WEBVTT - NL West Pitching Preview & Concussion discussion w Trainer Thomas Loew

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome to another edition of the Fantasy Freestyle right

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<v Speaker 1>Cipher Um had a big show on Tuesday Live and

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<v Speaker 1>League Central. We're gonna start off the National League West

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<v Speaker 1>as a new division preview to get you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>the fantasy baseball season. Drafts are starting to get scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>as you're getting ready for fantasy baseball, so we'll getna

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<v Speaker 1>kick it off with the n L West preview. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give you a little bit of look into I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're gonna go into the arms of the NL

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<v Speaker 1>West right now, We're gonna start that off. Then we

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<v Speaker 1>go to the NFL. Listen to Combine is out there.

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<v Speaker 1>We preview the quarterbacks that I wanted to see at

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<v Speaker 1>the at the Combine. Want to see Lamar Jackson proves himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to see if Kyle Loletta can keep his hot

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<v Speaker 1>street going in terms of turning heads in this process. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the Combine, you know gonna be kicking off this week.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you saw when Nelson the guard

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<v Speaker 1>out of Noted Dame putting up the bench press earlier

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<v Speaker 1>this week. He could be an option for some of

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<v Speaker 1>these top five teams shooting up the draft ward. I

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<v Speaker 1>know they don't want to usually draft a guard that early.

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<v Speaker 1>But the focus of our football conversation on this episode

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<v Speaker 1>of The Fantasy Freestyle is actually going to be once

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<v Speaker 1>again in about players safety and about head injuries. We

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<v Speaker 1>have as a special guest on the show a friend

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<v Speaker 1>of the Cipher Dilly Dilly. It is licensed certified trainer

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<v Speaker 1>UM Thomas Lowe. He is going to join us a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit later on in the show, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be talking about when we get into the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>But um. We also got a pull question up as always,

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<v Speaker 1>STA's overbeat cipher listen. There was a lot of conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into it. Also a little bit about them

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<v Speaker 1>redefining a catch. We've been talking about this a lot

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<v Speaker 1>in this offseason, the going to the ground part, that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. There's a lot of attention on that.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the things I find interesting is they

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about changes to the past interference role as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think this could be very very interesting. They're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about changing past interference dp I defensive fast interference

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<v Speaker 1>from a spot foul to a fifteen yard penalty. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And there are definitely sometimes in the game where I

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<v Speaker 1>love thrown ball deep downfield because what they say is

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<v Speaker 1>two out of the three things that can happen are good.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can get to catch or you can

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<v Speaker 1>get the penalty. And that works just the same for

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<v Speaker 1>the offense and may not work for your fantasy team.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they're taking that away and making it a

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen yard penalty, it could have an interesting impact on

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<v Speaker 1>some offenses. But I actually do think it's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>They do the same thing in college, and so that,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact is our pole question in this episode. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think past interference down the field should be a

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<v Speaker 1>spot foul or a fifteen yard penalty? Holl Edge boy

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<v Speaker 1>at spitting speeds. Let me know, we got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people participating right now. Um So, but what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do is we're gonna switch it up because listen,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a down part of the football season, the

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<v Speaker 1>new league year. So we're gonna get it. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>push football to the back of this both sand Bow

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson episode, both Sanders. I had both Bernie Sanders on

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<v Speaker 1>my mind for some reason, but the Bow Jackson episode.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna start with baseball. Okay, listen, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>pitches and catches of reported their spring training games going on.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest free agents still out there. We've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this like lukewarm Stove, and now you know, spring

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<v Speaker 1>training is going and still, in my opinion, the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>name out there, Jake Arrietta still unsigned. Um boris client.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the Nats, the Phillies, the Brewers, all potentially

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<v Speaker 1>still in on Jake Arietta. Question for me is will

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<v Speaker 1>he eventually cave and take like a shorter deal. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been saying for years that there's no

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<v Speaker 1>reason that Pictures should be able to get a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>six seven year deal the way how fragile they are.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the that's the name to watch in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're gonna do is. We're gonna go into the NLS.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you we're gonna talk arms. We're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>arms of the n L wes. Excuse me, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk arms of the n O West and listen. Last year,

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<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers will obviously the class of this division. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's some interesting bounce back potential and some

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<v Speaker 1>interesting surprise potential in the arms here um in the NLS.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to start though with the Dodgers, of

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<v Speaker 1>course you have cart saw check. But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to fantasy, you're either taking him in

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<v Speaker 1>the first round or you're not gonna have him right

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<v Speaker 1>And are you gonna be that person that drafts him?

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<v Speaker 1>What five WI we're all six overall? I I personally

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't do it. I personally would rather these like one

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<v Speaker 1>A two tier starters. If I'm gonna go starters at

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<v Speaker 1>all heavy. But I'm not gonna have Kershaw on many

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<v Speaker 1>of my teams. But I understand, go ahead, go get him.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing, like last year, last year, my

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<v Speaker 1>problem with the Dodgers rotation is last year they were

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<v Speaker 1>in essence doing a six man rotation. I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this last year. You know, what they did, to

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<v Speaker 1>be quite honest, was artfully managed the d L, and

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<v Speaker 1>they had guys that were often on the d L

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<v Speaker 1>like whoa, I'm talking Rich Hill, I'm talking you know hin,

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<v Speaker 1>John ryou Rias eventually went down and they're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>that again, okay with Alex Wood. Alex Wood twenty five starts,

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Hill starts, tent starts, h John Yo starts. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna have Bueller and Verdugo probably even maybe make

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<v Speaker 1>some starts this year. And I think they're gonna continue

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<v Speaker 1>to try and do this. No wonder they needed you Darvish,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to try and eat innings. But they do

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<v Speaker 1>not have him coming back this year. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that I liked him, because I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be defendable year. They're good, and they're shield stats,

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<v Speaker 1>their strikeouts are there, you know what I'm saying. But

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are guys with a hundred thirty innings pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>things of that nature. You know, their low e r A.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know even how Alex would was sick in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the in his hundred fifty two innings pitch.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just not I'm just not trusting those Dodgers

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<v Speaker 1>starters after Clayton Kershaw. And to be a quite honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be Dave downfall in the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs if they don't augment that by you know, trading

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<v Speaker 1>from their depth, whether it be at outfield or elsewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in their offense. What I'm really interested in is uh,

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<v Speaker 1>out there in the bay, out there in the bay

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<v Speaker 1>with the Giants. I am very very intrigued. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell you right now. You know, like hot take, get

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<v Speaker 1>ready to sweat some steam here in the Fantasy Freestyle

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<v Speaker 1>which voice speeds. Madison bum Gardner is my SI young

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<v Speaker 1>pick for the National League. Alright. I think he's coming

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<v Speaker 1>back off a down year. You know, you people always

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<v Speaker 1>forget about guys. You always just think it's you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's such short term memory, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>recentcy bias, and people are like, oh sures or oh

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. You know. Um, I think that Madison

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<v Speaker 1>bump Gardner and Noah Synderguard are I too, dark horse

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<v Speaker 1>candidates right there for cy Young. Those are guys I'm

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<v Speaker 1>putting my shekels on. Okay, I think he's coming up

