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Speaker 1: Live from Planet Blue in Malibu, California. This is the

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Speaker 1: Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast with i R Radio.

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Speaker 1: The season is ending in dramatic fashion. Tonight's episode of

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Speaker 1: Almost Famous Podcast will maybe be the same way. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back with a special episode after Women Tell All, we

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Speaker 1: have an episode that we're bringing on some of this

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Speaker 1: season's favorite contestants, and our first guest is definitely one

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Speaker 1: of this season's favorite contestants. We have Kerpa in studio

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Speaker 1: or in the shop right now. You guys, we may

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Speaker 1: have a better Tell All than the actual Women tell

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Speaker 1: based on this gossip that Kerpa is about to give. Y'all,

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Speaker 1: Holy moly, go for it, so you'll Yeah, you saw

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Speaker 1: it on The Women Till All. I mentioned that Kaylin

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Speaker 1: slid into a cast member's d M before she was

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Speaker 1: on the show, So that was Dean sid Dean Damns.

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Speaker 1: Do you here's a question. Do we have a problem

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Speaker 1: with that? I don't have a problem honestly. I think

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Speaker 1: what turned me off was how far along we were

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Speaker 1: in the process, and that's when she was bringing it up.

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Speaker 1: She brought it up there. Yeah, that's how we all knew. Wait,

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Speaker 1: slow down, Okay, So remember this is just people listening. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they only have one way to pick up on this stuff.

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Speaker 1: So you're telling me in the house or in the

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Speaker 1: mansion or wherever, beautiful location. Yes, in the car along

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Speaker 1: in the process. Was all this said on a mode

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Speaker 1: of transportation? No, this was we were in a hotel

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Speaker 1: on camera, off eating. Always she knows when to talk.

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Speaker 1: It's always when there's no mic on her, and she

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Speaker 1: says team at one point, I slid into somebody's how

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Speaker 1: did how did this conversation get to say? I don't

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Speaker 1: even know how it started, but we were I don't know.

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Speaker 1: She just brought up that she had tried damning him,

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Speaker 1: and I think they were supposed to meet and he

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Speaker 1: never like he know, he doesn't fall him. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: planning something with him on Friday, and it's like a

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Speaker 1: big to do. It's actually Jadeen Tayner's gender reveal, and

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Speaker 1: like every day I'm like, are you gonna back out?

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna back out? Um? I I think this

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Speaker 1: is wild news only for one reason. I wonder how

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Speaker 1: often this happens? Right? I mean, Kurpa, you're beautiful. The

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Speaker 1: show loves you, like you're coming off of this on

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Speaker 1: a higher You're gonna get so many d m you're

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Speaker 1: never gonna know. No, you know, you're never gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to keep up with it. And so the fact

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Speaker 1: that one Dean saw the d M is impressive. Second

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Speaker 1: that she sent the d M, you know what, she

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Speaker 1: was interested. Dean's a good looking guy. Women like him, like,

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Speaker 1: not that bigdeo. But the fact that she brings it

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Speaker 1: up half we do season, she's still thinking about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's why, Like it was such a big deal

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Speaker 1: and Katie brought it up. I brought it up like

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Speaker 1: to Colton, And that's that's what turned me off. It's

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Speaker 1: not the fact that she slid into the d m

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Speaker 1: s and like, I'm sure other people have done that too,

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Speaker 1: we're supposed to be like in this for Colton dating Colton,

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Speaker 1: It's like, are we bringing that up? Yeah? Uh? Did

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Speaker 1: before she was even in the casting process. I think

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Speaker 1: that makes a difference. So she's just a fan girl.

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Speaker 1: I can't say that I wouldn't slide into that. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but I think it was probably just a

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Speaker 1: few months before. I worry about this now though, I

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Speaker 1: guess I don't now. But when I was single and uh,

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Speaker 1: actually Nick, who's here tonight as well, and he goes

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Speaker 1: just slide in the d MS like cinema message, shoot

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Speaker 1: your shot. This is where shooting your shot backfires fast.

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Speaker 1: You can't just throw this. You can't throw the messages around.

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Speaker 1: Because what if I were to reach out to somebody

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Speaker 1: when I was single, Yeah, I send you a d M? Right,

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing like Kurpa like what do you have to

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Speaker 1: I go, oh, but Kirp and I talked a couple

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Speaker 1: just chasing after Bachelor Nation. Yeah, that's true. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: work out well, right, we gotta be careful out there,

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Speaker 1: it comes to the pusler. Well, let's get back to

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Speaker 1: the women's tell all, because I thought this was one

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Speaker 1: so just to kind of catch up a little bit. Uh,

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Speaker 1: last week, we watched Cold and Jump a Fence. UM,

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Speaker 1: one of the wildest things in Bachelor history. Kurpa, I

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Speaker 1: want to get your opinion on that in a second.

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Speaker 1: But the women tell all then happens, and right away

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Speaker 1: the women are after each other. And I was on

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Speaker 1: if you both agree. Let's not take anything away from

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Speaker 1: Colton in this statement, but they're saying that the women

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Speaker 1: this season definitely made the season. And I wonder if

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Speaker 1: after this tell all, if that was proven true or

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Speaker 1: not based on how it happened. You guys ran wild,

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Speaker 1: it was, but it was crazy. Yeah, it was really

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Speaker 1: And Chris stopped it a couple of times, saying like,

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Speaker 1: So there was some there're some arguments that really never

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Speaker 1: one ends for the night was on Jeka versus Nicole,

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Speaker 1: It is odd how the hot seats happened this year. Kurba,

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Speaker 1: I really don't. I wasn't expecting it to get that heated.

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Speaker 1: it was going into the second season of Paradise. Paradise

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Speaker 1: What was the passion behind it? Kerpa, what are your

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Speaker 1: during the last few episodes? Um? Well, after watching Colton

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Speaker 1: It was just after Katie had told us that she

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Speaker 1: like ask the deeper questions of casting and Kaylin just

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Speaker 1: here and we go, Kurt, but what really happened? And

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Speaker 1: One is do you wish it would have worked with

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Speaker 1: you in Colton? I don't think we were right for

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Speaker 1: but I don't think we were the right match. Question two,

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Speaker 1: Can I get outside of yourself? Can I guess what

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Speaker 1: you're gonna say? You're gonna say, who do you want

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Speaker 1: to see him with? If anyone? No, but we'll add that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: outside of yourself? Who do you want to see him

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Speaker 1: would be a good fit for Colton. Tasia for Colton

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Speaker 1: is what Kurba says in my final question, outside of yourself?

