.
Speaker 6: Like I really don't care if he does.
Speaker 2: But you think, okay, So you think do you think okay?
Speaker 2: So you just brought up a very interesting element. Do
Speaker 2: you think that he almost secretly wants to interpret this
Speaker 2: text as his aunt wanting to have sex with him
Speaker 2: so that he can use it as a flex?
Speaker 6: See I thought that at first. However, he didn't reach
Speaker 6: out to his friends first. He immediately went to his
Speaker 6: mom and dad because they don't like the girl and
Speaker 6: that makes me think otherwise. And then once everyone else agreed,
Speaker 6: he sent it to his friends group Chad and was like, hey, like,
Speaker 6: what do y'all think about this? And everyone's like yeah,
Speaker 6: Like I feel like she is not asking.
Speaker 2: He's kind of using it as a flex a little
Speaker 2: bit to be like, Hey, my aunt wants to have
Speaker 2: sex with because guys like I Because look, I feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, guys gain a lot of confidence just from
Speaker 2: like not even from like sleeping with women, but just
Speaker 2: from like a knowing that they would want to. And
Speaker 2: is there something like that going on with him? But
Speaker 2: with his aunt?
Speaker 7: It's possible.
Speaker 6: It's definitely possible. I mean I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's out of question.
Speaker 6: But I mean I don't blame him. I mean, it's
Speaker 6: just guys to having fun. It's like harmless fun. Yes,
Speaker 6: if he kept bagging on with the aunt, then that'd
Speaker 6: be a concern. And like he's been keeping me updated
Speaker 6: with like all what his friends say, and like we've
Speaker 6: been laughing about it all day. So it's not I
Speaker 6: don't it's not bothering me.
Speaker 1: In any way.
Speaker 6: But I mean, yes, I do. I do think he
Speaker 6: is trying to impress it from in some sort.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much for sharing. Mary. Can I
Speaker 2: talk to Alex and we'll wrap it up?
Speaker 5: You can.
Speaker 1: Hello, gig Hey, Alex.
Speaker 2: How you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm well, man, I'm well.
Speaker 2: Listen Alex. Before we go, I want to I want
Speaker 2: to bring up this sort of theory that Mary and
Speaker 2: I are talking about here secretly, secretly. Do you consider
Speaker 2: it a flex that your aunt wants to have sex
Speaker 2: with you?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, Hey, thank you for calling, Alex, appreciate you sharing
Speaker 2: a story with us.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Greg, you have a great night.
Speaker 2: People take what they can get in this world. Anything,
Speaker 2: anything to make them feel like they're wanted, they're attractive,
Speaker 2: People will take it. That's the world we live in,
Speaker 2: That's how our brains work. So I felt no one
Speaker 2: for nothing.
Speaker 7: Hello, Hello, Hi?
Speaker 2: Is this I'm gonna fuck up pronouncing your name? But
Speaker 2: can I try? Can I try? And you can tell
Speaker 2: me if I did it right?
Speaker 6: Safe?
Speaker 2: Is it safe?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: I'm a genius. How do people because how do people
Speaker 2: normally pronounce it? Because I have people probably fuck it
Speaker 2: up a lot. What are the most common fuck ups
Speaker 2: of that name?
Speaker 4: Oh? My god, I get so many. I get Paige,
Speaker 4: I get face like like your face.
Speaker 2: How do people How do people get Paige from Safe?
Speaker 4: I really don't know. Oh, honestly, I guess because they
Speaker 4: sound similar. I never understood it, though, but I've been
Speaker 4: getting it my whole life.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, page, what's going on with you?
Speaker 4: Nothing much? And just watching your stream.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, it says here you told a person this.
Speaker 2: You called the phone number, a person asked you what
Speaker 2: you wanted to talk about, and you told them that
Speaker 2: you get nightmares every You've been having nightmares every single
Speaker 2: night for your entire life. Is this correct?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 4: Oh, it's horrible. It's been going on since my whole life,
Speaker 4: like literally since I was a child, since like I
Speaker 4: was four years old. And they're like really intense and
Speaker 4: like gruesome.
Speaker 2: They've been happening every single night without fits as you're
Speaker 2: twenty years old. They started when you were four years old?
Speaker 2: And has it been sixteen years? Every single night of
Speaker 2: these nightmares.
Speaker 4: Every single night.
Speaker 2: Every single night?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And is it the same nightmare or are we talking
Speaker 2: different nightmares?
Speaker 4: So some of them are the same, Like I've had
Speaker 4: some since I was a child, and they'll be like
Speaker 4: exactly the same from years ago. But sometimes they're just
Speaker 4: brand new ones. Sometimes they're similar situations, you know, So
Speaker 4: it's really weird.
Speaker 2: Tell me about the most reoccurring one that you've had
Speaker 2: throughout the past sixteen years.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I am in this like weird mall, and
Speaker 4: there's like like an alarm going off, like flashing lights,
Speaker 4: and people are like running to get out of the mall,
Speaker 4: and I am just like wandering around. I'm like seeing
Speaker 4: all the stores and stuff like that, and it's like
Speaker 4: a it's like a normal mall, but like you could
Speaker 4: tell that it's off. And so I'm walking around and
Speaker 4: I get to the well. There's some other stuff that happens,
Speaker 4: but basically I get to the roof and it turns
Speaker 4: out it was a zombie apocalypse and the zombies are
Speaker 4: coming through the door. I'm on the ledge of the
Speaker 4: roof and all my friends and family are down below,
Speaker 4: like on the floor, and they're telling me that the
Speaker 4: only way to stop the zombie apocalypse apocalypse is if
Speaker 4: I jump off, and then I ends up jumping and
Speaker 4: waking up right before I hit the ground.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, so you're dangling on off of or you're
Speaker 2: dangling or you like you're you're like standing by the
Speaker 2: edge of this roof.
