1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: I ran it by my family, my whole family and 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: my sister and my wife, and they all agree because 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: she's just wild. She's he just wilds out and does 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: these things, so it wouldn't surprise me. And she thought, man, 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: I kind of want to fuck my nephew today. I'm 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: a mess, Alex. 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: Hello, Hey, Alex, how you doing? 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: I am doing well? How you doing? 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: Gek It says here you think your aunt might have 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: sexted you today? 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 1: Well, so it kind of gave off the feeling of it. 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: So I guess some background. She's kind of uh, she's 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: cheated on my uncle before, so you know she's kind 14 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: she's kind of out there. And the text do you 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: want to read the text? 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: Sure, let's hear the text, all right. 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: So she texts me and she says, hey, Alex, I 18 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: got fired from my job today and I told insert 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: my uncle's name, I feel like me and you should bond. 20 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: All jokes aside, I'm a mess. 21 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: That's the text. 22 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:31,639 Speaker 1: That's the text. And it just led me to believe 23 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: the only time you would insert I'm a mess and 24 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: we should bond is if you're trying to cop a feel. 25 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna throw this out here immediately. Okay, 26 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: I think I I I think I think something's going 27 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: on with you that you're interpreting that text sexually. 28 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: Interesting. We'll see here, we're not very close, that's the thing. 29 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: I don't really speak to her, so we don't have 30 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: some sort of relationship, right. 31 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: But so here's my question, why would Okay, you and 32 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: your aunt are not very close with each other, so 33 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 2: it would make sense that she wants to hang out 34 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: with you, bond with you, form a closer relationship with you, especially, 35 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: you know, if if things aren't going well with her husband, 36 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: only because she wants to have more time with her family. 37 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: And I'm wondering why exactly you think there is a 38 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 2: sexual connotation here. 39 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: I think it just has more to do with the circumstances. 40 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: I think if she sent this text, it just has 41 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: to do with with I guess it's more of who 42 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: she is. So the way I would take her, you 43 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: know that the way her perception is, I don't know, 44 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. What do you think? What's your thoughts? 45 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: Well, when you say you when you say that this 46 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: interpretation that she is hitting on you comes from who 47 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 2: she is? What is it about her that makes you 48 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: think this is a sexual text. 49 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: Because she's just wild. She's she just wilds out and 50 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: does these things. She cheats, she's you know, she's kind 51 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: of who she is. So it wouldn't surprise me if 52 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: she thought, Man, I kind of want to fuck my 53 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: nephew today. I'm a mess. 54 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: So you think, I mean, granted, are you ran it 55 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: by someone? 56 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: I ran it by my family, my whole family, and 57 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: my sister and my wife, and they all agree. My 58 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: mom said she was drunk when she sent the So 59 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: I think that adds more to the equation. 60 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: Your mom and your wife, and who is the other person? 61 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: My dad and my sister, Your mom, your wife. 62 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: Your dad, and your sister, all of them unanimously think 63 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: that you're all just trying to fuck you. Yes, really 64 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: has she ever? Because I would say that. Look, cheating 65 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: is one thing, but I feel like cheating and incest 66 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: are not in the same category. I don't feel like 67 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: somebody that would cheat is also somebody that would commit 68 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: in sexual incestual sex acts. It's a tongue twister in 69 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: had incestual sex acts. 70 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: I think that was a that was a good one, 71 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: thank you. But I think she has a thing with uh, 72 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: just blurred lines. You know, she's not blood related. It's 73 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: my mom's dad's wife. I mean my mom's brother's wife. 74 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: Excuse me. 75 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, this makes a little slightly more plausible. 76 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: So it's your uncles. You and your uncle are blood related, 77 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: and this is your uncle's wife. Correct. Okay, all right, 78 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: that's not as bad as if it was your blood 79 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: on it. 80 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's yeah. I think if this 81 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: is my blood related aunt, then I wouldn't have jumped 82 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: straight to Oh, she's trying to cop a field. It's 83 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: trying to diddle me. 84 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: Okay, No, that's important. 85 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: There's I guess there's a lot more into it, into 86 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: the equation. 87 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: Okay, what else fact is to the equation? 88 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: Well, that's just it all that m hmm. 89 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: Okay, So what's next here for you? Are you? Do 90 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: you respond to this text? 91 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: Well? 92 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: See that's that. This was what was next. I said, Hey, 93 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: maybe I should speak to a get go to decide 94 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: what I do next. I did not respond. 95 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: You didn't respond? Okay, well I did not. What would 96 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: be an ideal outcome for you? Do you do you 97 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: want to spend more time with your aunt? 98 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: No? Not at this point. Not at this point. 99 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm. I feel like it would make sense for 100 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: you to leave the text alone. 101 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: Then does leave it be no need to kind of 102 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: go further with it or tell my uncle? Is that 103 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: a thing? Should I do that? 104 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: You think it was? 105 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 4: Like, here's my thought. 106 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: If it was, please tell me your thoughts. 107 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: If it was a different situations, say your best friend's 108 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: girlfriend was coming on to you kind of like that, Hey, 109 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: i'm a mess, we should bond. I feel like you 110 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: would tell your best friend. But when it's your aunt, 111 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: you know, do you tell your uncle? That's different. That's 112 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: a different ballgame. 113 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: What's your relationship like with your uncle? 114 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 5: You're pretty close. 115 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: Listen, here's the thing. And I don't know your aunt, 116 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: but I'm just I'm not sold that this is a 117 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: sexual text. 118 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: So you think there's a chance she was just drunk mess? 119 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: I think so. I mean, I'm a copy of bond 120 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: though I take things at face value. If your aunt 121 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: says that she wants to bond with you more, but 122 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: then you threw in the thing about how she's not 123 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: your blood aunts, and that made the whole situation a 124 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: little bit more plausible. But I would say that if 125 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: you don't want to get involved with the situation. You 126 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: might just want to leave the text alone. What does 127 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: your wife think you should do? 128 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think she said leave the text alone. Hey, babe, 129 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: what do you think I should do with the text? Nothing? 130 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: She says nothing. 131 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: Can I talk to her real quick just before we go? 132 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can absolutely speak to her Mischian. 