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Speaker 1: And welcome to another edition of the Fantasy Freestyle right
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Speaker 1: Cipher Um had a big show on Tuesday Live and
Speaker 1: direct from Studio thirty four. We finished off the American
Speaker 1: League Central. We're gonna start off the National League West
Speaker 1: as a new division preview to get you ready for
Speaker 1: the fantasy baseball season. Drafts are starting to get scheduled
Speaker 1: as you're getting ready for fantasy baseball, so we'll getna
Speaker 1: kick it off with the n L West preview. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you a little bit of look into I
Speaker 1: think we're gonna go into the arms of the NL
Speaker 1: West right now, We're gonna start that off. Then we
Speaker 1: go to the NFL. Listen to Combine is out there.
Speaker 1: We preview the quarterbacks that I wanted to see at
Speaker 1: the at the Combine. Want to see Lamar Jackson proves himself.
Speaker 1: Want to see if Kyle Loletta can keep his hot
Speaker 1: street going in terms of turning heads in this process. Um,
Speaker 1: the Combine, you know gonna be kicking off this week.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw when Nelson the guard
Speaker 1: out of Noted Dame putting up the bench press earlier
Speaker 1: this week. He could be an option for some of
Speaker 1: these top five teams shooting up the draft ward. I
Speaker 1: know they don't want to usually draft a guard that early.
Speaker 1: But the focus of our football conversation on this episode
Speaker 1: of The Fantasy Freestyle is actually going to be once
Speaker 1: again in about players safety and about head injuries. We
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Speaker 1: UM Thomas Lowe. He is going to join us a
Speaker 1: little bit later on in the show, and that's what
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about when we get into the NFL.
Speaker 1: But um. We also got a pull question up as always,
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Speaker 1: STA's overbeat cipher listen. There was a lot of conversation.
Speaker 1: We'll get into it. Also a little bit about them
Speaker 1: redefining a catch. We've been talking about this a lot
Speaker 1: in this offseason, the going to the ground part, that
Speaker 1: sort of thing. There's a lot of attention on that.
Speaker 1: But one of the things I find interesting is they
Speaker 1: are talking about changes to the past interference role as well,
Speaker 1: and I think this could be very very interesting. They're
Speaker 1: talking about changing past interference dp I defensive fast interference
Speaker 1: from a spot foul to a fifteen yard penalty. Okay,
Speaker 1: And there are definitely sometimes in the game where I
Speaker 1: love thrown ball deep downfield because what they say is
Speaker 1: two out of the three things that can happen are good.
Speaker 1: You know, you can get to catch or you can
Speaker 1: get the penalty. And that works just the same for
Speaker 1: the offense and may not work for your fantasy team.
Speaker 1: But if they're taking that away and making it a
Speaker 1: fifteen yard penalty, it could have an interesting impact on
Speaker 1: some offenses. But I actually do think it's a good idea.
Speaker 1: They do the same thing in college, and so that,
Speaker 1: in fact is our pole question in this episode. Do
Speaker 1: you think past interference down the field should be a
Speaker 1: spot foul or a fifteen yard penalty? Holl Edge boy
Speaker 1: at spitting speeds. Let me know, we got a lot
Speaker 1: of people participating right now. Um So, but what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do is we're gonna switch it up because listen,
Speaker 1: this is a down part of the football season, the
Speaker 1: new league year. So we're gonna get it. We're gonna
Speaker 1: push football to the back of this both sand Bow
Speaker 1: Jackson episode, both Sanders. I had both Bernie Sanders on
Speaker 1: my mind for some reason, but the Bow Jackson episode.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna start with baseball. Okay, listen, right now,
Speaker 1: pitches and catches of reported their spring training games going on.
Speaker 1: The biggest free agents still out there. We've been talking
Speaker 1: about this like lukewarm Stove, and now you know, spring
Speaker 1: training is going and still, in my opinion, the biggest
Speaker 1: name out there, Jake Arrietta still unsigned. Um boris client.
Speaker 1: You know, the Nats, the Phillies, the Brewers, all potentially
Speaker 1: still in on Jake Arietta. Question for me is will
Speaker 1: he eventually cave and take like a shorter deal. And
Speaker 1: you know, I've been saying for years that there's no
Speaker 1: reason that Pictures should be able to get a you know,
Speaker 1: six seven year deal the way how fragile they are.
Speaker 1: So that's the that's the name to watch in my opinion.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna do is. We're gonna go into the NLS.
Speaker 1: I told you we're gonna talk arms. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: arms of the n L wes. Excuse me, We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk arms of the n O West and listen. Last year,
Speaker 1: the Dodgers will obviously the class of this division. But
Speaker 1: I think there's some interesting bounce back potential and some
Speaker 1: interesting surprise potential in the arms here um in the NLS.
Speaker 1: If you want to start though with the Dodgers, of
Speaker 1: course you have cart saw check. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: When it comes to fantasy, you're either taking him in
Speaker 1: the first round or you're not gonna have him right
Speaker 1: And are you gonna be that person that drafts him?
Speaker 1: What five WI we're all six overall? I I personally
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it. I personally would rather these like one
Speaker 1: A two tier starters. If I'm gonna go starters at
Speaker 1: all heavy. But I'm not gonna have Kershaw on many
Speaker 1: of my teams. But I understand, go ahead, go get him.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, like last year, last year, my
Speaker 1: problem with the Dodgers rotation is last year they were
Speaker 1: in essence doing a six man rotation. I was talking
Speaker 1: about this last year. You know, what they did, to
Speaker 1: be quite honest, was artfully managed the d L, and
Speaker 1: they had guys that were often on the d L
Speaker 1: like whoa, I'm talking Rich Hill, I'm talking you know hin,
Speaker 1: John ryou Rias eventually went down and they're gonna do
Speaker 1: that again, okay with Alex Wood. Alex Wood twenty five starts,
Speaker 1: Rich Hill starts, tent starts, h John Yo starts. You know,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have Bueller and Verdugo probably even maybe make
Speaker 1: some starts this year. And I think they're gonna continue
Speaker 1: to try and do this. No wonder they needed you Darvish,
Speaker 1: you know, to try and eat innings. But they do
Speaker 1: not have him coming back this year. So I don't
Speaker 1: know that I liked him, because I don't know that
Speaker 1: they're gonna be defendable year. They're good, and they're shield stats,
Speaker 1: their strikeouts are there, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: these guys are guys with a hundred thirty innings pitch,
Speaker 1: things of that nature. You know, their low e r A.
Speaker 1: And you know even how Alex would was sick in
Speaker 1: the in the in his hundred fifty two innings pitch.