Speaker 4: I'm standing by the edge.
Speaker 2: You're standing by the edge behind you as a horde
Speaker 2: of zombies below you, as all your friends and family
Speaker 2: telling you to jump off the building and kill yourself.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Interesting, So how does that feel like watching all your
Speaker 2: friends and family tell you to jump off a building
Speaker 2: and kill yourself.
Speaker 4: It's it used to be like really like like impactful
Speaker 4: to me. Like I used to like wake up and
Speaker 4: think about it like all day when I would get
Speaker 4: the nightmare. But now since it's like kind of happened
Speaker 4: so much, I'm just kind of, like I want to say,
Speaker 4: like numb to it.
Speaker 2: Oh, I have so many questions. Uh so, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I just forgot all of them. So how often does
Speaker 2: this particular nightmare take place?
Speaker 4: Probably maybe twice a month?
Speaker 2: Twice a month, Okay, And so you say you become
Speaker 2: numb to this? Does there become a point, like, you know,
Speaker 2: you know what lucid dreaming is, right where you know
Speaker 2: that you're in a dream. Yeah, every time, Now that
Speaker 2: you've had this dream so many times, has it become
Speaker 2: easy for you to recognize when you're in the dream,
Speaker 2: therefore giving you more control over it or you know,
Speaker 2: allowing you to freak out about it less.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So, as as I've gotten older, I actually like
Speaker 4: I have more lucid dreams now, So I like realize
Speaker 4: that I'm in a nightmare and I try to wake
Speaker 4: myself up like in the dream like I'll inch my arm.
Speaker 4: That's what I do in the dream, and it usually
Speaker 4: doesn't work to wake me up, but at least, like
Speaker 4: I know that, like I'm in a dream and I'm safe,
Speaker 4: and I just have to like if it's like a
Speaker 4: reoccurring dream, I just have to go through what's happening
Speaker 4: in the dream so that I can wake up.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it becomes like clockwork, You're like, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: back in the dream. All I gotta do is jump
Speaker 2: off of this building and kill myself and then I'm.
Speaker 4: Fine, yep, exactly.
Speaker 2: But then, okay, So if you're in the dream and
Speaker 2: you know it's a dream and you know you're safe
Speaker 2: and nothing back can happen to you, do you never
Speaker 2: like try to make some alternate choices like go back
Speaker 2: and start punching the zombies in the face, or like
Speaker 2: you know, run around, or like you know, try to
Speaker 2: start like maybe inching your way down the building or
Speaker 2: like using a find a ladder or something like. Do
Speaker 2: you never make like alternate choices now that you know
Speaker 2: that none of them will will that they all end
Speaker 2: with you waking up.
Speaker 4: So I I've tried, like in the dream, like to
Speaker 4: make like different choices, but it's always the same ending,
Speaker 4: like it always ends up. I guess with this one,
Speaker 4: it always ends up with me jumping off, like no
Speaker 4: matter what I do, like even if I try to,
Speaker 4: Like I don't know, there was one time where I
Speaker 4: tried talking to my family and friends from the room.
Speaker 4: They were like it was they were like hollow husks
Speaker 4: of themselves, like they had no personality, and they just
Speaker 4: kept on saying like the same things over and over,
Speaker 4: like the only way to save everyone is if you jump,
Speaker 4: like there's no way to get out of this, like
Speaker 4: just a lot of stuff like that. But they wouldn't
Speaker 4: say anything else like that, and like they I remember,
Speaker 4: they were like pale, like they were pale versions of
Speaker 4: themselves with like like just blank eyes.
Speaker 2: So this nightmare you say is twice a month, So
Speaker 2: how often is it a is it a fresh nightmare?
Speaker 2: Because this one it sounds like, Okay, I've been through
Speaker 2: the motions. All I gotta do is jump off the building,
Speaker 2: kill myself. I'm good. But how often are you having
Speaker 2: to deal with nightmares that are new to you?
Speaker 4: Pretty much every other night? I only just get this one.
Speaker 4: I don't know why I get this one. A lot,
Speaker 4: but like other like repetitive dreams that I have, Like
Speaker 4: I'll maybe get them once every couple of months, so
Speaker 4: like really every other night is kind of like a
Speaker 4: new dream.
Speaker 2: Interesting. I almost feel like, uh, and tell me if
Speaker 2: I have the wrong here, But is there is there
Speaker 2: anything exciting about that? You're like, oh, it's like you're
Speaker 2: opening up a new horror each night. But it's kind
Speaker 2: of yeah. I mean, you know, they're the exploration of
Speaker 2: horror is a medium of entertainment, is a very real thing.
Speaker 2: Do you ever look at it like that? Or am
Speaker 2: I completely off?
Speaker 4: No? I you're totally right, because like I also do
Speaker 4: like free writing in my free time, so like I
Speaker 4: will write, like I think it's like kind of interesting
Speaker 4: because it's like, oh, I'm getting new inspiration every night.
Speaker 4: That's how I kind of have put a spin on it.
Speaker 2: Now, totally totally.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you will take these dreams and you'll transmute them into.
Speaker 4: Your writing, Yeah, exactly, Like I'll try to write like
Speaker 4: even just like a short story about them. Yeah, just
Speaker 4: like whatever happens in it, just try to get it
Speaker 4: down because it's kind of like journaling and it's kind
Speaker 4: of like like I like writing, so it's like a
Speaker 4: little therapeutic read.
Speaker 2: Oh go ahead, No, it's okay. I was gonna say
Speaker 2: I would totally read a book called The Safe Nightmare Journal. Yeah,
Speaker 2: have you ever thought about that? You ever thought about
Speaker 2: publishing a nightmare journal?