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<v Speaker 1>bounced back years, so I'm thinking he's rested. But more importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>the I love Masison Bumbgarder. He's an example of one

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<v Speaker 1>of these Tier two high two starters one A starters

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<v Speaker 1>that I would love to get a little bit later on,

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<v Speaker 1>except of the first round of Clayton Kershaw. But I

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<v Speaker 1>actually think the two most important pictures in this division

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<v Speaker 1>are Johnny Kuato and Jeffson margin If they are healthy

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<v Speaker 1>and solid like they have been with their strikeout rates

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<v Speaker 1>in that ballpark as twos and threes, along with the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive enhancements that this lineup has made, I think these

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<v Speaker 1>guys get are the Giants could be prying for a

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<v Speaker 1>bounce back season. In fact, I think they can milk

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<v Speaker 1>out whatever they can out of Longoria, out of McCutcheon,

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<v Speaker 1>out of Quato, you know, out of Posey again this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the giants moving forward. I think these two

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<v Speaker 1>are really two of the most important pictures in this division.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do like um I'm I would be willing

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<v Speaker 1>to take a shot with one or both of them

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<v Speaker 1>above their a DP in Arizona. I personally have never

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<v Speaker 1>been a fan of Zak Grinky. I have never been

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of Zack Grinky. Um, so he won't be

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<v Speaker 1>on any of my teams. But um, I am on

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<v Speaker 1>Robbie Ray. I was on Robbie Ray last year. I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about him all last year's shot called by

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<v Speaker 1>the boy speech to fit and statistician. I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a guy with a twelve point one strikeout per nine, Okay, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about two fifty strikeout potential. Okay, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about he had eleven point three strikeout for nine last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is consistent from a left handed pitcher. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is, everybody's gonna be on him this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I was early with him last year. He's the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of guy you want to find the next this year's

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<v Speaker 1>version of this year, and I think it might be

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<v Speaker 1>Danny Salazar, But that's or James Paxton. But that's besides

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<v Speaker 1>the point. Okay. So I love Ray, but here's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing I would I would go to some of these

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<v Speaker 1>other guys. I like type one Walker. If he's healthy

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<v Speaker 1>off the foot, that's another he's only twenty five years old.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another power arm right there. And it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>all these guys in Arizona between Grinky Ray Taiwan Walker,

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<v Speaker 1>like Zach Godly was stable last year, Patrick Corban, I

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<v Speaker 1>think these guys, these are streaming candidates. Godly and and

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<v Speaker 1>and Corby are high end streaming candidates to me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Taiwan Walker is an interesting little risk reward play late

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft in my opinion. Okay, Um, but these

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<v Speaker 1>guys are power arms, and I like that out of Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think you know you're gonna, unfortunately, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pref to overpay for Robbie Ray this year. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know Zach Granky, he makes me anxious, so I

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<v Speaker 1>can't mess with him. But my, my, my, my surprise,

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<v Speaker 1>to be quite honest, of this division is in San Diego.

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<v Speaker 1>In San Diego, and this is this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>where I want you people to listen. Okay, This is

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<v Speaker 1>where stats over beat cipher getting ready for your draft.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where I really I think it's really important. Okay, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the San Diego Padres pitching staff is going to surprise

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<v Speaker 1>some people. Clayton Richard was incredibly solid for the first

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<v Speaker 1>three and a half months last season, Okay. And he

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<v Speaker 1>finished with a babbit against him a three fifty one.

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<v Speaker 1>That is an outlier. Okay. He that that is going

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<v Speaker 1>to regress down to the mean and he's gonna, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>over be better for it. And he was solid last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Clayton Richard is very interesting. Uh. Lament Dilson

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<v Speaker 1>Lament also very very interesting. I'm I'm talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>guy with a nearly eleven strikeout per nine innings, a

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<v Speaker 1>young kid that's still learning to develop, had a four

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<v Speaker 1>point two e r A okay, in only a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen innings. He's the cannon kind of candidate that can

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<v Speaker 1>get to one thirty five this year keep up his

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<v Speaker 1>power arms, uh, you know, trending and like, could he

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<v Speaker 1>be under four this year in that ballpark? I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible. Um, in a division where um, the Diamondbacks

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<v Speaker 1>have a worse offense, uh than they did last year,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, I think it's possible. Um and

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<v Speaker 1>Perdomo couldn't prose slightly. Also, and here's the thing. Watch

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<v Speaker 1>Tyson Ross also dark Horse, like diamond in the rough,

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<v Speaker 1>true diamond in the rough. Okay, he was almost he

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<v Speaker 1>was basically five hundred when he was when he was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid in two thousand fourteen, not even kid in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand fifteen. A few years ago with the Padres,

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<v Speaker 1>he was an All Star one year. Okay, he averaged

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<v Speaker 1>a three e r A. He averaged like two d

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<v Speaker 1>and two strikeouts a year across like two two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half years with the Padres, and like when he

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<v Speaker 1>was on point. Maybe a return for him. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that is very, very interesting, my surprise team. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you San Diego Padres. I like Richard, I like Lament,

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<v Speaker 1>I like the potential of Tyson Ross. Yo, get some

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<v Speaker 1>bargain basement Padres. Because remember about this lineup also, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's this nothing line up the ballpark that they

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<v Speaker 1>are in, Okay, that's always something to consider people when

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<v Speaker 1>they are pitching half their games at home. Like part

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<v Speaker 1>of the reason you don't like the next team is

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<v Speaker 1>the Colorado Rockies. Where I think it is still the

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<v Speaker 1>worst pitching rotation in the n L West. You have

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<v Speaker 1>the you have John Gray, okay, power, fastball, straight off,

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<v Speaker 1>love it, but he's starting to become injury prone in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, so I don't. I don't trust him. See,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is with me. If I'm gonna invest in

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<v Speaker 1>drafting a starter, and that's and that's to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>why and on a lot of my teams, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't draft as many starters. I'm heavy on offense,

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<v Speaker 1>I truly am. I gotta tell you, I'm heavy on

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<v Speaker 1>offense when it comes to my drafts and my auctions

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. Okay, my strategy is never really to win

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<v Speaker 1>through the starting pitching because it's so flighty. It's so flighty.

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<v Speaker 1>These pictures are so injury prone. They are not making

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty starts a year you need from your horses

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<v Speaker 1>in order to win your leagues and win that cash.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not happening. You know, you draft a third

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<v Speaker 1>round outfielder or third basement that guy is going to

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<v Speaker 1>play a hundred fifty games to you. You draft a

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<v Speaker 1>third round starting pitcher and have him be your sp

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<v Speaker 1>two and then he and then he goes down with

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<v Speaker 1>a with a pinch nerve in his elbow in May,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is much more likely, in my opinion, to

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<v Speaker 1>happen to the starting pitching position than any other position

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<v Speaker 1>in fantasy baseball. So I I stay away from it,

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<v Speaker 1>to be quite honest. Okay, but um, if I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to invest in a starting pitching I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>invest in the starting pitch ye that plays half of

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<v Speaker 1>his games at coors Field. Okay, So John Great can

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<v Speaker 1>have his power for US ball, But the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's gonna really have how much

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<v Speaker 1>more than a ten innings is he gonna be? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>The same way I said it about I think Dilson Lament,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and those games instead of in San Diego

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<v Speaker 1>would be in course, So I'm not sure about that.