Speaker 1: But I'm just not I'm just not trusting those Dodgers
Speaker 1: starters after Clayton Kershaw. And to be a quite honest,
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be Dave downfall in the
Speaker 1: playoffs if they don't augment that by you know, trading
Speaker 1: from their depth, whether it be at outfield or elsewhere
Speaker 1: in their offense. What I'm really interested in is uh,
Speaker 1: out there in the bay, out there in the bay
Speaker 1: with the Giants. I am very very intrigued. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you right now. You know, like hot take, get
Speaker 1: ready to sweat some steam here in the Fantasy Freestyle
Speaker 1: which voice speeds. Madison bum Gardner is my SI young
Speaker 1: pick for the National League. Alright. I think he's coming
Speaker 1: back off a down year. You know, you people always
Speaker 1: forget about guys. You always just think it's you know
Speaker 1: it's it's it's such short term memory, you know, it's
Speaker 1: recentcy bias, and people are like, oh sures or oh
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. You know. Um, I think that Madison
Speaker 1: bump Gardner and Noah Synderguard are I too, dark horse
Speaker 1: candidates right there for cy Young. Those are guys I'm
Speaker 1: putting my shekels on. Okay, I think he's coming up
Speaker 1: bounced back years, so I'm thinking he's rested. But more importantly,
Speaker 1: the I love Masison Bumbgarder. He's an example of one
Speaker 1: of these Tier two high two starters one A starters
Speaker 1: that I would love to get a little bit later on,
Speaker 1: except of the first round of Clayton Kershaw. But I
Speaker 1: actually think the two most important pictures in this division
Speaker 1: are Johnny Kuato and Jeffson margin If they are healthy
Speaker 1: and solid like they have been with their strikeout rates
Speaker 1: in that ballpark as twos and threes, along with the
Speaker 1: offensive enhancements that this lineup has made, I think these
Speaker 1: guys get are the Giants could be prying for a
Speaker 1: bounce back season. In fact, I think they can milk
Speaker 1: out whatever they can out of Longoria, out of McCutcheon,
Speaker 1: out of Quato, you know, out of Posey again this year.
Speaker 1: I like the giants moving forward. I think these two
Speaker 1: are really two of the most important pictures in this division.
Speaker 1: But I do like um I'm I would be willing
Speaker 1: to take a shot with one or both of them
Speaker 1: above their a DP in Arizona. I personally have never
Speaker 1: been a fan of Zak Grinky. I have never been
Speaker 1: a fan of Zack Grinky. Um, so he won't be
Speaker 1: on any of my teams. But um, I am on
Speaker 1: Robbie Ray. I was on Robbie Ray last year. I
Speaker 1: was talking about him all last year's shot called by
Speaker 1: the boy speech to fit and statistician. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: a guy with a twelve point one strikeout per nine, Okay, um,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about two fifty strikeout potential. Okay, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about he had eleven point three strikeout for nine last year.
Speaker 1: So this is consistent from a left handed pitcher. Okay.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, everybody's gonna be on him this year.
Speaker 1: I was early with him last year. He's the kind
Speaker 1: of guy you want to find the next this year's
Speaker 1: version of this year, and I think it might be
Speaker 1: Danny Salazar, But that's or James Paxton. But that's besides
Speaker 1: the point. Okay. So I love Ray, but here's the
Speaker 1: thing I would I would go to some of these
Speaker 1: other guys. I like type one Walker. If he's healthy
Speaker 1: off the foot, that's another he's only twenty five years old.
Speaker 1: That's another power arm right there. And it seems like
Speaker 1: all these guys in Arizona between Grinky Ray Taiwan Walker,
Speaker 1: like Zach Godly was stable last year, Patrick Corban, I
Speaker 1: think these guys, these are streaming candidates. Godly and and
Speaker 1: and Corby are high end streaming candidates to me. Okay,
Speaker 1: Taiwan Walker is an interesting little risk reward play late
Speaker 1: in the draft in my opinion. Okay, Um, but these
Speaker 1: guys are power arms, and I like that out of Arizona.
Speaker 1: But I think you know you're gonna, unfortunately, you're gonna
Speaker 1: pref to overpay for Robbie Ray this year. Um. And
Speaker 1: you know Zach Granky, he makes me anxious, so I
Speaker 1: can't mess with him. But my, my, my, my surprise,
Speaker 1: to be quite honest, of this division is in San Diego.
Speaker 1: In San Diego, and this is this is this is
Speaker 1: where I want you people to listen. Okay, This is
Speaker 1: where stats over beat cipher getting ready for your draft.
Speaker 1: This is where I really I think it's really important. Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: the San Diego Padres pitching staff is going to surprise
Speaker 1: some people. Clayton Richard was incredibly solid for the first
Speaker 1: three and a half months last season, Okay. And he
Speaker 1: finished with a babbit against him a three fifty one.
Speaker 1: That is an outlier. Okay. He that that is going
Speaker 1: to regress down to the mean and he's gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: over be better for it. And he was solid last year.
Speaker 1: I think Clayton Richard is very interesting. Uh. Lament Dilson
Speaker 1: Lament also very very interesting. I'm I'm talking about a
Speaker 1: guy with a nearly eleven strikeout per nine innings, a
Speaker 1: young kid that's still learning to develop, had a four
Speaker 1: point two e r A okay, in only a hundred
Speaker 1: fourteen innings. He's the cannon kind of candidate that can
Speaker 1: get to one thirty five this year keep up his
Speaker 1: power arms, uh, you know, trending and like, could he
Speaker 1: be under four this year in that ballpark? I believe
Speaker 1: it's possible. Um, in a division where um, the Diamondbacks
Speaker 1: have a worse offense, uh than they did last year,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I think it's possible. Um and
Speaker 1: Perdomo couldn't prose slightly. Also, and here's the thing. Watch
Speaker 1: Tyson Ross also dark Horse, like diamond in the rough,
Speaker 1: true diamond in the rough. Okay, he was almost he
Speaker 1: was basically five hundred when he was when he was
Speaker 1: a kid in two thousand fourteen, not even kid in
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen. A few years ago with the Padres,
Speaker 1: he was an All Star one year. Okay, he averaged
Speaker 1: a three e r A. He averaged like two d
Speaker 1: and two strikeouts a year across like two two and
Speaker 1: a half years with the Padres, and like when he
Speaker 1: was on point. Maybe a return for him. And I
Speaker 1: think that is very, very interesting, my surprise team. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you San Diego Padres. I like Richard, I like Lament,
Speaker 1: I like the potential of Tyson Ross. Yo, get some
Speaker 1: bargain basement Padres. Because remember about this lineup also, I
Speaker 1: mean that's this nothing line up the ballpark that they
Speaker 1: are in, Okay, that's always something to consider people when
Speaker 1: they are pitching half their games at home. Like part
Speaker 1: of the reason you don't like the next team is
Speaker 1: the Colorado Rockies. Where I think it is still the
Speaker 1: worst pitching rotation in the n L West. You have
Speaker 1: the you have John Gray, okay, power, fastball, straight off,
Speaker 1: love it, but he's starting to become injury prone in
Speaker 1: my opinion, so I don't. I don't trust him. See,
Speaker 1: the thing is with me. If I'm gonna invest in
Speaker 1: drafting a starter, and that's and that's to be honest,
Speaker 1: why and on a lot of my teams, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't draft as many starters. I'm heavy on offense,
Speaker 1: I truly am. I gotta tell you, I'm heavy on
Speaker 1: offense when it comes to my drafts and my auctions
Speaker 1: coming up. Okay, my strategy is never really to win
Speaker 1: through the starting pitching because it's so flighty. It's so flighty.