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Speaker 1: Who should be the next batchlor At? I love Hannah

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Speaker 1: Ge Hannah Gee for next Bachelor? Can we talk about

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Speaker 1: Hannah be first? I like, I have like a massive

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Speaker 1: this is where maybe you guys can help me with this.

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Speaker 1: People get that way with her. I didn't feel that

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Speaker 1: my god, I love her so much, like you guys,

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Speaker 1: be friends with her. She's amazing, She's just no bullsh

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Speaker 1: She just like finds me of a better version of me.

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Speaker 1: Like she's just like me, You're the best version of

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Speaker 1: to be involved in this drama. So it sucks that

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00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: I am constantly brought back into it, but I mean

427
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Uh, But I mean I

428
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: want to keep dating and find someone and potentially go

429
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: to Paradise. Thank you for my Leaden. So you know

430
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: that they're going to put you in Demi against each other.

431
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: I am absolutely sure that that will happen. So you

432
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: still don't like loved Demi? Huh? I don't really how

433
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: to pick up a problem with her at this point.

434
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: I mean, once we're back in that environment again, God

435
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: only knows that will happen. Seriously, your feud with her

436
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: seemed like nothing compared to her food with Courtney. Yea

437
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 1: and Courtney that got rough, was insane, actually handle herself.

438
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: She's not here right, I think she's away in Atlanta,

439
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: so you did not handle herself very well. And that

440
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: a pacifier like literally getting up into somebody's girl like that,

441
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: like to get literally somebody's grill. I thought she was

442
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: actually gonna punch her. I was sitting directly behind Corney

443
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: and I saw her, like slow motion get up and

444
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, what is she doing. And

445
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: she starts to approach her faster and faster, and I

446
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: think we probably all thought she was going to punch

447
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: her in the face. It was the craziest thing I've

448
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: ever seen. I thought I was un in for a

449
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 1: very different show. Was not good. It was not good.

450
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: She really did get in her face, shove a pass

451
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: for I would not have taken that well, showed a

452
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: pacifier in her mouth. I thought. I thought that was

453
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 1: one of the weirdest things that's happened. Um shish, little baby.

454
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: She was like trying to make a point that, like

455
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: Demi was a baby when one through the same age

456
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: that she wanted to make clear that Demi was the

457
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: more immature one in the situation, goes ahead, rows a

458
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: passify her in her mouth area, and she thinks that

459
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: that's proving she's more mature. Interesting stuff. Guys, Demi still

460
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: has this way though, to close that up with saying

461
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: all this stuff really being that pest that we've talked about,

462
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: being the lovable pest and still like walking away from

463
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: these situations like pretty unscathed. Like she just sit there

464
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: and took it through her jabs, walked up on stage

465
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: and did her thing and walked off smiling and everybody

466
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: clapped her. Demmy, it's like a scrappy box. Yes. Everyone.

467
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: Everyone loves her. And I love her now too because

468
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: I met her, you know, and we did interviews after

469
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: Womens at All and I was like, your bundle of

470
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: energy and joy, Like she's so fun. I loved her.

471
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: She's a great time. I mean, that's de me for you, Tracy.

472
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: We hope to see you in Paradise. I think we will.

473
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: I think we will. Um. I hope you prepare yourself

474
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: mentally for all this stuff that's gonna be coming up

475
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: in Paradise for you, that I can prepare myself a

476
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: little better this time around and maybe like push back

477
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: a little at time. We have three questions. We asked everybody,

478
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: Uh tonight. Yeah, First one is do you wish it

479
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: would have worked out with Colton? I wish it would

480
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: have just worked out with someone that I had a

481
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: connection with, Colton or anyone but Colton specifically. Do you

482
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: think it would have worked out? I think we had

483
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: a lot in common and he's someone that would have

484
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: been a really great friend for me. But no, we

485
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: probably weren't great for each other too. Who do do

486
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: you see Colton being most compatible with or is there

487
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: anyone he really would be in this group? Um? I

488
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: think he's probably the most compatible with Cassie. That's the

489
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: first that's the first vote for Cassie in the second

490
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: vote of the night. But why do you say that? Why? Um?

491
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:52,239
Speaker 1: Because we saw it because of what we like. Um.

492
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: I mean he's distraught and heartbroken over her, and you

493
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 1: don't get that kind of emotion out of someone who

494
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: only has lukewarm feelings for someone. He is you can

495
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: tell he's very much in love with her and really

496
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: really wants it to work. So it's Cassie or nobody.

497
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: And finally, who should be the next bachelor at other

498
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: than yourself? I think I'd make a great bachelor a personally. Um,

499
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: I think that Klin would make a beautiful bachelor at

500
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: actually so we had the first vote for Klin. Hey, Jcy,

501
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Carry yourself with poise, go on paradise,

502
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: do something cool that we can talk about. I have

503
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: a lot of fun, find yourself love all right, thank you?

504
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:42,240
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505
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506
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507
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508
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,520
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509
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Speaker 1: But a lot of times, no matter how much we

510
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511
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532
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: success recently from Night one Exeters from the franchise grocery

533
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: store Joe comes to Mind, Dance with the Stars, hosting

534
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: Dance with the Stars on tour and going on Paradise

535
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: and finding love. We have a Night one Exeter on

536
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: the podcast right now. Jane, Welcome to the Almost Famous podcast.

537
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: I am totally team Joe. By the way, he's like

538
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: an angel in human form. How do you know? Well,

539
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: I mean I've watched and I feel like I have

540
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: a pretty good like perspective as like the audience does.

541
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: So like, I mean, who doesn't love Joe, right, He's

542
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: like he's the most one of the most lovable guys

543
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: on TV. In my opinion, he's kind of like your

544
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I would imagine is he your role model?

545
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: Kind of because I look at him and I'm like, Okay,

546
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: he didn't make it far. He should have, right, but like,

547
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: now look at him. He was like on Dancing with

548
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: the Stars, like people still got to see his personality,

549
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: like he's sweet, he's funny. So like I look at

550
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: him and I'm like, okay, whatever, you don't have to

551
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: make it far. If you have a presence, you know

552
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: the audience will recognize it. Anyways, let's be really honest here.

553
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: There's one person for every every season of Paradise that

554
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: was eliminated night one, one lucky person gets that chance

555
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: again and right, and I think it's between you maybe

556
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: now after this woman tell all and floff girl, it's

557
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: gonna be a battle. I mean, gosh, I love her

558
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: so much, like me and her super similar because they're

559
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: both outgoing and like funny. I mean, if you look

560
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: at the women tell all, I do feel like I

561
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: had a little bit more of like more of opinions

562
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: to say. Um, but if it does come down to

563
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: me and her made the best woman win both of us,

564
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: where I high five the slaty What is it like?