133 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, what's your name? 134 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 4: Mary? 135 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: Mary? Mary? I feel I think it would be nice 136 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: to get your perspective on this. I personally don't think 137 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: that this text is giving off vibes that Alex's aunt 138 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: wants to have sex with him. But you you sound 139 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: like you you think otherwise. 140 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 6: Well, from what I can tell, me and my whole 141 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 6: are recently married. So she's been married since October. And 142 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 6: the first time I met her was at the wedding, 143 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 6: and none of my husband's family really liked her, and 144 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 6: everyone was kind of like stand offish about why they 145 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 6: didn't like her. Some then, you know, I kind of 146 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 6: started to cry a little bit more. And apparently she 147 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 6: has a history of kind of just cheating and not 148 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 6: being there for the right reasons. And it's hard to 149 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 6: explain her personality because she's kind of shy, but it 150 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 6: almost is like like she's trying to get something from 151 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 6: you while trying to act polite. So I could definitely 152 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 6: see why. It's like, why everyone thinks it she does 153 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 6: not have good intentions. 154 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 5: With the same. 155 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: Or have you advised Alex to leave it alone rather 156 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: than pursue this any further. 157 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 6: Well, of course he just wants to find out what 158 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 6: it is so he can kill his buddies or whatever. 159 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 6: Like I really don't care if he does. 160 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: But you think, okay, So you think do you think okay? 161 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 2: So you just brought up a very interesting element. Do 162 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: you think that he almost secretly wants to interpret this 163 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: text as his aunt wanting to have sex with him 164 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: so that he can use it as a flex? 165 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 6: See I thought that at first. However, he didn't reach 166 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 6: out to his friends first. He immediately went to his 167 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 6: mom and dad because they don't like the girl and 168 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 6: that makes me think otherwise. And then once everyone else agreed, 169 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 6: he sent it to his friends group Chad and was like, hey, like, 170 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 6: what do y'all think about this? And everyone's like yeah, 171 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 6: Like I feel like she is not asking. 172 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 2: He's kind of using it as a flex a little 173 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: bit to be like, Hey, my aunt wants to have 174 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: sex with because guys like I Because look, I feel like, 175 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: you know, guys gain a lot of confidence just from 176 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: like not even from like sleeping with women, but just 177 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: from like a knowing that they would want to. And 178 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: is there something like that going on with him? But 179 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: with his aunt? 180 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 7: It's possible. 181 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 6: It's definitely possible. I mean I wouldn't. 182 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's out of question. 183 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 6: But I mean I don't blame him. I mean, it's 184 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 6: just guys to having fun. It's like harmless fun. Yes, 185 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 6: if he kept bagging on with the aunt, then that'd 186 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 6: be a concern. And like he's been keeping me updated 187 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 6: with like all what his friends say, and like we've 188 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 6: been laughing about it all day. So it's not I 189 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 6: don't it's not bothering me. 190 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: In any way. 191 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 6: But I mean, yes, I do. I do think he 192 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 6: is trying to impress it from in some sort. 193 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much for sharing. Mary. Can I 194 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: talk to Alex and we'll wrap it up? 195 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 5: You can. 196 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: Hello, gig Hey, Alex. 197 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 2: How you doing. 198 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm well, man, I'm well. 199 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: Listen Alex. Before we go, I want to I want 200 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: to bring up this sort of theory that Mary and 201 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: I are talking about here secretly, secretly. Do you consider 202 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: it a flex that your aunt wants to have sex 203 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: with you? 204 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 7: Yes? 205 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: Yes, Hey, thank you for calling, Alex, appreciate you sharing 206 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 2: a story with us. 207 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, Greg, you have a great night. 208 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: People take what they can get in this world. Anything, 209 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 2: anything to make them feel like they're wanted, they're attractive, 210 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: People will take it. That's the world we live in, 211 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: That's how our brains work. So I felt no one 212 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: for nothing. 213 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 7: Hello, Hello, Hi? 214 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: Is this I'm gonna fuck up pronouncing your name? But 215 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: can I try? Can I try? And you can tell 216 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 2: me if I did it right? 217 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 6: Safe? 218 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: Is it safe? 219 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 4: Yes? 220 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 2: I'm a genius. How do people because how do people 221 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: normally pronounce it? Because I have people probably fuck it 222 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 2: up a lot. What are the most common fuck ups 223 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: of that name? 224 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 4: Oh? My god, I get so many. I get Paige, 225 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 4: I get face like like your face. 226 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 2: How do people How do people get Paige from Safe? 227 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 4: I really don't know. Oh, honestly, I guess because they 228 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 4: sound similar. I never understood it, though, but I've been 229 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 4: getting it my whole life. 230 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: Well, listen, page, what's going on with you? 231 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 4: Nothing much? And just watching your stream. 232 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: Well, listen, it says here you told a person this. 233 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: You called the phone number, a person asked you what 234 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: you wanted to talk about, and you told them that 235 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: you get nightmares every You've been having nightmares every single 236 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: night for your entire life. Is this correct? 237 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 4: Yes? 238 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: What is that? 239 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 5: Like? 240 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 4: Oh, it's horrible. It's been going on since my whole life, 241 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 4: like literally since I was a child, since like I 242 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 4: was four years old. And they're like really intense and 243 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 4: like gruesome. 244 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: They've been happening every single night without fits as you're 245 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: twenty years old. They started when you were four years old? 246 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: And has it been sixteen years? Every single night of 247 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: these nightmares. 248 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 4: Every single night. 249 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: Every single night? 250 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? 251 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: And is it the same nightmare or are we talking 252 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: different nightmares? 253 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 4: So some of them are the same, Like I've had 254 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 4: some since I was a child, and they'll be like 255 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 4: exactly the same from years ago. But sometimes they're just 256 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: brand new ones. Sometimes they're similar situations, you know, So 257 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 4: it's really weird. 258 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: Tell me about the most reoccurring one that you've had 259 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: throughout the past sixteen years. 260 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: Okay, So I am in this like weird mall, and 261 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: there's like like an alarm going off, like flashing lights, 262 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 4: and people are like running to get out of the mall, 263 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 4: and I am just like wandering around. I'm like seeing 264 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 4: all the stores and stuff like that, and it's like 265 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: a it's like a normal mall, but like you could 266 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 4: tell that it's off. And so I'm walking around and 267 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 4: I get to the well. There's some other stuff that happens, 268 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 4: but basically I get to the roof and it turns 269 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 4: out it was a zombie apocalypse and the zombies are 270 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 4: coming through the door. I'm on the ledge of the 271 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 4: roof and all my friends and family are down below, 272 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 4: like on the floor, and they're telling me that the 273 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 4: only way to stop the zombie apocalypse apocalypse is if 274 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 4: I jump off, and then I ends up jumping and 275 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 4: waking up right before I hit the ground. 