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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty Armstrong and

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Speaker 1: Jetty and he Armstrong and Yetty.

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Speaker 2: My son and I finished the Netflix mini series Death

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Speaker 2: by Lightning about the assassination of James Garfield, which is

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Speaker 2: way more entertaining than you might guess if you just

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Speaker 2: heard that description. But one of the things that happens

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Speaker 2: after President Garfield is assassinated or shot before he dies

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Speaker 2: is the vice president who had been involved, Chester A. Arthur,

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Speaker 2: who involved in with some other scumbags and some really

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Speaker 2: really hot rhetoric about the president, was feeling super guilty

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Speaker 2: that they're hot rhetoric about, you know, the equivalent of

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Speaker 2: calling Garfield a Nazi today led to him being shot.

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Speaker 2: And then the argument was, well, no, he was a

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Speaker 2: crazy person that shot him. Yeah, but we put these

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Speaker 2: thoughts in his head with our hot rhetoric. I thought

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Speaker 2: that was pretty interesting given our current times and a

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Speaker 2: lot of the things the politicians say now, where you're

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Speaker 2: putting the thoughts into the heads of crazy people that

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Speaker 2: they are justified in very very violent or awful behavior,

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Speaker 2: right right, And if you're gonna go around calling ice

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Speaker 2: officers Nazis.

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Speaker 3: Some people are gonna, you know, take that seriously, right

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Speaker 3: and worse, just never ending descriptions of them as illegitimate,

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Speaker 3: fake police, masked violence, ignoring the law, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 3: I listened to an absolutely terrific history podcast not long ago.

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Speaker 3: I think you may have two, Jack, but they're talking

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Speaker 3: about how in the nineteen thirties one of the things

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Speaker 3: that the actual Nazis were able to do is whip

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Speaker 3: up the German people about the Germans in the sudetan

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Speaker 3: Land and what was then Czechoslovakia and their horrible, horrible treatment,

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Speaker 3: which is really just fine, and nobody ever thought about

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Speaker 3: it much. There are other groups in Czechoslovaki at the

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Speaker 3: time that were treated worse.

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Speaker 1: And just nobody really did.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't an issue, but the political leadership said to

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Speaker 3: the newspapers, no, this is the issue.

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Speaker 1: You'll write about it all the time.

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Speaker 3: You'll tell the heart rending stories, you will whip the

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Speaker 3: people up into hatred for the Czechs because of the

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Speaker 3: way they treat our fellow German speakers, And sure enough

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Speaker 3: turned into a huge issue and a pretext to launch

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Speaker 3: a world a war which turned into a world war.

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Speaker 1: So it works.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you could be completely against Trump's policies regarding

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Speaker 2: booting out illegals and ice enforcement and all that sort

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Speaker 2: of stuff and come way short of calling them Nazis

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Speaker 2: and a lot of things other people are saying, including

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Speaker 2: people in positions of power, which is what we're leading

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Speaker 2: up to here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, the Sheriff of Philadelphia, one Rachelle bill aw made

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Speaker 3: a statement on Friday. I think it was that we

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Speaker 3: played at the time, and it is one of the

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Speaker 3: most extraordinary things I've ever heard any law enforcement officers say,

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Speaker 3: practically any human being say, let's hear it, Michael.

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Speaker 4: This should not have happened. But we're here today. Let

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Speaker 4: know that law enforcement professionals, real ones, not the fake,

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Speaker 4: made up ice, probably Trump's new army to attack citizens

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Speaker 4: of the United States.

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Speaker 1: Did you hear what I said?

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Speaker 4: No law enforcement professional wears a mask. None.

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Speaker 5: None.

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Speaker 1: And so we stand.

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Speaker 4: Here today with all those who stand against the made up,

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Speaker 4: fake which you can call ice. Professional law enforcement. I

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Speaker 4: don't call them none of that. I call them ate

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Speaker 4: up fake want to be law enforcement because what they

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Speaker 4: do is against not only legal law, but tomorrow law.

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Speaker 4: If any of them. Want to come in this city

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Speaker 4: and commit a crime, you will not be able to hide.