565
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: I mean, we haven't talked to a Night one Exeter

566
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: since Joe, but Joe's was a little different because all

567
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: of a sudden he blew up on the Twitter sphere.

568
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: What is it like to prepare for the show, go

569
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: on the show, and then leave Night one? Like? What

570
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: is that? Honestly? What are those feelings like? I mean,

571
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: you know, getting ready for it, Like, at least in

572
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: my experience, like I walked in there and I was

573
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: like I felt confident. I like, I'm pretty like open

574
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: and I'm not really shy, so for me, like I

575
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: didn't really have like too many barriers. So when you

576
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: go home night one after feeling confident, it's kind of

577
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: like a pretty big downer. Like I was almost like

578
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: I kind of self doubted myself for a little while.

579
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: But I'm back, I'm alive, I'm here, I'm ready prepared eyes.

580
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: And I'm just kidding, how did that conversation with go?

581
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: You know, our conversation went so well it didn't even air,

582
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: like people didn't even get to like see it on TV.

583
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: But like, our convo went so good. We were laughing,

584
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: like there were no awkward pauses, There was no like

585
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: twirling of the hair, like what do I say next?

586
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: Like the conversation was really flowing. So I think that

587
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: was like a really big surprise, like when I got

588
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: sent home because our one on one went pretty good.

589
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: What's it then like watching the whole season back, knowing

590
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 1: you were at the mansion on night one, and now

591
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: you see these women who you probably didn't know well

592
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: but you ran into on that night, you know, pursuing

593
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: this Colton guy and now falling in love, and you

594
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: watch this whole thing now as a fan. Yeah, I

595
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: feel like my perspective as well as like, I think

596
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: there was one other girl and the women tell all

597
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: who went home night one, So I feel like our

598
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: perspective really resides with the audience because we watched it

599
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: all on TV um and I don't know some of

600
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: the girls. I was just like, Oh, they're just sitting

601
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: there to that really taking much action, Like I don't

602
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: really see their personality. So for some of them, I

603
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: was a little surprised, um, but definitely looking back at

604
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: night one, Um, maybe I should have taken more action.

605
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: You know at a second, Jane, you acted as if

606
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: you were friends with Kaylin. You don't know Klin. Well,

607
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: see again, my perspective comes from watching the whole season,

608
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: like just like the audience, and I don't know she

609
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: held herself with class and dignity. You know, I didn't

610
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: see her going to Colton talking like deep behind other

611
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: girls as backs. But they were all attacking here. But

612
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: you were refuting stuff that you don't actually know happened

613
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: or did not happen. Well, I stated in Women to All,

614
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm like watching it from television. I think she held

615
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: herself with dignity. And I think a lot of girls

616
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: are jealous, and I think a lot of girls are insecure.

617
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: Um and yeah, I think they were all just snaking

618
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: up on her, and like I honestly felt bad, like

619
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: I have her back. Like just from my perspective, it

620
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: is a it is an interesting moment when when somebody

621
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 1: to go home sits there and at the tell all right,

622
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: because you do sit there as a fan like everybody else,

623
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: you had a unique fans perspective, and then you choose

624
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: to speak up, which I think for everybody watching goes wow,

625
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen very often. What was going through your

626
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: mind in that second and that moment to go, I

627
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: need to say something now and this is my this

628
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: is my time to say It was this before after

629
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: the tequila shot. No, I'm not kidding actually, and that

630
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: was like my little trap. Um. I was like, whatever,

631
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: I have an opinion. I'm not scared to state it. Um.

632
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: I never bash anyone, but like, I'm going to be honest,

633
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: and I am team Kalin. I think she's classy, I

634
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: think she has dignity, and like when all of them

635
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: attack her, like I'm gonna step forward. I don't blame

636
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: me for that. I mean, hey, this is your moment,

637
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: take it or leave it, and I hope you have

638
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: another moment. In Paradise. We're asking every single person that

639
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: sits down the night these three questions. Jane, do you

640
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: wish it would have worked out with Colton? Why? I'm

641
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: so sorry. You know, He's just not my cup of tea,

642
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: Like I prefer strong coffee. Actually no, no, no, let

643
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: me rephrase that. I prefer like, I know the man

644
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: that I marry is going to be the kind of

645
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: man where when a girl walks up to him for

646
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: the fourth time asking if she can interrupt, my man

647
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: is gonna be like this babe is crazy. No, you

648
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: cannot interrupt for the fourth time. That's the kind of

649
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: backbone I want in a man. So we don't want coffee,

650
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Like, let's you know that, Let's

651
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: make it an espresh of shot, you know, like ay

652
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: question the second question, who remaining do you want to

653
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: see Colton with? If any? I mean, gosh, I keep

654
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: saying team Calin. I do like Halin, I do like Tasia.

655
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 1: I feel like they were the most like easy going

656
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: with him. Um, it just seemed the most natural to

657
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: and finally, outside of yourself, who should be the next

658
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,280
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659
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm so kidding. I definitely don't think it should be me.

660
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: I do think it would come down to shocker. Kay.

661
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: Who are you guys all surprised? Thank you, thank you

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694
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695
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: I think this girl's great. I have no clue why

696
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: she went home. I don't know what. Week three we

697
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: have Brie on the podcast in person this time, welcome back,

698
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: finally meet you guys. Thank you, Brie. Um. You talk

699
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: to us a couple like a month ago, I want

700
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: to say, and you're like, I wish I had more airtime.

701
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: I feel like people needed to get to know me better.

702
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: But then you still didn't say anything during women. I'm

703
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: that I really I texted in the day, I said,

704
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: what is going on? I'm pulling forward. She's one of

705
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: my favorites, and I watched tell all and you're not there.

706
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: You're literally wrikingly beautiful, like you're like, thank goodbye, like

707
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: that was on crack like above. Um, I wanted to

708
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: say more, Honestly, I just I don't know. I wasn't

709
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 1: there for the drama. I left so early, So honestly

710
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know about what was going on in the house,

711
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: and I just I didn't feel like I needed to

712
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: like add to anything that was going on with Nicole

713
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: or with Demi or whatever. I didn't. I didn't have

714
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: anything to say. I'm more of, like, you know, sweet

715
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: and soft with my words. I don't want to hurt

716
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: anyone's feeling. So I kind of just sat there and

717
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: waited until I was called on. And because our last guest,

718
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: Jane who night one, was like she I just had

719
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: to say something, had such a voice. I was really surprised,

720
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: very surprised. But I don't know. Yeah, Brie, I'm more

721
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: team year thought process on this, because I don't I

722
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: think like, if you weren't there, you can't like act

723
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: as if you really know facts, Like you have an

724
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: opinion based on what we all saw, but you don't

725
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: know I'm basically just a viewer like anybody else, just

726
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 1: commenting on what's happened on the show because I'm seeing

727
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: it all just from TV. I didn't have anything to say.

