Speaker 1: This is the most traumatic podcast ever. And iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison here with you, and I'm excited about today's
Speaker 1: show because I'm excited about today's guest coming on the
Speaker 1: show with me today is former Bachelorette Andy Dorschmann. I
Speaker 1: met Andy the first time when she was on the
Speaker 1: show as a contestant with Juan Pablo. I think we
Speaker 1: all know how that went not great. Then she became
Speaker 1: the Bachelorette, was very beloved, it seemingly worked out, then
Speaker 1: didn't on the show, and then she kind of went
Speaker 1: on this journey of kind of this Carrie Bradshaw journey
Speaker 1: of finding love, the ups and downs of living in
Speaker 1: New York, in la and Paris, and she wrote a
Speaker 1: couple of books. But now she has fallen in love,
Speaker 1: found love, and gotten married. But she's kind of disappeared.
Speaker 1: She's kind of fallen off the map, and everybody has
Speaker 1: been asking me, Hey, where's Andy, what's going on? We
Speaker 1: haven't heard from her, and I think she's just been
Speaker 1: outliving her life and being very happy. So I thought,
Speaker 1: let's reach out, and I did, and she was unbelievably
Speaker 1: kind and gracious enough to come join us today on
Speaker 1: the most dramatic podcast ever and joining me now from
Speaker 1: I assume her home somewhere in the south, Andy Dorfman,
Speaker 1: how are you doing it good? Are you good? Where
Speaker 1: do you live now?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Y'all have a home? Like what's your at? What would
Speaker 1: your address say? What would be the city in state?
Speaker 2: Greenville, South Carolina?
Speaker 1: Oh, which I hear is beautiful?
Speaker 2: It is? It is beautiful, It definitely is. It's been
Speaker 2: an adjustment.
Speaker 1: Though, from New York to LA to Greenville, South Carolina.
Speaker 1: It sounds like the makings of a Hallmark movie.
Speaker 2: I know, right, it's like close to Charleston.
Speaker 1: Big city girl moves out to the small city right right.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okai, where's the beach?
Speaker 1: No, okay, all you need to do now is like
Speaker 1: open up a bed and breakfast and like raise goats
Speaker 1: right right?
Speaker 2: Or babies?
Speaker 1: Or babies is like where.
Speaker 2: You go to have babies?
Speaker 1: It's fertile land.
Speaker 2: I live in a town where you go to have kids?
Speaker 1: Is that the goal? Yeah?
Speaker 2: For sure? Not Right now, We're gonna enjoy a little
Speaker 2: bit of it. It's funny. Everyone's like, which is a
Speaker 2: common question? I get it as soon as you get engaged,
Speaker 2: people are like, oh, what are you getting married? As
Speaker 2: soon as you get married, people ask when are you
Speaker 2: having a baby, which is kind of bizarre. I'm like,
Speaker 2: this is a that's pretty personal, but I get it.
Speaker 2: I mean, every wants to know. But we're good. We're
Speaker 2: gonna have like a fun summer. I told Blaby can
Speaker 2: start trying when we take a honeymoon.
Speaker 1: I told my kids, because my kids get annoyed by,
Speaker 1: you know, the question of the moment, And I said,
Speaker 1: here's the thing, you're just have an answer ready because
Speaker 1: people are going to ask you when you're in high school,
Speaker 1: where you're going to college, when you're in college, what's
Speaker 1: your major when? And then it's like where you're working.
Speaker 1: Then it's when are you getting married? And so just
Speaker 1: have an answer ready because my kids are just like real,
Speaker 1: like once you get asked five thousand times. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm sure the baby question post marriage has has
Speaker 1: definitely started to hit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you know what, I've realized, just put
Speaker 2: it off, just t him oh later, not now.
Speaker 1: I also know that you really really want to be
Speaker 1: a mom, and you're going to be an amazing mom
Speaker 1: when and if all that blessing happens totally.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm definitely not getting younger, but I feel
Speaker 2: like we still wanted to have a blowout somewhere like
Speaker 2: Blaine and I. You know, we just got married. We
Speaker 2: haven't been together for decades or anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, honeymoon first decided.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're like, we're going to blow it out this summer.
Speaker 2: We're gonna travel, We're going to like have fun, do
Speaker 2: the things that even though you can do any of kids,
Speaker 2: is not as easy. So we're good. I'm going to
Speaker 2: wait till like the wintertime.
Speaker 1: You've been pretty quiet since marrying Blaine, who I had
Speaker 1: the pleasure of meeting gosh, I don't know when. When
Speaker 1: was the super Bowl party when we ran into you eyes?
Speaker 1: It was so great because I had not met him yet,
Speaker 1: and I think he's the definition of tall, dark and handsome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pretty easy on that.
Speaker 1: He is pretty easy on the eyes. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to get jealous. There's nothing between us.
Speaker 1: But he's a handsome guy.
Speaker 2: He's pretty easy on the eyes. Yeah, that was super
Speaker 2: Bowl probably two years ago, a couple of years ago. La.
Speaker 2: I don't think we were engaged yet either.
