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Welcome back to the 33 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: Richard Sherman Podcast. We got a special guest PFF's highest 34 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: rated corner last year, Jalen Johnson. 35 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 4: How you doing, brother, I'm good getting called a big 36 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 4: dog from a big dog. 37 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: I like it. 38 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: Hey, you out there putting it on tape. I can't. 39 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: You got to get credits words too, even though they 40 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: didn't on the top one hundred. I said, come on. 41 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 3: Now, that's all good. I appreciate it. 42 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got a lot of respect for me, 43 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: and I'm sure you get a lot of respect from 44 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 2: your peers, even though the top one hundred, it gets 45 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: skept it sometimes because it was a couple of times 46 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: I wasn't on there where I was like, man, what 47 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: are y'all doing? Like I want to say, I was 48 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: second in the league and picks one year and I 49 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: wasn't on there. I was like, okay, this cap yeah, fact, yeah, 50 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: it's big facts. But how you how you feeling? I 51 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 2: see you got engaged. 52 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, I'm feeling good. 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 2: Man. 54 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 4: At the crib. That's how to step outside. She make 55 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 4: us a fool right now. So she holding it down 56 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 4: for me. She still cooking on her last month or 57 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 4: so of baby girls, So I mean she really need 58 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 4: to be sitting down because who knows when the baby 59 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 4: gonna come at this point. 60 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: But now I'm blessed man. Just got a new crib. 61 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 4: I mean, family coming along well, I mean healthy doing 62 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 4: my thing camp. So God well and everything's going well 63 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 4: and continue to go well. 64 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: I'm happy to hear that. Man, that's the best part 65 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: of life you got because you got a little one. 66 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: You got a little girl already, this second little girl. 67 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: So you straight girl, dad, Yeah, that big girl, dad. Yeah. Yeah, 68 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: and then training camp they letting y'all come home because 69 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: you vets. 70 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, I this is my first year, so 71 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 4: being on year five, they said five and the buck 72 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 4: get to go home. 73 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: So hey, yeah, I'm in that big boy boat. Now 74 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: I'm enjoying. 75 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: Coming home to the crib, even for a few hours 76 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 4: obvious sleep by ten thirty eleven at the latest. 77 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: So I mean, I mean, I'm enjoying. 78 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: It right right. You got to take care of the 79 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: pregnant wife. You gotta make sure she good with her 80 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: feet a little bit. 81 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: Hey, you know, your time, but her time, that's it. 82 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: So how you feel it? You know, last year was 83 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: kind of chaotic. Obviously it was your best season, second 84 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: team off pro. You played at a really high level, 85 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: But in terms of that building, that seemed to be 86 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: a lot of chaos, especially when Alan Williams kind of 87 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: resigned out of nowhere. Then Hebert Flutes took over the 88 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: play calls, and like, what was it like in the 89 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: building at that time? 90 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 4: Honestly, man, it was a lot of up and downs 91 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 4: because I felt like, of course, coming off that year 92 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 4: we went three or fourteen, it was tough, so I 93 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 4: think kind of just coming of course we had a 94 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 4: TJ tremain, we added a few more pieces on defense. 95 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 4: So going into the year, I felt like it it 96 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 4: was kind of hopeful, and then a lot of things 97 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 4: kind of just started trend in the wrong direction for us, 98 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 4: so it kind of it was tough. 99 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: Again. 100 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 4: I mean, we had a streak I think of almost 101 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 4: like seventeen games straight of losing or something like that, 102 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 4: So I mean for us it was well. For me, 103 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 4: I know, it was hard just going through, of course 104 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 4: a different regime and then not having the success and 105 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 4: then losing and losing again, like you said, having Alla 106 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 4: Williams stepped down, and then kind of not knowing where 107 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: things were want to go from there. So I mean, 108 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 4: for me, it was honestly a lot of uncertainty. Man, 109 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 4: I'm on my contract. Yeah, I'm like, man, I'm trying 110 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 4: to find somewhere to be stable. 111 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: And and then it's like, no, I'm not feeling a whole 112 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 3: lot of stability. 113 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 4: So I mean, really just going through all that, and 114 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 4: of course you start kind of hearing the talks of 115 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 4: if we're going to have the head coach a game 116 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 4: for the third year, kind of just all of those 117 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 4: things start to kind of creep into your mind and 118 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 4: then I think for me, honestly, it was just like man, 119 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, my table is my resume. 120 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 4: I just got to continue to go out here and 121 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 4: who at the end of the day. So, I mean, 122 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: for me it was it was up and down. But 123 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 4: at the end of their business is business, and I 124 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 4: know for me, I had to handle my best way 125 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 4: I could and things started turning around for us for 126 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 4: the good. So I mean, things worked out well, but 127 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 4: it definitely did start out really shaky and didn't really 128 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 4: know how the future was gonna look. 129 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that that's what it seemed like. I was. 130 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 2: It's always unfortunate because when you're in a contract year 131 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 2: you out there, you want to play good football and 132 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 2: be part of a good defense. And you know y'all 133 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: had some pieces, but you know, your d line needed 134 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: a little bit of help, and I think they found 135 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: some help. You know, you needed some help offense league 136 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 2: because they weren't necessarily doing what they needed to do, 137 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: but you still were abrashan and get your money. They 138 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 2: franchised tagged you, I know, you know when that happened. 139 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 2: They happened to a couple of corners and everybody was uncertain. 140 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: It was like you sneed. 141 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: I was like, damn it just really not paying the 142 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 2: corners this year. 143 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, fact. 144 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: And then they got it figured out. So was there 145 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: any ever a time in there they called you and 146 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 2: we're like, hey, you know, we might trade you. I 147 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: talk to your agent or your agent was like, well, 148 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 2: you know, they're talking to teams and trying to figure 149 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: it out. 150 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 4: Honestly, not that I know of, at least not that 151 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 4: they told my agent. I know, even when I did 152 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 4: ask for a trade right at that trade deadline, I 153 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 4: know it was again kind of going back to what 154 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 4: we were talking about earlier, just kind of trying to 155 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: find a steady home. 156 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: Things weren't going good. So I'm like, man, at end 157 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: of the day, I'm trying to go find. 158 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 4: Somewhere to get paid one and then also to go 159 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 4: have a chance to win. But I feel like they 160 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 4: knew what they were doing, and they they declined the 161 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 4: first one, except that the second one and then gave 162 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 4: me an opportunity to go see something. But at the 163 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 4: end of the day, it was one situations where they 164 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: weren't going to no, but no other team was going 165 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 4: to give up all that just for for for a corner. 