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Speaker 1: Welcome into North Side Territory Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Sahadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are

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Speaker 1: your Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick, the

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Speaker 1: Cubs lose two to three to the Giants. You know,

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Speaker 1: not a lot of that series. They played good baseball.

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Speaker 1: They you know, the offense didn't show up for one game,

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Speaker 1: which you know, these are the types of things that

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Speaker 1: happen over the course of the season. We'll see if

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Speaker 1: that's a trend, but right now, it's nothing, nothing that

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Speaker 1: anybody should be concerned about, right so we just kind

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Speaker 1: of look at these games individually. Is outside of one inning,

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Speaker 1: I have to say that the Cubs played really well.

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Speaker 1: I think they pitched well, mostly hit and that eleventh

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Speaker 1: inning on Tuesday is what people are going to focus

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Speaker 1: on from this series, from this uh, you know, from

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Speaker 1: this week and it and it is it is a

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Speaker 1: big topic, and it's what's wrong with Brian Presley. This

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Speaker 1: doesn't come out of the blue. We we understood that

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Speaker 1: he was not perfect when he came when the season started,

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Speaker 1: he was it was not very good. He was getting

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Speaker 1: through outings, but he looked off. I felt like something

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Speaker 1: was clicking there. Then the knee popped up, and he's

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Speaker 1: been fine getting through stuff, but hasn't pitched a ton.

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Speaker 1: And then Tuesday was that that was historically bad. You

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Speaker 1: you were, you were there to watch it all unfold

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Speaker 1: it Wrigally. I mean it was I was. I'd gotten

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Speaker 1: home by that point, and it was it was one

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Speaker 1: of those things where you're watching and you're like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how he gets anyone out, and that's kind

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Speaker 1: of what that's happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, rewind back to that tenth then,

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Speaker 2: I mean the Cubs were in position, Pete Carl Armstrong

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Speaker 2: at the plate, Dansby Swanson hit a rocket, you know,

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Speaker 2: right at Matt Chapman at third base. If it's not

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Speaker 2: Matt Chapman, or maybe if it's you know, hit one

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Speaker 2: way or the other just slightly, Cubs win that game.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Presley doesn't come out, and maybe, yeah, I guess

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Speaker 2: maybe the meltdown happens Wednesday afternoon at Wrigley, But you're right,

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Speaker 2: like it wasn't just that one outing. It was this

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Speaker 2: sort of mystery surrounding Presley, who you know, had his

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Speaker 2: knee drained. Like you mentioned has just not pitched a lot.

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Speaker 2: Part of that was game situations. It felt like he

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Speaker 2: had turned a corner kind of that West Coast trip.

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Speaker 2: He had looked pretty good against the Dodgers and the

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Speaker 2: Padres out west, and you know, to his credit, Presley

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Speaker 2: showed up at his locker so that I didn't do

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Speaker 2: my job. Cubs pitching coach Tommy Hottevey said, you know,

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Speaker 2: Presley was at the park at like eight am on Wednesday, saying,

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Speaker 2: you know, I couldn't sleep anyways, might as well get

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Speaker 2: back to work. It's just one of those things where

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Speaker 2: if you're a Cubs fan, you felt like you've kind

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Speaker 2: of seen this before, right of like getting a guy

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Speaker 2: who has a track record but is aging and had

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Speaker 2: been with the Houston Astros. And I still think there's

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Speaker 2: a way for him to be an effective part of

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Speaker 2: this bullpen. I just don't know when we're going to

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Speaker 2: see Presley in like a high leverage situation again or

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Speaker 2: closing out a game.

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Speaker 3: I know they say they won't.

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Speaker 2: Avoid that, but I think at this point, you know

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Speaker 2: you're going to see him when the Cubs are down

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Speaker 2: or if they have a huge lead, and I think

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Speaker 2: that's what they have to do.

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Speaker 3: He just needs work.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I agree with that, he needs he needs work.

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Speaker 1: I think, uh, they're not going to come out and say,

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Speaker 1: like Counsel doesn't seem to be the type that says

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Speaker 1: I'm removing him as closer. It's a you know, councol

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Speaker 1: is very straightforward with us and honest with us. But

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Speaker 1: things like that where like I am moving Dansby Swanson

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Speaker 1: down to the eight hole. You know, like he doesn't

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Speaker 1: say it, he just does these things and then afterwards

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Speaker 1: you can ask him about it right after it's done.

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Speaker 1: The you know, when when Ryan Presley isn't used in

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Speaker 1: three straight moments that made sense for him to be used,

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Speaker 1: then then Craig Counsel will answer the question about it.