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<v Speaker 1>And the same thing about you know Tyler chat with

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Anderson bettis these are guys with all four point

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<v Speaker 1>five year r A and remember that ballbark, So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like them. When it comes to the arms, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling me my diamonds and the rough. I love these padres,

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<v Speaker 1>Tyson Ross, Dilson Lament. I like the arms in in

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco as well in the Bay to two and three.

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<v Speaker 1>I like some margin maybe in Quato this year, if quato,

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<v Speaker 1>if quato. If you're telling me Johnny Quato makes twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight starts this year, and Madison Bumgardner does as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and some margin does as well. I'll show you a

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<v Speaker 1>Giant's team that is in contention in August with the

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<v Speaker 1>wherewithal to make a move. Okay, So those are also

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<v Speaker 1>diamonds in the fu gazes for me and the arms

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<v Speaker 1>up telling you. I'm also I told you how Zac

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<v Speaker 1>Granky makes me anxious. The other part about this is

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<v Speaker 1>he's going into his age thirty four season. Okay. He

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<v Speaker 1>has thrown over a hundred and seventy innings in his

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<v Speaker 1>last and six of his last seven years. Okay, two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and two winnings pitch last year. Okay, that is

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<v Speaker 1>a ballpark where the ball flies out. He's getting older.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, he's in the n L West Fantasy. Fool

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<v Speaker 1>Gazzy forgot about him. He makes me a little too anxious.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, don the jeweler knows what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are some diamonds and fool gazes. What I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do is I'm gonna give you my UM, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give you my predictions for the n L West. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>when we do it, you know, next week out there

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<v Speaker 1>and live in Studio thirty four, I will say this,

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<v Speaker 1>I do like the Dodgers. I do think the Padres

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<v Speaker 1>are in the back, but you know, going in the

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<v Speaker 1>right direction. And I I like the Giants. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>say I do like the Giants. Will see how much

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<v Speaker 1>maybe next week when we holler at it, when we

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<v Speaker 1>continue our n L West preview. What I do want

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<v Speaker 1>Dane Martine spsas fitting statistician, stables, vocal minority. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is here on the Fantasy Sports that we're

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<v Speaker 1>representing the hashtags statute over beat, cipher. I told you

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<v Speaker 1>we got the past interference call question up on the

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<v Speaker 1>pole at spitting speed. You can holler at your boy.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get into some quick news notes around

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL at this time of year. What you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hear about is a lot of veterans getting cut it

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<v Speaker 1>towards the end of the year. Teams are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>clear cap space, and we're seeing a lot of that

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<v Speaker 1>in this week. Okay, the Panthers of cut running back

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Stewart, he's there all time leading rusher. Okay, Jets

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<v Speaker 1>running back Matt Forte announced his retirement. The Colts announced

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<v Speaker 1>they will not resign Frank Gore. This is what we

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<v Speaker 1>were seeing this the stages of the NFL season. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have then after this is you know, the circle

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<v Speaker 1>of life in the NFL. Though, because we have the

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<v Speaker 1>combine where some of these young kids are gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>running around in their underwear lifting weights and stuff like that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it continues, instead of Frank Gore, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be here in the name, you know, Darius Geiss instead.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, instead of Matt Forte, They're gonna be here

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<v Speaker 1>in the name Nick Chubb instead. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be hearing these kinds of names, se Quon Barkley,

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<v Speaker 1>Ronald Jones, Sony Michelle, Elijah Penny. Um, I think these

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<v Speaker 1>are shot Penny. Excuse me, these guys are gonna be hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's gonna be very interesting. Alright, so the combine.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the things that also happened is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like the league meetings. You know, they're the commit

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<v Speaker 1>competition committee meets. We're talking about what is the catch

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<v Speaker 1>the past interference. But what it's also happened checking this out,

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<v Speaker 1>we have more comments at a Chief Medical officers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and and and it's interesting because I talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>the concussion issue and how that the number went up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually said on a previous episode of Fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>Freestyle that I think that's a good thing. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, because then they were identifying it more.

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<v Speaker 1>We're taking people out when they have this, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>good for players safety, you know what I'm saying. But

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like Dr Allan Still, who is the Chief

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<v Speaker 1>Medical Medical Officer of the NFL, disagrees. He says the

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<v Speaker 1>increase in concussions up to two a quote unquote call

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<v Speaker 1>to action. Does not in fact believe that what I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying is like that. It's good because you're identifying it,

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<v Speaker 1>you're raising awareness. He says, quote, it's not okay to

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<v Speaker 1>simply stand behind that and say, well, the numbers are

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<v Speaker 1>going up because we're doing a better job. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, it's really a call to action to see

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<v Speaker 1>what we can do to drive it down. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's exactly the bad wrong mentality. We're not looking

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<v Speaker 1>to drive it down artificially per se. Of course we

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<v Speaker 1>all were proper technique and things like that, But like

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<v Speaker 1>I think, at this part of the cycle of our

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<v Speaker 1>education of this, it's important that, for example, they are

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<v Speaker 1>now saying that of conclussions involved addressing it with a

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<v Speaker 1>medical official, and that that is the highest efforts. So

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<v Speaker 1>that is a good thing. But to me and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the highest ever we're addressed by a medical official. Shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>it be like a hundred? That's absolutely crazy? And and

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<v Speaker 1>also still nine of the NFL um had a concussion

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<v Speaker 1>this year. Okay, So I don't know why you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to necessarily drive it down. I think we have to

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<v Speaker 1>accept that this is a risk in this game on

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<v Speaker 1>some level and get better with technique, get better with equipment,

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<v Speaker 1>get better with science and data. But this idea for

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<v Speaker 1>me of thinking you need to quote unquote drive it

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<v Speaker 1>down sounds a little bit artificial to me. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>saye for helmets, I think educational warning signs, rule changes,

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, And I think we should be glass half

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<v Speaker 1>half half full about this. And I was even more

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<v Speaker 1>encouraged when I talked to my my boy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>friend to the cipher Dilly dilly hashtag status over beat

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<v Speaker 1>hashtag dilly dilly uh license certified athletic trainer, Thomas Lowe.

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I had a chance to catch up with him, you

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<v Speaker 1>remember him, so, um, let me play you some of

0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:15.120
<v Speaker 1>that conversation, because I think it's really insightful. He's he's

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:17.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of with me, and I like having a a

0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:20.159
<v Speaker 1>medical opinion that agrees with me when I go up

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:22.920
<v Speaker 1>against the league because they called me ignorant last time

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:26.680
<v Speaker 1>when I talked about Cam Newton. Hashtag all quarterbacks matter,

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:31.880
<v Speaker 1>hashtag all brains matter. But UM, check out my conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with Thomas Lowe. You know what it is? Alright, everybody,

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:37.200
<v Speaker 1>So here in the Fantasy Freestyle, we are back. And

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you listen to the Fantasy Freestyle, you

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:41.320
<v Speaker 1>listen to the show, you know we've had our next

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:45.960
<v Speaker 1>guest on before. This is license certified athletic trainer Thomas Lowe.