166 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 4: That's something you can do for a cornerback first rounds 167 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 4: and all that. So, I mean they made it, they 168 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 4: made it tough, but it ended up working out. But 169 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 4: I think too, when they got to the off season, 170 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 4: there was definitely no trade involved. I thought he was 171 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 4: very open and transparent that I wasn't gonna be No, 172 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 4: I wasn't going nowhere. They weren't gonna trade me or 173 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: deal me anywhere, And if they had to use the 174 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 4: tag twice, then of course that was what would have 175 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 4: been done. But there was Yeah, I didn't think I 176 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: was ever gonna go anywhere. After I'd say, they didn't 177 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 4: trade me at the deadline? 178 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean your homegrown talent, you know. Yeah, any 179 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: good organization you got to keep your homegrown talent, especially 180 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: the ones that develop into Pro Bowl All Pro players. 181 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: If you letting them go, then what's the what's. 182 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: The Yeah, shut it all down. 183 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: Just shut it down. But y'all, you got some new 184 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: teammates this off season. Obviously, Caleb came in with all 185 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: the expectations and k ran you into that that gauntlet 186 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: of an interview and he gave you all that headache, 187 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: but you got Keenan, you got wrong, and then you 188 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: already had DJ tell me because Keenan. Now, for those 189 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: who will play corner and those who don't deal with 190 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: the Keenans and the Davante's and the dusk ball ones 191 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: of the world, understand, he got some stuff back. 192 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: So something different, something completely different. 193 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: So how has it been? You know, I know you've 194 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: gone against him, but being teammates with him and getting 195 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: to see his work ethic day in and day out, 196 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: and just kind of teammate and player he is. 197 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 4: Honestly, it's crazy because you see his personality when just 198 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: like throughout the league. Of course you score touchdowns and 199 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 4: do his little dance, but he actually cool, like a 200 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 4: cool guy. Like, yeah, I know he's a little older. 201 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 4: I think he's like thirty two on pushing thirty three. 202 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 4: I think, so, I mean kind of just for him 203 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 4: to be that I'm not evenna say that old, but 204 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 4: in football years, for him to be a old head, 205 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 4: he's definitely still young. 206 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: He has a young, young soul. 207 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 4: He can go out there and talk to the rookies, 208 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 4: or he can talk with the ogs and the bets. 209 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 3: He's been around. You can talk to him about anything 210 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: every day. 211 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 4: He has a good, fun, loud personality, so I mean 212 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 4: definitely makes him be in locker room a lot easier 213 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 4: because it's not like he's. 214 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 3: Just on the old head that come in, put his 215 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: head down and leave. 216 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 4: Like now he's gonna crack some Joe's, talk to some guys, 217 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 4: play some card games, whatever whatever it is. He's definitely 218 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 4: an open guy. But as far as competing, I mean, 219 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 4: I love competing against him. I mean when, of course 220 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 4: we got all those guys for me, I'm like, hey, 221 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 4: they ain't gonna come in here and work like naw, 222 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 4: this ain't gonna be just the offensive show just for me, 223 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: especially like I always love Keenan games, so it's like 224 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 4: when we when he came, I'm like, oh no, hey, 225 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 4: I need to Hey, I'm trying to lock him up 226 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: and so like. So I mean, for me, that was 227 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 4: always like my mentality. But it's one of those things 228 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 4: that we can definitely have that competition, but we can 229 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 4: also still talk and still be cool. But it's definitely 230 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 4: nothing but competition with a guy like that. I feel 231 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 4: like he's somebody who can come in here and really 232 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: make you better as a corner for me, that's not 233 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 4: somebody his style of games than somebody that you see often. 234 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 4: So I think being able to get the difference in DJ, 235 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 4: the big catch guy, the after catch type of guy, 236 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 4: then you have Keenan, a more savvy route runner. 237 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: You kind of get you kind of get it all 238 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 3: with him and DJ and. 239 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 4: Then learning coming in bringing him young fresh legs into 240 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 4: the feel like it's definitely something that you definitely gonna 241 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: have to get better. 242 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: And for me, I've tooken the challenge on. 243 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 4: I mean, I was trying to go out there and 244 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 4: go as long as I can without giving him a 245 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 4: catching one on one. So I mean, I'm just trying 246 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 4: to find ways to push myself and to push. 247 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: Them as well. 248 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: I mean, y'all got a really good secondary and and 249 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: y'all have had it for a couple of years. Brisker 250 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: is gonna be a good player. Young Kyler got a 251 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: chance to get to know him and watch him when 252 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: he was at U DUBH. He's gonna be a really 253 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: good player. Y'all got the d line kind of roaring. 254 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: Eric Washington's in the fold, and I know he's bringing 255 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: line to the Buffalo scheme to y'all the quarter stuff. 256 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: How has that transition been for you as a corner, 257 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: because I know y'all ran a little bit of cover too. 258 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: I've seen you make quite a few plays. This guy's 259 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: cover two, jumping down, coming out the flag, going to 260 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: the seventh. Has it been much of an adjustment for 261 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: you just getting to learn the new playbook or have 262 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: they just kind of like kept the playbook and tightened 263 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: it up a little bit and maybe sprinkle a little 264 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: new stuff in. 265 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's good exact. They're really just sprinkling the 266 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 4: new some new things in. I know even last year. 267 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 4: It's funny, the one the pick that you talk about, 268 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 4: we were really in poems. So you, I promise you, 269 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 4: because look look look look hear. 270 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: Me, hear me, hear me. 271 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 4: I seen him for Mason, So on my head, I'm like, 272 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 4: I know I'm to the field. 273 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 3: He sees me off. 274 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 4: He probably gonna try to bang this fire yard in, 275 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 4: but I already knew it was a fire yard and 276 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 4: they wanted seven behind it, So I'm like, okay, so 277 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 4: I'm kind of seeing it and I'm in my ham 278 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 4: and no, I'm gonna make a play. I don't like 279 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: just catching that little pass and tackling it. So I'm like, 280 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 4: if he throws this short round, I'm gonna drive it. 281 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 4: So sure enough he called it for me. Look I 282 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 4: took off boom. I seen him pumps. I'm like, damn, 283 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 4: I gotta get out of there and help get that. 284 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 4: So I got I stuck my foot in the ground. 285 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: Got out there. He threw it. 286 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I got it. I took it. With 287 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 3: everybody like seeing it, it was oh yeah, cover too great, 288 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 3: high law. I'm like, nah, I was being greedy and 289 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 3: I got yeah. No, I was trying. 290 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 4: I was trying to make a play for so but 291 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 4: it definitely worked out. But really just for for this, 292 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 4: for this this year, and what we're doing is really 293 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 4: a lot of the same things we did last year. 294 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 4: Conda is trying to bring it all together, like you said, 295 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 4: with the Cover two, the Cover three that we were 296 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 4: heavy on at first and now and bringing in some 297 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 4: quarters and ponds, different things, trying to give different looks. 298 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: Things like that. I feel like it'll be really good 299 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: for us. 300 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 4: And then of course adding that pressure up front and 301 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 4: combining with the different coverages and looks on the back end, 302 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 4: I feel like, well, we can be really dangerous. 