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Speaker 1: But right now he's not going to say Ryan Presley

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Speaker 1: is not closing. Tommy Hodeby said they're not avoiding him

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Speaker 1: in those situations. I want to give them, give him

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Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt and the Cubs the benefit

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Speaker 1: of the doubt. I I do think and what you

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Speaker 1: said is is completely accurate. Cubs fans are going to

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Speaker 1: feel burned here and not and a lot of them

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Speaker 1: are not going to want to give any leeway here

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Speaker 1: understandable after what happened last year with Hector neris but

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Speaker 1: not every picture that or every player that looks cooked

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Speaker 1: don't know. But the explanation Tommy how to Be gave

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Speaker 1: was he's lacking deception, right, and that's causing the issue

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Speaker 1: with swing and miss. You said the West Coast trip,

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Speaker 1: he looked good. I'm just quickly looking here. So it

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Speaker 1: was tech like he stopped walking guys around the early April.

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Speaker 1: He stopped walking guys at this insane clip and it

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Speaker 1: was Texas. Then at LA at San Diego, three outings

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Speaker 1: and he he was missing bats. He was getting solid

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Speaker 1: swing and miss or at least some swing and miss.

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Speaker 1: He struck out a batter one of the three batters

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Speaker 1: he faced. I believe in LA and San Diego got

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Speaker 1: good swing and miss. Didn't strike anyone out against Texas,

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Speaker 1: strike rate of an outing of this season. Like those

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Speaker 1: those are the issues that he has. It's swinging strikes

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Speaker 1: really bad rate. I want to say one eligible reliever,

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Speaker 1: I wrote this yesterday, one eligible reliever had worse strikeout rate,

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Speaker 1: and only two eligible relievers have a worse swinging strike rate.

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Speaker 1: So swinging strike rate, if you don't know, it's just

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Speaker 1: the swing and miss. It's just how often they swing

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Speaker 1: and then the knee injury kind of started bugging him,

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Speaker 1: and then the swing and miss goes away. So it

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Speaker 1: was kind of lying up with what they're saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he developed some bad habits that now they're seeing the

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Speaker 1: ball better, and now his knees bothering him. They can't

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Speaker 1: work on getting these things right. Uh, And and now

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Speaker 1: they have to work on it, and he needs to

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Speaker 1: go out there and get that right. So maybe it's real.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's the issue. And he goes out there and

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Speaker 1: and he and he looks a lot better and he

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Speaker 1: starts getting swing and miss in two weeks. Right that

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Speaker 1: that's that's very possible. Uh. I. I just I can't

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Speaker 1: fault Cubs fans for saying I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: patient for this. And and you know what, Uh, they

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Speaker 1: don't really have to. Uh yeah, we why don't we

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Speaker 1: take a quick break, Patrick, and then we can discuss

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Speaker 1: the bullpens actually in decent shape here. If you don't

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Speaker 1: focus on Ryan Presley.

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Speaker 1: Patrick, I want fans to ignore ras for a moment,

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Speaker 1: right this, you know.

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Speaker 3: So we can put some picture wins, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean relief pictures and their eras, especially

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Speaker 1: what is it May. We're recording this on May eighth.

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Speaker 1: Their eras can be super distorted. So let me just

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Speaker 1: look here. What is Porter Hodge is at four point five?

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Speaker 1: Are you worried about Porter Hodge right now out of

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Speaker 1: the bullpen? I don't really think he's a major concern.

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Speaker 1: He I'd like him to stop walking guys as much

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Speaker 1: he gets strikeouts, he's he limits damage, He's not going

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Speaker 1: Porter Hodge is the guy that you go to if

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Speaker 1: it's not just Porter Hodge. Daniel Palencia looks so much

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Speaker 1: better than he did last year. Brad Keller great, great reliever.

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Speaker 1: He gets ground balls, he misses bats, he doesn't walk

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Speaker 1: really figured things out. Drew Pomerantz. He's throwing the same

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Speaker 1: bad outing when Shoda got hurt. That's a really tough

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Speaker 1: like what he's doing. I want him to strict more

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Speaker 1: probably missing someone that's doing pretty well. Gavin Hollowell has

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think.

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Speaker 2: The Cubs have a pretty good track record with this,

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Speaker 2: and part of it is they have to kind of

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Speaker 2: That's looking at it historically. I think if you believe

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Speaker 2: he has done it for so long and that there

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Speaker 2: are these reasons why. I mean, going back to that

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 2: I think you give Craig Counsel this huge contract because

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Speaker 2: he has a good track record with managing the bullpen.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know as PCA mania died down in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel you can almost just bank on it

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Speaker 2: You know, it's not the same anymore because they see

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Speaker 2: This hasn't gone to his head, and I think all

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Speaker 2: There is really no ceiling on him at this point,

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Speaker 1: It's kind of it's weird. It's it's weird, it's a

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Speaker 1: air blue. All right, Patrick, The Cubs have three against

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Speaker 1: the Mets this weekend. It's going to be a fascinating weekend.

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Speaker 1: is pitching this weekend, we'll see. We'll talk about that

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