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.440
<v Speaker 1>He's been with us before, talking a lot about players safety,

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 1>talking a lot about from everything from the concussion protocol

0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 1>to uh adam meastion your urine for hydration. And we

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 1>welcome Thomas Lowe back on the show. How are you

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 1>doing Thomas? All right, Dane, how are you? We're doing good.

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:05.359
<v Speaker 1>We're doing good. Thanks again for making the time and listen.

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<v Speaker 1>You know we've talked to you now about I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know three or four times, maybe really focused around players

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 1>safety and around head trauma and UM I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of bring you on after the season and just

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<v Speaker 1>ask you, you know, do you think do you think

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<v Speaker 1>UM progress has been made and at least kind of

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 1>shining a light on how important uh you know, head

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 1>trauma and player safety is generally, like, are you hearing

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<v Speaker 1>about it more in your field? The dangers of CPE,

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the dangers of playing football, because where where is this at?

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<v Speaker 1>In your opinion? Yes, great gains are being made about

0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:46.479
<v Speaker 1>keeping players safe, learning more about how to better diagnose him,

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 1>learning better how to manage them. Um, a lot of

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:53.680
<v Speaker 1>options coming up to so I'm not certain what you

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>want to discuss. If you may read lots some of

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:58.360
<v Speaker 1>the things that been Uh yeah, sure that was about

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<v Speaker 1>the things you've seen. We're we're we're hearing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of evidence with the CTE on that it is about hits,

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 1>not just concussions. It's hits. And but the thing is,

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 1>we don't know what the hit count is. But the

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 1>nice thing is right out and some other companies actually

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 1>have these accelerometers in the helmet. We actually have them

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:22.680
<v Speaker 1>now too, and they could actually easily turn that on

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 1>where right now we have it set where based on

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:28.880
<v Speaker 1>a certain g force impacted alerts us and says, hey,

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 1>we need to have a conversation with that kid. I

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 1>think I told you about these last time we talked,

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 1>but they could easily turn us into just a hit count.

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 1>We could lower the sensitivity or just the sensitivity. Once

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<v Speaker 1>we find out what is that impact, what is what

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<v Speaker 1>constitutes a hit? You know? That's uh that inns of

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<v Speaker 1>like pounds of pressure of force in each hit. Well,

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 1>that's what's gonna be discussed because there's some variation with

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 1>a rotary hit. And you also don't have to get

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 1>hit in your your had to get a concussion to

0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 1>get hit in your body. But but the CT stuff

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>is showing you what hits to the head is. They're

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 1>showing there some relationship or correlation there. But like what

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 1>constitutes a hit, we don't know. That's not quite as

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 1>black and white as a picture. With the pitch count

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:20.120
<v Speaker 1>that he throws so many with the hit that's still

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, being determined. So that's interesting news to kind

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 1>of keep an eye. You know. The thing is if

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 1>we keep an eye on that, and we get these

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 1>little guys high schoolers, college and helmet, we can we

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.440
<v Speaker 1>can keep track of that and then eventually if we

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 1>find out what that hit is, then they'll kind of

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>be armed with some running history of of how much

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:48.119
<v Speaker 1>they've suffered you know, in their time. Another thing that

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 1>we're saying almost uh, Thomas, let me ask you, would

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 1>you be almost able to like pinpoint then when the

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 1>player is at greatest risk? Would this be a measure

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>of kind of like wear and tear? I know you

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:01.400
<v Speaker 1>may be analogy to like any pitched or a pitch

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 1>count on an arm with Are you saying then that

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 1>they're working to establish kind of a certain oh, I

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:11.399
<v Speaker 1>don't know, maybe threshold where after that amount of trauma

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:13.880
<v Speaker 1>or amount of hits to the head, you're an even

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>greater risk of brain trauma. Those are the questions that

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 1>are being asked right now. So there seems to be

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>evidence that it's hits. Not necessarily that you've had a

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 1>diagnosable concussion, but it's hits, it's repeated trauma to the head.

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>So right now we have more questions and answers in

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>terms of that goes. So, you know, we just need

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>to gather more more data. We're learning. We're learning at

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>an incredibly fast pace because guess what, everybody's paying attention now, right,

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>and so I guess that's step one. Right. The awareness

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>is out there, it has been so front and center,

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 1>and that brings me to one of the questions I

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>wanted to ask you, Thomas, Um, you know, the NFL

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 1>actually reported that there was increase in concussions this year

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL up to two one that we're actually diagnosed,

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and they're saying that there was forty five that were

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>actually diagnosed in practice. Now some people are saying that this,

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's kind of a warning that they still

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 1>need to get it under control, whether it be with

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>equipment or whether it be with training on the right

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 1>way to tackle. I've actually on air, Thomas argued the

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>opposite that identifying this number may actually be a good thing,

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>because that means they are getting you know, diagnosed, identified,

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>and the players are then sitting out the way they

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>should to be able to recover. Specifically, they've noticed that

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>forty five have happened in practice, and to me, that's

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>something that you didn't really hear about much, players getting

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>concussions in practice and then you know, having to sit out.

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>So maybe it's actually a good thing. What's your take

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>on that this increase in diagnosed concussions not just the prose.

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>It's not just surprose in the NFL, it's it's colleges,

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 1>it's high schools. It's it's all levels and it just

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>has to do with awareness. And I don't think there's

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>any more concussions. They're being reported. People now don't know

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>what a concussion is. Players now know what a concussion is.

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Coaches no better what a concussion is. There's less denial,

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>there's less covering up, there's less masking, there's less playing

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>through the pain. There's everybody's where the ramifications now, So

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>there's just more being reported. I don't really think there's

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 1>more of them. There's just more awareness and sensitivity to

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>him now I see. So one of the biggest things,

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, there are a couple of you know, separate

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>occurrences this season, Thomas, where some players were you know,

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>um checked out and ultimately cleared to be back on

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 1>a couple of specific cases around Tom Savage with Uston

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe Cam Newton in the playoffs. And one of the

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 1>things the NFL didn't response Thomas is to add the

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 1>number of what they call u n c s, which

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>are unaffiliated neurology uh neurology consultants. These are not team doctors,

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be independently objective people that have the ability

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>to pull players out of the game. Um, do you

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>think this is a step in the right direction. Yes,

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I do. It's actually part of their concussion you know,

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 1>checklist as far as their protocol. That's one thing that's

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>that's unique, UM at that level compared to mine, is

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>that this independent neurologist and what it is that prevents

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>a conflict of interest because anybody that's really with their

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 1>team and as you get a meshed in with the

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>success of your team and the rise and fall, it's

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 1>it's really easy for us and we have to constantly

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>fight the medical people. We have to constantly fight making

0:31:57.080 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 1>cheerleading decisions. And some of the most sleepless nights I

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>can recall in my career would be wasn't making a

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>cheerleading decision, wasn't making a good medical decision? And then

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>that was probably my greatest point of wisdom in my career,

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>is learning how to monitor myself when I wasn't to

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>not make a cheerleading decision because it's a conflict of interest.

