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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 2: dot Com, Apple podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 4: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 4: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I fucking love him. I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 5: Let's hear that, birth.

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Speaker 6: Brankers.

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Speaker 5: There are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artist.

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Speaker 4: Here're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: To be back in the United States of America.

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Speaker 7: It is Monday, November one, twenty twenty one, Episode three

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Speaker 7: twenty three of The Annak and Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 6: We have got so much to do today, Ken Flow.

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Speaker 7: I don't have anything super witty or funny to say

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Speaker 7: off the top, but it's nice to see it. Man

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Speaker 7: back home and Charlotte there as I can see, Yes, Sir, yes, sir,

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Speaker 7: good to see you as well.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 7: So for these PFL millionaires, so they get a purse

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Speaker 7: leading up to the event, so they clear, well, I

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Speaker 7: guess it's the gross, but that one million dollar at

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Speaker 7: check is just for that night, correct.

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Speaker 8: Yes, that's my understanding, which is which is pretty amazing.

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Speaker 6: We had some great fights on Wednesday night.

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Speaker 8: You know, the Ray Cooper and Maga med Karamov fight

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Speaker 8: was just ridiculous. But you know, the story for me

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Speaker 8: was Bruno Capolosa, a Brazilian fighter.

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Speaker 6: You know, it was just so dominant all season, was

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Speaker 6: in a war in the.

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Speaker 8: Championship fight against Aunte Dillia, one of crow Cops proteges,

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Speaker 8: and his father died just three days ago, three days

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Speaker 8: before he competed, and they had to keep it from him.

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Speaker 8: They had to keep it a secret, and he only

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Speaker 8: found out after he got the check and the belt,

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Speaker 8: and it was just a wild Now I can't even

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Speaker 8: imagine the roller coaster emotions that he had to go

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Speaker 8: through that night, but just wow, that was a story

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Speaker 8: that really stuck out. But yeah, it was a great

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Speaker 8: night of fights, mad a great week of fights, and

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Speaker 8: of course the UFC album Dobby was just ridiculous.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, two sixty seven was unbelievable. Is it raush Manfio?

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Speaker 7: Is that his name?

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Speaker 8: So haush Manfield fought at one hundred and fifty five pounds.

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Speaker 8: He won Bruno Capoloza. Sorry, it was the heavyweight that

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Speaker 8: won and lost his father just a few days before

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Speaker 8: he competed.

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Speaker 6: Got it.

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Speaker 7: So I was talking to Pahoopa about Housho also is

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Speaker 7: a new millionaire and just incredible, right, a guy who

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Speaker 7: was an alternate and not a part of the tournament.

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Speaker 7: And for Antonio Carlos Junior, who had to deal with

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Speaker 7: some misfortune and some injuries throughout his UFC career, the

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Speaker 7: fact that Cho faces a goddamn millionaire as we sit

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Speaker 7: here late twenty twenty one, it's just absolutely awesome.

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Speaker 6: So crazy.

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Speaker 8: I believe we called his debut after he came off

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Speaker 8: of The Ultimate Fighter and to see where he's come, man,

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Speaker 8: I remember, you know, talking to him with you on

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Speaker 8: the Boss after one of his bosses in the UFC

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Speaker 8: and kind of cheering him up.

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Speaker 6: And he's one of the nicest guys ever.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 8: To see what he did and how far his skills

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Speaker 8: have come, Uh, was an awesome story.

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Speaker 6: It was awesome to witness, all.

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Speaker 7: Right, so let's get into some of this UFC two

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Speaker 7: sixty seven stuff. Ray Long is going to join us

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Speaker 7: in about twenty five minutes. Of course, if he answers

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Speaker 7: the wake up called James Kraut's coming up in the

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Speaker 7: main event challenge, he will make picks against Ken Flow,

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Speaker 7: seven of them for UFC two sixty eight, and of

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Speaker 7: course Joe Osborne, as his customary for a pay per

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Speaker 7: Viewek will join us. He has predictions, or at least bets,

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Speaker 7: I should say, on the top three fights coming up

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Speaker 7: in UFC two sixty eight this weekend. Man, these back

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Speaker 6: Ken Flow.

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Speaker 7: You know this is something that I don't think will

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Speaker 7: But let us recap uf two six sixty seven for you,

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Speaker 7: and we begin with the meaness. Jedis native, but he's

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Speaker 7: an American citizen now, folks. The Brazil is getting a

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Speaker 7: little bit upset when I say, Danbury, Connecticut, where are

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Speaker 7: Toshera is a Brazilian American, but he moved to Danbury,

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Speaker 7: Connecticut in nineteen ninety nine. What they announce him, he

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Speaker 7: says fighting out of Danbury, Connecticut, USA. He doesn't say

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Speaker 7: fighting out of Danbury, Connecticut, USA. By way of minus

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Speaker 7: jedis Brazil. That of course is neither here nor there.

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Speaker 7: Both nations can lay claim to this champion. But two

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Speaker 7: days before the fight, Kenny, he turns forty, two years

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Speaker 7: of age. As you well know thought John Jones for

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Speaker 7: the belt April twenty fourteen in Baltimore, Maryland and UFC

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Speaker 7: one seventy two and almost one hundred pay per views,

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Speaker 7: and seven years later, with relative ease, Glover to share

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Speaker 6: And is the undisputed UFC light heavyweight chet.

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Speaker 8: It's not fair to Yon Bohovich because he's not forty

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Speaker 8: and he didn't get stronger like Glover Tshery did. Everybody

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Speaker 8: knows when you turn forty you get your old man straight,

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Speaker 8: and that's exactly what happened. It was a huge advantage. No, listen,

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Speaker 8: what a damn story, dude. I remember being on The

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Speaker 8: Ultimate Fighter in what two thousand and four hearing the

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Speaker 8: stories about Glover to share the training partner of Chuck Liddell,

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Speaker 8: and how good he was. He was trying to get

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Speaker 8: his VSA in all this stuff, and to see him

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Speaker 8: finally get into the UFC and finally have this championship

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Speaker 8: opportunity after what over a decade, well over a decade

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Speaker 6: Man, what a performance.

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Speaker 8: You know, sometimes you see these performances from some of

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Speaker 8: this was pretty flawless from Glover to share, he was

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Bohovich essentially had one minute of success where he

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Speaker 7: I'll get out in front of that Iam at the

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Speaker 7: Hilton in New York.

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Speaker 7: Not great, but We're doing the best we can to

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Speaker 7: get this one in the can for you. One tweet

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Speaker 7: came in and there are a lot of angles on this.

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Speaker 7: Behovich to share a fight at Chris cost five to

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Speaker 7: five to five Regarding Glover and Yon, Kenny, when's the

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Speaker 7: last time you've seen a can opener really mess up

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Speaker 7: I believe that's a reference to maybe pulling down on

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Speaker 6: What's going on.

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Speaker 8: Yes, I'm glad you brought this up. This is a

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Speaker 8: great question. You know, a lot of guys they haven't.

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Speaker 8: We don't really see this. Randy Kotor actually used to

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Speaker 6: But it's rare that you see the the double collar.

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Speaker 8: Tie, similar to how you see a plum tie clinch

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Speaker 8: when you're standing up on the feet, and he was

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Speaker 8: doing the doing this against Bohovich from the closed guard position.

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Speaker 8: The weakest part of the body and the end of

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Speaker 8: and it's the weakest part of the body. And it

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Speaker 8: can easily get compromised. It's what you do obviously to

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Speaker 8: I thought it was a smart tactic, and to me,

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Speaker 8: it seemed like it definitely had an effect. You saw

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Speaker 8: on the first round first Yon trying to push out

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Speaker 8: He wasn't very efficient from there, and on the second

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Speaker 8: He was just trying to like sneak out. He was

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Speaker 8: jutted forward. He seemed really tight in his traps. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: So Daniel Cormier and I sort of hinted on the broadcast.

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Speaker 7: I said, I hope we'll get some clarity from Bohovich

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Speaker 7: said it was sort of your traditional matileeo rear naked

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Speaker 6: It looked to me.

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Speaker 7: Like maybe it was it was not, but you know,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so sorry, I thought you were talking about the

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Speaker 8: the can opener there. The can opener is a neck crank.

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Speaker 8: it is something that's going to put you out or

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Speaker 8: put you asleep. And I don't know, oh, I mean,

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Speaker 8: that was a very quick tap. A couple things. First

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Speaker 8: of all, if we go back to that can opener.

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Speaker 8: Once again, you could see that Glover to Shira is

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Speaker 8: not your typical human. He is extremely strong. You don't

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Speaker 8: really strong. It could be that Glover was just so

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Speaker 8: damn strong on that submission yet again, that he was

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Speaker 8: It was definitely quicker than your typical tap, but again

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Speaker 6: But if you don't know the story, and most of

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Speaker 6: That he's gonna have to deal with that.

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Speaker 6: So before we get there, Uriprohaska is going to be next.

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Speaker 6: Perhaps you disagree. I love the fact that Glover's.

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Speaker 6: Do you have anything for us on that.

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Speaker 8: Yeerie doesn't have much experience. Okay, he's not great on

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Speaker 8: congratulations to Glover, to Shia, mister congeniality, you know, truly

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Speaker 8: And I do think that Yombohovich will be back and

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Speaker 7: Good residue for yan Behovich that has come from this

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Speaker 7: how he will match up with Yuri Prohaska. All right,

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Speaker 7: we had another title fight. UFC Interim bantam Weight belt

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Speaker 7: I saw Michael Chandler push out a tweet that said,

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Speaker 7: And I would respond, I would say, no, we did not, Michael.

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Speaker 7: It's great fight, great fight, I mean, instant, classic, sure,

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Speaker 7: And we got plenty of plenty of praise for Corey

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Speaker 6: But dude, pyodr Yan is unbelievable. What do you have

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Speaker 8: Oh listen, Yeah, it wasn't the best title fight in

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Speaker 8: I gave it to Corey. I thought he was moving

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Speaker 8: I thought Corey won the second round as well.

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Speaker 7: Hell I'm telling you, man? You know I texted his

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Speaker 7: You know you mean to tell me that this version

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Speaker 7: I shouldn't be speaking in absolutes, but this is one

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Speaker 7: valuable experience for him for sure. But I think you

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Speaker 7: hit on a lot of truths. I just felt like

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Speaker 7: the more significant strikes were mostly Yons and Corey, who

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Speaker 7: said he was going to try to return to form

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Speaker 7: as the volume guy.

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Speaker 6: The volume did sort of dissipate as the fight was going.

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Speaker 8: He gets my Nasty Prick Award, you know, he really

444
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Speaker 8: got that he's got that nasty in him. He is

445
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Speaker 8: an absolute crusher, and you know a lot of times

446
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Speaker 8: you'll see these guys that are super technical, and when

447
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Speaker 8: you have that amount of power, it does make a difference.

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Speaker 8: You know that that ability to throw that hard can

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Speaker 8: be the equivalent you know, one shot can be the

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Speaker 8: equivalent of three or four blows of the other guy.

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Speaker 8: And I think those damaging type strikes were taking its

452
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Speaker 8: toll and adding up for him and his ability to

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Speaker 8: pursue and keep chasing down Corey, you know, takes its

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Speaker 8: toll on you as well. You know, you're throwing everything

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Speaker 8: at someone and that person across from you keeps coming forward,

456
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Speaker 8: keeps pressuring you, keeps landing shots. You know, I thought

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Speaker 8: that choice to fire back to the body with the

458
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Speaker 8: kick was brilliant as well from you on. This is

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Speaker 8: not only a crusher, but a very very intelligent fighter

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Speaker 8: and seems just totally immune to pressure.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 7: Ladice dovation at the way, and by a pretty significant margin,

463
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Speaker 7: was for Pyotr kamzat Chimai have number two, but Yan

464
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Speaker 7: charted a flight of nearly two hundred supporters all came

465
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Speaker 7: in for him and truly truly special fighter, and everybody's

466
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Speaker 7: just blown away. You know, a lot of the higher

467
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Speaker 7: level minds than me on our UFC crew are just

468
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Speaker 7: blown away after every single pyodr Yan fight. And I'm

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Speaker 7: probably not putting it well, but that's sort of the

470
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Speaker 7: emotion for a lot of us walking out of that arena.

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Speaker 7: And as we do handicap a rematch between al Jamaine

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Speaker 7: Sterling and pyodr Yan. I know Yan doesn't even necessarily

473
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Speaker 7: want the fight, but that is going to be the fight.

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Speaker 7: When they met in March of this year at UFC

475
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Speaker 7: two to fifty nine Ken Flow, it was pretty close

476
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Speaker 7: on the betting line. Al Jamaine did out strike pyodr

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Speaker 7: Yan in round one twenty seven to fourteen, even though

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Speaker 7: piodr Yan largely dominated the fight. I think you're looking

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Speaker 7: at Yan at probably a four to one favorite at

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Speaker 7: minimum against al Jamaine Sterling in a rematch. I don't

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Speaker 7: think long goes in the back just yet, so you

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Speaker 7: don't have to be careful with your words. But how

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Speaker 7: do you see that rematch between Sterling and Yan as

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Speaker 7: we look at it.

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Speaker 6: That's gonna be a real tough one, you know.

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Speaker 8: I think in that fight Al Joe was throwing everything

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Speaker 8: at Yan that he could in that first round, and

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Speaker 8: you know, it seemed like it was a pace that

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Speaker 8: wasn't going to be tolerated over the course of you know, three,

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Speaker 8: four or five rounds.

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Speaker 6: So I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I think Aljo can make certain adjustments to be more

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Speaker 8: careful out there. Does he beat Yan at this point

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Speaker 8: from what I've seen? I don't know, Man, I don't

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Speaker 8: think so. And al Joe is a hell of fighter.

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Speaker 8: He's a tremendous grappler that you know is always going

497
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Speaker 8: to be dangerous if he gets you to the ground right.