Speaker 1: No, you weren't y'all just you just kind of gotten
Speaker 1: serious and really just I think had essentially gone public
Speaker 1: and we've ran into you guys and had a chance
Speaker 1: to talk and have since, you know, seen him a
Speaker 1: couple of times, and it just I loved and I
Speaker 1: texted you right afterwards. I said, I just love the
Speaker 1: smile on your face. You look so happy. What is
Speaker 1: it about you, guys? What is it about him that
Speaker 1: made you so happy?
Speaker 2: He's the best? I mean, you met him, like everyone
Speaker 2: that meets my is like, he's just the best. He's easy,
Speaker 2: he's cool, he's got like swag, he's funny, he's kind
Speaker 2: like he's a boys boy for sure, like he is
Speaker 2: a bro, but he's like a softie and he's sweet
Speaker 2: and like it's funny because he's literally my best friend,
Speaker 2: which is good because I don't have a ton of
Speaker 2: friends here, you know, so it's nice to have like
Speaker 2: a built in best friend that you live with. And
Speaker 2: I used to always think that was so weird when
Speaker 2: like women and men would say that, because it's like, what,
Speaker 2: I've always been a girl's girl, so all my best
Speaker 2: friends have always been female. So I always thought that
Speaker 2: was just kind of weird, But now that I have him,
Speaker 2: it's like, this is truly like not only my partner,
Speaker 2: he's my friend, he's my lover, he's my confidant, just
Speaker 2: kind of everything. And I mean you can probably relate
Speaker 2: to that with Lauren. It's like when you find that person,
Speaker 2: they just kind of it's all of it. There's no
Speaker 2: one thing that you pick out and you're like, this
Speaker 2: is what I like most about him? It just it
Speaker 2: all in totality works, it's all fun. It's your partner,
Speaker 2: you know, like he's my partner for life, no doubt
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: What's funny you say that because you and I had
Speaker 1: kind of similar paths and we talked a lot about
Speaker 1: this love and finding love. And I'm not going to
Speaker 1: say you and I were skeptical, but probably we both
Speaker 1: had a heart that because we both had been dating
Speaker 1: and going through things, and you and I would share
Speaker 1: when we would run into each other, and it did
Speaker 1: seem like finding a unicorn of like how is are
Speaker 1: people really in love? Are people really finding their best friends?
Speaker 1: Does this really exist? And so when you do see
Speaker 1: that and you recognize it, it almost seems so obvious, like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was there. I just needed to find it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the aha, You're like, Aha, this is
Speaker 2: who I was always supposed to be with. And you know,
Speaker 2: I think some of that is helpful with age and maturity,
Speaker 2: where you start to just realize that, hey, like this,
Speaker 2: I can have love with my best friend. It doesn't
Speaker 2: have to be dramatic and crazy, and you know, it
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be these games like it actually makes
Speaker 2: it so much more fun when you find the right
Speaker 2: person to just be with and not have to deal
Speaker 2: with all that stuff. But that comes, at least for me,
Speaker 2: with a lot of maturity for sure, and experiences.
Speaker 1: And you know, because you were so experienced in this
Speaker 1: world when you met him, how protective of you were
Speaker 1: you and how careful were you to kind of baby
Speaker 1: this thing along publicly because that's a big thing, and
Speaker 1: how to foster that and prepare him for what you
Speaker 1: were probably going to go through because y'all remain private
Speaker 1: for a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean we met summer, like in August,
Speaker 2: and I think I remember him coming for Thanksgiving that
Speaker 2: November with my family, and I feel like we didn't
Speaker 2: go public till like January. I should remember for a fact,
Speaker 2: because it was Casey Hawsmer's wedding January we went public.
Speaker 2: I think for me, I wasn't worried about anything with Blaine,
Speaker 2: Like I wasn't worried about Blaine's past. I wasn't worried
Speaker 2: about how he reacts, Like he's such a good guy
Speaker 2: that none of that worried me. I just worried about
Speaker 2: like people comparing and they still do, which is so
Speaker 2: ironic to me. Like to this day, I'll post stuff
Speaker 2: on Instagram and people will be like, oh, so glad
Speaker 2: you'd end up with Juan Pablo or so like you're
Speaker 2: writing another man's name like on my wall. Well, my
Speaker 2: husband is in the photo. So it was more of
Speaker 2: and it's not that big of a deal. It's just
Speaker 2: little things like that that I don't want him to
Speaker 2: like have his feelings hurt, and I don't want his
Speaker 2: name to have to be in the same sentence as
Speaker 2: you know, someone from the show's name. So I feel
Speaker 2: like it was more protection of that with him and
Speaker 2: less about like people getting to know him and see
Speaker 2: him and end up loving him like I do.
Speaker 1: God, you just mentioned one, but I totally forget and
Speaker 1: you were even on one Poplo season. It's such a
Speaker 1: distant memory and so much has happened since.
Speaker 2: There's some good old days though. Back then we had fun,
Speaker 2: Like remember we were traveling, like from his season in
Speaker 2: my season, I feel like we had so much fun.
