WEBVTT - Andi Dorfman’s Tell All 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:06.040 This is the most traumatic podcast ever. And iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:10.880 Chris Harrison here with you, and I'm excited about today's 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:13.960 show because I'm excited about today's guest coming on the 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:18.760 show with me today is former Bachelorette Andy Dorschmann. I 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:21.079 met Andy the first time when she was on the 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:24.439 show as a contestant with Juan Pablo. I think we 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:28.280 all know how that went not great. Then she became 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:35.000 the Bachelorette, was very beloved, it seemingly worked out, then 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:37.559 didn't on the show, and then she kind of went 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:41.519 on this journey of kind of this Carrie Bradshaw journey 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:45.280 of finding love, the ups and downs of living in 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:47.239 New York, in la and Paris, and she wrote a 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:51.280 couple of books. But now she has fallen in love, 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.200 found love, and gotten married. But she's kind of disappeared. 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:57.440 She's kind of fallen off the map, and everybody has 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:00.960 been asking me, Hey, where's Andy, what's going on? We 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.840 haven't heard from her, and I think she's just been 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.200 outliving her life and being very happy. So I thought, 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:11.520 let's reach out, and I did, and she was unbelievably 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:14.560 kind and gracious enough to come join us today on 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:18.880 the most dramatic podcast ever and joining me now from 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:22.240 I assume her home somewhere in the south, Andy Dorfman, 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:27.000 how are you doing it good? Are you good? Where 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:28.000 do you live now? 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:29.920 I don't know. 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:33.880 Y'all have a home? Like what's your at? What would 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:37.000 your address say? What would be the city in state? 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:39.560 Greenville, South Carolina? 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:41.160 Oh, which I hear is beautiful? 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.600 It is? It is beautiful, It definitely is. It's been 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:45.920 an adjustment. 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:50.120 Though, from New York to LA to Greenville, South Carolina. 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:53.240 It sounds like the makings of a Hallmark movie. 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.120 I know, right, it's like close to Charleston. 0:01:56.320 --> 0:02:00.880 Big city girl moves out to the small city right right. 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.360 I'm like, Okai, where's the beach? 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.680 No, okay, all you need to do now is like 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:07.960 open up a bed and breakfast and like raise goats 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:09.320 right right? 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:10.519 Or babies? 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:12.880 Or babies is like where. 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:13.680 You go to have babies? 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:16.440 It's fertile land. 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:19.880 I live in a town where you go to have kids? 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:23.520 Is that the goal? Yeah? 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.040 For sure? Not Right now, We're gonna enjoy a little 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:28.280 bit of it. It's funny. Everyone's like, which is a 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:30.720 common question? I get it as soon as you get engaged, 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:32.400 people are like, oh, what are you getting married? As 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.080 soon as you get married, people ask when are you 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:36.680 having a baby, which is kind of bizarre. I'm like, 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.440 this is a that's pretty personal, but I get it. 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:41.639 I mean, every wants to know. But we're good. We're 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.880 gonna have like a fun summer. I told Blaby can 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:45.400 start trying when we take a honeymoon. 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.239 I told my kids, because my kids get annoyed by, 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.800 you know, the question of the moment, And I said, 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.200 here's the thing, you're just have an answer ready because 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:56.600 people are going to ask you when you're in high school, 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.119 where you're going to college, when you're in college, what's 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:02.360 your major when? And then it's like where you're working. 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:04.640 Then it's when are you getting married? And so just 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.079 have an answer ready because my kids are just like real, 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:10.760 like once you get asked five thousand times. But yeah, 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:14.399 so I'm sure the baby question post marriage has has 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:15.639 definitely started to hit. 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:17.760 Yeah, but then you know what, I've realized, just put 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.200 it off, just t him oh later, not now. 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:23.160 I also know that you really really want to be 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:24.840 a mom, and you're going to be an amazing mom 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:29.560 when and if all that blessing happens totally. 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:32.120 You know, I'm definitely not getting younger, but I feel 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:35.080 like we still wanted to have a blowout somewhere like 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:36.920 Blaine and I. You know, we just got married. We 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:38.760 haven't been together for decades or anything. 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:40.280 Yeah, honeymoon first decided. 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:42.720 Yeah, we're like, we're going to blow it out this summer. 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.160 We're gonna travel, We're going to like have fun, do 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.200 the things that even though you can do any of kids, 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.760 is not as easy. So we're good. I'm going to 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:51.680 wait till like the wintertime. 