276 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, so you're dangling on off of or you're 277 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: dangling or you like you're you're like standing by the 278 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: edge of this roof. 279 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 4: I'm standing by the edge. 280 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: You're standing by the edge behind you as a horde 281 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: of zombies below you, as all your friends and family 282 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 2: telling you to jump off the building and kill yourself. 283 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 284 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: Interesting, So how does that feel like watching all your 285 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 2: friends and family tell you to jump off a building 286 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: and kill yourself. 287 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 4: It's it used to be like really like like impactful 288 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 4: to me. Like I used to like wake up and 289 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 4: think about it like all day when I would get 290 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 4: the nightmare. But now since it's like kind of happened 291 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 4: so much, I'm just kind of, like I want to say, 292 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 4: like numb to it. 293 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: Oh, I have so many questions. Uh so, Oh my god, 294 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: I just forgot all of them. So how often does 295 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: this particular nightmare take place? 296 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 4: Probably maybe twice a month? 297 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 2: Twice a month, Okay, And so you say you become 298 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: numb to this? Does there become a point, like, you know, 299 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: you know what lucid dreaming is, right where you know 300 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: that you're in a dream. Yeah, every time, Now that 301 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 2: you've had this dream so many times, has it become 302 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: easy for you to recognize when you're in the dream, 303 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 2: therefore giving you more control over it or you know, 304 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 2: allowing you to freak out about it less. 305 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. So, as as I've gotten older, I actually like 306 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 4: I have more lucid dreams now, So I like realize 307 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: that I'm in a nightmare and I try to wake 308 00:18:55,720 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: myself up like in the dream like I'll inch my arm. 309 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 4: That's what I do in the dream, and it usually 310 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 4: doesn't work to wake me up, but at least, like 311 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 4: I know that, like I'm in a dream and I'm safe, 312 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 4: and I just have to like if it's like a 313 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 4: reoccurring dream, I just have to go through what's happening 314 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 4: in the dream so that I can wake up. 315 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so it becomes like clockwork, You're like, oh, I'm 316 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: back in the dream. All I gotta do is jump 317 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: off of this building and kill myself and then I'm. 318 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 4: Fine, yep, exactly. 319 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: But then, okay, So if you're in the dream and 320 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: you know it's a dream and you know you're safe 321 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: and nothing back can happen to you, do you never 322 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 2: like try to make some alternate choices like go back 323 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: and start punching the zombies in the face, or like 324 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 2: you know, run around, or like you know, try to 325 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: start like maybe inching your way down the building or 326 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: like using a find a ladder or something like. Do 327 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: you never make like alternate choices now that you know 328 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: that none of them will will that they all end 329 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: with you waking up. 330 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 4: So I I've tried, like in the dream, like to 331 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 4: make like different choices, but it's always the same ending, 332 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 4: like it always ends up. I guess with this one, 333 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 4: it always ends up with me jumping off, like no 334 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 4: matter what I do, like even if I try to, 335 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 4: Like I don't know, there was one time where I 336 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 4: tried talking to my family and friends from the room. 337 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 4: They were like it was they were like hollow husks 338 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 4: of themselves, like they had no personality, and they just 339 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 4: kept on saying like the same things over and over, 340 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 4: like the only way to save everyone is if you jump, 341 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 4: like there's no way to get out of this, like 342 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 4: just a lot of stuff like that. But they wouldn't 343 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 4: say anything else like that, and like they I remember, 344 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 4: they were like pale, like they were pale versions of 345 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 4: themselves with like like just blank eyes. 346 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 2: So this nightmare you say is twice a month, So 347 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: how often is it a is it a fresh nightmare? 348 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 2: Because this one it sounds like, Okay, I've been through 349 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: the motions. All I gotta do is jump off the building, 350 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: kill myself. I'm good. But how often are you having 351 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 2: to deal with nightmares that are new to you? 352 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 4: Pretty much every other night? I only just get this one. 353 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 4: I don't know why I get this one. A lot, 354 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 4: but like other like repetitive dreams that I have, Like 355 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 4: I'll maybe get them once every couple of months, so 356 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 4: like really every other night is kind of like a 357 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 4: new dream. 358 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 2: Interesting. I almost feel like, uh, and tell me if 359 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 2: I have the wrong here, But is there is there 360 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: anything exciting about that? You're like, oh, it's like you're 361 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: opening up a new horror each night. But it's kind 362 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: of yeah. I mean, you know, they're the exploration of 363 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: horror is a medium of entertainment, is a very real thing. 364 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: Do you ever look at it like that? Or am 365 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: I completely off? 366 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 4: No? I you're totally right, because like I also do 367 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 4: like free writing in my free time, so like I 368 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 4: will write, like I think it's like kind of interesting 369 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 4: because it's like, oh, I'm getting new inspiration every night. 370 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: That's how I kind of have put a spin on it. 371 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 2: Now, totally totally. 372 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 373 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 2: So you will take these dreams and you'll transmute them into. 374 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 4: Your writing, Yeah, exactly, Like I'll try to write like 375 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 4: even just like a short story about them. Yeah, just 376 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 4: like whatever happens in it, just try to get it 377 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 4: down because it's kind of like journaling and it's kind 378 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 4: of like like I like writing, so it's like a 379 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 4: little therapeutic read. 380 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: Oh go ahead, No, it's okay. I was gonna say 381 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: I would totally read a book called The Safe Nightmare Journal. Yeah, 382 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 2: have you ever thought about that? You ever thought about 383 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 2: publishing a nightmare journal? 384 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 4: Actually? Yeah, I kind of have been thinking about, like, 385 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 4: like you know, writing like a full on book about it, 386 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 4: because I don't really know anyone else who kind of 387 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 4: gets this, and I do think that it's like kind 388 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 4: of interesting. I mean, I'm sure there's like people like 389 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 4: other people, but like personally, I don't know anyone else 390 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 4: who gets this, and everyone that I tell it to, 391 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 4: they're like, you know, like that's really interesting. Obviously it's 392 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 4: but like like it's really interesting because there's no like 393 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 4: real reason why I get it. 394 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: What was your dream last night? 