Speaker 1: Well back then too, the show was you know, the
Speaker 1: show had money. It was good. We actually traveled to
Speaker 1: resorts like that you would want to stay at. It
Speaker 1: was I mean it was really there was these destinations
Speaker 1: and then you know when all the budgets changed and
Speaker 1: all that, and you're staying in a motel six, you know,
Speaker 1: on the backside of town. It was like and we're
Speaker 1: trying to paint this beautiful picture. But yeah, and I
Speaker 1: look back too at that group of women. I looked
Speaker 1: at a picture the other day. It was a group date.
Speaker 1: Were we in New Zealand? I forget where we were.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was Vietnam. I don't know it was Vietnam
Speaker 1: because right, yeah, and the picture I was like, looking
Speaker 1: at who was in your group? I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: that was like a great group of women.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all star cast for sure. I think, like, and
Speaker 2: we were so in it for like, I don't want
Speaker 2: to say the right reasons, like we were there. We
Speaker 2: all like experienced it so much, and I remember like
Speaker 2: the social media was nothing back then, like everything was private.
Speaker 2: You were like okay, cool, Like I probably had ten
Speaker 2: followers before I even got on the show. And now
Speaker 2: obviously that's changed it for better and worse. But I
Speaker 2: just remember like we had so much fun, and like
Speaker 2: I look back on the experiences that we had, they
Speaker 2: were just like so authentic and cool and it was great,
Speaker 2: Like it was a great time for me.
Speaker 1: Do you think what's changed is And maybe I've never
Speaker 1: thought about what you just said, but I think you
Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head when people talk about
Speaker 1: who was coming on the show and why back then,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't like back of the day. I mean,
Speaker 1: the show had been on for a while, but I
Speaker 1: felt like you guys, you ladies, and most of the
Speaker 1: guys came on genuinely, and then what happened after that
Speaker 1: you took advantage of and instead of now, I feel
Speaker 1: like people were coming on to take advantage of it,
Speaker 1: and no one was really leaning into the show and
Speaker 1: enjoy you know, like, well let's just see what happens,
Speaker 1: Let's enjoy the travel, let's enjoy the process. Going to
Speaker 1: meet some girls, you know, may fall in love whatever,
Speaker 1: but then afterwards, well I'll take this residual bounce and
Speaker 1: you know, better my life or whatever. But it definitely
Speaker 1: started that group. It was just genuine everybody was having fun.
Speaker 1: It was a blast. It was just a lot more fun.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's one of the last seasons where
Speaker 2: it was that authentic and real. Crystal is like, I
Speaker 2: feel like his season because he was right after me
Speaker 2: Bachelor obviously his girls. I feel like we're the first
Speaker 2: to kind of start that social and it still came
Speaker 2: after for them. It wasn't so much of going on.
Speaker 2: But back in our day, it was like you went
Speaker 2: on and some people's motive was just to be the
Speaker 2: villain and like so no reason, you got nothing out
Speaker 2: of it. Like that was like that was the not
Speaker 2: there for the right reasons. Now it's social media. It's
Speaker 2: all this ads, gigs, all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely changed, but yeah, it's just funny you
Speaker 1: mentioned I totally for I just maybe I just blocked
Speaker 1: that whole season out traumatic syndrome, right.
Speaker 2: God we got through it though.
Speaker 1: But then you became the Bachelorette, which was a you know,
Speaker 1: for for us anyway a popular decision because I was
Speaker 1: so excited to get to hang with you, because you
Speaker 1: were just so easy. I'm like, well, this is simple. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like you're the least needy person I think I ever
Speaker 1: did the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was there. If you gave me some wine,
Speaker 2: I was good food and wine. I was happy, will.
Speaker 1: Work for food and wine. That has not changed, by
Speaker 1: the way. But what when you look back, do you
Speaker 1: look back with fondness on that experience, on all of it,
Speaker 1: or is there a part of you that wishes I
Speaker 1: kind of wish that wasn't even part of my story anymore.
Speaker 2: I think it's a mix. It's definitely not. I never
Speaker 2: wish it wasn't a part of my story because I'm very,
Speaker 2: very fortunate from the show of like what I get
Speaker 2: to do and where I get to be and the
Speaker 2: things I've done, the people I've met. And I've always
Speaker 2: said that, like it was a life changing thing for me.
Speaker 2: I mean completely. I was twenty seven, twenty eight years old.
Speaker 2: I thought I was going to be a lawyer for
Speaker 2: my life, and you know, next thing you know, I'm
Speaker 2: like going to Paris and living in New York and
Speaker 2: doing like incredible things so it's just it just changed
Speaker 2: my life. It wasn't so much of like, oh it
Speaker 2: made it so much better. I wish I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: done it. It just it changed my life. And there's
Speaker 2: really no reason to kind of, you know, dissect it
Speaker 2: and say was it good or bad, because it was
Speaker 2: it hastened here. I am. Yeah, it just was. And
Speaker 2: I think it took me a while to kind of
Speaker 2: accept that, to be honest. There were things that, of
Speaker 2: course I wish had never happened on the show, as
Speaker 2: everyone does, you know. There were things that I felt
Speaker 2: like a little humiliated about, especially like the live show after,
Speaker 2: Like that was really tough for me. Now I'm thirty
Speaker 2: six years old and I'd be like, who gives it?
Speaker 2: You know, I don't care. But back then there was
Speaker 2: seven twenty eight. It was super impactful. So I look
Speaker 2: back on it with the impact that it had in
Speaker 2: different ways, but not necessarily as like, oh it was amazing.