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Speaker 8: But Yan is just an absolute beast, and you know

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Speaker 8: him being in that top five pound for pound isn't

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Speaker 8: out of the question right now. It's just he's just

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Speaker 8: that good and he's that nasty.

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Speaker 7: If you were to pull the fan base and say

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Speaker 7: you can send any thirty five or in the world

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Speaker 7: in there to beat Pyotr Jan, who are you sending

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Speaker 7: in there? I think ninety percent of the fan base

506
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Speaker 7: would send Corey Sandagan in there. Might get a few

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Speaker 7: votes to Rob font Josealdo kind of been there, done that.

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Speaker 7: Al Jamine Sterling probably would get a few votes. But

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Speaker 7: uh Man Pyodrijan seems a level or so above the

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Speaker 7: other elite bantam weights in the world right now. And

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Speaker 7: I say that with all due respect to the weight class.

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Speaker 7: And I love San Haagen such a good dude, you know.

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Speaker 7: I know obviously cross trains with Ryan Hall. Spent a

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Speaker 7: few weeks or a few days I think with Ryan

515
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Speaker 7: Hall before this fight had even been announced. But uh,

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Speaker 7: San Haagan's a student of the game, He's a young man.

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Speaker 7: Do think he'll be back in a championship setting. You

518
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Speaker 7: just got to hope Yan doesn't get any better between

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Speaker 7: now and then.

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Speaker 6: My god, Oh all right, Kamsa Chimayev, kam Zat fucking Chimayev. Okay.

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Speaker 7: I have been waiting forty eight hours since this fight

522
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Speaker 7: card ended to hear what you have to say about

523
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Speaker 7: this man, because there are a lot of layers, right.

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Speaker 7: I'm not even sure he made weight, right, So when

525
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Speaker 7: you talk about him having to make welterweight fight in

526
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Speaker 7: and fight out and not make one seventy one potentially,

527
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Speaker 7: but make one hundred and seventy pounds, that is a factor.

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Speaker 7: Although you hear different rumblings on the ground like he

529
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Speaker 7: was eating the night before and just kind of messing

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Speaker 7: her out.

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Speaker 6: He's five, you know, so who knows.

532
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Speaker 7: But as a fighter, Kenny, he's one of the most

533
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Speaker 7: dominant forces in the game. And the reason I was

534
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Speaker 7: so excited to see him fight Leon Edwards, a fight

535
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Speaker 7: that went away three times, is because I truly wanted

536
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Speaker 7: to see if his game would translate the way it

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Speaker 7: did against Lee Jing Leong against someone like Leon Edwards,

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Speaker 7: Because candidly, you know, I had some sentiments that maybe

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Speaker 7: a Leon Edwards Shemaya fight might go down similarly to

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Speaker 7: the way this fight went down between Shemaya and Lee

541
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Speaker 7: Jing Leung. What are your thoughts on what Kamzat Chimaya

542
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Speaker 7: was able to do in uh in taking the leeches

543
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Speaker 7: number eleven ranking UH and so much more.

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Speaker 8: I think that it went as expected for the most part.

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Speaker 8: I think this is what an elite fighter with the

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Speaker 8: skills of Hamzat chimayav should have done against Lejingle, right,

547
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Speaker 8: considering the matchup, right, But you know what, is this

548
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Speaker 8: his third UFC fight? You know this is something fourth Okay,

549
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Speaker 8: this is something that you would expect out of a

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Speaker 8: guy who's been in the UFC for a long time,

551
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Speaker 8: who comes from that wrestling background with those submission skills,

552
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Speaker 8: but to see this done in his fourth UFC fight

553
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Speaker 8: is extremely impressive. Now, what I was hoping for in

554
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Speaker 8: the back of my mind was to see allegingly young

555
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Speaker 8: go out there and give him a battle.

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Speaker 6: I wanted to see what would.

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Speaker 8: Happen when Hamza is experiencing adversity, because that's when we

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Speaker 8: really really know. Right in my mind anyway, I want

559
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Speaker 8: to see what happens when that dude gets cracked, what

560
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Speaker 8: happens when he has to come back, what happens when

561
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Speaker 8: you know he's on his back and has to fight his.

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Speaker 6: Way back to get the win.

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Speaker 8: Because as it is right now, he's just been dominating dudes.

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Speaker 8: Now that's also a good thing, because perhaps he's just

565
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Speaker 8: that damn good and he's five levels above everyone else.

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Speaker 8: We don't have those answers quite yet. I want to

567
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Speaker 8: see him against high level competition. I think he deserves it.

568
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Speaker 8: But as of right now, he's just going out there

569
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Speaker 8: and playing with guys. Literally, I mean, he's picking you

570
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Speaker 8: up in the air and he's talking to Dana White

571
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Speaker 8: outside the cage, you know, similar to what Habib did

572
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Speaker 8: in his like thirteen fight in the US see, you know.

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Speaker 6: So it's this guy. It seems like he's at a

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Speaker 6: different level.

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Speaker 8: He's combining, you know, both his ability to entertain, his

576
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Speaker 8: ability to say the right things on the mic, and

577
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Speaker 8: his ability to go out there and do exactly what

578
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Speaker 8: he said he's going to do, yeah, in a fight.

579
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Speaker 8: So he is, as it is right now, he's something special.

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Speaker 8: I want to see him tested. But I think this

581
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Speaker 8: is someone who can go very, very far, and no

582
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Speaker 8: question about it.

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Speaker 7: And I don't know how much of the broadcast you

584
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Speaker 7: actually heard, but he comes into the fighter meeting and

585
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Speaker 7: he says, I want a war, you know. I want

586
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Speaker 7: to be a part of one of those fights that

587
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Speaker 7: people are talking about for years to come. But obviously

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Speaker 7: that has not materialized. And there were certain historical references

589
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Speaker 7: in leejing Leung's career, like the Jake Matthews fight and

590
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Speaker 7: the Neil Magni fight that weren't great indicators of a

591
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Speaker 7: potential future performance to the positive for Lee Jinglyong. Here,

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Speaker 7: if you catch my drift, if Jake Matthews is controlling

593
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Speaker 7: him on the ground, how's it going to go against

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Speaker 7: Kamza Chimaya that takes a leer Latifi down.

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Speaker 6: I mean John Gooden was telling us about some of

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Speaker 6: these Jim stories. Man.

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Speaker 7: I mean this guy, they can barely find middleweights to

598
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Speaker 7: train with him. He doesn't train with any welter weights

599
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Speaker 7: at all, and he is now ten and zero with

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Speaker 7: ten finishes, right, he will certainly be number eleven in

601
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Speaker 7: the world. But I wouldn't be surprised to see him

602
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Speaker 7: vault to like eight or nine. If I'm being honest

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Speaker 7: with you.

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Speaker 8: We do have a tweet here from CD Carter forty

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Speaker 8: two zero six nine if they were scheduled to fight,

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Speaker 8: who opens as the favor of Kamza Chimayav or Kamara

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Speaker 8: Usman Now right now, Best fight ons dot Com has

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Speaker 8: Kamara Usman minus two hundred Kamza Chimaya plus one point seventy.

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Speaker 8: What do you think they do with Kamza Chimayav if

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Speaker 8: Kamar Usman beats Colby Covington, right, because obviously, if Colby

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Speaker 8: Covington beats Kamara Usman, I think there's gonna be trilogy

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Speaker 8: language in Kamara's con tracked and you're going to see

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Speaker 8: those guys complete that trilogy. So let's bring in Ray

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Speaker 8: Long go into this conversation. But Ken Flow, uh, I'm curious, Raymond.

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Speaker 6: You look good today, my man.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, where are you in New York?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I'm in New York City at the Hilton. Got

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Speaker 6: in last night.

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Speaker 7: I know some of our YouTube commentors don't like it

620
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Speaker 7: when I complain, but I'm pretty jet lagged and I'm

621
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Speaker 7: pretty proud man.

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Speaker 9: You should be. You're the the old, the consummate professional.

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Speaker 9: This is unbelievable. This isn't easy. I mean, Kenny's laughing,

624
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Speaker 9: he thinks something's coming, but I'm really just, uh, what are.

625
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Speaker 6: The odds we can get you to make up? What

626
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Speaker 6: are the odds? We can get you to just center

627
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Speaker 6: up a little bit for the viewers if you could. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: we go, all right.

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Speaker 7: So I just want to start with Kenny on this,

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Speaker 7: and then we have a number of different things that

631
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Speaker 7: we want to get into with you. And it's always

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Speaker 7: great to see you on a Monday morning. But Kenny,

633
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Speaker 7: what do you do with ham zat Chimaya? Because I

634
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Speaker 7: think you strike while the iron's hot. And I know

635
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Speaker 7: fans are gonna think I'm crazy, but Uriy pro Hosk

636
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Speaker 7: is getting a title fight. Granted, there isn't the depth

637
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Speaker 7: of two oh five that there is at one hundred

638
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Speaker 7: and seventy pounds, But if Kamara Usman wins, I'm giving

639
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Speaker 7: sim I have a title shot first quarter twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 6: Gilbert Burns and everybody else. I'm sorry, but that's how

641
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Speaker 6: I feel, you know, a couple things.

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Speaker 8: Okay, I wouldn't give him a title shot just yet,

643
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Speaker 8: but I will say this. I think that a serious

644
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Speaker 8: conversation needs to needs to be had between the UFC

645
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Speaker 8: and his coaches, his team, and himself and say where.

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Speaker 6: Do you want to be?

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Speaker 8: You want to be at one seventy or do you

648
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Speaker 8: want to be at one hundred and eighty five pounds?

649
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Speaker 8: And can you make one hundred and seventy pounds and can.

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Speaker 6: You do it consistently?

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Speaker 8: I think that that's the key, right because listen at

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Speaker 8: one hundred and seventy pounds. For me, on a technical level,

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Speaker 8: I think his path is a more difficult one in

654
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 8: a lot of ways at one five, right, he's got

655
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 8: to be Again, there's some good, you know, grapplers in there,

656
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 8: but I think Hom's got to be at the top

657
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 8: of the pack as far as grapplers go in that

658
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 8: division at one seventy it's not necessarily so clear I

659
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 8: think the level is a little hired one hundred and

660
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 8: seventy pounds than it is one hundred and eighty five,

661
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 8: So I don't know. So I think some questions need

662
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 8: to be answered. What division does he want to be in?

663
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 8: And then well, that.

664
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 7: Question I can answer for you, And maybe isn't coming

665
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 7: from him directly, but his team has sat down with him,

666
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 7: Andreas Michael and everybody else at All Stars. They want

667
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 7: him to be clear intentioned with a singular focus, right

668
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 7: and it looks like right now he might even do

669
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 7: a wrestling match with Jack Hermanson on November ninety that

670
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 7: it's just not at all what his coaches would be

671
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 7: looking for. They want him to be of a singular focus,

672
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 7: and that means chasing a welterweight championship, having legitimate training camps,

673
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 7: not taking short notice fights at eighty five or otherwise.

674
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 7: So that seems to be the vision. I don't know

675
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 7: if he can make ten more times, but I do

676
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 7: think he can make it a few more times.

677
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 6: Ray, what did you make if Chimaiavan? Ultimately? What would

678
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 6: you do with him now at this point at four

679
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 6: and zero in the UFC?

680
00:30:54,240 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, look after this weekend, I mean last weekend, what

681
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 9: are you gonna do? I'm with you, John, I would

682
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 9: I I would like to see him with a top

683
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 9: five guy next and then right to the title.

684
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 6: All right, So what all right called w B caled

685
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 6: w B Stephen Thompson taken that fight?

686
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, w B would take that fight. I think he

687
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 9: would take the fight. But what about who just beat

688
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 9: wonder boy Gilbert Burns?

689
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's what I'm saying. So there three days.

690
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 9: Gilbert Burns and Kamsai No.

691
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 7: I think Burns and Shemaiah in a main event makes

692
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 7: a lot of sense. But Luke is a guy who

693
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 7: you know would not turn down that fight. I'm just

694
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 7: saying though, Like, like, did I was not on social

695
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 7: media all weekend? And I'm not even try to be funny, right,

696
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 7: but like, did our guy Bilal remember the name Muhammad

697
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 7: hop on social media and call for a fight with

698
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 7: Kamzat Chimaya? Are people calling this guy out ken Flow?

699
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 7: Because honestly, he's the biggest fucking fight for you in

700
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 7: the sport right now. Like, if you want the bag

701
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 7: and you want the title, and you're a welterweight contender

702
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 7: and you're Gilbert Darino, Burns, Am I crazy.

703
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 6: I'm not trying to talk like a promoter.

704
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 8: I think if anyway, if I'm Gilbert Burns, I say

705
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 8: give me fucking hamzat let's go. I think ninety percent

706
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 8: of the guys, if they're offered the fight, they're gonna

707
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 8: look behind him, like did I I didn't raise my hand.

708
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 8: I was just I was just saying, but you know,

709
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 8: I don't know, man, Listen, I love the Gilbert Burns idea.

710
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 8: I also love maybe the whoever loses this championship fight

711
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 8: between Uzman and Covington. You know, I think would be

712
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 8: phenomenal to really go against another grapper and be like, hey,

713
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 8: let's see what Let's see what he's all about. So

714
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 8: Gilbert Burns, high level Persida to black belt, Let's see

715
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 8: what that's about. You know, Yeah, I think that would

716
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 8: be a phenomenal fight.

717
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 6: Ray, I guess.

718
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 7: Cody's telling me Bla did call for the fight on

719
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 7: social media, so you know, I mean, his balls go

720
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 7: down to the fucking floor. But I'm just saying, man, like,

721
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 7: it's it's one thing to publicly come out s. Yeah,

722
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 7: I'll fight that guy, you know, Like, but I just

723
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 7: think it's gonna be very interesting.

724
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 9: What do you think, Yeah, John, So we had position

725
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 9: because these I mean the guys, the other guys we

726
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 9: were talking about old ranked Tarya and they want to

727
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 9: keep moving forward, so that that poses a little problem.

