1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: This is the most traumatic podcast ever. And iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison here with you, and I'm excited about today's 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: show because I'm excited about today's guest coming on the 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: show with me today is former Bachelorette Andy Dorschmann. I 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: met Andy the first time when she was on the 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: show as a contestant with Juan Pablo. I think we 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: all know how that went not great. Then she became 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: the Bachelorette, was very beloved, it seemingly worked out, then 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: didn't on the show, and then she kind of went 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: on this journey of kind of this Carrie Bradshaw journey 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: of finding love, the ups and downs of living in 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: New York, in la and Paris, and she wrote a 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: couple of books. But now she has fallen in love, 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: found love, and gotten married. But she's kind of disappeared. 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: She's kind of fallen off the map, and everybody has 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: been asking me, Hey, where's Andy, what's going on? We 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: haven't heard from her, and I think she's just been 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: outliving her life and being very happy. So I thought, 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: let's reach out, and I did, and she was unbelievably 20 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: kind and gracious enough to come join us today on 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: the most dramatic podcast ever and joining me now from 22 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: I assume her home somewhere in the south, Andy Dorfman, 23 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: how are you doing it good? Are you good? Where 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: do you live now? 25 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. 26 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: Y'all have a home? Like what's your at? What would 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: your address say? What would be the city in state? 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: Greenville, South Carolina? 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: Oh, which I hear is beautiful? 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: It is? It is beautiful, It definitely is. It's been 31 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: an adjustment. 32 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: Though, from New York to LA to Greenville, South Carolina. 33 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: It sounds like the makings of a Hallmark movie. 34 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: I know, right, it's like close to Charleston. 35 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: Big city girl moves out to the small city right right. 36 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, Okai, where's the beach? 37 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: No, okay, all you need to do now is like 38 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: open up a bed and breakfast and like raise goats 39 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: right right? 40 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 2: Or babies? 41 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: Or babies is like where. 42 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: You go to have babies? 43 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: It's fertile land. 44 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: I live in a town where you go to have kids? 45 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: Is that the goal? Yeah? 46 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: For sure? Not Right now, We're gonna enjoy a little 47 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: bit of it. It's funny. Everyone's like, which is a 48 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: common question? I get it as soon as you get engaged, 49 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: people are like, oh, what are you getting married? As 50 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: soon as you get married, people ask when are you 51 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: having a baby, which is kind of bizarre. I'm like, 52 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: this is a that's pretty personal, but I get it. 53 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: I mean, every wants to know. But we're good. We're 54 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: gonna have like a fun summer. I told Blaby can 55 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: start trying when we take a honeymoon. 56 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: I told my kids, because my kids get annoyed by, 57 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, the question of the moment, And I said, 58 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: here's the thing, you're just have an answer ready because 59 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: people are going to ask you when you're in high school, 60 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 1: where you're going to college, when you're in college, what's 61 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: your major when? And then it's like where you're working. 62 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: Then it's when are you getting married? And so just 63 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: have an answer ready because my kids are just like real, 64 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: like once you get asked five thousand times. But yeah, 65 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 1: so I'm sure the baby question post marriage has has 66 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: definitely started to hit. 67 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you know what, I've realized, just put 68 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: it off, just t him oh later, not now. 69 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: I also know that you really really want to be 70 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: a mom, and you're going to be an amazing mom 71 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: when and if all that blessing happens totally. 72 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: You know, I'm definitely not getting younger, but I feel 73 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: like we still wanted to have a blowout somewhere like 74 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: Blaine and I. You know, we just got married. We 75 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: haven't been together for decades or anything. 76 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, honeymoon first decided. 77 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're like, we're going to blow it out this summer. 78 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna travel, We're going to like have fun, do 79 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: the things that even though you can do any of kids, 80 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: is not as easy. So we're good. I'm going to 81 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: wait till like the wintertime. 82 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: You've been pretty quiet since marrying Blaine, who I had 83 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 1: the pleasure of meeting gosh, I don't know when. When 84 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: was the super Bowl party when we ran into you eyes? 85 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: It was so great because I had not met him yet, 86 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: and I think he's the definition of tall, dark and handsome. 87 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pretty easy on that. 88 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: He is pretty easy on the eyes. I'm not gonna lie. 89 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: I don't want you to get jealous. There's nothing between us. 90 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: But he's a handsome guy. 91 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: He's pretty easy on the eyes. Yeah, that was super 92 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: Bowl probably two years ago, a couple of years ago. La. 93 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: I don't think we were engaged yet either. 94 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: No, you weren't y'all just you just kind of gotten 95 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: serious and really just I think had essentially gone public 96 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: and we've ran into you guys and had a chance 97 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: to talk and have since, you know, seen him a 98 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: couple of times, and it just I loved and I 99 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: texted you right afterwards. I said, I just love the 100 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: smile on your face. You look so happy. What is 101 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: it about you, guys? What is it about him that 102 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: made you so happy? 