Speaker 2: It was amazing, not necessarily as like oh it was
Speaker 2: like the best thing in my life or the worst
Speaker 2: thing in my life.
Speaker 1: It just was well all things, you know, when I
Speaker 1: used to describe the job, because people go you know,
Speaker 1: would say, oh, my god, you have the most amazing job.
Speaker 1: You travel around the world. It's the same thing. All
Speaker 1: things can be true, multiple things can be true at
Speaker 1: the same time. It can be a great experience. You
Speaker 1: can remember it fondly. It's not all It wasn't all great,
Speaker 1: you know, same thing with my job. It's like there
Speaker 1: were a lot of things that sucked about it. There
Speaker 1: were a lot of things that were amazing about it.
Speaker 1: I look back on it with great fondness and good memories.
Speaker 1: Where there are things I would change absolutely, but that's life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you're right, just a part of your life too,
Speaker 2: It's not it's not my whole life. That's the other
Speaker 2: thing is like, I don't identify the show my whole life.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't really work in it as much anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't like it's just it was a part of
Speaker 2: my life. But my life is a lot bigger than
Speaker 2: just the show.
Speaker 1: But you've made that decision, and you know, I think
Speaker 1: that is what I always tried to tell Bachelor's bacheorettes.
Speaker 1: I mean, Ben Higgins and I had this kind of
Speaker 1: famous conversation he always talks about where I said, take
Speaker 1: this and let it enhance your life. Don't let it
Speaker 1: become your life and change everything about you. And some
Speaker 1: people do get swallowed up by it. You've seen it,
Speaker 1: and you know it's it's unfortunate. It's like the you know,
Speaker 1: move for move to La and let it take over
Speaker 1: your life, and you you quickly realize that that is
Speaker 1: a fleeting flame and it goes out quickly, and then
Speaker 1: you you're kind of chasing and chasing. And so those
Speaker 1: that get engulfed by it, you do see it, and
Speaker 1: you did a good job of just the outskirts of
Speaker 1: that and then maintaining your own existence, which was important.
Speaker 2: Well for me. It's also a short term fix. You know,
Speaker 2: we don't know how long the show is going to go.
Speaker 2: But if you're if your entire world is Bachelor Nation,
Speaker 2: like what happens when it's done right? Like right, yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, So what happens. And I think me personally,
Speaker 2: I always like I never wanted to rely on it,
Speaker 2: especially in a financial aspect like that. So it was
Speaker 2: like I needed to do other things, whether I was
Speaker 2: writing the book, whether it was like just doing other
Speaker 2: things that you know, pulled from Bachelor Nation for sure,
Speaker 2: but like also like I need a whole life, full life.
Speaker 1: Are you so happy that? I mean, you probably would
Speaker 1: have fallen in love with Blaine anyway, but the fact
Speaker 1: that he's just such a regular guy away away from
Speaker 1: all of this, was that a little bit attractive to you? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean, to be honest, in hindsight, I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's really my type, like the guy
Speaker 2: that goes onto a reality TV show. Like again, like
Speaker 2: in hindsight, I'm like, that's probably not the person I
Speaker 2: was going to end up with. You know, I need
Speaker 2: someone like career driven oriented all that stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's nice to just have like a solid guy that
Speaker 2: is not doesn't care. I mean the only thing that
Speaker 2: he watches on TV is sports, Like there's nothing else TV.
Speaker 2: He's such a dude.
Speaker 1: Is he a Georgia Is he a Georgia Bulldogs fan?
Speaker 2: No, It's He's funny because you know, he played college baseball.
Speaker 2: This is how big of a Broie is, Like, he
Speaker 2: played college baseball, and so he's like, yeah, it's just athletes,
Speaker 2: just sports. Like when I took him to Casey's wedding,
Speaker 2: who married? Uh he was playing with the Padres at
Speaker 2: that point. I'm like, what islay going to think, like
Speaker 2: the entire team's going to be here, and he was like,
Speaker 2: oh cool, what's up. Like he's just a guy, so
Speaker 2: he's not really like he doesn't fallen over sports. I'd
Speaker 2: say he probably likes basketball, but like Georgia football, it's
Speaker 2: not his team. It's not my team either, never was.
Speaker 2: But Tiger an l girl. Yeah, Lsu and Waite.
Speaker 1: You guys get engaged and you decide you're going to
Speaker 1: get married in Italy. That was that was that because
Speaker 1: I was one of your first dates, or not dates,
Speaker 1: but big trips together. You're like, we're going to come
Speaker 1: back here and get married.
Speaker 2: We met there. We met in Positano, so I had
Speaker 2: met him one time back in college. I got a party.
Speaker 2: Never talked in like fifteen years, like we weren't friend,
Speaker 2: we didn't communicate or anything. And then he was in
Speaker 2: Italy when I was there, we met up and it
Speaker 2: was like, okay, when we've gone engaged. Were that was
Speaker 2: the whole Like we didn't even look at anywhere else. Actually,
Speaker 2: now that I think about it, it was more aware
Speaker 2: in Italy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so tell tell me about this magical wedding.