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Speaker 4: Nobody would wish you off. You don't want to smoke,

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Speaker 4: because we will bring it to you.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, she went heavy on no re

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Speaker 3: law enforcement wears masks.

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Speaker 1: Nobody nobody. On the front.

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Speaker 3: Page of her own website, there are several cops, including

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Speaker 3: one wearing a mask.

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Speaker 2: So, but what's the whole fake made up again? You

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Speaker 2: can be as against this policies you want to be.

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Speaker 2: But we we have something called immigration customs enforcement. We

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Speaker 2: have many, many illegals in this country. We need to

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Speaker 2: figure out how to deal it.

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Speaker 1: We have laws. It's not done.

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Speaker 2: They have fake made up organization. It's existed I don't

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Speaker 2: remember how long, but a long time.

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Speaker 3: Well, and they have while they have a limited jurisdiction,

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Speaker 3: they absolutely have federal policing power one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Of course, she doesn't know

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Speaker 1: what she's talking about.

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Speaker 3: She's just whipping up her or uneducated acolytes into the

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Speaker 3: fervor because that's useful politically.

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Speaker 1: But she's a moron for what it's worth.

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Speaker 3: The Philly Police Department, in contrast to the sheriff's department

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Speaker 3: said she's not in charge of municipal policing, and the

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Speaker 3: city's police officers would continue to work in conjunction with

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Speaker 3: other law enforcement officers moving forward.

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Speaker 1: Well there's a grown up. Yeah, here's another one.

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Speaker 3: ICE Director Todd Lyons, responding to the Philly Sheriff's threat

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Speaker 3: to arrest officers if they came to town.

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Speaker 6: This increased rhetoric is what's causing the issues right now.

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Speaker 1: You can't pit.

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Speaker 6: A local law enforcement office against a federal law enforcement officer.

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Speaker 6: We are out there trying to do a lawful law

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Speaker 6: enforcement mission, and this rhetoric right here is pure example

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Speaker 6: of what we're facing every day. And you know, I'm

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Speaker 6: not one for like big you know, banter or bluster.

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Speaker 6: But my message to the sheriff is try it. Try

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Speaker 6: arrest my folks. Let's see what happens.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh boy, we don't want that.

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Speaker 3: No, No, what is he say? We're not gonna get it.

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Speaker 3: She's just mouthing off. What an idiot?

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Speaker 1: What did you hear what I said?

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Speaker 2: But what is he suggesting that I s? What should

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Speaker 2: they get into a gunfight? If somebody tries to arrest,

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Speaker 2: then what's supposed to happen, the Great Philadelphia Skirmish.

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Speaker 1: It'll be known as no, it's it's never gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to smoke, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, So there are a thousand more border patrol agents

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Speaker 2: that are going to be sent to Minneapolis. The lot

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Speaker 2: of the protests are about our immigration policy. I mean

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Speaker 2: the one that I saw in my town yesterday. I

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Speaker 2: was looking at the signs. It's basically that we shouldn't

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Speaker 2: enforce our immigration policy, which is fine, you get to

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Speaker 2: have that opinion. But it's interesting that so, well, I

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Speaker 2: guess that's what that's what you believed all along, and

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Speaker 2: then this woman getting shot in the head.

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Speaker 3: Gave you more some how connect the in your mind

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Speaker 3: excessive use of force as just a further illustration of

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Speaker 3: how brutal and wrong it all is. These people never

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Speaker 3: spell it out, They just shout emotionally, so it's difficult

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Speaker 3: to figure what their their process.

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Speaker 1: Their thought process is.

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Speaker 2: If your policy is all the illegals should stay here,

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Speaker 2: that's nuts. That will say so nuts, so policy, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that you should just say it out loud.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And then there are the people that this is

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Speaker 1: not polling well.

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Speaker 2: By the way I said, the most recent poll, only

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Speaker 2: like twenty five percent of Americans approve of the way

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Speaker 2: Ice is doing is a business right now. Of course,

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Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't help that the media is almost

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Speaker 2: one hundred on making it look as awful as possible.

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Speaker 3: But well, and Donald Jay is he confronts confrontation with

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Speaker 3: higher confrontation. That's really his one play in the playbook.