Speaker 4: Actually? Yeah, I kind of have been thinking about, like,
Speaker 4: like you know, writing like a full on book about it,
Speaker 4: because I don't really know anyone else who kind of
Speaker 4: gets this, and I do think that it's like kind
Speaker 4: of interesting. I mean, I'm sure there's like people like
Speaker 4: other people, but like personally, I don't know anyone else
Speaker 4: who gets this, and everyone that I tell it to,
Speaker 4: they're like, you know, like that's really interesting. Obviously it's
Speaker 4: but like like it's really interesting because there's no like
Speaker 4: real reason why I get it.
Speaker 2: What was your dream last night?
Speaker 4: Okay, So it's it was a little much, but I
Speaker 4: can't remember how it started. All I remember was like
Speaker 4: the disturbing part that I was on a beach and
Speaker 4: I looked down at my foot and my foot like
Speaker 4: really hurt and it was like really like it felt
Speaker 4: really raw. So then I take off my flip flop
Speaker 4: and then it looked like a like a rotting fish. Corpse,
Speaker 4: like just ripped open with like bones sticking out of it,
Speaker 4: and like like just like what like a raw cut
Speaker 4: open fish would look.
Speaker 2: Like your foot looks like that? Yeah, And how did
Speaker 2: you react to that? Are you not at a point
Speaker 2: I mean, after sixteen years, are you not at a
Speaker 2: point where you see you're rotting fish foot and you're like, ah,
Speaker 2: this is nothing to me? What else you got? Brain?
Speaker 2: Come on, it's been sixteen years of this. You can't
Speaker 2: scare me with anything? Or is it still each night,
Speaker 2: you know, a fresh hit to you?
Speaker 4: It still like it still feels like scary, and I
Speaker 4: still get like nervous and like I have a lot
Speaker 4: of anxiety about it, even though that I know that,
Speaker 4: like I know none of it's real and I know
Speaker 4: that it's just my brain doing this to myself, But
Speaker 4: like I still get that like kind of fear, you know,
Speaker 4: like almost like that primal fear, because like I'm like
Speaker 4: when you're asleep, you're like you're most vulnerable, and so
Speaker 4: it's like if that's happening in my head, like what's
Speaker 4: happening outside you know?
Speaker 5: M And.
Speaker 2: That that primal fear, you know, like we were talking
Speaker 2: about earlier, everyone there's a lot of people out there
Speaker 2: who chase that with like horror movies and haunted houses
Speaker 2: and whatnot. And and how successful have you been in
Speaker 2: sort of reframing your attitude toward finding a thrill from
Speaker 2: these dreams.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not someone I like get very scared of
Speaker 4: like horror movies and like scary things for you, like
Speaker 4: I just always have. Yeah, it's just not for me. Like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I just don't like it.
Speaker 2: So the final thing I kind of want to explore
Speaker 2: with this is have you what have your efforts looked, like,
Speaker 2: if any, to cure yourself of this. Have you ever
Speaker 2: gone to a like dream therapist or some sort of
Speaker 2: mind doctor or something to find out why this is
Speaker 2: happening to you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been to Like I've been to a couple therapists.
Speaker 4: I'm on like some medications for it, but really like
Speaker 4: they no one knows what to do about it. They
Speaker 4: don't know like how to help. I try, Like I
Speaker 4: try taking melotonin, I try, you know, doing a bunch
Speaker 4: of stuff to try to like get myself to stay asleep,
Speaker 4: and like maybe like if I put myself in a
Speaker 4: deeper sleep, maybe like I won't experience the nightmare, but
Speaker 4: nothing has helped. So I'm kind of thinking about maybe
Speaker 4: doing a sleep study and and like trying to find
Speaker 4: someone else who can, like maybe like a sleep specialist.
Speaker 4: I don't know if they have those there.
Speaker 2: No, I'm sure they do. Somebody who can like hook
Speaker 2: you up to some some wires or sprain scanners or
Speaker 2: something and like look at the neuro patterns while you're
Speaker 2: while you're asleep.
Speaker 4: Exactly like just like see like, oh, maybe my body
Speaker 4: is like reacting to it. I don't know how I'm sleeping, Like,
Speaker 4: I'm sure I know it is, because like I wake
Speaker 4: up in like a pool of sweat, so like I
Speaker 4: know that my body is like experiencing the fear like physically.
Speaker 4: So I'm sure that like if I did a sleep study,
Speaker 4: they'd be able to like see like when my brain
Speaker 4: peaks or whatever.
Speaker 2: Do you think that there are anything? Do you do
Speaker 2: you believe that dreams tell us things about our subconscious
Speaker 2: just like like this recurring dream of you having to
Speaker 2: jump off a building because your family is yelling at
Speaker 2: you and there's a zombie apocalypse and this rotting foot thing,
Speaker 2: Like do you think that these are completely random firings
Speaker 2: of neurons or are they trying to tell you something
Speaker 2: about what you subconsciously think and feel.
Speaker 4: I think some of them are like deep and like
Speaker 4: I think some of them kind of are like a
Speaker 4: window into my subconscious But I think like some of
Speaker 4: them like looking down at my foot and seeing like
Speaker 4: a dead fish corpse, Like I can't really get any
Speaker 4: sort of like anything from that. I don't think there's
Speaker 4: anything really from that.
Speaker 2: I would be trying to tell you either.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess like some of like the more like
Speaker 4: intricate and intense ones probably have like something to do
Speaker 4: with like my personality and my brain and what's going
Speaker 4: on in my head. And but I'm I'm sure a
Speaker 4: lot of them are probably just like what, what's a
Speaker 4: new thing that we could throw at her tonight? You know?
Speaker 2: And I mean it sounds like you're getting better and
Speaker 2: better at dealing with this, I mean every single night.