103 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: He's the best? I mean, you met him, like everyone 104 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: that meets my is like, he's just the best. He's easy, 105 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: he's cool, he's got like swag, he's funny, he's kind 106 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: like he's a boys boy for sure, like he is 107 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: a bro, but he's like a softie and he's sweet 108 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 2: and like it's funny because he's literally my best friend, 109 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: which is good because I don't have a ton of 110 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: friends here, you know, so it's nice to have like 111 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 2: a built in best friend that you live with. And 112 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 2: I used to always think that was so weird when 113 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: like women and men would say that, because it's like, what, 114 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: I've always been a girl's girl, so all my best 115 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: friends have always been female. So I always thought that 116 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: was just kind of weird, But now that I have him, 117 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: it's like, this is truly like not only my partner, 118 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 2: he's my friend, he's my lover, he's my confidant, just 119 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: kind of everything. And I mean you can probably relate 120 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 2: to that with Lauren. It's like when you find that person, 121 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: they just kind of it's all of it. There's no 122 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: one thing that you pick out and you're like, this 123 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: is what I like most about him? It just it 124 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: all in totality works, it's all fun. It's your partner, 125 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: you know, like he's my partner for life, no doubt 126 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: about it. 127 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: What's funny you say that because you and I had 128 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: kind of similar paths and we talked a lot about 129 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: this love and finding love. And I'm not going to 130 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: say you and I were skeptical, but probably we both 131 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 1: had a heart that because we both had been dating 132 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: and going through things, and you and I would share 133 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: when we would run into each other, and it did 134 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: seem like finding a unicorn of like how is are 135 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: people really in love? Are people really finding their best friends? 136 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: Does this really exist? And so when you do see 137 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: that and you recognize it, it almost seems so obvious, like, oh, yeah, 138 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: it was there. I just needed to find it. 139 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the aha, You're like, Aha, this is 140 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: who I was always supposed to be with. And you know, 141 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: I think some of that is helpful with age and maturity, 142 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: where you start to just realize that, hey, like this, 143 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: I can have love with my best friend. It doesn't 144 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: have to be dramatic and crazy, and you know, it 145 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 2: doesn't have to be these games like it actually makes 146 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 2: it so much more fun when you find the right 147 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: person to just be with and not have to deal 148 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: with all that stuff. But that comes, at least for me, 149 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 2: with a lot of maturity for sure, and experiences. 150 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: And you know, because you were so experienced in this 151 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: world when you met him, how protective of you were 152 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: you and how careful were you to kind of baby 153 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: this thing along publicly because that's a big thing, and 154 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: how to foster that and prepare him for what you 155 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: were probably going to go through because y'all remain private 156 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: for a little bit. 157 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean we met summer, like in August, 158 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: and I think I remember him coming for Thanksgiving that 159 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: November with my family, and I feel like we didn't 160 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: go public till like January. I should remember for a fact, 161 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: because it was Casey Hawsmer's wedding January we went public. 162 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: I think for me, I wasn't worried about anything with Blaine, 163 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: Like I wasn't worried about Blaine's past. I wasn't worried 164 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: about how he reacts, Like he's such a good guy 165 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: that none of that worried me. I just worried about 166 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: like people comparing and they still do, which is so 167 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: ironic to me. Like to this day, I'll post stuff 168 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: on Instagram and people will be like, oh, so glad 169 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: you'd end up with Juan Pablo or so like you're 170 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: writing another man's name like on my wall. Well, my 171 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: husband is in the photo. So it was more of 172 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: and it's not that big of a deal. It's just 173 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: little things like that that I don't want him to 174 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: like have his feelings hurt, and I don't want his 175 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: name to have to be in the same sentence as 176 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: you know, someone from the show's name. So I feel 177 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: like it was more protection of that with him and 178 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: less about like people getting to know him and see 179 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: him and end up loving him like I do. 180 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: God, you just mentioned one, but I totally forget and 181 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: you were even on one Poplo season. It's such a 182 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: distant memory and so much has happened since. 183 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: There's some good old days though. Back then we had fun, 184 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: Like remember we were traveling, like from his season in 185 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: my season, I feel like we had so much fun. 186 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: Well back then too, the show was you know, the 187 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: show had money. It was good. We actually traveled to 188 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: resorts like that you would want to stay at. It 189 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: was I mean it was really there was these destinations 190 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: and then you know when all the budgets changed and 191 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: all that, and you're staying in a motel six, you know, 192 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: on the backside of town. It was like and we're 193 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: trying to paint this beautiful picture. But yeah, and I 194 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: look back too at that group of women. I looked 195 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: at a picture the other day. It was a group date. 196 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: Were we in New Zealand? I forget where we were. 197 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: Maybe it was Vietnam. I don't know it was Vietnam 198 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: because right, yeah, and the picture I was like, looking 199 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: at who was in your group? I was like, Wow, 200 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: that was like a great group of women. 