Speaker 2: I Oh, it was so fun. It was great it was.
Speaker 2: We did three days. It was small, which was perfect.
Speaker 2: I was like, I do not want to be walking
Speaker 2: down the aisle with three hundred people, nothing like that.
Speaker 2: It was very like small, intimate. It was great. It
Speaker 2: was in Italy. Like we had a little bit of
Speaker 2: a rain scare, which was really really interesting because it
Speaker 2: was going to rain on our wedding day and we
Speaker 2: were boating everybody down the Malfy coast for the actual
Speaker 2: ceremony at this beach club that we love, and then
Speaker 2: we're boating them back. So the day before we're like
Speaker 2: looking at villas to try and move everything indoor. We
Speaker 2: were looking at the weather super stressed, and Blade and
Speaker 2: I were just like, screw it. We haven't, you know,
Speaker 2: made it this far. We're going for it, and the
Speaker 2: sky's kind of opened. It rained everywhere except Sorrento on
Speaker 2: our wedding day. It was the wildest thing. It was
Speaker 2: just perfect and like, that's good luck for Blaine. I
Speaker 2: feel like Blaine brought all the karma and luve for
Speaker 2: that and it was just magical. The next day we
Speaker 2: were like going to have just a low key beach
Speaker 2: club party and everyone was just in the water going crazy. Partying,
Speaker 2: having so much fun.
Speaker 1: Little drama with the dress though, Oh god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just I feel like there's got to be some
Speaker 2: sort of drama going to be something. Mine was the
Speaker 2: dress that we worked it out.
Speaker 1: It was fine, was it? Every day?
Speaker 2: Wedding dresses are hard.
Speaker 1: They are hard because it's funny to pin so much
Speaker 1: on a piece of clothing. It's like, this piece of
Speaker 1: clothing needs to encapsulate emotion and feeling and fit as
Speaker 1: well and be comfortable and beautiful and all the things.
Speaker 1: It's hard to put that much pressure on a dress.
Speaker 2: I just put the pressure on the other dresses. I
Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I don't even care. I
Speaker 2: had such fun other dresses that I loved, like the
Speaker 2: rehearsal dinner and the after party and stuff like that
Speaker 2: I was like, these are my fun moments. Those are
Speaker 2: the ones hanging in my closet. Still.
Speaker 1: Were you a multiple wardrobe changer that day?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I did three that day. I wanted to
Speaker 2: do four, but there wasn't enough time. I was in
Speaker 2: it for the dresses. I would have been fine, like
Speaker 2: doing just a quiet ceremony somewhere. I didn't care. Blaine
Speaker 2: wanted a wedding. I wanted to give it to him.
Speaker 2: In hindsight, of course, I loved that we did it.
Speaker 2: But no, I got married for Blaine. I had the
Speaker 2: wedding for the dresses.
Speaker 1: Any wedding advice for.
Speaker 2: Me, hmmm, take lots of pictures, don't do it. Take
Speaker 2: pictures of just the two of you, a lot of
Speaker 2: pictures of the two of you. Also, we didn't spend
Speaker 2: the night the night before, and I loved that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's funny. We've talked about that, we've already.
Speaker 2: It was cool.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm actually in this. You're not going to be shocked,
Speaker 1: but it's a golf thing. But there's something the week
Speaker 1: of and I'm actually I was debating. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't leave. I shouldn't leave because there's going to
Speaker 1: be stuff to do. And I say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I am going to leave, like we're going to be
Speaker 1: a part for several days leading up to it. And
Speaker 1: then you know, I was debating on the night before,
Speaker 1: and I think that's a good idea. I think I'm
Speaker 1: going to take that advice. It was just cool.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, plain and I lived together like that
Speaker 2: wasn't big deal. But I remember after our rehearsal dinner,
Speaker 2: he came to our hotel room we were still sharing
Speaker 2: at that time. We popped a bottle of wine. We
Speaker 2: actually stayed on our balcony because it was so beautiful.
Speaker 2: To two am. We would but the night before our
Speaker 2: just the two of us, and it was so cool.
Speaker 2: And then he went to his room and I didn't
Speaker 2: see huntil the next day, and it was just like
Speaker 2: that anticipation. It made what sometimes becomes like mundane and
Speaker 2: the daily life really exciting for us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something about waking up together on your wedding
Speaker 1: day and kind of then heading off. It makes it
Speaker 1: does It makes it kind of normal and you want
Speaker 1: it to be special. That's good. That's good advice. I'm
Speaker 1: going to take that. I will. I'm gonna going to
Speaker 1: go find my own hall or closet to sleep in.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Blaine went from this huge suite.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Yeah. I wouldn't get asked who kept the
Speaker 1: sweet I assume that's uh. What else? What else about you?
Speaker 1: What the pictures? I like the separation. Did you guys
Speaker 1: honeymoon after or your wedding was a honeymoon?
Speaker 2: Mini moon?
Speaker 3: We just went to Coppery after, yeah, which is obviously,
Speaker 3: you know, just a faery ride over, which was great
Speaker 3: because we got to just chill and like look at
Speaker 3: pictures and like share stories of what happened.
Speaker 2: It was. That was really fun.