Speaker 2: I mean that sounds sounds pretty exhausting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've definitely gotten a lot better with it. Like
Speaker 4: I know kind of well, I know like how to
Speaker 4: like act in like a lucid dream. I kind of know,
Speaker 4: like like if I sleep within like a certain setting,
Speaker 4: you know, like in a cool room or something like that.
Speaker 4: Then like, I kind of not that it's like better,
Speaker 4: but it kind of is less intense than some other ones.
Speaker 4: Like so I kind of I know some coping skills
Speaker 4: to deal with it, but of course they're only like temporary,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: Well, Safe, thank you for sharing this, Thank you for
Speaker 2: sharing this with us. This was super super interesting. Is
Speaker 2: there anything else that you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people before we before we go?
Speaker 4: I think, everyone go buy little plush gnomes I have.
Speaker 4: We have so many in my house and they're adorable
Speaker 4: and they make me very happy. So everyone should go
Speaker 4: buy plush gnomes.
Speaker 2: I like. I like that. It's a very specific thing
Speaker 2: that I because everyone you know, a lot of people
Speaker 2: when I ask them or do you have anything else
Speaker 2: to say, they go, everyone have a good day. It's like, well,
Speaker 2: that's not something I can't do. That that's not something
Speaker 2: I can It's not really actionable, but I thank you
Speaker 2: for providing an actionable thing for the people listening. And
Speaker 2: please write the Safe Dream Journal. That is a cool
Speaker 2: name for a book and I would absolutely read it.
Speaker 4: I'll dedicate it to you.
Speaker 2: Gek beautiful, Thank you, saf have a good night, or
Speaker 2: you know, try to. I will bye the Safe Dream Journal.
Speaker 2: One of these days, I'm going to be browsing Amazon
Speaker 2: and I'm going to see that pop up, and uh,
Speaker 2: hopefully there'll be a little you know, how they know
Speaker 2: how they have? They call at one singular page of
Speaker 2: a dedication dedicated to the gecko guy on the computer.
Speaker 2: I forgot what his name was, but I would definitely
Speaker 2: read that book. Sasha, Hi, how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm pretty good?
Speaker 2: How about you? I'm a gecko on the computer.
Speaker 6: Sounds about right.
Speaker 2: Uh, what's going on?
Speaker 3: Not much chilling hanging out playing computer games? Watching your stream, Sasha.
Speaker 2: It says here you want to know if you should
Speaker 2: be ashamed that you had to ship in a litter
Speaker 2: box once.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't know that I think about it.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's so much that I should
Speaker 3: feel shame about it. I think my fiance's problem is
Speaker 3: more that I'm seeing proud of it.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a whole different call than I thought
Speaker 2: it was. You were asking if you should be ashamed,
Speaker 2: But I feel like the question is not should you
Speaker 2: be ashamed? It's you're not ashamed of shitting in the
Speaker 2: litter box. You sound like your battle. Well, okay, well,
Speaker 2: you sound like your questioning if you should be ashamed
Speaker 2: for being proud that you sit in the litter box.
Speaker 3: That's that's actually perfect. That would be the exact way
Speaker 3: that I would explain this situation. I'm not ashamed. I'm
Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, I was born of necessity.
Speaker 3: But I feel like that's wrong and maybe I should
Speaker 3: be ashamed.
Speaker 7: Where.
Speaker 2: Okay, well here, let's let's let's take us one other
Speaker 2: time here. Why are you proud of shitting in the
Speaker 2: litter box?
Speaker 3: I guess it was. I'm an inventive person, and I
Speaker 3: really did make lemonade out of lemons in like a
Speaker 3: really shitty situation.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm hmm. Okay, go ahead, tell us you say
Speaker 2: it's out of necessity. What was the situation?
Speaker 3: I lived up in the mountains with a bunch of
Speaker 3: people and a bunch of broken down trailers in Winnebagos.
Speaker 3: One of our friends had cooked for the night, and
Speaker 3: they cooked chicken, but I guess they didn't cook it
Speaker 3: all the way. And I've up until that point, I
Speaker 3: had never had food poisoning from eating raw chicken, but
Speaker 3: I obviously it struck me that night I was sharing
Speaker 3: a Winnebago at the time with my ex boyfriend who
Speaker 3: I had just broken up with, and his cat was
Speaker 3: living with us. So it was the three of us
Speaker 3: and w a beego that didn't move that had a
Speaker 3: bathroom in it, but the toilet and the shower were broken.
Speaker 3: So it was like maybe two or three o'clock in
Speaker 3: the morning when the motion started to hit me. And
Speaker 3: so there was one working toilet on the property, but
Speaker 3: it was like at least a quarter to a half
Speaker 3: mile walk uphill to get to the working toilet, and
Speaker 3: I just there was no time there. It wasn't going
Speaker 3: to happen. So I and the litter box. Didn't I
Speaker 3: say litter box lightly, There was no litter in it,
Speaker 3: there was dirt in it.
Speaker 6: So I grabbed the litter.
Speaker 3: Box, put it on top of the toilet in the Winnebago,
Speaker 3: and I had to ship in the litter box. I
Speaker 3: also had to turn around and throw up in the
Speaker 3: same litter box. I mean, it wasn't graceful, but it
Speaker 3: was better than using the broken one inside the Winnebago.
Speaker 3: I mean, they could have gone outside.
Speaker 2: I agree with the with the the sort of first
Speaker 2: sentiment that that you echoed here, which is that you
Speaker 2: are proud of yourself for your ingenuity, for your ability
Speaker 2: to be a problem solver. And I agree with you, Sasha. Sasha,
Speaker 2: when you had to take a ship, when you had
Speaker 2: to throw up, you did not complain that the toilet
Speaker 2: wasn't working in the Winnebago. Is that what you said?