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 1>So having independent neurologist prevents that conflict of interesting. It

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 1>makes it a pure medical decision without without you know,

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 1>being conflicted with being a cheerleader for your team. Sore.

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>But what about this, Thomas. I mean, we talk about

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>how they're unaffiliated, and I completely get that, how the

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>team doctor maybe vested in certain players. You know, I

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>was railing about this, Like, let's say a complete stud

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 1>like a Tom Brady or Drew Brees, you know, gotten

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 1>banged up in a game, there'd be a lot of

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 1>pressure to put them back out there. And I completely

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>understand that. But these unaffiliated consultants, they aren't they also

0:32:57.520 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 1>on some level with a conflict of interest given the

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>fact they are paid by the NFL, you know, So

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>don't they have some level of that conflict as well?

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Or do you think it's possible to truly be unaffiliated.

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>You talk about cheerleading decisions, what about kind of financial decisions.

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Don't you kind of want to be in rotation of

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the doctors that are in good graces with the league?

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't. That's a that's a tough question. Uh, It's

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>it's tough in terms of somebody's financial motivation. But I

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know what they're what they're getting paid. I don't

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 1>really I can't really comment on what would what would

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 1>drive them? I would my thinking is that they're in

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 1>integrity and they're making salid you know, decisions for their patient,

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>not with the conflict of interest to be there. So,

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:51.959
<v Speaker 1>because the NFL really is trying to do stuff right,

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 1>everybody's trying to do stuff right, and so by doing

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 1>this is they don't want to get in trouble any further.

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>They want to make sure that are doing doing the

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 1>right thing. And one of the ways this is their protocol.

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Nobody made them insert you know, a third party to

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 1>come in and do that. So that's a way for

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 1>them to protect themselves. Sure, so let's not talk about

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 1>their intent or their interests. I want to ask just

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>about the feasibility. There's also am an enhancement that they

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 1>made to this procedure, Thomas. Around the playoffs, they even

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 1>have a um U n SEE, an unaffiliated neurology consultant

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 1>centrally located in New York watching the games kind of

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 1>like they do for instant replay now. And that person

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 1>also has the ability to kind of buzz and yank

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:44.320
<v Speaker 1>someone and they're saying that they're they're able to notice

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 1>that some of these features from the television feed um

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, specifically, they're talking about stumbling when trying to

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 1>get up and what they call the fencing posture, and

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 1>they don't talk more about the fencing posture and if

0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 1>that's even feasible to see that on VEGIL. Yeah, these

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 1>are spotters. They have trainers doing this and they all

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 1>they have neurologist to us. So they have people that

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 1>are spotting because when you when you have all the

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:11.840
<v Speaker 1>video feed, you've got a lot more than maybe what

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>you might see from your one perspective on the field.

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:17.919
<v Speaker 1>So in addition to you know, the field staff that's

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>down there, you also have uh staff that's looking at

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the video for when somebody is just holding their head

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 1>or they're getting up slow. Um, you know you can

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>you can just see more on on TV than you

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 1>will if you're kind of right there your perspective as

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>many angles. So these spotters, I think that's an interesting

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:43.919
<v Speaker 1>approach that they're doing and I like it. I really do. Okay, great,

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 1>can you tell me a little bit. You know, when

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I first read this idea of the fencing posture, I

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 1>was a little confused, what exactly does that refer to?

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:55.799
<v Speaker 1>As far as just as far as they're they're lean,

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>as far as when somebody's off balance and they're trying

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>to try and to catch themselves. They have this this

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>lean or this step. If if you watch the fencer,

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:10.400
<v Speaker 1>they have this, They've they've got this lunge. You know,

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 1>everything is kind of a lunch. So basically, when you

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:15.839
<v Speaker 1>get hit of you're trying to get up and then

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of in this leaning or lunging position. You're

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:22.879
<v Speaker 1>trying to catch yourself, but instead of lunging forward, they're

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 1>trying to get back up and there's this delayed to

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 1>that licensed certified athletic trainer Thomas low talking about that

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 1>lean when you get a concussion. When we come back

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:36.360
<v Speaker 1>on the Fantasy Freestyle, we're gonna hear more from Thomas

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Lowe in terms of how we might be able to

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 1>identify concussions in the future and why it's okay for

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:43.320
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<v Speaker 1>with a certified athletic trainer, Thomas Lowe here again on

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<v Speaker 1>the fantasy Freestyles that to beat Cipher Dame Martinez Um. Thomas,

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.880
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned that there are some great um improvements in

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the technology. You know, you talk about some of the

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 1>things that they can input into whether it these shoulder

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 1>pads or helmets to kind of measure some of the

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 1>strength of some of the hits. What are some of

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 1>the other things you mentioned Ridel as an equipment maker,

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<v Speaker 1>what are some of the other things that might be

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 1>happening giving us more information UM into kind of the bigger, faster,

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 1>stronger health players and what it means for safety in

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 1>their bodies. Well, not so much in terms of the

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 1>technology for the helmet, but one of the new things

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 1>that we're hearing that that they had proved a blood

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:49.840
<v Speaker 1>test that could put potentially find these bio markers to

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:52.800
<v Speaker 1>indicate that somebody has a concussion. So that's gonna be

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 1>interesting to see when that comes out. And we've got

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>some really really good neurouzis here in my area. We

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<v Speaker 1>actually have a jewel embails in this area. He's actually

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<v Speaker 1>right here in my hometown and he and I work

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0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 1>north Shore Medical, And so it's gonna be interesting to

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:13.279
<v Speaker 1>see if this is adopted where they're actually using a

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 1>blood test to actually tell somebody as a concussion. I

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:18.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know how far out that is, but it's being

0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:21.880
<v Speaker 1>released now that this test was approved. Oh wow, And

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:24.360
<v Speaker 1>how would that how would that compare to say a

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 1>baseline is it certain what exactly happens in your blood

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 1>when you get a concussion, and how would they be

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:32.759
<v Speaker 1>able to kind of um get that a digital baseline

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 1>for athletes. Well, it's it's not so much that you

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:39.840
<v Speaker 1>need a baseline, it's just a different bio marker that

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 1>shows up with the enzymes. There's actually a biochemical change

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 1>with concussion and that's when it gets uh, really dangerous

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 1>for humans is when that happens. And so this blood

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>test is able to pick those up, these these different

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:57.840
<v Speaker 1>indicators that that pop up, and so they use a

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:01.360
<v Speaker 1>ct uh to go through through and pick it up. Now,

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 1>how far how accurate this is, It's going to be interesting.