728
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: I didn't need to add anything and make less of

729
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: anybody there, So I didn't need to add to that.

730
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: What do you think, Ben, I mean, I'm with Brie

731
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: in this. I mean, I just think, you know, there's

732
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: a unique situation. Yes, at your moment, and you've been

733
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: on the show, and yes, you're sitting up there and

734
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 1: it's exciting, and you have you can talk whenever you want,

735
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: So I get that. You know, you if you went

736
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: home at night one, it's probably exciting for you. But

737
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: I remember during Caitlin season The Bachelotte, there's a guy

738
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: that had went home early on and was kind of

739
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: criticizing Caitlin, and I was very angry. I took it

740
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: very personally because I was like, you just haven't been

741
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: there to get to know her. You have no right

742
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: to speak, and so I don't think. I don't know

743
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: if it's harsh or not. I don't think if you

744
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: weren't around during the tell, you don't have a right

745
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: to talk like you you don't know the insides of

746
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: the story. You know, it's like you can't don't go

747
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: here like you don't you can't talk about Colton like

748
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: six weeks down when you weren't there for the six

749
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: weeks and seeing him cry and cry with him breathe. Yes,

750
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: I still don't get it. So, I mean, because here's

751
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He's looking at your face, but he

752
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: has a girlfriend, so yeah, but I'm looking at you

753
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: and I have a girl crush on you. So this

754
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: is what surprising to me, honestly is you. You throw

755
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: off more bachelorette vibes than any buddy else that I

756
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: can think of in the season right now, you think,

757
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: I mean the soft spoken. I want to be kind,

758
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,959
Speaker 1: I want to be considerate. I don't want to speak

759
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: outside my turn. I want to make sure that I'm

760
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: listening to everybody that's bachelortte material. Why isn't the conversation happening? Well,

761
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: I mean there wasn't enough to go off of. Frustrating

762
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: no one knows about me. I mean, there wouldn't be

763
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: a much interest. I don't think compared to other girls

764
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: that you would know that make it farther into this season.

765
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's going to be some interest

766
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,479
Speaker 1: after Paradise. Well you were interested in Dean, you said,

767
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: Ben and Dean. But Ben is a taken man now.

768
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 1: So we heard that Kaylin sleeped In sleeped In slipped

769
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: in to Dean's d MS before the season. I didn't

770
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: going back. Who's going to get Dean? I didn't know

771
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: that actually, Um, but Kayl and I were friends outside

772
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: of the show. We talked, We're hanging out tomorrow and I, um, yeah,

773
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: So I mean it's up for grabs, you know. Will

774
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: you ask Caitlin tomorrow night for us? Who's gonna get Dean?

775
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: You or her? You guys over the place? Here can

776
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: we do? And we've done these a zillion times, we

777
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: proposed this idea of a zillion times. But let's make

778
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 1: Dean the almost famous bachelor and we'll have you guys

779
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: all in the in the running. I actually just texted

780
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: Dean while we're here and I said, all these girls

781
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: want you. It's so nuts. Why isn't he here tonight?

782
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: He is just getting back. He just got back yesterday

783
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: from Japan. Yeah, Dean, Dean has that way about with

784
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: with the ladies. Good for Dean, Um, I don't know

785
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: if he's interested in anybody right now. I think he's

786
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: traveling the world and having a blast doing it. Um

787
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: So Caitlin slides in the d MS. We talked abut

788
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: a little bit ago. She's your friends, so you're never

789
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: back here. We can't get we can't figure out is

790
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: it okay to slide into a bachelor or bachelor at

791
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: Contestants d m s and then go on the show.

792
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: So you slide in before the show and then you

793
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: go on to the show. Is that Is that an issue?

794
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: I don't know is this public knowledge? Like, how do

795
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: you guys know that? Because Kerpa, you were there, you

796
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: weren't listening. Ka didn't name names in. Um, yeah, I

797
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: didn't know. But um, to be honest, I mean about

798
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: a year or two ago, I was in. Was his

799
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: name Chase? Yeah, I reached in, you know, That's what

800
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: I said. I would have done it as a fan

801
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: girl before Calf. Yeah, I've been watching the show. I

802
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: thought it was cute. I actually saw him at Horror

803
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: and it's a couple of years ago and I was like, yeah,

804
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stay what's up? And it didn't go anywhere.

805
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's did he respond, Yeah,

806
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it didn't go anywhere. Okay, Yeah,

807
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: well that'd been juicy. I would like that anyways. Um,

808
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: I don't think it's wrong. I really don't. I mean

809
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: I think before you know you're going on the show,

810
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: you see somebody your attract to, you're interested in, uh,

811
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: and you say hi, what's up? And you see where

812
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: it takes you. I mean, I slid in the d

813
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: M S. I'm getting I got better at it. Look

814
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: what it brought me. You can't hold yourself back. It's

815
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: just the way of the road these days, you know.

816
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: It's it's how we meet people. You know. Where is

817
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: life going to take you? I mean we I follow

818
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: on Instagram. Now you're modeling, You're you're traveling. Now, this

819
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: was happening way before the show started. What is life

820
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: going to look like for you in this Paradise A

821
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: part of it? I hope. So I would love a

822
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: chance to be on Paradise. Um kind of just doing

823
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: the same thing I was doing before the show hasn't

824
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: changed too much. Um. So yeah, I'm hoping for a

825
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: second chance in Paradise. We'll see where that goes as

826
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: a model. Does it hurt your career or help it

827
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: to be on the show? Because I know that Courtney Robertson,

828
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: who of course got a villain edit and made it

829
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: to the final rows, she said it hurt her career,

830
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: but with you, you went out a little bit more discreetly, right,

831
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: does it appens? So? I think because I didn't make

832
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: it as far on the show, it didn't affect me

833
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: in a negative way. I think it could. I know

834
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: that that happens to a lot of girls that go

835
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: on UM America's Next Top Model and things. I have

836
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: friends that have done that and it only hurt their career.

837
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: So I mean that was definitely a risk that I

838
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: was taking by going on this show, and I don't

839
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: Luckily it didn't do that. UM kind of just it's

840
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: been the same now before we close up, we've been

841
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: asking everybody the three questions, and I think are fun asked.