Speaker 1: These pictures are so injury prone. They are not making
Speaker 1: the thirty starts a year you need from your horses
Speaker 1: in order to win your leagues and win that cash.
Speaker 1: It's just not happening. You know, you draft a third
Speaker 1: round outfielder or third basement that guy is going to
Speaker 1: play a hundred fifty games to you. You draft a
Speaker 1: third round starting pitcher and have him be your sp
Speaker 1: two and then he and then he goes down with
Speaker 1: a with a pinch nerve in his elbow in May,
Speaker 1: and that is much more likely, in my opinion, to
Speaker 1: happen to the starting pitching position than any other position
Speaker 1: in fantasy baseball. So I I stay away from it,
Speaker 1: to be quite honest. Okay, but um, if I'm going
Speaker 1: to invest in a starting pitching I'm not going to
Speaker 1: invest in the starting pitch ye that plays half of
Speaker 1: his games at coors Field. Okay, So John Great can
Speaker 1: have his power for US ball, But the thing is,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna really have how much
Speaker 1: more than a ten innings is he gonna be? You know?
Speaker 1: The same way I said it about I think Dilson Lament,
Speaker 1: you know, and those games instead of in San Diego
Speaker 1: would be in course, So I'm not sure about that.
Speaker 1: And the same thing about you know Tyler chat with
Speaker 1: Tyler Anderson bettis these are guys with all four point
Speaker 1: five year r A and remember that ballbark, So I
Speaker 1: don't like them. When it comes to the arms, I'm
Speaker 1: telling me my diamonds and the rough. I love these padres,
Speaker 1: Tyson Ross, Dilson Lament. I like the arms in in
Speaker 1: San Francisco as well in the Bay to two and three.
Speaker 1: I like some margin maybe in Quato this year, if quato,
Speaker 1: if quato. If you're telling me Johnny Quato makes twenty
Speaker 1: eight starts this year, and Madison Bumgardner does as well,
Speaker 1: and some margin does as well. I'll show you a
Speaker 1: Giant's team that is in contention in August with the
Speaker 1: wherewithal to make a move. Okay, So those are also
Speaker 1: diamonds in the fu gazes for me and the arms
Speaker 1: up telling you. I'm also I told you how Zac
Speaker 1: Granky makes me anxious. The other part about this is
Speaker 1: he's going into his age thirty four season. Okay. He
Speaker 1: has thrown over a hundred and seventy innings in his
Speaker 1: last and six of his last seven years. Okay, two
Speaker 1: hundred and two winnings pitch last year. Okay, that is
Speaker 1: a ballpark where the ball flies out. He's getting older.
Speaker 1: To me, he's in the n L West Fantasy. Fool
Speaker 1: Gazzy forgot about him. He makes me a little too anxious.
Speaker 1: You know, don the jeweler knows what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Those are some diamonds and fool gazes. What I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do is I'm gonna give you my UM, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you my predictions for the n L West. Um,
Speaker 1: when we do it, you know, next week out there
Speaker 1: and live in Studio thirty four, I will say this,
Speaker 1: I do like the Dodgers. I do think the Padres
Speaker 1: are in the back, but you know, going in the
Speaker 1: right direction. And I I like the Giants. I gotta
Speaker 1: say I do like the Giants. Will see how much
Speaker 1: maybe next week when we holler at it, when we
Speaker 1: continue our n L West preview. What I do want
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Speaker 1: the little Welcome back to the Fantasy Freestyle. It's boy
Speaker 1: Dane Martine spsas fitting statistician, stables, vocal minority. You know
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Speaker 1: representing the hashtags statute over beat, cipher. I told you
Speaker 1: we got the past interference call question up on the
Speaker 1: pole at spitting speed. You can holler at your boy.
Speaker 1: I want to get into some quick news notes around
Speaker 1: the NFL at this time of year. What you're gonna
Speaker 1: hear about is a lot of veterans getting cut it
Speaker 1: towards the end of the year. Teams are trying to
Speaker 1: clear cap space, and we're seeing a lot of that
Speaker 1: in this week. Okay, the Panthers of cut running back
Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewart, he's there all time leading rusher. Okay, Jets
Speaker 1: running back Matt Forte announced his retirement. The Colts announced
Speaker 1: they will not resign Frank Gore. This is what we
Speaker 1: were seeing this the stages of the NFL season. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have then after this is you know, the circle
Speaker 1: of life in the NFL. Though, because we have the
Speaker 1: combine where some of these young kids are gonna be
Speaker 1: running around in their underwear lifting weights and stuff like that. Um,
Speaker 1: and so it continues, instead of Frank Gore, You're gonna
Speaker 1: be here in the name, you know, Darius Geiss instead.
Speaker 1: You know, instead of Matt Forte, They're gonna be here
Speaker 1: in the name Nick Chubb instead. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: You're gonna be hearing these kinds of names, se Quon Barkley,
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones, Sony Michelle, Elijah Penny. Um, I think these
Speaker 1: are shot Penny. Excuse me, these guys are gonna be hearing.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be very interesting. Alright, so the combine.
Speaker 1: But one of the things that also happened is kind
Speaker 1: of like the league meetings. You know, they're the commit
Speaker 1: competition committee meets. We're talking about what is the catch
Speaker 1: the past interference. But what it's also happened checking this out,
Speaker 1: we have more comments at a Chief Medical officers. Okay,
Speaker 1: and and and it's interesting because I talked about the
Speaker 1: the concussion issue and how that the number went up,
Speaker 1: and I actually said on a previous episode of Fantasy
Speaker 1: Freestyle that I think that's a good thing. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, because then they were identifying it more.