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Speaker 3: And so you have, God, forgive me for the cliche,

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Speaker 3: a perfect storm of you have the lefty activists love

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Speaker 3: the ratcheting up. You have Donald Jay who's just he's

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Speaker 3: like a pig and slop, and then you have the

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Speaker 3: media which is so excited to have blood, blood and

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Speaker 3: violence to show on the TV. So right when we

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Speaker 3: from a officer that was standing in front of her

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Speaker 3: car came out, and I thought, oh, okay, this is

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Speaker 3: the end of it. Then we'll stop talking about the

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Speaker 3: well at least we'll stop talking about the whether he

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Speaker 3: was justified or not or thought he was going to

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Speaker 3: be run over ay thing. I thought that video ended

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Speaker 3: that conversation, but it did not. I was still watching

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Speaker 3: over the weekend. Your media outlets still only show that

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Speaker 3: one video that from the very first video that came out.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot more confusing. And you know, you could

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Speaker 2: if somebody's.

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Speaker 3: If they're picking their facts to fit their narrative. My god, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's it's utterly unsurprising. Frankly, Ah, I was kind of surprised.

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Speaker 3: I thought that video that came out Friday. I thought, Okay,

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Speaker 3: actually haven't seen that video since I watched it on

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Speaker 3: my phone Friday morning. I don't think I've seen it

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Speaker 3: on any news site. It's your capacity, that it's capacity

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Speaker 3: to be continually surprised that makes you so charming. Why

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Speaker 3: there was something like two thousand, two thousand ice arrests

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Speaker 1: But anyway, it was.

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Speaker 3: You know, in the single thousands, and nobody seemed to

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Speaker 1: Very nearly ate a piece of apple pie on Saturday night,

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Speaker 2: I was in a situation where somebody who had gone

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Speaker 2: having heard me talk about it. Oh, and I thought,

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Speaker 3: Big new poll out says twenty four percent of Americans

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Speaker 3: But let's break those numbers down and then you get

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Speaker 2: Yeah. For women, Imagine when you're biologically designed to have

442
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Speaker 2: and raise a child and then you don't do that,

443
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Speaker 2: where's all that energy going to go?

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Speaker 3: Well, and to get a little more specific, imagine you're

445
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Speaker 3: designed to nurture and protect other humans, specifically your children,

446
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Speaker 3: to the point that you would willingly die for them.

447
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 3: And then you don't have any children and have to

448
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 3: direct that instinct somewhere. Well, it turns out what makes

449
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Speaker 3: white women white liberal women.

450
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Speaker 2: So obviously this does not apply to everyone who chooses

451
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Speaker 2: or can't tell children.

452
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Speaker 1: Oh no, of course not.

453
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Speaker 2: As you direct your energy towards other things. That are worthwhile,

454
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Speaker 2: but some people ain't well right exactly. We're talking about,

455
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Speaker 2: you know, the masses of people. And I'm glad you

456
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Speaker 2: threw that caveat in because to us, we've been doing

457
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Speaker 2: this a long time and that sort of thing is unspoken.

458
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Speaker 3: It goes without saying that. Of course, it's not one

459
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Speaker 3: hundred percent correlation. Practically nothing is, but I'm glad you

460
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Speaker 3: pointed it out. So what makes white liberal women so

461
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Speaker 3: uniquely terrible? And it turns out they're miserable? And you've

462
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Speaker 3: got your twenty twenty four American Family Survey found that

463
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Speaker 3: thirty seven percent of conservative women and twenty eight percent

464
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Speaker 3: of moderate women young women report being completely satisfied with

465
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Speaker 3: their lives. So thirty seven and twenty eight percent for

466
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Speaker 3: liberal women in the same age groups.

467
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Speaker 2: Standard is I have to be completely satisfied with my life.

468
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Speaker 1: That's a pretty high standard. That's a high standard. But among.

469
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Speaker 3: Conservative women it's triple the rate of liberal women, and

470
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Speaker 3: among moderate women it is about two and a half

471
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Speaker 3: times higher. Liberal women are almost three times more likely

472
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Speaker 3: than conservative women to experience loneliness multiple times a week.

