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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. Tell us some creepy stories. What do you

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Speaker 1: have out there in the well? I was going through

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Speaker 1: this list today and I was thinking about this show.

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Speaker 1: One that really struck me was there was a gentleman

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Speaker 1: who was an archaeologist who called the show back a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, twenty seventeen, and he and his

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Speaker 1: wife were a sign because down south somewhere they were

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Speaker 1: building a highway and unfortunately they went through this farm

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Speaker 1: from the nineteen twenties and there were a bunch of

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Speaker 1: unmarked graves and they hit it with this radar that

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Speaker 1: they use, and they wanted to treat these graves respectfully,

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Speaker 1: but they had to relocate them for this highway because

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Speaker 1: they had no idea that there were graves here, and

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Speaker 1: they would dig up the graves, they would take photographs

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Speaker 1: so they could make sure to put them back the

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Speaker 1: way they were in the new place they'd be moved.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, this guy was at home, he's working in

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Speaker 1: this job. His wife was an anthropologist, so she was

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Speaker 1: working with him, and he decided to add an extension

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Speaker 1: phone in his office. When people use landlines and anyway,

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Speaker 1: so he did it, and that night he goes to

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Speaker 1: bed and he lays down and his phone in his

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Speaker 1: office starts ringing, but only in his office, no other

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Speaker 1: place in the house. He gets up, he answers it

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Speaker 1: and it's kind of like this noise. He thought, that's weird.

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Speaker 1: He goes back to bed and it rings again. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: the next morning he wakes up. He's talking to his

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Speaker 1: wife and she said, I'd the strangest dream, and he

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Speaker 1: I woke up, a man came out of the bathroom

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Speaker 1: and said, answer the phone. And I got up and

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Speaker 1: answered the phone in your office, and a voice came

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Speaker 1: on and it stopped, stopped and said, stop digging up

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Speaker 1: the graves. Zay too, said stop digging up the graves,

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Speaker 1: and she said, well, we can't because you know these

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Speaker 1: do the right thing and take care of these people.

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Speaker 1: And the voice said be careful. So anyway, he was

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Speaker 1: dumbfounded and told her about the weird thing about the

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Speaker 1: phone in the office ringing. She went back to get

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Speaker 1: ready for the day, passed his office and saw a

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Speaker 1: picture by the phone, and she called them back and

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Speaker 1: she said why is this here? And he said why,

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Speaker 1: why is what here? And there was a picture of

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Speaker 1: one of the graves by the phone, and the thing

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Speaker 1: was George. He said that he never put up one

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Speaker 1: So was something from beyond calling and saying stop digging

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Speaker 1: the graves. Have these stories changed your views about life

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Speaker 1: after death? I don't know that they've changed them. I

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Speaker 1: think they've amplified them. And I know that you've had

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Speaker 1: probably a similar experience. Time after time people have called

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Speaker 1: in with stories that really either one of two possibilities,

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Speaker 1: either either lying or b there really is something there.

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes those are a couple of the possibilities.

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Speaker 1: I had a young lady who and I think for

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Speaker 1: the most part, people are very sincere and they are

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Speaker 1: not lying. I'd a young lady last year, twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: She had been a school teacher, substitute school teacher, and

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Speaker 1: she worked with kids like in the fourth grade, and anyway,

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Speaker 1: woke up crying, and in fact, when she was telling

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Speaker 1: time after time, people that know details of things that

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Speaker 1: many times we communicate back to our Do you ever

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Speaker 1: get stories from the other side that are enlightening and

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Speaker 1: that they're affirming, I don't know as much as fun.

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Speaker 1: like that, as I thought was like a wink from

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Speaker 1: a late uncle. I have been on a paranormal cruise

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Speaker 1: with Mica Hanks. Oh yeah, good guy. Mike is great

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Speaker 1: and the great Rosemary Ellen Guiley. And anyway, they had

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Speaker 1: to get some coffee because I had a sore through

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Speaker 1: and there was this crane machine there with money in it,

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Speaker 1: And anyway, the thing was is that I thought immediately

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Speaker 1: my late uncle, who died in twenty thirteen, who loved

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Speaker 1: playing those machines drug stores and things. He'd spend ten

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Speaker 1: I had an intense thought of him, said, Manna, he

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Speaker 1: would love playing this machine for money. No less. All

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, a woman walks next to this guy

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Speaker 1: playing this machine and he goes, She goes John, John.

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Speaker 1: Guess what my late uncle's name was John? It was John.

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Speaker 1: And what I think that was was like a wink

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Speaker 1: from the universe. My uncle was saying, Hey, you were

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Speaker 1: just thinking about me and how you wish that I

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Speaker 1: was there. Well, I am there and hello, And I

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Speaker 1: think that sort of thing happens all the time to people.

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Speaker 1: Jim Harold's website is his name Jim Harold h r

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Speaker 1: old dot com, and he also has Jim Harold's Campfire podcast,

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Speaker 1: the Parre Normal Podcast. And you're also doing Jim Harold's

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Speaker 1: Crime Scene. Tell me about that. Yeah, that's a show

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Speaker 1: where I interview different people about true crime. We've had

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Speaker 1: quite a few Pulitzer Prize winners on it, and we

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Speaker 1: just talked to these experts about these crimes. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I struggled with that topic because I thought, is this

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Speaker 1: being sensationalistic and capitalizing on the sadness of these people?

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Speaker 1: But the more I do it, the more I think

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Speaker 1: it is a good thing because what it does is

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Speaker 1: it gives a cautionary tale. Maybe somebody doesn't do something

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Speaker 1: that's potentially risky. Maybe somebody turns on an extra light.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe somebody calls a friend and tells them

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Speaker 1: a little bit more careful. Maybe maybe the whole time

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Speaker 1: I've been doing this podcast, which has been for several years,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's helped one person, and one person didn't go

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Speaker 1: to a certain way. You never know, So I and

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Speaker 1: I personally, the cases I'm most interested in are the

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Speaker 1: historic cases, the unsolved cases. Of course, we have things

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Speaker 1: like Jack the Ripper and the Lindburger Lindburg baby kidnapped.

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Speaker 1: But the one that fascinates me is in Cleveland, the

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Speaker 1: Torso murders. And a few people know this, that's my hometown, Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Elliot Ness was in Cleveland after his time in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: and this was one case he could not crack. He

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Speaker 1: could not find the Torso murder murderer who murdered I

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Speaker 1: don't know, it was like maybe ten people, and he

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Speaker 1: would cut off their heads and they would usually be

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Speaker 1: found in these downtrodden areas of town and things and

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Speaker 1: not actually I grew up in kind of a rough

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Speaker 1: So I find those those cases absolutely fascinating. What's one

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Speaker 1: of the weirdest stories, Jim, that has ever crossed your way? Well,

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Speaker 1: there was one a few years ago with the law

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Speaker 1: for him, like a zombie and he was acting like

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Speaker 1: he was Farrell, and he looked like he was going

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Speaker 1: it was very strange because this guy kind of grunted,

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Speaker 1: what was going on with him. So anyway, another law

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Speaker 1: doesn't recognize. But as part of his report, he takes

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Speaker 1: guy's kind of nasty. And he said, well, we'll take

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Speaker 1: I don't recognize this patrolman, the state state patrol, and

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Speaker 1: like a men in black scenario? Or what does it? Sure?

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Speaker 1: Does we get all kinds of strange stories, don't we? Yeah? Yeah?

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