728
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 9: It doesn't really make sense for them to be calling

729
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 9: him out at this point. That's why I said I

730
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 9: would try to give him somebody where was like the

731
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 9: Leach ranked where was his eleven?

732
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 6: Eleven?

733
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 9: Eleven?

734
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 6: Yes, then you got to jump them up.

735
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,479
Speaker 7: I'm just saying, man, I mean, I mean km's out.

736
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 7: Chimayav moves a lot of needles. I mean, I think

737
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 7: he got more Instagram followers than the champion, the number

738
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 7: one pound for pound fighter in the sport, Kamara Ousman. Yeah,

739
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 7: I mean, I know Gilbert Burns would absolutely, unequivocally take

740
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 7: the fight. But the whole notion that Gilbert would have

741
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 7: pause as the number two guy in the world is

742
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 7: silly because SHEI, Maayav's the biggest fight in the division, right,

743
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 7: other than a title fight. And if you want a

744
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 7: title fight and you're Gilbert Burns, right, and you had

745
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 7: your title fight and then you go beat WB and

746
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 7: wonder Boy is one of the worst matchups for most

747
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 7: of these guys in the division. You want a title

748
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 7: fight again, all you need to do is go beat

749
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 7: Kamsa CHIMAIAV and I guarantee you're getting it.

750
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 9: Wow. Look, I'm sure Dane is all over. This is

751
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 9: Danea's type of guy.

752
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 6: Man.

753
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 9: The guy wants to fight any place, anytime. You'll take

754
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 9: five fights in the year, So you're gonna see him

755
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 9: move quickly regardless of anything. He's gonna be you know,

756
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 9: within the next six months, major things are going to happen,

757
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 9: I would think with him because he's ready to go.

758
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 9: And that's like again, that's Dana's type of guy man.

759
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 9: He'll he will. They're gonna look for the good matchups

760
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 9: like they do with everybody else. They're building up. So yeah,

761
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 9: I don't I don't think you're going to see him

762
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 9: against a really good wrestling next, but it'll be somebody

763
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 9: with a ranking.

764
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, And I'm sure there's gonna be a

765
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 7: lot of people fire and darts my way because of

766
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 7: this take. But certainly when we finish getting off the

767
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 7: air after a show like this flow at USC sixty seven, Like,

768
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 7: what do you think we're talking about at the bar,

769
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 7: We're talking about the fights. Obviously, we're talking about this guy,

770
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 7: and everybody's asking me, oh, who's next? And a title shot?

771
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 7: Title Tom the fuck out. I don't want to hear

772
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 7: anything else, but.

773
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 6: Hey, obviously, yeah, go ahead, no, go ahead.

774
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 9: I think the fans are just wondering if this is

775
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 9: you talking or the jet leg talking. I think that's

776
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 9: what they're trying to decipher right now.

777
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 7: Hey, man, if Kolby Covington wins, which is a distinct

778
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 7: possibility six days from now, I think you're going to

779
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 7: see them do the trilogy. But if kamar Usman wins,

780
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 7: is he going to rematch Gilbert Burns? Is he going

781
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,959
Speaker 7: to fight his best friend? Vicente Lukeno Luk I guess

782
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 7: is not his best friend, but they do have a relationship.

783
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 7: I mean, who's kamar Usman defending the belt first quarter

784
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 7: twenty twenty two. He's not moving up to fight out

785
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 7: a Sonya. I mean, who's he fighting? It's fighting fucking

786
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 7: Kamsa Chimaya. I think I don't know.

787
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 9: Man, Thinking on the plane, I'm starting to think I'm.

788
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 6: Drinking on the plane.

789
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 3: You're drinking.

790
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 7: No, I mean a lot of recreational drugs, uh, And

791
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 7: I prefer over alcohol.

792
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 9: Guys, holy right, like like a mad scientist over there,

793
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 9: you look different today.

794
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 7: I'm very excited because, as a lot of our listeners know,

795
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 7: I do train with with Gilbert's strengthen conditioning coaches, So

796
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 7: I'm very excited to get back to the Institute of

797
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 7: Human Performance with my guy Rio J C. Santana and

798
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 7: see what they say about Gilbert fighting Hamza Chimaya, because

799
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 7: I really do believe if you're Gilbert Burns and you

800
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 7: want to expedite a title fight, you call for a

801
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 7: fight what she might have and maybe our guy blab

802
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 7: will get it. You just never know, right, Hey, Ray,

803
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 7: we have a lot to get to with you, so

804
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 7: we'll all try to be efficient. I know I've been

805
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 7: largely inefficient all day today. But I want to get

806
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 7: your thoughts on Pyotrian and Corey Sanhagen because when I

807
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 7: watched Pyotryan, you know, he looks like the best one

808
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 7: hundred and thirty found thirty five pound fighter that I've

809
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 7: ever seen.

810
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 9: I think that was a beautiful first of it was

811
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 9: a great fight. Hats off to Corey too. I thought

812
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 9: he would see that the pressure of pedon is just

813
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 9: suffocating at this point and he could take a shot

814
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 9: and he can give it, and he hits like a mule,

815
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 9: so he is This was a great fight for Pedon.

816
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't think he could not like him

817
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 9: after his fight, but he's been he'd just suffocated him.

818
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 9: The first round looked great for Corey. I thought he

819
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 9: was being able to keep that up. I definitely think

820
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 9: it was a closer fight than the scores indicate, you know,

821
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 9: but he'd one hundred percent won the fight. But uh yeah,

822
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 9: he's just he looked great. He there's nothing. I don't

823
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 9: think there's not a negative you could say about this guy.

824
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 9: At this point. He looked really really this this was

825
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 9: a good fight for him because it's styles make fights.

826
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 9: And I thought Corey, you know, with the movement and

827
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 9: the length and the angles, would pose a problem. And

828
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 9: it did for like five minutes, and then it just

829
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 9: he suffocates you. He's got a really suffocating style and

830
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 9: he's good everywhere.

831
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 7: And you will be the coach that is charged with

832
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 7: now preparing his next opponent, al Jamaine Sterling. I mean,

833
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 7: at least you get twenty five minutes a new film.

834
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 7: I'm Piotr jam but I'd imagine you're you're excited for

835
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 7: that challenge sometime first or second quarter next year.

836
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, that challenge just became bigger after this. Yeah, he

837
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 9: looked really really good. Yeah, you know, so all right,

838
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 9: so for it.

839
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 7: Though for sure, I'm sort of bemoaning the fact that

840
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 7: we're forty or so minutes into the show and we

841
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 7: haven't mentioned Isla Makashchev. So I do want to get

842
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 7: to Islam, and then we can get to this whole

843
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 7: referee situation with Elizio Zeleski, Do Santos and Benoi st

844
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 7: Denis Islama Kashev makes quick work of Dan Hooker with

845
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 7: a canmore to twenty five of round one Ken Flow.

846
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 7: It seemed like there was a protest from Dan Hooker,

847
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 7: sort of intimating let him break my arm. At first,

848
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 7: I was sort of wondering if there was like a

849
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 7: verbal tap, and then Dan was like, why didn't you

850
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 7: stop it when I said tap? But that was not

851
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 7: the case. I think Dan really wanted to go out

852
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 7: on a shield, but thankfully he didn't because he'll sort

853
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 7: of not have as extended a delay in return it

854
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 7: the competition. But Ken Flo, what are your thoughts on

855
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 7: Makashev Holden Serve is a big favorite against Hooker.

856
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 8: Well that's that's precisely why you have a referee in

857
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 8: there to save the fighter from themselves. And he wasn't

858
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 8: going anywhere, right, He was not going to get out

859
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 8: of that right, And Dann, your shoulder would have been broken,

860
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 8: and your elbow would have been broken or something would

861
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 8: have been broken, and then you would have been out

862
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 8: of training for a while, and for a guy who

863
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 8: likes to stay active, you would have been fighting for

864
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 8: a very long time.

865
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 6: So right, it wouldn't have been a good decision. Listen.

866
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 8: You know Dan started out moving latterally. Mahaschef, you know,

867
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 8: was kind of onto. It stopped him from corralling him

868
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 8: with that left hook shot that double leg put him

869
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 8: on his back, and that was Mahaschef's world. Dan pretty

870
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 8: much didn't have a prayer from there, and Mahaschef looked

871
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 8: like the guy that everybody's been talking about to you know,

872
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 8: take the throne from Habib. You know, perhaps maybe even

873
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 8: a better version of Habi, because his striking is that

874
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 8: much sharper, and he retains that wrestling control and those

875
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 8: submission skills that Habib has, so he's a Dan problem uh,

876
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 8: and just looked phenomenal against a guy and Dan Hooker

877
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 8: who can give a lot of people in that division trouble.

878
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 6: Yeah. No one just goes out there and beats Dan

879
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 6: Hooker like that.

880
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 8: Okay, you know so I thought that was a very

881
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 8: impressive performance and this guy, Mahashev just might be a

882
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 8: champ in the near future.

883
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 7: Right There's a lot of selective listening goes on when

884
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 7: it comes to our broadcast, and a lot of people

885
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 7: heard me say over the weekend that Isla Maikashev would

886
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 7: probably be favored right now on the money line to

887
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 7: beat any lightweight in the world. I did not say

888
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 7: he was the best lightweight in the world right now,

889
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 7: but I do believe that he would be favored over

890
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 7: both Charles Olivera and Dustin Pourier. What are your thoughts

891
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 7: on Mikashev and ultimately how would you like to see

892
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 7: the UFC proceed with him?

893
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 9: Well, he definitely would be favored over those guys, for sure.

894
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 9: I agree with that this was his like not really

895
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 9: a test because he's been fighting really well every fight.

896
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 9: But like Kenny said, hook has given a lot of

897
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 9: guys problems A lot of guys haven't gotten him down.

898
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 9: He made this look too easy against him of a guy,

899
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 9: you know what I mean, and it's you know, it's

900
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 9: a little different when you get caught with a shot

901
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 9: that could happen to anybody. But this was more myth

902
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 9: and just you could see the dominance there was this guy.

903
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 9: If he didn't want to tap to that, like again, Kenny,

904
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 9: his shoulder would have been something would have been ripped.

905
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 9: It would have been no good. It still might be

906
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 9: no good because that thing was pretty far back there.

907
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 9: I know my arm's not going back like that. So

908
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 9: pats off to this guy. I mean, you got to

909
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 9: give him a title shot like right away. He earned it, Kenny.

910
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 9: I don't know how I regree. Go ahead, John, Sorry.

911
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 7: No, I know I cut you off. I agree, Kenny.

912
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 7: I mean Chandler and Gates. You are obviously going to

913
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 7: fight in what is the title eliminator sorts this weekend.

914
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 7: But justin Gage's last fight was for the undisputed title.

915
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 7: Michael Chandler's last fight was for the undisputed title. My

916
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 7: sentiments are are aligned with Rays here, and I think

917
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 7: that Islam Makashev's next fight is going to be for

918
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 7: the belt.

919
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 8: What do you think, Yeah, listen, I think he did

920
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 8: exactly what he needed to do. I think not only

921
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 8: based on his performances, but based on who you know,

922
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 8: everyone has faced. I think he deserves that next shot

923
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 8: just as far as who's up next.

924
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 6: Uh, he's put himself in a perfect position, flawless performance. Uh,

925
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 6: let's go.

926
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 9: Yeah, John, There's a difference when you're winning fights and

927
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 9: when you're completely dominating fights. These against really good guys,

928
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 9: they're just the domination is what what makes it for me,

929
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 9: Like it's you've seen nobody do this to these guys before,

930
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 9: and it's they're making them look easier. They have to

931
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 9: be rewarded. The you know, the chech they're not. It's

932
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 9: I think they're out working everybody, you know. I think

933
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 9: all guys are you know, partying and you know they're

934
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 9: on social media. These guys look like they're just no

935
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 9: nonsense in the gym every day, ready to fight at

936
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 9: a drop of the dime. And that's the way it

937
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 9: should be. Man. I admire what they're doing. I'd say

938
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 9: they be They should one hundred percent be rewarded. You know,

939
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 9: Like if if the guys here aren't in that gym

940
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 9: every day, and they they don't deserve to have the

941
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 9: shots these guys have. I believe these guys do the

942
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 9: right thing and the dedication to the sport is shining

943
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 9: through right now.

944
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 7: All right, A couple more things to get to with

945
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 7: the great Ray long Goo. We had a prelimit welterwait

946
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 7: it was Elazio's Aleski do Santos over ben was sant

947
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 7: deny by unanimous decision twenty nine to twenty six times three.

948
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 7: Tweet here from Damian Maya's head coach Eduardo Alonzo can flow.

949
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 7: The UFC, which is the highest level, is not the

950
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 7: place to experiment with referees. What just happened at UFC

951
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 7: two to sixty seven in Abu Dhabi is atrocious, dangerous

952
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 7: and can't be allowed. That ref should protect the fighter's health,

953
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 7: not shorten their lives.

954
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 6: Unbelievable.

955
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 7: And then we have another tweet here ray from at

956
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 7: two sprites. Is it wrong that there are some coaches

957
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 7: that literally don't have the health of their fighter in mind,

958
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 7: like Benja's coach Daniel Warram admitted he would never throw

959
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 7: in the towel.

960
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 6: So a lot to get to there.

961
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 7: Referee just didn't know what he was doing, and then

962
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 7: he takes a quick point from easy Dos Santos. I mean,

963
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 7: the guy hasn't a clue. I don't think he'll be

964
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 7: in a UFC octagon ever again. But Ray, since you're

965
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 7: the coach and the guy who has the ability to

966
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 7: throw in the towel, even if the rules don't implicitly

967
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 7: say that, what were your thoughts on how this all

968
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 7: went out?

969
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 9: Well, I think when he took that point away just

970
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 9: highlighted Yeah, you know that if he didn't take the

971
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 9: point away, it might be even a different conversation. But

972
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 9: when he just he just looked like he wasn't present.