Speaker 2: The toilet wasn't working in the Winnebago. Yeah, the toy.
Speaker 2: You did not complain the toilet wasn't working in the Winnebago.
Speaker 2: You did not freak out, You kept calm, You had
Speaker 2: a You searched not for further complaints, which you knew
Speaker 2: would result in nothing, but rather you there was wasted
Speaker 2: time in your solution oriented person. And my god, Sasha,
Speaker 2: I think you should be proud of that. I think
Speaker 2: you should be proud of that. I don't think that
Speaker 2: there's any shame in the pride that you have for
Speaker 2: your own problem solving initiatives. That's just my perspective, but.
Speaker 3: That's mine too. But my fiance, I just I guess
Speaker 3: you think that I shouldn't talk as much about it
Speaker 3: to people.
Speaker 2: Listen, Dude, I think I think that your fiance, for
Speaker 2: whatever reason, just doesn't appreciate this aspect of you. That's fair,
Speaker 2: But I think you should, you know, because it's a
Speaker 2: it's a great quality to have it a person being
Speaker 2: solution oriented.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's that I'm a solution oriented.
Speaker 3: I think it's that I tell a lot of pop
Speaker 3: stories openly to people that are like just They don't
Speaker 3: even have to be like close family. I could be
Speaker 3: like coworkers or people that I'm chatting with, and I
Speaker 3: just happen to just not have shame about bodily functions.
Speaker 2: They're a part of life society. Tech makes so many
Speaker 2: things taboo that are simply facts. People have sex with
Speaker 2: each other, take shits, they have diarrheas, hi they people,
Speaker 2: they people murder each other. That's happens. You know, all
Speaker 2: these things taboo. I don't know why we do it, Tasha,
Speaker 2: but props to you for doing your part to uh
Speaker 2: remove the stigma.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I'm going to start
Speaker 3: looking at it that way.
Speaker 2: Anything else you want to say before we.
Speaker 3: Go, No, you just keep doing the good work that
Speaker 3: you do. I'll be coming back sometime.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Sasha, have a the rest of the night,
Speaker 2: you too. Hello is this Kellen.
Speaker 7: Yes, it is hello Kellen.
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 7: Not much, just watching your stream and waiting for my turn.
Speaker 2: Well wait, no longer, your your turn has a right
Speaker 2: and here it is. It's right now. It's maybe never
Speaker 2: happen again. What would you like to do with this turn?
Speaker 7: First of all, I want to say I'm a huge fan,
Speaker 7: and also I have call anxiety, so you'll have to
Speaker 7: excuse me a little bit.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm a huge fan of you. You have call anxiety?
Speaker 2: What is that? By the way? Okay, hold on. I've
Speaker 2: talked to another caller who said that they have call
Speaker 2: anxiety and they told me something and I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's the same with you, but they told me
Speaker 2: something that I found really interesting, which is they said
Speaker 2: that they don't have like normal social anxiety, like they
Speaker 2: like if they're talking to someone like in person, it's fine,
Speaker 2: but specifically on the phone they feel anxious. Is that
Speaker 2: you or are you sort of a three sixty anxiety guy?
Speaker 7: Uh so, that's actually kind of a funny thing. I
Speaker 7: do feel the same way. I was diagnosed with generalized anxiety,
Speaker 7: but I don't feel as anxious talking to people like
Speaker 7: face to face in person. It's usually when they can't
Speaker 7: see my facial expressions or my body language that I
Speaker 7: feel very anxious.
Speaker 2: Interesting I would I mean, I know you, I know
Speaker 2: there's no logic to the brain, but I feel like
Speaker 2: it would make sense that if people can't see your
Speaker 2: face or body, it don't makes it better because I
Speaker 2: can just do whatever I want here, you know, and
Speaker 2: it's fine. But but any who, any who? Enough about
Speaker 2: enough about life? Kellen, Kellen, how would you like to
Speaker 2: use your turn.
Speaker 7: H So, my my brother watches you a lot. He
Speaker 7: watches your tiktoks and your streams and stuff, and I
Speaker 7: guess I wanted to tell him something through this stream
Speaker 7: that I kind of feel like I'd never be able
Speaker 7: to tell him to his face because my brother is
Speaker 7: one of the only people I get physical anxiety with
Speaker 7: me and my most growing up.
Speaker 2: Why do you get physical anxiety from your brother?
Speaker 7: He's kind of like a parent to me almost. He
Speaker 7: kind of raised me when we were growing up, Like
Speaker 7: I still had my parents, but they were divorced and
Speaker 7: they were both my parents are something. So my brother
Speaker 7: was the one that was there for me, taking care
Speaker 7: of me and stuff. So I guess I just get
Speaker 7: a lot of anxiety because I don't want him to
Speaker 7: think badly of me, and I don't want to disappoint
Speaker 7: him by just being who I am.
Speaker 2: I guess mm hmmm hm, So go ahead. I I
Speaker 2: interrupted you by asking you a question. I want to
Speaker 2: let you talk.
Speaker 7: I guess I just really wanted to say that, like,
Speaker 7: I'm really grateful for my brother, and even if we
Speaker 7: argue and stuff, he is kind of like one of
Speaker 7: my best friends in the whole world. His name is Evan.
Speaker 7: He's a very good person, and he's taken very good
Speaker 7: care of me. We do get into arguments a lot,
Speaker 7: because all siblings do. But I guess I just really
Speaker 7: wanted to tell him, but I can't tell him face
Speaker 7: to face, which is that I appreciate him a lot,
Speaker 7: and he is one of my best friends in the
Speaker 7: whole world, and I really don't know what I do
Speaker 7: without him.
