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Speaker 1: thirty two? Seventeen times thirty two, seventeen times thirty two?

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Speaker 1: That's literally impossible, And I dare anyone in this room

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling podcast studio, it's around the NFL. I'm Dan Hansas.

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Speaker 1: I did get a thirty nine on a state mandated

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Speaker 1: a hit piece on the old Zeuser. And yet I'll

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Speaker 1: be a professional about it. Patrick Claiban, Greg Rosenthal, Heroes,

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Speaker 1: Very good, very good? How is everyone on this glorious Thursday? Patrick?

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Speaker 1: Thank you once again. It's I text the claibon that's

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Speaker 1: a Clay Bonassans on the show lately, and we're really

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Speaker 1: I'm doing news this week, and so three news shifts

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Speaker 1: of us. You're gonna learn so much about sports media

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Speaker 1: and how to dominate the marketplace. Today. Because Andrew Marshaun

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Speaker 1: of The New York Post will be joining us in

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Speaker 1: just a bit, we also will open up the mail bag.

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Speaker 1: We haven't done that a while. We're gonna open up

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Speaker 1: the old mail box. What's in the box? Nailed it?

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Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow's head spoiler alert, Well now, and you don't

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Speaker 1: even know what the movie is? Well, I mean I didn't,

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Speaker 1: glass Graver what films David Fincher's seven, Well, now you

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Speaker 1: other ventures. But those ventures, you don't know how it's

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Speaker 1: gonna go. I don't know how it is. Crypto venture

425
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Speaker 1: you know, are going right now? You know that this

426
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Speaker 1: is a bird in the hand, But I like your

427
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: theory because it always it seems strange to me, and

428
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Speaker 1: that it's maybe a little more of an open question

429
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Speaker 1: whether this contract is signed or not. Uh makes sense

430
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Speaker 1: to me. He could just like see what's going and

431
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Speaker 1: and my question for you is that is, what do

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Speaker 1: you think Fox is gonna do? Because yeah, it's a

433
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Speaker 1: hedge for Brady, it's also kind of a hedge for Fox.

434
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Speaker 1: But they have this year in front of them, and

435
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: they have big games, and they're gonna have the most

436
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: watched games of the year a lot of times at

437
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Speaker 1: four and it's a big decision. And how do you

438
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Speaker 1: uh fill this one spot in this year, considering that

439
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Speaker 1: Brady may or may not be there a year from now?

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Speaker 1: How do you think they handle it? I think it'll

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Speaker 1: be Greg Olson. I mean they're negotiating now. I think

442
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Speaker 1: they made a nice offer to start. I think Olson,

443
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Speaker 1: if I'm him, I get over my ego and I

444
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Speaker 1: get into this small club that has a chance to

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Speaker 1: do Super Bowls. He'd be able to do a super

446
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: Bowl at the end of this year, and he's in

447
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Speaker 1: his late thirties and he's been in prime position to

448
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Speaker 1: get you know, one of these Number one. Let's say

449
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Speaker 1: Brady comes in takes his job and he gets the

450
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: moated Uh, colins Worth in four years will be up.

451
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Speaker 1: You know that could become a possibility ultimately if you're

452
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Speaker 1: Greg Olson all pro great NFL career, but not a

453
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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, You're gonna have to do well because

454
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be if Brady hadn't signed. You know, Brady

455
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Speaker 1: looking over your shoulder and Aaron Rodgers looking over your

456
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Speaker 1: shoulder for that job, right was looking for that job. Yeah,

457
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: he's still possible to be the number two there. Uh,

458
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: So you're always gonna have uh Sean McVeigh as well.

459
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: So all those people always gonna be looking over your

460
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Speaker 1: shoulder unless you do well. So just get the job,

461
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Speaker 1: do well, uh and build up your other businesses and

462
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: you know you can be in that small group with

463
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Speaker 1: these openings and where the checks are. Maybe you're not

464
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,239
Speaker 1: gonna get you're not gonna get the Brady money, you're

465
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Speaker 1: not gonna get the Romo money maybe uh in the

466
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Speaker 1: near term, but can you get the eight figures at

467
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Speaker 1: some point in the near future. Yeah, I think that's

468
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Speaker 1: very possible if you're Greg Olsen. If everyone thinks you're

469
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Speaker 1: great it, I mean, that's that's it comes across on

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Speaker 1: the broadcast. He likes it, and you don't get that

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Speaker 1: with everyone, And I don't know if you'll get that

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Speaker 1: with Brady. And to me, that's why, like I'm more

473
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Speaker 1: excited to listen to Greg Olson than I wouldn't listen

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Speaker 1: to Tom Brady. I don't think you got that with

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees either. I was. I was curious, um, what

476
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Speaker 1: you think about Andrew? How that played out with NBC? Uh,

477
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: you know, one and done there, and he left his

478
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Speaker 1: options open in a cryptic tweet that he sent out

479
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: that had everybody going nuts. But I guess my take

480
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: on this is and you know it was a mutual decision,

481
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: I guess um. But at the same time, Breeze accomplished

482
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Speaker 1: quarterback obviously one of the greats of all time, but

483
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Speaker 1: not a lot of experience as a broadcaster. Uh. Did

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Speaker 1: NBC believe that they could mold him and bring him

485
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: along as it were? Or was Breeze just not into

486
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: an NBC didn't want to be in business with him anymore?