303 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean bringing in Montest Sweat was big. You know, 304 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: I don't think people give him credit for how good 305 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: he is and how consistent he's been the last I 306 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: mean four or five years, he's been really really owning, 307 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: really one of the best players. But what about Rome, 308 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: Rome was looking I can't I couldn't get a good 309 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: feel for him when he was at UW, even though 310 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: we watched a lot of their games. But you know, 311 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: playing corner receivers that big, you can't tell if they 312 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: really got wiggle like that because you know, not everybody 313 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: pressed them, and some of the dudes pressed ain't really 314 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: like that. And that's a but what So, what do 315 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: you think of his game? Initially? Obviously he gonna have 316 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: room to grow. He may grow into something totally different 317 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: from what he is, but just as a rookie coming in. 318 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 4: Now, I think just overall, I feel like he has 319 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 4: a very a very solid game, a very smooth game 320 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 4: just going out. I think for me, the biggest thing 321 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 4: that he he'll learn. 322 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 3: And that he is learning, is being. 323 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: Able to be crafty in some of those routes, especially 324 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 4: going against more savvy vent that guys that kind of 325 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,119 Speaker 4: can put some things together that can look at formations, 326 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: that can look at field position where you're at and 327 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 4: release it. You're kinda have to add a little flavor 328 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 4: to it, and I feel he'll learn that. He'll get that, 329 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 4: especially having Keen in the same room. He'll definitely give him, 330 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 4: give him some of those tools. But I thought he's 331 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 4: definitely an athletic guy, a good contested catch guy. 332 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: For sure. 333 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 4: He can go up there and make some really good 334 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 4: contested catches. So I think overall, I feel like the 335 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 4: ceiling is very, very high for him. I feel like 336 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 4: he has everything physically, is just again adding that savviness 337 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 4: to IQ to some of his routes that I think 338 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 4: it will take him really to the next level. 339 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 2: Game Time is an authorized ticket marketplace of Major League Baseball, 340 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: which may thanks getting tickets easier and faster. 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I think, I think, I mean, 351 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: having Keenan in there and even DJ for for for 352 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: a young kid is going to be I mean it's 353 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: gonna be an outstanding and I mean having all of 354 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: them for for KLYP is going to be. I mean, 355 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: who can ask? I said, no doubt, how's it doing hard? 356 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: Notots because I prayed we never got on that. I 357 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: was playing like it got the cameras in the building 358 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: all the time. You can't really say what you want 359 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: to say. You can't just be yourself all the time. 360 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: Has that been kind of annoying or has it been 361 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: kind of like because some people use it to elevate 362 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: their brand and elevate their platform into you know, last 363 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: year everybody was talking about a Rod and what he 364 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: was doing throughout the year, and it may you know, 365 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: I think it changed some people's opinion about it, But 366 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: how has it been for you? 367 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't I don't really mind it. 368 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 4: Honestly, I felt like because a lot of guys like 369 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 4: you miked up and all j I can't talk to you. 370 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, man, at the end of the day, this 371 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: is what like to me. 372 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be who I am, like everybody should be 373 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 4: be themselves. And of course there's a level of certain 374 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: things we can can't talk about, but I fly for 375 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 4: the most part, I feel like about ninety percent of 376 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 4: things is all is all good. I mean, at the 377 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 4: end of the day, I feel like it's all about 378 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 4: giving people the insight, like the inside scoop of what 379 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 4: it's like being in the NFL, what it's like being 380 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 4: in the training camp. Probably depending on what time of 381 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 4: the year you got the hard knocks. But I probly 382 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 4: for the most part, I'm myself, like if I miked 383 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: up or I don't care, like they're gonna to see 384 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 4: see me for what it is, se the situation for 385 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 4: what it is in our quarters, the professional side of it. 386 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: You gotta protect certain conversations and certain things like that. 387 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: But I mean, for me, it doesn't it doesn't bother me. 388 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: I know some people in that, but now Mike will 389 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 3: start kind of creeping up around over the top. 390 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 4: People start kind of freezing up, not wanting to talk 391 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 4: and do things like that, and I'm like, hey, man, 392 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 4: they won't. They want the content, they want to see this. 393 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 4: I mean, we just got to get the people what 394 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 4: they want. It's no different than showing up on Sunday. 395 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 4: Don't nobody tighten up? 396 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: Then? 397 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: Now we got to go out here and se who 398 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 3: you are right now. 399 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: You got the right idea. They put that mic on me. 400 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: I did not care. I let everybody know. Look, I 401 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: got the mic on me, but I'm about to go 402 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: out here and do what I always always do, no doubt. 403 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: Well you got you got paid. There's some some momentum 404 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: in y'all team, some some optimism obviously with the young 405 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: new young quarterbacks, some offensive weapons, defensive firepower. Obviously y'all 406 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: were the number one scoring defense in the second half 407 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: of the season. Once Montes sweat out there like that 408 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: had to give you guys some confidence of hey, you 409 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: know what I mean, we can't put it together when 410 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 2: we need to and when everything's going away we have. 411 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: So what are your expectations for your team and your 412 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: defense coming into the season. Because I've been part of 413 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 2: some really good defenses and it just sometimes it's just 414 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: holding each other to the standard every day and not 415 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: really getting caught up on like hey man, you know 416 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: we're chasing these dudes, so we're trying to be better 417 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: than them, or we're trying to it's just really stacking 418 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: your days and really one day at a time, hold 419 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 2: each other accountable with respect. Like you can't really go 420 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: out there and be like, man, you suck man, what 421 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: are you doing out there? 422 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 3: Because that yeah, you can't like that. 423 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: Now. 424 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 4: I think really for me, the biggest thing is improving 425 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 4: on our finish. I mean, I find for us we 426 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 4: had a few games I know I can speak to 427 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 4: Detroit and Cleveland we were up winning and then lost 428 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: the game in the fourth quarter, lost the game coming 429 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 4: down to those last couple of minutes to Whereas like 430 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 4: for us, that puts us in a in a different position. 431 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 4: I fight, just the bigger thing for defense finishing two 432 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 4: minute drills, finishing just that fourth quarter. I think for 433 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 4: us it really just starts with the preparation. I feel 434 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 4: like we can't it really top to bottom. I fight, 435 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 4: we can't let up off the gas. When you know 436 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 4: you start getting in that two minute mode, you kind 437 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 4: of just start playing back like naw, we gotta still 438 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 4: continue to be aggressive and really well we well, I 439 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 4: like to say it slip people's throats, like now we 440 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 4: can't just come out here and okay, yeah and then 441 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 4: just think we're gonna stop right now. 442 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 3: They still trying to win the game, like we gotta 443 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:27,479 Speaker 3: start that right now. 444 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 4: And I feel like for me and what I like 445 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 4: to do is I'm always getting extra work out the practice. 