395 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 4: Okay, So it's it was a little much, but I 396 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 4: can't remember how it started. All I remember was like 397 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 4: the disturbing part that I was on a beach and 398 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: I looked down at my foot and my foot like 399 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 4: really hurt and it was like really like it felt 400 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 4: really raw. So then I take off my flip flop 401 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 4: and then it looked like a like a rotting fish. Corpse, 402 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 4: like just ripped open with like bones sticking out of it, 403 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 4: and like like just like what like a raw cut 404 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 4: open fish would look. 405 00:24:53,520 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 2: Like your foot looks like that? Yeah, And how did 406 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: you react to that? Are you not at a point 407 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 2: I mean, after sixteen years, are you not at a 408 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: point where you see you're rotting fish foot and you're like, ah, 409 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: this is nothing to me? What else you got? Brain? 410 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: Come on, it's been sixteen years of this. You can't 411 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: scare me with anything? Or is it still each night, 412 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 2: you know, a fresh hit to you? 413 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 4: It still like it still feels like scary, and I 414 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 4: still get like nervous and like I have a lot 415 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 4: of anxiety about it, even though that I know that, 416 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 4: like I know none of it's real and I know 417 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 4: that it's just my brain doing this to myself, But 418 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 4: like I still get that like kind of fear, you know, 419 00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 4: like almost like that primal fear, because like I'm like 420 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 4: when you're asleep, you're like you're most vulnerable, and so 421 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 4: it's like if that's happening in my head, like what's 422 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 4: happening outside you know? 423 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 5: M And. 424 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: That that primal fear, you know, like we were talking 425 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: about earlier, everyone there's a lot of people out there 426 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: who chase that with like horror movies and haunted houses 427 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 2: and whatnot. And and how successful have you been in 428 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: sort of reframing your attitude toward finding a thrill from 429 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: these dreams. 430 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not someone I like get very scared of 431 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 4: like horror movies and like scary things for you, like 432 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 4: I just always have. Yeah, it's just not for me. Like, yeah, 433 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 4: I just don't like it. 434 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: So the final thing I kind of want to explore 435 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: with this is have you what have your efforts looked, like, 436 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: if any, to cure yourself of this. Have you ever 437 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 2: gone to a like dream therapist or some sort of 438 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: mind doctor or something to find out why this is 439 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 2: happening to you? 440 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been to Like I've been to a couple therapists. 441 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 4: I'm on like some medications for it, but really like 442 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 4: they no one knows what to do about it. They 443 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,479 Speaker 4: don't know like how to help. I try, Like I 444 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 4: try taking melotonin, I try, you know, doing a bunch 445 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 4: of stuff to try to like get myself to stay asleep, 446 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 4: and like maybe like if I put myself in a 447 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 4: deeper sleep, maybe like I won't experience the nightmare, but 448 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 4: nothing has helped. So I'm kind of thinking about maybe 449 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 4: doing a sleep study and and like trying to find 450 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 4: someone else who can, like maybe like a sleep specialist. 451 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 4: I don't know if they have those there. 452 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: No, I'm sure they do. Somebody who can like hook 453 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 2: you up to some some wires or sprain scanners or 454 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: something and like look at the neuro patterns while you're 455 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: while you're asleep. 456 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 4: Exactly like just like see like, oh, maybe my body 457 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 4: is like reacting to it. I don't know how I'm sleeping, Like, 458 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 4: I'm sure I know it is, because like I wake 459 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 4: up in like a pool of sweat, so like I 460 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 4: know that my body is like experiencing the fear like physically. 461 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 4: So I'm sure that like if I did a sleep study, 462 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 4: they'd be able to like see like when my brain 463 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 4: peaks or whatever. 464 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: Do you think that there are anything? Do you do 465 00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: you believe that dreams tell us things about our subconscious 466 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: just like like this recurring dream of you having to 467 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: jump off a building because your family is yelling at 468 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: you and there's a zombie apocalypse and this rotting foot thing, 469 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: Like do you think that these are completely random firings 470 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: of neurons or are they trying to tell you something 471 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 2: about what you subconsciously think and feel. 472 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 4: I think some of them are like deep and like 473 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 4: I think some of them kind of are like a 474 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,239 Speaker 4: window into my subconscious But I think like some of 475 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 4: them like looking down at my foot and seeing like 476 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 4: a dead fish corpse, Like I can't really get any 477 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 4: sort of like anything from that. I don't think there's 478 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 4: anything really from that. 479 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: I would be trying to tell you either. 480 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess like some of like the more like 481 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 4: intricate and intense ones probably have like something to do 482 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 4: with like my personality and my brain and what's going 483 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 4: on in my head. And but I'm I'm sure a 484 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 4: lot of them are probably just like what, what's a 485 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 4: new thing that we could throw at her tonight? You know? 486 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 2: And I mean it sounds like you're getting better and 487 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: better at dealing with this, I mean every single night. 488 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: I mean that sounds sounds pretty exhausting. 489 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've definitely gotten a lot better with it. Like 490 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 4: I know kind of well, I know like how to 491 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 4: like act in like a lucid dream. I kind of know, 492 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 4: like like if I sleep within like a certain setting, 493 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 4: you know, like in a cool room or something like that. 494 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 4: Then like, I kind of not that it's like better, 495 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 4: but it kind of is less intense than some other ones. 496 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 4: Like so I kind of I know some coping skills 497 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 4: to deal with it, but of course they're only like temporary, 498 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 4: you know. 499 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: Well, Safe, thank you for sharing this, Thank you for 500 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 2: sharing this with us. This was super super interesting. Is 501 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: there anything else that you want to say to the 502 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 2: people before we before we go? 503 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 4: I think, everyone go buy little plush gnomes I have. 504 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 4: We have so many in my house and they're adorable 505 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 4: and they make me very happy. So everyone should go 506 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 4: buy plush gnomes. 507 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: I like. I like that. It's a very specific thing 508 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: that I because everyone you know, a lot of people 509 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: when I ask them or do you have anything else 510 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: to say, they go, everyone have a good day. It's like, well, 511 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: that's not something I can't do. That that's not something 512 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: I can It's not really actionable, but I thank you 513 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 2: for providing an actionable thing for the people listening. And 514 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 2: please write the Safe Dream Journal. That is a cool 515 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: name for a book and I would absolutely read it. 516 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 4: I'll dedicate it to you. 517 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: Gek beautiful, Thank you, saf have a good night, or 518 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: you know, try to. I will bye the Safe Dream Journal. 519 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: One of these days, I'm going to be browsing Amazon 520 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: and I'm going to see that pop up, and uh, 521 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: hopefully there'll be a little you know, how they know 522 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: how they have? They call at one singular page of 523 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 2: a dedication dedicated to the gecko guy on the computer. 