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Speaker 2: All right, man, you go ahead. Welcome back to the
Speaker 2: Richard Sherman Podcast. We got a special guest PFF's highest
Speaker 2: rated corner last year, Jalen Johnson.
Speaker 4: How you doing, brother, I'm good getting called a big
Speaker 4: dog from a big dog.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 2: Hey, you out there putting it on tape. I can't.
Speaker 2: You got to get credits words too, even though they
Speaker 2: didn't on the top one hundred. I said, come on.
Speaker 3: Now, that's all good. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got a lot of respect for me,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure you get a lot of respect from
Speaker 2: your peers, even though the top one hundred, it gets
Speaker 2: skept it sometimes because it was a couple of times
Speaker 2: I wasn't on there where I was like, man, what
Speaker 2: are y'all doing? Like I want to say, I was
Speaker 2: second in the league and picks one year and I
Speaker 2: wasn't on there. I was like, okay, this cap yeah, fact, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's big facts. But how you how you feeling? I
Speaker 2: see you got engaged.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, I'm feeling good.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: At the crib. That's how to step outside. She make
Speaker 4: us a fool right now. So she holding it down
Speaker 4: for me. She still cooking on her last month or
Speaker 4: so of baby girls, So I mean she really need
Speaker 4: to be sitting down because who knows when the baby
Speaker 4: gonna come at this point.
Speaker 3: But now I'm blessed man. Just got a new crib.
Speaker 4: I mean, family coming along well, I mean healthy doing
Speaker 4: my thing camp. So God well and everything's going well
Speaker 4: and continue to go well.
Speaker 2: I'm happy to hear that. Man, that's the best part
Speaker 2: of life you got because you got a little one.
Speaker 2: You got a little girl already, this second little girl.
Speaker 2: So you straight girl, dad, Yeah, that big girl, dad. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then training camp they letting y'all come home because
Speaker 2: you vets.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, I this is my first year, so
Speaker 4: being on year five, they said five and the buck
Speaker 4: get to go home.
Speaker 3: So hey, yeah, I'm in that big boy boat. Now
Speaker 3: I'm enjoying.
Speaker 4: Coming home to the crib, even for a few hours
Speaker 4: obvious sleep by ten thirty eleven at the latest.
Speaker 3: So I mean, I mean, I'm enjoying.
Speaker 2: It right right. You got to take care of the
Speaker 2: pregnant wife. You gotta make sure she good with her
Speaker 2: feet a little bit.
Speaker 3: Hey, you know, your time, but her time, that's it.
Speaker 2: So how you feel it? You know, last year was
Speaker 2: kind of chaotic. Obviously it was your best season, second
Speaker 2: team off pro. You played at a really high level,
Speaker 2: But in terms of that building, that seemed to be
Speaker 2: a lot of chaos, especially when Alan Williams kind of
Speaker 2: resigned out of nowhere. Then Hebert Flutes took over the
Speaker 2: play calls, and like, what was it like in the
Speaker 2: building at that time?
Speaker 4: Honestly, man, it was a lot of up and downs
Speaker 4: because I felt like, of course, coming off that year
Speaker 4: we went three or fourteen, it was tough, so I
Speaker 4: think kind of just coming of course we had a
Speaker 4: TJ tremain, we added a few more pieces on defense.
Speaker 4: So going into the year, I felt like it it
Speaker 4: was kind of hopeful, and then a lot of things
Speaker 4: kind of just started trend in the wrong direction for us,
Speaker 4: so it kind of it was tough.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 4: I mean, we had a streak I think of almost
Speaker 4: like seventeen games straight of losing or something like that,
Speaker 4: So I mean for us it was well. For me,
Speaker 4: I know, it was hard just going through, of course
Speaker 4: a different regime and then not having the success and
Speaker 4: then losing and losing again, like you said, having Alla
Speaker 4: Williams stepped down, and then kind of not knowing where
Speaker 4: things were want to go from there. So I mean,
Speaker 4: for me, it was honestly a lot of uncertainty. Man,
Speaker 4: I'm on my contract. Yeah, I'm like, man, I'm trying
Speaker 4: to find somewhere to be stable.
Speaker 3: And and then it's like, no, I'm not feeling a whole
Speaker 3: lot of stability.
Speaker 4: So I mean, really just going through all that, and
Speaker 4: of course you start kind of hearing the talks of
Speaker 4: if we're going to have the head coach a game
Speaker 4: for the third year, kind of just all of those
Speaker 4: things start to kind of creep into your mind and
Speaker 4: then I think for me, honestly, it was just like man,
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, my table is my resume.
Speaker 4: I just got to continue to go out here and
Speaker 4: who at the end of the day. So, I mean,
Speaker 4: for me it was it was up and down. But
Speaker 4: at the end of their business is business, and I
Speaker 4: know for me, I had to handle my best way
Speaker 4: I could and things started turning around for us for
Speaker 4: the good. So I mean, things worked out well, but
Speaker 4: it definitely did start out really shaky and didn't really
Speaker 4: know how the future was gonna look.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that that's what it seemed like. I was.
Speaker 2: It's always unfortunate because when you're in a contract year
Speaker 2: you out there, you want to play good football and
Speaker 2: be part of a good defense. And you know y'all
Speaker 2: had some pieces, but you know, your d line needed
Speaker 2: a little bit of help, and I think they found
Speaker 2: some help. You know, you needed some help offense league
Speaker 2: because they weren't necessarily doing what they needed to do,
Speaker 2: but you still were abrashan and get your money. They
Speaker 2: franchised tagged you, I know, you know when that happened.
Speaker 2: They happened to a couple of corners and everybody was uncertain.
Speaker 3: It was like you sneed.
Speaker 2: I was like, damn it just really not paying the
Speaker 2: corners this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, fact.
Speaker 2: And then they got it figured out. So was there
Speaker 2: any ever a time in there they called you and
Speaker 2: we're like, hey, you know, we might trade you. I
Speaker 2: talk to your agent or your agent was like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, they're talking to teams and trying to figure
Speaker 2: it out.
Speaker 4: Honestly, not that I know of, at least not that
Speaker 4: they told my agent. I know, even when I did
Speaker 4: ask for a trade right at that trade deadline, I
Speaker 4: know it was again kind of going back to what
Speaker 4: we were talking about earlier, just kind of trying to
Speaker 4: find a steady home.
Speaker 3: Things weren't going good. So I'm like, man, at end
Speaker 3: of the day, I'm trying to go find.
Speaker 4: Somewhere to get paid one and then also to go
Speaker 4: have a chance to win. But I feel like they
Speaker 4: knew what they were doing, and they they declined the
Speaker 4: first one, except that the second one and then gave
Speaker 4: me an opportunity to go see something. But at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, it was one situations where they
Speaker 4: weren't going to no, but no other team was going
Speaker 4: to give up all that just for for for a corner.