487
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 1: A couple of things there. I mean, they had high

488
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Speaker 1: hopes both sides for for him to kind of be

489
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Speaker 1: the air parent to Collinsworth. Uh. And he first off

490
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Speaker 1: didn't like doing studio. Studios is different, You're it's just

491
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Speaker 1: more of I think from his point of view, kind

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Speaker 1: of a fan view where you're just kind of talking

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Speaker 1: and having opinion. And he said publicly is on the

494
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show, he liked doing games better. Uh. And um,

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00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: I think if he wants to do games, he should

496
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: jump back in the booth. And even though Fox is

497
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: not gonna offer him big money to do those games,

498
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: because if you think about it, Drew Brees takes the

499
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: year off, doesn't do the NFL, He's just stuck. Is

500
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: gonna go down. He's not gonna get offered most likely,

501
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to believe he he would be

502
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: ever offered the number one job at any of these

503
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: places if they open, uh down the road, new quarterbacks retire.

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00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: He had a year that is looked upon, even though

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00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: it's really only one bad playoff game. Uh, looked upon.

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00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: That's not good kind of like at another guy who

507
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: kind of gets a little bit of too bad of

508
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: a rap is Jason Witten, but kind of like that.

509
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: And so if he wants to do this, he needs

510
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Speaker 1: to get back in the booth. And the reason you

511
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: know it didn't work out with NBC. Yeah, there's some

512
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: things behind the scenes, but uh, ultimately, uh, it's not

513
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 1: come on, come on, look, there's uh there there is

514
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: some feeling you know, Breeze wasn't especially into the studio

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Speaker 1: part of it. Uh. And then I think there was

516
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: real disappointment on that Radar Bengal game, where you know,

517
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: there is a feeling and you know, people who have

518
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: been in TV for a long time know that those

519
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: spotlight games when you're first gonna go on, uh, there's

520
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: gonna be a big opinion on you one way or

521
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: the other, and you could be neutral. But he really

522
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: had a poor game, and and that was you know

523
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Speaker 1: that they put their neck on the line, and so

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00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: they didn't like looking bad in that situation. Um. And

525
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: they don't really have and ultimately though, they just don't

526
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: really have what he wants to do, um, which is

527
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: what I've been told NFL games. So it just doesn't

528
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: really work. At the when they signed Breeze up, there's

529
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Speaker 1: the negotiations for the new contracts hadn't happened yet an NBC.

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Speaker 1: There was some hope that they'd have two packages and

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Speaker 1: that would would have opened up one for Breeze to

532
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Speaker 1: be a weekly guy. Uh and that didn't happen, and

533
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: so uh he wanted Amazon and Al Michaels didn't want him, uh,

534
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: and so he didn't end up there. There's multiple levels

535
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: to the market. Andrew a producer behind the glass Grave

536
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: Digger is a Titans fan Grave there you should do?

537
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: Is that feel good to you that Ryan down Hill

538
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: didn't have the worst one and done performance in the

539
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: playoffs this year? It was actually Drew Brees. That is

540
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: pretty He had a pretty performance. Um? Sure, Yeah. Do

541
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: we want to do before we say goodbye to Andrew? Um?

542
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: Do we want to ask about this dan Orlovsky situation

543
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: that's going on him getting moved up at ESPN? You

544
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: another just another breaking story from Mars shawand on Wednesday

545
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: that danial Orlovski will join Steve Levy and Lewis Riddeck Jr.

546
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: On ESPN's number two NFL TV booth. And that's notable

547
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: for ESPN. Well, look, it's it's really good for Rolovsky

548
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: because listen to the quarterbacks we're talking about, Tom Brady,

549
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, Tony Romo, Troy Aikman, besides Romo, that are

550
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: Hall of Famers. Romo, you know, is an Alzheimer in

551
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: a lot of respects in terms of had a great career.

552
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: Dani Rolovski is best known for running out of the

553
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: back of the end zone during his eleven year career.

554
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: So he's in his late thirties and he's already in

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Speaker 1: an NFL booth. Again, it's only three games this year,

556
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: will be five next year. But we talked about. What

557
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: we're talking about with Breeze is putting yourself in position

558
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Speaker 1: for the future. If he does well, you know, down

559
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: the road, if he builds up his name even more so,

560
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: could he be at number one at some point? Yeah,

561
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: I mean you have to be in that booth to

562
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Speaker 1: be UH, to be considered. You know, you look at

563
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: Chris collins Worths career. He was a pretty good receiver,

564
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Speaker 1: but not a Hall of Famer, and he built up

565
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: he was, you know, further down UH the UH depth

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Speaker 1: chart when he first started. I think NBC was where

567
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: he first started, and then he just kept moving up,

568
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: moving up, And now you know, he's a twelve and

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Speaker 1: a half million dollar a year analyst, which in this

570
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: day and age is cheap, but it's still pretty good

571
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Speaker 1: money for six months a year. Did you know before

572
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: day up? I think we learned learned together. I don't know.

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00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if I knew before I knew things

574
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: are going on. Any Fox was interested, you know, he

575
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: could have gone to Fox for five day a week

576
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: NFL centered show and then do some lower level games

577
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: there and that helped him, uh with ESPN to get

578
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: that role that Greasy basically vacated when he went to

579
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Speaker 1: be the quarterbacks coach for the forty niners. We what

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00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on lev I'm really not a Levy

581
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: fan in the NFL, but I like him better as

582
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: a host than as a play by player. I think

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00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: ESPN has made this mistake a number of times. Is

584
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: this they put studio more guys who are better in studio,

585
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 1: haven't had the reps on play by play into these

586
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: big positions the hockey guy like it's it was the

587
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: same thing when Costas was hosting Football Night in America.