842
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: But I want to ask you. Were you excited about

843
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: it being Colton? Um? I was excited to get to

844
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: know him. I didn't really know who was going to be.

845
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: I was just really interested in whoever would show up

846
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: because I felt like, UM, the bachelor always past a

847
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: well rounded guy and that's hard to meet in l A.

848
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: And so I figured whoever it would be, he would

849
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: be a great guy. And he was. I hear that

850
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: a lot, that it's hard to date in l A.

851
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: Do you guys agree it is? Yeah, it's hard to

852
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: date in l A, very hard. I've been single for

853
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: three years, so that's ridiculous. I think that that is

854
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: a travesty. I'm texting Bean after this. I'm saying, Dean,

855
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're thinking, buddy, but you're an idiot.

856
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: If you don't try this, you're not going to be

857
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: the better one. Actually not going after that. We're gonna

858
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: set up now we have our Dean is the almost

859
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: famous bachelor and Brie is the almost famous bachelor. At

860
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: let's do it. If I could buy and I'm gonna say,

861
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: if I could buy Stock and Brie right now on.

862
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: I think these next couple of months she's going to

863
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: become a fan favorite and she is gonna rock Paradise.

864
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: Do you agree? Yeah? I think that you're alone. You

865
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: don't cost very much to buy in now, but the

866
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: people are going to be millionaires. Um predicting it now, Bree.

867
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: Three questions Okay, so the second question you got that one,

868
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: and now the second question is who remaining do you

869
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: see Colton ending up with? And none of them is

870
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: an answer. None of them is an answer if you'd

871
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: like it to be. I'm really curious to see what happens. Um,

872
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: I don't know where like this goes after Cassie. He

873
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: obviously seemed very into her and she left. Um, so

874
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,959
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what will happen next. Maybe

875
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: no one the so we have Jade Tanner's a little

876
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: little baby cry, Emmy's flipping in the background. It's late.

877
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: I get it. Um all right, Briee. Outside of yourself,

878
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: who should be the next bachelorette? I don't know if

879
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: I could handle the bachelorette, to be honest, I don't

880
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: know if I want that for myself. Um. I think

881
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 1: Tassia would be a great bachelorette. She was previously married

882
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: and in the house, she was an amazing woman and

883
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: friend everyone, So I think that she would really hold

884
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: herself well. And um, yeah, I think she's in for

885
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: the right reason. That's nice to hear. That is really

886
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: nice to hear. I like Tasha. I think Tassha Tasha

887
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: just seemed to get, uh the raw end of the

888
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: deal here At the end, the perfect storm happened and

889
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: Tassia got pushed out. Why Colton was trying to shouldn't

890
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: I s push in? That's what she said. Everyone, Hey

891
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: Brie again, I know we'll talk to you after paradise.

892
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 1: During Paradise, I'm excited to watch your your whole experience

893
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: here for next couple of months. Thanks for coming Almost

894
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:03,120
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895
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,480
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Speaker 1: You're professional at this by now, aren't you? Oh? Such

919
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Speaker 1: a professional? Absolutely not, Heather on the podcast, Heather, you're

920
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 1: a fan favorite. We may be saving the best for last,

921
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: and then you're back and ready to go. I I

922
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: just gotta start. Um. I know that you guys have

923
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: sat together a couple of times. Right now, we haven't

924
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: never met. I thought you guys had met well, but

925
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna dive in. I'm not saving any questions

926
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: for Ashley. How does this work? I have good friends

927
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: who are twenty four and they haven't had their first

928
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: kiss yet. Really yeah, good friends three that I can

929
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: name because it all came up and watching the show

930
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: Beautiful People, Beautiful women just hasn't happened. Um, I know

931
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: this is something you can talk about all the time.

932
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: How does this happen for you? Like, is this really?

933
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: You've never been kissed? It is real? I have never

934
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: I had never been kissed. No, it was real. Have

935
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: you kissed anyone since Colton? No? No, don't say like that. No,

936
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: I have just every single person I see, every guy

937
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 1: on the street. Yeah, yeah, restaurants. Yeah. After my first kiss,

938
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: I was dreading my second. I was like, I'm still

939
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: not ready to jump back into that. I was scared

940
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: of Colson. I was like I did the first thing.

941
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't. I can't do it anymore.

942
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: It's too scary what your first Okay, thanks to feel

943
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: a little bit better. So leading up to the Bachelor,

944
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: there was your expectation to have your first kiss on

945
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: the show, like in life, like before the or like

946
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: once I was on the bat Okay, Um, I mean

947
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't positive I could have got I was like,

948
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: maybe I'll go home night one second week. So I

949
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: didn't know, but I thought, I mean, if I got

950
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: far enough, then obviously that was kind of going to happen.

951
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: I can't think of a better way to have your

952
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: first kiss. I thought it was fantastic been on the show.

953
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: I would oh if I had, If I hadn't been kissed,

954
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 1: I would have been waiting. I would have saved myself

955
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: at that moment, because you sure knew it that there

956
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: was gonna be fireworks, blasts in the background, a lot

957
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,479
Speaker 1: of like just intense girl. But here's what I gotta

958
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: tell you. You did great. I watched that back so

959
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: replay like you had. You had great friction. I thought

960
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: your mouth's aligned just perfectly. You moved at the perfect rate,

961
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: and there's a rhythm to it. I thought, for your

962
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: first kiss, how did you learn or how did you

963
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: prepare for that moment? I didn't prepare. I mean I

964
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: was terrified the shower wall. I did the shower wall,

965
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: and I did my arm. I mean not too much,

966
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: but enough enough, like enough to at least feel how

967
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: it feels. Yeah, I didn't prepare at all of the

968
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: When I got the date card, I literally Hannah by

969
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: she wasn't really one of my really close friends. They

970
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: look at her and I'm like, help me. Yeah. I

971
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: was like, like I was terrified because I was like,

972
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: on the one on one either I'm gonna go home

973
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna kiss him, like it was one of

974
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: the two. It wasn't really you know, it was gonna happen.

975
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: So I was just like, like, I was panicked. So

976
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: the entire day I was just like, Oh my gosh,

977
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: how did she help you? Did she give you some

978
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: good advice? What did she say? She just gave you

979
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: some advice. I can't even remember now. I kind of

980
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: blocked it all out, but yeah, she's just like, hey,

981
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: just she just kind of pet me up a little bit.

982
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: But I thought that was one of the most underrated

983
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: moments that we didn't talk about in this season is

984
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: the fact that Heather in the clutch with pressure on her,

985
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: fireworks in the background, pulled through and just has an

986
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: amazing makeout session with Cold. You were so good, it

987
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: looked so natural. I would have never thought your hand

988
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: placement was great. Thank you so much. The only hard

989
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: part which we talked about was the lead up to it.