524 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 2: I forgot what his name was, but I would definitely 525 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: read that book. Sasha, Hi, how are you? 526 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 3: I'm pretty good? 527 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: How about you? I'm a gecko on the computer. 528 00:32:59,080 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 6: Sounds about right. 529 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: Uh, what's going on? 530 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 3: Not much chilling hanging out playing computer games? Watching your stream, Sasha. 531 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: It says here you want to know if you should 532 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: be ashamed that you had to ship in a litter 533 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 2: box once. 534 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't know that I think about it. 535 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's so much that I should 536 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 3: feel shame about it. I think my fiance's problem is 537 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 3: more that I'm seeing proud of it. 538 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: Okay, this is a whole different call than I thought 539 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 2: it was. You were asking if you should be ashamed, 540 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: But I feel like the question is not should you 541 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 2: be ashamed? It's you're not ashamed of shitting in the 542 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 2: litter box. You sound like your battle. Well, okay, well, 543 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 2: you sound like your questioning if you should be ashamed 544 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 2: for being proud that you sit in the litter box. 545 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 3: That's that's actually perfect. That would be the exact way 546 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 3: that I would explain this situation. I'm not ashamed. I'm 547 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, I was born of necessity. 548 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 3: But I feel like that's wrong and maybe I should 549 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 3: be ashamed. 550 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 7: Where. 551 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 2: Okay, well here, let's let's let's take us one other 552 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 2: time here. Why are you proud of shitting in the 553 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 2: litter box? 554 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 3: I guess it was. I'm an inventive person, and I 555 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 3: really did make lemonade out of lemons in like a 556 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 3: really shitty situation. 557 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm hmm. Okay, go ahead, tell us you say 558 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 2: it's out of necessity. What was the situation? 559 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 3: I lived up in the mountains with a bunch of 560 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 3: people and a bunch of broken down trailers in Winnebagos. 561 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 3: One of our friends had cooked for the night, and 562 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 3: they cooked chicken, but I guess they didn't cook it 563 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 3: all the way. And I've up until that point, I 564 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 3: had never had food poisoning from eating raw chicken, but 565 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 3: I obviously it struck me that night I was sharing 566 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 3: a Winnebago at the time with my ex boyfriend who 567 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 3: I had just broken up with, and his cat was 568 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 3: living with us. So it was the three of us 569 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 3: and w a beego that didn't move that had a 570 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 3: bathroom in it, but the toilet and the shower were broken. 571 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 3: So it was like maybe two or three o'clock in 572 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 3: the morning when the motion started to hit me. And 573 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 3: so there was one working toilet on the property, but 574 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 3: it was like at least a quarter to a half 575 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 3: mile walk uphill to get to the working toilet, and 576 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 3: I just there was no time there. It wasn't going 577 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 3: to happen. So I and the litter box. Didn't I 578 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 3: say litter box lightly, There was no litter in it, 579 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 3: there was dirt in it. 580 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 6: So I grabbed the litter. 581 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 3: Box, put it on top of the toilet in the Winnebago, 582 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 3: and I had to ship in the litter box. I 583 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 3: also had to turn around and throw up in the 584 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 3: same litter box. I mean, it wasn't graceful, but it 585 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 3: was better than using the broken one inside the Winnebago. 586 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 3: I mean, they could have gone outside. 587 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 2: I agree with the with the the sort of first 588 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 2: sentiment that that you echoed here, which is that you 589 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 2: are proud of yourself for your ingenuity, for your ability 590 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 2: to be a problem solver. And I agree with you, Sasha. Sasha, 591 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 2: when you had to take a ship, when you had 592 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 2: to throw up, you did not complain that the toilet 593 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 2: wasn't working in the Winnebago. Is that what you said? 594 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 2: The toilet wasn't working in the Winnebago. Yeah, the toy. 595 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 2: You did not complain the toilet wasn't working in the Winnebago. 596 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:18,439 Speaker 2: You did not freak out, You kept calm, You had 597 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 2: a You searched not for further complaints, which you knew 598 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 2: would result in nothing, but rather you there was wasted 599 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 2: time in your solution oriented person. And my god, Sasha, 600 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 2: I think you should be proud of that. I think 601 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 2: you should be proud of that. I don't think that 602 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 2: there's any shame in the pride that you have for 603 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: your own problem solving initiatives. That's just my perspective, but. 604 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 3: That's mine too. But my fiance, I just I guess 605 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 3: you think that I shouldn't talk as much about it 606 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 3: to people. 607 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 2: Listen, Dude, I think I think that your fiance, for 608 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 2: whatever reason, just doesn't appreciate this aspect of you. That's fair, 609 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 2: But I think you should, you know, because it's a 610 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 2: it's a great quality to have it a person being 611 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 2: solution oriented. 612 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's that I'm a solution oriented. 613 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 3: I think it's that I tell a lot of pop 614 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 3: stories openly to people that are like just They don't 615 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 3: even have to be like close family. I could be 616 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 3: like coworkers or people that I'm chatting with, and I 617 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 3: just happen to just not have shame about bodily functions. 618 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 2: They're a part of life society. Tech makes so many 619 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 2: things taboo that are simply facts. People have sex with 620 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 2: each other, take shits, they have diarrheas, hi they people, 621 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 2: they people murder each other. That's happens. You know, all 622 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 2: these things taboo. I don't know why we do it, Tasha, 623 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 2: but props to you for doing your part to uh 624 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 2: remove the stigma. 625 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 3: Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I'm going to start 626 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:27,959 Speaker 3: looking at it that way. 627 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 2: Anything else you want to say before we. 628 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 3: Go, No, you just keep doing the good work that 629 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 3: you do. I'll be coming back sometime. 630 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, Sasha, have a the rest of the night, 631 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 2: you too. Hello is this Kellen. 632 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 7: Yes, it is hello Kellen. 633 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 2: What's going on? 634 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:47,919 Speaker 4: Man? 635 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 7: Not much, just watching your stream and waiting for my turn. 636 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 2: Well wait, no longer, your your turn has a right 637 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 2: and here it is. It's right now. It's maybe never 638 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 2: happen again. What would you like to do with this turn? 639 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 7: First of all, I want to say I'm a huge fan, 640 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 7: and also I have call anxiety, so you'll have to 641 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 7: excuse me a little bit. 642 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm a huge fan of you. You have call anxiety? 643 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 2: What is that? By the way? Okay, hold on. I've 644 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 2: talked to another caller who said that they have call 645 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 2: anxiety and they told me something and I don't know 646 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 2: if it's the same with you, but they told me 647 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 2: something that I found really interesting, which is they said 648 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 2: that they don't have like normal social anxiety, like they 649 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 2: like if they're talking to someone like in person, it's fine, 650 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 2: but specifically on the phone they feel anxious. Is that 651 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 2: you or are you sort of a three sixty anxiety guy? 652 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 7: Uh so, that's actually kind of a funny thing. I 653 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 7: do feel the same way. I was diagnosed with generalized anxiety, 654 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 7: but I don't feel as anxious talking to people like 655 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 7: face to face in person. It's usually when they can't 656 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 7: see my facial expressions or my body language that I 657 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 7: feel very anxious. 