588
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: It's like, the biggest sport in America deserves someone who's

589
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,479
Speaker 1: number one sport is that sport like Levy. And I'm

590
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: not a hockey guy, but I know people love him

591
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: on hockey and he's been a hockey guy forever and

592
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: you can you can hear the path like he's he's

593
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: done it. If you watch ESPN, he's done that for

594
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: twenty years. He knows the game. It's like, if that's

595
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: your number one sport, why are you on the biggest

596
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: platform on your other sport just because I guess because

597
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: your trustworthy. I mean, it's not a big deal. I'm

598
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: not killing what if they do the NFL for people

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00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: from around here, w f A n way back when

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00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: right before we have Michaels. He can pull it off.

601
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: But it's like, I don't know, it's too much. Yeah,

602
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: we had before there is the red zone and now

603
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: there's all these shows where they go around to all

604
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: the actually I think called around the NFL. You may

605
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: owe f a n money, but where they used to

606
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: go and Steve leave your host and you go go

607
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: to Cleveland and you know, they go and they get

608
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: me up. So he does have the NFL background, but

609
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: it's just more of the than not being uh play

610
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: by play guy. Fully, he's gotten better. He's gotten better.

611
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: He's just not that stage. And the other thing that

612
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: ESPN kept making the mistake of that they won't have

613
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 1: with Bucking Aikman. They keep they kept throwing people together.

614
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: And their first broadcast is on National TV on Monday Night,

615
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: which is probably the biggest spotlight in terms of broadcast

616
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: booth of any booth, regardless if they have good games

617
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: or not, just because of how Monday Nights situated in

618
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: the in the weekends the NFL. Uh. And so I

619
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: don't think that they were they kind of were uh

620
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: put in there, you know, down three a little bit. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sorry you got sucked into that. Greg likes

622
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: to start a feud with the ESPN my night football

623
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Speaker 1: announcer every couple of years, and we're working. That's not true.

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Speaker 1: Who you got? Who are you gonna go after? There's

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00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: no one, no, no, Yeah, that's a good point. We're

626
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Speaker 1: big bucking fans. Andrews are done. You've said it all.

627
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: Check him out on the New York Post. Uh. Check

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Speaker 1: him out. He's the co host of marsha and and

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Speaker 1: Orange Sports Media podcast and uh, thank you, buddy. We

630
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Speaker 1: always love having you on for your insight and your

631
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Speaker 1: news breaking ability. In best of luck uh in the

632
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: upcoming season. Great, my pleasure, Thanks guys, Thanks Andrew. All right,

633
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: there he goes Andrew Marshawn, I love, I love al

634
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Speaker 1: Michael's dismissing Drew brees out of hand, I get this

635
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: guy next and whispers that he didn't want to go

636
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Speaker 1: to into But you could read between the lines of yeah,

637
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Speaker 1: the breeze in the studio, the like the off field

638
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Speaker 1: fit might not have been a culture fit. Like that's

639
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Speaker 1: what I when he said there was some other stuff

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Speaker 1: that he hadn't been reporting. He just felt like, you know,

641
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Speaker 1: to be nice about it. Maybe it wasn't a fit

642
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Speaker 1: personality wise. Yeah, and uh so, Yeah, make sure you

643
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Speaker 1: follow Andrew on Twitter because he's on top of everything.

644
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Speaker 1: I like to when Clay Bonn asked him if he

645
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Speaker 1: knew before or ALASKI knew, um, because that is something

646
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Speaker 1: else I think keeps asking because well, it's just because

647
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Speaker 1: sometimes he's probably breaking the news that the people don't

648
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Speaker 1: even know, and how do you how do you handle that?

649
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Speaker 1: You know, how do you handle that emotionally morally? We

650
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: could have done another like an hour with Marshawn, because

651
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: our show just has this need. Um. All right, so

652
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Speaker 1: as prom us, it's time now to open up the

653
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: mail bag. We don't do it too often. In fact,

654
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Speaker 1: a couple I would say couple of months ago throughout

655
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Speaker 1: our mail bag prompt and the questions, they just weren't

656
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Speaker 1: up to snuff, so we canned the mailbag seg. So

657
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Speaker 1: this was a chance for the listeners to really establish

658
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Speaker 1: themselves once again as difference makers. And and Justin you

659
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Speaker 1: were the you were curating the mail bag for today's episode.

660
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Speaker 1: How'd you feel about what the what the listeners brought?

661
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: There was some good stuff. There was a lot of

662
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: like very team specific stuff that's like I'm gonna ask

663
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Speaker 1: about my team. That's like I don't know how much

664
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into that. Why not whatever? That's the

665
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Speaker 1: mail bag is a great time to sort of hit

666
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Speaker 1: some teams and topics we wouldn't normally say for the

667
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Speaker 1: future for sure hit you know, it's like we haven't

668
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Speaker 1: had a lot of trying to think of a team here,

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Speaker 1: throw a team out, jack. Let's start with the Jacklar

670
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: right there. That's why back baby, all right? First question,

671
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: do you think Trevor Lawrence will have a glow up

672
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: in year two with Doug Pete at the helm. I

673
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 1: think they'll be better, But that wide receiver corps is bad.

674
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: Is Christian Kirk really the answer bonus question. Well, Greg

675
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: Rosenthal released that Emo ep Emo revival is very hot

676
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: right now? Band we were you know, I have said

677
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Speaker 1: this on the show before. If I had to try

678
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Speaker 1: to compare us to a band, maybe the Dead Milkman,

679
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: a little joking Indy and something like the Delaware tapes

680
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Speaker 1: that were promised. I never promised anything. Remember this, We

681
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Speaker 1: need you help, We need this. Who is this again?