Speaker 1: We're taking people out when they have this, and that's
Speaker 1: good for players safety, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: it sounds like Dr Allan Still, who is the Chief
Speaker 1: Medical Medical Officer of the NFL, disagrees. He says the
Speaker 1: increase in concussions up to two a quote unquote call
Speaker 1: to action. Does not in fact believe that what I
Speaker 1: was saying is like that. It's good because you're identifying it,
Speaker 1: you're raising awareness. He says, quote, it's not okay to
Speaker 1: simply stand behind that and say, well, the numbers are
Speaker 1: going up because we're doing a better job. I think,
Speaker 1: to me, it's really a call to action to see
Speaker 1: what we can do to drive it down. And I
Speaker 1: think that's exactly the bad wrong mentality. We're not looking
Speaker 1: to drive it down artificially per se. Of course we
Speaker 1: all were proper technique and things like that, But like
Speaker 1: I think, at this part of the cycle of our
Speaker 1: education of this, it's important that, for example, they are
Speaker 1: now saying that of conclussions involved addressing it with a
Speaker 1: medical official, and that that is the highest efforts. So
Speaker 1: that is a good thing. But to me and that's
Speaker 1: the highest ever we're addressed by a medical official. Shouldn't
Speaker 1: it be like a hundred? That's absolutely crazy? And and
Speaker 1: also still nine of the NFL um had a concussion
Speaker 1: this year. Okay, So I don't know why you're trying
Speaker 1: to necessarily drive it down. I think we have to
Speaker 1: accept that this is a risk in this game on
Speaker 1: some level and get better with technique, get better with equipment,
Speaker 1: get better with science and data. But this idea for
Speaker 1: me of thinking you need to quote unquote drive it
Speaker 1: down sounds a little bit artificial to me. I think,
Speaker 1: saye for helmets, I think educational warning signs, rule changes,
Speaker 1: you know, And I think we should be glass half
Speaker 1: half half full about this. And I was even more
Speaker 1: encouraged when I talked to my my boy, you know,
Speaker 1: friend to the cipher Dilly dilly hashtag status over beat
Speaker 1: hashtag dilly dilly uh license certified athletic trainer, Thomas Lowe.
Speaker 1: I had a chance to catch up with him, you
Speaker 1: remember him, so, um, let me play you some of
Speaker 1: that conversation, because I think it's really insightful. He's he's
Speaker 1: kind of with me, and I like having a a
Speaker 1: medical opinion that agrees with me when I go up
Speaker 1: against the league because they called me ignorant last time
Speaker 1: when I talked about Cam Newton. Hashtag all quarterbacks matter,
Speaker 1: hashtag all brains matter. But UM, check out my conversation
Speaker 1: with Thomas Lowe. You know what it is? Alright, everybody,
Speaker 1: So here in the Fantasy Freestyle, we are back. And
Speaker 1: you know, if you listen to the Fantasy Freestyle, you
Speaker 1: listen to the show, you know we've had our next
Speaker 1: guest on before. This is license certified athletic trainer Thomas Lowe.
Speaker 1: He's been with us before, talking a lot about players safety,
Speaker 1: talking a lot about from everything from the concussion protocol
Speaker 1: to uh adam meastion your urine for hydration. And we
Speaker 1: welcome Thomas Lowe back on the show. How are you
Speaker 1: doing Thomas? All right, Dane, how are you? We're doing good.
Speaker 1: We're doing good. Thanks again for making the time and listen.
Speaker 1: You know we've talked to you now about I don't
Speaker 1: know three or four times, maybe really focused around players
Speaker 1: safety and around head trauma and UM I wanted to
Speaker 1: kind of bring you on after the season and just
Speaker 1: ask you, you know, do you think do you think
Speaker 1: UM progress has been made and at least kind of
Speaker 1: shining a light on how important uh you know, head
Speaker 1: trauma and player safety is generally, like, are you hearing
Speaker 1: about it more in your field? The dangers of CPE,
Speaker 1: the dangers of playing football, because where where is this at?
Speaker 1: In your opinion? Yes, great gains are being made about
Speaker 1: keeping players safe, learning more about how to better diagnose him,
Speaker 1: learning better how to manage them. Um, a lot of
Speaker 1: options coming up to so I'm not certain what you
Speaker 1: want to discuss. If you may read lots some of
Speaker 1: the things that been Uh yeah, sure that was about
Speaker 1: the things you've seen. We're we're we're hearing a lot
Speaker 1: of evidence with the CTE on that it is about hits,
Speaker 1: not just concussions. It's hits. And but the thing is,
Speaker 1: we don't know what the hit count is. But the
Speaker 1: nice thing is right out and some other companies actually
Speaker 1: have these accelerometers in the helmet. We actually have them
Speaker 1: now too, and they could actually easily turn that on
Speaker 1: where right now we have it set where based on
Speaker 1: a certain g force impacted alerts us and says, hey,
Speaker 1: we need to have a conversation with that kid. I
Speaker 1: think I told you about these last time we talked,
Speaker 1: but they could easily turn us into just a hit count.
Speaker 1: We could lower the sensitivity or just the sensitivity. Once
Speaker 1: we find out what is that impact, what is what
Speaker 1: constitutes a hit? You know? That's uh that inns of
Speaker 1: like pounds of pressure of force in each hit. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna be discussed because there's some variation with
Speaker 1: a rotary hit. And you also don't have to get
Speaker 1: hit in your your had to get a concussion to
Speaker 1: get hit in your body. But but the CT stuff
Speaker 1: is showing you what hits to the head is. They're
Speaker 1: showing there some relationship or correlation there. But like what
Speaker 1: constitutes a hit, we don't know. That's not quite as
Speaker 1: black and white as a picture. With the pitch count
Speaker 1: that he throws so many with the hit that's still
Speaker 1: you know, being determined. So that's interesting news to kind
Speaker 1: of keep an eye. You know. The thing is if
Speaker 1: we keep an eye on that, and we get these
Speaker 1: little guys high schoolers, college and helmet, we can we
Speaker 1: can keep track of that and then eventually if we
Speaker 1: find out what that hit is, then they'll kind of
Speaker 1: be armed with some running history of of how much
Speaker 1: they've suffered you know, in their time. Another thing that
Speaker 1: we're saying almost uh, Thomas, let me ask you, would
Speaker 1: you be almost able to like pinpoint then when the
Speaker 1: player is at greatest risk? Would this be a measure
Speaker 1: of kind of like wear and tear? I know you
Speaker 1: may be analogy to like any pitched or a pitch
Speaker 1: count on an arm with Are you saying then that
Speaker 1: they're working to establish kind of a certain oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe threshold where after that amount of trauma
Speaker 1: or amount of hits to the head, you're an even
Speaker 1: greater risk of brain trauma. Those are the questions that
Speaker 1: are being asked right now. So there seems to be
Speaker 1: evidence that it's hits. Not necessarily that you've had a
Speaker 1: diagnosable concussion, but it's hits, it's repeated trauma to the head.
Speaker 1: So right now we have more questions and answers in
Speaker 1: terms of that goes. So, you know, we just need
Speaker 1: to gather more more data. We're learning. We're learning at
Speaker 1: an incredibly fast pace because guess what, everybody's paying attention now, right,
Speaker 1: and so I guess that's step one. Right. The awareness
Speaker 1: is out there, it has been so front and center,
Speaker 1: and that brings me to one of the questions I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, Thomas, Um, you know, the NFL
Speaker 1: actually reported that there was increase in concussions this year
Speaker 1: in the NFL up to two one that we're actually diagnosed,
Speaker 1: and they're saying that there was forty five that were
Speaker 1: actually diagnosed in practice. Now some people are saying that this,
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of a warning that they still
Speaker 1: need to get it under control, whether it be with
Speaker 1: equipment or whether it be with training on the right
Speaker 1: way to tackle. I've actually on air, Thomas argued the
Speaker 1: opposite that identifying this number may actually be a good thing,
Speaker 1: because that means they are getting you know, diagnosed, identified,
Speaker 1: and the players are then sitting out the way they
Speaker 1: should to be able to recover. Specifically, they've noticed that
Speaker 1: forty five have happened in practice, and to me, that's
Speaker 1: something that you didn't really hear about much, players getting
Speaker 1: concussions in practice and then you know, having to sit out.