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Speaker 3: Among other characteristics, depression among liberal high school girls as

474
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Speaker 3: surge blah blah blah, and the ideological effect on young

475
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Speaker 3: women's happiness holds up even when you control for.

476
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Speaker 1: Age, education, race, and income.

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Speaker 3: Liberal young women are less likely to be integrated into

478
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Speaker 3: core American institutions like marriage, religion, and others which give

479
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 3: meaning directions solidarity to people's lives lonely, negative, disconnected blah

480
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Speaker 3: blah blah. Remembered we came across some really really really

481
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 3: good analysis last year or so about why that might

482
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Speaker 3: be true.

483
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Speaker 1: What's the cause and what's the effect?

484
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Speaker 3: Are you like born liberal and therefore you are miserable?

485
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Speaker 3: Or is it that being liberal makes you miserable? Or

486
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Speaker 3: to what ex said? And nobody's really sure, but I

487
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 3: was delighted. I found what I was looking for, and

488
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Speaker 3: it was this analysis, very very long by Matthew Iglesias.

489
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Speaker 3: But and honestly, the first half of it is substantiating

490
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Speaker 3: what we were just talking about. And he gives a

491
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Speaker 3: bunch of really specific examples and a bunch of different

492
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Speaker 3: issues and attitudes and that sort of thing. But here

493
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Speaker 3: it is mentally processing. Oh and he mentions that he's

494
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Speaker 3: dealt with a fair amount of depression and gotten counseling

495
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Speaker 3: and drugs and all sorts of things. And he's doing

496
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Speaker 3: a lot better now through cognitive behavioral therapy.

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Speaker 1: But I'll just read some to you real quick. Mentally

498
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Speaker 1: progress press, I'm sorry. Take two.

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Speaker 3: Mentally processing ambiguous events with negative spin is just what

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Speaker 3: depression is. You look at something that people have, you know,

501
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: a variety of reactions to, but you are consistently miserable

502
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Speaker 3: about it. And while the findings that liberals are disproportionately

503
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Speaker 3: likely to do it is interesting and important, it's not

504
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Speaker 3: sound practice to celebrate that or to tell them that they.

505
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Speaker 1: Are right to do it.

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Speaker 3: Stop this section, this whole section is called stop encouraging

507
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Speaker 3: people to catastrophize, and he goes into depression and cognitive

508
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Speaker 3: behavioral therapy and taking control of your own emotions. Stop

509
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: saying so and so made me angry by doing X.

510
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 3: Say so and so did X, and I reacted by

511
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Speaker 3: becoming angry. Own your own emotions and your own emotional response.

512
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Speaker 2: I've only ever really done this once in my life.

513
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Speaker 2: I had one job that I hated a lot, and

514
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Speaker 2: a lot of the people there hated it, and I

515
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: got into for several years unfortunately just this. That was

516
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,719
Speaker 2: what we did we we we came to work and

517
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: complained each other about how miserable we were, and it

518
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 2: like became my identity being miserable at this job, and

519
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: it would have been weird to let it go. That's

520
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: like the only time I've ever done that for a

521
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 2: brief period of time, But I can see how you

522
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: could get stuck in that for a lifetime. Of My

523
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: identity is being miserable because of you know, Trump or whatever.

524
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Speaker 1: Exactly.

525
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Speaker 3: Imagine if virtually every political issue was viewed through the

526
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: lens of this is literally a catastrophe. It is a

527
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 3: mortal threat. It is an example of evil trying to

528
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 3: hurt and kill everything I hold dear always, you know,

529
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Speaker 3: ten on the ten scale of Oh my god, this

530
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Speaker 3: is a horror. We must march, We must organized were

531
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 3: justified in breaking law, committing acts of violence because everything

532
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 3: is that serious and horrible. Imagine if you were fed

533
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Speaker 3: that twenty four to seven, you would be miserable too.