682
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: Come on? Your kid kids future will be my dad, Greg?

683
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Speaker 1: Can I trust to you a jag do it? Yeah?

684
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Speaker 1: To to recab any listeners that weren't with us five

685
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: years ago? That is Dan using It's up to you.

686
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Speaker 1: It's not just my children, it's children all across the

687
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Speaker 1: south Land, children across the world that needed because the

688
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: reason why, but also using them um to ask like

689
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Speaker 1: different questions that maybe we're in your mind that made

690
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Speaker 1: you laped us now like do I trust you? So

691
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Speaker 1: we got to learn about the reason why the children

692
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Speaker 1: was because we once offered Greg, we would we would

693
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Speaker 1: make a or this listeners would make a sizeable donation

694
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Speaker 1: to some type of children's charity. If you let us

695
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Speaker 1: hear the taste of your h Levon was going to

696
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Speaker 1: pick the children's charity, some orphanage or something like that. Um,

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Speaker 1: if Greg just played the tapes, and to think that

698
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Speaker 1: Greg actually turned that down. I don't know the tapes.

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Speaker 1: The tapes out there. Uh, this this great listeners, you know,

700
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Speaker 1: wanting some Trevor Lawrence content. I'm gonna give it to me.

701
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Speaker 1: Knew better, Right, he's asking for the tapes. We're talking

702
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Speaker 1: about the tapes. I think Trevor Lawrence was such a

703
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Speaker 1: fascinating We need the tapes Greg, all right, all right? Uh,

704
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: he was such a fascinating guy to watch because like

705
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Speaker 1: you want to put something into the sixteen games that

706
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Speaker 1: he actually played, Uh, and it wasn't great. I think

707
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Speaker 1: what he was as a rookie, like you saw the timing,

708
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: the flashes, the good stuff, and it it felt like

709
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Speaker 1: as the season went along, he was just trying to

710
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Speaker 1: not make mistakes. He was just trying to not blow things.

711
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Speaker 1: And I think that would made sense on that team,

712
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Speaker 1: Like he was trying to make his inner touchdown interception

713
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Speaker 1: ratio not totally fall apart. And he was a little

714
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Speaker 1: head tin. So I'm very optimistic that he's gonna be

715
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Speaker 1: way better. It reminds me a little bit of what

716
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Speaker 1: the Patriots did in the last off season. Yeah, they

717
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: didn't get the greatest group of players around Mac Jones,

718
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Speaker 1: but they went from like league worst too, somewhere in

719
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Speaker 1: the middle, lower middle of the pack. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's kind of what the Jaguars. That same thing with McDaniels,

721
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Speaker 1: with ma Patrician. But we'll talk about that at another show.

722
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Speaker 1: Now I'm saying that's what they did when they spent

723
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Speaker 1: all that money. And in this case, yeah, you're playing

724
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Speaker 1: league where's coaching too, with another middle maybe of the

725
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Speaker 1: pack coach, and so that's going to help him so

726
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Speaker 1: much that I'm very optimistic having your head coach not

727
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Speaker 1: like be on a one year mission to be an

728
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Speaker 1: unmitigated right to everybody he sees in the world. I thought,

729
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Speaker 1: I've said this on the show, like I'm very bullish

730
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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars improving this season. I'm bullish on Trevor Lawrence.

731
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Speaker 1: I think who comported himself with a lot of dignity

732
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Speaker 1: and got through that season despite being a kid um

733
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Speaker 1: and he also made a handful of the prettiest throws

734
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Speaker 1: of any rookie quarterback. But the football was was bad overall,

735
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Speaker 1: to the point where Okay, this is a generational guy

736
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Speaker 1: on paper that like if he was Andrew Luck or

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, wouldn't we have seen it a little more,

738
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Speaker 1: a little more. It's a generational bad coach and a

739
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Speaker 1: bad generational bad environment. It was. And it's almost like,

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Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. It's fair that maybe we

741
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Speaker 1: should have seen more like Peyton Manning through twenty eight

742
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Speaker 1: touchdowns interceptions his rookie year, but he also threw twenty

743
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Speaker 1: seven touchdowns and had some great drives as the season

744
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Speaker 1: went along down the stretch of games. Maybe we didn't

745
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Speaker 1: see another plan was like, what's fair for expectations Like

746
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Speaker 1: if Trevor Lawrence is a league average starter this year,

747
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Speaker 1: I think you've gotta be really happy if you're the Jaguars.

748
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Speaker 1: That's a big step up that said, Um, if you

749
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Speaker 1: had gone into like when he was drafted, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a league average starter after two years, Well that

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Speaker 1: that is lower than like what we saw out of

752
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray or some of these other guys that have

753
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Speaker 1: come out Gunslay That might be lower than Mac Jones

754
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Speaker 1: is this year. So it's just tricky to where you

755
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: put that expectations where people are going to actually be happy.

756
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: You're You've kind of annoyed me because last year you

757
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: were talking about how you wanted to save takes. You

758
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: don't want to burn off takes, take making takes, no,

759
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Speaker 1: But now you have that. I'm thinking about that now,

760
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Speaker 1: and I'm also thinking about we're talking about the Lions

761
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Speaker 1: and trying not to get two bullish on the Lions.

762
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the same thing with the Jaguars. I'm

763
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Speaker 1: just by the time September comes around, I'm gonna have

764
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Speaker 1: that team's thirteen and four or whatever, and it's gonna

765
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Speaker 1: be ridiculous. You're high on him, which makes total sense.