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:56.120 You've been pretty quiet since marrying Blaine, who I had 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:58.119 the pleasure of meeting gosh, I don't know when. When 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.280 was the super Bowl party when we ran into you eyes? 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.520 It was so great because I had not met him yet, 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.800 and I think he's the definition of tall, dark and handsome. 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:09.440 Yeah, he's pretty easy on that. 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:11.920 He is pretty easy on the eyes. I'm not gonna lie. 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.000 I don't want you to get jealous. There's nothing between us. 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.200 But he's a handsome guy. 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.200 He's pretty easy on the eyes. Yeah, that was super 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.560 Bowl probably two years ago, a couple of years ago. La. 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:24.680 I don't think we were engaged yet either. 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.200 No, you weren't y'all just you just kind of gotten 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.359 serious and really just I think had essentially gone public 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.240 and we've ran into you guys and had a chance 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.320 to talk and have since, you know, seen him a 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.880 couple of times, and it just I loved and I 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.400 texted you right afterwards. I said, I just love the 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:45.640 smile on your face. You look so happy. What is 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.520 it about you, guys? What is it about him that 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:48.479 made you so happy? 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.039 He's the best? I mean, you met him, like everyone 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.440 that meets my is like, he's just the best. He's easy, 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:58.080 he's cool, he's got like swag, he's funny, he's kind 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:01.440 like he's a boys boy for sure, like he is 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:04.520 a bro, but he's like a softie and he's sweet 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.920 and like it's funny because he's literally my best friend, 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:09.760 which is good because I don't have a ton of 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:13.120 friends here, you know, so it's nice to have like 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.159 a built in best friend that you live with. And 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.039 I used to always think that was so weird when 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.760 like women and men would say that, because it's like, what, 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.360 I've always been a girl's girl, so all my best 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.000 friends have always been female. So I always thought that 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.719 was just kind of weird, But now that I have him, 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:29.839 it's like, this is truly like not only my partner, 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.919 he's my friend, he's my lover, he's my confidant, just 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.120 kind of everything. And I mean you can probably relate 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.599 to that with Lauren. It's like when you find that person, 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.640 they just kind of it's all of it. There's no 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:41.880 one thing that you pick out and you're like, this 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.000 is what I like most about him? It just it 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:48.080 all in totality works, it's all fun. It's your partner, 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.080 you know, like he's my partner for life, no doubt 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:50.400 about it. 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.599 What's funny you say that because you and I had 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:55.960 kind of similar paths and we talked a lot about 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.360 this love and finding love. And I'm not going to 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:03.640 say you and I were skeptical, but probably we both 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.239 had a heart that because we both had been dating 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.640 and going through things, and you and I would share 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.000 when we would run into each other, and it did 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:16.480 seem like finding a unicorn of like how is are 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.520 people really in love? Are people really finding their best friends? 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.400 Does this really exist? And so when you do see 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:26.920 that and you recognize it, it almost seems so obvious, like, oh, yeah, 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.200 it was there. I just needed to find it. 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.479 Yeah, it's like the aha, You're like, Aha, this is 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.640 who I was always supposed to be with. And you know, 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.800 I think some of that is helpful with age and maturity, 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.840 where you start to just realize that, hey, like this, 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:42.839 I can have love with my best friend. It doesn't 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.440 have to be dramatic and crazy, and you know, it 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.839 doesn't have to be these games like it actually makes 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:49.280 it so much more fun when you find the right 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.200 person to just be with and not have to deal 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.440 with all that stuff. But that comes, at least for me, 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.719 with a lot of maturity for sure, and experiences. 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:59.240 And you know, because you were so experienced in this 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:03.520 world when you met him, how protective of you were 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:07.240 you and how careful were you to kind of baby 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.280 this thing along publicly because that's a big thing, and 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.200 how to foster that and prepare him for what you 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:16.560 were probably going to go through because y'all remain private 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:17.160 for a little bit. 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:22.360 Yeah, for sure. I mean we met summer, like in August, 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.560 and I think I remember him coming for Thanksgiving that 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.200 November with my family, and I feel like we didn't 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:30.800 go public till like January. I should remember for a fact, 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.680 because it was Casey Hawsmer's wedding January we went public. 