Speaker 4: That's something you can do for a cornerback first rounds
Speaker 4: and all that. So, I mean they made it, they
Speaker 4: made it tough, but it ended up working out. But
Speaker 4: I think too, when they got to the off season,
Speaker 4: there was definitely no trade involved. I thought he was
Speaker 4: very open and transparent that I wasn't gonna be No,
Speaker 4: I wasn't going nowhere. They weren't gonna trade me or
Speaker 4: deal me anywhere, And if they had to use the
Speaker 4: tag twice, then of course that was what would have
Speaker 4: been done. But there was Yeah, I didn't think I
Speaker 4: was ever gonna go anywhere. After I'd say, they didn't
Speaker 4: trade me at the deadline?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean your homegrown talent, you know. Yeah, any
Speaker 2: good organization you got to keep your homegrown talent, especially
Speaker 2: the ones that develop into Pro Bowl All Pro players.
Speaker 2: If you letting them go, then what's the what's.
Speaker 3: The Yeah, shut it all down.
Speaker 2: Just shut it down. But y'all, you got some new
Speaker 2: teammates this off season. Obviously, Caleb came in with all
Speaker 2: the expectations and k ran you into that that gauntlet
Speaker 2: of an interview and he gave you all that headache,
Speaker 2: but you got Keenan, you got wrong, and then you
Speaker 2: already had DJ tell me because Keenan. Now, for those
Speaker 2: who will play corner and those who don't deal with
Speaker 2: the Keenans and the Davante's and the dusk ball ones
Speaker 2: of the world, understand, he got some stuff back.
Speaker 3: So something different, something completely different.
Speaker 2: So how has it been? You know, I know you've
Speaker 2: gone against him, but being teammates with him and getting
Speaker 2: to see his work ethic day in and day out,
Speaker 2: and just kind of teammate and player he is.
Speaker 4: Honestly, it's crazy because you see his personality when just
Speaker 4: like throughout the league. Of course you score touchdowns and
Speaker 4: do his little dance, but he actually cool, like a
Speaker 4: cool guy. Like, yeah, I know he's a little older.
Speaker 4: I think he's like thirty two on pushing thirty three.
Speaker 4: I think, so, I mean kind of just for him
Speaker 4: to be that I'm not evenna say that old, but
Speaker 4: in football years, for him to be a old head,
Speaker 4: he's definitely still young.
Speaker 3: He has a young, young soul.
Speaker 4: He can go out there and talk to the rookies,
Speaker 4: or he can talk with the ogs and the bets.
Speaker 3: He's been around. You can talk to him about anything
Speaker 3: every day.
Speaker 4: He has a good, fun, loud personality, so I mean
Speaker 4: definitely makes him be in locker room a lot easier
Speaker 4: because it's not like he's.
Speaker 3: Just on the old head that come in, put his
Speaker 3: head down and leave.
Speaker 4: Like now he's gonna crack some Joe's, talk to some guys,
Speaker 4: play some card games, whatever whatever it is. He's definitely
Speaker 4: an open guy. But as far as competing, I mean,
Speaker 4: I love competing against him. I mean when, of course
Speaker 4: we got all those guys for me, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 4: they ain't gonna come in here and work like naw,
Speaker 4: this ain't gonna be just the offensive show just for me,
Speaker 4: especially like I always love Keenan games, so it's like
Speaker 4: when we when he came, I'm like, oh no, hey,
Speaker 4: I need to Hey, I'm trying to lock him up
Speaker 4: and so like. So I mean, for me, that was
Speaker 4: always like my mentality. But it's one of those things
Speaker 4: that we can definitely have that competition, but we can
Speaker 4: also still talk and still be cool. But it's definitely
Speaker 4: nothing but competition with a guy like that. I feel
Speaker 4: like he's somebody who can come in here and really
Speaker 4: make you better as a corner for me, that's not
Speaker 4: somebody his style of games than somebody that you see often.
Speaker 4: So I think being able to get the difference in DJ,
Speaker 4: the big catch guy, the after catch type of guy,
Speaker 4: then you have Keenan, a more savvy route runner.
Speaker 3: You kind of get you kind of get it all
Speaker 3: with him and DJ and.
Speaker 4: Then learning coming in bringing him young fresh legs into
Speaker 4: the feel like it's definitely something that you definitely gonna
Speaker 4: have to get better.
Speaker 3: And for me, I've tooken the challenge on.
Speaker 4: I mean, I was trying to go out there and
Speaker 4: go as long as I can without giving him a
Speaker 4: catching one on one. So I mean, I'm just trying
Speaker 4: to find ways to push myself and to push.
Speaker 3: Them as well.
Speaker 2: I mean, y'all got a really good secondary and and
Speaker 2: y'all have had it for a couple of years. Brisker
Speaker 2: is gonna be a good player. Young Kyler got a
Speaker 2: chance to get to know him and watch him when
Speaker 2: he was at U DUBH. He's gonna be a really
Speaker 2: good player. Y'all got the d line kind of roaring.
Speaker 2: Eric Washington's in the fold, and I know he's bringing
Speaker 2: line to the Buffalo scheme to y'all the quarter stuff.
Speaker 2: How has that transition been for you as a corner,
Speaker 2: because I know y'all ran a little bit of cover too.
Speaker 2: I've seen you make quite a few plays. This guy's
Speaker 2: cover two, jumping down, coming out the flag, going to
Speaker 2: the seventh. Has it been much of an adjustment for
Speaker 2: you just getting to learn the new playbook or have
Speaker 2: they just kind of like kept the playbook and tightened
Speaker 2: it up a little bit and maybe sprinkle a little
Speaker 2: new stuff in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's good exact. They're really just sprinkling the
Speaker 4: new some new things in. I know even last year.
Speaker 4: It's funny, the one the pick that you talk about,
Speaker 4: we were really in poems. So you, I promise you,
Speaker 4: because look look look look hear.
Speaker 3: Me, hear me, hear me.
Speaker 4: I seen him for Mason, So on my head, I'm like,
Speaker 4: I know I'm to the field.
Speaker 3: He sees me off.
Speaker 4: He probably gonna try to bang this fire yard in,
Speaker 4: but I already knew it was a fire yard and
Speaker 4: they wanted seven behind it, So I'm like, okay, so
Speaker 4: I'm kind of seeing it and I'm in my ham
Speaker 4: and no, I'm gonna make a play. I don't like
Speaker 4: just catching that little pass and tackling it. So I'm like,
Speaker 4: if he throws this short round, I'm gonna drive it.
Speaker 4: So sure enough he called it for me. Look I
Speaker 4: took off boom. I seen him pumps. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 4: I gotta get out of there and help get that.
Speaker 4: So I got I stuck my foot in the ground.
Speaker 2: Got out there. He threw it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I got it. I took it. With
Speaker 3: everybody like seeing it, it was oh yeah, cover too great,
Speaker 3: high law. I'm like, nah, I was being greedy and
Speaker 3: I got yeah. No, I was trying.
Speaker 4: I was trying to make a play for so but
Speaker 4: it definitely worked out. But really just for for this,
Speaker 4: for this this year, and what we're doing is really
Speaker 4: a lot of the same things we did last year.
Speaker 4: Conda is trying to bring it all together, like you said,
Speaker 4: with the Cover two, the Cover three that we were
Speaker 4: heavy on at first and now and bringing in some
Speaker 4: quarters and ponds, different things, trying to give different looks.