766
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Speaker 1: The draft Knicks all would take him number one, not

767
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Speaker 1: even thinking again, and that makes total sense. All right,

768
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Speaker 1: before we jump into another question, let's take a quick

769
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Speaker 1: responsible break. All right, what else we got? All right?

770
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Speaker 1: Moving on? Which team is the quote Andy Dalton scale

771
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: of teams? All teams above them are probably good and

772
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Speaker 1: all teams below them are probably bad. Dude, historically or

773
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: like in landscape, how do you want to tackle this?

774
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: At first? Blush, it's I'm thinking historically, and I don't

775
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Speaker 1: know if it's because I heard it from the voice

776
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Speaker 1: of one justin Graver. But I'm just gonna say the

777
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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titan a traditionally good team. You know that hurts

778
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: him too. Yeah, it's till over the years, but it's

779
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: this year, this year that's even true. It feels now

780
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Speaker 1: when you asked, I think I'm thinking more about this

781
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Speaker 1: year because that wasn't what the scale was. It sort

782
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Speaker 1: of moved up and down based on the year. For

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Speaker 1: this year, I would go Vikings, which actually isn't a

784
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: bad answer. For the last good ten to fifteen years,

785
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Speaker 1: they feel very much like like they're going to be

786
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Speaker 1: stuck in the middle of no matter what. I got

787
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Speaker 1: another option and the other conference the Raiders, Okay, they're

788
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Speaker 1: kind of like if you're now the Raiders right now

789
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: a couple of years, if you're twenty years. Certainly they've

790
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Speaker 1: been terrible in this year. Talking about the recent NFL

791
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: if there's an all time Dalton scale team like the like,

792
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Speaker 1: I don't know, that might be a little too broad

793
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Speaker 1: to really drill down on. Um. Yeah, this year though,

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Speaker 1: I think the raider Is are a great answer. I

795
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Speaker 1: even they were kind of like that last year, really

796
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: like Chargers. You should have probably won that game all right,

797
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: what else we got? Alright? Moving on? This is a

798
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 1: more fun one is watching Commanders games while going commando

799
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: a proper way to show support. So Carson Wentz's answer

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00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: would be to this one, no doubt, as we all know,

801
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: decided to really go ahead and start to take command.

802
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: Was not wearing underpants on the plane. It really comes

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Speaker 1: into context when you think about it being somebody not

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00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: wearing underpants. Um, well, that's a it's a it's a

805
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: better question for Mark Famously, Um, not a huge fan

806
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: of underwear. I'm not. I'm not doing that. I used to.

807
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: He finally changed his ways, but for probably the first

808
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Speaker 1: five years we knew him, that was his thing, and

809
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Speaker 1: it would be distracting to me because I'd be like,

810
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Speaker 1: the only thing separating us is a thin, thin layer

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Speaker 1: of denim. Although at least he wore jeans every it

812
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: wasn't like it wasn't like Jim shorts or any that

813
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: feels so uncomfortable. It seems like it's a very cessler thing.

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Speaker 1: Put it that way, it's something if you live in

815
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Speaker 1: a commune in Colorado for a while, you're probably not

816
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Speaker 1: wearing underpants. Underpants is a funny word by the way

817
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Speaker 1: super funny underpants is way funnier than underwear. Yeah, was

818
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Speaker 1: always one of my favorite underpants. Do you guys ever

819
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Speaker 1: read Captain Underpants? I'd write it to my children. Yes,

820
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: huge when I was in the country school. Alright, um

821
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Speaker 1: flex for Greg which fan base is the most tiresome

822
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Speaker 1: on Twitter these days? I would say the Bears. I

823
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: have a theory when you're a once proud franchise that

824
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: has a quarterback problem um or hasn't had a quarterback

825
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: and now fields I like, but especially under Trabisky, they

826
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: were just they were a tough situation. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go Bears right now because it's like the ones proud

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Speaker 1: franchise that like doesn't want I believe they are where

829
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: they are right now? Okay, good answer? What um? I

830
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: mean everybody's equally annoying. You've got these annoying people in

831
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: all of these fan bases, and they all have their

832
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: particular trials and tribulation. There's just more of them in

833
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: like the Patriots or the Bears or the Giant. Yeah,

834
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Speaker 1: I will say that. Yeah, in fact, you've convinced me

835
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Speaker 1: correct Patriots fans are the absolutely um yeah, that's that's

836
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: an easy, that's the safe answer. Uh, this nude I

837
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: talked about on Tuesday's show, this new breed of vocal

838
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: Browns fans very much on my radar. Yeah, um, so

839
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: that would be my vote, but only again, only of

840
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: a fraction of that fan base. I don't know how

841
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: big diffraction is though. I'm just glad you didn't say

842
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 1: the Titans. All right, let's give him a break. Who

843
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: is the anti team of a t L Not necessarily

844
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: the team you all collectively disliked, but the team you

845
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: want collectively feel the most men about. Well. West used

846
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: to talk about the Bermuda triangle of NFL coverage that

847
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: we fell into, and he did a good job pumping

848
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: up those I CEN NFC South teams. That would be

849
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:09,959
Speaker 1: my first he would say, the um the Commanders over

850
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: the years, in their different iterations, has definitely been the team.

851
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 1: UM I was the most anti because of the way

852
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: that they were run from the top town and that

853
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: really hasn't changed because it's just what's been going on

854
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: off the field for two decades and it kind of

855
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: shows up on the field too. But that's that's like

856
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: active animosity though, right, anti team of a t O.