534
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I left that job at some point, and then

535
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: when I got away from it, it was very clear

536
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Speaker 2: that I was like really emphasizing how much I hated

537
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: that job, way too much. If I hated so much,

538
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Speaker 2: I should have left or just you know, gone with

539
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: and some job sucks or some people are jerks or whatever,

540
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: and breaking out of it. But I just I always

541
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Speaker 2: remember that that being sucked into that vortex of just negativity,

542
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: and you know, and if you grew up in a

543
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: house like that, you might not be able to ever

544
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Speaker 2: break out of it.

545
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Speaker 3: And final thought, and he quotes an article from a

546
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Speaker 3: last year about students at McAllister College trying to block

547
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Speaker 3: and exhibition by an Iranian American artist. This incident is

548
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Speaker 3: part of a pattern of left wing social justice concepts

549
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 3: being invoked to support right wing religious sentiments held by

550
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Speaker 3: minority religious groups and ending up in conflict with Western feminists,

551
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: you know, the whole queers for Palestine thing. But then

552
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: they point out that since the nineties, especially progressive institutional

553
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: leaders have specifically taught young progressives that catastrophizing is a

554
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Speaker 3: good way to get what they want, and I quote,

555
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 3: I'm increasingly convinced that there are tremendously negative long term consequences,

556
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Speaker 3: especially to young people, coming from this reliance on the

557
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: language of harm and accusations that things one finds offensive

558
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 3: are quote deeply problematic, or events and words are violent

559
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 3: just about everything. Researchers understand about resilience and mental mental

560
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: well being suggest that people who feel like they are

561
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 3: the chief architects of their own life to mix metaphors

562
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 3: that they can in their own ship. They're not simply

563
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: being tossed about on an uncontrollable ocean, are vastly better. Often,

564
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: people whose default position is victimization hurt in a sense

565
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: that life happens to them and they have no control

566
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Speaker 3: over their response. It is a short road to misery

567
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: to look at life that way, but it is enormously

568
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: useful politically, fundraising, organizing, that sort of thing, to constantly

569
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Speaker 3: convince people they're in the midst of a catastrophe.

570
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. Man, if you saw that video where

571
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Speaker 2: the dead woman's wife, you.

572
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Speaker 1: Gotta bring it on, big boy. I don't think you've

573
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: got a big boy. You better pack a lunch or whatever.

574
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Speaker 1: She said. Right, What is why you seem like a

575
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: long day just whatever? Oh my god, oh my god.

576
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Speaker 3: People like you, Yeah, smug combativeness and that sort of thing.

577
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Speaker 1: I think this is the answer.

578
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: We have the answer why young, awfuls, affluent white female

579
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Speaker 3: liberals are so miserable. They're fed a constant diet over

580
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 3: in the midst of a horror I don't know one

581
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: more reason to and it's funny. Just as an aside,

582
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 3: vive romas Ramaswami. If he shakes my hand, I check

583
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 3: to see that my watch is still there. I'm not

584
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 3: a huge fan, but he's incredibly bright. He wrote a

585
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: great piece that was published in the Journal about a

586
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 3: week ago or so, saying he is completely off social

587
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: media personally. He's running for the Senate in Ohio, I think,

588
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: and he said, I'm not taking in a single word

589
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: online about what people think or want or believe about

590
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: their lives. I'm just going around and talking to people.

591
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Speaker 3: That's probably said the difference is stark. I don't doubt that.

592
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I know a few people in my life

593
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: who are very very online, and their view of the

594
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: world is so distorted from reality.

595
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Speaker 1: It's amazing.

596
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's highly troubling. Bob Weird died over the weekend.

597
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Speaker 2: We'll check in on that, among other things. Thanks coming up.

598
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Speaker 5: Born in the Bay Area, Weird joined the band that

599
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 5: would become The Grateful Dead in nineteen sixty five as

600
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 5: a teenage guitarist after a chance meeting with co founder

601
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 5: Jerry Garcia. Bobby, you were sixteen when you first heard

602
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 5: Jerry Garcia playing banjo and palo alto.

603
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep.

604
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: The Grateful Dead band been around for sixty years, and

605
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: their other lead singer, not Jerry Garcia, died over the weekend,

606
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: Bob Weir age seventy eight. I assumed he was sick

607
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: of some sort based on some of the announcements they've

608
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Speaker 2: made recently with concerts and that sort of stuff. And

609
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Speaker 2: I saw one of their finals shows a year or

610
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: so ago, and it was fantastic, Dead in company with

611
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: John Mayer taking over the Jerry garciro. Can you go

612
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: on without Bob Weir?