Speaker 3: Things like that. I feel like it'll be really good
Speaker 3: for us.
Speaker 4: And then of course adding that pressure up front and
Speaker 4: combining with the different coverages and looks on the back end,
Speaker 4: I feel like, well, we can be really dangerous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean bringing in Montest Sweat was big. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't think people give him credit for how good
Speaker 2: he is and how consistent he's been the last I
Speaker 2: mean four or five years, he's been really really owning,
Speaker 2: really one of the best players. But what about Rome,
Speaker 2: Rome was looking I can't I couldn't get a good
Speaker 2: feel for him when he was at UW, even though
Speaker 2: we watched a lot of their games. But you know,
Speaker 2: playing corner receivers that big, you can't tell if they
Speaker 2: really got wiggle like that because you know, not everybody
Speaker 2: pressed them, and some of the dudes pressed ain't really
Speaker 2: like that. And that's a but what So, what do
Speaker 2: you think of his game? Initially? Obviously he gonna have
Speaker 2: room to grow. He may grow into something totally different
Speaker 2: from what he is, but just as a rookie coming in.
Speaker 4: Now, I think just overall, I feel like he has
Speaker 4: a very a very solid game, a very smooth game
Speaker 4: just going out. I think for me, the biggest thing
Speaker 4: that he he'll learn.
Speaker 3: And that he is learning, is being.
Speaker 4: Able to be crafty in some of those routes, especially
Speaker 4: going against more savvy vent that guys that kind of
Speaker 4: can put some things together that can look at formations,
Speaker 4: that can look at field position where you're at and
Speaker 4: release it. You're kinda have to add a little flavor
Speaker 4: to it, and I feel he'll learn that. He'll get that,
Speaker 4: especially having Keen in the same room. He'll definitely give him,
Speaker 4: give him some of those tools. But I thought he's
Speaker 4: definitely an athletic guy, a good contested catch guy.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 4: He can go up there and make some really good
Speaker 4: contested catches. So I think overall, I feel like the
Speaker 4: ceiling is very, very high for him. I feel like
Speaker 4: he has everything physically, is just again adding that savviness
Speaker 4: to IQ to some of his routes that I think
Speaker 4: it will take him really to the next level.
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Speaker 2: having Keenan in there and even DJ for for for
Speaker 2: a young kid is going to be I mean it's
Speaker 2: gonna be an outstanding and I mean having all of
Speaker 2: them for for KLYP is going to be. I mean,
Speaker 2: who can ask? I said, no doubt, how's it doing hard?
Speaker 2: Notots because I prayed we never got on that. I
Speaker 2: was playing like it got the cameras in the building
Speaker 2: all the time. You can't really say what you want
Speaker 2: to say. You can't just be yourself all the time.
Speaker 2: Has that been kind of annoying or has it been
Speaker 2: kind of like because some people use it to elevate
Speaker 2: their brand and elevate their platform into you know, last
Speaker 2: year everybody was talking about a Rod and what he
Speaker 2: was doing throughout the year, and it may you know,
Speaker 2: I think it changed some people's opinion about it, But
Speaker 2: how has it been for you?
Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't I don't really mind it.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I felt like because a lot of guys like
Speaker 4: you miked up and all j I can't talk to you.
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, at the end of the day, this
Speaker 3: is what like to me.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be who I am, like everybody should be
Speaker 4: be themselves. And of course there's a level of certain
Speaker 4: things we can can't talk about, but I fly for
Speaker 4: the most part, I feel like about ninety percent of
Speaker 4: things is all is all good. I mean, at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, I feel like it's all about
Speaker 4: giving people the insight, like the inside scoop of what
Speaker 4: it's like being in the NFL, what it's like being
Speaker 4: in the training camp. Probably depending on what time of
Speaker 4: the year you got the hard knocks. But I probly
Speaker 4: for the most part, I'm myself, like if I miked
Speaker 4: up or I don't care, like they're gonna to see
Speaker 4: see me for what it is, se the situation for
Speaker 4: what it is in our quarters, the professional side of it.
Speaker 4: You gotta protect certain conversations and certain things like that.
Speaker 3: But I mean, for me, it doesn't it doesn't bother me.
Speaker 3: I know some people in that, but now Mike will
Speaker 3: start kind of creeping up around over the top.
Speaker 4: People start kind of freezing up, not wanting to talk
Speaker 4: and do things like that, and I'm like, hey, man,
Speaker 4: they won't. They want the content, they want to see this.
Speaker 4: I mean, we just got to get the people what
Speaker 4: they want. It's no different than showing up on Sunday.
Speaker 4: Don't nobody tighten up?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 3: Now we got to go out here and se who
Speaker 3: you are right now.
Speaker 2: You got the right idea. They put that mic on me.
Speaker 2: I did not care. I let everybody know. Look, I
Speaker 2: got the mic on me, but I'm about to go
Speaker 2: out here and do what I always always do, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Well you got you got paid. There's some some momentum
Speaker 2: in y'all team, some some optimism obviously with the young
Speaker 2: new young quarterbacks, some offensive weapons, defensive firepower. Obviously y'all
Speaker 2: were the number one scoring defense in the second half
Speaker 2: of the season. Once Montes sweat out there like that
Speaker 2: had to give you guys some confidence of hey, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, we can't put it together when
Speaker 2: we need to and when everything's going away we have.
Speaker 2: So what are your expectations for your team and your
Speaker 2: defense coming into the season. Because I've been part of
Speaker 2: some really good defenses and it just sometimes it's just
Speaker 2: holding each other to the standard every day and not
Speaker 2: really getting caught up on like hey man, you know
Speaker 2: we're chasing these dudes, so we're trying to be better
Speaker 2: than them, or we're trying to it's just really stacking
Speaker 2: your days and really one day at a time, hold
Speaker 2: each other accountable with respect. Like you can't really go
Speaker 2: out there and be like, man, you suck man, what
Speaker 2: are you doing out there?
Speaker 3: Because that yeah, you can't like that.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: I think really for me, the biggest thing is improving
Speaker 4: on our finish. I mean, I find for us we
Speaker 4: had a few games I know I can speak to
Speaker 4: Detroit and Cleveland we were up winning and then lost
Speaker 4: the game in the fourth quarter, lost the game coming
Speaker 4: down to those last couple of minutes to Whereas like
Speaker 4: for us, that puts us in a in a different position.
Speaker 4: I fight, just the bigger thing for defense finishing two
Speaker 4: minute drills, finishing just that fourth quarter. I think for
Speaker 4: us it really just starts with the preparation. I feel
Speaker 4: like we can't it really top to bottom. I fight,
Speaker 4: we can't let up off the gas. When you know
Speaker 4: you start getting in that two minute mode, you kind
Speaker 4: of just start playing back like naw, we gotta still
Speaker 4: continue to be aggressive and really well we well, I
Speaker 4: like to say it slip people's throats, like now we
Speaker 4: can't just come out here and okay, yeah and then
Speaker 4: just think we're gonna stop right now.
Speaker 3: They still trying to win the game, like we gotta
Speaker 3: start that right now.
Speaker 4: And I feel like for me and what I like
Speaker 4: to do is I'm always getting extra work out the practice.