973
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 9: This guy can He just looked like he was having

974
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 9: a great time. Two guys have beaten out out of

975
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 9: each olace. But he took the point though that I

976
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 9: think that's what did it for me. I was like

977
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 9: I was because I watched it after the fact and

978
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 9: everybody was already complaining about it, so I went in

979
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 9: there with a little bias. So it's, uh, it's hard

980
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 9: to say, but look, you have to know your fight.

981
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 9: Obviously there was a time in the fight. Look, everybody's

982
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 9: got to get on the same page right, Like, look,

983
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 9: they could have stopped Morob's fight. Maybe an inexperienced REF

984
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 9: stops that fight. I think it would have been horrible,

985
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 9: you know what I mean. So everybody's in a weird

986
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 9: sp with this, like DC making a comment like even

987
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 9: if he comes back and wins the fight, it was

988
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 9: the wrong thing to do. Well, what the fuck does

989
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 9: that mean? He comes back and wins the fight? Then

990
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 9: he then he was all right, like I don't even understand.

991
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 9: I know you don't, but it's it's it's the guy

992
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 9: did come back and he was fighting, and I'm not

993
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 9: saying it was wrong not to stop it, you know,

994
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 9: like with that, but like again, yeah, the ref obviously

995
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 9: didn't know anything about anybody, Like I think, you know,

996
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 9: you know Morob, you know he's got the gas tank.

997
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 9: You could put a lot, you know, you're looking at him.

998
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 9: And I talked to Peace and he said, you know,

999
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 9: he responded to everything I said. He did everything I

1000
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 9: wanted him to do, keep that fight moving, which is important.

1001
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 9: So did that ref even have that conversation with these

1002
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 9: two guys, by the way he acted in the octage,

1003
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 9: and I would think not. But you know, look, the

1004
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 9: fight could have been stopped. The corner could have thrown

1005
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 9: it in, I don't know, but it didn't look good

1006
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 9: and made it worse with the ref because you know,

1007
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 9: he everything was based on luck in there at that point,

1008
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 9: you know what I mean, Like he wasn't making a

1009
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 9: conscious decision on anything. So yeah, they could have, they

1010
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 9: should have stopped the fight, but the fact that the

1011
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 9: guy came back was was was tricky. You know. Sometimes,

1012
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 9: you know, Kenny, I'll be honest with you, Sometimes it

1013
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 9: looks like you're getting hit way harder than those punches

1014
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 9: of land and you're turned in a little bit. You

1015
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 9: absorb a shitload a percentage of that power. And I'm

1016
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 9: not saying that's the case here, but if the ref

1017
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 9: was talking to him or you know, I don't know,

1018
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 9: the whole thing looked like a shit showed to me.

1019
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, you know for me, listen, I said, I

1020
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 8: tweeted something similar. But you know, everyone always thinks, you know,

1021
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 8: he got two of the best fighters in the world

1022
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 8: going at it.

1023
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 6: You know, those are the most dangerous guys in the cage.

1024
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 8: Now, most dangerous guy in the cage is an incompetent

1025
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 8: and inexperienced referee, because you know, that's what cuts lives

1026
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 8: and career short. And to me, this guy making his

1027
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 8: UFC debut hurt not once, not twice, you know, And

1028
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 8: this is why I caught him going the other way.

1029
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 6: Ray.

1030
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 8: He was hurt like four or five times, to the

1031
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 8: point where he was doing his best to physically do something,

1032
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 8: but his body wasn't responding. So to me, your brand's

1033
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 8: not working, your body's not working. And then he's getting

1034
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 8: hit again and again and again taking not not like

1035
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 8: little jabs, these are big knees and right, huge left hooks.

1036
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 8: Stuff that's gonna like you're getting concussed, and then you're

1037
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 8: getting concussed again and again and again. And to me,

1038
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 8: it was a fight that should have been stopped. I

1039
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 8: think there's no excuse for it. And like Ray said,

1040
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 8: then you see him take a point.

1041
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 6: Away from those SATs. I mean, just just craziness.

1042
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 9: And I agree with you stop based on that for sure.

1043
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 8: And the referees just kind of like like he didn't

1044
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 8: even he didn't even make it look like he was

1045
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 8: going to stop the fight at any point.

1046
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 6: He was just he won.

1047
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 8: He was way for the dude just to be out

1048
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 8: like that's what he considers a knockout is just comatose,

1049
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 8: and you know we've seen it before. You know, I

1050
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 8: don't want to save a fighter like that, because that

1051
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 8: guy wasn't gonna quit. He wasn't gonna comes from that

1052
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 8: special Operation Forces like mentality. He's not gonna quit. He

1053
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 8: was ready to die. And those are the guys you

1054
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 8: gotta save. It's not you know, the guys that are

1055
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 8: gonna tap out that you need to say, it's the

1056
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 8: guys that will not quit.

1057
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 6: And for me, it was it was hard to watch

1058
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 6: it at times.

1059
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 8: And I'm just glad that, you know, the UFC went

1060
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 8: in there, made the right choice and said, you know what,

1061
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 8: you're not ready for this level.

1062
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 6: You might not be ready for professional fights period.

1063
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 7: Just because check Congo comes back and beats Pat Barry

1064
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 7: doesn't mean that the referee didn't actually contact Pat Barry,

1065
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 7: which momentarily muted Barry's offense, Right, I mean, I'm sort

1066
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 7: of with Campbello. Just because the guy's throwing offense doesn't

1067
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 7: mean his brain is computing what's exactly going on. But

1068
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 7: coaches are in a tough spot, and this is sort

1069
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 7: of what I wanted to get to, right because, like

1070
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 7: I just think it's it's asking a lot of a

1071
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 7: coach when a guy is fighting in his UFC debut

1072
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 7: and getting beat up on the feet, especially someone who's

1073
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 7: French Special Forces, who you know is just so tough

1074
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 7: and who has dealt with all of these different things

1075
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 7: in his professional life outside of fighting. I think it's

1076
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 7: asking a lot of a coach to just chuck the

1077
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 7: towel and stop the fight in a guy's UFC debut.

1078
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 6: So while I.

1079
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 7: Would have liked to have seen that happen ray for

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00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 7: coaches like you and for Ken Flow, I think it's

1081
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 7: asking a lot.

1082
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's one hundred percent asking a lot. But look

1083
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 9: at the older I get, the more i'm you know,

1084
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 9: I'm going to error on the side of caution. When

1085
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 9: I was younger, maybe it was a little different, but

1086
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 9: you know, yeah, you get older, you really just don't

1087
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 9: want to see anybody get hurt. It's it's just paramount.

1088
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 9: It's tricky.

1089
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, this one, Yeah, I you know, I would love.

1090
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Speaker 9: To you know, I'll pull up some some worse cases

1091
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 9: than that that the reps are still reughing. Well, yeah,

1092
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 9: that is because they should have been pulled. But there's

1093
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 9: a way worst cases I've seen in what I saw

1094
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 9: the other day.

1095
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 7: Well, and Cody asked, what was the worst sitting sitting

1096
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 7: off to the onside, This one of Ferguson gae Chee

1097
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 7: and Ferguson Gaechee was far worse to watch for me

1098
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 7: than this was, you know. But I do think Ben

1099
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 7: Wassanti's career was shortened by several years with this fight,

1100
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 7: and that is not at all what he's looking for.

1101
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 6: And he's Kenny. He's a good fighter, you know, he

1102
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 6: really is.

1103
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 7: He was undefeated, outstanding Brazilian jiu jitsu guy, probably going

1104
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 7: to try to fight at fifty five. So yeah, I

1105
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 7: also have that in the back of my mind that

1106
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 7: he's just sort of stepping up a division against a

1107
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 7: guy in Dosantos that has been in the top ten

1108
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 7: of the world, a guy who's had a seven fight

1109
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 7: winning streak in the UFC at one point in time,

1110
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 7: you know.

1111
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 9: So you know, yeah, that was a tough one, you know.

1112
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 9: And again that he put an exclamation point on it

1113
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 9: when he took that point away and just didn't right,

1114
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 9: That's when I just completely turned on the guy. This

1115
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 9: is now, it's it's like and the look he just

1116
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 9: had to look of just lack of days ago, like

1117
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 9: it's no big deal. It wasn't a good look. The

1118
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 9: UFC was I think the regulatory body. Am I correct

1119
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 9: with that? For this fight, Yes, they had to do

1120
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 9: that because they had to be able to say, look,

1121
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 9: we were the regular till we got rid of them.

1122
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 9: If we let that guy stay, I think it's a blends.

1123
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 9: So they did the right thing and they pulled that

1124
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 9: guy off and again send him back Mark Ratner.

1125
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 7: Mark Ratner sent me a message he will not be

1126
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 7: officiating anymore this evening. It was kind of funny when

1127
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 7: all the referees and officials went for a group shot

1128
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 7: at the end of the night. I hate to pile on,

1129
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 7: but they were taking a group photo. Uh, and this

1130
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 7: dude who shall remain nameless, was sort of on the

1131
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 7: outside looking in and I saw somebody be like getting

1132
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 7: the picture, and it's like, I'll get in the fucking picture.

1133
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 7: But you know, it's hard because this guy goes back

1134
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 7: to his life and I think he was like zero

1135
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 7: and five as a pro mm A fighter, you know,

1136
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 7: but this career is probably going away for him.

1137
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 6: It's it's just hard.

1138
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 7: It's you know, for this looking over, we're all human

1139
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 7: beings at the end of the day, right, we only

1140
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 7: have a couple of minutes, so I need to ask

1141
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 7: you about raging ally Quinta, who isn't a fight week

1142
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 7: for the first time in a very long time.

1143
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 6: Are you excited?

1144
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 9: Very excited? You know, very very excited. So this is

1145
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 9: the week, buddy, he's right now. He feels good. I

1146
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 9: spoke with him last night, actually watched the fights with

1147
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 9: him on Saturday, the fights we caught at the gym.

1148
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 9: We just fucking hung out with a couple of people

1149
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 9: and watched the fights. And yeah, everything's good. He's excited,

1150
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 9: and that's all that matters to me. I know he's

1151
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 9: going to go in and give it his all for

1152
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 9: fifteen minutes like he always does. And I expect this

1153
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 9: to be a really, really fun, fun fight. I'd Green's tough.

1154
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 6: Ray. I assume all the hard training is done at

1155
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 6: this point. Yeah, we're just kind of cruising into the way.

1156
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, especially with a health is wealth with him, So yeah,

1157
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 9: he feels good. I don't even want to take any chances.

1158
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 9: Let's do it. He's a he's a born fighter. Anyway,

1159
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 9: it's not with him, it's not you're not changing anything

1160
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 9: in five days. You know, it is what it is

1161
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 9: right now, and I'm excited for it.

1162
00:52:59,040 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 6: All right.

1163
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 7: Well, I'm excited to shake your hand and see you

1164
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 7: in a couple of days. I don't know if I'm

1165
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 7: going to make it out to the gym, but we'll

1166
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 7: pick that up offline. And uh, appreciate you, my brother.

1167
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 7: You got anything else before we let you fly?

1168
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 6: Oh?

1169
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,479
Speaker 9: Man? Did anything? I think we're good.

1170
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 6: I think we're good. Right, Hey, everybody, what was that?

1171
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 6: Good luck preparing for Pudurian? Hey, listen, congrat hitting.

1172
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 9: Congrats to Pedion. He looked absolutely unstoppable. Yeah, he's He

1173
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 9: became a bigger problem over the weekend for sure. So

1174
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 9: but that's what makes that's what makes this game. Man.

1175
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 9: It's exciting and anything can happen. You zig when you

1176
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 9: should have zagged fights over, you know. So it's gonna

1177
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 9: be fun. But anyway, John, I'm gonna give you a

1178
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 9: buzz later offline. All right, buddy, thank you, Raya, take

1179
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 9: it easy man.

1180
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,560
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Speaker 7: Podcast, all right, joining us to make picks today, adding

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Speaker 7: veteran who is once seven of his last eight overall.

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Speaker 7: I actually have him on an a fight winning street.

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00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 7: But it's James Krause, our twenty twenty winner of the

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Speaker 7: Robert Fallis Cornerman of the Year here on the show.

1233
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 7: It's good to see a jak How are you man?

1234
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 10: I'm good man, Thank you guys. I'm super stoked to

1235
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 10: be a part of the show.

1236
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 3: Man.

1237
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 10: It's pretty cool to be able to get on here

1238
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 10: with you guys and chop it off.

1239
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1240
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 7: Man, we have a lot of new things planned for

1241
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 7: the Main Event Challenge next year. We got to figure

1242
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 7: out the scoring and how exactly Ken Flow and James

1243
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 7: are going to go head to head. So are you

1244
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 7: heading to South Florida right after the show today? Is

1245
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 7: that where you're going?

1246
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 5: No, I'm headed to Dublin for Bellotor Dublin.

1247
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, so Dublin Island.

1248
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 5: Who do you have there, James Gallagher?

1249
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 7: That's exciting. All right, Well we won't keep you too long.

1250
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 7: I want to ask you quickly just about what's going

1251
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 7: on in your life. I mean, obviously you're balancing being

1252
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 7: the head coach of this gym and obviously your own

1253
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 7: fighting career. So your last fight, the win over Cloudy

1254
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 7: of Silva on Fight Island, was last October about a

1255
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 7: year ago. Your last two fights you've stepped in as

1256
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,959
Speaker 7: the replacement, almost stepped in again obviously on a day's

1257
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 7: notice a few weeks ago. Are you getting the itch

1258
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 7: at all to actually, you know, side about agreement with

1259
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 7: a training camp against maybe somebody in that top fifteen,

1260
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 7: Like what's going on?

1261
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 10: It's really it's really tough for me because I'm on

1262
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 10: the road every weekend, you know, Like I think I

1263
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 10: think of the last like eight or nine weeks, I've

1264
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 10: had one weekend where I didn't have a fighter on.