990
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: Colton did a terrible job but not making that moment

991
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: really awkward, Like there was a lot of like wanted

992
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: it to be awkward. No, I don't think he did.

993
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: I don't think he knew how to move. Maybe he

994
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 1: just didn't realize how awkward it was. But for the viewer,

995
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: I had to cover up my eyes during it because

996
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: he had like one arm around you. There was like

997
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: talking and then like looking off at the distance and

998
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: then talking. You're like, just kiss her, just kiss her,

999
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: make it happen, and he did it, and then finally

1000
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: it happened, and it's like this relief, but for a

1001
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: long time it was like one of those awkward moments

1002
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: on the show that's really hard to watch. Yeah, I know,

1003
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: I was terrified. I honestly, I don't know why. I

1004
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: didn't think like there was fireworks. I just didn't know

1005
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: for sure. And I was like the whole like that

1006
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: whole entire, like last ten minutes, I kind of like

1007
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: blacked out. I really wasn't sure what was going on.

1008
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: But I was like, what's going to happen? We're standing here,

1009
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: and it was like a long time that was like

1010
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: something's about to happen. So I was just like I

1011
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: don't know I do not know how sad would have

1012
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 1: benef it didn't happen. Oh if I was like, oh

1013
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: this is special to wait until wasted for her because

1014
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: I know she's not the one. Yeah, he could have.

1015
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: I mean that's what I wasn't like at the dinner.

1016
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: He could have said like sorry, like I don't I

1017
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: don't think you're my wife and I don't want to

1018
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: waste that. So I wasn't sure. You said that there

1019
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: was some weird eight months relationship that you were in

1020
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: and you didn't kiss the guy. I said. I think

1021
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: on the podcast that this must have been just like

1022
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: the producers saying, do you like, there must have been

1023
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: some guy, so tell him a story about some close

1024
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: to be relationship and you were like okay. So I

1025
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: went on a couple of days with this guy. It

1026
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: went over the span of eight months. I've had those

1027
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: weird I like been on dates with guys and I

1028
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: didn't kiss them until like date five because it was

1029
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: so dragged out and separated. Was that what it was like? So?

1030
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: I dated a guy after college and he was super

1031
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: intentional with dating and he had gotten out of a

1032
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: really intense relationship and where he was it was super

1033
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: intense relationships. So I he was really interested in pursued

1034
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: me and asked me on dates, and I just really

1035
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: wasn't sure, Like I just wasn't You just didn't like him,

1036
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: You were not sure because I, like, I wanted to

1037
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: like him so badly, good on paper, had everything I wanted,

1038
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: and I wanted to like him so badly. So I

1039
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: kept going on dates with him for eight months for

1040
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: a long time. But he knew my situation, so he

1041
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: knew you had ever been kissed. Yeah, we were friends

1042
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: before and then, but he wasn't such a serious relations

1043
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: relationship before that. I didn't want to give him any

1044
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: further affirmation if I wasn't fully feeling okay, it was

1045
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: just bad. I don't know this hits deep. I actually

1046
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: I have talked about it many times, like just talking

1047
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: about relationships and how that works in the pressure when

1048
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: you you know, say you're a virgin with Colton or

1049
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: you haven't been kissed like that, people don't want to

1050
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: take that from you. So here's the big question now

1051
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: and then it's happened, and man, we're really expounding on

1052
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: this kiss. So I'm sorry about that, but it's so

1053
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: interesting to me. Do you regret having it happen. Oh

1054
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: absolutely not. There we go. Hey, No, it wasn't radical

1055
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: first kiss you could ever have. When people were like, no,

1056
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to on TV, I was like, why

1057
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: that's why else would you want? It could have been more?

1058
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: For Acre, You're never going to regret having your first

1059
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: kids with a hot guy, like a nice guy on

1060
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: TV with fireworks. Yeah, it was highly It could have

1061
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: been better. It could not even better. I wish I

1062
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: was sometimes. Okay, my last question for you is you

1063
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: left on your own, and I have this inkling that

1064
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: you left on your own because you're like, rather saying

1065
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: goodbye on my own and then have to say to

1066
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: have him say goodbye to me at a rose ceremony,

1067
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: that's a well, that's what my fear doing that because

1068
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want people to think that.

1069
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's what That was my biggest fear. When

1070
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: I wasn't fear because I was like, I don't want

1071
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: people to think like, oh I think I'm gonna get

1072
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: broken up with and so I need to dump in first.

1073
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: That's so stupid. I could care less. So you really

1074
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: didn't really didn't feel it. So he expressed that week

1075
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: in Denver that he was so serious about wanting to

1076
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: get engaged at the end of this and that that

1077
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: was something he absolutely wanted. And I felt like at

1078
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: the point in our relationship that I just didn't have

1079
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: enough time with him at that change things up for Cassie.

1080
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 1: He said, never mind, don't need to get engaged. Unbelievable world.

1081
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm stressed out for everybody right now. We've asked every

1082
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: guest that's came on three questions. Ready for him? Ready?

1083
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 1: Do you wish it would have worked out with Colton? No? Obviously,

1084
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: Now you left yourself go why did you break it?

1085
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: You just went into it. I just I didn't have

1086
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,479
Speaker 1: enough time. He wanted to get engaged, That's what he said,

1087
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: and so I just didn't think I had enough time

1088
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: with him to know, and I wasn't fully confident, and

1089
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: I knew that the other girls, a lot of the

1090
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: other girls, the four girls left, were so got it. Okay,

1091
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: number two, which are the remaining girls? If any do

1092
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: you think will be good with Colton? I think Hannah

1093
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 1: g R. Cassie, I think both of them. Okay, wow,

1094
00:56:55,000 --> 00:57:00,919
Speaker 1: interesting votes. Cassie. I think I think that they would

1095
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: be a good I think Cassie and Colton they're a

1096
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: good match. Like I really do like their lifestyles, like

1097
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: everything about them. I really like even during the show,

1098
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: like I was like, yeah, they would be a really

1099
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: good match. But I mean, I don't know. Okay, final

1100
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: question outside of yourself, we would't even ask you yet.

1101
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: Are you gonna go on Paradise? I don't know of course. Okay, anyways,

1102
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: I'll set of yourself. Who should be the next Bachelor

1103
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 1: at one of the Hannah, Oh no, Hanna be She's mine.

1104
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: But like Hannah, Gee, that's totally fine too, both of them.