Speaker 4: So for me, that's part of like my finishing where
Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, I finished practice. I gotta finish my work,
Speaker 4: so I know when it is in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 4: I still have that dog mentality of like, nah, I'm
Speaker 4: locking this fool up, no matter if it's two minutes,
Speaker 4: four minute, whatever it may be, if they down ten,
Speaker 4: if they down three. Like now, at end of the day,
Speaker 4: I'm still in that mode to finish, and I fight
Speaker 4: for me. I'm trying to push guys, get guys to
Speaker 4: understand like, nah, we we have a great team, but hey,
Speaker 4: it's still gonna be a situation when we gotta finish
Speaker 4: guys off. It's not just gonna be handed tools. We
Speaker 4: got to go out there and take it against a
Speaker 4: man's will. So I fight for us. That's really but
Speaker 4: I feel like we can improve on and if we
Speaker 4: can do that, I know we'll we'll win a lot
Speaker 4: more games for sure. Who you bringing with you as
Speaker 4: far as well.
Speaker 2: I heard you say I'm getting some work out of
Speaker 2: the practice, but you're by yourself.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, no, I'm not by myself. I
Speaker 3: put like that.
Speaker 4: I tell him, Hey, I got plenty of work for God,
Speaker 4: if you want to take it. He I don't got
Speaker 4: no hit him. He's no taxes, no, none of that.
Speaker 4: If you want to come out here and get some work,
Speaker 4: I'm here. It's offer to everybody. So I mean, right
Speaker 4: now I got I got two rookies and then I
Speaker 4: got another guy who just came from the CFL. They're
Speaker 4: the most consistent ones right now. I know Takwan, he's
Speaker 4: working out with me every day. Before he kind of
Speaker 4: got into some injury things, so I know when he
Speaker 4: gets back he'll be back with me. But right now,
Speaker 4: now everybody knows, like, hey, Jalen is here after practice
Speaker 4: getting work.
Speaker 3: It's up to them.
Speaker 4: So I mean, I can only bring those around who
Speaker 4: want to be around.
Speaker 2: What this will be my two cents again, Your man
Speaker 2: Dood who used to be something in our group, we
Speaker 2: everybody gotta go. Everybody is back there or nobody's back
Speaker 2: there because because in the fourth quarter, like you said,
Speaker 2: everything you say it is facts and big facts. That's
Speaker 2: winning football. When if you got to be ready fourth
Speaker 2: quarter game on line, everybody's hired. But if only Jalen
Speaker 2: Johnson's ready and everybody else ain't ready, we still loose.
Speaker 2: And so what we found out is no matter how
Speaker 2: strong one of us is, if all of us ain't
Speaker 2: that strong, we still loose. And so we if we're
Speaker 2: gonna do extra work, we gonna do it like it
Speaker 2: ain't really an option. That's the standard. You guys to
Speaker 2: do that because you challenge them with their own ambition,
Speaker 2: or do you want to win? Is championship what we
Speaker 2: want to do? Or we just want to be in
Speaker 2: the NFL like we want to be the best defensive
Speaker 2: football or we just want to be some guys out
Speaker 2: there that play in the NFL like and a lot
Speaker 2: of the guys got that kind of pride and say, man,
Speaker 2: I don't want to be the best, then make your
Speaker 2: actions match words, brother like, because I ain't gonna cut
Speaker 2: you out. I can't make you do nothing, and I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to run you into the ground because I
Speaker 2: know we're in trading camp. But if we talking technique
Speaker 2: as a corner, you can always get better. I don't
Speaker 2: give dang how good you are at your press. You
Speaker 2: can always get two more reps, three more reps, get
Speaker 2: your eyeplacement, get the receiver. Give me three releases real quick,
Speaker 2: like you can always get better. And those few reps
Speaker 2: when you tired, when your legs, when you everything's sweating,
Speaker 2: like those are when you need it. Lock in real quick.
Speaker 2: Give me too of your best go out there, get keenan, hey,
Speaker 2: keen it, come on. I know it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 2: Give me, just give me two, three of them, and
Speaker 2: I guarantee you won't say no, because that's not how
Speaker 2: like winners, that's not how you got here by saying
Speaker 2: no to work and so to be that kind of leader.
Speaker 2: Leaders lead by bringing everybody along. It's not usually you
Speaker 2: don't even lead from the front. You lead from the back.
Speaker 2: If you got to run laps and the time of
Speaker 2: the last person is the one that hey man, everybody
Speaker 2: got to come in by three thirty, and that last
Speaker 2: person's been coming in at three thirty three, then you
Speaker 2: go behind, and you make sure you're coming in at
Speaker 2: three thirty because you can come in first, ain't have
Speaker 2: to run another one because he came in last.
Speaker 3: Feel what I'm saying, No, no, that I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: It's all love. It's all love. I can't I can't
Speaker 2: wait to hear why you wanted to play corner?
Speaker 3: Geez? Why did I want to play? Honestly, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: I didn't even start off really playing corner like I know,
Speaker 4: of course, I alway said, nah, probably corner. I started off,
Speaker 4: of course, with all league running back. I thought I
Speaker 4: was Reggie Bush, play linebacker like I wanted to be
Speaker 4: an action like my dad. Like my dad grew my
Speaker 4: older brother to play corner from Dye beauty Boy, like
Speaker 4: eight years old. My brother played corner all the way
Speaker 4: ver until he couldn't play football no more. So even
Speaker 4: for me, I'm like, nah, I want to be an action.
Speaker 4: I want to be an action. And then as I
Speaker 4: got older, people started getting a little bigger.
Speaker 3: I'm like, nah, I ain't nobody playing a running back
Speaker 3: no more. HiT's a little different.
Speaker 4: So I kind of slowly started working my way outside
Speaker 4: play a little receiver. And I still that's why I
Speaker 4: started playing corner safety kind of learning boat.
Speaker 3: Then I got to high school play corner.
Speaker 4: My freshman ye or sophomore year, I played corner, but
Speaker 4: I sat behind two D one guys, so I was
Speaker 4: behind them.
Speaker 3: Play more receiver.
Speaker 4: So I really didn't get a lot of like touches
Speaker 4: that until really my junior year of high school.
Speaker 3: So I played. My junior year was solid decent.
Speaker 4: And then really I started working with my brother, work
Speaker 4: with my dad really getting heavy because I was two
Speaker 4: sport athletes too.
Speaker 3: I played football, basketball, So I.
Speaker 4: Never really honed in like on my craft truly, but
Speaker 4: really my junior was my junior year hit That's what
Speaker 4: I really started honing in on it. And I was
Speaker 4: like I always listened to the conversation my dad and
Speaker 4: my brother had and I knew a lot, Like I
Speaker 4: was really like smart. I was able to retain the information,
Speaker 4: but I never had the opportunity to apply it. So
Speaker 4: when I started really playing it, I started really applying in.