857
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: I guess if it's ambivalent. I feel like the Falcons

858
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: slip under the radar. I've tried to like stick up

859
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: for them over the years, but yeah, the Falcons, Yeah,

860
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: Houston would be my vote. What else? All right, this

861
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: one I'm gonna opposed as an either or question, So

862
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: answer one of the two. And by the way, I

863
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: would say this one thing that I personally, you gotta go.

864
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: Patriarch knew he had he had news coverage. This is

865
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: actually is there something so tell know? This is? This

866
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: has been um really your move actually on the round

867
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: the NFL Piro he would have to run downstairs. You

868
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: remember from from our old studio, these children, those unnamed

869
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: children asking can we trust you? Greg? No one asks

870
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: that the news acumen and we could trust what comes

871
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: out of Patrick Clayburn's now appreciates behind the camera. Thank you,

872
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: thank you guys. There you buddy, There you go, buddy.

873
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: All right, Um, I was gonna say, I think one

874
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: thing we collectively strive for on this show is to

875
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 1: give teams coverage the old inside the NFL philosophy. So

876
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: the fact that we highlighted, for instance, Houston in Atlanta,

877
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: maybe that's a goal for us. Greg too, maybe give

878
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: them a little more shine. But teams also, Houston since

879
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: Watson trade, has been about as off the Raider as

880
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: an NFL team. I was gonna say, teams kind of

881
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: earn um being ignored on this podcast, typically either through

882
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: irrelevance or just being boring. For the West always had

883
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: a problem with their Titans coverage because they were they

884
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: were in that middle and they had a chance to

885
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: be better. So in theory, the middle should get more

886
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: than the bottom. But the you know, the secret is

887
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a secret, like the bottom

888
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: is more interesting. You know, there's more going on all right.

889
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: Which one playoff team is most likely to miss the playoffs?

890
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: Which below five team is most likely to make the playoffs? Okay,

891
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: I gotta refresh myself and and think about who was

892
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: in the postseason a year ago. I mean, it's got

893
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: to be the the Steelers's just crazy because I wouldn't

894
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: totally discount the Steelers from getting it together. Um, but

895
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: the Steelers, Raiders, Cardinals are the ones that pop off

896
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: right off the bat Titans maybe close. Sorry, Yeah, the

897
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: Cardinals I got are on my radar a little bit

898
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: because I just don't think it's a very healthy vibe there.

899
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: But they also do have some really talented players, including um,

900
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: you know, a star quarterback is a little embattled right now,

901
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: but we'll see how that goes. Uh Yeah, Steelers, I

902
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: think are the are the pick for me as well,

903
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 1: just because what you said, I'm taking it back. Actually

904
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: I'm going Cardinals. I have no faith in the Like

905
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: when I saw the over under for Cardinals is like

906
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: a winning team. I just feel like there's there's absolutely

907
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: a chance at least that they're picking in the top five.

908
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I'm now once you said it, like

909
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: I didn't say now. Once you said it, I suddenly

910
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: was transported back to Sophi Stadium January seventeen. My kids

911
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: going absolutely crazy. And then I look at this roster.

912
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: When I did the projected starters for the NFC West,

913
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: they got a lot of problems, like they have big

914
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: holes and Kyler Murray and some things make up for

915
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: I feel like they could be back in the playoffs,

916
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: but there's a scenario where they're four and thirteen and

917
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: they're just terrible. And I don't know if I can

918
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: say that about almost the whole other gets right where

919
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: there's about any other team in the plant that our

920
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: friend of the show, sorry Arizona and my longtime friend

921
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 1: Jason Zumwalt. I sat in the second to top row

922
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: of the upper deck watching the Rams obliterate the Cardinals,

923
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: like uh, watching that Kyler Murray give up pick six

924
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: that turned the game into a celebration at SOPHI and

925
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: then I just realized that again Jason Zumwalt, Arizona sports

926
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: fan got excited for a Game seven between the Suns

927
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: and Mavericks um that turned into the definitive Game seven

928
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: trouncing that we've ever seen. I didn't know this. That

929
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: Grave Digger, by the way, is a Dallas native and

930
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: as a big Mavericks fan, so we're in a Mavericks

931
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: t shirt. Uh So some Walt in the span of

932
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: a couple of months was at the playoff game where

933
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are organization went up in flames, and then

934
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: a Game seven that all Game seven's will be judged

935
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: by that in terms of no shows that I I

936
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: always say like some blowouts are entertaining Seahawks Broncos in

937
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, it was entertaining for most of it

938
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: because you were just like, I can't believe this is happening,

939
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 1: and I feel like that Son's game was like that,

940
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: just as a study of like human nature. To see

941
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: them score twenty seven points in the first and the

942
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: way the crowd was falling apart. I don't know. It's

943
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: just I'm with you. Let's do a couple more. What

944
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: you got? I got two more. This one is a

945
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: little more thoughtful. Which current NFL player would you like

946
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: to write a biography about? And why we would be

947
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: writing it? You would be writing a biography paper like

948
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: Rogers would be a fun one to read, But I

949
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: don't want to write it. I don't want to spend them.

950
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to see it. All right, I got

951
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: to yeah, because it kind of goes with like who

952
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: do I want to hang out with? Who do we who?

953
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: Would be fun? Two very different books, The first of

954
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. It's a little early to write about it,

955
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: but spending a season with him, I just think he's

956
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: an interesting guy. We don't know a lot about him.