Speaker 1: And life after when we'll see when did you get
Speaker 1: It's only been what two months? As I say, it's
Speaker 1: been a few months since you guys got married.
Speaker 2: When did I get married? Oh?
Speaker 1: God, when is your anniversary?
Speaker 2: Two months?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's been been a couple of months. You
Speaker 1: guys have settled in Greenville, South Carolina.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: How was that decision? Were you? Was that always part
Speaker 1: of the plan to leave the city, And.
Speaker 2: I mean it wasn't ever part of the plan until
Speaker 2: I met Blaine. You know, I was in We were
Speaker 2: engaged when I was still living in La Granted we
Speaker 2: were seeing each other every other week every week sometimes
Speaker 2: like we did.
Speaker 1: Because it was a long distance for a bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for I mean a year and a half.
Speaker 1: I guess that's not easy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a year, year and a half somewhere around there,
Speaker 2: lots of sky miles, for sure. But we made it work.
Speaker 2: I Mean, the thing is is Blaine is here, like
Speaker 2: his work is here. He works in real estate here,
Speaker 2: and so there was never an option of like him
Speaker 2: coming to California at this time. Yeah, at the time
Speaker 2: we got engaged, So it was pretty like easy in
Speaker 2: terms of I'll say this, it was really hard for
Speaker 2: me to leave California and leave my life, but it
Speaker 2: was a no brainer because I needed to be with Blade.
Speaker 1: Yeah. If that might get that, No, it makes one
Speaker 1: hundred percent sense. Yeah, if you had your drothers, you
Speaker 1: would stay, but you knew you weren't missing out on this,
Speaker 1: not on your person.
Speaker 2: That was the easy part was choosing Blade, no doubt.
Speaker 1: If there was anybody ever equipped though to be a
Speaker 1: country girl, it's not a big leap for you.
Speaker 2: No, And I'm from Georgia. My parents lived two and
Speaker 2: a half hours away, like I grew up. It's funny.
Speaker 2: I used to drive through Greenville when I was at
Speaker 2: Wake Forest when I drove home to Atlanta, and I'd
Speaker 2: always be like, what's that place? I literally remember seeing
Speaker 2: it on the sign all the time. And now I'm like, oh, okay.
Speaker 1: Oh it's home now. Yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 2: I mean it's I think you're right. People think New York, LA.
Speaker 2: But I grew up in Georgia. I went to school
Speaker 2: in Louisiana. You know, I learned how to noodle catfish
Speaker 2: in Louisiana. Ford's sake, I can do it.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that many of our bachelors or bach threads
Speaker 1: I have ever noodled.
Speaker 2: Before, No, no doubt.
Speaker 1: What is life like then in Greenville, South Carolina? What's
Speaker 1: life on the daily for you? What are you up to?
Speaker 2: It's easy, I will say. My favorite thing about living
Speaker 2: here is like it's easy. You know, you don't realize
Speaker 2: kind of until you come here. Just the DMV is easy.
Speaker 2: People like hold the door open for you and you
Speaker 2: have like bags. The quality of life is great. We're
Speaker 2: building a house, so that part that has been taken
Speaker 2: up a lot of stuff for me right now, between
Speaker 2: that and then writing the third book that's going to happen.
Speaker 2: Which is funny because I say I'm writing again. I
Speaker 2: never really stopped. I've always journaled stuff, but now I'm
Speaker 2: just putting all the pieces together there, which is a total,
Speaker 2: like mind blowing experience to have. I have seven years
Speaker 2: worth of stuff.
Speaker 1: Now it's correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm an idiot,
Speaker 1: if I am. This is book three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, book number three.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so the first two books, and you and
Speaker 1: I have talked a lot about this because we kind
Speaker 1: of lived through those first two books in your life
Speaker 1: and those experiences, and they were more of, for lack
Speaker 1: of a better way to sum it up, that Carrie Bradshaw,
Speaker 1: she singles She's taking on the world, and that's kind
Speaker 1: of what you thought book three was going to be about.
Speaker 1: So book three has probably changed exponentially.
Speaker 2: Exponentially and people keep asking like, oh, where's book three?
Speaker 2: Where's book three? And I've been writing it, but it
Speaker 2: never had like a full picture. And it's also really
Speaker 2: interesting and you can probably relate to this is you
Speaker 2: go back and read what you've written and you're like, wow,
Speaker 2: I was really in a certain time of place in
Speaker 2: my life right then, and it's still going to be
Speaker 2: included in everything, but you see it differently when you're
Speaker 2: just away from it for a while.
Speaker 1: That's good, though. I was gonna ask, will you go
Speaker 1: back and quote unquote cool it up, you know, like, oh,
Speaker 1: that seems silly now or that's immature now, but that
Speaker 1: is where you were, and it's like you got to
Speaker 1: give yourself the grace of who you were back then
Speaker 1: that's okay. It's okay to have been that person, and
Speaker 1: you know, don't explain who you were in the past.
Speaker 1: It's all right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'll definitely leave that a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: in there, because there's a ton of stuff too. I mean,
Speaker 2: I went through the ringer, like, you know, because we
Speaker 2: are super close in that sensement, I'm not public about
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff you know that is negative necessarily,
Speaker 2: So like when I went through a rough patch in
Speaker 2: New York, I never was the person to share it online.