Speaker 4: And I know, we was at the seven on seven
Speaker 4: practice one time, and my dad and my brother like
Speaker 4: they're big on work, so like if they don't see
Speaker 4: you from the work, they're like, nah, it ain't like
Speaker 4: it ain't it. So I was doing my little thing
Speaker 4: on the side. And so we was at seven on
Speaker 4: seven prior. They was trying to give every look, every route,
Speaker 4: and I was just defending locking it up, locking it up,
Speaker 4: locking it up. And at first it was like all
Speaker 4: this luck is luck. They kept trying challenging me. I
Speaker 4: kept doing it boom, and it was okay, you might
Speaker 4: be somebody. So we went to seven or seven tournament,
Speaker 4: ended up locking up some four or five star guys.
Speaker 3: My brother was with me talking trash to him. So
Speaker 3: really from there it was just.
Speaker 4: One of those things that's like, nah, I can really
Speaker 4: be somebody in this and it's not just be something
Speaker 4: that was forced throw me that I was born into.
Speaker 4: But it's like, nah, I really took that and took
Speaker 4: the extreme prize. So I mean, really, ever since my
Speaker 4: junior year, I've been fully committed to.
Speaker 3: Being out on the island lock as people up.
Speaker 2: So what did your brother ever get into the leg
Speaker 2: or he just played college or how far did to go? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Nah, he played at UCLA, He played at UCLA, finishes
Speaker 4: last year at Present State.
Speaker 3: Really it was crazy, I till we bought time. He
Speaker 3: was he was. He was better than me, like.
Speaker 4: Physically, feed footwork, dog pressed off like he had it all.
Speaker 4: He was four star, went to UCLA, but he had
Speaker 4: we all kind of had the same thing. We had
Speaker 4: them shoulder issues. So he went to shoulders first year
Speaker 4: for shoulder his second year. So it's like by the
Speaker 4: time you get healthier third year, they already brought two
Speaker 4: classes of moore and five star guys around, so it's
Speaker 4: like he was still in the mix, still getting in there, rotating,
Speaker 4: kind of got into it.
Speaker 3: A little bit with the coach on some things.
Speaker 4: Played a few games and it's like, okay, going on
Speaker 4: all fourth year, I only played in six seven games.
Speaker 3: They still bringing in four and five star dudes. So
Speaker 3: it's like after a.
Speaker 4: While he kind of just was like, hey, I already
Speaker 4: know kind of how this is shaping out, Like they're
Speaker 4: not about to keep messing with me all Like they
Speaker 4: got all they guys they bringing in.
Speaker 3: So he just ended up getting a degree.
Speaker 4: Finishing his last year at Pheland State went there, kind
Speaker 4: of got into the same cultural situation where it's like
Speaker 4: you coming from where you're coming from, trying to play
Speaker 4: a certain style of ball.
Speaker 3: They got their coach already.
Speaker 4: Then it's like you to turn to when was the
Speaker 4: last time you had some recent tape, because I mean
Speaker 4: the tape he did have a damn good tape, but
Speaker 4: it's like that.
Speaker 3: Was two years ago.
Speaker 4: So it's like he didn't really have a chance in
Speaker 4: him being five to nine.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's not that's not idea and in today's game.
Speaker 4: So yeah, nah, So he didn't end up getting a
Speaker 4: shot and he wasn't like a CF trying to force
Speaker 4: it and do nothing like that. So that's really after
Speaker 4: that that that's really when he turned into my trainer.
Speaker 4: Of course, he was still active in playing, so I
Speaker 4: moved him out to Utah with me, got an internship
Speaker 4: at Utah, and that ship we've been training. He's been
Speaker 4: a trainer, He trained dbs, He trains kids from four
Speaker 4: or five years old to whoever else. So yeah, uh,
Speaker 4: well we're from Cali, but he lives with me in
Speaker 4: the off season in season, so I mean he's he's
Speaker 4: always with me and has his clientele like in Chicago.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so he got his clients out in Chicago.
Speaker 4: Coach a little seven on or tackle football team.
Speaker 2: So he's what's his training thing? God, we can give
Speaker 2: him a shot out real quick.
Speaker 4: Oh it's called elite athletic transformation.
Speaker 2: Hey. Hey, if you're in Chicago and you need some
Speaker 2: corner work, elite athletic transformations where you need.
Speaker 3: To be at no doubt.
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it, man, I love it.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be. That's pretty cool though, because I got
Speaker 2: a good relation. How many years different?
Speaker 3: Fo? He's four years older?
Speaker 2: Okay, mine is three? And boy, yeah he right there.
Speaker 2: Because they just paid the world for you, and then
Speaker 2: you come in behind me, you like I do better
Speaker 2: than what they did, and I'm good.
Speaker 3: That's it. You better stay healthy. I'll be good.
Speaker 2: I'll be good. I got the you appreciate your brother
Speaker 2: from putting the blueprint out there.
Speaker 3: I take it from here, no doubt.
Speaker 2: So are there any games you got circle, because I
Speaker 2: know you ain't scared to say what your feet to
Speaker 2: say on your schedule this year? Y'all got some good matchups,
Speaker 2: but anything in particular.
Speaker 3: I got a few.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not I don't know exactly when we
Speaker 4: play them all, but I'm looking forward to going against
Speaker 4: Calvin Ridley again. I haven't won again went up against
Speaker 4: him since my rookie year, so him of course, d
Speaker 4: hop hopefully he gets back healthy. So looking forward to
Speaker 4: going against that tandem and then show I know that
Speaker 4: next week we got some boys down in Houston, Diggs, Tank,
Speaker 4: Nico Collins, I'm looking forward to that. Who else we got?
Speaker 4: Who else we got? Of course Justin? I missed Justin
Speaker 4: for the last I think two years now. I was
Speaker 4: either heard he was hurt, So looking forward to going
Speaker 4: against him. Who else we got?
Speaker 3: Who else? That's different. I really just say those because
Speaker 3: ain't nobody jumped out at me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, of course Alm and Rad is always
Speaker 4: in the division and things like that, But I probably
Speaker 4: for the most part, I'm looking forward to to those.
Speaker 3: Oh, Sam France, that's.
Speaker 4: The game I'm looking forward to, not necessarily the matchup individually.
Speaker 4: Hopefully Brandon Ayuka is there, not then they I'm missing
Speaker 4: out on that one. But really other than that DK
Speaker 4: that you got to have on I haven't.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen him in my career, So looking forward
Speaker 3: to those ones. For sure.
Speaker 2: You got him at the end of the season too,
Speaker 2: we'll be we got that game.
Speaker 3: Uh think were in Chicago? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's Thursday night, baby,
Speaker 3: We'll be there. Oh yeah, I would say, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: sell you out there.
Speaker 2: I'll be there. Uh that's cool. So who is who
Speaker 2: is your best? Who the best quarters in the National
Speaker 2: Football League right now outside of you?
Speaker 4: And we're just saying, are we asking my style or
Speaker 4: are we talking just like overall everyone your world. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna get I'm gonna get my style. I like because
Speaker 4: I feel like it's hard to I don't know. Everybody
Speaker 4: judges it different.
Speaker 3: Everybody can judge it by interceptions or whatever. But for me,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna if I had to put.
Speaker 4: These four guys on an island, I would probably say
Speaker 4: I'll go with Pat no in no order, I probably
Speaker 4: go Pat Denzel.