1105
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm fine with the Hannah. I'm fine with one of

1106
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: the Hannah's perfect. Okay, wait, are you gonna have your

1107
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: second kiss ever on Bachelor Paradise? See the second kiss

1108
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: for Paradise? And then when you look at the camera

1109
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: and give us this thumbs up like this for you

1110
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: actually been Heather, Thank you so much, Thank you so much.

1111
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: This is fun. That's so fun. Alrighty, the this episode

1112
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: is going to be closed up or till all I

1113
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: thought was fantastic. I love for this episode. One of

1114
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: our greatest works. We are next guest has his own podcast,

1115
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: now called The Vital Files. Um. He's been on the

1116
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: podcast many times. He's one of bach your nation's most infamous,

1117
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: iconic and legendary people. We love him. His name is Nick.

1118
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: Nick welcome back to the Almost Famous podcast. And he's

1119
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: the only one that approaches us with his eyes on

1120
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: his phone and not a smile. I'm just happy to

1121
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: see here. That's a beautiful Jackie's gorgeous man's jacket. He

1122
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: just always dresses night. How do you? How do you

1123
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: dress nice all the time? I threw this on to

1124
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: be quite honest with you, right after I painted you

1125
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: painted shirt list today? Was it a livestream? No? No,

1126
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: I have to re I have to I'm gonna do

1127
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: another one here. Wait, Nick, this is one of the

1128
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: first things I want to talk to you about. Is

1129
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: this real? Like you actually are that good at painting?

1130
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: I just I just painted this man. No, you did not.

1131
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: I don't get how you do this, Nick? To make

1132
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: it so, we're bringing Kurpran Heather back. They're walking past.

1133
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: Do you believe that Nick is this good of a painter?

1134
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? I have to do another one.

1135
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean, we're if you if you need to go

1136
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: on Nick's Instagram at some point and follow this. It is.

1137
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: It is one of the most unbelievable things I've ever seen.

1138
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: I watched the first time back three times because like,

1139
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: how have I never seen? What is this? What is this? Oh?

1140
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: That was my first try at this paint. If you

1141
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: don't know what we're talking about it, it's gonna be

1142
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: up on Nick's story soon. Just keep checking. I'm coming

1143
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: I they want to call it, I'm gonna get me

1144
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: an I g t V and I'm gonna call it

1145
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: paint therapy. Okay, wait, you say it's paint by the

1146
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: numbers or paint? What is it called paint? What I'm

1147
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: gonna do like a show? No? I know, but what

1148
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: is this paint? I'm gonna talking paint. He's eating a starburst?

1149
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: But how long have you had this skill? I mean

1150
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: I have always I wanted to be a cartoons for

1151
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: Disney when I was a kid. How about how this

1152
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: never came up on the show? And how have I

1153
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: never known this? About? How hold on Sorr? I shouldn't

1154
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: have chosen Well, so again, this is gonna this is

1155
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: gonna be all I wrote I wrote on my first

1156
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: season on on Andy season I I wrote that book

1157
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: and I drew those pictures. That's so cute. So there

1158
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: was a bit of an artist in you. I've always uh,

1159
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,439
Speaker 1: I've always wanted I've always wanted to be an artist

1160
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, and then I just didn't

1161
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: do it for twenty years. This it just shows where

1162
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm at in life and single and so I just

1163
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: looking for hobbies and you know, things to do when

1164
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm alone at night. And you picked up painting, I

1165
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: like it, are you going to display them in your home?

1166
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: I thin't gonna give them away? It actually costs a

1167
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: lot of like every time I do a painting. I

1168
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: think with us, it's like a hundred bucks, like supplies

1169
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: in the frame. I think we're just gonna give them away.

1170
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, like friends or like Oxen

1171
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: and Waffe for charity or something or something like or

1172
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: something maybe a way to like sell natural habitstential oils

1173
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: dot com. I mean, yeah, please promote everything you got. Okay, Nick, uh,

1174
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: we have a big night ahead of us still, and

1175
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: so let's get to the point. Who do you think

1176
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 1: should be the next bachelor? At Uh? Hannah be she

1177
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: really warmed up to me here's the thing. UM, A

1178
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: couple of reasons why I think Hannah Be will Be

1179
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: is the best pick amongst the women. Um. She had

1180
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: mildly unfavorable at it early on, uh and then really

1181
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: warmed up, and I think everyone liked her more. UM.

1182
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: I think it's a really compelling storyline, especially and I

1183
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: think Klin is great. I like Kalin um, but um,

1184
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: certainly Klin is gunning for the bat sharrette and I'm

1185
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm assuming she wants it to so for Hannah Be

1186
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: to get over Kalin. She like, finally beat finally, you know,

1187
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: it's like the underdog story. And think she was as

1188
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: jealous of me and she did it and I Karen

1189
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: just fine. I also think Hannah b is the most uh.

1190
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: She emots the most and the most interesting, and she

1191
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: will probably it will She's the most entertaining to watch.

1192
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: She's she's not safe. She makes me giddy to watch.

1193
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: She will she will do things that she regrets, and

1194
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: I will enjoy watching it. Okay, So I think she

1195
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: would be a great choice. So this episode, UM, with

1196
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: Colton and the fence jump, would you call that the

1197
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: most dramatic? Which I haven't I haven't been able to

1198
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: look to see how the reactions. Chris Harrison said, they

1199
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: broke the world, break the world. It's a bit hyperbolic,

1200
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: but it has to be one of the most It's

1201
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: gonna be like bird Box where everybody's like jumping over

1202
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: fences today. I'll be honest a little envious of Colton

1203
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: because he did have the most dramatic episode of her No. Well,

1204
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how this is all going to play out,

1205
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: but it sounds like a quit. It sounds like it

1206
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: looks like he's gonna chase the girl he likes, and

1207
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: you know he's it's gonna it's romantic looking. And you know,

1208
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 1: Cassie has been clear that she's not ready to get engaged,

1209
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: so he like, there's no pressure to get engaged anymore

1210
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: for Colton. So you're jealous because you wish you could

1211
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: have just dated instead of getting engaged. Well, I mean,

1212
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: like it's just it's a it's a lot less pressure,

1213
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: um to just to keep it real. Um. And I

1214
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: think there's stresses that the engagement can can bring. Um.

1215
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a it's an interesting interesting it's

1216
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: an interesting episode. So there's a tweet that I want

1217
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: to ask you about nick uh that Colton has tweeted

1218
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: it says the realist moment ever hashtagg the batchelor. Do

1219
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: you believe this was the realist moment ever in Bachelor history?