Speaker 1: So maybe it's actually a good thing. What's your take
Speaker 1: on that this increase in diagnosed concussions not just the prose.
Speaker 1: It's not just surprose in the NFL, it's it's colleges,
Speaker 1: it's high schools. It's it's all levels and it just
Speaker 1: has to do with awareness. And I don't think there's
Speaker 1: any more concussions. They're being reported. People now don't know
Speaker 1: what a concussion is. Players now know what a concussion is.
Speaker 1: Coaches no better what a concussion is. There's less denial,
Speaker 1: there's less covering up, there's less masking, there's less playing
Speaker 1: through the pain. There's everybody's where the ramifications now, So
Speaker 1: there's just more being reported. I don't really think there's
Speaker 1: more of them. There's just more awareness and sensitivity to
Speaker 1: him now I see. So one of the biggest things,
Speaker 1: you know, there are a couple of you know, separate
Speaker 1: occurrences this season, Thomas, where some players were you know,
Speaker 1: um checked out and ultimately cleared to be back on
Speaker 1: a couple of specific cases around Tom Savage with Uston
Speaker 1: maybe Cam Newton in the playoffs. And one of the
Speaker 1: things the NFL didn't response Thomas is to add the
Speaker 1: number of what they call u n c s, which
Speaker 1: are unaffiliated neurology uh neurology consultants. These are not team doctors,
Speaker 1: supposed to be independently objective people that have the ability
Speaker 1: to pull players out of the game. Um, do you
Speaker 1: think this is a step in the right direction. Yes,
Speaker 1: I do. It's actually part of their concussion you know,
Speaker 1: checklist as far as their protocol. That's one thing that's
Speaker 1: that's unique, UM at that level compared to mine, is
Speaker 1: that this independent neurologist and what it is that prevents
Speaker 1: a conflict of interest because anybody that's really with their
Speaker 1: team and as you get a meshed in with the
Speaker 1: success of your team and the rise and fall, it's
Speaker 1: it's really easy for us and we have to constantly
Speaker 1: fight the medical people. We have to constantly fight making
Speaker 1: cheerleading decisions. And some of the most sleepless nights I
Speaker 1: can recall in my career would be wasn't making a
Speaker 1: cheerleading decision, wasn't making a good medical decision? And then
Speaker 1: that was probably my greatest point of wisdom in my career,
Speaker 1: is learning how to monitor myself when I wasn't to
Speaker 1: not make a cheerleading decision because it's a conflict of interest.
Speaker 1: So having independent neurologist prevents that conflict of interesting. It
Speaker 1: makes it a pure medical decision without without you know,
Speaker 1: being conflicted with being a cheerleader for your team. Sore.
Speaker 1: But what about this, Thomas. I mean, we talk about
Speaker 1: how they're unaffiliated, and I completely get that, how the
Speaker 1: team doctor maybe vested in certain players. You know, I
Speaker 1: was railing about this, Like, let's say a complete stud
Speaker 1: like a Tom Brady or Drew Brees, you know, gotten
Speaker 1: banged up in a game, there'd be a lot of
Speaker 1: pressure to put them back out there. And I completely
Speaker 1: understand that. But these unaffiliated consultants, they aren't they also
Speaker 1: on some level with a conflict of interest given the
Speaker 1: fact they are paid by the NFL, you know, So
Speaker 1: don't they have some level of that conflict as well?
Speaker 1: Or do you think it's possible to truly be unaffiliated.
Speaker 1: You talk about cheerleading decisions, what about kind of financial decisions.
Speaker 1: Don't you kind of want to be in rotation of
Speaker 1: the doctors that are in good graces with the league?
Speaker 1: I don't. That's a that's a tough question. Uh, It's
Speaker 1: it's tough in terms of somebody's financial motivation. But I
Speaker 1: don't know what they're what they're getting paid. I don't
Speaker 1: really I can't really comment on what would what would
Speaker 1: drive them? I would my thinking is that they're in
Speaker 1: integrity and they're making salid you know, decisions for their patient,
Speaker 1: not with the conflict of interest to be there. So,
Speaker 1: because the NFL really is trying to do stuff right,
Speaker 1: everybody's trying to do stuff right, and so by doing
Speaker 1: this is they don't want to get in trouble any further.
Speaker 1: They want to make sure that are doing doing the
Speaker 1: right thing. And one of the ways this is their protocol.
Speaker 1: Nobody made them insert you know, a third party to
Speaker 1: come in and do that. So that's a way for
Speaker 1: them to protect themselves. Sure, so let's not talk about
Speaker 1: their intent or their interests. I want to ask just
Speaker 1: about the feasibility. There's also am an enhancement that they
Speaker 1: made to this procedure, Thomas. Around the playoffs, they even
Speaker 1: have a um U n SEE, an unaffiliated neurology consultant
Speaker 1: centrally located in New York watching the games kind of
Speaker 1: like they do for instant replay now. And that person
Speaker 1: also has the ability to kind of buzz and yank
Speaker 1: someone and they're saying that they're they're able to notice
Speaker 1: that some of these features from the television feed um
Speaker 1: you know, specifically, they're talking about stumbling when trying to
Speaker 1: get up and what they call the fencing posture, and
Speaker 1: they don't talk more about the fencing posture and if
Speaker 1: that's even feasible to see that on VEGIL. Yeah, these
Speaker 1: are spotters. They have trainers doing this and they all
Speaker 1: they have neurologist to us. So they have people that
Speaker 1: are spotting because when you when you have all the
Speaker 1: video feed, you've got a lot more than maybe what
Speaker 1: you might see from your one perspective on the field.
Speaker 1: So in addition to you know, the field staff that's
Speaker 1: down there, you also have uh staff that's looking at
Speaker 1: the video for when somebody is just holding their head
Speaker 1: or they're getting up slow. Um, you know you can
Speaker 1: you can just see more on on TV than you
Speaker 1: will if you're kind of right there your perspective as
Speaker 1: many angles. So these spotters, I think that's an interesting
Speaker 1: approach that they're doing and I like it. I really do. Okay, great,
Speaker 1: can you tell me a little bit. You know, when
Speaker 1: I first read this idea of the fencing posture, I
Speaker 1: was a little confused, what exactly does that refer to?