Speaker 3: Stars. Oh and I can't give myself for who else?
Speaker 3: Would I go?
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, we just gonna assume you on the list.
Speaker 2: But we need five.
Speaker 3: Right right right right right Ireland, Ireland, Ireland.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and help and put some names
Speaker 2: out there. You gotta give some names playing at a
Speaker 2: real high level. Uh, who am I messing right now?
Speaker 2: Because he was just Steve Sneak killed in the playoffs
Speaker 2: last year. McDuffie killed in the playoffs last year. Here
Speaker 2: our various players at a high level. When he was going,
Speaker 2: he had a nice over run of four or five
Speaker 2: games where he had a book in each of those games. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know out in Seattle to reak. You know, they
Speaker 2: got the young young nickel that that's played at the
Speaker 2: high level. You got the big the whole big dog
Speaker 2: gay years, you got the slaves, you got, you got
Speaker 2: out out in Miami, Marsa. It's whatever you whatever you want.
Speaker 3: Oh that's uh mm hmm.
Speaker 2: That's tough because because Pat Patt is gonna be in
Speaker 2: that conversation all the time. Obviously, you played at high level,
Speaker 2: you get to be in that conversation all the time.
Speaker 2: Year when he's healthy, he's as good as they get.
Speaker 2: Marshawn just kind of been overshadowed because they haven't been
Speaker 2: very good as a team. H Denzel never really gets
Speaker 2: that much credit.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, I'll love I love Yeah No.
Speaker 4: I took some time to watch to watch those three
Speaker 4: so that thought. It was really hard for me because
Speaker 4: I just took I know, my off season. I was
Speaker 4: watching Path, I was watching Sauce, especially like Sauce.
Speaker 3: You hear a lot like you hear some people. Oh
Speaker 3: he's old rady. You hear some people say it's really good.
Speaker 4: I'm like, not damn that, I need to go watch
Speaker 4: my felt I'm like, nah, young boy guy, he got
Speaker 4: some things to him for sure. And and to me,
Speaker 4: it's like people are saying, oh he holds if he
Speaker 4: don't get called for it, he's not holding like then.
Speaker 3: Like damn, oh he does this, but he doesn't get caught.
Speaker 3: That's part. That's part of it. Pushed off all yeah,
Speaker 3: like hey, they pushed off. Nobody said, oh well he
Speaker 3: pushed off, Like nah, nobody, nobody cares. So I think
Speaker 3: for me, he usually what he got.
Speaker 4: I felt like it's really hard to give them or
Speaker 4: it's really hard to give them for I fight.
Speaker 3: The playing styles changed after that.
Speaker 4: I feel like I love I love watching Snead and McDuffie.
Speaker 4: I think it's hard. I feel like it's really hard
Speaker 4: to tell when they them boys get a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3: They get a lot Yeah yeah, but I said they
Speaker 3: get out of pressure. But I definitely love love their games.
Speaker 2: If I had to give you one, but I will
Speaker 2: say this, in fact, sisten them boys in man.
Speaker 3: All day, all the time. They pressed pressed up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no they not.
Speaker 3: They not ducking no smoke for sure.
Speaker 2: What he did to wreaking that playoff game, people was like,
Speaker 2: oh man, that's crazy. I said, no, he practiced against
Speaker 2: him all the time. He has no fear. Used to
Speaker 2: I ain't got no fear. What what other corners that
Speaker 2: you when you came in or when you were at
Speaker 2: Utah that you were looking at You were like, man,
Speaker 2: I'm a model of my game after that, because you
Speaker 2: when you were coming up it was it was probably
Speaker 2: lead in there. Uh. Jalen was pretty much in his prime.
Speaker 4: Marshawan was young, but he was eating his first few
Speaker 4: years in the league.
Speaker 3: Slave was killing got modeled. Yeah, I was about to
Speaker 3: say I watched. I would say between Jalen Slade, Marshawan, Ja.
Speaker 2: Stepan Stepan right, I think you want there?
Speaker 3: Yes? No, no, no, for sure Gilmore for sure.
Speaker 4: Oh, I would probably say yeah. I honestly said those fires.
Speaker 4: I would say those five for sure coming in and
Speaker 4: out of college. Because again, I feel like you watch
Speaker 4: to me like I love Jaalen Ramsey's game as far.
Speaker 3: As like how he goes like I just love like
Speaker 3: his dog mentime.
Speaker 4: I feel like it's something like I cann't watch him
Speaker 4: necessarily and like, oh, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Go do that, Like nah, he just does. He just
Speaker 3: has some things that God gave him that he.
Speaker 2: Got everybody else.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he skipped everybody else. So now, but it's
Speaker 4: like looking at him, he gives you like when you
Speaker 4: watch him, it's like, nah, I gotta really be a dog.
Speaker 4: So I feel like I've always loved like his mentality.
Speaker 4: Of course, his ball skills going up and making those
Speaker 4: spectacular players, and just really his energy and energy.
Speaker 3: I feel he's very, very contagious.
Speaker 4: I feel like more so watching Gilmore, he's like Q
Speaker 4: Technie was always something that definitely stood out stood out
Speaker 4: to me, and that's something that I that I like as.
Speaker 3: Far as guy's being able to you shadow you take him.
Speaker 4: Like I'm not I'm not impressed by like the interception,
Speaker 4: I'm impressed by it, but you can put him on
Speaker 4: him and that guy's eliminated out the game. That's what
Speaker 4: That's what moves me more so than anything. So I
Speaker 4: love that about him. Even Marshaan, I know he was
Speaker 4: doing that at an early age. I think you want
Speaker 4: he was a Player of the Year for this rookie
Speaker 4: year hunh. Yeah, yeah, he came in doing this thing,
Speaker 4: who has always been a dog. I remember watching him
Speaker 4: early and just watching his tape and all the trash
Speaker 4: he was talking, making plays antics, and I'm like, nah,
Speaker 4: he kinda he's.
Speaker 3: Small, little man, gonna go out there and do it,
Speaker 3: get it, He's gonna fight. So I definitely love always.
Speaker 4: Watching DB's Man, I gave a lot of respect to
Speaker 4: guys that played this position at a high level, that
Speaker 4: go out there and and compete, because I mean, for me,
Speaker 4: it's like you'll see you turn on the tape and
Speaker 4: you'll watch certain guys he's.
Speaker 3: Like, man, ain't no pride in that, Like that ain't
Speaker 3: no what he's doing.
Speaker 2: It's certain people I couldn't even watch on tape. Like
Speaker 2: if I'm I'm trying to judge a receiver, I'm about
Speaker 2: to pay somebody if they played certain teams, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: even want to they tape because I'm like, that's not
Speaker 2: even gonna help me. That's not what.
Speaker 3: I can't get a good I can't get a good assessment.
Speaker 2: I can't get a good assessment watching this dude. Look
Speaker 2: he gave you two fifty, Like.
Speaker 3: What do you want to definitely definitely, uh who.
Speaker 2: What was your welcome to the NFL moment, like who
Speaker 2: blessed you? Because because my second year it was this
Speaker 2: receiver Stevie Johnson and nobody really know about it or
Speaker 2: nasty that boy in a phone booth you ain't touching
Speaker 2: it four seven four six, but in a phone booth
Speaker 2: your hands?