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:06.759
<v Speaker 1>This is literally in the past couple of months I've

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 1>seen read several studies on it. But you know how

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>how well that is in picking up these proteins uh

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 1>you h you know you see h in uh this

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 1>g F, A P these different proteins that bring releases

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>into the blood. And if they can measure that within

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 1>a short time after the trauma, it may be able

0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:28.839
<v Speaker 1>to help this diagnose Yes, you did a concussion. Wow,

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>that's incredible. Um And and talk to me a little

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 1>bit more about this, Thomas especially as it relates to

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 1>something you mentioned before that you know, they're also trying

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.800
<v Speaker 1>to measure, in essence, a a measure of wear and

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 1>tear on the brain based on not just concussions, bunny,

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and the accumulation of its right, So, could we see

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:46.279
<v Speaker 1>a universe in the future where you would have to

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 1>take some of these blood tests even after some kind

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 1>of traumatic brain event in order to be cleared, to

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:54.320
<v Speaker 1>see if these enzymes or elements dissipate from your blood

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 1>to the extent enough to be clean clear. And could

0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 1>we see this in other sports as well? I wouldn't

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 1>see why not if if it became standard practice, just

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 1>as an X ray is that, yes, you have a fracture,

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:10.319
<v Speaker 1>it's uh, it's not safe to resume until it's stabilized.

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:12.359
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't see why not, but it's it's a little

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:15.080
<v Speaker 1>too early to know about its efficacy right now. It

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 1>was approved, and so, you know, I think things are

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 1>heading in the right direction, that people are asking the

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 1>right questions and they're they're trying to find more objective

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 1>means of judging a concussion, because right now so much

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 1>is subjective. It's it's us interviewing the athlete it's us

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 1>looking at some there are functional tests as far as

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 1>balance and eye scan looking for the stigmas and et cetera,

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 1>where the eyes really reveal a lot. But there's still

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 1>a level of interpretation to it. It's there isn't a

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.240
<v Speaker 1>black and white like an X ray. You have a fracture.

0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:47.719
<v Speaker 1>You don't have a fracture, So it'd be interesting to see. Yeah,

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.239
<v Speaker 1>And I would also imagine from your side of the fence, Thomas,

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 1>this would also be great because it would remove some

0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:55.919
<v Speaker 1>of these, you know, cheerleading decisions that you referenced before,

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 1>like if you can want a blood test, that's a

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 1>lot more objective than somewhat something of the subjects that

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 1>you may see on the sidelines. Let's maybe taking some

0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 1>of the cheerleading decisions out of it, you know, and

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:08.320
<v Speaker 1>being as objective as possible if it's something like a

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:10.439
<v Speaker 1>blood test. Correct. Yeah, it would, and then it would

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 1>also uh, free me up to release people that can play.

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm fine. You hear that. I'm fine. I really feel fine. Sorry,

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 1>everything appeared as consistent with concussion. You're in the protocol now,

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 1>but I'm fine. And unless there's a definitive way to

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:29.640
<v Speaker 1>say no, we're gonna now are on the stand of caution,

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 1>and that's you're in the protocol and you're gonna have

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 1>to go through you know, the minimum mandatory five six stages. Wow. Um,

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 1>so that objective is now now you're clear, Now you

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.400
<v Speaker 1>can play boy. That would that would be nice when

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 1>people say they are an actually are fine. Yeah, let

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 1>me ask you one more question, Thomas. There was a

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 1>case of a kind of frontline player who was dealing

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:53.800
<v Speaker 1>with the concussion heading into the Super Bowl, and that

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 1>was Patriots tied at Rob Groundhausen. Yeah. What I thought

0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:00.320
<v Speaker 1>was interesting is, you know, he was ultimately clear and played,

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:04.360
<v Speaker 1>but he missed, Um, he missed media day, okay, and

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:06.360
<v Speaker 1>that was on Tuesday, and that's and you know, and

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 1>they said that he wasn't really ready yet for all

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the kind of loud snapping of the cameras and the

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 1>bright lights and you know, you know, all that stuff

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that goes along with you know, kind of that media availability.

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>But wouldn't you think that the Super Bowl is kind

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:22.239
<v Speaker 1>of a game even more than regular games in terms

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 1>of the noise and the lights and the cameras and

0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:28.759
<v Speaker 1>the and the sound system for the halftime artist, do

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 1>you think it might be even harder to get cleared

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 1>for such a big game with all those press opportunities

0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:35.719
<v Speaker 1>and everything that goes around the Super Bowl for a

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>guy like Groan. Yeah, I have mixed thoughts about this

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 1>and being you know, here on the radio with you.

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:45.800
<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be hard for me without knowing all the facts.

0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:49.320
<v Speaker 1>But I'll just try and speak eloquently and carefully. I missed.

0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:52.360
<v Speaker 1>You've done well so far. If I am an athlete

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 1>that's still sensitive to light and sound and talking in media,

0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:59.839
<v Speaker 1>ums day and then five days later, well no, if

0:45:59.840 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I days later, um, that could that could happen. So

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:04.799
<v Speaker 1>it's far as But if it's gonna you know, if

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 1>it's you can't clear up that quickly. Typically that's kind

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:11.520
<v Speaker 1>of within that first stage. Or you're still symptoms. So

0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 1>if you're still symptomatic, you're still symptomatic. You're not even

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:17.719
<v Speaker 1>in the protocol yet, so all your symptoms have to

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 1>be gone. I mean, it's not and that's when the

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:22.800
<v Speaker 1>protocol starts. That's when the protocol starts. But it's not

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:25.360
<v Speaker 1>like because some people have migraines, some people are sensitive

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:27.560
<v Speaker 1>light and sounds. So people that tonight is we're talking

0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:30.120
<v Speaker 1>about what's different for you. And so if there are

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:34.000
<v Speaker 1>certain things that kind of aggravate you anyway, you know,

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 1>loud noise and so on, and then you're coming off

0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:39.880
<v Speaker 1>a concussion, yeah, you may have a heightened sensitivity to

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 1>that from that standpoint. So it may be protecting him

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 1>and just to keep from retriggering him, to make sure

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:48.520
<v Speaker 1>we can continue to advance for the protocol. I mean,

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:53.440
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about millions here, so you're gonna want to

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 1>protect your investment and make sure there is no one

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:59.840
<v Speaker 1>step forward, two steps back and trying not to do everything.

0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm me, and I'll put kids in sunglasses in a classroom,

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll have them put I'll have them put your plugs

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:07.360
<v Speaker 1>into to deaden the sound, not so they can't hear instruction.

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:10.480
<v Speaker 1>But in colleges and in high schools, it's called what's

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:13.239
<v Speaker 1>called return to learn. You've gotta people return to learn

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 1>and not have all these things trigger and set you

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 1>off before you're even ready to return to play. So

0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 1>five days could you be sensitive and then five days

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 1>later complete, Um, yeah, you can. Every case is different, right,

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Every case is different. So it's really hard for me

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:35.880
<v Speaker 1>to judge his medical care and him. I can I

0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:38.400
<v Speaker 1>can see reasons why, but I can also see right

0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 1>reasons to ask was he ready? And and that's not

0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:44.240
<v Speaker 1>really fair for me to do that openly, fair enough, Thomas,

0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:45.960
<v Speaker 1>But you know, as a jetsman, any chance I get

0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:50.320
<v Speaker 1>to nail the Patriots in the wall, I love, But

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:51.719
<v Speaker 1>let me get you out of here on this. And

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I think this will be a less controversial one. One

0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:55.759
<v Speaker 1>of the things we see here in football and this

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:58.879
<v Speaker 1>time in the offseason, Thomas, interesting enough, is we're seeing