Speaker 1: As far as just as far as they're they're lean,
Speaker 1: as far as when somebody's off balance and they're trying
Speaker 1: to try and to catch themselves. They have this this
Speaker 1: lean or this step. If if you watch the fencer,
Speaker 1: they have this, They've they've got this lunge. You know,
Speaker 1: everything is kind of a lunch. So basically, when you
Speaker 1: get hit of you're trying to get up and then
Speaker 1: you're kind of in this leaning or lunging position. You're
Speaker 1: trying to catch yourself, but instead of lunging forward, they're
Speaker 1: trying to get back up and there's this delayed to
Speaker 1: that licensed certified athletic trainer Thomas low talking about that
Speaker 1: lean when you get a concussion. When we come back
Speaker 1: on the Fantasy Freestyle, we're gonna hear more from Thomas
Speaker 1: Lowe in terms of how we might be able to
Speaker 1: identify concussions in the future and why it's okay for
Speaker 1: Grant to where his sun glasses at night. Come on
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Speaker 1: with a certified athletic trainer, Thomas Lowe here again on
Speaker 1: the fantasy Freestyles that to beat Cipher Dame Martinez Um. Thomas,
Speaker 1: you mentioned that there are some great um improvements in
Speaker 1: the technology. You know, you talk about some of the
Speaker 1: things that they can input into whether it these shoulder
Speaker 1: pads or helmets to kind of measure some of the
Speaker 1: strength of some of the hits. What are some of
Speaker 1: the other things you mentioned Ridel as an equipment maker,
Speaker 1: what are some of the other things that might be
Speaker 1: happening giving us more information UM into kind of the bigger, faster,
Speaker 1: stronger health players and what it means for safety in
Speaker 1: their bodies. Well, not so much in terms of the
Speaker 1: technology for the helmet, but one of the new things
Speaker 1: that we're hearing that that they had proved a blood
Speaker 1: test that could put potentially find these bio markers to
Speaker 1: indicate that somebody has a concussion. So that's gonna be
Speaker 1: interesting to see when that comes out. And we've got
Speaker 1: some really really good neurouzis here in my area. We
Speaker 1: actually have a jewel embails in this area. He's actually
Speaker 1: right here in my hometown and he and I work
Speaker 1: under the auspice of him and his team UM from
Speaker 1: north Shore Medical, And so it's gonna be interesting to
Speaker 1: see if this is adopted where they're actually using a
Speaker 1: blood test to actually tell somebody as a concussion. I
Speaker 1: don't know how far out that is, but it's being
Speaker 1: released now that this test was approved. Oh wow, And
Speaker 1: how would that how would that compare to say a
Speaker 1: baseline is it certain what exactly happens in your blood
Speaker 1: when you get a concussion, and how would they be
Speaker 1: able to kind of um get that a digital baseline
Speaker 1: for athletes. Well, it's it's not so much that you
Speaker 1: need a baseline, it's just a different bio marker that
Speaker 1: shows up with the enzymes. There's actually a biochemical change
Speaker 1: with concussion and that's when it gets uh, really dangerous
Speaker 1: for humans is when that happens. And so this blood
Speaker 1: test is able to pick those up, these these different
Speaker 1: indicators that that pop up, and so they use a
Speaker 1: ct uh to go through through and pick it up. Now,
Speaker 1: how far how accurate this is, It's going to be interesting.
Speaker 1: This is literally in the past couple of months I've
Speaker 1: seen read several studies on it. But you know how
Speaker 1: how well that is in picking up these proteins uh
Speaker 1: you h you know you see h in uh this
Speaker 1: g F, A P these different proteins that bring releases
Speaker 1: into the blood. And if they can measure that within
Speaker 1: a short time after the trauma, it may be able
Speaker 1: to help this diagnose Yes, you did a concussion. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's incredible. Um And and talk to me a little
Speaker 1: bit more about this, Thomas especially as it relates to
Speaker 1: something you mentioned before that you know, they're also trying
Speaker 1: to measure, in essence, a a measure of wear and
Speaker 1: tear on the brain based on not just concussions, bunny,
Speaker 1: and the accumulation of its right, So, could we see
Speaker 1: a universe in the future where you would have to
Speaker 1: take some of these blood tests even after some kind
Speaker 1: of traumatic brain event in order to be cleared, to
Speaker 1: see if these enzymes or elements dissipate from your blood
Speaker 1: to the extent enough to be clean clear. And could
Speaker 1: we see this in other sports as well? I wouldn't
Speaker 1: see why not if if it became standard practice, just
Speaker 1: as an X ray is that, yes, you have a fracture,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's not safe to resume until it's stabilized.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't see why not, but it's it's a little
Speaker 1: too early to know about its efficacy right now. It
Speaker 1: was approved, and so, you know, I think things are
Speaker 1: heading in the right direction, that people are asking the
Speaker 1: right questions and they're they're trying to find more objective
Speaker 1: means of judging a concussion, because right now so much
Speaker 1: is subjective. It's it's us interviewing the athlete it's us
Speaker 1: looking at some there are functional tests as far as
Speaker 1: balance and eye scan looking for the stigmas and et cetera,
Speaker 1: where the eyes really reveal a lot. But there's still
Speaker 1: a level of interpretation to it. It's there isn't a
Speaker 1: black and white like an X ray. You have a fracture.
Speaker 1: You don't have a fracture, So it'd be interesting to see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I would also imagine from your side of the fence, Thomas,
Speaker 1: this would also be great because it would remove some
Speaker 1: of these, you know, cheerleading decisions that you referenced before,
Speaker 1: like if you can want a blood test, that's a
Speaker 1: lot more objective than somewhat something of the subjects that
Speaker 1: you may see on the sidelines. Let's maybe taking some
Speaker 1: of the cheerleading decisions out of it, you know, and
Speaker 1: being as objective as possible if it's something like a
Speaker 1: blood test. Correct. Yeah, it would, and then it would
Speaker 1: also uh, free me up to release people that can play.
Speaker 1: I'm fine. You hear that. I'm fine. I really feel fine. Sorry,
Speaker 1: everything appeared as consistent with concussion. You're in the protocol now,
Speaker 1: but I'm fine. And unless there's a definitive way to
Speaker 1: say no, we're gonna now are on the stand of caution,
Speaker 1: and that's you're in the protocol and you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to go through you know, the minimum mandatory five six stages. Wow. Um,
Speaker 1: so that objective is now now you're clear, Now you
Speaker 1: can play boy. That would that would be nice when
Speaker 1: people say they are an actually are fine. Yeah, let
Speaker 1: me ask you one more question, Thomas. There was a
Speaker 1: case of a kind of frontline player who was dealing
Speaker 1: with the concussion heading into the Super Bowl, and that
Speaker 1: was Patriots tied at Rob Groundhausen. Yeah. What I thought
Speaker 1: was interesting is, you know, he was ultimately clear and played,
Speaker 1: but he missed, Um, he missed media day, okay, and
Speaker 1: that was on Tuesday, and that's and you know, and
Speaker 1: they said that he wasn't really ready yet for all
Speaker 1: the kind of loud snapping of the cameras and the
Speaker 1: bright lights and you know, you know, all that stuff
Speaker 1: that goes along with you know, kind of that media availability.