957
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: Uh this season particular is interesting at some point. A

958
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: Lamar one I think would be fun. Maybe it's a

959
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: little early. The other one is a totally different type

960
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: of book, which would be a Dan Campbell book. I

961
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: just think he's he's been around, He's been a player,

962
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: he's been an assistant coach, He's been around. This isn't

963
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: so much a biography as maybe a season in life,

964
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: the type of books that Paul Zimmerman used to write

965
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: following We've you bank around, Like it would be into

966
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: like a Dan camp because I think there's I think

967
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: he's an intelligent guy too, and you kind of think

968
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: of him as a meat head. There's I think there's

969
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: a lot going on there. That's one I like that. Um,

970
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: and I guess we'll get a little bit of that

971
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: with Hard Knocks. Yeah, Mike Tomlin would be kind of

972
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: interesting to learn about. Yeah, um, like what makes him tick?

973
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: Like what's his deal? Like able to find out the

974
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: The Steelers are some great books back in the day

975
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: and that culture and the organization. Absolutely, he has been

976
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: at the center of the a f C for a

977
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: long time. Just a lot of stories. Uh, there I'll go.

978
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: I'll go Tom Melan, but uh, I feel like one's

979
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: gonna pop in my head, but for now I'll go

980
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: with him. What about a biography that focuses on Zack

981
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: Wilson's two offseason, turning into a little thick boy and

982
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: then proceeding to take the NFL by storm. But the

983
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: book ends definitely hit the way room looks beefy. He's

984
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: a little beefy thick boy. That's the name of the biography.

985
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: UM Forward by Greg Rosenthal. Actually um and then the

986
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: book ends at the onset of training camp. So we

987
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: really get to craft a story that of a boy

988
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: becoming a man, becoming a little thick boy and uh,

989
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: and then it just ends as training camp begins. There's

990
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: no way it could have a bad ending at just

991
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: a moment in time. We just need we need some

992
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: authors out there to go out and do it. I

993
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: know access isn't the same, but we just don't have

994
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: the same types of season in the life books. There

995
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: was there was that Jets book, you know, like like

996
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: that was great. That's not what was that? What it

997
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: was called Play like a Jet now, play like you mean?

998
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: It was the Rex Ryan biography that I read and

999
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: wrote about for this website years ago. We're thinking of

1000
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: collision low Cross books like that, UM, like a season

1001
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: in the life, like actually getting an actual field you

1002
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: don't get. You don't get those anymore. All right, is

1003
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: that it. I got one more as we head into

1004
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: the off season, the meat of it really, what is

1005
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: the most tiresome offseason trope? Oh so many to choose from. Uh,

1006
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: I think best shape of my life is always the

1007
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 1: the go to, the standard bear for me. Also the

1008
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: trope um when playing much everything is slowed down for

1009
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: the second year quarterback. I had a schedule in terms

1010
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: of injuries, and a schedule is a great one. But

1011
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: I really do like, like, for since speaking of my

1012
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: little thick boy, um, that storyline you're gonna read a

1013
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: lot of notebooks leads in August about how all the

1014
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: second year quarterbacks, including Zach Wilson, everything's just opened up

1015
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: for me this year. I'm seeing the field in a

1016
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: way that I wasn't seeing as a rookie. And it's

1017
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: like they never say that in year one. They never

1018
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: never like I can't see anything. I everything's a blur

1019
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: to me. Like, but then you come eight months later

1020
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: and you're like, last year, what a joke. I shouldn't

1021
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: even been on the field. But this year different. Also,

1022
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: Draft bust X looks ready, like he's ready to turn

1023
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: the corner is a good one, right, It's it's usually

1024
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate because some there are turnarounds, but it's mostly like, oh,

1025
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: this totally disappointing aspect of last year is gonna be

1026
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: fine now because we're in the off season. UM, I

1027
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: do like, Okay, quarterback X reminds veteran player, Why of

1028
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: Brett Farve. I don't know if you want to be

1029
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: reminded of Brett five right now. You know he's been

1030
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: ensued for literally steal stealing money from the state of

1031
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: Mississippi that was supposed to go to children. It's tough,

1032
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: But did you read the story, the five story? Oh yeah,

1033
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: I've been totally into this story because it's just like

1034
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 1: I thought there were differents of corruption, like some people

1035
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: knew where the money was going and some people didn't,

1036
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: And I thought far was in the group of people

1037
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: that didn't realize it. But listen, maybe you read read

1038
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: it closely. I mean, the million dollar man is involved,

1039
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: and it's absolutely a story like Bessie and his son

1040
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: are involved and they knew exactly where it was going. Anyway,

1041
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: before we signed off for the weekend. We have not

1042
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: done this in a while. Then, thank you everybody who

1043
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: sent in UM letters to the virtual mailbox. What's in

1044
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: the box, Let's do a little culture recommendations? Who I

1045
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: like it? I've got how many do you have? I've

1046
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: got too many? So I gotta cut it down. I

1047
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: got a couple. Why don't you start? Okay, Um, I'm

1048
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: gonna go with the movie that felt I felt like

1049
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: I got no pop last year, but I enjoyed it

1050
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: so much. Come on, come on starting. Joaquin Phoenix, you

1051
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: are such a Joakin head I do. I am a

1052
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 1: big Joakin Phoenix fan, and it was nice to see

1053
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: him just be a normal guy that wasn't like a

1054
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: huge uh storyline. Basically, he ends up watching It's an

1055
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: uncle movie, like probably the greatest uncle movie of all time.

1056
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: You know, watches his nephew. He lives in New York,

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Speaker 1: watches his nephew for like a month. It's good on

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00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: like family and uh that that sort of love and uh.