0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:02.799
<v Speaker 1>more and more nflars retire decided to just walk away

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:05.120
<v Speaker 1>from the game. And we're talking about guys with you know,

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:07.279
<v Speaker 1>that are under thirty years of age and have had

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:10.200
<v Speaker 1>less than say, five to seven years experience. And you

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 1>mentioned it before, this kind of awareness that is out there,

0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and people are taking this decision in their own ends,

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, after they've already made millions, so that they

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 1>can still preserve themselves from their life. Um and you, Thomas,

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I know, work at the high school level, at the

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:25.800
<v Speaker 1>college level. People have always wondered about the future of

0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:27.920
<v Speaker 1>the NFL, you know, like, will it get to a

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:30.919
<v Speaker 1>point where people don't want to play football anymore? Will

0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the NFL go away. So I want to ask you

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:35.120
<v Speaker 1>at the at the levels that you work at, you know,

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:38.120
<v Speaker 1>high school and in college, are you seeing any kind

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:43.320
<v Speaker 1>of fears from families or any dropping participation. Yeah, and

0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:46.759
<v Speaker 1>even from that that level, we've had one of our

0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:50.880
<v Speaker 1>our star stud um facts left college. He was drafted

0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and then he was hit so hard, basically knocked in

0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 1>morrow and basically shut it down at that point Wiseman.

0:48:57.400 --> 0:49:00.319
<v Speaker 1>So I've seen our guys come from high schoo where

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:03.480
<v Speaker 1>they're drafted and shut it down. We're seeing less enrollment.

0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:06.920
<v Speaker 1>There's actually many schools sometimes they can't even feel the

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:10.960
<v Speaker 1>whole team with it. And and this, this is this

0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:12.879
<v Speaker 1>is sad because the coaches are doing a great job.

0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:15.880
<v Speaker 1>They're making it safer and safer and safer. I'm not

0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:19.920
<v Speaker 1>seeing concussions in practice with at our level longer, not

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:22.839
<v Speaker 1>at varsity, maybe a little bit more at freshman because

0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:24.719
<v Speaker 1>they're still learning how to hit, they're learning how to fall,

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:28.279
<v Speaker 1>they're learning that's right, they're learning content. But when we

0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:30.440
<v Speaker 1>start to look at this, there's a lot of fear

0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:33.880
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of attack on football. And you know,

0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:36.400
<v Speaker 1>kids parenting to look at their kids wearing helmets biking

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:39.799
<v Speaker 1>little kids that are like around ten and young, you know, youth.

0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:43.320
<v Speaker 1>There's more head injuries and concussion from them cycling without helmets,

0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:47.720
<v Speaker 1>and and it's safer teams. So yes, it starts getting

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 1>replaced with football and so on. But we need to

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 1>look at cheerleaders and cheerleaders stunting and being tossed. But

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:55.319
<v Speaker 1>and we need to look at the cycling. So if

0:49:55.360 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 1>we're really looking at protecting kids heads, there's a lot

0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:00.920
<v Speaker 1>of areas that aren't getting attention. And it seems like

0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:04.720
<v Speaker 1>football is getting beat up a lot for this hyper

0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:08.040
<v Speaker 1>awareness you know that we're seeing. Yeah, no, I remember

0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 1>one time we spoken four times, you told me that

0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:13.000
<v Speaker 1>cheerleading was actually the spot where you see the most

0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:15.880
<v Speaker 1>head trauma. I was taken aback by that. Maybe football

0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:18.319
<v Speaker 1>getting something of a bad rap. But as you say,

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:21.600
<v Speaker 1>there is proper instruction going on at the youth levels,

0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:25.520
<v Speaker 1>equipment technology advances that are happening. Do you think do

0:50:25.640 --> 0:50:28.680
<v Speaker 1>you think we get to a place where the game

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 1>changes just by technique of tackling or by equipment that

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:34.600
<v Speaker 1>makes it safe, or do we um get to a

0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:37.280
<v Speaker 1>place where people know their limits with these kind of technologies?

0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:39.719
<v Speaker 1>And how many it's they've accumulated and continue to walk

0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:44.279
<v Speaker 1>away before they get the magic number. Well, yeah, I

0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:46.640
<v Speaker 1>think all that needs to happen, Yes, walk away before

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:50.160
<v Speaker 1>you hit the magic number, before you yourself destructive implode.

0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what we're trying to prevent. But it's

0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:55.000
<v Speaker 1>also nice not they have to live in a bubble.

0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, most of the activities I do if if

0:50:57.120 --> 0:50:59.400
<v Speaker 1>you don't have the helmet or there's some risk and

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 1>it's boring to me. So I mean, as many people

0:51:01.920 --> 0:51:03.360
<v Speaker 1>that are gonna want to live their life and not

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:05.279
<v Speaker 1>live in the bubble, but they're also not kind of

0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:08.880
<v Speaker 1>want to become you know, paralyzed, pressed, suicidal, um and

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:11.680
<v Speaker 1>just become dysfunctional because of this. You know, there's an

0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:15.320
<v Speaker 1>interesting piece I just saw thirty for thirty if you

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:18.440
<v Speaker 1>whom had caught that with Jim McMahon. He was kind

0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:20.680
<v Speaker 1>of one of our local heroes here out of Chicago,

0:51:21.239 --> 0:51:24.239
<v Speaker 1>and the long term effects of of you know, being

0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 1>hit in ahead and all the concussions he played through.

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:28.239
<v Speaker 1>So I think there's a lot of people just don't

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:30.560
<v Speaker 1>want to have currented disability and that's and that's wise,

0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:33.000
<v Speaker 1>and we need to get more information. So we can

0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:35.719
<v Speaker 1>help them make informed choices so they can play but

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:38.359
<v Speaker 1>play safely. Yeah, we hope we can figure this out.

0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:40.200
<v Speaker 1>It almost feels like when you talk about hits even

0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:42.440
<v Speaker 1>and not concussions. It almost feels like how you can

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 1>find the holding penalty on almost any play, especially with

0:51:45.160 --> 0:51:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the offensive and defensive lines just running into each other.

0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna accumulate that hit, those hits. But I hope

0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:52.880
<v Speaker 1>that we continue to try and stay ahead of the

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:56.120
<v Speaker 1>curve and inform people as much as possible. And I

0:51:56.160 --> 0:52:00.400
<v Speaker 1>appreciated Thomas uh learned license certified athletic trade or Thomas

0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Lowe coming on the Fantasy Freestyle to help us in

0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:06.799
<v Speaker 1>our listeners really understand. And Thomas, one baseball season gets

0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:08.400
<v Speaker 1>started in a couple of months. What have you want

0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:10.960
<v Speaker 1>to talk about all these hamstring polls and oblique injuries? Okay,

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:14.040
<v Speaker 1>all right, thank you, thanks for the honor to talk

0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:17.000
<v Speaker 1>with you. All right, Absolutely sounds good. Thanks again, Thomas

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:20.960
<v Speaker 1>uh here on the Fantasy Freestyle. So there you have it.