Speaker 2: I just was writing about it.
Speaker 1: Obviously. I think one of the things you and I
Speaker 1: had discussed about book three, and maybe not writer's block,
Speaker 1: but the block of the whole book, was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: where's this going? Is this the fairy tale ending? Is
Speaker 1: this the culmination you Blaine, Greenville, South Carolina, the dream wedding?
Speaker 1: Is is this the kind of the perfect finish that
Speaker 1: you never could have probably even dreamed of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. But like it's definitely not a love
Speaker 2: story in that sense. Like I don't want it to
Speaker 2: be all about the ending because that's not the important
Speaker 2: part of it for me. I think the journey of
Speaker 2: getting there is even more important and everyone's ending is
Speaker 2: going to look different anyways. Yes, it's a fairy tale
Speaker 2: ending for me, but it's also like, hey, here's the surprise.
Speaker 2: You know, I got married, So like we can get
Speaker 2: that out of the way and talk about how we
Speaker 2: actually got to this point. I think that's more important,
Speaker 2: especially for me, also in keeping a lot of that
Speaker 2: independence that I had and still have to be honest,
Speaker 2: but the independence is how I got to Blaine, and
Speaker 2: so that part has always been important to me. So
Speaker 2: the story is much more than just the ending. But
Speaker 2: the ending to me has made me see things differently
Speaker 2: and just in a fuller picture.
Speaker 1: Well, it's what you were known for. It's what people
Speaker 1: resonated or what resonated with people about the books was
Speaker 1: your journey, and you weren't afraid of the mess, and
Speaker 1: you weren't afraid of leaning into it and being silly
Speaker 1: and being vulnerable and all those things. And it wasn't
Speaker 1: always perfect, and I think that's what people needed to see.
Speaker 1: But I love the fact that all that mess, all
Speaker 1: the craziness, the good decisions, the bad decisions, led to
Speaker 1: this and there is a landing for everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I hope it's like hopeful for people too.
Speaker 2: You know, I got married at thirty six years old, like,
Speaker 2: and it's some people will say, oh, you're you know,
Speaker 2: so young, people say oh gosh, But the point is,
Speaker 2: like it's not. It wasn't always a fairy tale for me.
Speaker 2: And I always tell people, you know, my friends that
Speaker 2: go through breakups, even people from Bachelor Nation like will
Speaker 2: reach out to me like with breakup stuff, and I'm like, listen,
Speaker 2: like I get it. I've been there, done it. I
Speaker 2: might not have shared everything, but like I know how
Speaker 2: you feel. You're okay to feel this way. I promise you,
Speaker 2: like it will work out one way or another. You
Speaker 2: will get over this. But like I've been there, I
Speaker 2: get it, and I don't ever want to neglect that
Speaker 2: or deny that by just like making this perfect love story.
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing is you get wrapped up in
Speaker 1: your own happiness and it's like everything else fades away
Speaker 1: and everything's all glowy and happy, and that people are
Speaker 1: out there like no, it's not always perfect, and it's
Speaker 1: and it's again, multiple things can be true at the
Speaker 1: same time.
Speaker 2: Love.
Speaker 1: Love can be an amazing thing, it can suck at times.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, and the and the in betweens and all
Speaker 1: the grind and all that is the good stuff that
Speaker 1: you know. And this too shall pass. Just remember that
Speaker 1: no matter what, this too sh'll pass. What else? What
Speaker 1: else have you and I not talked about in forever?
Speaker 2: I feel like we had a lot. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's amazing to me to see you like this.
Speaker 2: Why I'm grown ten years now?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 1: Is that how long we've known each other?
Speaker 2: Ten years? I think it's going to be ten coming
Speaker 2: up on ten years for me for the show. Yeah,
Speaker 2: which means definitely because Mom Paula would have been the
Speaker 2: year before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so over a decade I've known you and it
Speaker 1: never ex actually.
Speaker 2: To be married living in South Carolina.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that sounds about right to me. That sounds
Speaker 1: about right. I don't see you living in New York
Speaker 1: and LA. I always thought those were placeholders for you
Speaker 1: and true you just just because I always saw that
Speaker 1: other side of you that is so, you know, because
Speaker 1: your family, your mom, your dad, and you're just your
Speaker 1: family is is that they are such down home people.
Speaker 1: I think there's just such a big part of that
Speaker 1: in you. I was like, it does make good sense
Speaker 1: to me that you're in I don't know if Greenville,
Speaker 1: South Carolina was the answer, but I definitely sell you
Speaker 1: going back to your roots, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: It's funny because I feel more home here, which is
Speaker 2: so crazy because I miss La and I miss New York,
Speaker 2: but I also just miss my friends there. But I
Speaker 2: feel like, Okay, I'm a home here. That's taken me
Speaker 2: a lot to like understand because obviously I see my
Speaker 2: friends and I see you know, people from Bachelor and
Speaker 2: on Instagram like living this life that I kind of
Speaker 2: used to live, and I'm like, oh, what am I doing?