201 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, all star cast for sure. I think, like, and 202 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 2: we were so in it for like, I don't want 203 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 2: to say the right reasons, like we were there. We 204 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: all like experienced it so much, and I remember like 205 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: the social media was nothing back then, like everything was private. 206 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: You were like okay, cool, Like I probably had ten 207 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: followers before I even got on the show. And now 208 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: obviously that's changed it for better and worse. But I 209 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: just remember like we had so much fun, and like 210 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: I look back on the experiences that we had, they 211 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: were just like so authentic and cool and it was great, 212 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 2: Like it was a great time for me. 213 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: Do you think what's changed is And maybe I've never 214 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: thought about what you just said, but I think you 215 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head when people talk about 216 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: who was coming on the show and why back then, 217 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: and it wasn't like back of the day. I mean, 218 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: the show had been on for a while, but I 219 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: felt like you guys, you ladies, and most of the 220 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: guys came on genuinely, and then what happened after that 221 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: you took advantage of and instead of now, I feel 222 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: like people were coming on to take advantage of it, 223 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: and no one was really leaning into the show and 224 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: enjoy you know, like, well let's just see what happens, 225 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 1: Let's enjoy the travel, let's enjoy the process. Going to 226 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: meet some girls, you know, may fall in love whatever, 227 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: but then afterwards, well I'll take this residual bounce and 228 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: you know, better my life or whatever. But it definitely 229 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: started that group. It was just genuine everybody was having fun. 230 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: It was a blast. It was just a lot more fun. 231 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: I feel like it's one of the last seasons where 232 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: it was that authentic and real. Crystal is like, I 233 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: feel like his season because he was right after me 234 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: Bachelor obviously his girls. I feel like we're the first 235 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: to kind of start that social and it still came 236 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: after for them. It wasn't so much of going on. 237 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: But back in our day, it was like you went 238 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: on and some people's motive was just to be the 239 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 2: villain and like so no reason, you got nothing out 240 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: of it. Like that was like that was the not 241 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: there for the right reasons. Now it's social media. It's 242 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: all this ads, gigs, all kinds of stuff. 243 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely changed, but yeah, it's just funny you 244 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: mentioned I totally for I just maybe I just blocked 245 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: that whole season out traumatic syndrome, right. 246 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 2: God we got through it though. 247 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: But then you became the Bachelorette, which was a you know, 248 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: for for us anyway a popular decision because I was 249 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: so excited to get to hang with you, because you 250 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: were just so easy. I'm like, well, this is simple. Yeah, 251 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: Like you're the least needy person I think I ever 252 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: did the show. 253 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was there. If you gave me some wine, 254 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: I was good food and wine. I was happy, will. 255 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: Work for food and wine. That has not changed, by 256 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: the way. But what when you look back, do you 257 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: look back with fondness on that experience, on all of it, 258 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: or is there a part of you that wishes I 259 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: kind of wish that wasn't even part of my story anymore. 260 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: I think it's a mix. It's definitely not. I never 261 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: wish it wasn't a part of my story because I'm very, 262 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 2: very fortunate from the show of like what I get 263 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: to do and where I get to be and the 264 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: things I've done, the people I've met. And I've always 265 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: said that, like it was a life changing thing for me. 266 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 2: I mean completely. I was twenty seven, twenty eight years old. 267 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: I thought I was going to be a lawyer for 268 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 2: my life, and you know, next thing you know, I'm 269 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: like going to Paris and living in New York and 270 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: doing like incredible things so it's just it just changed 271 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: my life. It wasn't so much of like, oh it 272 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: made it so much better. I wish I wouldn't have 273 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 2: done it. It just it changed my life. And there's 274 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: really no reason to kind of, you know, dissect it 275 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: and say was it good or bad, because it was 276 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: it hastened here. I am. Yeah, it just was. And 277 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: I think it took me a while to kind of 278 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: accept that, to be honest. There were things that, of 279 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 2: course I wish had never happened on the show, as 280 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: everyone does, you know. There were things that I felt 281 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: like a little humiliated about, especially like the live show after, 282 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: Like that was really tough for me. Now I'm thirty 283 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: six years old and I'd be like, who gives it? 284 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: You know, I don't care. But back then there was 285 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 2: seven twenty eight. It was super impactful. So I look 286 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 2: back on it with the impact that it had in 287 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 2: different ways, but not necessarily as like, oh it was amazing. 