1265
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 10: So it's really tough for me to say, hey, like

1266
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 10: I'm going to fight somebody from two months from now,

1267
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 10: and I guess I feel like I've committed to coaching

1268
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 10: these guys. I think we have fifteen or sixteen guys

1269
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 10: in the UFC out of my gym now.

1270
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 6: And I'll be.

1271
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 10: Honest with you guys, like, if I never fight again,

1272
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 10: I'm good with what I've done in my career. You know,

1273
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 10: I'm really happy with it. I never set out to

1274
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 10: be a champion. This is not something I've.

1275
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 5: Ever been interested in. I really don't care.

1276
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 10: I wanted three things whenever I whenever I hung out

1277
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 10: my gloves. I was one was to be financially free

1278
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 10: from you know, at least start making money from from fighting.

1279
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 5: I've done that. Go out on the win. I've done that.

1280
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 10: And then I never wanted the UFC to kind of

1281
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 10: like give me that little nudge and be like, hey man,

1282
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 10: you've lost three in a row.

1283
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 5: You know it's time for you leave. So I've got

1284
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:06,479
Speaker 5: I'm out on the wind.

1285
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 10: I've done well for myself financially, and you know, I

1286
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 10: can kind of pick and choose my battles right now.

1287
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 10: So if i never fight again, I'm good with it,

1288
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 10: you know. But the but the short notice stuff that

1289
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 10: everybody kind of like steers away from, Yeah, for whatever reason,

1290
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 10: I'm gone to that.

1291
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 5: I don't know why.

1292
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 7: You know, there's just so many green stripes on your

1293
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 7: Wikipedia page that I commend you. It's almost like a

1294
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 7: lack of ego and a lot of respects though that

1295
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 7: you aren't necessarily hyper focused on your own greatness, because

1296
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 7: you know, I do think you are very competitive against

1297
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 7: a lot of guys in that top fifteen. All right,

1298
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 7: let us make the picks, and it's great to have you,

1299
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 7: and I know it's a busy day, so we appreciate

1300
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 7: you squeezing U sin. Let's start at middleweight, and the

1301
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 7: reason we're picking this fight is really personal curiosity. Because

1302
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 7: it's pretty close on the number. Some might be surprised

1303
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 7: that nes Sordini Mavov, the lesser known quantity here is

1304
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 7: the minus one twenty five favorite against Edmond Shabazi and

1305
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 7: Shabazi and plus one oh five. He's dropped two in

1306
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 7: a row James, last of which came to Jackerman. It's

1307
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 7: in May twenty second. On the other side, he mo

1308
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 7: Bob stop Ian, heinis in July, we'll see if he

1309
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 7: can take Shabazi In's ranking.

1310
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 6: How do you see this one? Plan out? Get?

1311
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a really competitive fight. To me, I

1312
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 5: like am of a lot.

1313
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 10: But I feel like, you know, if you look at

1314
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 10: Shabazi and he's he's lost two in a row to

1315
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 10: two of the elites in the division, right like, and

1316
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 10: I feel like he's kind of getting disrespected.

1317
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 5: On this line a little bit. Uh. For me, this

1318
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 5: is kind of a coin flip fight.

1319
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 10: So if if, if that's the case, I'm always gonna

1320
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 10: take whoever has plus money on this one. And in

1321
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 10: that case, you know, my short answer is gonna be

1322
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 10: I'm gonna take Shabazi And just from a from a

1323
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 10: betting perspective alone, if I get Shabazi at plus money

1324
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 10: on this one on a coin flip fight, I gotta

1325
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 10: I gotta take that. I do, however, think this is

1326
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 10: going to be an extremely competitive fight back and forth.

1327
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 10: I could see this going in both ways, and this

1328
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 10: is gonna be one of those fights where as a fan,

1329
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 10: I'll be I'll be really happy to kind of sit

1330
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 10: back and uh and watch this one.

1331
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm with you, Kempflow.

1332
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 7: So for the second straight week week here you got

1333
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 7: an un ranked fighter favored to beat the number eleven

1334
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 7: guy in their division. Last week it was Chimayab over Leong.

1335
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 7: What do you think about Imavov and Shabazi in here, kid, Yeah.

1336
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 8: Listen, I think James is spot on with this one.

1337
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 8: This is a pick him fight. I am gonna go

1338
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 8: the other way. I like him mov off in this fight.

1339
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 8: I think he is vastly underrated. I think Shabazi and

1340
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 8: has a ton of potential as well. But I would

1341
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 8: like to see his grappling, I guess improve a little

1342
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 8: bit more, or like to see better improvements in that regard.

1343
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 8: But you know, still very talented, still very dangerous on

1344
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 8: the feet. But I think Imvov is just a little

1345
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 8: bit more consistent, and I don't know. I think he's

1346
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 8: someone to watch man, So I'm gonna keep your eyes on.

1347
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 8: So I like him all right.

1348
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 7: Next prelim for us at one hundred and fifty five pounds,

1349
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 7: Bobby Green minus won seventy the favorite ally quent to

1350
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 7: plus one fifty. James, you fought Bobby Green in what

1351
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 7: was the second UFC appearance for both him and you

1352
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 7: back in twenty thirteen.

1353
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 6: Your thoughts on his chances against Raging Out.

1354
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 10: I gotta be honest, guys, this is this is my

1355
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 10: best play of the week. I feel like Bobby Green

1356
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 10: is consistently and grossly underrated and uh against Al. When

1357
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 10: I when I look at this fight, I think, I

1358
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 10: think we're talking about a couple of different things here.

1359
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 10: If we're talking about who I think is gonna win

1360
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 10: and and uh, this fight doesn't change for me either way.

1361
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 10: But who I think is gonna win and who I'm

1362
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 10: betting on could be two different things. Right Like in

1363
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 10: the in the last fight, I just said, it's a

1364
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 10: pick and fight, you know, so I have to take

1365
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 10: who's on on plus money. So I would take Shabazy.

1366
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 10: I'm obvious is super tough and I definitely I could

1367
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 10: see him winning. But in this fight, I feel like

1368
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 10: Green is just constantly disrespected. When I look at Al,

1369
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 10: his his lack of inactivity ows. I mean, he's amazing, Obviously,

1370
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 10: he's he Honestly, he probably fought Kabib one of, if

1371
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 10: not the best, uh. And really, for me, he showed

1372
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 10: that Kabib his open matt wrestling isn't isn't insane, it's

1373
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 10: his cage wrestling. You know, he stopped takedowns for three rounds.

1374
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 10: You know, Al is insane. Uh, He's He's an amazing competitor. However,

1375
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 10: I think Bobby Green is grossly disrespected, uh throughout the lines.

1376
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 10: And my one knock against Bobby is sometimes he will

1377
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 10: let fights, he will kind of compete, or he'll go

1378
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 10: with people, and he very.

1379
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 5: Rarely pulls ahead of people, right.

1380
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 10: You know, you see him in a ton of split

1381
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 10: decision losses and sometimes he'll get the other side of it.

1382
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 10: He typically will lose those close fights though, because he's

1383
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 10: so good at that shoulder roll. It looks like he's

1384
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 10: getting hit clean, but he's actually not. And I can

1385
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 10: tell you from experience he's an extremely, extremely difficult person

1386
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 10: to land clean against, Like, very very difficult. His pressure

1387
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 10: is good, he's posed, he's postured, he's composed when he

1388
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 10: gets in there.

1389
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 5: He's a very good veteran. I like Bobby Green a lot.

1390
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 5: In this fight. I think he's got good volume. I

1391
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 5: think his counterboxing is going to.

1392
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 10: Do really good against Al's lack of inactivity kind of

1393
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 10: scares me a little bit. I know he's been plagued

1394
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 10: with injuries and stuff in the past. For those reasons,

1395
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 10: I really have to lean Bobby Green hard on this one.

1396
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, chronic knee injuries for Ally Quincas, so Bobby Green,

1397
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 7: Kenny has fought six times since ali a quinta last

1398
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 7: grace the Octagon the loss to Dan Hooker UFC two

1399
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 7: forty three October twenty nineteen.

1400
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 6: What do you think about this one? Kenny Green and Iaquinta, Yeah.

1401
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 8: Listen, it's a tall task for for iaquin to hear,

1402
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 8: you know, for all the reasons that James mentioned, I

1403
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 8: think Bobby is very underrated. I think he's as tough

1404
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 8: as they come, you know again, But I think that

1405
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 8: Al is a competitor. I think that for a lot

1406
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 8: of guys who have been outside of the octagon for

1407
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 8: that long, I think it would be way more difficult

1408
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 8: for a lot of other guys. Al tends to shine

1409
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 8: brightest when the lights come on. He always is game.

1410
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 8: I think he has the potential to go toe to

1411
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 8: toe with Green. He's got an excellent chin. But I

1412
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 8: think the smartest path to victory for him is to

1413
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,919
Speaker 8: use that wrestling and try to put Bobby on his back.

1414
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 8: I think that's where Al has the best chance. Can

1415
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 8: he trade with him?

1416
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 6: Sure?

1417
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 8: Is that the smartest thing to do against them like

1418
01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 8: Bobby Green? Probably not? But I do think Al can

1419
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 8: go out there and get the win here. I know

1420
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 8: he has been, you know, plagued with injuries, particularly that knee.

1421
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 8: But I like out here. I like the underdog here,

1422
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 8: and we'll keep things interesting. I'm going the opposite way

1423
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 8: of James.

1424
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's keeping things interesting. He's trying to not piss

1425
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 7: off long Ago. I wish I had a chance to

1426
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 7: pick against Longos guys every fucking show.

1427
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 6: Morob could be.

1428
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 7: A six to one favorite, and I'd be like, I'm

1429
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 7: going with the short notice guy. All right, all right, James,

1430
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 7: I'm very curious to see where you fall on this one.

1431
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 7: The main card opener on pay per view a one hundred

1432
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 7: and thirty five pounds. I thought Cheeto Verra would be

1433
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 7: closer to minus two hundred. He's minus one sixty five.

1434
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 7: Frankie Edgars plus one forty five, some hinting this could

1435
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 7: be Frankie's retirement fight. He turned forty October sixteenth. Last fight,

1436
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 7: of course, a knockout, lost to Sanagan in February, but

1437
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 7: did look good against Pedro Munos a few months prior

1438
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 7: to that. On the other side, Cheetos on Everybody's All

1439
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 7: Violence team, trying to make it three wins in his

1440
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 7: last four.

1441
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 6: James Krause, Who do you have, man, I gotta.

1442
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 10: Be honest, it's the the when you say Cheeto minus

1443
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 10: two hundred, I know that's not the line right now.

1444
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:04,479
Speaker 10: I think it's closer to the one sixty.

1445
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 5: Is that what you said?

1446
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 7: Uh?

1447
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 5: Depending on what day you ask me, man, I.

1448
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 10: I agree with the line. I agree with the line,

1449
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 10: and it probably should be a little higher. You're probably

1450
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 10: right there, probably closer to two hundred. But I've seen

1451
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 10: Frankie in this spot before, you know what I mean, Like,

1452
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 10: I've seen him in this spot before. If you guys

1453
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 10: remember when he fought ya year and I know this

1454
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 10: has been some time.

1455
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 6: That's a good example though, Yeah, I.

1456
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 5: Mean he was counted out.

1457
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 10: And I'm listen the way the MMA has been working lately,

1458
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 10: I don't know, so it's it's been It's been a

1459
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 10: crazy past two weeks for me. But I could see

1460
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 10: all the things would point to Cheeto going out dominating

1461
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 10: this by possibly finishing. All I'm saying is is I

1462
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 10: would not be surprised if Frankie wrestled his way.

1463
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 5: To a decision.

1464
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 10: That's all I'm saying. And if we're talking about from

1465
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 10: a betting, a betting perspective here. What I would do

1466
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 10: is I would look at Cheeto at minus one sixty

1467
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 10: because I think that's a great price. To be honest

1468
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 10: with you, guys, I think Cheto at minus one sixty

1469
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 10: here is a phenomenal price. And then you hedge the

1470
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 10: other side at Frankie by decision, and you'll probably get

1471
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 10: You'll probably get a good hedge somewhere in there to

1472
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 10: where it's almost hard. You know, I don't see Frankie

1473
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 10: knocking Cheeto out. Cheeto is extremely durable. The only only

1474
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 10: path of victory here that I see for Frankie is

1475
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 10: by decision, wrestling his way. So for me, the way

1476
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 10: I would play this is I would go, I would

1477
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 10: go Cheeto straight up, and it's you know, you're going

1478
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 10: to pay for it minus one sixty or minus up

1479
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 10: to minus two hundred whatever, and then you go Frankie

1480
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 10: by decision, because really that's the only path of victory

1481
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 10: that I see, and you'll get good money. You'll get

1482
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 10: good plus money on that because he's already the underdog.

1483
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 10: And then you're picking the actual method of victory as well.

1484
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 10: So I think you'll hedge and you'll make money on

1485
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 10: that no.

1486
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 7: Matter what I certainly think that sage advice. If you

1487
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 7: are betting the Frankie side, maybe finding a proposition number

1488
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 7: around plus one eighty plus two hundred on him by

1489
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 7: decision can flow Cheeto Frankie your thoughts.

1490
01:06:58,520 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 6: Great stuff there from James Listen.

1491
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 8: I like Frankie here in this spot as well, you know,

1492
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 8: you know, can I see Cheeto winning? Of course, the

1493
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 8: guy's dangerous as hell. He's good everywhere, you know, And

1494
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 8: I just love his attitude. I love his commitment to

1495
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 8: train hard and go out there and kick ass. But

1496
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 8: it's hard for me, you know, a guy who kind

1497
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 8: of came around my era to pick against him. Frankie

1498
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 8: is also one of those guys that man, when you

1499
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 8: caught him out, that's when he's most dangerous. It looks

1500
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 8: like he's been training his ass off, and if this

1501
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 8: is last fight, if this is his last fight and

1502
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 8: he knows this is his last training camp, he's going out,

1503
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 8: you know, guns blazing man. So you know, I think

1504
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 8: Frankie can get it done here. I like Frankie to

1505
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 8: win by decision against a very tough and always game

1506
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 8: Cheeto Vera.

