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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, This is Gazelle Bryant, one half of the

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Speaker 1: hit podcast Reasonably Shady on the Black Effect Podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: You also might know me as one of the stars

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Speaker 1: of the Real Housewives of Potomac. But today it's all

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Speaker 1: about being reasonable with no shade required. I'll be sitting

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Speaker 1: down for a conversation with a few names you know,

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Speaker 1: including another member of the Black Effect family, DJ Envy.

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Speaker 1: He's a radio Hall of Famer and a founding member

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Speaker 1: of the Breakfast Club. We're getting together to talk about

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Speaker 1: historically black colleges and universities HBCUs, one of my favorite subjects.

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Speaker 1: NV and I are both Hampton University alumni, and we

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Speaker 1: carry so much pride for the school that helps shape

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Speaker 1: us into what we are today. We hope that many

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Speaker 1: more kids across the country can share the same experiences

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Speaker 1: that we did, and our special guest feels exactly the

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Speaker 1: same way. NBA superstar Chris Paul is working to make

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Speaker 1: sure that the next generation of black excellence will thrive.

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Speaker 1: Since two thousand and five, the Chris Paul Family Foundation

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Speaker 1: has been striving to positively impact individuals and families by

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Speaker 1: leveling the playing field and education, sports and life. So

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Speaker 1: let's learn a little bit more about Chris's foundation and

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Speaker 1: why HBCUs mean so much to him. Here's our conversation,

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Speaker 1: presented by State Farm, like a good neighbor. State Farm

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Speaker 1: is there. Hey, what up? Y'all's dj V and I'm

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Speaker 1: here with my sister, Gizelle Briant, my Hampton alumni sister.

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Speaker 1: Now we both intended an HBCU, all right, a couple

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Speaker 1: of years apart, which I was a little older than me.

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Speaker 1: I would have to say. But but you know, let's

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Speaker 1: start off with you know h BCU. Get why did

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Speaker 1: you decide to attend an HBCU. You know, NV, I

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Speaker 1: have to tell you, I really lucked up on going

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Speaker 1: to an HPCU. My dad went to a black college,

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Speaker 1: and he was nudging me in that direction. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know it, but he was. You know, my dad was

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Speaker 1: very influential in the civil rights movement. He's all about

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Speaker 1: empowering the black community and doing what's best for us.

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Speaker 1: But when I got there is when I figured out

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Speaker 1: I was where I was supposed to be. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was looking around and I was seeing people that

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Speaker 1: had the same background as me, that looked like me,

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Speaker 1: that talk like me. Thought like me, and I realized, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is special, right, this is family, This is a

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Speaker 1: community that cares about each other. And you know, black people,

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Speaker 1: we live different, we love different, we learned different. So

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Speaker 1: I was at a place where I was learning with

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Speaker 1: people that knew how to learn like I knew how

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Speaker 1: to learn. Got you. It was an experience that I'm

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Speaker 1: so grateful for. You know, you know you're running too

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Speaker 1: people all the time. They went to Hampton and they

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Speaker 1: running the point you're like hampted class or whatever, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's pride, it's legacy. Um. Now my children are

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Speaker 1: all in high school, have three girls, have Chris how

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Speaker 1: you know? I have three girls and they're looking at

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Speaker 1: at colleges and unlike me, they're not lucking up on

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Speaker 1: an HPCU. They're looking for which black college is best

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Speaker 1: for them. So I'm super excited about that because they

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Speaker 1: understand how important special it is. You know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: the energy, it's the you can't really explain the feeling.

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Speaker 1: I have to live it, and they want that experience

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Speaker 1: for themselves. So I'm so excited about it. Yeah, for myself,

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Speaker 1: I was the only the first person of my family

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Speaker 1: a choice. I had to go to HBCU. My parents

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Speaker 1: was like, you don't have a choice. And the reason

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Speaker 1: I went to Hampton is because I watched The Different

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Speaker 1: I knew. So I was like, I want to go there.

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Speaker 1: That's where I want to go. That's where I wanted

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Speaker 1: Hampton University. Now we have Chris Paul here, and Chris

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Speaker 1: Paul has the Family Foundation which really really pushes different communities,

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Speaker 1: definitely our communities. And if you follow Chris Paul or

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Speaker 1: you watch Chris Paul and you watch his games, he

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Speaker 1: always reps HBCUs, different HBCUs, different games, and he pushes

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Speaker 1: it to the next level. So let's let's ask you

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Speaker 1: why do you feel it's so important to you know,

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Speaker 1: even know you went to Hampton and for me, I

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Speaker 1: up around HBCUs. Right, So I grew up around Ant Central,

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Speaker 1: win Salem State, all these different schools. My brother actually

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Speaker 1: So I grew up around all these different HBCUs. But

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Speaker 1: you know, they say when you know better, you do better.

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Speaker 1: I started doing a lot of research on HBCUs and

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Speaker 1: started understanding why they even exists, right, So a lot

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Speaker 1: of people don't know why I exist in the funding

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Speaker 1: have that same class at North Carolina ante at Clark Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I think we're doing at FAMU, and it's about exposure.

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Speaker 1: one thing I would say about HBCUs, A lot of

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Speaker 1: times they don't have the funding right And just like

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Speaker 1: and a lot of the HBCUs didn't have that as

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Speaker 1: a major where they teach you. How So, what do

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Speaker 1: catch up with some of those other universities that you name,

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Speaker 1: like a Harvard or Yale or an NYU. What do

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Speaker 1: the sports department, HBCUs didn't recruit me, not saying I

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Speaker 1: all to went there, but now wherever you go to school,

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Speaker 1: unbelievably successful. I did an interview with Spike Lee about

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Speaker 1: when people graduate, they go and they come give money back, right,

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Speaker 1: So we got to try to continue to get the

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Speaker 1: but why do you think that the great kids coming

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Speaker 1: It just wasn't, you know, it was the blue bloods.

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Speaker 1: because that was the only way you could get that exposure.

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Speaker 1: But now with social media and all this stuff, I'm

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Speaker 1: also a week in this year, you know the All

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Speaker 1: is the Slam Dunk and then the All Star This year,

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Speaker 1: you guys put an HBCU game in the middle of that.

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Speaker 1: What made you guys decide to do that? I mean

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Speaker 1: our power and our influence, right, Just telling the league.

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Speaker 1: understanding that these kids, that these HBCUs, they need the platform,

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Speaker 1: and then it would like kind of trickle throughout the school.

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Speaker 1: I think we just need to highlight it more. I

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Speaker 1: highlight those players that went to an HBCU that made

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Speaker 1: see on television is not necessarily HBCU. So, like Chris said,

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Speaker 1: once we start going to those schools, they have to

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Speaker 1: highlight it. They have no choice. But I was gonna ask,

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Speaker 1: What makes what gives you the drive to continue on

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