288 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: It was amazing, not necessarily as like oh it was 289 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: like the best thing in my life or the worst 290 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 2: thing in my life. 291 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: It just was well all things, you know, when I 292 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: used to describe the job, because people go you know, 293 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: would say, oh, my god, you have the most amazing job. 294 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: You travel around the world. It's the same thing. All 295 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: things can be true, multiple things can be true at 296 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: the same time. It can be a great experience. You 297 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: can remember it fondly. It's not all It wasn't all great, 298 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, same thing with my job. It's like there 299 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: were a lot of things that sucked about it. There 300 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: were a lot of things that were amazing about it. 301 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: I look back on it with great fondness and good memories. 302 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: Where there are things I would change absolutely, but that's life. 303 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you're right, just a part of your life too, 304 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: It's not it's not my whole life. That's the other 305 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: thing is like, I don't identify the show my whole life. 306 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: You know, I don't really work in it as much anymore. 307 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: I don't like it's just it was a part of 308 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 2: my life. But my life is a lot bigger than 309 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: just the show. 310 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: But you've made that decision, and you know, I think 311 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: that is what I always tried to tell Bachelor's bacheorettes. 312 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Ben Higgins and I had this kind of 313 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: famous conversation he always talks about where I said, take 314 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: this and let it enhance your life. Don't let it 315 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: become your life and change everything about you. And some 316 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: people do get swallowed up by it. You've seen it, 317 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: and you know it's it's unfortunate. It's like the you know, 318 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: move for move to La and let it take over 319 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: your life, and you you quickly realize that that is 320 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: a fleeting flame and it goes out quickly, and then 321 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: you you're kind of chasing and chasing. And so those 322 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: that get engulfed by it, you do see it, and 323 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: you did a good job of just the outskirts of 324 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: that and then maintaining your own existence, which was important. 325 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: Well for me. It's also a short term fix. You know, 326 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: we don't know how long the show is going to go. 327 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: But if you're if your entire world is Bachelor Nation, 328 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: like what happens when it's done right? Like right, yeah, 329 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: for sure, So what happens. And I think me personally, 330 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: I always like I never wanted to rely on it, 331 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: especially in a financial aspect like that. So it was 332 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: like I needed to do other things, whether I was 333 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: writing the book, whether it was like just doing other 334 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: things that you know, pulled from Bachelor Nation for sure, 335 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: but like also like I need a whole life, full life. 336 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: Are you so happy that? I mean, you probably would 337 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: have fallen in love with Blaine anyway, but the fact 338 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: that he's just such a regular guy away away from 339 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: all of this, was that a little bit attractive to you? Yeah? 340 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: I mean, to be honest, in hindsight, I'm like, I 341 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: don't know if that's really my type, like the guy 342 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: that goes onto a reality TV show. Like again, like 343 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 2: in hindsight, I'm like, that's probably not the person I 344 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: was going to end up with. You know, I need 345 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: someone like career driven oriented all that stuff. So yeah, 346 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: it's nice to just have like a solid guy that 347 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: is not doesn't care. I mean the only thing that 348 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: he watches on TV is sports, Like there's nothing else TV. 349 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: He's such a dude. 350 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: Is he a Georgia Is he a Georgia Bulldogs fan? 351 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: No, It's He's funny because you know, he played college baseball. 352 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: This is how big of a Broie is, Like, he 353 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: played college baseball, and so he's like, yeah, it's just athletes, 354 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: just sports. Like when I took him to Casey's wedding, 355 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: who married? Uh he was playing with the Padres at 356 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: that point. I'm like, what islay going to think, like 357 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: the entire team's going to be here, and he was like, 358 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: oh cool, what's up. Like he's just a guy, so 359 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: he's not really like he doesn't fallen over sports. I'd 360 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: say he probably likes basketball, but like Georgia football, it's 361 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: not his team. It's not my team either, never was. 362 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: But Tiger an l girl. Yeah, Lsu and Waite. 363 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: You guys get engaged and you decide you're going to 364 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: get married in Italy. That was that was that because 365 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: I was one of your first dates, or not dates, 366 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: but big trips together. You're like, we're going to come 367 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: back here and get married. 368 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: We met there. We met in Positano, so I had 369 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: met him one time back in college. I got a party. 370 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: Never talked in like fifteen years, like we weren't friend, 371 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: we didn't communicate or anything. And then he was in 372 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: Italy when I was there, we met up and it 373 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: was like, okay, when we've gone engaged. Were that was 374 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: the whole Like we didn't even look at anywhere else. Actually, 375 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: now that I think about it, it was more aware 376 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 2: in Italy. 377 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so tell tell me about this magical wedding. 378 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 2: I Oh, it was so fun. It was great it was. 379 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: We did three days. It was small, which was perfect. 