613
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Speaker 1: You can't, can you? No?

614
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Speaker 8: You just openly say, hey, we're a tribute band, right,

615
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 8: interesting because they're printing money, I mean, just insane amounts

616
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Speaker 8: of money. Yeah, without Jerry Garcia, probably more money than

617
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Speaker 8: they ever made in their history.

618
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Speaker 3: Can you imagine as a musician, somebody's saying to twenty

619
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Speaker 3: three year old you, by the way, you're going to

620
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Speaker 3: make the most money in your seventies from music, Yeah, yeah,

621
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: from music, and you're thinking, what happened?

622
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Speaker 1: How's that going to work?

623
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Speaker 2: So I remember reading about this he got kicked out

624
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: of a band once, like when they were already really popular,

625
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: because Jerry Garcia didn't think he was a good enough

626
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: guitar player, like Learn Your Parts. Kicked him out and

627
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: he had to go practice up and got let back in.

628
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Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting.

629
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well fair enough, you suck to your child, get

630
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Speaker 3: out of here.

631
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

632
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Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier our friend Tim Sanderfer's got new book

633
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: about the Declaration of Independence coming out in April, and

634
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: I'm excited about it. But Tim had said to me

635
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: when I was talking to him a while back about books,

636
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: about how nobody reads anymore, and he was he hit

637
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: me with some stats on book sales and stuff like

638
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: that that are just freaking highly troubling. Somebody was talking

639
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: to some of the other day about reading Ulysses, which

640
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: I am and I'm almost done with, and they said,

641
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: you might be among the last people who ever read that,

642
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: And that's probably true. It's considered one of the greatest

643
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: books ever written.

644
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Speaker 1: But there are very many people that are going to

645
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Speaker 1: read it in the future.

646
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Speaker 2: And I talked a couple of weeks ago about this

647
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: piece I read that I think is true that the

648
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: age of literacy is coming to an end. I mean,

649
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 2: it's just statistically true. And it only lasted three hundred years.

650
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Speaker 2: Mass literacy where the mass of humanity read books didn't

651
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Speaker 2: happen until about seventeen hundred and it ended a couple

652
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 2: of years ago. And we're on the dwn Neil side.

653
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Speaker 1: It only lasted three hundred years and it's going to

654
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Speaker 1: be over soon.

655
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Speaker 3: Well, let me quit a little bit with equating literacy

656
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Speaker 3: with reading books.

657
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: Can we separate those twas probably should? But reading books

658
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: is coming to an end. It only lasted three hundred years,

659
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Speaker 2: and uh, I can't I can't believe that that's Okay,

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Speaker 2: We're good, but there's no stopping it. It's just it's

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Speaker 2: it's definitely happening if it hasn't already happened.

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Speaker 1: Now is it?

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Speaker 2: A bookstore the other day, still packed full of books

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Speaker 2: that nobody buys because it costs like nothing to print them.

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Speaker 1: Uh, but one that was on what on the table?

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Speaker 2: You know, they put some stuff out on the table,

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Speaker 2: like the candy books that they hope people will buy

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Speaker 2: that are like Shares memoir. And this is what grabbed

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Speaker 2: my attention about Shares Memoir. Page Flipper the memoir Part

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Speaker 2: one is what it says on it. This is aw

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Speaker 2: It's like six hundred pages long and it's you need

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Speaker 2: two parts to tell that.

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Speaker 1: Story shares kids don't want the two parter. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some hot pictures of her in there, though

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize she was a teen model.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it interesting though that the whole book thing for

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Speaker 2: human beings only.

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Speaker 1: Lasted three hundred years now it's over. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think we're just going to become more and more

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Speaker 3: shallow clearly as a species.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, clearly. But there's no turn in that back. And

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Speaker 1: we got more on the way.

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Speaker 2: If you miss a second, we get the podcast Armstrong

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Speaker 2: and Getty on demand

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Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty