1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: When you first got to the league, who's the first 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: person to like bust your ass? 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: Like he was like, man, I'm. 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: In the league something. I got all them points right there. 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: I feel like he gave all that to me. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: B D. 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 3: B D. B D used to tap me up. Bro. 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 3: He was so nice. It's handle. We had a crazy bar. 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 3: He had tray ball, strong, athletic, and he was a dog. 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like you know what, another 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 3: dog when you since one? You seen when I rolled 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 3: up to us, all your dog. B D was the 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 3: first one. And then it was crazy because I remember, 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 3: like my rookie year, we wound up making the playoffs 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 3: like last minute right like we was. We was like 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: going into the last game. He was like, we got 17 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 3: to win this game to get a seed. But somebody 18 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 3: else want somebody else lost, somebody else lost or whatever. 19 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: We end up getting four seed. So we end up 20 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: locker room celebrating, like yeah, maybe you know we getting 21 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: the extra money for see we got home court and 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: who we play Charlotte. I had to go into a 23 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: dark place. I'm like, I gotta guard bat d s 24 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: seven games went to a dark place. I went into 25 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: a dark place, though, I'm a rookie. You know what 26 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I'm like, all right, this is my first 27 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: job spent, Like I go against the person I hate 28 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: guarding the most. 29 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: Yo. 30 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 3: We live on location. 31 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 4: Man, it's the knuckleheads coming from Miami South Beach. 32 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: And my main man Way County. Bro, it's Way County. 33 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my bad. 34 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 4: Not not in Miami South Beach. We are in Wade County. 35 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 4: Everybody at Wade Manor, you're on location. So if y'all 36 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 4: hear some boats or yachts or airplanes or mini helicopters, 37 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 4: that's what's going on. Because we are at Wade Manor 38 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 4: and it's big time out here. Y'all check us out. 39 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: Man. 40 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: We're chilling with a Hall of Famer first ballot and 41 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 4: talk that talk right up. This is Q Rich and 42 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 4: D Miles and knuckleheads. 43 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: We coach a push us. That's when I knew. 44 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: I was like, this is fact finder right here. This 45 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 3: is a story that people don't know. Can't call me soft, 46 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: You can't disrespect where I'm from. I did deal with 47 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 3: a lot of losers and that shit sucked. I got 48 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: your crack. We come from an authentic old jeek standpoint. 49 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: But it's always good vibe. Yeah, what are y'all doing here? 50 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: I thought I was just coming over to watch the game, 51 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: and you guys got a microphone set up in the backyard. 52 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 3: And okay, I liked it. 53 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: I liked it. I liked it. 54 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: And also I didn't like Guarden, Ray Allen and those 55 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: guys like Ray and Rip because I didn't know how 56 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: to chase screens, you know what I'm saying, Like, I 57 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 3: didn't know to get on the house, even though I 58 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: knew because Coach Crean taught us. We tear you up 59 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: on these screens. You got taught. 60 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 2: Bro. 61 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: I came from playing Zone defense. Bro. 62 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I was out there lost. And then even 63 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 4: though I was playing the four, then went from the 64 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: four to the and had to deal with Reggie Ray, 65 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 4: Reggie scratching and throwing you stopping and going and rip them. 66 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: Nail. 67 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 4: I used to hate like he was the coolest dude, 68 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 4: so you really couldn't really want to fight him, but 69 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 4: like you wanted to because you left the game. 70 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, I always act like he didn't do nothing 71 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: wrong because. 72 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: He was so nice to He was the coolest dude ever, 73 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: was so cool, and you know what other other people. 74 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: I didn't like guardian or guarding me. For say, it 75 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: was the little guys in the league, so like I'm 76 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 3: not the tallest guy, but anybody like shortened me, like Dave, 77 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: like those little mighty mouse Bro, I hate guarding them 78 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: because you said it was quick fast and then at 79 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: the same time, like I'm playing a new position, I'm 80 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: playing at the point. That's right, man, I got ripped 81 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: so fast. Bro, he's in Portland. Dog, I'm bringing the 82 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: ball up about trying to call the play gone right? 83 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: Something cool? Cool? Get it again. I threw that mother 84 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: ll next I was like, take that up, little dudes, 85 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: I understand them. 86 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: Start of mind was cold. I love playing with him. 87 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: That was my favorite point go out to play. 88 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: With And I was high school. 89 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: What made you decide the high school you went to 90 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: in Chicago? 91 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: Well, so I wanted to go to Winny Young, right, 92 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: because we wanted to go to crack and these days 93 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: they had with the young popping in the city. You 94 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like it was the bulls, and 95 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: you know, I'm like, pops, I want to go to 96 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: win Young And my dad used to work downtown, you 97 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So it was like, uh, my 98 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: dad was all for it. But my older brother, Demetrice, 99 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: he went to he went to Richards and he was 100 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 3: like the man over there, like you're in his own brand, 101 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: like his own thing over there. So yeah, he was 102 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: used to be you see now. So I was in between. 103 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,679 Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I want to go down there, but legacy, 104 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: I'm I got a little we got a little name 105 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: of a little legacy over here. So I just followed 106 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: the path to my brother, you know what I mean. 107 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 3: Then I found out I think when young had an interest, 108 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: you gotta take a test to get in. I was like, nah, 109 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: I'm cool. I don't know what that might be like. 110 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 4: And that test was hard, to know what I'm saying, 111 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 4: three hours joined us something like what to get in school. 112 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: Then they was like my dad was like you had 113 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 3: to grab with me every morning, you know, get dr 114 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna go 115 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: to Richards like I know everybody here, like you know 116 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, because we played our backyard when I 117 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 3: grew up, My backyard was a spot, you know what 118 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: I'm saying. That was like the that was like the garden. 119 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: Everybody from the neighborhood, coming hoop in our backyard. So 120 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 3: I knew everybody already. I knew all the I knew 121 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 3: all the hoopahs, I knew all the older classmens. I knew, 122 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: I knew everybody. So I was like, you know what, 123 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 3: I was gonna go ahead and go over here. 124 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 4: So speaking on Richards, right when you got the Richards, 125 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 4: he got to meet the legend my grade I'm serious, 126 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 4: my grade school coach, mister Gary Adams, legendary in my neighborhood. 127 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: I'm talking about in the Cooper Park my grade school Whistler. 128 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 4: He coached for I don't even know how many years, 129 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 4: but the whole Cooper Park area, no like missed Autams, 130 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 4: just legend. They respect old white dude got respect and 131 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 4: love in the hood. Loved this man to this day. 132 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 4: You know who missed out him? 133 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 3: Did? 134 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: So? 135 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 4: Just talk about the impact he had on you. At 136 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 4: Richard's as yo, he was an assistant coach coach. 137 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was assistant coach when I was a Richard. 138 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: So I used to when I was younger, with my brother, 139 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 3: I used to go to their practices, you know what 140 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 3: I mean, because my brother was kind of like babysitting 141 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: I guess right, So I had to go to their 142 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 3: practice and I'll just be sitting on the side, you know, 143 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 3: just watch them. Then after practice he always grabbed me 144 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: and be like, yo, doing come down here, let's get 145 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: some shots in whatever. So he started like building that 146 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: in me early, so when I got to school, like 147 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: it was just like an automatic, like, hey, d come on, 148 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: let's get some work in. So he kind of built 149 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: that that work habit in me that I didn't even know, 150 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: like that you needed, you know what I mean, to 151 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: go to the next level. And then from there he 152 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: started doing live things like hey, you know, find a player, 153 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: you know whatever, whoever's your favorite player, watch what they do, 154 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: and then let's work on it. So then Q Richard's 155 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 3: my favorite player, you know what I mean, because it 156 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: was somebody like size wise, I'm like, you know what, 157 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: we're about, the same eyes. And he had a relationship 158 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: with Q, so it became easy for me to be like, 159 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna follow Q. So we so with him, what 160 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 3: he did to me, like he took me to the 161 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: Paul Games, you know what I mean, He took me. 162 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 3: He took me to like kind of watch and see it. 163 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: And also so then and then we worked on whatever 164 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: we seen. Like I remember Q was an amazing rebounder, 165 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: so I was like, yo, I won't be a good rebound. 166 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: So we started working on certain ways of how like 167 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: the tricks of the trades, like what you need to do. 168 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: He had me so cold, bro, he had me doing 169 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: stuff that I ain't I ain't know that even existed. 170 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 4: What's funny is he the one who got me started 171 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 4: rebound like that? Like when we were you know, my 172 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 4: grade school team, we had a dope team, you know 173 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So he used to be like, you know, 174 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 4: we had two good guards. We had Michael Timberlay was 175 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 4: a center, he was like six four six five and 176 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 4: grade school, we had my cousin Nate, and like we 177 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 4: had a cool squad. So it was like, you know, 178 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 4: it was a lot of dudes to get get it. 179 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 4: And he used to be like, everybody can't get the ball. 180 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: He was like like, which one of y'all? You know 181 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 4: how you talk to You're gonna be a big dope 182 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 4: and you like, he's like, look what are you doing? 183 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: Like go get to go get a rebound. 184 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 4: He was like, nobody yet, ham My cousin they so 185 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 4: like he had a crew though, but it would used 186 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 4: to be like everybody can't shoot. He was like, which 187 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 4: one of you food is gonna be smart and just 188 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: say I don't need the ball. He was like, somebody, 189 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 4: you don't need anybody to give you this. Nobody can 190 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 4: take this from me. You the one who controlled that. 191 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 4: So I was like, man, like, you know what, that's 192 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 4: pretty smart right there. Let me just kind of figure 193 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 4: out a way to camp out under this glass and 194 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 4: I'm just try and get tippings and like, you know 195 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So then I started figuring that out, 196 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 4: and he was like, see he figured it out. He 197 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 4: was like the rest of y'all just want to shoot 198 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 4: the ball. He was like he right next to the basket. 199 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 4: That's the easiest place to score. And you know, ned 200 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,599 Speaker 4: just like you said, he would just give you a 201 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 4: little teed bits and just you know what I'm saying. 202 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 4: Leads to long like he was cold man. 203 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 3: He told me one summer he was like, it was 204 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: a summer going into my junior year, so no one 205 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 3: knew who I was at all, right, you know what 206 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: I'm saying, So I'm coming in. I played sophomore two 207 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: years in a row because my brother and had a 208 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 3: great varsity team a year and I couldn't get a 209 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: lot of time. So I actually played sophomore level two 210 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: years in a row. So coming to my junior year, 211 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 3: he said me down and he showed me this list. 212 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 3: It was a list of like all the top players. 213 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It was like, he was like, 214 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: who named don't you see on them? I'm going down 215 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: the list and everything, and I'm like, I don't know. 216 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: He's like your name. He's like, you ain't know. He's like, 217 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: you're not on anyone's radar. He was like. He was like, 218 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 3: so if you if you want to get here, if 219 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 3: you want to get to his level. He was like. 220 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: He was like, we're gonna put some work in the summer. 221 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 3: He was like, but I'll be at your house eight o'clock. 222 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: I'm gonna hit the horn one time. That's it, and 223 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: you don't come out. You don't want it, you know 224 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And it was on it and I 225 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 3: was always up ready, But it was one time where 226 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: I was, you know, I was old saying we had 227 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: no alarm clocks, we had nothing. It was one time 228 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: and I had to chase him all the way down 229 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 3: the street. He was gone. I had to chase him 230 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: all the ways down in the gray duty. Then he 231 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 3: upgraded to a great Saturn's just like you said, like, 232 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: but like he used to take us to the tournaments, 233 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 3: like when we' in grade school used to go to 234 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: you know, all of the Brother Rights tournament for seventh 235 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: and eighth grade teams and Saint Ignation Saint Rita pick 236 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 3: us up in the little grave buick. 237 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,599 Speaker 4: After the game we win the tournament, he stopped and 238 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 4: we get McDonald's. Boy, it was like Christmas. I'm telling you, Like, man, 239 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 4: Ana was that dude? 240 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 3: Bro. 241 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: I used to always wonder that because I was like, 242 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: I didn't play ninth grade only. I started playing high 243 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: school ball in tenth grade. And we was playing with Butler, 244 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: and you just came out of nowhere and you was 245 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: like good. Like I remember when me and Butler was 246 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: mad like man, no, d Wade supposed to. 247 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: Be in the night camp. We was like, I ain't 248 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: in night camp. He's killing every tournament. We weren't winning 249 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 2: the tournament, but we was kicking ass in them. 250 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep it real with you. I'm still hot 251 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 3: about that championships in later. I'm still hot about that. Bro. 252 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: Let me tell you something now. Now de mouths he's 253 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 3: our guy, right, he's the dude, you know what I'm saying. 254 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: But like, I don't feel like nobody else on the 255 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 3: team is like that much better than me. You know 256 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. Like TJ 257 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: was cool, cool, Like you know what I'm saying, back, 258 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 3: he get them up. We went and getting out of 259 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 3: go back and getting back, you know what I'm saying. 260 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 3: So we had some good players, But I'm like, but 261 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: the fact that we had like seven dudes off our 262 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 3: team to go to the night camp you know who 263 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: didn't go, that's crazy. But I'm gonna tell you, I 264 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: don't even know if you know this though. So Larry 265 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: told me I was going, but told me I was going. Yeah, 266 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: So I didn't have coach canceled all the little summer 267 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: tournaments that you playing because I'm like, coach, I'm going 268 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 3: to Nike Camp. So to the day he was supposed 269 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: to come pick me up, I'm at the crib. 270 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: Wait. 271 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 3: I got my bags and look at him. About an 272 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: hour late, about two hours late, Man and Man eventually 273 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: showed up and when I walk out the house, I'm like, 274 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 3: all right, y'all, I'm gone, and I see he got 275 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: his head down walking towards me. He's like, man, dde, Man, 276 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: I tried everything, Bro, but you know you ain't get 277 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: in Bro. I was heartbroken. 278 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 279 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 3: I didn't know that I was heartbroken. I don't even know. 280 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: You don't know, but I just know we was fighting, 281 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: like man, I'm in there, Like man, Bro's way better 282 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: than all. 283 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: These dudes, right, he ain't in Nike. He came and 284 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 2: we was killing him. Folks. Bro. 285 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 3: He's the murder Bro. They did me so wrong. But 286 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 3: after that, though, I can't. 287 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: What you like. 288 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. 289 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 4: Like because even as a sen he averaged like thirty 290 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 4: one his numbers. 291 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 2: He came out of nowhere, like out of nowhere. 292 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: It was like when I came, I didn't play ninth grade, 293 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: so I didn't think nobody knew me. I only played 294 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: two teams. We played six games. Eight games we played 295 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: two what they played and two. 296 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 2: I didn't think nobody even knew who I was. 297 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 3: I went to the spotlight with. 298 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: Butler, and next thing, you know, my ranking just went up, 299 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: like just went sky high. And now I'm playing in tournaments. 300 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: The first turn that I went to was the Purdue tournament. 301 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: I went went there and I met this when I 302 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: met Q them. So now I'm playing like the lower 303 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: level and I'm playing like the higher level with qto, 304 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm playing turn rooms. We killed them by playing the 305 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: low level. But you went on that team. It was 306 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: Juran's Howard and all that, Like it was it was 307 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: all them on the team. 308 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: Right. 309 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: So then the next year I went and did us 310 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: a but I was hearing a little bit about you, 311 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: but I didn't see you or so far far. So 312 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: then when I came back and played the next time 313 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: we played together, and then it was just like me 314 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: and my mom was coming around and she used to 315 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: be like d Wade this and that, Like I be 316 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: killing just d and d Wade. 317 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 3: Bro like it's crazy. So like like once we met, 318 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 3: like because I remember them telling me like, yo, we 319 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 3: got this dude from the Saint Louis whatever he nice. 320 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, cool, you know what I'm saying, 321 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: I'm due to this first year playing you never played 322 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 3: and then you know what I'm saying, we got a 323 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: chance to be around each other, and from that we 324 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: linked up. It was like me and it was me 325 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 3: and d Mount family, like somebody else in your room. 326 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: You're like, no, in the same room. And then maa 327 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 3: Miles and come and give us that wake up mau 328 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: Miles and come and wake us up. We'll go back 329 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: to sleep, come back in, get up. Yeah, we was 330 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: rolling and then too, like I listened, man, we was broke. 331 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: I ain't had no money. You know what I'm saying, 332 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: Like all broke together, broke. So you know some of 333 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: them you terms I'm out there with nothing in my podcast, 334 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. We all got the same thing. 335 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: I'm out there like, uh, you got a little little. 336 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: Remember the long layover in Chicago we had. 337 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: We had to stay in the little the midst of 338 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: hotel was so hot in the room that were just. 339 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: Sitting outside at the door. 340 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: But were just sitting there for like five hours, like 341 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: just talking all this stuff like YouTube. 342 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: Used to be beyond. And then seeing the good players. 343 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: It's crazy. It is like me been on that circuit. 344 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: I have never I never played at that level before, 345 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: even though I had confident in myself that I was 346 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: good enough but I had never played against like the 347 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: oh my cooks, you know what I mean. I didn't 348 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: even like them, them kind of dudes and exist and 349 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: the conference that I played in, you know what I'm saying. 350 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 3: So but when I got out there, I held my own, 351 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: but I did see a different level, you know what 352 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 3: I'm saying. Like then what I was playing with that 353 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: Richard so oh so that made me even go back 354 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 3: more so. I got a lot of work to do, 355 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: but I was coming. I was making ways with him. 356 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: I got a lot of works because these dudes out here. 357 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: I was Andre Barrett. 358 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, l Waller. 359 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: Remember the Eddie Griffin d Mouse showdown, Yeah. 360 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: Boy. 361 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: In New York. 362 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had like sixty went crazy on that, Bro, 363 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: I was right, that was just one. 364 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: I remember that always. What he was coming through. 365 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: I seen the price on his head. 366 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: Man, he dunked on them. 367 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: He was a number one player. I seen the price 368 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: on his head. I just had to just go at them. 369 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 5: Hall. 370 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 3: It was disrespectful, Bro, it was. It was great to watch. 371 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: Man. It's probably been over twenty years. We talked about 372 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: these stories and talked about just them. 373 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: Days with my mama coming in driving the van and 374 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And just all them days 375 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: we have, like I say, you came out of nowhere 376 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: and you was outside of me. Of course, you know 377 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You was the best player on the team. 378 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: Like we needed you. It had been a tougher summer 379 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: for us if we didn't have you. 380 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: And because you didn't come. 381 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: Up in the circuit, all the rest of these guys, 382 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: I'd never seen them for the last three years. I 383 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: was playing down and I was playing high, so they 384 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: was catching up to me. And once they caught up 385 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: to me from playing with q Nem because that's the 386 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: first group I played with, and like Qutenim showed me 387 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: a whole another level of Illinois basketball. 388 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: Like I heard about the Kg's. 389 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: The Ronnie Fields, the Benji's, all the great ones, you know, 390 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: the Tim Hardaways, the Antoine Walkers, all the great ones 391 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: from Chicago. But then when now I'm on I'm in 392 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: the high school level and I just come from playing 393 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: two teams to see how Qutenim roll q looked like 394 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: a superhero to me because he was the leader of 395 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: their crew. They were the best AAU team in the world. 396 00:16:53,600 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: And fo they players go to the same school they 397 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: a young I'm like, then, my school is on strike. 398 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: The first two months, like the whole August old September. 399 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: My school on strike. So they like, yeah, you might 400 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: as well come to with me. Hell, you're gonna win 401 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: a championship this year. We thought I was about to 402 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: go because we weren't even going to school. I went 403 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: to a tournament with them. We wasn't going to school, 404 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: and ship I was about to go and not trying 405 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: to change my mind and stay. 406 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: I was spooked. Big city, you know, too many buildings. 407 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: Ain't like that. 408 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: Down south, down south Illinois ain't like that. 409 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 410 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: I'd like to give a special shout out to Hargrove 411 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: Junior and East Saint Louis coaching staff. 412 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: They want state this year. 413 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: And another special shout out to little Brazil and his 414 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: family and j Ladell. 415 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: He won back to back state titles. 416 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: He won mister Basketball back to back years in Illinois, 417 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: which you know the history of Illinois and all the 418 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: killers and and shooters that came out of Illinois, that 419 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: was you're real good. And for him to win it 420 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: back to back in Illinois and say something he ain't 421 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: get the opportunity to. 422 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: Make the McDonald's game. 423 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: I know how important them them opportunity gets when you 424 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: get a chance to showcase yourself when people haven't seen you, 425 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: they just heard your name a lot. So what was 426 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: your thought of your thoughts on that him not making 427 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: it being back to back one of the best states. 428 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: Well, I asked about history. 429 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: Obviously that that makes no sense, Like you know what 430 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: I'm saying, I can't even compute that. You know what 431 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: I'm saying. It really makes no sense. You know, but 432 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 3: you're talking to somebody who didn't get to go to anything, 433 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And I tell my son 434 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 3: this all the time. It's like, you know what I'm saying, 435 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 3: Yes you want that, Honord, Yes you want those things. 436 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 3: I mean, that's in life. We always all of us 437 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: want it. We always want to be recognizing for what 438 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 3: we've done. But man, just continue to get motivation, like, Okay, 439 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 3: they don't believe, make them believe, you know what I'm saying, 440 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 3: And like it's unfortunate. I wish the kid got an opportunity. 441 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 3: I know you say in the iversing game, which is. 442 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: Great doing that. 443 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 3: Use that for motivation, young man. You know what I'm saying, like, 444 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 3: make sure they know like they go, they don't know 445 00:18:58,760 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 3: your name. 446 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: At some point we got to stop holding games like 447 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: that as the pedalestal of the success rate. Like Ali 448 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: iverson a Hall of famisduring the game and he have 449 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: real players and stuff come to the game, and Ali 450 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: Irrison being there with these kids is bigger. It's just 451 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: on the same level as a McDonald's game. I don't 452 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: want these kids to think like, oh, just because you 453 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: ain't make the McDonald I know it's a lot of 454 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: greats that playing in it, but it's a lot of 455 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: greats too that haven't played in it. So I just 456 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: want them kids to, you know, don't hold that as 457 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: the biggest bar. 458 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, And like d Wade said, you're looking at a 459 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 4: Hall of Famer who ain't said foot in the McDonald's game. 460 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 3: So that go your example. 461 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 4: He's reached the pinnacle, all Stars, all of those things, 462 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 4: got his own shoes, got his own fashion stuff, all 463 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 4: of that, and he ain't playing on McDonald's game. 464 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: So you know, you could do whatever you still need 465 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: to do, just keep going. 466 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, so tell me about you choosing Mark Utt 467 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 4: and when you you know that first year with you 468 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 4: sitting out? 469 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 3: How is that? Yeah, so just the process of well 470 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 3: market chows me. So being my guy, you knew I 471 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: was good, but the rest of the world still didn't 472 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 3: see how good I was. So I only had really 473 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 3: three scholarship offers, you know what I'm saying. I got 474 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 3: offered from Illinois State, I got offered from Bradley, I 475 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 3: got offered from Marquade, and DePaul was kind of like, 476 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 3: I don't even count them as a full offer because 477 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 3: q Rich coach came to my house talking about some Yeah, 478 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 3: you're not gonna plan to your junior year. I took 479 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: the visit because my guy was at the Paul. I 480 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 3: knew I was going there. I'm like. 481 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: The league, Yeah, the same exact reason. I took the 482 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: visit my guy. 483 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, am I going to take this visit? And 484 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 3: then I get there and I you know, they give 485 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 3: you the sheet you know what you're gonna do, and 486 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 3: I see my host ain't que Rich. I'm like, what 487 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: is going on? Why am I here? You turned I 488 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 3: was there and was like, Yo, you're here, bro. I'm like, yeah, 489 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 3: I'm here, Yo, I'm coming to get you. 490 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: Like. 491 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: So I had only had three scholarship offers pretty much. 492 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 3: And like for me, it was like Coach Crean was 493 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: so like his ash for turning that program around, his 494 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: passion for making me, helping me grow into a man, 495 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 3: his past, for graduation, like all these things he had 496 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: for me that no one never really told me before, 497 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like I seen his eyes 498 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 3: that he wanted something for me that maybe I didn't 499 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 3: even know I can have myself, and I was like, 500 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 3: for me, it was a no brainer. I knew to 501 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 3: forget the school. I knew the coach and the man 502 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 3: that I wanted to be around and to be with. 503 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 3: So I committed to Marquette, but I committed to Tom 504 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 3: Crane first, you know what I'm saying. So from there 505 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 3: it was a no brainer. But Marquette was actually the 506 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 3: first basket college game that I ever went to. Me 507 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 3: and Coach Adams went to a Marquette, Wisconsin college game. 508 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 3: We drove up and I never heard of Marquette before. 509 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: He was like, you want to go to the game. 510 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 3: I'm like yeah, He's like, We're gonna go this Marqutte 511 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 3: wiscons game. 512 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: Like who? 513 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 3: And we drove up, went to the game and I 514 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 3: seen see the l and they sucked too, but they 515 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 3: had like fifteen points a halftime. They were terrible, but 516 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: I was there, like I never seen it, you know 517 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So to be able to see a 518 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 3: college game, to be able to be exposed to a 519 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 3: different college that I didn't even know that right up 520 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 3: the street from the crib. So when they started recruiting me, 521 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 3: I was looking even more, like, you know, he's on 522 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 3: the circuit. I see Marquette. Look, you know the polos, 523 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 3: and I see them in all my games. I'm like, okay, 524 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 3: that ship. 525 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: I know that. 526 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: That was the first college game, first college game I 527 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 3: went to. 528 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: The first college game I ever went to My auntie's 529 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: best friend son got a scholarship to Mark Kutt and 530 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: he was played for Marquette. And the first college game 531 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: I went to was more Kid in Saint Louis. You 532 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: I say, that's the first college game, kid game. 533 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 3: So that was you know what I'm saying. That was 534 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: my my process there. Man, It was like once I 535 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 3: got there, and then like before that, so I committed, 536 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 3: me and old d'Arte blankson. So Darte and him committed 537 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 3: together to Marquette. You know, what I'm saying, because me 538 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 3: and no Dark, actually, me and No Dark played together 539 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 3: when we was in like sixth grade. We played in 540 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 3: this little, this little local thing in Blue Island. 541 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: Right. 