380 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: I was like, I do not want to be walking 381 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: down the aisle with three hundred people, nothing like that. 382 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: It was very like small, intimate. It was great. It 383 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: was in Italy. Like we had a little bit of 384 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: a rain scare, which was really really interesting because it 385 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: was going to rain on our wedding day and we 386 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: were boating everybody down the Malfy coast for the actual 387 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: ceremony at this beach club that we love, and then 388 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: we're boating them back. So the day before we're like 389 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: looking at villas to try and move everything indoor. We 390 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 2: were looking at the weather super stressed, and Blade and 391 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 2: I were just like, screw it. We haven't, you know, 392 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 2: made it this far. We're going for it, and the 393 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: sky's kind of opened. It rained everywhere except Sorrento on 394 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 2: our wedding day. It was the wildest thing. It was 395 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: just perfect and like, that's good luck for Blaine. I 396 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: feel like Blaine brought all the karma and luve for 397 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: that and it was just magical. The next day we 398 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: were like going to have just a low key beach 399 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: club party and everyone was just in the water going crazy. Partying, 400 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: having so much fun. 401 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: Little drama with the dress though, Oh god. 402 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, just I feel like there's got to be some 403 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: sort of drama going to be something. Mine was the 404 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: dress that we worked it out. 405 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: It was fine, was it? Every day? 406 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 2: Wedding dresses are hard. 407 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: They are hard because it's funny to pin so much 408 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: on a piece of clothing. It's like, this piece of 409 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 1: clothing needs to encapsulate emotion and feeling and fit as 410 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: well and be comfortable and beautiful and all the things. 411 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: It's hard to put that much pressure on a dress. 412 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: I just put the pressure on the other dresses. I 413 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I don't even care. I 414 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 2: had such fun other dresses that I loved, like the 415 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: rehearsal dinner and the after party and stuff like that 416 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: I was like, these are my fun moments. Those are 417 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: the ones hanging in my closet. Still. 418 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: Were you a multiple wardrobe changer that day? 419 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I did three that day. I wanted to 420 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 2: do four, but there wasn't enough time. I was in 421 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: it for the dresses. I would have been fine, like 422 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: doing just a quiet ceremony somewhere. I didn't care. Blaine 423 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 2: wanted a wedding. I wanted to give it to him. 424 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: In hindsight, of course, I loved that we did it. 425 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: But no, I got married for Blaine. I had the 426 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: wedding for the dresses. 427 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: Any wedding advice for. 428 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: Me, hmmm, take lots of pictures, don't do it. Take 429 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: pictures of just the two of you, a lot of 430 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: pictures of the two of you. Also, we didn't spend 431 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 2: the night the night before, and I loved that. 432 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's funny. We've talked about that, we've already. 433 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: It was cool. 434 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm actually in this. You're not going to be shocked, 435 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: but it's a golf thing. But there's something the week 436 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: of and I'm actually I was debating. I'm like, oh, 437 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: I shouldn't leave. I shouldn't leave because there's going to 438 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: be stuff to do. And I say, you know what, 439 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: I am going to leave, like we're going to be 440 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: a part for several days leading up to it. And 441 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: then you know, I was debating on the night before, 442 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: and I think that's a good idea. I think I'm 443 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: going to take that advice. It was just cool. 444 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, plain and I lived together like that 445 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: wasn't big deal. But I remember after our rehearsal dinner, 446 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: he came to our hotel room we were still sharing 447 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 2: at that time. We popped a bottle of wine. We 448 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 2: actually stayed on our balcony because it was so beautiful. 449 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: To two am. We would but the night before our 450 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 2: just the two of us, and it was so cool. 451 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: And then he went to his room and I didn't 452 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: see huntil the next day, and it was just like 453 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 2: that anticipation. It made what sometimes becomes like mundane and 454 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 2: the daily life really exciting for us. 455 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something about waking up together on your wedding 456 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: day and kind of then heading off. It makes it 457 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: does It makes it kind of normal and you want 458 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: it to be special. That's good. That's good advice. I'm 459 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: going to take that. I will. I'm gonna going to 460 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: go find my own hall or closet to sleep in. 461 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Blaine went from this huge suite. 462 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Yeah. I wouldn't get asked who kept the 463 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: sweet I assume that's uh. What else? What else about you? 464 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: What the pictures? I like the separation. Did you guys 465 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: honeymoon after or your wedding was a honeymoon? 466 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: Mini moon? 467 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 3: We just went to Coppery after, yeah, which is obviously, 468 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: you know, just a faery ride over, which was great 469 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 3: because we got to just chill and like look at 470 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 3: pictures and like share stories of what happened. 471 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: It was. That was really fun. 472 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: And life after when we'll see when did you get 473 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 1: It's only been what two months? As I say, it's 474 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: been a few months since you guys got married. 475 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 2: When did I get married? Oh? 476 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: God, when is your anniversary? 477 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: Two months? 478 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's been been a couple of months. You 479 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: guys have settled in Greenville, South Carolina. 