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.600 I think for me, I wasn't worried about anything with Blaine, 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.040 Like I wasn't worried about Blaine's past. I wasn't worried 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.320 about how he reacts, Like he's such a good guy 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.560 that none of that worried me. I just worried about 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.440 like people comparing and they still do, which is so 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.880 ironic to me. Like to this day, I'll post stuff 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:53.720 on Instagram and people will be like, oh, so glad 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.480 you'd end up with Juan Pablo or so like you're 0:07:56.520 --> 0:08:00.720 writing another man's name like on my wall. Well, my 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.360 husband is in the photo. So it was more of 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:05.520 and it's not that big of a deal. It's just 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.720 little things like that that I don't want him to 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:09.880 like have his feelings hurt, and I don't want his 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:11.840 name to have to be in the same sentence as 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.520 you know, someone from the show's name. So I feel 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.720 like it was more protection of that with him and 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.640 less about like people getting to know him and see 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:22.920 him and end up loving him like I do. 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.960 God, you just mentioned one, but I totally forget and 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.640 you were even on one Poplo season. It's such a 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:34.200 distant memory and so much has happened since. 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.240 There's some good old days though. Back then we had fun, 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.760 Like remember we were traveling, like from his season in 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:42.760 my season, I feel like we had so much fun. 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.600 Well back then too, the show was you know, the 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.520 show had money. It was good. We actually traveled to 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.319 resorts like that you would want to stay at. It 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.200 was I mean it was really there was these destinations 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.880 and then you know when all the budgets changed and 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:00.360 all that, and you're staying in a motel six, you know, 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.880 on the backside of town. It was like and we're 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.080 trying to paint this beautiful picture. But yeah, and I 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:09.440 look back too at that group of women. I looked 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.160 at a picture the other day. It was a group date. 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.560 Were we in New Zealand? I forget where we were. 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.120 Maybe it was Vietnam. I don't know it was Vietnam 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.520 because right, yeah, and the picture I was like, looking 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.520 at who was in your group? I was like, Wow, 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.240 that was like a great group of women. 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.400 Yeah, all star cast for sure. I think, like, and 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.679 we were so in it for like, I don't want 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:33.559 to say the right reasons, like we were there. We 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.240 all like experienced it so much, and I remember like 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:39.160 the social media was nothing back then, like everything was private. 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.240 You were like okay, cool, Like I probably had ten 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:43.600 followers before I even got on the show. And now 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.280 obviously that's changed it for better and worse. But I 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.920 just remember like we had so much fun, and like 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:50.960 I look back on the experiences that we had, they 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:55.360 were just like so authentic and cool and it was great, 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:56.560 Like it was a great time for me. 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:00.400 Do you think what's changed is And maybe I've never 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.000 thought about what you just said, but I think you 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.880 hit the nail on the head when people talk about 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:08.240 who was coming on the show and why back then, 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:09.959 and it wasn't like back of the day. I mean, 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:11.640 the show had been on for a while, but I 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.760 felt like you guys, you ladies, and most of the 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:20.400 guys came on genuinely, and then what happened after that 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:24.840 you took advantage of and instead of now, I feel 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.679 like people were coming on to take advantage of it, 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:31.040 and no one was really leaning into the show and 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.640 enjoy you know, like, well let's just see what happens, 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:35.719 Let's enjoy the travel, let's enjoy the process. Going to 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:37.880 meet some girls, you know, may fall in love whatever, 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:41.800 but then afterwards, well I'll take this residual bounce and 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.959 you know, better my life or whatever. But it definitely 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:48.360 started that group. It was just genuine everybody was having fun. 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.600 It was a blast. It was just a lot more fun. 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.080 I feel like it's one of the last seasons where 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.640 it was that authentic and real. Crystal is like, I 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.720 feel like his season because he was right after me 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.439 Bachelor obviously his girls. I feel like we're the first 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:05.920 to kind of start that social and it still came 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.760 after for them. It wasn't so much of going on. 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.000 But back in our day, it was like you went 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.160 on and some people's motive was just to be the 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.559 villain and like so no reason, you got nothing out 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:17.480 of it. Like that was like that was the not 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.280 there for the right reasons. Now it's social media. It's 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.720 all this ads, gigs, all kinds of stuff. 