Speaker 1: But wouldn't you think that the Super Bowl is kind
Speaker 1: of a game even more than regular games in terms
Speaker 1: of the noise and the lights and the cameras and
Speaker 1: the and the sound system for the halftime artist, do
Speaker 1: you think it might be even harder to get cleared
Speaker 1: for such a big game with all those press opportunities
Speaker 1: and everything that goes around the Super Bowl for a
Speaker 1: guy like Groan. Yeah, I have mixed thoughts about this
Speaker 1: and being you know, here on the radio with you.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be hard for me without knowing all the facts.
Speaker 1: But I'll just try and speak eloquently and carefully. I missed.
Speaker 1: You've done well so far. If I am an athlete
Speaker 1: that's still sensitive to light and sound and talking in media,
Speaker 1: ums day and then five days later, well no, if
Speaker 1: I days later, um, that could that could happen. So
Speaker 1: it's far as But if it's gonna you know, if
Speaker 1: it's you can't clear up that quickly. Typically that's kind
Speaker 1: of within that first stage. Or you're still symptoms. So
Speaker 1: if you're still symptomatic, you're still symptomatic. You're not even
Speaker 1: in the protocol yet, so all your symptoms have to
Speaker 1: be gone. I mean, it's not and that's when the
Speaker 1: protocol starts. That's when the protocol starts. But it's not
Speaker 1: like because some people have migraines, some people are sensitive
Speaker 1: light and sounds. So people that tonight is we're talking
Speaker 1: about what's different for you. And so if there are
Speaker 1: certain things that kind of aggravate you anyway, you know,
Speaker 1: loud noise and so on, and then you're coming off
Speaker 1: a concussion, yeah, you may have a heightened sensitivity to
Speaker 1: that from that standpoint. So it may be protecting him
Speaker 1: and just to keep from retriggering him, to make sure
Speaker 1: we can continue to advance for the protocol. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're talking about millions here, so you're gonna want to
Speaker 1: protect your investment and make sure there is no one
Speaker 1: step forward, two steps back and trying not to do everything.
Speaker 1: I'm me, and I'll put kids in sunglasses in a classroom,
Speaker 1: I'll have them put I'll have them put your plugs
Speaker 1: into to deaden the sound, not so they can't hear instruction.
Speaker 1: But in colleges and in high schools, it's called what's
Speaker 1: called return to learn. You've gotta people return to learn
Speaker 1: and not have all these things trigger and set you
Speaker 1: off before you're even ready to return to play. So
Speaker 1: five days could you be sensitive and then five days
Speaker 1: later complete, Um, yeah, you can. Every case is different, right,
Speaker 1: Every case is different. So it's really hard for me
Speaker 1: to judge his medical care and him. I can I
Speaker 1: can see reasons why, but I can also see right
Speaker 1: reasons to ask was he ready? And and that's not
Speaker 1: really fair for me to do that openly, fair enough, Thomas,
Speaker 1: But you know, as a jetsman, any chance I get
Speaker 1: to nail the Patriots in the wall, I love, But
Speaker 1: let me get you out of here on this. And
Speaker 1: I think this will be a less controversial one. One
Speaker 1: of the things we see here in football and this
Speaker 1: time in the offseason, Thomas, interesting enough, is we're seeing
Speaker 1: more and more nflars retire decided to just walk away
Speaker 1: from the game. And we're talking about guys with you know,
Speaker 1: that are under thirty years of age and have had
Speaker 1: less than say, five to seven years experience. And you
Speaker 1: mentioned it before, this kind of awareness that is out there,
Speaker 1: and people are taking this decision in their own ends,
Speaker 1: you know, after they've already made millions, so that they
Speaker 1: can still preserve themselves from their life. Um and you, Thomas,
Speaker 1: I know, work at the high school level, at the
Speaker 1: college level. People have always wondered about the future of
Speaker 1: the NFL, you know, like, will it get to a
Speaker 1: point where people don't want to play football anymore? Will
Speaker 1: the NFL go away. So I want to ask you
Speaker 1: at the at the levels that you work at, you know,
Speaker 1: high school and in college, are you seeing any kind
Speaker 1: of fears from families or any dropping participation. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: even from that that level, we've had one of our
Speaker 1: our star stud um facts left college. He was drafted
Speaker 1: and then he was hit so hard, basically knocked in
Speaker 1: morrow and basically shut it down at that point Wiseman.
Speaker 1: So I've seen our guys come from high schoo where
Speaker 1: they're drafted and shut it down. We're seeing less enrollment.
Speaker 1: There's actually many schools sometimes they can't even feel the
Speaker 1: whole team with it. And and this, this is this
Speaker 1: is sad because the coaches are doing a great job.
Speaker 1: They're making it safer and safer and safer. I'm not
Speaker 1: seeing concussions in practice with at our level longer, not
Speaker 1: at varsity, maybe a little bit more at freshman because
Speaker 1: they're still learning how to hit, they're learning how to fall,
Speaker 1: they're learning that's right, they're learning content. But when we
Speaker 1: start to look at this, there's a lot of fear
Speaker 1: and a lot of attack on football. And you know,
Speaker 1: kids parenting to look at their kids wearing helmets biking
Speaker 1: little kids that are like around ten and young, you know, youth.
Speaker 1: There's more head injuries and concussion from them cycling without helmets,
Speaker 1: and and it's safer teams. So yes, it starts getting
Speaker 1: replaced with football and so on. But we need to
Speaker 1: look at cheerleaders and cheerleaders stunting and being tossed. But
Speaker 1: and we need to look at the cycling. So if
Speaker 1: we're really looking at protecting kids heads, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of areas that aren't getting attention. And it seems like
Speaker 1: football is getting beat up a lot for this hyper
Speaker 1: awareness you know that we're seeing. Yeah, no, I remember
Speaker 1: one time we spoken four times, you told me that
Speaker 1: cheerleading was actually the spot where you see the most
Speaker 1: head trauma. I was taken aback by that. Maybe football
Speaker 1: getting something of a bad rap. But as you say,
Speaker 1: there is proper instruction going on at the youth levels,
Speaker 1: equipment technology advances that are happening. Do you think do
Speaker 1: you think we get to a place where the game
Speaker 1: changes just by technique of tackling or by equipment that
Speaker 1: makes it safe, or do we um get to a
Speaker 1: place where people know their limits with these kind of technologies?
Speaker 1: And how many it's they've accumulated and continue to walk
Speaker 1: away before they get the magic number. Well, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think all that needs to happen, Yes, walk away before
Speaker 1: you hit the magic number, before you yourself destructive implode.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what we're trying to prevent. But it's
Speaker 1: also nice not they have to live in a bubble.