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Speaker 1: It was just great, really well done by the guy

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Speaker 1: Mike Mills who did uh twenty one Century Woman. I

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00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: believe in some other good movies beginners starting You and

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00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: mcgragg had an uncle movie. Yeah, it's very much an

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00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: uncle movie. It's terrific. Lilyan Kelty back in New York. Um,

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Speaker 1: all right, I UM read a book in Mexical the Nineties,

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00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: a book by Chuck Closterman. Always love Clusterman. Um, but

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Speaker 1: this is the UK. I feel like he was always

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00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: meant to right, just drilling down into what made the

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00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: nineties the nineties and how how different the world is now.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you and I both are formed of years

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00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: were in the nineties, and also people of our age

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00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: group like born in late eighties early um or I said,

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00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: late late seventies, early eighties were the last generation that

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00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: knows what it was like before the Internet Internet, and

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00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: what it was like after the Internet. Um. And it

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00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: kind of just digs into everything, um, from a tech

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00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: standpoint to a culture standpoint, and how things have radically

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00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: shifted over that time. So if you're interesting kind he's

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00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: like a nineties not an icon, but he I certainly

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00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: think of him as like a culture critic of the nineties.

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00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: Absolutely and he um. Yeah, it's it's said that you know,

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Speaker 1: it takes about twenty years. Every new generation tends to

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00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: be intrigued by whatever generation existed twenty years earlier. And

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00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: I feel like younger are really plugged into nineties culture now.

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00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: If you actually lived through it. It's really interesting to

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00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: kind of breakdown what it meant to grow up and

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00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: what the how the nineties impacted everything that followed. Did

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Speaker 1: you know according to this book. It's been disputed by

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00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: some other journalists not according to the book, but Bill

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00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: Clinton sent two emails when he was president of the

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00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: United States. That's what he said, but then he would

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00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: never lie exactly, uh Bill Clinton. There's a really good

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00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: uh Bill Clinton breakdown in that book as well. So anyway,

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00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: the nineties of book by Chuck Clauster and what else

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00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,959
Speaker 1: off with a book? Then to uh, the new Emily st.

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00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: John Mandel book. I feel like people know her now

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00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: because Station Eleven was her book that popped into a

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00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: big HBO miniseries. I like Station Eleven as a book,

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00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: but I love Sea of Tranquility, which is her new book,

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00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: And I really uh like Glass Hotel, which was the

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00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: book before, and like each one of her books have

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01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: gotten better, and you absolutely should read Glass Hotel before

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01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: see If Tranquility because it's kind of a sequel. There's, uh,

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01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 1: there's some time travel element involved, but it's very much

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01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: a pandemic book without feeling like it's um bashing you

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01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: over the head with a Pandemic book and I thought

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01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: it was so smart, such a quick read to Um,

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01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: and uh, I don't know she she is just like

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Speaker 1: extraordinarily talented, So I would I would say both those books,

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Speaker 1: but the new one see if Tranquility is awesome, all right,

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Speaker 1: and I'll end it with a music wreck. UM. I've

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01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: mentioned them on the podcast before, but me and my

1112
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: buddy Bob from Throwback Podcast are going to the concert tonight.

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01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: Gang of Youths. They're a Sydney based band that they've

1114
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: since relocated to London. Just fell in love with this band,

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01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: can't wait to see him live. Great energy. The singer

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01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: lead singer, UM has incredible energy and stage presence and

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01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: I love their music. Very raw and anthemic and hard

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01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: on the sleeve and a lot of the things that

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01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: I like in rock music that aren't always quote unquote cool.

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Speaker 1: UM is what I like in terms of a band

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01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 1: that's not afraid to swing for the cheap seats and

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01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 1: UM really project emotion in an anthemic, anthemic way. That's

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Speaker 1: what Gang of Us does, that's their stock and trade.

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to seeing them, and if you

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Speaker 1: want to discover their music. Uh, they had two really

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01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: good UM albums in the last few years, Angel in

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01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 1: Real Time and go Further in Lightness from check out

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01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:40,439
Speaker 1: that band. You will thank me a little. I would

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Speaker 1: throughout some music, but I don't want to know then

1130
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: that would be too much. But I think if you're like,

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01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: what do they sound like? There's a little UM, there's

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01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: a little Arcade fire in there, there's a little National

1133
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: in there, there's little in Excess in there's a little

1134
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: You Two in there. There's all this stuff mashed together.

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01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: If you like any of those bands, I think you'll

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01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: really like this one. I'm gonna do it anyway. Ship

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01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: Sharon van Etton's new one and and push it to

1138
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: Vince Staples. There's been a lot of good music coming out.

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01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: What about I'm sure you have a take about our

1140
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: friend from Compton, Kendrick Lamar and his new album. I

1141
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: don't have a take yet. I need to listen to

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01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: him more. To stay tuned for next week's do you

1143
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: have any pop culture takes a grave Digger Before we

1144
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: say goodbye, Oh yeah, well that's that's the center of

1145
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: pop culture. Before we sign off this episode of Dirty No,

1146
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Speaker 1: let's hear it? What what what what? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?

1147
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: Doesn't feel like twenty minutes right now? What? What? What?

1148
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: How many seconds? You gotta you gotta get you gotta

1149
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: give Dann credit. It wasn't funny until like the twelfth second,

1150
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: so you need it all. It's like the step on

1151
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: the rake. It's not the first time the second. It's

1152
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: the third time the guy steps on the rake that

1153
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: it's funny. All right, everybody, have a great weekend. We'll

1154
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: be back on I think Monday, Monday with the show.

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Speaker 1: So enjoy the weekend. Be careful out there. I love yourself.

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Speaker 1: He the call s