480 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. 481 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: How was that decision? Were you? Was that always part 482 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: of the plan to leave the city, And. 483 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 2: I mean it wasn't ever part of the plan until 484 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 2: I met Blaine. You know, I was in We were 485 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 2: engaged when I was still living in La Granted we 486 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: were seeing each other every other week every week sometimes 487 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: like we did. 488 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: Because it was a long distance for a bit. 489 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, for I mean a year and a half. 490 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: I guess that's not easy. 491 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, a year, year and a half somewhere around there, 492 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: lots of sky miles, for sure. But we made it work. 493 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: I Mean, the thing is is Blaine is here, like 494 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: his work is here. He works in real estate here, 495 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 2: and so there was never an option of like him 496 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: coming to California at this time. Yeah, at the time 497 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: we got engaged, So it was pretty like easy in 498 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 2: terms of I'll say this, it was really hard for 499 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 2: me to leave California and leave my life, but it 500 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 2: was a no brainer because I needed to be with Blade. 501 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. If that might get that, No, it makes one 502 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: hundred percent sense. Yeah, if you had your drothers, you 503 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: would stay, but you knew you weren't missing out on this, 504 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: not on your person. 505 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: That was the easy part was choosing Blade, no doubt. 506 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: If there was anybody ever equipped though to be a 507 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: country girl, it's not a big leap for you. 508 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: No, And I'm from Georgia. My parents lived two and 509 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: a half hours away, like I grew up. It's funny. 510 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 2: I used to drive through Greenville when I was at 511 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: Wake Forest when I drove home to Atlanta, and I'd 512 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: always be like, what's that place? I literally remember seeing 513 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 2: it on the sign all the time. And now I'm like, oh, okay. 514 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: Oh it's home now. Yeah, yeah, no. 515 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 2: I mean it's I think you're right. People think New York, LA. 516 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: But I grew up in Georgia. I went to school 517 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: in Louisiana. You know, I learned how to noodle catfish 518 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: in Louisiana. Ford's sake, I can do it. 519 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that many of our bachelors or bach threads 520 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: I have ever noodled. 521 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: Before, No, no doubt. 522 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: What is life like then in Greenville, South Carolina? What's 523 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: life on the daily for you? What are you up to? 524 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: It's easy, I will say. My favorite thing about living 525 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 2: here is like it's easy. You know, you don't realize 526 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 2: kind of until you come here. Just the DMV is easy. 527 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: People like hold the door open for you and you 528 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 2: have like bags. The quality of life is great. We're 529 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 2: building a house, so that part that has been taken 530 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 2: up a lot of stuff for me right now, between 531 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: that and then writing the third book that's going to happen. 532 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 2: Which is funny because I say I'm writing again. I 533 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 2: never really stopped. I've always journaled stuff, but now I'm 534 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: just putting all the pieces together there, which is a total, 535 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 2: like mind blowing experience to have. I have seven years 536 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: worth of stuff. 537 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: Now it's correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm an idiot, 538 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: if I am. This is book three. 539 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, book number three. 540 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: So yeah, so the first two books, and you and 541 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: I have talked a lot about this because we kind 542 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: of lived through those first two books in your life 543 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: and those experiences, and they were more of, for lack 544 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: of a better way to sum it up, that Carrie Bradshaw, 545 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: she singles She's taking on the world, and that's kind 546 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: of what you thought book three was going to be about. 547 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: So book three has probably changed exponentially. 548 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 2: Exponentially and people keep asking like, oh, where's book three? 549 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 2: Where's book three? And I've been writing it, but it 550 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: never had like a full picture. And it's also really 551 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: interesting and you can probably relate to this is you 552 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: go back and read what you've written and you're like, wow, 553 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: I was really in a certain time of place in 554 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: my life right then, and it's still going to be 555 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: included in everything, but you see it differently when you're 556 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: just away from it for a while. 557 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: That's good, though. I was gonna ask, will you go 558 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: back and quote unquote cool it up, you know, like, oh, 559 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: that seems silly now or that's immature now, but that 560 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: is where you were, and it's like you got to 561 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: give yourself the grace of who you were back then 562 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: that's okay. It's okay to have been that person, and 563 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: you know, don't explain who you were in the past. 564 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: It's all right. 565 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'll definitely leave that a lot of stuff 566 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: in there, because there's a ton of stuff too. I mean, 567 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: I went through the ringer, like, you know, because we 568 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 2: are super close in that sensement, I'm not public about 569 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff you know that is negative necessarily, 570 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 2: So like when I went through a rough patch in 571 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 2: New York, I never was the person to share it online. 572 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: I just was writing about it. 573 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: Obviously. I think one of the things you and I 574 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: had discussed about book three, and maybe not writer's block, 575 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: but the block of the whole book, was like, Okay, 576 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: where's this going? Is this the fairy tale ending? Is 577 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: this the culmination you Blaine, Greenville, South Carolina, the dream wedding? 