446 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 4: So for me, that's part of like my finishing where 447 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, I finished practice. I gotta finish my work, 448 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 4: so I know when it is in the fourth quarter, 449 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 4: I still have that dog mentality of like, nah, I'm 450 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 4: locking this fool up, no matter if it's two minutes, 451 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 4: four minute, whatever it may be, if they down ten, 452 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 4: if they down three. Like now, at end of the day, 453 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 4: I'm still in that mode to finish, and I fight 454 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 4: for me. I'm trying to push guys, get guys to 455 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 4: understand like, nah, we we have a great team, but hey, 456 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: it's still gonna be a situation when we gotta finish 457 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 4: guys off. It's not just gonna be handed tools. We 458 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 4: got to go out there and take it against a 459 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 4: man's will. So I fight for us. That's really but 460 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 4: I feel like we can improve on and if we 461 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 4: can do that, I know we'll we'll win a lot 462 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 4: more games for sure. Who you bringing with you as 463 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 4: far as well. 464 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 2: I heard you say I'm getting some work out of 465 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: the practice, but you're by yourself. 466 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, no, I'm not by myself. I 467 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 3: put like that. 468 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 4: I tell him, Hey, I got plenty of work for God, 469 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 4: if you want to take it. He I don't got 470 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 4: no hit him. He's no taxes, no, none of that. 471 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 4: If you want to come out here and get some work, 472 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 4: I'm here. It's offer to everybody. So I mean, right 473 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 4: now I got I got two rookies and then I 474 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 4: got another guy who just came from the CFL. They're 475 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 4: the most consistent ones right now. I know Takwan, he's 476 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 4: working out with me every day. Before he kind of 477 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 4: got into some injury things, so I know when he 478 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 4: gets back he'll be back with me. But right now, 479 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 4: now everybody knows, like, hey, Jalen is here after practice 480 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 4: getting work. 481 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: It's up to them. 482 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 4: So I mean, I can only bring those around who 483 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 4: want to be around. 484 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: What this will be my two cents again, Your man 485 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,479 Speaker 2: Dood who used to be something in our group, we 486 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: everybody gotta go. Everybody is back there or nobody's back 487 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: there because because in the fourth quarter, like you said, 488 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 2: everything you say it is facts and big facts. That's 489 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: winning football. When if you got to be ready fourth 490 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 2: quarter game on line, everybody's hired. But if only Jalen 491 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: Johnson's ready and everybody else ain't ready, we still loose. 492 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: And so what we found out is no matter how 493 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: strong one of us is, if all of us ain't 494 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: that strong, we still loose. And so we if we're 495 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: gonna do extra work, we gonna do it like it 496 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: ain't really an option. That's the standard. You guys to 497 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: do that because you challenge them with their own ambition, 498 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 2: or do you want to win? Is championship what we 499 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: want to do? Or we just want to be in 500 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: the NFL like we want to be the best defensive 501 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 2: football or we just want to be some guys out 502 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: there that play in the NFL like and a lot 503 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: of the guys got that kind of pride and say, man, 504 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 2: I don't want to be the best, then make your 505 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: actions match words, brother like, because I ain't gonna cut 506 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: you out. I can't make you do nothing, and I'm 507 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: not trying to run you into the ground because I 508 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: know we're in trading camp. But if we talking technique 509 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: as a corner, you can always get better. I don't 510 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: give dang how good you are at your press. You 511 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 2: can always get two more reps, three more reps, get 512 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: your eyeplacement, get the receiver. Give me three releases real quick, 513 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: like you can always get better. And those few reps 514 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 2: when you tired, when your legs, when you everything's sweating, 515 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 2: like those are when you need it. Lock in real quick. 516 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: Give me too of your best go out there, get keenan, hey, 517 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: keen it, come on. I know it's gonna be tough. 518 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: Give me, just give me two, three of them, and 519 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: I guarantee you won't say no, because that's not how 520 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: like winners, that's not how you got here by saying 521 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: no to work and so to be that kind of leader. 522 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: Leaders lead by bringing everybody along. It's not usually you 523 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: don't even lead from the front. You lead from the back. 524 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 2: If you got to run laps and the time of 525 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: the last person is the one that hey man, everybody 526 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: got to come in by three thirty, and that last 527 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 2: person's been coming in at three thirty three, then you 528 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 2: go behind, and you make sure you're coming in at 529 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 2: three thirty because you can come in first, ain't have 530 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: to run another one because he came in last. 531 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 3: Feel what I'm saying, No, no, that I appreciate that. 532 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 2: It's all love. It's all love. I can't I can't 533 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: wait to hear why you wanted to play corner? 534 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: Geez? Why did I want to play? Honestly, it's crazy. 535 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 4: I didn't even start off really playing corner like I know, 536 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 4: of course, I alway said, nah, probably corner. I started off, 537 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 4: of course, with all league running back. I thought I 538 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 4: was Reggie Bush, play linebacker like I wanted to be 539 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 4: an action like my dad. Like my dad grew my 540 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 4: older brother to play corner from Dye beauty Boy, like 541 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 4: eight years old. My brother played corner all the way 542 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 4: ver until he couldn't play football no more. So even 543 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 4: for me, I'm like, nah, I want to be an action. 544 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 4: I want to be an action. And then as I 545 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 4: got older, people started getting a little bigger. 546 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 3: I'm like, nah, I ain't nobody playing a running back 547 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 3: no more. HiT's a little different. 548 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 4: So I kind of slowly started working my way outside 549 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 4: play a little receiver. And I still that's why I 550 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 4: started playing corner safety kind of learning boat. 551 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 3: Then I got to high school play corner. 552 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 4: My freshman ye or sophomore year, I played corner, but 553 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 4: I sat behind two D one guys, so I was 554 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 4: behind them. 555 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 3: Play more receiver. 556 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 4: So I really didn't get a lot of like touches 557 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 4: that until really my junior year of high school. 558 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: So I played. My junior year was solid decent. 