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Speaker 2: I want like you know, your insight into this in

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Speaker 2: regards to like you know, as I mentioned, it was

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Speaker 2: a very transitional period where a lot of people were

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Speaker 2: kind of like concerned were Rapple was headed. And it

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Speaker 2: feels like y'all made a very strong statement album. So

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Speaker 2: where were y'all at at the time where y'all kind

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Speaker 2: of formulated had the brainch out for this album?

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Speaker 1: Man, So the title we originally wanted to call an

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Speaker 1: album before we signed with Atlanta, So sixty percent of

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Speaker 1: this album, about six percent of this album was already

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Speaker 1: done when we finally did the deal with Atlantic. We

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Speaker 1: had met with Warner Brothers, we had met with JIB.

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Speaker 1: We actually wanted to sign with Jive vers lightly rest

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Speaker 1: in Peace, but uh Bennie b who owns ABB Records,

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Speaker 1: he ultimately had to find new Say because we were

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Speaker 1: signing him for three albums and the listener is just

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Speaker 1: the first one, so he ultimately had to find new Say.

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Speaker 1: That's how we ended up at Atlantic, But for us,

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Speaker 1: we you know, we wanted to call it Aurbum Nigga music. Originally, yeah,

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Speaker 1: acronym or was just no straight interesting, that's interesting. But

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Speaker 1: once we you know, did the deal with Atlantic, we

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Speaker 1: was like, all right, that's not gonna work. So so

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Speaker 1: we had to, you know, kind of figure out another title,

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Speaker 1: and Fante came with the Menstry Show, and the whole

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Speaker 1: idea behind the album was, you know, the talking points.

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Speaker 1: You know, we know what the minstry show is for

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Speaker 1: those that don't know white people, you know, dressed up

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Speaker 1: in black face and perform these character routines of you know,

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Speaker 1: what they depicted black black people of black life to be.

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Speaker 1: That's the quick quick views. Go much deeper than that,

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Speaker 1: but that's the quick quick synopsis. But uh, we just

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Speaker 1: felt that music, as you stayed in music, like rap

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Speaker 1: music in general, was getting to a point where they

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Speaker 1: were just always looking for people that were character character character.

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Speaker 1: I can't even caricature there. You gop want to say,

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Speaker 1: characters of of what black culture was, you know, and

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Speaker 1: you know, you that's around the time you were seeing

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Speaker 1: videos of folks jumping on tables, you know, trying to

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Speaker 1: get a deal, jumping on the on the tables and

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Speaker 1: ship just doing our type of monkey ship and yeah

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Speaker 1: and so you know.

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Speaker 2: What say.

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Speaker 1: Talking about. So it was just one of them things

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Speaker 1: for us, but we just wanted to speak on it.

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Speaker 1: And but by speaking on it, we didn't you know.

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Speaker 1: I think people had this expectation that when they press

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Speaker 1: play on the album, we was gonna be talking, yo,

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Speaker 1: I don't like this shit. I don't like this shit.

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Speaker 1: I don't like this shit. And that's not what we did.

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Speaker 1: We just gave an example of what we felt good

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Speaker 1: music is was at the time and what it could be,

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Speaker 1: and that's what the album was. So the title threw

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Speaker 1: people off. The fact we wouldn't just openly talking about

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Speaker 1: people crazy threw people off. But that was a sentiment,

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Speaker 1: a sentiment that obviously other people felt. That's a year

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Speaker 1: later the hip hopers they had from NAS came, so

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Speaker 1: other people also, you know, were feeling this way. I

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Speaker 1: think the biggest thing for us was that it was

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Speaker 1: to people was bad form us doing our major label debut,

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Speaker 1: and for some people the first time they ever heard

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Speaker 1: of us, and the first time they hear of us,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about, Yo, this this music is a

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Speaker 1: fucking mystery show, you know what I mean, and and

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Speaker 1: I think it. You know, people just looked at it

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Speaker 1: like it was bad form, but you couldn't deny the

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Speaker 1: music though. I think them their perception of what the

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Speaker 1: album was probably fucked up their whole listening experience. But

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Speaker 1: the album to this day is undeniable. And that's all

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Speaker 1: we wanted to do, from Album one to the album done,

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Speaker 1: was make undeniable music. You can say, this isn't my

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Speaker 1: cup of tea, this isn't the genre I listen to,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'd rather hear you know, some fantasy type shit,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is you want to hear. You can say that,

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Speaker 1: but you can't say them Boys was whack or they

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Speaker 1: made a whack album. And that was just our whole

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Speaker 1: goal was just to speak speak on you know, make

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Speaker 1: a dope album show we could still be us even

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Speaker 1: on the major label, and uh, just speak to the

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Speaker 1: times that we felt the music was in the place

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Speaker 1: music was in at the time, you know, black music,

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Speaker 1: specifically