Speaker 2: Interesting, So he listens to this podcast, So you're saying
Speaker 2: this so that he'll listen to the podcast and he'll
Speaker 2: hear you say it. Yes, So why do you feel
Speaker 2: like you can't tell him this to his face?
Speaker 7: So, my brother's a very tough person, like he's he's
Speaker 7: one of those people where like if you cry in
Speaker 7: front of him or something like that, he'll he'll just
Speaker 7: get up and leave because he's not very good with
Speaker 7: dealing with emotions. And I understand that I don't want
Speaker 7: to like dump that on him, like I'm laughing.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm laughing because I feel like a lot of
Speaker 2: this this podcast is like, you know, people talking about
Speaker 2: all sorts of ship. So it's funny to me that
Speaker 2: he uh uh doesn't like people expressing themselves when that's
Speaker 2: sort of a lot of what goes on here.
Speaker 7: He mostly he mostly watches I will admit, for like
Speaker 7: the funny the funny poop stories and stuff like that.
Speaker 7: But I feel like maybe he should get interrupted by
Speaker 7: his younger brother giving him some love.
Speaker 2: Well, that's very sweet of you. That's very sweet of you.
Speaker 2: Hmm Okay. So, so you feel as though you have
Speaker 2: a hard time connecting with him because he's uh, he's
Speaker 2: not very uh emotionally available.
Speaker 7: Perhaps, Yeah, And I do understand because, like I said,
Speaker 7: our parents growing up, both of our parents have always
Speaker 7: been a little emotionally unavailable. So I can definitely see
Speaker 7: where he gets it from. And I do notice a
Speaker 7: lot that he's more emotionally available towards me than other people.
Speaker 7: But I guess my thing is, I mostly just don't
Speaker 7: want to overload him or give him the impression that
Speaker 7: I'm it's gonna sound rd like I want to give
Speaker 7: my brother the impression that I'm a strong person like
Speaker 7: he is and that I can do the things he
Speaker 7: can do. And I guess just I don't want to
Speaker 7: overload him with me being an emotional person.
Speaker 2: Hmm, this is interesting. You sound like you have a lie.
Speaker 2: I respect that. I respect that you. It's good. It's
Speaker 2: good to get into a practice of telling people how
Speaker 2: you feel about them. I think that's nice. We've had
Speaker 2: a lot of discussion about, you know, how short life is,
Speaker 2: and there's been a lot of mortality talk this evening
Speaker 2: and whatnot, and I feel like part of that is
Speaker 2: to recognize that, you know whatever, we don't have a
Speaker 2: lot of time left on this earth, and while we
Speaker 2: have people now, while we're here now, it's good to
Speaker 2: let people know how you feel about them. So I
Speaker 2: don't think that there's a weakness to that. I think
Speaker 2: there's maybe even an inherent strength to that, because you're right,
Speaker 2: it feels a little corny telling your friends you love them,
Speaker 2: telling uh, your brother you love them. You know they'll
Speaker 2: be like, what are you on drugs or something? You know,
Speaker 2: are you on a fucking ecstasy and that's why you're
Speaker 2: acting so weird? You're like, no, brother, I in sober mind,
Speaker 2: I would like to tell you that I appreciate you
Speaker 2: and I love you, and I mean even me acting
Speaker 2: you out right now saying that I feel a little weird.
Speaker 2: But whatever, we push through that because it has to
Speaker 2: be said, even if it's a little uncomfortable.
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, I really appreciate it, I guess. I guess.
Speaker 7: My other thing was that I also kind of guess
Speaker 7: I with all the existential talk, I kind of also
Speaker 7: wanted to tell him something else. I would never feel
Speaker 7: comfortable telling him face to face because we're both going
Speaker 7: through a struggle, which is I used to be in
Speaker 7: a very dark place where like I kind of not
Speaker 7: necessarily I wasn't like I didn't want to offer myself,
Speaker 7: like I just didn't want to exist. And my brother
Speaker 7: was the one that kind of showed me like, hey,
Speaker 7: life is you know, a lot more worth living than
Speaker 7: just oh life is crap, and I don't want to
Speaker 7: live it anymore. Like he's the one that showed me
Speaker 7: everything gets better and you're going to get better friends
Speaker 7: in the future, and you're going to have a better life.
Speaker 7: It just takes time. And I guess right now I'm
Speaker 7: seeing him kind of go through the thing that I
Speaker 7: was going through, and I don't know how to be
Speaker 7: there for him like he was for me, because since
Speaker 7: I'm such an emotional person and he's not very much
Speaker 7: an emotional person, he has the ability to just be like,
Speaker 7: not necessarily. He never told me to suck it up.
Speaker 7: He just told me, like, it gets better, and like,
Speaker 7: you will be emotional, but it gets better. And I
Speaker 7: just don't have the ability to say that because I'm
Speaker 7: a very like I'm the kind of person where I'm like,
Speaker 7: it's okay to cry and be emotional, get it out,
Speaker 7: do it. You gotta do it. And he's very like,
Speaker 7: if you have emotions, just not necessarily keep it in,
Speaker 7: but don't force it outwards.
Speaker 2: How old is your brother? Can I ask?
Speaker 7: He's twenty five. He's sixty years older than me.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm about hmmmmmmmm mmmm. Okay, So your brother supported
Speaker 2: you through all this ship and now your brother's gone
Speaker 2: through some ship and you're like, A, how do I
Speaker 2: you know? You're you're You're like, I don't know if
Speaker 2: I have the tools to reciprocate, but your intentions are there.
Speaker 2: Your intentions are there.
Speaker 6: M hmm.
Speaker 2: I have a I have a couple thoughts that I'm
Speaker 2: like thinking about right now. Part of me wants to say, like,
Speaker 2: all right, well, you your brother showed you, uh what
Speaker 2: he You know, your brother sort of gave you his
Speaker 2: perspectives that's a little bit more stoic than yours. And
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, maybe maybe this is an opportunity to show
Speaker 2: your brother a little bit more of your perspective and
Speaker 2: see if he's open to that. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know how help in mind that he is
Speaker 2: to to your line of thinking. But I would say this,
Speaker 2: even if you don't feel like you can reciprocate directly
Speaker 2: what your brother has done for you to your brother,
Speaker 2: you know, like say that you're too intimidated or or
Speaker 2: you are gonna say some stuff to him and you
Speaker 2: don't feel like it'll get through to him, right Maybe
Speaker 2: if you feel like like reciprocating what he gave to
Speaker 2: you back to him is a lost cause I don't
Speaker 2: know if it is. But if that's how you're feeling,
Speaker 2: you're in luck because what your brother gave you, you
Speaker 2: don't necessarily have to reciprocate it back to him, right
Speaker 2: you can. You can. You can give that energy back
Speaker 2: to anyone, and that can be a form of reciprocation. Right,
Speaker 2: You can pay that forward to anyone in your life,
Speaker 2: you know, fucking strangers on the internet, your friends, whoever
Speaker 2: it is. So you could think of it like that, like,
Speaker 2: all right, my brother helped me out when I was
Speaker 2: going through some shit, and if he's not going to
Speaker 2: be open to me helping him out, whatever, I'll find
Speaker 2: a way to pay it forward to someone. And get this,
Speaker 2: you can do it in your own way, right. So,
Speaker 2: if that's your philosophy and your truth is you're the
Speaker 2: kind of guy that has you know, you have your
Speaker 2: own philosophy that you believe in that it's okay to cry,
Speaker 2: it's okay to feel, whatever your your mantra. Thing that
Speaker 2: you have to say is you can find someone, whoever
Speaker 2: it is and pay it forward like that, right doesn't
Speaker 2: necessarily and that and that and that can sort of
Speaker 2: be your way of reciprocation. Even if your brother is
Speaker 2: not into it. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does.
Speaker 7: That's actually that is really good advice because I guess
Speaker 7: I feel like I also have a responsibility that, you know,
Speaker 7: my brother did that for me, and I kind of
Speaker 7: feel like someone did that for me, you know, even
Speaker 7: if it wasn't my brother, that someone did that for me,
Speaker 7: and I should be able to do that for somebody else.
Speaker 7: And I guess knowing that being there for my brother
Speaker 7: in general and that I don't necessarily have to pay
Speaker 7: it forward to him specifically, is a lot of weight
Speaker 7: off my shoulders.
Speaker 2: Good good, Yeah, yeah, because I think, uh, because like
Speaker 2: you can't like the way you gotta you gotta, you
Speaker 2: gotta start of recognize this. This is sort of you know,
Speaker 2: my final thought on it is like, how your brother
Speaker 2: reacts to you, or how open your brother is to
Speaker 2: the things that you have to tell him is not
Speaker 2: within your control. It's not within your control at all.
Speaker 2: How your brother reacts or how your brother is not
Speaker 2: in your control. Your efforts and your intentions are in
Speaker 2: your control, and you have good intentions. It sounds like,
Speaker 2: uh so I would take that shit that isn't when
Speaker 2: you're within your control and do what you can in
Speaker 2: in that arena, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: I think that reciprocating that to other people is totally
Speaker 2: in your control to just focus on that and not
Speaker 2: like focusing on getting your brother to come around, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, Kellen, that very very good advice.
Speaker 2: I hope. So I'm doing the best I can as
Speaker 2: a gecko on the computer. I don't know anything about life.
Speaker 2: I'm fourteen years old, and I actually before I started streaming,
Speaker 2: I went to the bathroom and I when I took
Speaker 2: my h I had a little pee on the tip
Speaker 2: of my penis, and so I like shook it and
Speaker 2: it got a bunch of pea all over my geck pants.
Speaker 2: And then I, oh no, and so I had it
Speaker 2: was pretty like danse So I went.
Speaker 7: Oh, some dance on the pants.
Speaker 1: Oh God.
Speaker 2: And now and now I'm here talking to you with
Speaker 2: a little bit of a little bit of pea on
Speaker 2: my pants.
Speaker 7: You know what, though, That's how life is. Sometimes Sometimes
Speaker 7: you just got to talk to people with a little
Speaker 7: bit of pea on your pants.
Speaker 2: Beautiful, Talk to you soon, Kellen, talk to you later.
Speaker 7: Bye bye.
Speaker 2: Someone said I need to wash the suit I'm not
Speaker 2: washing the suit. It's too much work and I am lazy. Hello, Hey,
Speaker 2: what's up is this?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Conrad?
Speaker 5: Yeah him?
Speaker 2: Uh, Normally it doesn't give me the first and last name,
Speaker 2: but you have. You have told the call screen are
Speaker 2: both your first and last name?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, the counter name is pretty powerful and where
Speaker 5: I'm from, so that's kind of why I give it.
Speaker 2: You said your name is very powerful where you come from.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So, Uh, my dad and my uncle own a
Speaker 5: dairy farm and we were actually featured on SNL.
Speaker 2: You were featured on SNL.
Speaker 5: Yes, it is a very short skit. The uh, the
Speaker 5: guy who does the uh daily news kind of gave
Speaker 5: like a very short just kind of like one liner
Speaker 5: about our farm.
Speaker 2: Oh you were on the weekend update.
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2: What do you remember what kind of mine was?
Speaker 5: Yeah? So they they pretty much said, uh, a farm
Speaker 5: in northeast Ohio has recently installed waterbeds for the cows.