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.360 Yeah, it's definitely changed, but yeah, it's just funny you 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.480 mentioned I totally for I just maybe I just blocked 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.079 that whole season out traumatic syndrome, right. 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.559 God we got through it though. 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:38.920 But then you became the Bachelorette, which was a you know, 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.200 for for us anyway a popular decision because I was 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:43.120 so excited to get to hang with you, because you 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.520 were just so easy. I'm like, well, this is simple. Yeah, 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:49.280 Like you're the least needy person I think I ever 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:49.720 did the show. 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:53.840 Yeah, I was there. If you gave me some wine, 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:58.160 I was good food and wine. I was happy, will. 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.240 Work for food and wine. That has not changed, by 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:05.440 the way. But what when you look back, do you 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.360 look back with fondness on that experience, on all of it, 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.800 or is there a part of you that wishes I 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.679 kind of wish that wasn't even part of my story anymore. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.800 I think it's a mix. It's definitely not. I never 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:22.000 wish it wasn't a part of my story because I'm very, 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.559 very fortunate from the show of like what I get 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:26.400 to do and where I get to be and the 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:28.400 things I've done, the people I've met. And I've always 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:31.160 said that, like it was a life changing thing for me. 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:34.199 I mean completely. I was twenty seven, twenty eight years old. 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:35.240 I thought I was going to be a lawyer for 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.559 my life, and you know, next thing you know, I'm 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:39.520 like going to Paris and living in New York and 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:43.160 doing like incredible things so it's just it just changed 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.400 my life. It wasn't so much of like, oh it 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.280 made it so much better. I wish I wouldn't have 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.200 done it. It just it changed my life. And there's 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:54.440 really no reason to kind of, you know, dissect it 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:56.280 and say was it good or bad, because it was 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.640 it hastened here. I am. Yeah, it just was. And 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:01.120 I think it took me a while to kind of 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:03.440 accept that, to be honest. There were things that, of 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:05.959 course I wish had never happened on the show, as 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.320 everyone does, you know. There were things that I felt 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:11.520 like a little humiliated about, especially like the live show after, 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.040 Like that was really tough for me. Now I'm thirty 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:16.560 six years old and I'd be like, who gives it? 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.040 You know, I don't care. But back then there was 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.680 seven twenty eight. It was super impactful. So I look 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.200 back on it with the impact that it had in 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:29.440 different ways, but not necessarily as like, oh it was amazing. 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:31.480 It was amazing, not necessarily as like oh it was 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:32.920 like the best thing in my life or the worst 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:33.440 thing in my life. 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.760 It just was well all things, you know, when I 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.480 used to describe the job, because people go you know, 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:40.199 would say, oh, my god, you have the most amazing job. 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.559 You travel around the world. It's the same thing. All 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.280 things can be true, multiple things can be true at 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.160 the same time. It can be a great experience. You 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.960 can remember it fondly. It's not all It wasn't all great, 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.240 you know, same thing with my job. It's like there 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:54.800 were a lot of things that sucked about it. There 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:56.360 were a lot of things that were amazing about it. 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.280 I look back on it with great fondness and good memories. 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.560 Where there are things I would change absolutely, but that's life. 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.079 Yeah, And you're right, just a part of your life too, 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.040 It's not it's not my whole life. That's the other 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:11.440 thing is like, I don't identify the show my whole life. 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:13.800 You know, I don't really work in it as much anymore. 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.800 I don't like it's just it was a part of 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:18.719 my life. But my life is a lot bigger than 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:19.240 just the show. 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.240 But you've made that decision, and you know, I think 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.800 that is what I always tried to tell Bachelor's bacheorettes. 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:27.800 I mean, Ben Higgins and I had this kind of 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.160 famous conversation he always talks about where I said, take 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.120 this and let it enhance your life. Don't let it 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.320 become your life and change everything about you. And some 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.520 people do get swallowed up by it. You've seen it, 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.440 and you know it's it's unfortunate. It's like the you know, 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.440 move for move to La and let it take over 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.960 your life, and you you quickly realize that that is 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.600 a fleeting flame and it goes out quickly, and then 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:54.280 you you're kind of chasing and chasing. And so those 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:57.160 that get engulfed by it, you do see it, and 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:01.000 you did a good job of just the outskirts of 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:05.560 that and then maintaining your own existence, which was important. 