559 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 4: And then really I started working with my brother, work 560 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 4: with my dad really getting heavy because I was two 561 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 4: sport athletes too. 562 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 3: I played football, basketball, So I. 563 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 4: Never really honed in like on my craft truly, but 564 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 4: really my junior was my junior year hit That's what 565 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 4: I really started honing in on it. And I was 566 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 4: like I always listened to the conversation my dad and 567 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 4: my brother had and I knew a lot, Like I 568 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 4: was really like smart. I was able to retain the information, 569 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 4: but I never had the opportunity to apply it. So 570 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 4: when I started really playing it, I started really applying in. 571 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 4: And I know, we was at the seven on seven 572 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 4: practice one time, and my dad and my brother like 573 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 4: they're big on work, so like if they don't see 574 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 4: you from the work, they're like, nah, it ain't like 575 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 4: it ain't it. So I was doing my little thing 576 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 4: on the side. And so we was at seven on 577 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 4: seven prior. They was trying to give every look, every route, 578 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 4: and I was just defending locking it up, locking it up, 579 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 4: locking it up. And at first it was like all 580 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 4: this luck is luck. They kept trying challenging me. I 581 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 4: kept doing it boom, and it was okay, you might 582 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 4: be somebody. So we went to seven or seven tournament, 583 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 4: ended up locking up some four or five star guys. 584 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 3: My brother was with me talking trash to him. So 585 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 3: really from there it was just. 586 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 4: One of those things that's like, nah, I can really 587 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 4: be somebody in this and it's not just be something 588 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 4: that was forced throw me that I was born into. 589 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 4: But it's like, nah, I really took that and took 590 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 4: the extreme prize. So I mean, really, ever since my 591 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 4: junior year, I've been fully committed to. 592 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 3: Being out on the island lock as people up. 593 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 2: So what did your brother ever get into the leg 594 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: or he just played college or how far did to go? Yeah? 595 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 4: Nah, he played at UCLA, He played at UCLA, finishes 596 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 4: last year at Present State. 597 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 3: Really it was crazy, I till we bought time. He 598 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 3: was he was. He was better than me, like. 599 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 4: Physically, feed footwork, dog pressed off like he had it all. 600 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 4: He was four star, went to UCLA, but he had 601 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 4: we all kind of had the same thing. We had 602 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 4: them shoulder issues. So he went to shoulders first year 603 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 4: for shoulder his second year. So it's like by the 604 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 4: time you get healthier third year, they already brought two 605 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 4: classes of moore and five star guys around, so it's 606 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 4: like he was still in the mix, still getting in there, rotating, 607 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 4: kind of got into it. 608 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 3: A little bit with the coach on some things. 609 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 4: Played a few games and it's like, okay, going on 610 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 4: all fourth year, I only played in six seven games. 611 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: They still bringing in four and five star dudes. So 612 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 3: it's like after a. 613 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 4: While he kind of just was like, hey, I already 614 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 4: know kind of how this is shaping out, Like they're 615 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 4: not about to keep messing with me all Like they 616 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 4: got all they guys they bringing in. 617 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 3: So he just ended up getting a degree. 618 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 4: Finishing his last year at Pheland State went there, kind 619 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 4: of got into the same cultural situation where it's like 620 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 4: you coming from where you're coming from, trying to play 621 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 4: a certain style of ball. 622 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 3: They got their coach already. 623 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 4: Then it's like you to turn to when was the 624 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 4: last time you had some recent tape, because I mean 625 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 4: the tape he did have a damn good tape, but 626 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 4: it's like that. 627 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 3: Was two years ago. 628 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 4: So it's like he didn't really have a chance in 629 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 4: him being five to nine. 630 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: I mean, that's not that's not idea and in today's game. 631 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 4: So yeah, nah, So he didn't end up getting a 632 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 4: shot and he wasn't like a CF trying to force 633 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 4: it and do nothing like that. So that's really after 634 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 4: that that that's really when he turned into my trainer. 635 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 4: Of course, he was still active in playing, so I 636 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 4: moved him out to Utah with me, got an internship 637 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 4: at Utah, and that ship we've been training. He's been 638 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 4: a trainer, He trained dbs, He trains kids from four 639 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 4: or five years old to whoever else. So yeah, uh, 640 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 4: well we're from Cali, but he lives with me in 641 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 4: the off season in season, so I mean he's he's 642 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 4: always with me and has his clientele like in Chicago. 643 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so he got his clients out in Chicago. 644 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 4: Coach a little seven on or tackle football team. 645 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: So he's what's his training thing? God, we can give 646 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: him a shot out real quick. 647 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 4: Oh it's called elite athletic transformation. 648 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 2: Hey. Hey, if you're in Chicago and you need some 649 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: corner work, elite athletic transformations where you need. 650 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 3: To be at no doubt. 651 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,479 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it, man, I love it. 652 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: That's gonna be. That's pretty cool though, because I got 653 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: a good relation. How many years different? 654 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 3: Fo? He's four years older? 655 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: Okay, mine is three? And boy, yeah he right there. 656 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 2: Because they just paid the world for you, and then 657 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: you come in behind me, you like I do better 658 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: than what they did, and I'm good. 659 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 3: That's it. You better stay healthy. I'll be good. 660 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: I'll be good. I got the you appreciate your brother 661 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 2: from putting the blueprint out there. 662 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 3: I take it from here, no doubt. 663 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: So are there any games you got circle, because I 664 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: know you ain't scared to say what your feet to 665 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: say on your schedule this year? Y'all got some good matchups, 666 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: but anything in particular. 667 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 3: I got a few. 668 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not I don't know exactly when we 669 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 4: play them all, but I'm looking forward to going against 670 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 4: Calvin Ridley again. I haven't won again went up against 671 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 4: him since my rookie year, so him of course, d 672 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 4: hop hopefully he gets back healthy. So looking forward to 673 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 4: going against that tandem and then show I know that 674 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 4: next week we got some boys down in Houston, Diggs, Tank, 675 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 4: Nico Collins, I'm looking forward to that. Who else we got? 676 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 4: Who else we got? Of course Justin? I missed Justin 677 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 4: for the last I think two years now. I was 678 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 4: either heard he was hurt, So looking forward to going 679 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 4: against him. Who else we got? 680 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 3: Who else? That's different. I really just say those because 681 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 3: ain't nobody jumped out at me. 682 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, of course Alm and Rad is always 683 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 4: in the division and things like that, But I probably 684 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 4: for the most part, I'm looking forward to to those. 685 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: Oh, Sam France, that's. 686 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 4: The game I'm looking forward to, not necessarily the matchup individually. 687 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 4: Hopefully Brandon Ayuka is there, not then they I'm missing 688 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 4: out on that one. But really other than that DK 689 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 4: that you got to have on I haven't. 690 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 3: I haven't seen him in my career, So looking forward 691 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: to those ones. For sure. 692 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 2: You got him at the end of the season too, 693 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 2: we'll be we got that game. 694 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: Uh think were in Chicago? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's Thursday night, baby, 695 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 3: We'll be there. Oh yeah, I would say, I'm gonna 696 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 3: sell you out there. 697 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: I'll be there. Uh that's cool. So who is who 698 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: is your best? Who the best quarters in the National 699 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 2: Football League right now outside of you? 700 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 4: And we're just saying, are we asking my style or 701 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 4: are we talking just like overall everyone your world. I'm 702 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 4: gonna get I'm gonna get my style. I like because 703 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 4: I feel like it's hard to I don't know. Everybody 704 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 4: judges it different. 705 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 3: Everybody can judge it by interceptions or whatever. But for me, 706 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna if I had to put. 707 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 4: These four guys on an island, I would probably say 708 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 4: I'll go with Pat no in no order, I probably 709 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 4: go Pat Denzel. 