0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:24.520
<v Speaker 1>My conversation with license certified athletic trainer Thomas Lowe, friend

0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:27.399
<v Speaker 1>of the Fantasy Freestyle, Dilley. Dilley, he has been part

0:52:27.440 --> 0:52:30.840
<v Speaker 1>of the status overbeat Cipher for a minute. Um, I

0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:33.560
<v Speaker 1>want to also, you know, change gears. Although Thomas Lowe

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:35.480
<v Speaker 1>brings us the great insight at the end of this

0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:37.560
<v Speaker 1>episode of Fantasy Freestyle, I also got to give you,

0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:40.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, the fun and functional sports radio. So I

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:42.080
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about a couple of stories in the NBA.

0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:46.600
<v Speaker 1>The defending champion Golden State Warriors. Uh, we're in Washington

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:49.160
<v Speaker 1>to play the Wizards this week, and so it came

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:52.560
<v Speaker 1>back up that they were, you know, issuing their ceremonial

0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:54.759
<v Speaker 1>trip to the White House. They were invited, uninvited, you know.

0:52:54.800 --> 0:52:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Steph Curry had some things to say instead, check this

0:52:57.400 --> 0:53:00.560
<v Speaker 1>out though, they were going to an African American museum

0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:04.560
<v Speaker 1>with school kids from see Pleasant, Maryland in the area,

0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:07.920
<v Speaker 1>and that's also Kevin Durant's neighborhood, his area high school.

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:09.759
<v Speaker 1>Clay Thompson said, you know, with not going to the

0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:11.640
<v Speaker 1>White House though it is a quote unquote great honor,

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:14.799
<v Speaker 1>but they were, you know, uncomfortable going. They said, they

0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:16.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to politicize it. But instead they're just gonna

0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:18.040
<v Speaker 1>hang out with some kids to go to the museum,

0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:20.759
<v Speaker 1>hopefully teach some things they longed along the way life

0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:24.680
<v Speaker 1>lessons and hopefully give them some great memories. They actually,

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:26.759
<v Speaker 1>in fact thought about meeting with the Democrats, but then

0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:29.839
<v Speaker 1>decided that would infect be politicizing things. So who knows.

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:33.040
<v Speaker 1>But you know, um, everybody trying to make their stand

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:35.920
<v Speaker 1>get their voice heard, regardless of what corner they are,

0:53:36.440 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, fighting into or backing into. But check this out.

0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Let's keep it in political basketball. Okay, So we got

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the Warriors are shooing the current administration. The head of

0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:50.080
<v Speaker 1>the last administration may have a future with the San

0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Antonio Spurs. Check this out. Um. At a conference, the

0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Sports Conference at M I T, Barack Obama said he

0:53:56.040 --> 0:53:58.600
<v Speaker 1>would love to take every agent meeting with the Spurs.

0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:00.920
<v Speaker 1>He says, and I quote, there's smart, they're well run,

0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:04.360
<v Speaker 1>They're focused on team. He said, Um, they treat everybody

0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:06.600
<v Speaker 1>in the organization with respect, the kind of organization that

0:54:06.680 --> 0:54:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to be a part of. So I would

0:54:08.040 --> 0:54:10.280
<v Speaker 1>say over the last fifteen years in basketball, San Antonio

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:12.399
<v Speaker 1>would be a great example at that and I'd love

0:54:12.480 --> 0:54:14.000
<v Speaker 1>to take a meeting. But check this out. On the

0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:18.200
<v Speaker 1>flip side, Popovich not necessarily, um going for it, not

0:54:18.400 --> 0:54:21.319
<v Speaker 1>necessarily right in says he still needs to vet them,

0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:24.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, still needs to vet Brock that it's flattering,

0:54:24.800 --> 0:54:26.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, but he has to do a background check,

0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:29.360
<v Speaker 1>he says. Um, but this wasn't the first time. Actually, Uh,

0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:33.000
<v Speaker 1>former president forty four UM basically said nice things about

0:54:33.000 --> 0:54:36.720
<v Speaker 1>the Spurs when Spurs won the championship after the fourteen

0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:39.960
<v Speaker 1>fifteen season. I believe when they went um, you know,

0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:43.440
<v Speaker 1>he actually said that the Spurs represented the America as

0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:45.960
<v Speaker 1>a team first country and all there and that culture

0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:48.520
<v Speaker 1>and value. So you know, they've had a long standing relationship.

0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 1>But UM, I still don't think that's feasible. One thing

0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:53.239
<v Speaker 1>that might be more feasible as we keep it rocking

0:54:53.280 --> 0:54:55.239
<v Speaker 1>here on the Fantasy Freestyle on the Fantasy Sports Network.

0:54:55.320 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Last thing I'm gonna talk about tonight is, uh, check

0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:02.320
<v Speaker 1>this out in Philly, they going hard maybe for Lebron.

0:55:02.640 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh the the Sixers and Cabs played each other this week.

0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:09.359
<v Speaker 1>And also like they have young talent, they have money

0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:11.520
<v Speaker 1>to spend and they're like in straight recruitment. MO. Check

0:55:11.520 --> 0:55:14.799
<v Speaker 1>this out. A um Power home remodeling, which is based

0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 1>in Philly, paid for three billboards and you know there

0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:19.160
<v Speaker 1>is that movie out there right now. Three billboards, right

0:55:19.160 --> 0:55:21.360
<v Speaker 1>but these three billboards are used to basically recruit Lebron

0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:25.600
<v Speaker 1>okay and hashtag complete the process. One is just says

0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Philly wants Lebron, one says like I said, complete the process,

0:55:28.719 --> 0:55:30.120
<v Speaker 1>and the other has just like the numbers of a

0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:32.600
<v Speaker 1>starting lineup with number twenty three in there with a

0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:34.920
<v Speaker 1>crown on it along with Ben Simmons twenty five, stars

0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:37.120
<v Speaker 1>is nine and be twenty one. And this one has

0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Covington's at thirty three, so like no guards in this

0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:41.960
<v Speaker 1>lineup and also no uh no faults the you know,

0:55:42.080 --> 0:55:45.000
<v Speaker 1>number one overall pick of this year as he tries

0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:47.719
<v Speaker 1>to make a jump shot look look great again? What

0:55:47.800 --> 0:55:50.600
<v Speaker 1>shall we say? But um, you know, the CEO of

0:55:50.640 --> 0:55:53.000
<v Speaker 1>this organization was like, we're passionate about Philadelphia. We want

0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:55.040
<v Speaker 1>the best athletes to play here. We're have an amazing city,

0:55:55.040 --> 0:55:56.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, So they're in full on recroup BOARDE. I

0:55:56.520 --> 0:55:58.000
<v Speaker 1>think that was creative. I think that was cool and

0:55:58.040 --> 0:55:59.520
<v Speaker 1>you never know, that could be an interesting fit in

0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:02.120
<v Speaker 1>a way to try extended by passing the baton, you know,

0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:05.240
<v Speaker 1>to the process and EmpId and Simmons. That could be interesting.

0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:07.359
<v Speaker 1>We'll see what Lebron does this summer. That's about my time.

0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:08.759
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0:56:18.200 --> 0:56:20.759
<v Speaker 1>it be a spot foul. I think it's interesting that

0:56:21.120 --> 0:56:23.680
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