658 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 2: Interesting I would I mean, I know you, I know 659 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 2: there's no logic to the brain, but I feel like 660 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 2: it would make sense that if people can't see your 661 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 2: face or body, it don't makes it better because I 662 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 2: can just do whatever I want here, you know, and 663 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 2: it's fine. But but any who, any who? Enough about 664 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 2: enough about life? Kellen, Kellen, how would you like to 665 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 2: use your turn. 666 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 7: H So, my my brother watches you a lot. He 667 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 7: watches your tiktoks and your streams and stuff, and I 668 00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 7: guess I wanted to tell him something through this stream 669 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,919 Speaker 7: that I kind of feel like I'd never be able 670 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 7: to tell him to his face because my brother is 671 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 7: one of the only people I get physical anxiety with 672 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 7: me and my most growing up. 673 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 2: Why do you get physical anxiety from your brother? 674 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 7: He's kind of like a parent to me almost. He 675 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 7: kind of raised me when we were growing up, Like 676 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 7: I still had my parents, but they were divorced and 677 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 7: they were both my parents are something. So my brother 678 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 7: was the one that was there for me, taking care 679 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 7: of me and stuff. So I guess I just get 680 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 7: a lot of anxiety because I don't want him to 681 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 7: think badly of me, and I don't want to disappoint 682 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 7: him by just being who I am. 683 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 2: I guess mm hmmm hm, So go ahead. I I 684 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 2: interrupted you by asking you a question. I want to 685 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 2: let you talk. 686 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 7: I guess I just really wanted to say that, like, 687 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 7: I'm really grateful for my brother, and even if we 688 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 7: argue and stuff, he is kind of like one of 689 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 7: my best friends in the whole world. His name is Evan. 690 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 7: He's a very good person, and he's taken very good 691 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 7: care of me. We do get into arguments a lot, 692 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 7: because all siblings do. But I guess I just really 693 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 7: wanted to tell him, but I can't tell him face 694 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 7: to face, which is that I appreciate him a lot, 695 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 7: and he is one of my best friends in the 696 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 7: whole world, and I really don't know what I do 697 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 7: without him. 698 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 2: Interesting, So he listens to this podcast, So you're saying 699 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 2: this so that he'll listen to the podcast and he'll 700 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 2: hear you say it. Yes, So why do you feel 701 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:44,320 Speaker 2: like you can't tell him this to his face? 702 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 7: So, my brother's a very tough person, like he's he's 703 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 7: one of those people where like if you cry in 704 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 7: front of him or something like that, he'll he'll just 705 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 7: get up and leave because he's not very good with 706 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 7: dealing with emotions. And I understand that I don't want 707 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 7: to like dump that on him, like I'm laughing. 708 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 2: Well, I'm laughing because I feel like a lot of 709 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 2: this this podcast is like, you know, people talking about 710 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 2: all sorts of ship. So it's funny to me that 711 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:20,919 Speaker 2: he uh uh doesn't like people expressing themselves when that's 712 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 2: sort of a lot of what goes on here. 713 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 7: He mostly he mostly watches I will admit, for like 714 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 7: the funny the funny poop stories and stuff like that. 715 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 7: But I feel like maybe he should get interrupted by 716 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 7: his younger brother giving him some love. 717 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 2: Well, that's very sweet of you. That's very sweet of you. 718 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 2: Hmm Okay. So, so you feel as though you have 719 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 2: a hard time connecting with him because he's uh, he's 720 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 2: not very uh emotionally available. 721 00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 7: Perhaps, Yeah, And I do understand because, like I said, 722 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 7: our parents growing up, both of our parents have always 723 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 7: been a little emotionally unavailable. So I can definitely see 724 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 7: where he gets it from. And I do notice a 725 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,280 Speaker 7: lot that he's more emotionally available towards me than other people. 726 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,959 Speaker 7: But I guess my thing is, I mostly just don't 727 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 7: want to overload him or give him the impression that 728 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 7: I'm it's gonna sound rd like I want to give 729 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 7: my brother the impression that I'm a strong person like 730 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 7: he is and that I can do the things he 731 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 7: can do. And I guess just I don't want to 732 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 7: overload him with me being an emotional person. 733 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 2: Hmm, this is interesting. You sound like you have a lie. 734 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 2: I respect that. I respect that you. It's good. It's 735 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 2: good to get into a practice of telling people how 736 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 2: you feel about them. I think that's nice. We've had 737 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 2: a lot of discussion about, you know, how short life is, 738 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 2: and there's been a lot of mortality talk this evening 739 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 2: and whatnot, and I feel like part of that is 740 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,800 Speaker 2: to recognize that, you know whatever, we don't have a 741 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 2: lot of time left on this earth, and while we 742 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 2: have people now, while we're here now, it's good to 743 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 2: let people know how you feel about them. So I 744 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 2: don't think that there's a weakness to that. I think 745 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 2: there's maybe even an inherent strength to that, because you're right, 746 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 2: it feels a little corny telling your friends you love them, 747 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 2: telling uh, your brother you love them. You know they'll 748 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 2: be like, what are you on drugs or something? You know, 749 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 2: are you on a fucking ecstasy and that's why you're 750 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 2: acting so weird? You're like, no, brother, I in sober mind, 751 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 2: I would like to tell you that I appreciate you 752 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 2: and I love you, and I mean even me acting 753 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 2: you out right now saying that I feel a little weird. 754 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 2: But whatever, we push through that because it has to 755 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 2: be said, even if it's a little uncomfortable. 756 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,439 Speaker 7: Uh yeah, I really appreciate it, I guess. I guess. 757 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 7: My other thing was that I also kind of guess 758 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,280 Speaker 7: I with all the existential talk, I kind of also 759 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 7: wanted to tell him something else. I would never feel 760 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 7: comfortable telling him face to face because we're both going 761 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 7: through a struggle, which is I used to be in 762 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 7: a very dark place where like I kind of not 763 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 7: necessarily I wasn't like I didn't want to offer myself, 764 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 7: like I just didn't want to exist. And my brother 765 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 7: was the one that kind of showed me like, hey, 766 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 7: life is you know, a lot more worth living than 767 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 7: just oh life is crap, and I don't want to 768 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 7: live it anymore. Like he's the one that showed me 769 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 7: everything gets better and you're going to get better friends 770 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,919 Speaker 7: in the future, and you're going to have a better life. 771 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 7: It just takes time. And I guess right now I'm 772 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 7: seeing him kind of go through the thing that I 773 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 7: was going through, and I don't know how to be 774 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 7: there for him like he was for me, because since 775 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,399 Speaker 7: I'm such an emotional person and he's not very much 776 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 7: an emotional person, he has the ability to just be like, 777 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 7: not necessarily. He never told me to suck it up. 778 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 7: He just told me, like, it gets better, and like, 779 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 7: you will be emotional, but it gets better. And I 780 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 7: just don't have the ability to say that because I'm 781 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 7: a very like I'm the kind of person where I'm like, 782 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,399 Speaker 7: it's okay to cry and be emotional, get it out, 783 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 7: do it. You gotta do it. And he's very like, 784 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 7: if you have emotions, just not necessarily keep it in, 785 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 7: but don't force it outwards. 786 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 2: How old is your brother? Can I ask? 787 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 7: He's twenty five. He's sixty years older than me. 788 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm about hmmmmmmmm mmmm. Okay, So your brother supported 789 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,439 Speaker 2: you through all this ship and now your brother's gone 790 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 2: through some ship and you're like, A, how do I 791 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 2: you know? You're you're You're like, I don't know if 792 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 2: I have the tools to reciprocate, but your intentions are there. 793 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 2: Your intentions are there. 794 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:23,359 Speaker 6: M hmm. 795 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 2: I have a I have a couple thoughts that I'm 796 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 2: like thinking about right now. Part of me wants to say, like, 797 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 2: all right, well, you your brother showed you, uh what 798 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 2: he You know, your brother sort of gave you his 799 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 2: perspectives that's a little bit more stoic than yours. And 800 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,919 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, maybe maybe this is an opportunity to show 801 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 2: your brother a little bit more of your perspective and 802 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 2: see if he's open to that. But I don't know. 803 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 2: I don't know how help in mind that he is 804 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 2: to to your line of thinking. But I would say this, 805 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 2: even if you don't feel like you can reciprocate directly 806 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,800 Speaker 2: what your brother has done for you to your brother, 807 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 2: you know, like say that you're too intimidated or or 808 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,360 Speaker 2: you are gonna say some stuff to him and you 809 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 2: don't feel like it'll get through to him, right Maybe 810 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 2: if you feel like like reciprocating what he gave to 811 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 2: you back to him is a lost cause I don't 812 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 2: know if it is. But if that's how you're feeling, 813 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 2: you're in luck because what your brother gave you, you 814 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 2: don't necessarily have to reciprocate it back to him, right 815 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 2: you can. You can. You can give that energy back 816 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 2: to anyone, and that can be a form of reciprocation. Right, 817 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 2: You can pay that forward to anyone in your life, 818 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 2: you know, fucking strangers on the internet, your friends, whoever 819 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 2: it is. So you could think of it like that, like, 820 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 2: all right, my brother helped me out when I was 821 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 2: going through some shit, and if he's not going to 822 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 2: be open to me helping him out, whatever, I'll find 823 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 2: a way to pay it forward to someone. And get this, 824 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 2: you can do it in your own way, right. So, 825 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 2: if that's your philosophy and your truth is you're the 826 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,839 Speaker 2: kind of guy that has you know, you have your 827 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 2: own philosophy that you believe in that it's okay to cry, 828 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:50,880 Speaker 2: it's okay to feel, whatever your your mantra. Thing that 829 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 2: you have to say is you can find someone, whoever 830 00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 2: it is and pay it forward like that, right doesn't 831 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,880 Speaker 2: necessarily and that and that and that can sort of 832 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 2: be your way of reciprocation. Even if your brother is 833 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 2: not into it. Does that make sense? 834 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. 835 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 7: That's actually that is really good advice because I guess 836 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,360 Speaker 7: I feel like I also have a responsibility that, you know, 837 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 7: my brother did that for me, and I kind of 838 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,919 Speaker 7: feel like someone did that for me, you know, even 839 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 7: if it wasn't my brother, that someone did that for me, 840 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 7: and I should be able to do that for somebody else. 841 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 7: And I guess knowing that being there for my brother 842 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 7: in general and that I don't necessarily have to pay 843 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,319 Speaker 7: it forward to him specifically, is a lot of weight 844 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,320 Speaker 7: off my shoulders. 845 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,840 Speaker 2: Good good, Yeah, yeah, because I think, uh, because like 846 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 2: you can't like the way you gotta you gotta, you 847 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 2: gotta start of recognize this. This is sort of you know, 848 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 2: my final thought on it is like, how your brother 849 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 2: reacts to you, or how open your brother is to 850 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 2: the things that you have to tell him is not 851 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 2: within your control. It's not within your control at all. 852 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 2: How your brother reacts or how your brother is not 853 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 2: in your control. Your efforts and your intentions are in 854 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 2: your control, and you have good intentions. It sounds like, 855 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:24,359 Speaker 2: uh so I would take that shit that isn't when 856 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 2: you're within your control and do what you can in 857 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 2: in that arena, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And 858 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 2: I think that reciprocating that to other people is totally 859 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 2: in your control to just focus on that and not 860 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 2: like focusing on getting your brother to come around, you 861 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:46,720 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 862 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, Kellen, that very very good advice. 863 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 2: I hope. So I'm doing the best I can as 864 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,800 Speaker 2: a gecko on the computer. I don't know anything about life. 865 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:09,840 Speaker 2: I'm fourteen years old, and I actually before I started streaming, 866 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 2: I went to the bathroom and I when I took 867 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 2: my h I had a little pee on the tip 868 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,959 Speaker 2: of my penis, and so I like shook it and 869 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,720 Speaker 2: it got a bunch of pea all over my geck pants. 870 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,360 Speaker 2: And then I, oh no, and so I had it 871 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 2: was pretty like danse So I went. 872 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 7: Oh, some dance on the pants. 873 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:34,720 Speaker 1: Oh God. 874 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,440 Speaker 2: And now and now I'm here talking to you with 875 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 2: a little bit of a little bit of pea on 876 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:40,919 Speaker 2: my pants. 877 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 7: You know what, though, That's how life is. Sometimes Sometimes 878 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:46,399 Speaker 7: you just got to talk to people with a little 879 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:47,759 Speaker 7: bit of pea on your pants. 880 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:53,279 Speaker 2: Beautiful, Talk to you soon, Kellen, talk to you later. 881 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:54,320 Speaker 7: Bye bye. 882 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,719 Speaker 2: Someone said I need to wash the suit I'm not 883 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 2: washing the suit. It's too much work and I am lazy. Hello, Hey, 884 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 2: what's up is this? 885 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:14,319 Speaker 4: Uh? 886 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Conrad? 887 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,880 Speaker 5: Yeah him? 888 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 2: Uh, Normally it doesn't give me the first and last name, 889 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,359 Speaker 2: but you have. You have told the call screen are 890 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 2: both your first and last name? 891 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,319 Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, the counter name is pretty powerful and where 892 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,799 Speaker 5: I'm from, so that's kind of why I give it. 893 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 2: You said your name is very powerful where you come from. 894 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 5: Yeah. So, Uh, my dad and my uncle own a 895 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 5: dairy farm and we were actually featured on SNL. 896 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 2: You were featured on SNL. 897 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,880 Speaker 5: Yes, it is a very short skit. The uh, the 898 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:02,399 Speaker 5: guy who does the uh daily news kind of gave 899 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,240 Speaker 5: like a very short just kind of like one liner 900 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 5: about our farm. 901 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 2: Oh you were on the weekend update. 902 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much. 903 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 2: What do you remember what kind of mine was? 904 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? So they they pretty much said, uh, a farm 905 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 5: in northeast Ohio has recently installed waterbeds for the cows. 906 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 5: And then they also said this just in Uh, their 907 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,959 Speaker 5: farm has also introduced three ways for their cows something 908 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 5: like that. 909 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 2: How did you introducing waterbeds for your cows get to 910 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 2: the point where it became news? 911 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:48,840 Speaker 4: Uh? 912 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 5: So I want to say, either a CNN or Fox 913 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 5: came by and just kind of did a thing about it, 914 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,799 Speaker 5: and my my dad and my uncle were just just 915 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,280 Speaker 5: happened to be there. You know, they owned the farm, 916 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 5: so they, uh they kind of did a bit about it, 917 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 5: and uh, you know, Fox and CNN they just kind 918 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 5: of ate that ship up and I guess s and 919 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 5: now got a huge thing about it and made a 920 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 5: tiny skit about it. So I think it's pretty funny, 921 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 5: you know. I every time I bring up to somebody, 922 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 5: they think it's pretty funny. 923 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 2: And did this bring any sort of notoriety to your 924 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 2: family and their farm? 925 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:30,800 Speaker 6: Not really? 926 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 5: I mean, uh, just anytime I bring it up to somebody, 927 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 5: they just I just uh tell them that we were featured. 928 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 5: And I said, now it's just one of those kind 929 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 5: of small things that it's just kind of funny and 930 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 5: people usually laugh about it. 931 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 2: So, m did it did this little this this little 932 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 2: taste right of being in front of the camera, getting 933 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 2: a little attention on yourself? Did it not feel good? 934 00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 2: Did it spark anything within you too to uh seek 935 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 2: after more news coverage or more notoriety for yourself for 936 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 2: your farm? 937 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 5: So I kind of take this from my dad and 938 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 5: my uncle, and you know, they're very kind of self 939 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 5: raised kind of people. They I didn't really like seek 940 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 5: any fame for you know, I was kind of young 941 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,640 Speaker 5: when it came out, and uh, my dad and my 942 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 5: uncle just kind of they just made short fame of it. 943 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 5: And then since then, I, I don't know, it's just 944 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 5: kind of cools, just one of those things just just 945 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 5: to say to Yeah, we were future on it. And 946 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 5: now they didn't really say us by name. But I 947 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 5: don't know, I just just a conversation starter. 948 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 2: So your farm boy sort of. 949 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 5: I mean, I after I went to college, just kind 950 00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 5: of went to uh, went off to her, went off 951 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 5: and did some engineering stuff and kind of broke away 952 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:02,920 Speaker 5: from that. 953 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 2: And what are you doing now? You're in engineering school? 954 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 5: No, so I graduated. Now I'm working at engineering firm. 955 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 2: By the way, it says here that you called in 956 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 2: because you wanted to talk about playing Monopoly. 957 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:28,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, so what are your takes on landing on the 958 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 5: ghost space? Do you take four hundred or do you 959 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 5: just take the two hundred? 960 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 2: Oh, it's just one of those house rules. 961 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess. I mean we were just playing some 962 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 5: Monopoly and we were having some drinks and we were 963 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 5: just kind of discussing. They're calling me a pussy for 964 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 5: asking for four hundred. I was like, you know, that's 965 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 5: just kind of how I've always played. 966 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,080 Speaker 2: I think, you know, here's the thing. I think when 967 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 2: it comes to Monopoly, if you're going to be incorporating 968 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 2: any sort of house rules, you have to set them 969 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:06,720 Speaker 2: before anything happens, because nothing's more annoying than creating rules 970 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,440 Speaker 2: as you go, because what will start to happen is 971 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:16,040 Speaker 2: you'll be creating rules that work primarily in your favor. Right, 972 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 2: Like you have to set the if I land on 973 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 2: go and I collect four hundred dollars rule. You have 974 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 2: to set it immediately because if you set it only 975 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,600 Speaker 2: when you land on go, people are gonna think something's 976 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 2: going on, which you know I would agree with. I 977 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 2: would I would think something is going on. 978 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,560 Speaker 5: Right, And I think that that kind of happened. 979 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 4: You know. 980 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 5: I was starting to drink before the game started, and 981 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 5: then when I landed on go, I was like, oh, 982 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 5: so I get four hundred, and they're like, no, you're 983 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 5: a pussy, you get two hundred. I was like, no, no, no, 984 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 5: I guess that wasn't a part of this conversation. 985 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,160 Speaker 2: No, that see, that's the thing is you this this 986 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 2: is this is a great example of the necessity for clear, 987 01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 2: honest and open communication. You must set the ground rules 988 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 2: for the game at the very start lest you be 989 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 2: reasonably accused of manipulation. 990 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 5: Right right, which is very fair. So I definitely understand that. 991 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 5: But uh, this little butt hurt that I didn't get 992 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 5: my extra two hundred. 993 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 2: But you know what, you know what, It's okay to 994 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 2: be but hurt. It's okay to be butt hurt for 995 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 2: a little bit. But your butt hurtness needs to drive 996 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 2: you further towards learning this lesson. So so really really 997 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:47,600 Speaker 2: fuel your butt hurt and let it serve you so 998 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 2: that next time, to avoid your butt hurt when you 999 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 2: go to play monopoly, you will set your rules from 1000 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 2: the beginning. 1001 01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I completely understand. And drinking beforehand. Yeah okay, yeah, absolutely, man, 1002 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 5: take care. I hope you have a great night. 1003 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 2: You as well. Never slept on a waterbed before, I 1004 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:20,000 Speaker 2: wonder what it's like. Seems a little dangerous because if 1005 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 2: you're like flopping around on there a three some on 1006 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 2: a waterbed feels like it would eventually lead to some 1007 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,680 Speaker 2: form of leakage feels like there is a lot of 1008 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 2: potential for multiple fluids to be intermingling in a situation 1009 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 2: like that, Like let's say there's a hole in the 1010 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:49,800 Speaker 2: waterbed through which UH liquids can enter but not leave. 1011 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 2: If you have enough multi person sex, or even if 1012 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 2: you have enough standard two person sex on a waterbed 1013 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 2: like that, eventually, after for a few months, you'll be 1014 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 2: sleeping on a come and piss bed, which who knows, 1015 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:11,840 Speaker 2: might be very comfortable. I gotta get a waterbed. Never 1016 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,160 Speaker 2: be Get goes on the line taking your phone calls 1017 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 2: every night. Never be Get goes to it. His hide's 1018 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 2: teaching you cloud in the lid of your life. Money's 1019 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,560 Speaker 2: not really an expert.