710 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 3: Stars. Oh and I can't give myself for who else? 711 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 3: Would I go? 712 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, we just gonna assume you on the list. 713 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: But we need five. 714 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 3: Right right right right right Ireland, Ireland, Ireland. 715 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and help and put some names 716 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: out there. You gotta give some names playing at a 717 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: real high level. Uh, who am I messing right now? 718 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: Because he was just Steve Sneak killed in the playoffs 719 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: last year. McDuffie killed in the playoffs last year. Here 720 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: our various players at a high level. When he was going, 721 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: he had a nice over run of four or five 722 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: games where he had a book in each of those games. Uh, 723 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: you know out in Seattle to reak. You know, they 724 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 2: got the young young nickel that that's played at the 725 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: high level. You got the big the whole big dog 726 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: gay years, you got the slaves, you got, you got 727 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 2: out out in Miami, Marsa. It's whatever you whatever you want. 728 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: Oh that's uh mm hmm. 729 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: That's tough because because Pat Patt is gonna be in 730 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: that conversation all the time. Obviously, you played at high level, 731 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 2: you get to be in that conversation all the time. 732 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: Year when he's healthy, he's as good as they get. 733 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: Marshawn just kind of been overshadowed because they haven't been 734 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: very good as a team. H Denzel never really gets 735 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 2: that much credit. 736 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 3: Yeah no, I'll love I love Yeah No. 737 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 4: I took some time to watch to watch those three 738 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 4: so that thought. It was really hard for me because 739 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 4: I just took I know, my off season. I was 740 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 4: watching Path, I was watching Sauce, especially like Sauce. 741 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,479 Speaker 3: You hear a lot like you hear some people. Oh 742 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 3: he's old rady. You hear some people say it's really good. 743 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, not damn that, I need to go watch 744 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 4: my felt I'm like, nah, young boy guy, he got 745 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 4: some things to him for sure. And and to me, 746 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 4: it's like people are saying, oh he holds if he 747 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 4: don't get called for it, he's not holding like then. 748 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 3: Like damn, oh he does this, but he doesn't get caught. 749 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 3: That's part. That's part of it. Pushed off all yeah, 750 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 3: like hey, they pushed off. Nobody said, oh well he 751 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 3: pushed off, Like nah, nobody, nobody cares. So I think 752 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 3: for me, he usually what he got. 753 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 4: I felt like it's really hard to give them or 754 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 4: it's really hard to give them for I fight. 755 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 3: The playing styles changed after that. 756 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 4: I feel like I love I love watching Snead and McDuffie. 757 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 4: I think it's hard. I feel like it's really hard 758 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 4: to tell when they them boys get a lot of pressure. 759 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 3: They get a lot Yeah yeah, but I said they 760 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: get out of pressure. But I definitely love love their games. 761 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: If I had to give you one, but I will 762 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: say this, in fact, sisten them boys in man. 763 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 3: All day, all the time. They pressed pressed up. 764 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:14,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, no they not. 765 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 3: They not ducking no smoke for sure. 766 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 2: What he did to wreaking that playoff game, people was like, 767 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: oh man, that's crazy. I said, no, he practiced against 768 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: him all the time. He has no fear. Used to 769 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: I ain't got no fear. What what other corners that 770 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 2: you when you came in or when you were at 771 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: Utah that you were looking at You were like, man, 772 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: I'm a model of my game after that, because you 773 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 2: when you were coming up it was it was probably 774 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 2: lead in there. Uh. Jalen was pretty much in his prime. 775 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 4: Marshawan was young, but he was eating his first few 776 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 4: years in the league. 777 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 3: Slave was killing got modeled. Yeah, I was about to 778 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 3: say I watched. I would say between Jalen Slade, Marshawan, Ja. 779 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: Stepan Stepan right, I think you want there? 780 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: Yes? No, no, no, for sure Gilmore for sure. 781 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 4: Oh, I would probably say yeah. I honestly said those fires. 782 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 4: I would say those five for sure coming in and 783 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 4: out of college. Because again, I feel like you watch 784 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 4: to me like I love Jaalen Ramsey's game as far. 785 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 3: As like how he goes like I just love like 786 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 3: his dog mentime. 787 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 4: I feel like it's something like I cann't watch him 788 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 4: necessarily and like, oh, I'm gonna. 789 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 3: Go do that, Like nah, he just does. He just 790 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 3: has some things that God gave him that he. 791 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: Got everybody else. 792 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he skipped everybody else. So now, but it's 793 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 4: like looking at him, he gives you like when you 794 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 4: watch him, it's like, nah, I gotta really be a dog. 795 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 4: So I feel like I've always loved like his mentality. 796 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 4: Of course, his ball skills going up and making those 797 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 4: spectacular players, and just really his energy and energy. 798 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 3: I feel he's very, very contagious. 799 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 4: I feel like more so watching Gilmore, he's like Q 800 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 4: Technie was always something that definitely stood out stood out 801 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 4: to me, and that's something that I that I like as. 802 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 3: Far as guy's being able to you shadow you take him. 803 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 4: Like I'm not I'm not impressed by like the interception, 804 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 4: I'm impressed by it, but you can put him on 805 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 4: him and that guy's eliminated out the game. That's what 806 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 4: That's what moves me more so than anything. So I 807 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 4: love that about him. Even Marshaan, I know he was 808 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 4: doing that at an early age. I think you want 809 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,959 Speaker 4: he was a Player of the Year for this rookie 810 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 4: year hunh. Yeah, yeah, he came in doing this thing, 811 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 4: who has always been a dog. I remember watching him 812 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 4: early and just watching his tape and all the trash 813 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 4: he was talking, making plays antics, and I'm like, nah, 814 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 4: he kinda he's. 815 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 3: Small, little man, gonna go out there and do it, 816 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 3: get it, He's gonna fight. So I definitely love always. 817 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 4: Watching DB's Man, I gave a lot of respect to 818 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 4: guys that played this position at a high level, that 819 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 4: go out there and and compete, because I mean, for me, 820 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 4: it's like you'll see you turn on the tape and 821 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 4: you'll watch certain guys he's. 822 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 3: Like, man, ain't no pride in that, Like that ain't 823 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 3: no what he's doing. 824 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 2: It's certain people I couldn't even watch on tape. Like 825 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 2: if I'm I'm trying to judge a receiver, I'm about 826 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 2: to pay somebody if they played certain teams, I wouldn't 827 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: even want to they tape because I'm like, that's not 828 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 2: even gonna help me. That's not what. 829 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 3: I can't get a good I can't get a good assessment. 830 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 2: I can't get a good assessment watching this dude. Look 831 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 2: he gave you two fifty, Like. 832 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 3: What do you want to definitely definitely, uh who. 833 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 2: What was your welcome to the NFL moment, like who 834 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 2: blessed you? Because because my second year it was this 835 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 2: receiver Stevie Johnson and nobody really know about it or 836 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 2: nasty that boy in a phone booth you ain't touching 837 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 2: it four seven four six, but in a phone booth 838 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 2: your hands? 