Speaker 1: I mean, most of the activities I do if if
Speaker 1: you don't have the helmet or there's some risk and
Speaker 1: it's boring to me. So I mean, as many people
Speaker 1: that are gonna want to live their life and not
Speaker 1: live in the bubble, but they're also not kind of
Speaker 1: want to become you know, paralyzed, pressed, suicidal, um and
Speaker 1: just become dysfunctional because of this. You know, there's an
Speaker 1: interesting piece I just saw thirty for thirty if you
Speaker 1: whom had caught that with Jim McMahon. He was kind
Speaker 1: of one of our local heroes here out of Chicago,
Speaker 1: and the long term effects of of you know, being
Speaker 1: hit in ahead and all the concussions he played through.
Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of people just don't
Speaker 1: want to have currented disability and that's and that's wise,
Speaker 1: and we need to get more information. So we can
Speaker 1: help them make informed choices so they can play but
Speaker 1: play safely. Yeah, we hope we can figure this out.
Speaker 1: It almost feels like when you talk about hits even
Speaker 1: and not concussions. It almost feels like how you can
Speaker 1: find the holding penalty on almost any play, especially with
Speaker 1: the offensive and defensive lines just running into each other.
Speaker 1: You're gonna accumulate that hit, those hits. But I hope
Speaker 1: that we continue to try and stay ahead of the
Speaker 1: curve and inform people as much as possible. And I
Speaker 1: appreciated Thomas uh learned license certified athletic trade or Thomas
Speaker 1: Lowe coming on the Fantasy Freestyle to help us in
Speaker 1: our listeners really understand. And Thomas, one baseball season gets
Speaker 1: started in a couple of months. What have you want
Speaker 1: to talk about all these hamstring polls and oblique injuries? Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, thank you, thanks for the honor to talk
Speaker 1: with you. All right, Absolutely sounds good. Thanks again, Thomas
Speaker 1: uh here on the Fantasy Freestyle. So there you have it.
Speaker 1: My conversation with license certified athletic trainer Thomas Lowe, friend
Speaker 1: of the Fantasy Freestyle, Dilley. Dilley, he has been part
Speaker 1: of the status overbeat Cipher for a minute. Um, I
Speaker 1: want to also, you know, change gears. Although Thomas Lowe
Speaker 1: brings us the great insight at the end of this
Speaker 1: episode of Fantasy Freestyle, I also got to give you,
Speaker 1: you know, the fun and functional sports radio. So I
Speaker 1: want to talk about a couple of stories in the NBA.
Speaker 1: The defending champion Golden State Warriors. Uh, we're in Washington
Speaker 1: to play the Wizards this week, and so it came
Speaker 1: back up that they were, you know, issuing their ceremonial
Speaker 1: trip to the White House. They were invited, uninvited, you know.
Speaker 1: Steph Curry had some things to say instead, check this
Speaker 1: out though, they were going to an African American museum
Speaker 1: with school kids from see Pleasant, Maryland in the area,
Speaker 1: and that's also Kevin Durant's neighborhood, his area high school.
Speaker 1: Clay Thompson said, you know, with not going to the
Speaker 1: White House though it is a quote unquote great honor,
Speaker 1: but they were, you know, uncomfortable going. They said, they
Speaker 1: didn't want to politicize it. But instead they're just gonna
Speaker 1: hang out with some kids to go to the museum,
Speaker 1: hopefully teach some things they longed along the way life
Speaker 1: lessons and hopefully give them some great memories. They actually,
Speaker 1: in fact thought about meeting with the Democrats, but then
Speaker 1: decided that would infect be politicizing things. So who knows.
Speaker 1: But you know, um, everybody trying to make their stand
Speaker 1: get their voice heard, regardless of what corner they are,
Speaker 1: you know, fighting into or backing into. But check this out.
Speaker 1: Let's keep it in political basketball. Okay, So we got
Speaker 1: the Warriors are shooing the current administration. The head of
Speaker 1: the last administration may have a future with the San
Speaker 1: Antonio Spurs. Check this out. Um. At a conference, the
Speaker 1: Sports Conference at M I T, Barack Obama said he
Speaker 1: would love to take every agent meeting with the Spurs.
Speaker 1: He says, and I quote, there's smart, they're well run,
Speaker 1: They're focused on team. He said, Um, they treat everybody
Speaker 1: in the organization with respect, the kind of organization that
Speaker 1: I want to be a part of. So I would
Speaker 1: say over the last fifteen years in basketball, San Antonio
Speaker 1: would be a great example at that and I'd love
Speaker 1: to take a meeting. But check this out. On the
Speaker 1: flip side, Popovich not necessarily, um going for it, not
Speaker 1: necessarily right in says he still needs to vet them,
Speaker 1: you know, still needs to vet Brock that it's flattering,
Speaker 1: you know, but he has to do a background check,
Speaker 1: he says. Um, but this wasn't the first time. Actually, Uh,
Speaker 1: former president forty four UM basically said nice things about
Speaker 1: the Spurs when Spurs won the championship after the fourteen
Speaker 1: fifteen season. I believe when they went um, you know,
Speaker 1: he actually said that the Spurs represented the America as
Speaker 1: a team first country and all there and that culture
Speaker 1: and value. So you know, they've had a long standing relationship.
Speaker 1: But UM, I still don't think that's feasible. One thing
Speaker 1: that might be more feasible as we keep it rocking
Speaker 1: here on the Fantasy Freestyle on the Fantasy Sports Network.
Speaker 1: Last thing I'm gonna talk about tonight is, uh, check
Speaker 1: this out in Philly, they going hard maybe for Lebron.
Speaker 1: Uh the the Sixers and Cabs played each other this week.
Speaker 1: And also like they have young talent, they have money
Speaker 1: to spend and they're like in straight recruitment. MO. Check
Speaker 1: this out. A um Power home remodeling, which is based
Speaker 1: in Philly, paid for three billboards and you know there
Speaker 1: is that movie out there right now. Three billboards, right
Speaker 1: but these three billboards are used to basically recruit Lebron
Speaker 1: okay and hashtag complete the process. One is just says
Speaker 1: Philly wants Lebron, one says like I said, complete the process,
Speaker 1: and the other has just like the numbers of a
Speaker 1: starting lineup with number twenty three in there with a
Speaker 1: crown on it along with Ben Simmons twenty five, stars
Speaker 1: is nine and be twenty one. And this one has
Speaker 1: Covington's at thirty three, so like no guards in this
Speaker 1: lineup and also no uh no faults the you know,
Speaker 1: number one overall pick of this year as he tries
Speaker 1: to make a jump shot look look great again? What
Speaker 1: shall we say? But um, you know, the CEO of
Speaker 1: this organization was like, we're passionate about Philadelphia. We want
Speaker 1: the best athletes to play here. We're have an amazing city,
Speaker 1: you know, So they're in full on recroup BOARDE. I
Speaker 1: think that was creative. I think that was cool and
Speaker 1: you never know, that could be an interesting fit in
Speaker 1: a way to try extended by passing the baton, you know,
Speaker 1: to the process and EmpId and Simmons. That could be interesting.
Speaker 1: We'll see what Lebron does this summer. That's about my time.
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