1507
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 7: And of course with that Madison Square Garden backdrop. That

1508
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,479
Speaker 7: Frankie Edgar walked to the octagon, I guess it's a run.

1509
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 7: But that Frankie Edgar run to the octagon is gonna

1510
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 7: be something special, all right at featherweight, not the fight

1511
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 7: during which to get up and go grab a modelo.

1512
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 7: Shane Burgos minus two ten, Billy Corntella plus seventy five,

1513
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 7: so Billy Q a little bit under the radar four

1514
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 7: and one in the UFC, but as such here getting

1515
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 7: a shot at a ranked opponent Burgo's number fourteen. James

1516
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 7: needs to win, though back to back losses for him

1517
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 7: coming in against Josh Emmett and Edson Barbosa Burgos about

1518
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 7: a two to one favorite?

1519
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 10: Your thoughts, Yeah, I mean I love both these guys

1520
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 10: a ton. I follow both these guys on on social media.

1521
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 10: They you know, they I communicate with both these guys

1522
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 10: back and forth. I like these guys a lot. It's

1523
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 10: really tough for me to give it a pick here,

1524
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 10: but this my I'm gonna put my you know, my

1525
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 10: my emotion to sign and I'm gonna think from an

1526
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 10: analytical brain here when I look at this, I look

1527
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 10: at Burgos coming off two losses in a row, But

1528
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:40,799
Speaker 10: who are those losses to Josh.

1529
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 5: Emmitt ed So Barbosa.

1530
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 10: I mean, we're talking about the elite of the elite

1531
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 10: of the elite of the division, two big powerhouses that Honestly,

1532
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 10: both those guys, especially Emmett, doesn't get the credit that

1533
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 10: he deserves. I think it's because he's not super active,

1534
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 10: but that dude was a hammer man. He is so

1535
01:08:56,600 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 10: good really, and Burgos Burgos has has shown that he's

1536
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 10: he's a force in that division too. He's just lost

1537
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 10: to two of the elites. When I look at Corntillo,

1538
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 10: he's been beating He's been beating these guys, but his

1539
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 10: his big fight, the best guy he's fought, uh, Gavin Tucker,

1540
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 10: I believe is is the is the one that kind

1541
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 10: of gave him the most issues. So it's to me,

1542
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 10: this is a big step up for Corntillo and uh,

1543
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 10: this is in my opinion, I must win for Burgos.

1544
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 10: I like when I when I look at this, I

1545
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 10: look at strength of schedule and and if I can

1546
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 10: just remove myself emotionally straight, the schedule goes heavy on Burgos, right,

1547
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 10: Burgos has had a much tougher schedule than Cortillo has. Uh,

1548
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 10: and that and He's shown that even in those losses,

1549
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 10: he was in those fights.

1550
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 5: You know, I like he was in.

1551
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 10: Those fights, and he could have he could have he

1552
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 10: could have won both those fights, you know what I mean,

1553
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 10: Like they weren't. He wasn't getting blown out of the

1554
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 10: water by any means. So for that reason, I would,

1555
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 10: I would. I would tend to lean Uh, I would

1556
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 10: tend to lean Burgos. However, I'm gonna give you an

1557
01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 10: asterisk on this one.

1558
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 9: Uh.

1559
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 5: That knockout was.

1560
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 10: Pretty rough, the last one, Barboso one. You always gotta

1561
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 10: wonder how somebody recovers from that. And Corntillo is gonna

1562
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 10: be a guy that you know thirteen and a half

1563
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 10: minutes in, he's gonna keep coming. He's young, he's got

1564
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 10: great cardio. He hits hard.

1565
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 5: He's gonna be there.

1566
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 10: And uh, you know, I if I'm him, I look

1567
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 10: to press Burgo's hard and I want to test that

1568
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 10: chin see if he's recovered. If you got a gun

1569
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 10: to my head, I gotta make a pick. I'm gonna

1570
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:26,759
Speaker 10: I'm gonna lean Burgo slow.

1571
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 7: All right, nicely tell him with the breakdown ken flow.

1572
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 7: A couple of New York guys here, I don't know

1573
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 7: which way the Boston Guy's gonna go. Burgos Corntella, Who

1574
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 7: do you like, dude?

1575
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 8: Listen, we got Gaichie on the card, we got Chandler

1576
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 8: on the card, we got Nami Eunis, Uzman Covington. But

1577
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 8: for me, this is the most exciting fight on the card.

1578
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 8: There's no way this fight isn't a banger. Like just

1579
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 8: the way that both these guys compete, It's gonna be

1580
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 8: ridiculous and.

1581
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 6: If it does go the distance, it will be a classic.

1582
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 8: So uh for me, you know, I think Jane has

1583
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 8: made you know, pretty much all the points out there.

1584
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,560
Speaker 8: Burgos has had this different competition And for Billy C.

1585
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 8: You know, his strength is the fact that he is

1586
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 8: an absolute mad man. His weakness is the fact that

1587
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 8: he's an absolute mad man. You know, sometimes he gets

1588
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 8: too wild out there, and going against a very precise,

1589
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 8: heavy handed guy like Burgos, you gotta be really careful

1590
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 8: and quarantine. Quarantillo can can can crack as well. I

1591
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 8: think he stays active all the time as well. I

1592
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 8: think he can potentially get it done on the grappling side.

1593
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 8: I think that's probably where he has his best chance

1594
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 8: here against Burgos. But Burgos season man, He's been in

1595
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 8: there with a lot of tough guys. I think it's

1596
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 8: gonna be an amazing fight. Unfortunately, I got I gotta

1597
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 8: go against Billy Q man, and it pains me to

1598
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 8: say that, but yeah, I like Burgos here. I think

1599
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 8: Burgos probably get its done, gets it done by decision.

1600
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 6: But I think it's gonna be an exciting fight, that's

1601
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 6: for sure.

1602
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 7: Fading the long time and a conploring podcast supporter Billy

1603
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 7: Corn tell account, how are you.

1604
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 6: Making me feel bad? Get out of Come on, bro,

1605
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 6: I love Billy Q all right.

1606
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 7: Featured back at one hundred and fifty five pounds Justin

1607
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 7: Gaigdee modest two ten Michael Chandler plus one seventy five.

1608
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 7: James Gaichie is back for the first time since that

1609
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 7: title shot against Cabibe that was more than a year

1610
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 7: ago in October of twenty twenty.

1611
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:23,759
Speaker 6: He's a two to one favorite here against Michael Chandler.

1612
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 6: What do you think?

1613
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 5: Uh, this is the most violent man title you know?

1614
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 5: This is This is a great fight.

1615
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 10: Casey said the Burgos Billy Q fight was the one

1616
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 10: he's looking at. This is the one I'm looking at,

1617
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 10: And uh, man, I can't imagine this being anything else

1618
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 10: but insane.

1619
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 5: Uh.

1620
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 10: When I look at this fight once again, I try

1621
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 10: to remove my emotion from it because I'm all giddy

1622
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 10: lack of little kid for this matchup. But when I

1623
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 10: look at this from an analytical breakdown, I look at

1624
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 10: a guy. I look at Gai Chee, who who is

1625
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 10: arguably one of the best low kickers in the game

1626
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 10: against the guy that has historically had issues dealing with

1627
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 10: the low kick in the past.

1628
01:12:59,520 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 6: Uh.

1629
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 10: I do feel like Gatechie's gonna play that nice shell

1630
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 10: style that'll keep him safe. I feel like if Gegie

1631
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 10: can get out of the first the first five to

1632
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 10: seven and a half minutes, and this fight's this fight's

1633
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 10: fifteen minutes, right yeah, three rounds, three five minute rounds, okay,

1634
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 10: So that that actually helps Chandler out a little bit,

1635
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 10: I think, because as if this was a twenty five

1636
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 10: minute fight, I would favor Gey Chee even more. But

1637
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 10: I do feel like if Gatechie can get out of

1638
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 10: the first five minutes, maybe even the second half of

1639
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 10: the second round or the first half of the second round,

1640
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 10: I do feel like he's gonna start to pull away

1641
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 10: a little bit, you know. Uh, Chandler is so explosive

1642
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 10: though he can he can get anybody out of there

1643
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 10: in one punch. I would really like to see that

1644
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 10: old Geygee style, that shell low kick show low kick.

1645
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 10: I think if he goes back to those old ways,

1646
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 10: he's gonna he's gonna end up finding that leg and

1647
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 10: start to cause some balance issues for Chandler be able

1648
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 10: to find the punches. This is an insane massup. Though

1649
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 10: Chandler can get anybody out there in one punch, got

1650
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 10: into my head. I gotta go, I gotta go, Gechie here.

1651
01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 10: The low kick is gonna be the difference maker for me.

1652
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 10: Guy that is one of the best low kickers, and

1653
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 10: all of them the Neighbors guy historically had issues with that.

1654
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, ken flow, this is certainly the fight that jumps

1655
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,520
Speaker 7: off the car for me. Geechee and Chandler lightweight title eliminator.

1656
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 6: Who do you have? This fight is absolutely brilliant.

1657
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 8: You know, listen, I think that not only the light

1658
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 8: kicks for Gaichie, but I also think that he just

1659
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 8: might be the more disciplined guy out there. You know,

1660
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 8: I was really surprised by Chandler and his approach against

1661
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 8: OLIVERA is like dude, that's not where you want it.

1662
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 6: You're gonna go to the ground. You're gonna chase him

1663
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 6: down to the ground right now? What are you doing?

1664
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 5: So?

1665
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 6: I don't know if he makes the best decisions out there.

1666
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,600
Speaker 8: I think he is so gifted as an athlete and

1667
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 8: can he win this fight. Absolutely, But I just think

1668
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 8: he's going to, uh, you know, get sucked into throwing

1669
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 8: down against Geigee, and I don't think that's a good thing.

1670
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 6: I think Gigie hits a little bit harder. He's They're

1671
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 6: both nasty.

1672
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 8: But I think Geichie, you know, has been in this

1673
01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 8: spot here in the UFC many times. I like the

1674
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 8: way that he's really adapted over the course of his

1675
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 8: career here in the UFC. And yeah, I think I

1676
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 8: think gae Chee wins this absolutely. But I think either way,

1677
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 8: it's gonna be an awesome fight and I'll be surprised

1678
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 8: if this one goes the distance.

1679
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 7: I can't even wait for the staredown on Thursday, you know,

1680
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 7: never mind fighting Thatt. I'm just excited to see them

1681
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 7: get up in each other's faces, all right. Co headliner

1682
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 7: very close on paper per DraftKings Sports Book. Jean Wadley

1683
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 7: minus one fifteen slightly favored right now over rosnami Unis,

1684
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 7: who comes back minus one oh five. We will take

1685
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,600
Speaker 7: your round and method of victory. Boys, as this is

1686
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 7: a title fight, so it's a rematch of their title

1687
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 7: fight which took place in April, lasted just seventy eight seconds,

1688
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 7: and I will just submit to you James Kraus, rosnami

1689
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 7: Unis three and oh thus far in rematches against Tisha Torres,

1690
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 7: Jessica andraj and Joanna Young J check how do you

1691
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 7: handicap her chances as a slight dog here against John

1692
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:52,719
Speaker 7: Whitley Man.

1693
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 10: This was a really tough one for me because we

1694
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 10: didn't really get a lot of.

1695
01:15:55,880 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 5: Information from the first one, you know, and I I

1696
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 5: can't tell you guys why. I don't know why.

1697
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 10: I don't have a good answer for this. I wish

1698
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,799
Speaker 10: I did, but like I don't. I obviously rate Rose

1699
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 10: extremely high. She's very good, but.

1700
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 5: I never for I always pade her for some reason,

1701
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 5: Like I don't.

1702
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 10: I'm not saying that I play against her, but like

1703
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 10: I very rarely am I when.

1704
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 5: I go into a match up with her, am I

1705
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 5: like I like Rose in that right?

1706
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 6: Right?

1707
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 10: And I can't tell you why. I don't know why,

1708
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 10: you know what I mean, I'm not sure. She's obviously

1709
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 10: extremely skilled, she's amazing, She's a phenomenal striker, great jiu jitsu.

1710
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 5: I wish I could tell you, guys why. I don't

1711
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 5: know why.

1712
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:42,719
Speaker 10: I want to lean Waylee by my decision here, and uh,

1713
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 10: if I remember right, the line was about the same

1714
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 10: the first time that they fought, and we just don't

1715
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 10: really have any more information this time around.

1716
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 5: I said way Lee by decision.

1717
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 9: There.

1718
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 10: I think she got caught, you know that. And I'm

1719
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 10: not saying it was lucky or anything like that, but

1720
01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 10: I my brain, my analytical brain, wants to go, like, hey,

1721
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 10: if that doesn't happen, how would this fight play out?

1722
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 10: And I still last time I said I would take

1723
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 10: way Lee by decision, so and I naturally want to

1724
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:08,759
Speaker 10: I naturally want to go to that again.

1725
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna go way Lee by decision.

1726
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,600
Speaker 10: But man, I could just be an idiot here, and

1727
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 10: you know what I mean, Like, I don't, I don't.

1728
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 5: I can't tell you guys why I'm not. I don't know.

1729
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I get it right.

1730
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 7: There are just some fighters that, for whatever reason, uh,

1731
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 7: sort of, that's the way you feel, Kenny, I don't

1732
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 7: have a prediction. I'll say over seventy eight seconds. I

1733
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 7: think we're going to get a longer fight this time around.

1734
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 7: What do you think about the rematch here for the

1735
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:33,759
Speaker 7: UFC stroweight title.

1736
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 6: Gosh, you know this is a tough one. I think

1737
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 6: you know.