1220
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: I don't love that Colton tweeted that himself. Yeah, it's

1221
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: a little self promoting. Uh. Do I think it's the

1222
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: most realist? I mean it's a It was a great episode.

1223
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: I think there's been a lot of real moments. I mean,

1224
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't know you could pick the do you think

1225
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: you could pick the most realist? I felt like there's

1226
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: some episodes, there's some moments that we had that I'll

1227
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: tell you what I mean. Had Vanessa left in that moment,

1228
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: I probably would have done the same damn thing. Um,

1229
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how you would have felt if Lauren

1230
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: when I left in that moment, Probably similar, I think.

1231
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: I think what's interesting about this episode is that it

1232
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: it kind of and I'm proud of the show for

1233
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: airing it, is that they kind of showed what would

1234
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: ultimately prayby happen every season at this point, I think

1235
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: it's pretty common for the lead to have a favorite

1236
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: or a front runner at this point, and if your

1237
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: front runner or your favorite at this Laten game decides

1238
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: to leave. Even if you weren't sure about your decision,

1239
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna make you into panic mode and and make

1240
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: you want to you know, the whole want way. You

1241
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: can't have element maybe players and and so I think

1242
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: Colton's reacting authentically to it. Is it more real than

1243
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: you know everyone else who's in those you know, you're

1244
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: only a product of whatever environment you're in. You know, Um,

1245
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: it was real for you to fill Joejoe and Lauren

1246
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: that you know, like you know, it's just it's whatever

1247
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: happens happens. Um. I mean, you could have a bad decision,

1248
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: but it was probably a real moment when I when

1249
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: I you know, afar with Andy you regrettable but real. Um,

1250
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't. I don't. It's it's been self

1251
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: promoting at that point. It's a little weird, alright, feel

1252
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: himself right now. I don't know to tweet during this

1253
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: during this episode, I think at all, say what you

1254
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: feel then come out. That's exactly I said. It's it's

1255
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: odd to tweet it all during this episode. So, um,

1256
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I think this episode is so emotional and

1257
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: so hard to watch it, I think do you think

1258
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: it takes away from the real illness of it a

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Speaker 1: little bit? Yeah? I think it does. Almost like if this, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you couldn't you couldn't talk about this openly? Uh, if

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Speaker 1: it was if it hurt that much? And so this

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Speaker 1: is what this is where I'm reading into this. Then

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Speaker 1: now I wonder what happens in the weeks to follow,

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Speaker 1: because if if he's at a place where he can

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Speaker 1: emotionally tweet about this and watch it back with confidence

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Speaker 1: and at least enough clear he's either a uh he

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Speaker 1: was either a full of or be with Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. It's pointing to what's happening next

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Speaker 1: to him being Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's my theory.

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Speaker 1: So if that's the case, let's make let's lead under

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Speaker 1: that assumption. Are you jealous too because he gets to

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Speaker 1: be with the girl and not have to get engaged? Um, no,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to get engaged. I was confident, but not

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Speaker 1: want to get engaged. But what were you ready to

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Speaker 1: get engaged? Yeah? I was, I was, but I can

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Speaker 1: see me like ready in life, I'm going to engage tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I think Ben was ready to get I was, I was,

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Speaker 1: I was. I I do think though, what it does

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Speaker 1: say and I get what you're saying, is it takes

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Speaker 1: the pressure off um and that he kind of gets

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01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: to have his cake and eat it too, which a

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Speaker 1: little bit, which is not ideal for anybody in this

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Speaker 1: whole thing. Well also also like Colton is probably too

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Speaker 1: young to get engaged. That was kind of the big

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Speaker 1: that I wrought the same age. You were at a

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Speaker 1: different place in your life. You're not you were. You

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Speaker 1: weren't a virgin. You you dated more than three people. Um,

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Speaker 1: you had experienced. Colton, by his own admission, hasn't had

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Speaker 1: no experience with dating. And that was the one criticisms

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Speaker 1: and going in that he's how could he be ready

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Speaker 1: to get engaged? And now he's like, it's getting a loophole.

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Speaker 1: It really worked out most fulfilling prophecy. Um. Okay, Nick,

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Speaker 1: you have the new vile files UM file files. You know, UM,

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Speaker 1: we wanted we don't talk about compete more of it

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Speaker 1: probably with Jared and Dean in Vanessa. How is yours

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Speaker 1: different from how does how does that? I really mastered it?

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Speaker 1: Is it pretty good? Rights? How? What what are they

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01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: going to get from your podcast that they won't from

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Speaker 1: our Bachelor podcasts. Oh well, I mean we don't talk.

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Speaker 1: We talk a little Bachelor, but it's not the focus,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of give the people what they want.

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Speaker 1: We try to. It's a lot of dating stuff, a

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Speaker 1: lot of life stuff. I really just kind of talked

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Speaker 1: about what's on my mind. We take questions from fans

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Speaker 1: and they come in with their interesting dating stories and

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Speaker 1: um they we just try to get the nittigati, nitty gritty,

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Speaker 1: um different ideas that come in my mind. Last week,

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Speaker 1: we had a psychologist and we talked about anxiety and

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Speaker 1: depression and I kind of just talked about the things

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Speaker 1: that I didn't get depressed and get anxiety about, and

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Speaker 1: hopefully it might be helpful and try to break down

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Speaker 1: the kind of preconceived notions of what therapy is. This week,

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Speaker 1: um on on this coming tomorrow, we'll be dropping an

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Speaker 1: episode talk about body issues. And I have two of

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Speaker 1: my friends. They're both models. One is a curve model

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Speaker 1: or plus size model, if you will. The other one,

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Speaker 1: uh is just a regular model. But like obviously they

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Speaker 1: are objectified every day for their bodies. And and I've

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Speaker 1: had some stories about, you know, mistakes I've made in

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Speaker 1: dating and just how people in their bodies and dating

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Speaker 1: is play a role, and it's just another topic we

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Speaker 1: talked about. Um. So yeah, we're just kind of having fun. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I think when I have a Demi on the following

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Speaker 1: week fun. Yeah, I'm I wasn't sure if I was

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Speaker 1: gonna have her on. I was like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: So Demi is gonna help me recap the Bachelor finale

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Speaker 1: and we'll we'll get into some maybe we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: internet bowling or bowling with Demi. Hey, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: so we just talk. I just I like I like

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Speaker 1: to hear myself talk an absolute man. Hey, uh, let's

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Speaker 1: head out of here. It's been a big night, Nick,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. Make sure you tune into Vittle Files.

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Speaker 1: I've been, I've been Ashley. But before we have to

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Speaker 1: guy across from me sign off. Oh hey bye, guys,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. You've been who I've been, Nick,

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