578 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: Is is this the kind of the perfect finish that 579 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: you never could have probably even dreamed of. 580 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. But like it's definitely not a love 581 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: story in that sense. Like I don't want it to 582 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: be all about the ending because that's not the important 583 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 2: part of it for me. I think the journey of 584 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 2: getting there is even more important and everyone's ending is 585 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: going to look different anyways. Yes, it's a fairy tale 586 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: ending for me, but it's also like, hey, here's the surprise. 587 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 2: You know, I got married, So like we can get 588 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: that out of the way and talk about how we 589 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: actually got to this point. I think that's more important, 590 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: especially for me, also in keeping a lot of that 591 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 2: independence that I had and still have to be honest, 592 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: but the independence is how I got to Blaine, and 593 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 2: so that part has always been important to me. So 594 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: the story is much more than just the ending. But 595 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: the ending to me has made me see things differently 596 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: and just in a fuller picture. 597 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: Well, it's what you were known for. It's what people 598 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: resonated or what resonated with people about the books was 599 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: your journey, and you weren't afraid of the mess, and 600 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: you weren't afraid of leaning into it and being silly 601 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: and being vulnerable and all those things. And it wasn't 602 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: always perfect, and I think that's what people needed to see. 603 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: But I love the fact that all that mess, all 604 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: the craziness, the good decisions, the bad decisions, led to 605 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: this and there is a landing for everybody. 606 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I hope it's like hopeful for people too. 607 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: You know, I got married at thirty six years old, like, 608 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: and it's some people will say, oh, you're you know, 609 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: so young, people say oh gosh, But the point is, 610 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: like it's not. It wasn't always a fairy tale for me. 611 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: And I always tell people, you know, my friends that 612 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: go through breakups, even people from Bachelor Nation like will 613 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: reach out to me like with breakup stuff, and I'm like, listen, 614 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: like I get it. I've been there, done it. I 615 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: might not have shared everything, but like I know how 616 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: you feel. You're okay to feel this way. I promise you, 617 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: like it will work out one way or another. You 618 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: will get over this. But like I've been there, I 619 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: get it, and I don't ever want to neglect that 620 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: or deny that by just like making this perfect love story. 621 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: Well that's the thing is you get wrapped up in 622 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: your own happiness and it's like everything else fades away 623 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: and everything's all glowy and happy, and that people are 624 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: out there like no, it's not always perfect, and it's 625 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: and it's again, multiple things can be true at the 626 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: same time. 627 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: Love. 628 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: Love can be an amazing thing, it can suck at times. 629 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: It's yeah, and the and the in betweens and all 630 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: the grind and all that is the good stuff that 631 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: you know. And this too shall pass. Just remember that 632 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: no matter what, this too sh'll pass. What else? What 633 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: else have you and I not talked about in forever? 634 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 2: I feel like we had a lot. I don't know. 635 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: It's amazing to me to see you like this. 636 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: Why I'm grown ten years now? 637 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 3: You? 638 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: Is that how long we've known each other? 639 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 2: Ten years? I think it's going to be ten coming 640 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: up on ten years for me for the show. Yeah, 641 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: which means definitely because Mom Paula would have been the 642 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 2: year before. 643 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so over a decade I've known you and it 644 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: never ex actually. 645 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: To be married living in South Carolina. 646 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that sounds about right to me. That sounds 647 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: about right. I don't see you living in New York 648 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: and LA. I always thought those were placeholders for you 649 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: and true you just just because I always saw that 650 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: other side of you that is so, you know, because 651 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: your family, your mom, your dad, and you're just your 652 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: family is is that they are such down home people. 653 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: I think there's just such a big part of that 654 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: in you. I was like, it does make good sense 655 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: to me that you're in I don't know if Greenville, 656 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: South Carolina was the answer, but I definitely sell you 657 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: going back to your roots, if that makes sense. 658 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: It's funny because I feel more home here, which is 659 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: so crazy because I miss La and I miss New York, 660 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: but I also just miss my friends there. But I 661 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: feel like, Okay, I'm a home here. That's taken me 662 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: a lot to like understand because obviously I see my 663 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 2: friends and I see you know, people from Bachelor and 664 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 2: on Instagram like living this life that I kind of 665 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 2: used to live, and I'm like, oh, what am I doing? 