Speaker 5: And then they also said this just in Uh, their
Speaker 5: farm has also introduced three ways for their cows something
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 2: How did you introducing waterbeds for your cows get to
Speaker 2: the point where it became news?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 5: So I want to say, either a CNN or Fox
Speaker 5: came by and just kind of did a thing about it,
Speaker 5: and my my dad and my uncle were just just
Speaker 5: happened to be there. You know, they owned the farm,
Speaker 5: so they, uh they kind of did a bit about it,
Speaker 5: and uh, you know, Fox and CNN they just kind
Speaker 5: of ate that ship up and I guess s and
Speaker 5: now got a huge thing about it and made a
Speaker 5: tiny skit about it. So I think it's pretty funny,
Speaker 5: you know. I every time I bring up to somebody,
Speaker 5: they think it's pretty funny.
Speaker 2: And did this bring any sort of notoriety to your
Speaker 2: family and their farm?
Speaker 6: Not really?
Speaker 5: I mean, uh, just anytime I bring it up to somebody,
Speaker 5: they just I just uh tell them that we were featured.
Speaker 5: And I said, now it's just one of those kind
Speaker 5: of small things that it's just kind of funny and
Speaker 5: people usually laugh about it.
Speaker 2: So, m did it did this little this this little
Speaker 2: taste right of being in front of the camera, getting
Speaker 2: a little attention on yourself? Did it not feel good?
Speaker 2: Did it spark anything within you too to uh seek
Speaker 2: after more news coverage or more notoriety for yourself for
Speaker 2: your farm?
Speaker 5: So I kind of take this from my dad and
Speaker 5: my uncle, and you know, they're very kind of self
Speaker 5: raised kind of people. They I didn't really like seek
Speaker 5: any fame for you know, I was kind of young
Speaker 5: when it came out, and uh, my dad and my
Speaker 5: uncle just kind of they just made short fame of it.
Speaker 5: And then since then, I, I don't know, it's just
Speaker 5: kind of cools, just one of those things just just
Speaker 5: to say to Yeah, we were future on it. And
Speaker 5: now they didn't really say us by name. But I
Speaker 5: don't know, I just just a conversation starter.
Speaker 2: So your farm boy sort of.
Speaker 5: I mean, I after I went to college, just kind
Speaker 5: of went to uh, went off to her, went off
Speaker 5: and did some engineering stuff and kind of broke away
Speaker 5: from that.
Speaker 2: And what are you doing now? You're in engineering school?
Speaker 5: No, so I graduated. Now I'm working at engineering firm.
Speaker 2: By the way, it says here that you called in
Speaker 2: because you wanted to talk about playing Monopoly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so what are your takes on landing on the
Speaker 5: ghost space? Do you take four hundred or do you
Speaker 5: just take the two hundred?
Speaker 2: Oh, it's just one of those house rules.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess. I mean we were just playing some
Speaker 5: Monopoly and we were having some drinks and we were
Speaker 5: just kind of discussing. They're calling me a pussy for
Speaker 5: asking for four hundred. I was like, you know, that's
Speaker 5: just kind of how I've always played.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, here's the thing. I think when
Speaker 2: it comes to Monopoly, if you're going to be incorporating
Speaker 2: any sort of house rules, you have to set them
Speaker 2: before anything happens, because nothing's more annoying than creating rules
Speaker 2: as you go, because what will start to happen is
Speaker 2: you'll be creating rules that work primarily in your favor. Right,
Speaker 2: Like you have to set the if I land on
Speaker 2: go and I collect four hundred dollars rule. You have
Speaker 2: to set it immediately because if you set it only
Speaker 2: when you land on go, people are gonna think something's
Speaker 2: going on, which you know I would agree with. I
Speaker 2: would I would think something is going on.
Speaker 5: Right, And I think that that kind of happened.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: I was starting to drink before the game started, and
Speaker 5: then when I landed on go, I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: so I get four hundred, and they're like, no, you're
Speaker 5: a pussy, you get two hundred. I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: I guess that wasn't a part of this conversation.
Speaker 2: No, that see, that's the thing is you this this
Speaker 2: is this is a great example of the necessity for clear,
Speaker 2: honest and open communication. You must set the ground rules
Speaker 2: for the game at the very start lest you be
Speaker 2: reasonably accused of manipulation.
Speaker 5: Right right, which is very fair. So I definitely understand that.
Speaker 5: But uh, this little butt hurt that I didn't get
Speaker 5: my extra two hundred.
Speaker 2: But you know what, you know what, It's okay to
Speaker 2: be but hurt. It's okay to be butt hurt for
Speaker 2: a little bit. But your butt hurtness needs to drive
Speaker 2: you further towards learning this lesson. So so really really
Speaker 2: fuel your butt hurt and let it serve you so
Speaker 2: that next time, to avoid your butt hurt when you
Speaker 2: go to play monopoly, you will set your rules from
Speaker 2: the beginning.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I completely understand. And drinking beforehand. Yeah okay, yeah, absolutely, man,
Speaker 5: take care. I hope you have a great night.
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Speaker 2: wonder what it's like. Seems a little dangerous because if
Speaker 2: you're like flopping around on there a three some on
Speaker 2: a waterbed feels like it would eventually lead to some
Speaker 2: form of leakage feels like there is a lot of
Speaker 2: potential for multiple fluids to be intermingling in a situation
Speaker 2: like that, Like let's say there's a hole in the
Speaker 2: waterbed through which UH liquids can enter but not leave.
Speaker 2: If you have enough multi person sex, or even if
Speaker 2: you have enough standard two person sex on a waterbed
Speaker 2: like that, eventually, after for a few months, you'll be
Speaker 2: sleeping on a come and piss bed, which who knows,
Speaker 2: might be very comfortable. I gotta get a waterbed. Never
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Speaker 2: every night. Never be Get goes to it. His hide's
Speaker 2: teaching you cloud in the lid of your life. Money's
Speaker 2: not really an expert.