1738
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 8: I don't want to put words in James's mouth, but

1739
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 8: you know, I think for Roe's confidence has kind of

1740
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 8: been an issue for her over the course.

1741
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 5: I don't want to say it. I'm glad you yeah,

1742
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 5: you said so.

1743
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 8: No, So it always seems like, you know, is she

1744
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 8: going to be on? When she's on, dude, watch out,

1745
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 8: she'll beat anybody. But if she's off, anybody could beat her.

1746
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 8: So I get it, James, I know exactly what you're saying.

1747
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 6: Man. You know I that said.

1748
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 8: I have been a fan of Rose for a long

1749
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 8: time because I've always seen that potential. I don't always

1750
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 8: feel confident in picking her, but I do think this

1751
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 8: is a Rose nom Munis that is finally believing in

1752
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 8: her skills. I really believe that, and I think that

1753
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 8: you know, hearing her say I'm the champion, like I

1754
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 8: remember hearing stories about her.

1755
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 6: You know, they wanted to put the belt away.

1756
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 8: They like hit it in the closet because they didn't

1757
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 8: want it to overwhelm them or change their perspective and

1758
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 8: stuff like that. And you know, to me, I was like,

1759
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 8: you know, I don't know. It seems like she's not

1760
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 8: feeling it. She's not accepting, she's not believing who she is.

1761
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 8: But now I'm buying it. I think you know, that

1762
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,759
Speaker 8: last performance against Jean Wayley, even though it was quick,

1763
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 8: I think it did kind of prove to herself the

1764
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 8: kind of potential that she has. Do I think it's

1765
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 8: gonna be a short fight like the last one. No,

1766
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 8: I think it's gonna be more difficult fight. However, you

1767
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 8: mentioned that STAT three and zine rematches for Rose Now

1768
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 8: m Unis, I love it. I love it here. I

1769
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 8: think she wins by finish in round three. You know,

1770
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 8: I think it's going to be a fantastic fight. While

1771
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 8: last uh but uh yeah, this is this is this

1772
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 8: is going to be a fun card man.

1773
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 7: Loser has to grow their hair out for a year,

1774
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 7: Jong way Lee and Rosan on the units, so whoever

1775
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 7: loses can't get a haircut for a fight like you.

1776
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 6: All right, main event. How good is this man?

1777
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 7: Kamara Usman Monus three twenty Colby Covington plus two fifty

1778
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 7: will take you round your method A little backdrop for you.

1779
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 7: Just one appearance for Colby since the first meeting at

1780
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 7: UFC two forty five, which was December of twenty nineteen.

1781
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 7: Covington then finished Tyron Woodley September of twenty twenty, so

1782
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 7: he has had more than a year off and in

1783
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 7: that time, Usman successfully defending the belt against both Gilbert

1784
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 7: Burns and Jorge Mosfital. So Usman going for a fifth

1785
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 7: successful defense James and a fifteen to oh start in

1786
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 7: the UFC. He's a three to one favorite.

1787
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 6: What do you think?

1788
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 5: He's incredible?

1789
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 4: Man?

1790
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 5: He really is. And I'll be honest with you guys.

1791
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 10: As much as I would like to see as much

1792
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 10: as I would like to see Kobe win this title,

1793
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 10: I kind of like shake things up. I'm always I'm

1794
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 10: always that guy, that's all, you know what I mean?

1795
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 10: Like I wanted to see Channel win the title just

1796
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 10: just for the chaos, you know what I mean, Like,

1797
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 10: just show me chaos.

1798
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 5: I want mass chaos here.

1799
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 10: I would love to see Kobe be a champion and

1800
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 10: just start rattling off on everybody.

1801
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 5: I don't think he's gonna. I don't think he's gonna

1802
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 5: do that.

1803
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 6: Though.

1804
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 10: Usman's improvement has been incredible. I mean, how many how

1805
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 10: many champions can you say that you can, like, you

1806
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 10: can visually see Usman getting better every single time is

1807
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 10: striking has gotten better. He just don't you don't see

1808
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,719
Speaker 10: that like a champion. He's he's getting better like that's

1809
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 10: in that's insane, and I don't I don't know if

1810
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 10: we've has Kobe fought since the last time maybe once,

1811
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 10: just one one time, and Usman's fought three.

1812
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:50,719
Speaker 8: Times twice Okay, it's probably three fights, but twice since,

1813
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 8: uh well two or three.

1814
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 6: But he's been far more active, you know.

1815
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, Yeah, he's been way more active, and he's he's

1816
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:57,799
Speaker 10: showing consistent, consistent improvement.

1817
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,040
Speaker 5: Uh I.

1818
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,759
Speaker 10: I like Usman a lot in this. This is another

1819
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,759
Speaker 10: great example of where I would hedge the other side.

1820
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 10: There's three plays in here that I would do. I

1821
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 10: would take Usman straight up, I would sprinkle Usman by TKO,

1822
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 10: and then I would hedge the other side for Kolbe

1823
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 10: by decision because the odds on that are gonna be

1824
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 10: You'll get big plus money on that anyway, and I

1825
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 10: think if you do that, Kolby, in my opinion, doesn't

1826
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 10: have the power to finish Usman. If Kolbe wins, it's

1827
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 10: gonna be by decision. So like, I don't want to

1828
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 10: say it's guaranteed profit, but the odds of you winning

1829
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,640
Speaker 10: those plays are going to be really good. You know,

1830
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 10: if you take Uzman straight up the hedge with Kolbe

1831
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 10: by decision, I really like that. All that being said,

1832
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 10: I think Usman's gonna control this fight. I don't think

1833
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 10: it's gonna be as close as the first time around,

1834
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 10: and I would not be surprised if you've seen Usman

1835
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 10: win by TKO.

1836
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 7: We do, all right, So the official prediction is what

1837
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 7: Usman by decision, Usman by decision. I Ken Flow, Usman

1838
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 7: Covington take two Saturday Night, Madison.

1839
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 6: Square Garden and you found a good one.

1840
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 9: Man.

1841
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 8: I got my work cut out for me at twenty

1842
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 8: twenty two against telling mister Krause here my goodness. All right, well, listen,

1843
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,799
Speaker 8: I agree with him. I think it's gonna be another

1844
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 8: very good fight. You know, we've also seen Colby make

1845
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 8: huge improvements as well. I think he's a guy that

1846
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 8: is tough to kind of, you know, count out.

1847
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 6: We've seen him make huge improvements.

1848
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,719
Speaker 8: With his striking, and I think that if he made

1849
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 8: certain adjustments, he can win this fight.

1850
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 6: Now.

1851
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 8: The problem is what James talked about is that it's

1852
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 8: Kamara Usman that also continues to get better. He's getting

1853
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 8: more confident, he's getting more comfortable in the octagon, and

1854
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,600
Speaker 8: he's feeling himself as well. Man, So I can't go

1855
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 8: against Uzman, you know, similar to what James was talking

1856
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 8: about with Rose. I think at the middle of his career,

1857
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 8: I wasn't so sure about Uzman. I wasn't sure if

1858
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:56,640
Speaker 8: he would be a champ. I wasn't on that bandwagon

1859
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 8: I'm on now. You know, I've conned him out and

1860
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 8: you know, last few fights I've picked him to win,

1861
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 8: and he just has changed my mind completely. This guy

1862
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 8: is well on his way to becoming one of the

1863
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 8: best champions we have seen, and he's doing it at

1864
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,600
Speaker 8: one hundred and seventy pounds in a division where George A.

1865
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 8: Pierre made his name. So I've been bought away by

1866
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 8: his performances. I like him here. I actually think he

1867
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 8: does get the win, and Colby is an absolute beast man.

1868
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 8: He's amazing, and but I think Usman gets it done

1869
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 8: by finish by TKO round four.

1870
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 6: Let's go all right.

1871
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 7: TKO round four for Usman is the pick from Ken Flow.

1872
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 7: And if you want more from James Krause on social media,

1873
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 7: you can find him at the James Krause great to

1874
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 7: have you, my man, safe travels, bring home a big

1875
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:49,759
Speaker 7: win and we look forward to talking to you next Monday.

1876
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 6: My brother.

1877
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 5: Thanks, Thank you guys so much for having me. I

1878
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 5: really appreciate it.

1879
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 6: Great man. There he is, James Krause.

1880
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 7: I got him on an eight fight winning street by

1881
01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 7: the way Ken Flow in the UFC right now.

1882
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 6: But he's an outstanding coach.

1883
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 7: And it was interesting when we were handing out our

1884
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 7: afpahs last year, and some people were surprised that I

1885
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 7: gave James Krauss my Robert Fallis Kornerman of the Year,

1886
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 7: because oftentimes.

1887
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 6: Our awards are reserved for coaches.

1888
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 7: And cornermen who either win titles or But the way

1889
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 7: I saw him handle these young athletes last year and

1890
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 7: the way I saw him coach, he was the name

1891
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 7: that I settled on and obviously I know him a

1892
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 7: lot more now than I did then, But yeah, excited

1893
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 7: to have Barb the show.

1894
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 8: You Know, what I liked is that, you know, he's

1895
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 8: one of the smartest fighters out there, He's one of

1896
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,640
Speaker 8: the best coaches out there. What I liked was he

1897
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 8: kind of sounded like how I feel when I'm picking fights,

1898
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 8: where it's like you've been around the sport for a

1899
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 8: long time, you study the game, but you're not confident

1900
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 8: in your picks almost. It's like you know that chaos

1901
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 8: can come into that octagon at any point. You're like,

1902
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 8: I don't know, man, I think this guy. But anyways,

1903
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 8: it was awesome having him on the show, and he's

1904
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 8: going to be a great addition as we move forward, man.

1905
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 6: And yeah, this car is going to be awesome as well.

1906
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 7: And I would just say I do see value on

1907
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 7: Colby Covington at plus two fifty and Colby Covington did

1908
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 7: an interview with Brett Okamoto from ESPN dot com and

1909
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 7: Colby sort of intimated that if there wasn't an early

1910
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 7: stoppage in that fight, and I did think Goddard stoppage.

1911
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 7: As much as I love Mark was a little bit premature.

1912
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 7: If there wasn't an early stoppage and that fight had

1913
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 7: gone five rounds Kenny, this rematch would have probably come

1914
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 7: around even earlier for Colby Covington. I know he only

1915
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 7: had to win that one fight against Tyron Woodley and

1916
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 7: he was able to finish it. But again, imagine if

1917
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 7: that fight, which was an absolute classic at UFC two

1918
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 7: forty five, one of the best title fights I've ever seen,

1919
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 7: if it goes the twenty five minutes and Colby here's

1920
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 7: that final horn, maybe they get these two right back

1921
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 7: in the octagons. So I think he certainly has earned it,

1922
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 7: even just with the one win, and we'll see what

1923
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 7: Colby covn Kin can do. And in terms of the chaos,

1924
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 7: it would be no pun intended, but it would be

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Speaker 7: absolutely crazy. If we're doing the show next week and

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Speaker 7: Colby Covington is the undisputed champion, it's having kama Usman

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Speaker 4: Time now for the pick to click the pic to click.

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Speaker 3: All I have to do is bet on the winner.

1944
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Speaker 4: And I'll never members John annag and Kenny Florian.

1945
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Speaker 7: Podcast all right in joining us as usual here during

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Speaker 7: a UFC pay per view week, if for no other

1947
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Speaker 7: reason than to lift me up with his energy, is

1948
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Speaker 7: the Great Joe Osbourne on social media at Jtfoz on

1949
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Speaker 7: Twitter and at paper Chaser Joe on Instagram.

1950
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Speaker 6: Great to see you, my friend. Happy Halloween guys.

1951
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:09,759
Speaker 11: Back to back weeks we should be Yes, we should

1952
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 11: be doing a daily show together, the three of us.

1953
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 11: You know, I'm not just talking mma weighing in on polatics,

1954
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:18,640
Speaker 11: the vaccine economics. People want to hear this type of

1955
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Speaker 11: stuff from us, so we'll discuss.

1956
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Speaker 3: Imagine the numbers we would do.

1957
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Speaker 7: Right, If my twin brother could have any co host

1958
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 7: in the media space, it would be Joe fucking Osborne.

1959
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 7: Just don't give him Randy Koetor he was so upset

1960
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 7: interrupted his guy ken Blow all week. He's like sending

1961
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 7: me clips at Abu Dhabi.

1962
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 8: He's like, dude, if Randy interrupts ken Flow again, I'm

1963
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 8: turning off the TV. We love you, all right, So,

1964
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 8: as I understand that there are three big fights on

1965
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 8: this card, and you will have some sort of wager

1966
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Speaker 8: on all of them, or at least a lean, So

1967
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Speaker 8: let's start with Justin Gechee and Michael chand minus two

1968
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Speaker 8: ten on one side for Geechee plus one seventy five

1969
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 8: for Michael Chandler. Obviously there are going to be propositions

1970
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 8: and things, but as I sit here and talk to you,

1971
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Speaker 8: all the profighters I've talked to are picking Justin geigche

1972
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Speaker 8: I'm curious how you handicapped this lightweight eliminator of sorts

1973
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 8: at one hundred and fifty five pounds.

1974
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be aligned with all the pro fighters.

1975
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 11: I don't exactly love this fight from a betting perspective though,

1976
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 11: you know, a minus two hundred range for a Gatechee

1977
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 11: maybe be a little bit overvalued here against Michael Chandler,

1978
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 11: who's you know, an incredible fighter, getting him a plus

1979
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 11: one sixty sixty, I could see an argument for that.