839 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, wiggle? Are I blessed me? That? I really in 840 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: the path I FL? I really held my own. 841 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 4: Of course I ran over one tonight right right right 842 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 4: right the year, but I probably as far as the past, 843 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 4: I probably one dude who always gave me problems. I know, 844 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 4: like me and Davante was like compet. I wouldn't say 845 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 4: he blessed me. I would I win myn he win 846 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 4: win his, But I would probably say I struggled with 847 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 4: Mike Evans my first my first year. 848 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I know I struggled with him for sure. 849 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 3: Everybody else. I feel like it was. 850 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 4: Kind of like was silent, Like I wouldn't say that, 851 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 4: like I had trouble, but Mike like he was someingm 852 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 4: God like he doesn't do nothing special, it's not nothing 853 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 4: that you don't know that he's gonna do, but it's 854 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 4: like God damn. 855 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 3: Then he got Tom Brady, especially when when I've seen 856 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 3: him he. 857 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 4: Had Tom Brady throwing. So I'm like, hey, I can 858 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 4: I'm right here. He's big, running down the field, all strong, 859 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 4: make it test and catches. 860 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, he ain't no different, he ain't no joke. 861 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 2: Look in his hands. He way bigger and stronger than 862 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 2: you ever. 863 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 3: Think he is, no doubt, no doubt. 864 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 2: He was one of the ones to be me and 865 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 2: meet him and me and be Marshall. I had a 866 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 2: couple of battles, so I was like God. 867 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 4: With dinosaurs back, I would say, long lever cats. They 868 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 4: ain't got no wiggle. 869 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 2: They just all strong, all strong, hit you, grab you 870 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: right here. 871 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 3: A couple I made sure I back my linement up 872 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 3: a little bit. 873 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 2: Smart man, you. 874 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 3: Can't get it up there, and then they want that. 875 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 2: Smart man was. I ain't gonna take up too much 876 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 2: more of your time. If you got any questions from me, 877 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,919 Speaker 2: anything you want to ask, I'm happy to answer. Other 878 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 2: than that, I'll let you. Let you get back to 879 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 2: your old lady, your fiance and your family. 880 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 3: No, I appreciate it. 881 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 4: You you well, I don't I know my answer, but 882 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 4: you first, you first ballot. 883 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 2: You think I hope. So you know, I don't want 884 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 2: to jink. You don't want to jinxy, you know what 885 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 2: I mean. 886 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 3: There ain't no we gotta put it out there. 887 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 2: Look, you put it out there and it don't happen. 888 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 2: It's out there for yeah. Yeah, Look the rest of 889 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 2: it I had could roll over, you know what I mean. 890 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 3: Like when I want to call them all that stuff, 891 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 3: but I'm not. 892 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 2: I hope. So I think I did enough. You know, 893 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 2: I went to three Super Bowls, got enough all pros 894 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 2: and all that, you know, played on enough great defenses, 895 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 2: went somewhere else and we had a great defense and 896 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 2: went to another Bowl. So you know, I think during 897 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 2: my time, I think I would say I was the 898 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 2: best one that playing. But you know, everybody got their opinion. 899 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 2: So I hope hopefully the voters think that. And you know, 900 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 2: get me in. That would mean a lot to me, 901 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 2: you know, to get that jacket, and and you know 902 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 2: all your hard work, everything you dreamed about as a 903 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 2: little kid comes true. You know, that's the that's the 904 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 2: cool part. But that's what I'm saying about your teammates, 905 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 2: Like if you really want to shine, you bring them 906 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 2: boys along with you. And you and and they get it, 907 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like real competitors, real champions, 908 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 2: real dudes who really want what they say they want. 909 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 2: They don't really question it, you know what I mean. 910 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 2: If you if you got to pull teeth to get 911 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 2: a dude to do some extra work or to say hey, 912 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 2: this is our standard as a dB group and our 913 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 2: dB room and they want to argue it, then they 914 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 2: not really what they say they are, and they probably 915 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 2: gonna get replaced by somebody else. The coaches will see it. 916 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 2: The table show all that, but most dudes ain't built 917 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 2: like they didn't make it to the league by being 918 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 2: like that. So you might have an off day where 919 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 2: I'm tired or my hamstring herd and the sword, that's different. 920 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 2: But if you say, hey, in this dB room, this 921 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 2: is our standard. This is what we're doing with working 922 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 2: every day after practice. I don't care if it's just 923 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 2: catching a few balls on the jugs or getting a 924 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 2: few releases. Like we go out there, we do not 925 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 2: do the minimum, and dudes be like, no, man, I'm 926 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 2: going home. You you ain't gonna be what you say 927 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 2: you want to be. You ain't never gonna get there. 928 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 2: So I would say, I would say that was the 929 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 2: biggest thing about the Legion of Boom and our group, 930 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 2: that that that helped elevate us and elevate the guys 931 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 2: around us and elevate all of us. Is that that 932 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,280 Speaker 2: was the standard, and it was the standard, and nobody 933 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 2: ever questioned it, nobody saying nothing. You know what I mean, like, hey, 934 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 2: go get your extra work and let's go home. We're 935 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 2: gonna do a lap around the field. We're gonna do this. 936 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 2: Get your get your teen press coverage reps, or your 937 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 2: your your safety reps, your eye reps, your quarterback throwing 938 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 2: your all whatever, and let's get on out of here. 939 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 2: But the standard is the standard. Nobody's gonna argue with. 940 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 3: That, no doubt, no doubt. 941 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 4: My last one for you, and I know how smart 942 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 4: and intelligent you were, of course. 943 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 3: Off the field, but I know on the field it 944 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 3: was different. 945 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 4: I feel like I ain't seen too many guys in 946 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 4: the National Football League run somebody's round before they ran it. 947 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 4: So I think for me, just always seeing them, he 948 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 4: knows something. I feel like, how did how did you 949 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 4: get to that point? Like how did you Because like 950 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 4: for me, like I can watch film, I get to 951 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 4: a point where like good. I'm good like right recognition, 952 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 4: so I can kind of see, okay, three point one 953 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 4: onto the field based on certain splits. 954 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 3: I can expect certain things. 955 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 4: But how I guess for my question to you is 956 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 4: how did you get to that point to where it 957 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,439 Speaker 4: was at the level of which it was as far 958 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 4: as your IQ, you seeing certain things, you calling things 959 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 4: out before it even happens. 960 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 3: Was that kind of studying? Was that? Do you think 961 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 3: you just kind of have a certain type of memory 962 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 3: or something like? How it was at that level it was? 963 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 2: It was a little bit of everything. I played receiver 964 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 2: for a long time in college, and so I learned 965 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 2: West Coast offense under Bill Walsh and under Hofball and 966 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 2: all of them. So I understand what the offense trying 967 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 2: to do from their their their route combinations, like their philosophy, 968 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 2: and a lot of the combinations like a flat two 969 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 2: to the flat means one coming in or one on 970 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 2: the curral and one on the slant, depending on if 971 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 2: it's quick game or not. Two running the over route 972 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 2: means one coming in. It's either dig or post, you 973 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 2: know what I mean. So certain combinations are married with 974 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 2: other things, and so I practiced that way. I practice 975 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 2: situational football. That's all I do when I'm watching tape, 976 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 2: when I'm watching our own offense, if I'm in training camp, 977 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 2: I'm breaking down, Hey, are max protect deep developing routes? 