666 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: But then I just have to realize, like internally how 667 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: I feel, not externally when I open up social media, 668 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: but like internally on a daily basis, like I feel 669 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: happy inside. I feel home. I feel like Lade and 670 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: I have built a home and like that's the stuff 671 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: that really matters. But I've really had to practice that 672 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: to be honest. Is like understanding that. 673 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: Lord and I left and we now live in Texas, 674 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: which you know, as you know, I was always coming 675 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: home to Texas as well, and now I love the 676 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: lifestyle and I love just the way of life and 677 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: how simple, like you said, it's just good people who 678 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: live their life and immediately there are the things that 679 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: you won't be going to because they're just in LA 680 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: or New York or whatever. Do you miss those moments, 681 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: some of those events or are you kind of like me, 682 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: where the further I've gotten away from them, the more 683 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: relief I am that I'm not going. 684 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,239 Speaker 2: I think for me, it's like that whole you know, 685 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: you don't feel invited or popular enough, and that's just 686 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: a thing with social media. I don't I don't care 687 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: how popular are. I think everyone feels that way in 688 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 2: some extent, whether it's like, oh yeah, so I definitely 689 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 2: feel that fomo. I mean, I'm not invited to as 690 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: many events. You know, I live in Greenville as I 691 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: was in New York and LA. So that adjustment has 692 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 2: kind of been like, Okay, I need to set my 693 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: ego aside and not feel like, oh I'm not invited 694 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: to something. I just don't live there anymore. And so 695 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: to me, I think it's been a segue of like, 696 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: maybe this is my new kind of life and that's okay. 697 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 2: I did all that in the past and I had 698 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: fun and it was great, but like you know, I 699 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 2: wake up every day and I have a loving husband, 700 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: and like, I have a great life and I'm happy, 701 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 2: and I have to just like I kind of have 702 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: to just really be okay with that, and that shouldn't be. 703 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: You have to remind yourself. 704 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was single going all those events. 705 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: I probably wasn't very happy anyways, So like, what does 706 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: it matter just because I got to go an event? 707 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: Right? You know? No, those A lot of those events 708 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: are so empty when you're there and everybody's just looking 709 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: over their shoulder to who else is in the room, 710 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: who can I talk to? And a bunch of social. 711 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: Climbers never really mean it. I was never really good 712 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: at that anyways, to be honest, Like, I just was 713 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 2: never good at kind of that networking, you know, budding 714 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 2: up to. Yeah, it wasn't great at it. 715 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: Well, this looks good on you. Thanks, This looks really 716 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: good on you. It fits perfect. Thanks, and I appreciate 717 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: you taking the time to come on. I know you 718 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: were a little worried that this could have gone sideways, 719 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: but it did not. 720 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: Well the most dramatic I'm like, shit, I'm not really 721 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: that traumatic. 722 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: It's kind of the title is kind of tongue in cheek. 723 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: It's honestly with you. It was it was more of 724 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: people had reached out because I you know, a lot 725 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: of people will give us topics and people that they 726 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: want to hear from, and like Colton and the fence 727 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: jump and all these things. And people kept asking, where's 728 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: Andy Dorfmann? Where is she? I know, I know it's 729 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: not Andy Dorfman anymore, but you've kept Dorfmann, didn't change 730 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: the name. 731 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: I'm going to change him. I'm waiting until we move 732 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 2: because I'm not. 733 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: You are going to change your name? Yeah, Andy Hart. 734 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah that's a better pen name anyway. 735 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 2: I don't have to say, isn't David O? R EPs 736 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: and Frank Emma's in mary A n anymore? I'm good. 737 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: Lauren's not changing your name. 738 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a good last name. 739 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: Now, Seema, I know I kind of want to change 740 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: my name to Zema. Is that weird? Has they never 741 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: done that? 742 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 743 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 1: My initials c Z. That's great. 744 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: I don't think that's for you. No, okay, no offense 745 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: to the guys out there, but I don't think that's 746 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 2: for you. 747 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, she's like, I'm not changing my name, 748 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 1: is it? That's fine? I totally get it. Lauren Lauren 749 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 1: Harrison as opposed to Lauren Zima. It's a good name. 750 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: It's it's good. 751 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 2: I think she just picked the best last name and 752 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 2: either keep. 753 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: It or take That's a good idea. Yeah, it's like, 754 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: screw tradition, go with what looks best and what sounds best. Well, 755 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: Andy Hart is a good one. I love that, and 756 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: I love you and appreciate your friendship. You've always been amazing. 757 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: And everyone reached out and said, where is Andy, what's 758 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: going on? I said, I don't know. I'm going to 759 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: call her and let's let's talk, and you were like, yeah, sure. 760 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: So thanks for coming, thanks for coming out of hiding. 761 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: Thanks for the proof of life palls check complete, send 762 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: me a courier pigeon if you need help in Greenville, 763 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: South Carolina. Thank you, Thank you all right, Andy, take 764 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 1: care bye. Thanks thanks for listening. Follow us on Instagram 765 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: at the most dramatic pod ever and make sure to 766 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: write us a review and leave us five stars. I'll 767 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:36,919 Speaker 1: talk to you next time.