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.360 Well for me. It's also a short term fix. You know, 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:08.920 we don't know how long the show is going to go. 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.960 But if you're if your entire world is Bachelor Nation, 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:17.160 like what happens when it's done right? Like right, yeah, 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.800 for sure, So what happens. And I think me personally, 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:21.960 I always like I never wanted to rely on it, 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.560 especially in a financial aspect like that. So it was 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.240 like I needed to do other things, whether I was 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.160 writing the book, whether it was like just doing other 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:31.640 things that you know, pulled from Bachelor Nation for sure, 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.840 but like also like I need a whole life, full life. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.720 Are you so happy that? I mean, you probably would 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.240 have fallen in love with Blaine anyway, but the fact 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.960 that he's just such a regular guy away away from 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:49.480 all of this, was that a little bit attractive to you? Yeah? 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.960 I mean, to be honest, in hindsight, I'm like, I 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.000 don't know if that's really my type, like the guy 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.120 that goes onto a reality TV show. Like again, like 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.360 in hindsight, I'm like, that's probably not the person I 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.120 was going to end up with. You know, I need 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:04.200 someone like career driven oriented all that stuff. So yeah, 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.400 it's nice to just have like a solid guy that 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:09.880 is not doesn't care. I mean the only thing that 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:13.960 he watches on TV is sports, Like there's nothing else TV. 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:15.720 He's such a dude. 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.560 Is he a Georgia Is he a Georgia Bulldogs fan? 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:22.160 No, It's He's funny because you know, he played college baseball. 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:23.960 This is how big of a Broie is, Like, he 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.960 played college baseball, and so he's like, yeah, it's just athletes, 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.440 just sports. Like when I took him to Casey's wedding, 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:31.680 who married? Uh he was playing with the Padres at 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.480 that point. I'm like, what islay going to think, like 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:35.880 the entire team's going to be here, and he was like, 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.360 oh cool, what's up. Like he's just a guy, so 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:42.040 he's not really like he doesn't fallen over sports. I'd 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:45.520 say he probably likes basketball, but like Georgia football, it's 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.120 not his team. It's not my team either, never was. 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:53.400 But Tiger an l girl. Yeah, Lsu and Waite. 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:10.359 You guys get engaged and you decide you're going to 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:15.600 get married in Italy. That was that was that because 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.879 I was one of your first dates, or not dates, 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.199 but big trips together. You're like, we're going to come 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:22.080 back here and get married. 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.520 We met there. We met in Positano, so I had 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.080 met him one time back in college. I got a party. 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.080 Never talked in like fifteen years, like we weren't friend, 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.320 we didn't communicate or anything. And then he was in 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.240 Italy when I was there, we met up and it 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:38.280 was like, okay, when we've gone engaged. Were that was 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.280 the whole Like we didn't even look at anywhere else. Actually, 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:41.840 now that I think about it, it was more aware 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:42.479 in Italy. 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:46.159 Yeah, and so tell tell me about this magical wedding. 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.719 I Oh, it was so fun. It was great it was. 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.960 We did three days. It was small, which was perfect. 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:54.280 I was like, I do not want to be walking 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.080 down the aisle with three hundred people, nothing like that. 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:01.320 It was very like small, intimate. It was great. It 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:04.040 was in Italy. Like we had a little bit of 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.720 a rain scare, which was really really interesting because it 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:08.080 was going to rain on our wedding day and we 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.840 were boating everybody down the Malfy coast for the actual 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:14.280 ceremony at this beach club that we love, and then 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.720 we're boating them back. So the day before we're like 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.560 looking at villas to try and move everything indoor. We 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:22.119 were looking at the weather super stressed, and Blade and 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.119 I were just like, screw it. We haven't, you know, 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.879 made it this far. We're going for it, and the 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:30.800 sky's kind of opened. It rained everywhere except Sorrento on 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.159 our wedding day. It was the wildest thing. It was 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:36.000 just perfect and like, that's good luck for Blaine. I 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:37.879 feel like Blaine brought all the karma and luve for 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:41.080 that and it was just magical. The next day we 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:42.920 were like going to have just a low key beach 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.520 club party and everyone was just in the water going crazy. Partying, 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:47.600 having so much fun. 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:51.240