978 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 2: What are our offense like? 979 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 4: Like? 980 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 2: Okay, they got they got a tidy end end and 981 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 2: a great digger and a running back staying in max protect, 982 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 2: all right, so they running deep developing routes. What's their 983 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 2: favorite routes? Okay, they like double dig post are they 984 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 2: like come back with a middle read or whatever it is. 985 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 2: And once you learn those things, then let the split 986 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 2: speak to you. Let the situation. Hey, it's third and five. 987 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 2: What are they like on third and five? 988 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 3: Again? 989 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 2: Like, okay, in the bunch, they like spot where it's 990 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 2: the six to seven the flat and it's like, oh, 991 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 2: they always do it out of emotion. So as I 992 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 2: see that emotion, all right, Now, what I want to know, Hey, 993 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 2: alert this, Alert this. If I see two, If I 994 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 2: see three, go to the flat, I know I didn't increase, 995 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 2: And now I just want to know which one I'm 996 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 2: trying to bait him into throwing. Hey, you see the 997 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 2: safety down, So he understands his three. He thinks he 998 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 2: has the flat. So if I take away the flat, 999 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 2: I know he takes the seven. So can I hold 1000 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 2: the flat long enough to go get the seven? Like 1001 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 2: you did in that poem's rep and you did what 1002 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 2: something I would do, but you did it subconsciously. You 1003 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 2: just did a reactionary, which was really cool. But so 1004 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 2: a lot of it is just understanding the concepts and 1005 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 2: our routes are married, like certain routes go with other 1006 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 2: routes always, and so they can't really run the concept 1007 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 2: without running the second part of it. So now I 1008 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 2: got to just know where my eyes are supposed to be. Hey, 1009 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 2: my zone two on this play my zone one, because 1010 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 2: I don't have any indicator over there with two on 1011 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 2: backside of a three by one, and it's third and 1012 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 2: five and I'm with Davonte, and you know it's it's 1013 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 2: up from there, you know what I mean? We can 1014 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 2: get anyway from there. But a lot of times it 1015 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 2: was just me understanding their concepts, understanding the situation we 1016 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 2: were in, and not letting the fatigue and the craziness 1017 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 2: of a game get me out of my game plan. 1018 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 3: No doubt, no doubt. Well, I thought, that's my that's 1019 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 3: my biggest thing. 1020 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 4: I feel like it is understanding it from an offensive 1021 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 4: perspective because I feel like, for me, I I can 1022 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 4: see it. I'm like, I'm really good at, like you said, 1023 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 4: flits for mation situations. Okay, when they want to do 1024 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 4: certain things, especially like when I see too, like a 1025 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 4: coverage that I can see two two will tell me. 1026 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 3: All I need to know about one like I don't. 1027 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 4: And a lot of times like I'll tell like she 1028 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 4: was asking, how you know all that I said, I 1029 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 4: see number two like too told me what you was 1030 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 4: what you was gonna do. So ops is my favorite 1031 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 4: unless you just did something completely off script and hey 1032 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 4: I got a rally to that, but right, yeah, he 1033 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 4: in fact, I just got to chalk that up and 1034 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 4: play a little true. But for the most part, I 1035 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 4: think for me, it's okay, how does the offense see 1036 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 4: what we're doing and see what I'm doing. I'm like, 1037 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 4: that's the biggest thing that I want to get to 1038 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 4: tow us. 1039 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 3: Like when I do know what they're doing. 1040 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 4: I can still see how he's seeing, how the quarterback 1041 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 4: seeing how the o c seeing it. I think that's 1042 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 4: something I want to take to that next level kind 1043 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 4: of start thinking and I I don't know who they hell, 1044 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 4: I need to talk to I need You. 1045 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 2: Can talk to some of them quarterbacks, you can talk 1046 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 2: to your old ce. Like a lot of the football 1047 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 2: minds ain't trying to keep secrets, especially if guys on 1048 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 2: their team. They might you know, it's training camp, so 1049 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 2: they might, Oh, we ain't helping you, got it. But 1050 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 2: during the season they want you to succeed. So you're like, hey, hey, 1051 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 2: could I could I watch a little takee with you? 1052 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 2: I just want to understand offense a little better so 1053 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 2: I can play better When we playing Cover two, they 1054 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 2: got an answer for it when they playing Cover three. 1055 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 2: When they're doing that, all of that and they and 1056 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 2: you need to know what they think it and why 1057 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 2: is they answer? So where the ball should be coming 1058 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 2: so we be in the game. And that's why people 1059 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 2: always say, y'all ran in Cover three and like, oh, 1060 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 2: it was so simple. It was so simple because we 1061 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 2: knew what they were gonna do, and so we knew 1062 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 2: where the answers were all the time. 1063 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 3: Hyah, ever got a weakness. 1064 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 2: They got a weakness. Communicate with the rest of your 1065 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 2: dudes too, because that helps you, Like when they know 1066 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 2: what you know and everybody knows the same thing. 1067 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:32,280 Speaker 3: Together. 1068 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 2: We can be together and you can dictate where the 1069 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 2: ball goes. You can say, hey, hey, we got cover two. 1070 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 2: It's gonna be it's a three by one, but it's 1071 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 2: enough side. They running a seven on the back side 1072 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 2: and they running special. All goes special coming from the 1073 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 2: three by one side. Hey, we ain't cover three. I'm 1074 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 2: not gonna I'm I'm gonna pass this tight end because 1075 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 2: I don't want my linebacker running with fee at three three. 1076 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 2: I need my buzzer to drop a little deeper, Hey, 1077 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 2: buzz deeper so he can come off that seven. We're 1078 00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 2: gonna make him throw the flat route to the running 1079 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 2: back to the tight end side. But we ain't gonna 1080 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 2: let him get that special with him running. Oh yeah, 1081 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 2: and so stuff like that. We would. We were just 1082 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,359 Speaker 2: talking through Hey, Hey, hey Bobby, Bobby, Hey, I got him, 1083 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 2: Hey kJ hey drop Hey, I need you deeper. We 1084 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 2: don't rally. We're gonna rally to the to the flat 1085 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 2: and we do boo rally to. 1086 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 3: The flatt take it down. 1087 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 2: And we got he got. He got a choice or 1088 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 2: he could throw me the ball. 1089 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 3: You know, he don't want to do that. 1090 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 2: They don't want to do that. But you know, at 1091 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 2: times they got they got. But but that's where leadership 1092 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 2: and camaraderie and chemistry comes together because you start to 1093 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 2: to help other guys do their job. Well you know 1094 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, don't keep secrets out there. It 1095 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 2: ain't no point. 1096 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 3: I won't try to know what I know, no doubt, 1097 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 3: no doubt. I appreciate it for show. 1098 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 2: All love, all love. All right, Better get in there 1099 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 2: and go. 1100 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,879 Speaker 3: Take care of that old lady, no doubt, no doubt. 1101 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 3: I appreciate you, but God must respect. 1102 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 2: Much respect and love. I'll see you at the end 1103 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 2: of the season when we got your game, no doubt. 1104 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 3: I beaver fart 1105 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:21,320 Speaker 2: The volume