1980
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Speaker 11: But if I am giving out a pick for this fight,

1981
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 11: I would go Gaechee by a TKO slash Ko coming

1982
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 11: in rate at even money. Not that bad of a bet,

1983
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 11: not the best value though, Like I said, you know,

1984
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 11: Gaige has been in twelve straight fights guys that have

1985
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 11: all been finished inside of the distance, which is crazy,

1986
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 11: right that nine of those victories belong to him, all

1987
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 11: of which coming by TKO slash Ko. Now you take

1988
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 11: a look at Michael Chandler, He's been knocked out twice

1989
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 11: in his last five fights, and you know, has kind

1990
01:28:57,040 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 11: of shown maybe a low fighter IQ points. He should

1991
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 11: be wearing that championship belt right now. You know, he

1992
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 11: had Charles Olavera towards the end of the first round.

1993
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 11: You know, if he let him back up, he probably

1994
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 11: would have won that fight. He probably be fighting Dussin Portia.

1995
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 11: Did you guys discuss this earlier or something that.

1996
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 6: Hit on exactly that point? Yeah, yeah, so.

1997
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Speaker 3: You know I could see that popping up.

1998
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Speaker 11: It also takes his one little split second mistake, right,

1999
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 11: and I wouldn't be shocked if we see that here

2000
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 11: in this one. And you know, ultimately, what we've seen

2001
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 11: from Justin Gatschee is that he's become a much smarter fighter.

2002
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 11: When he first came into the UFC, out of the

2003
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:38,639
Speaker 11: World Series of Fighting, he was all about that violence, right, Uhlan, take.

2004
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 3: A shot to land a shot type of guy.

2005
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Speaker 11: And then I think after a couple of losses to

2006
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Speaker 11: Dustin Portier and Eddie Albarez, maybe they stepped back a

2007
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 11: little bit and said, Okay, you know, do you want

2008
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 11: to be successful at this thing? Do you want to

2009
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 11: have some career longevity? Maybe we should change the approach

2010
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Speaker 11: a little bit. And that change has worked out pretty

2011
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 11: damn good for him. So I will take him to

2012
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 11: win TKO slash Ko even money.

2013
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Speaker 8: Joe Jean Way, Lee Rose, Now Munus we have the

2014
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Speaker 8: rematch how are you seeing this one, man?

2015
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Speaker 11: Yeah, so, last time around I was on the podcast,

2016
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Speaker 11: I picked way Lee and basically, you know, I wasn't

2017
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 11: very interested in going against her twenty one fight win

2018
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 11: streak at the time.

2019
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Speaker 3: However, in the back of my mind.

2020
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Speaker 11: I knew I kind of disregarded that many of the

2021
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:31,919
Speaker 11: victims on that twenty one fight win streak aren't exactly

2022
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 11: to the level of Rose and top ranked strawweights in

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Speaker 11: the UFC here, So that absolutely blew up in my face,

2024
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 11: right we so it Rose did in the first round

2025
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 11: of the fight, but you know, take a look at

2026
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Speaker 11: the big picture here for a Rose, she has some

2027
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Speaker 11: very impressive performances, some very impressive finishes at this level

2028
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 11: versus better competition. So I'm going to take her to

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01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:56,799
Speaker 11: win here. And I think these odds are fantastic minus

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Speaker 11: one ten basically even on each side here, and I

2031
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 11: think that kind of indicates that maybe her victory was

2032
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 11: a fluke of sorts, which I would totally I would

2033
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 11: totally disagree with that. You know, we've seen her finish

2034
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Speaker 11: opponents early before, ironically enough, at Madison Square Garden when

2035
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 11: she first captured the straweight championship versus you and j

2036
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 11: check there at UFC two seventeen, so I'll take care

2037
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,919
Speaker 11: to take care of business here minus one ten. Ultimately,

2038
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:24,559
Speaker 11: I think I think we need to see more from

2039
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:28,600
Speaker 11: way Lee versus high level competition. I was kind of

2040
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 11: I guess I was fooled by that twenty one fight

2041
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:34,639
Speaker 11: win streak. You know, she's still a very good fighter,

2042
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:36,679
Speaker 11: or one of the best in the division. But we've

2043
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:38,920
Speaker 11: seen Rose do it before, We've seen her do it more.

2044
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 11: So I will go with her at fantastic odds in

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Speaker 11: my opinion.

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01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,559
Speaker 7: And before I send everybody the odds prior to us

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Speaker 7: taping the show, I always write what I think it

2048
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 7: would be, and I wrote down nama unus minus one forty.

2049
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 7: And I was obviously to see that she was a

2050
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,599
Speaker 7: slight dog in a lot of places. So I think

2051
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 7: that all makes a lot of sense, all right. Lastly,

2052
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:03,640
Speaker 7: very curious how you see this because James Kraus and

2053
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 7: Kenny Floor and both like Kamorrow usman, it's easy to

2054
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,839
Speaker 7: see why not just the fourteen to zero in the UFC,

2055
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 7: but just the constant improvement. But I see plus two

2056
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 7: sixty or so on the Covington side. I saw a

2057
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 7: fight that was definitely two two going into the fifth round.

2058
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 7: So I do see a little value on the Covington side,

2059
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 7: even if I can't call them my contemporaries, But even

2060
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 7: if the experts disagree, how do you handicap the main

2061
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 7: event and will you have a play?

2062
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 5: So?

2063
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:31,680
Speaker 11: What have we seen and what do we know out

2064
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:33,719
Speaker 11: of these two guys. That's how I kind of handicap

2065
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 11: the fights. Like I'm not going to come on here

2066
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 11: and give a technical breakdown for a fight where we

2067
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 11: have a guy like Kenny, who's.

2068
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 3: One of the best in the business that doing that right.

2069
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 3: But I like Usman to win.

2070
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:45,680
Speaker 11: But like I said prior to when I was on

2071
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 11: last week, I'm not going to come on here and

2072
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:49,040
Speaker 11: give out a minus three hundred favorite.

2073
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 3: There's not a whole lot of interest in that.

2074
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 11: So I'll take Usman to win inside the distance, coming

2075
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 11: in at around plus one forty. So what have we

2076
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 11: seen and what do we know? What we've seen is

2077
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 11: Uzma and win a close fight. Maybe there was some

2078
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 11: controversy that it was stopped early, but you know, you

2079
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 11: go back and look at the site at all the

2080
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 11: stats for the fight.

2081
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:11,679
Speaker 3: He finished the guy, he knocked them down, twice.

2082
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 11: He totally rearranged his jaw, he outlanded him by thirty

2083
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 11: two significant strikes and ultimately he did stop him.

2084
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 3: So what have we seen since?

2085
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:24,640
Speaker 11: Well, Usman's gone three and zero and he has evolved to,

2086
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 11: in my opinion, the top pound for pound fighter and

2087
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 11: all of the UFC. You cannot call this guy Camorrow

2088
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 11: Snoozeman anymore.

2089
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 9: Right.

2090
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 3: I used to come on all the time and take

2091
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 3: the Kamorrow hu'sman by decision Kamorrow Husman over the round,

2092
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 3: over under betting.

2093
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 11: But now he's transformed into this incredible power puncher. Back

2094
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 11: to back wins bya punches versus Gilbert Burns and Jorge Mazdral.

2095
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 11: Prior to coming into those fights, those guys combined to

2096
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:55,720
Speaker 11: be finished by strikes just twice.

2097
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 12: In seventy four combined fights. And Usman's knocking these guys

2098
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 12: out right. So that's what we've seen per Movesman. He's

2099
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:06,839
Speaker 12: evolved into this incredibly well rounded fighter. As for a Comington,

2100
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 12: you know, he hasn't fought in a year. His last

2101
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 12: win was a dominant victory over Tyron Woodley, But we.

2102
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 11: Didn't exactly see anything new from him. You know that fight.

2103
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 11: That victory was somewhat similar to his uh his.

2104
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 3: Win over Robbie Lawler.

2105
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 11: In my opinion, he didn't land as many strikes, but

2106
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 11: it was you know, out pressuring and outpacing his opponent

2107
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 11: and being very dominant. So what would Colby's path to

2108
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 11: victory here be. Is he gonna out pressure Usman? Is

2109
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:37,600
Speaker 11: he gonna outpace him? I think that's very unlikely. Is

2110
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 11: he gonna out wrestle a guy who hasn't been taken

2111
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 11: down once in his UFC career, That's unlikely. You know,

2112
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 11: maybe he has some new tools though you know, we

2113
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 11: haven't seen him fight in the year. Usman has come

2114
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 11: out with new tools before. So you can make that argument,

2115
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 11: and maybe you can make the argument. You can keep

2116
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 11: your fingers crossed at nay. Maybe Usman has a bad night.

2117
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 11: You know, we do see that from time to time

2118
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 11: in the sport. You can make an argument that yan

2119
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 11: Bulhovich had a bad night the other night. It's kind

2120
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 11: of funny in this sport you have seen, like the

2121
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 11: sample sizes, guys may fight three times a year.

2122
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 3: Comparatively, in an NBA game, the Lakers.

2123
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 11: Can have a bad night, but they have two or

2124
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 11: three more chances the following week to make up for that, right,

2125
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 11: So it's just unlikely though that could happen. But I'll

2126
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 11: take Uzman plus money to win inside the distance, you know,

2127
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 11: to kind of put a stamp on.

2128
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 3: This rivalry that he has with Covington.

2129
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 11: Covington would be different if he was finishing people by strikes.

2130
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 3: And he was this amazing submission artist.

2131
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 11: But you know, I just don't think that this style

2132
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 11: which Usman has a very similar style, but I think

2133
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 11: his way of doing it is better, and now he

2134
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 11: has that punching power, right, So I will very happily

2135
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 11: take Usman to win inside the distance here.

2136
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I know Ken Flow is going to follow

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Speaker 7: you on that plus one four to Usman inside the distance,

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Speaker 7: and I thought you handled that breakdown beautifully.

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Speaker 6: And we'll see.

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Speaker 7: It's been an additional year at MMA Masters in Miami

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Speaker 7: since the Timing Woodley fight, so we'll see if there

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Speaker 7: have a bit appreciable improvements for Cold Covington. All right,

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Speaker 7: if you want more from Joe Osbourne, and why would

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Speaker 7: you not at Jtfoz on Twitter and of course on

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Speaker 7: Instagram at paper Chaser Joe my Man. I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 7: We're not gonna wait till UFC two sixty nine to

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Speaker 7: have you back. We'll find a spot in the next

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Speaker 7: few weeks and we will talk to you then, my man.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, hey guys, I look forward to it. Good

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Speaker 3: luck with the good luck to you, and good luck

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Speaker 3: tell the listeners.

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Speaker 7: Out there, thank you, my man. There is Joel Osbourne

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Speaker 7: with us here on the Anakin Florin podcast. Right, a

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Speaker 7: couple of housekeeping things on the way out. We should

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Speaker 7: have done two shows this week, right, because I didn't

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Speaker 7: want to short change to sixty seven. But I'm looking

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Speaker 7: at the clock and I'm like, oh, man, long goes

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Speaker 7: about to be done. And once Kraus comes on, that

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Speaker 7: means we're turning the page to UFC two sixty eight.

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Speaker 7: And we haven't had a chance to talk about Amanda

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Speaker 7: Heboss or Maga mat Anclive.

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Speaker 6: And that's just the way it is.

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Speaker 7: Volcanoos de Meir's eyebrow, You know, I want one of

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Speaker 7: those in my eyebrow. My eyebrows so goddamn thick. I

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Speaker 7: think I could use a scar like that that would

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Speaker 7: just take out half the hair, all right. Internship Applications

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Speaker 7: for twenty twenty two are now closed thanks to everybody

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Speaker 7: who reached out Anna Florin podcast at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 6: So we're gonna pare it down to twelve candidates or so.

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Speaker 7: Then we're gonna figure out away potentially for you guys

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Speaker 7: to compete against each other for the spot. We may

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Speaker 7: leverage our voicemail line, but we will announce our new

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Speaker 7: antik imploring podcast intern for twenty twenty two on an

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Speaker 7: episode before the end of the year. And I'm hoping

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Speaker 7: that it's a woman, but I think mostly it's guys

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Speaker 7: who have been who have been reaching out. If you

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Speaker 7: want any Anak and Florian podcast merchandise, we are constantly

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Speaker 7: Ken Flow's YouTube channel is off and run. And of course,

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Speaker 7: and don't forget remember the show with Balal Muhammad and

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Speaker 7: Jason Anna coming up this Thursday night on this very channel.

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Speaker 7: Very interesting to see if there's any comsat chimay have

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Speaker 7: talk out of Balal on remember the show. Thank you

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Speaker 7: to our guest Ray long ago, James Krause, Joe Osborne.

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Speaker 7: Thanks to Hasbala for the picture over the weekend the

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Speaker 7: years old.

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Speaker 6: Did he clock you? By the way, he did not

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Speaker 6: hit He didn't.

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Speaker 7: I don't think he enjoyed taking a photo with me

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Speaker 7: as much as Daniel cormiern't necessarily. But next Monday we

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Speaker 7: are right back full recap of UFC two sixty eight,

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Speaker 7: and then we will also preview Max Holloway on Yeah

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Speaker 7: you Rodriguez. That is the main event November thirteenth. Our

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Speaker 7: executive producer is Cody Merrow. Thanks to DraftKings and on

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Speaker 7: Shark and everybody else. Can flow have a great week?

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Speaker 7: You're working this week? What do you got this week?

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Speaker 10: Brother?

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Speaker 6: I got nothing going on. I got h well, I

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Speaker 6: got my parents in town. They're in Third Town visiting,

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Speaker 6: which is nice. That's exciting. Yeah. Man, all right, we

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Speaker 6: get Gusts on the pod. Yeah, seriously, is he there

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Speaker 6: right now? He just walked in the door somewhere. No way, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: is he in your office right now?

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Speaker 7: Because if he was in your office right now, I

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Speaker 7: was gonna put him on camera. We love you, doctor,

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Speaker 7: Florian and Neez have a great time with the family.

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Speaker 7: Thanks to everybody for listening, for watching, for subscribing, Tell

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Speaker 7: your friends, tell your fucking friends, and we'll talk to

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Speaker 7: you next Monday.

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Speaker 6: You'll later.

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