Speaker 3: Yeah, wiggle? Are I blessed me? That? I really in
Speaker 3: the path I FL? I really held my own.
Speaker 4: Of course I ran over one tonight right right right
Speaker 4: right the year, but I probably as far as the past,
Speaker 4: I probably one dude who always gave me problems. I know,
Speaker 4: like me and Davante was like compet. I wouldn't say
Speaker 4: he blessed me. I would I win myn he win
Speaker 4: win his, But I would probably say I struggled with
Speaker 4: Mike Evans my first my first year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I know I struggled with him for sure.
Speaker 3: Everybody else. I feel like it was.
Speaker 4: Kind of like was silent, Like I wouldn't say that,
Speaker 4: like I had trouble, but Mike like he was someingm
Speaker 4: God like he doesn't do nothing special, it's not nothing
Speaker 4: that you don't know that he's gonna do, but it's
Speaker 4: like God damn.
Speaker 3: Then he got Tom Brady, especially when when I've seen
Speaker 3: him he.
Speaker 4: Had Tom Brady throwing. So I'm like, hey, I can
Speaker 4: I'm right here. He's big, running down the field, all strong,
Speaker 4: make it test and catches.
Speaker 2: I'm like, he ain't no different, he ain't no joke.
Speaker 2: Look in his hands. He way bigger and stronger than
Speaker 2: you ever.
Speaker 3: Think he is, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2: He was one of the ones to be me and
Speaker 2: meet him and me and be Marshall. I had a
Speaker 2: couple of battles, so I was like God.
Speaker 4: With dinosaurs back, I would say, long lever cats. They
Speaker 4: ain't got no wiggle.
Speaker 2: They just all strong, all strong, hit you, grab you
Speaker 2: right here.
Speaker 3: A couple I made sure I back my linement up
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 2: Smart man, you.
Speaker 3: Can't get it up there, and then they want that.
Speaker 2: Smart man was. I ain't gonna take up too much
Speaker 2: more of your time. If you got any questions from me,
Speaker 2: anything you want to ask, I'm happy to answer. Other
Speaker 2: than that, I'll let you. Let you get back to
Speaker 2: your old lady, your fiance and your family.
Speaker 3: No, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: You you well, I don't I know my answer, but
Speaker 4: you first, you first ballot.
Speaker 2: You think I hope. So you know, I don't want
Speaker 2: to jink. You don't want to jinxy, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: There ain't no we gotta put it out there.
Speaker 2: Look, you put it out there and it don't happen.
Speaker 2: It's out there for yeah. Yeah, Look the rest of
Speaker 2: it I had could roll over, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like when I want to call them all that stuff,
Speaker 3: but I'm not.
Speaker 2: I hope. So I think I did enough. You know,
Speaker 2: I went to three Super Bowls, got enough all pros
Speaker 2: and all that, you know, played on enough great defenses,
Speaker 2: went somewhere else and we had a great defense and
Speaker 2: went to another Bowl. So you know, I think during
Speaker 2: my time, I think I would say I was the
Speaker 2: best one that playing. But you know, everybody got their opinion.
Speaker 2: So I hope hopefully the voters think that. And you know,
Speaker 2: get me in. That would mean a lot to me,
Speaker 2: you know, to get that jacket, and and you know
Speaker 2: all your hard work, everything you dreamed about as a
Speaker 2: little kid comes true. You know, that's the that's the
Speaker 2: cool part. But that's what I'm saying about your teammates,
Speaker 2: Like if you really want to shine, you bring them
Speaker 2: boys along with you. And you and and they get it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like real competitors, real champions,
Speaker 2: real dudes who really want what they say they want.
Speaker 2: They don't really question it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: If you if you got to pull teeth to get
Speaker 2: a dude to do some extra work or to say hey,
Speaker 2: this is our standard as a dB group and our
Speaker 2: dB room and they want to argue it, then they
Speaker 2: not really what they say they are, and they probably
Speaker 2: gonna get replaced by somebody else. The coaches will see it.
Speaker 2: The table show all that, but most dudes ain't built
Speaker 2: like they didn't make it to the league by being
Speaker 2: like that. So you might have an off day where
Speaker 2: I'm tired or my hamstring herd and the sword, that's different.
Speaker 2: But if you say, hey, in this dB room, this
Speaker 2: is our standard. This is what we're doing with working
Speaker 2: every day after practice. I don't care if it's just
Speaker 2: catching a few balls on the jugs or getting a
Speaker 2: few releases. Like we go out there, we do not
Speaker 2: do the minimum, and dudes be like, no, man, I'm
Speaker 2: going home. You you ain't gonna be what you say
Speaker 2: you want to be. You ain't never gonna get there.
Speaker 2: So I would say, I would say that was the
Speaker 2: biggest thing about the Legion of Boom and our group,
Speaker 2: that that that helped elevate us and elevate the guys
Speaker 2: around us and elevate all of us. Is that that
Speaker 2: was the standard, and it was the standard, and nobody
Speaker 2: ever questioned it, nobody saying nothing. You know what I mean, like, hey,
Speaker 2: go get your extra work and let's go home. We're
Speaker 2: gonna do a lap around the field. We're gonna do this.
Speaker 2: Get your get your teen press coverage reps, or your
Speaker 2: your your safety reps, your eye reps, your quarterback throwing
Speaker 2: your all whatever, and let's get on out of here.
Speaker 2: But the standard is the standard. Nobody's gonna argue with.
Speaker 3: That, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 4: My last one for you, and I know how smart
Speaker 4: and intelligent you were, of course.
Speaker 3: Off the field, but I know on the field it
Speaker 3: was different.
Speaker 4: I feel like I ain't seen too many guys in
Speaker 4: the National Football League run somebody's round before they ran it.
Speaker 4: So I think for me, just always seeing them, he
Speaker 4: knows something. I feel like, how did how did you
Speaker 4: get to that point? Like how did you Because like
Speaker 4: for me, like I can watch film, I get to
Speaker 4: a point where like good. I'm good like right recognition,
Speaker 4: so I can kind of see, okay, three point one
Speaker 4: onto the field based on certain splits.
Speaker 3: I can expect certain things.
Speaker 4: But how I guess for my question to you is
Speaker 4: how did you get to that point to where it
Speaker 4: was at the level of which it was as far
Speaker 4: as your IQ, you seeing certain things, you calling things
Speaker 4: out before it even happens.
Speaker 3: Was that kind of studying? Was that? Do you think
Speaker 3: you just kind of have a certain type of memory
Speaker 3: or something like? How it was at that level it was?
Speaker 2: It was a little bit of everything. I played receiver
Speaker 2: for a long time in college, and so I learned
Speaker 2: West Coast offense under Bill Walsh and under Hofball and
Speaker 2: all of them. So I understand what the offense trying
Speaker 2: to do from their their their route combinations, like their philosophy,
Speaker 2: and a lot of the combinations like a flat two
Speaker 2: to the flat means one coming in or one on
Speaker 2: the curral and one on the slant, depending on if
Speaker 2: it's quick game or not. Two running the over route
Speaker 2: means one coming in. It's either dig or post, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So certain combinations are married with
Speaker 2: other things, and so I practiced that way. I practice
Speaker 2: situational football. That's all I do when I'm watching tape,
Speaker 2: when I'm watching our own offense, if I'm in training camp,
Speaker 2: I'm breaking down, Hey, are max protect deep developing routes?