Speaker 2: But then I just have to realize, like internally how
Speaker 2: I feel, not externally when I open up social media,
Speaker 2: but like internally on a daily basis, like I feel
Speaker 2: happy inside. I feel home. I feel like Lade and
Speaker 2: I have built a home and like that's the stuff
Speaker 2: that really matters. But I've really had to practice that
Speaker 2: to be honest. Is like understanding that.
Speaker 1: Lord and I left and we now live in Texas,
Speaker 1: which you know, as you know, I was always coming
Speaker 1: home to Texas as well, and now I love the
Speaker 1: lifestyle and I love just the way of life and
Speaker 1: how simple, like you said, it's just good people who
Speaker 1: live their life and immediately there are the things that
Speaker 1: you won't be going to because they're just in LA
Speaker 1: or New York or whatever. Do you miss those moments,
Speaker 1: some of those events or are you kind of like me,
Speaker 1: where the further I've gotten away from them, the more
Speaker 1: relief I am that I'm not going.
Speaker 2: I think for me, it's like that whole you know,
Speaker 2: you don't feel invited or popular enough, and that's just
Speaker 2: a thing with social media. I don't I don't care
Speaker 2: how popular are. I think everyone feels that way in
Speaker 2: some extent, whether it's like, oh yeah, so I definitely
Speaker 2: feel that fomo. I mean, I'm not invited to as
Speaker 2: many events. You know, I live in Greenville as I
Speaker 2: was in New York and LA. So that adjustment has
Speaker 2: kind of been like, Okay, I need to set my
Speaker 2: ego aside and not feel like, oh I'm not invited
Speaker 2: to something. I just don't live there anymore. And so
Speaker 2: to me, I think it's been a segue of like,
Speaker 2: maybe this is my new kind of life and that's okay.
Speaker 2: I did all that in the past and I had
Speaker 2: fun and it was great, but like you know, I
Speaker 2: wake up every day and I have a loving husband,
Speaker 2: and like, I have a great life and I'm happy,
Speaker 2: and I have to just like I kind of have
Speaker 2: to just really be okay with that, and that shouldn't be.
Speaker 1: You have to remind yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was single going all those events.
Speaker 2: I probably wasn't very happy anyways, So like, what does
Speaker 2: it matter just because I got to go an event?
Speaker 1: Right? You know? No, those A lot of those events
Speaker 1: are so empty when you're there and everybody's just looking
Speaker 1: over their shoulder to who else is in the room,
Speaker 1: who can I talk to? And a bunch of social.
Speaker 2: Climbers never really mean it. I was never really good
Speaker 2: at that anyways, to be honest, Like, I just was
Speaker 2: never good at kind of that networking, you know, budding
Speaker 2: up to. Yeah, it wasn't great at it.
Speaker 1: Well, this looks good on you. Thanks, This looks really
Speaker 1: good on you. It fits perfect. Thanks, and I appreciate
Speaker 1: you taking the time to come on. I know you
Speaker 1: were a little worried that this could have gone sideways,
Speaker 1: but it did not.
Speaker 2: Well the most dramatic I'm like, shit, I'm not really
Speaker 2: that traumatic.
Speaker 1: It's kind of the title is kind of tongue in cheek.
Speaker 1: It's honestly with you. It was it was more of
Speaker 1: people had reached out because I you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of people will give us topics and people that they
Speaker 1: want to hear from, and like Colton and the fence
Speaker 1: jump and all these things. And people kept asking, where's
Speaker 1: Andy Dorfmann? Where is she? I know, I know it's
Speaker 1: not Andy Dorfman anymore, but you've kept Dorfmann, didn't change
Speaker 1: the name.
Speaker 2: I'm going to change him. I'm waiting until we move
Speaker 2: because I'm not.
Speaker 1: You are going to change your name? Yeah, Andy Hart.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a better pen name anyway.
Speaker 2: I don't have to say, isn't David O? R EPs
Speaker 2: and Frank Emma's in mary A n anymore? I'm good.
Speaker 1: Lauren's not changing your name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a good last name.
Speaker 1: Now, Seema, I know I kind of want to change
Speaker 1: my name to Zema. Is that weird? Has they never
Speaker 1: done that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: My initials c Z. That's great.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's for you. No, okay, no offense
Speaker 2: to the guys out there, but I don't think that's
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, she's like, I'm not changing my name,
Speaker 1: is it? That's fine? I totally get it. Lauren Lauren
Speaker 1: Harrison as opposed to Lauren Zima. It's a good name.
Speaker 1: It's it's good.
Speaker 2: I think she just picked the best last name and
Speaker 2: either keep.
Speaker 1: It or take That's a good idea. Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 1: screw tradition, go with what looks best and what sounds best. Well,
Speaker 1: Andy Hart is a good one. I love that, and
Speaker 1: I love you and appreciate your friendship. You've always been amazing.
Speaker 1: And everyone reached out and said, where is Andy, what's
Speaker 1: going on? I said, I don't know. I'm going to
Speaker 1: call her and let's let's talk, and you were like, yeah, sure.
Speaker 1: So thanks for coming, thanks for coming out of hiding.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the proof of life palls check complete, send
Speaker 1: me a courier pigeon if you need help in Greenville,
Speaker 1: South Carolina. Thank you, Thank you all right, Andy, take
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