Speaker 2: What are our offense like?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Okay, they got they got a tidy end end and
Speaker 2: a great digger and a running back staying in max protect,
Speaker 2: all right, so they running deep developing routes. What's their
Speaker 2: favorite routes? Okay, they like double dig post are they
Speaker 2: like come back with a middle read or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: And once you learn those things, then let the split
Speaker 2: speak to you. Let the situation. Hey, it's third and five.
Speaker 2: What are they like on third and five?
Speaker 3: Again?
Speaker 2: Like, okay, in the bunch, they like spot where it's
Speaker 2: the six to seven the flat and it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: they always do it out of emotion. So as I
Speaker 2: see that emotion, all right, Now, what I want to know, Hey,
Speaker 2: alert this, Alert this. If I see two, If I
Speaker 2: see three, go to the flat, I know I didn't increase,
Speaker 2: And now I just want to know which one I'm
Speaker 2: trying to bait him into throwing. Hey, you see the
Speaker 2: safety down, So he understands his three. He thinks he
Speaker 2: has the flat. So if I take away the flat,
Speaker 2: I know he takes the seven. So can I hold
Speaker 2: the flat long enough to go get the seven? Like
Speaker 2: you did in that poem's rep and you did what
Speaker 2: something I would do, but you did it subconsciously. You
Speaker 2: just did a reactionary, which was really cool. But so
Speaker 2: a lot of it is just understanding the concepts and
Speaker 2: our routes are married, like certain routes go with other
Speaker 2: routes always, and so they can't really run the concept
Speaker 2: without running the second part of it. So now I
Speaker 2: got to just know where my eyes are supposed to be. Hey,
Speaker 2: my zone two on this play my zone one, because
Speaker 2: I don't have any indicator over there with two on
Speaker 2: backside of a three by one, and it's third and
Speaker 2: five and I'm with Davonte, and you know it's it's
Speaker 2: up from there, you know what I mean? We can
Speaker 2: get anyway from there. But a lot of times it
Speaker 2: was just me understanding their concepts, understanding the situation we
Speaker 2: were in, and not letting the fatigue and the craziness
Speaker 2: of a game get me out of my game plan.
Speaker 3: No doubt, no doubt. Well, I thought, that's my that's
Speaker 3: my biggest thing.
Speaker 4: I feel like it is understanding it from an offensive
Speaker 4: perspective because I feel like, for me, I I can
Speaker 4: see it. I'm like, I'm really good at, like you said,
Speaker 4: flits for mation situations. Okay, when they want to do
Speaker 4: certain things, especially like when I see too, like a
Speaker 4: coverage that I can see two two will tell me.
Speaker 3: All I need to know about one like I don't.
Speaker 4: And a lot of times like I'll tell like she
Speaker 4: was asking, how you know all that I said, I
Speaker 4: see number two like too told me what you was
Speaker 4: what you was gonna do. So ops is my favorite
Speaker 4: unless you just did something completely off script and hey
Speaker 4: I got a rally to that, but right, yeah, he
Speaker 4: in fact, I just got to chalk that up and
Speaker 4: play a little true. But for the most part, I
Speaker 4: think for me, it's okay, how does the offense see
Speaker 4: what we're doing and see what I'm doing. I'm like,
Speaker 4: that's the biggest thing that I want to get to
Speaker 4: tow us.
Speaker 3: Like when I do know what they're doing.
Speaker 4: I can still see how he's seeing, how the quarterback
Speaker 4: seeing how the o c seeing it. I think that's
Speaker 4: something I want to take to that next level kind
Speaker 4: of start thinking and I I don't know who they hell,
Speaker 4: I need to talk to I need You.
Speaker 2: Can talk to some of them quarterbacks, you can talk
Speaker 2: to your old ce. Like a lot of the football
Speaker 2: minds ain't trying to keep secrets, especially if guys on
Speaker 2: their team. They might you know, it's training camp, so
Speaker 2: they might, Oh, we ain't helping you, got it. But
Speaker 2: during the season they want you to succeed. So you're like, hey, hey,
Speaker 2: could I could I watch a little takee with you?
Speaker 2: I just want to understand offense a little better so
Speaker 2: I can play better When we playing Cover two, they
Speaker 2: got an answer for it when they playing Cover three.
Speaker 2: When they're doing that, all of that and they and
Speaker 2: you need to know what they think it and why
Speaker 2: is they answer? So where the ball should be coming
Speaker 2: so we be in the game. And that's why people
Speaker 2: always say, y'all ran in Cover three and like, oh,
Speaker 2: it was so simple. It was so simple because we
Speaker 2: knew what they were gonna do, and so we knew
Speaker 2: where the answers were all the time.
Speaker 3: Hyah, ever got a weakness.
Speaker 2: They got a weakness. Communicate with the rest of your
Speaker 2: dudes too, because that helps you, Like when they know
Speaker 2: what you know and everybody knows the same thing.
Speaker 3: Together.
Speaker 2: We can be together and you can dictate where the
Speaker 2: ball goes. You can say, hey, hey, we got cover two.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be it's a three by one, but it's
Speaker 2: enough side. They running a seven on the back side
Speaker 2: and they running special. All goes special coming from the
Speaker 2: three by one side. Hey, we ain't cover three. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna I'm I'm gonna pass this tight end because
Speaker 2: I don't want my linebacker running with fee at three three.
Speaker 2: I need my buzzer to drop a little deeper, Hey,
Speaker 2: buzz deeper so he can come off that seven. We're
Speaker 2: gonna make him throw the flat route to the running
Speaker 2: back to the tight end side. But we ain't gonna
Speaker 2: let him get that special with him running. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and so stuff like that. We would. We were just
Speaker 2: talking through Hey, Hey, hey Bobby, Bobby, Hey, I got him,
Speaker 2: Hey kJ hey drop Hey, I need you deeper. We
Speaker 2: don't rally. We're gonna rally to the to the flat
Speaker 2: and we do boo rally to.
Speaker 3: The flatt take it down.
Speaker 2: And we got he got. He got a choice or
Speaker 2: he could throw me the ball.
Speaker 3: You know, he don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: They don't want to do that. But you know, at
Speaker 2: times they got they got. But but that's where leadership
Speaker 2: and camaraderie and chemistry comes together because you start to
Speaker 2: to help other guys do their job. Well you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, don't keep secrets out there. It
Speaker 2: ain't no point.
Speaker 3: I won't try to know what I know, no doubt,
Speaker 3: no doubt. I appreciate it for show.
Speaker 2: All love, all love. All right, Better get in there
Speaker 2: and go.
Speaker 3: Take care of that old lady, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you, but God must respect.
Speaker 2: Much respect and love. I'll see you at the end
Speaker 2: of the season when we got your game, no doubt.
Speaker 3: I beaver fart
Speaker 2: The volume