542 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 3: He was that dude, and I wasn't getting over. 543 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: Dante was nice. 544 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 3: He was nice. 545 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: He was just too cool. 546 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 3: He was so cool. He was so cool. Well, I 547 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 3: remember like being a lead, like a little kid. I'm 548 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 3: I'm on the bench watching O Dartel. He was like 549 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 3: the man on the team. And then as we go 550 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: to high school, we competing against each other. He go 551 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 3: to Hillcrasts I go to Richard. So we play against 552 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 3: each other every time we play againstch other, both of 553 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: us getting thirties whatever. But he still was better than 554 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 3: me in the eyes of everybody. He was taller, you 555 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. He had you know, he could shoot, 556 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,239 Speaker 3: he could do different stuff. I couldn't do it at 557 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 3: the time. So then we played Larry Butler together. We 558 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: played with Illinois Warriors together, and so we got this 559 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 3: bar and we're like, bro, what you thinking? He was 560 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: like man Mark had one of my teams. I'm like, bro, 561 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: mine too, Let's go there. So we committed the Marquette 562 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 3: together at the same time and around that time too, 563 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 3: Like I remember I was trying to pass my ACT, 564 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 3: so I was, Man, I took the ACT test about 565 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 3: five times and had all kind of study halls everything, Bro, 566 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 3: I could not pass it for nothing, man. So Krean 567 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 3: was like, Coach Crean's like, Yo, no matter what, we 568 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 3: still want you to come here, we still want you 569 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 3: to be a part of this or whatever. So that 570 00:23:58,520 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 3: meant so much to me though. So it was a 571 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 3: brain of daughter. I just I was like, I'm going 572 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 3: to mar cat Man. 573 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 4: Let me just say about the ACT test, bro, Like, literally, 574 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 4: this is no lies told. Like our coached at Whinney Young. 575 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 4: You know Whennie Young was a magnet school, all that 576 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 4: education driven. So coach Stan, you know a lot of 577 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: kids wait until their senior year to start taking the 578 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 4: test and they now used to taking the test and 579 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 4: all that. So Coach Dan deal with us. He had 580 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 4: all of us start taking the test at sophomores. You 581 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, sign up, we taking the test. 582 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 2: Bro. 583 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 4: I took the test and got like an eighteen as 584 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 4: a sophomore. Now mind, you just shows you that this 585 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 4: test ain't really you know, it's to me, it's flawed 586 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 4: because I didn't really take the test. I was just like, man, 587 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 4: I'm just about to feel this, ain't I ain't really 588 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 4: I ain't got to take this. I'm just trying to 589 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 4: put feel out and then take me a quick nap 590 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 4: and you feel me for the next brug got an 591 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 4: eighteen bro said, I'm never taking the test again. I'm 592 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 4: taking you need a seventeen and a two point five. 593 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 4: It's done like you feel me like, And it was 594 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 4: like some people just get nervous at taking ask and 595 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 4: it's not that they, you know what I'm saying, not 596 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 4: smarter whatever. Some people have problems taking like a three 597 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 4: hour test, and it's just, you know what I'm saying, 598 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 4: people minds work different to. 599 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: Me, Like that's half I'm and I'm talking about like 600 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 3: I had. 601 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 4: Friends that when you young, you know, there was like 602 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 4: honor student that was not doing well on these tests 603 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,239 Speaker 4: on a essays. It was pressure and stuff like that. 604 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 4: So it's like those tests are not like. 605 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 3: You know, you needed to go to the next level, 606 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 3: like I need this test. 607 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: I got to test taking that joint every weekend. 608 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: I was like, man, we wasting our time. 609 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 3: Like you know, they combine your scores from the first test. 610 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 3: They'd be like, listen, all you got to do is 611 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 3: get a seventeen on this one in the seventh. I 612 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 3: couldn't get that. It was too many fifteen's going on 613 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 3: on my. 614 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: Test in March, Madness, you took more cat to the attorney. 615 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: Tell us about that that experience the school, Like markt 616 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: they probably ain't been to the tourney in a minute, 617 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: but y'all, yeah, I took him to the term and 618 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: made some noise run to the four. Yeah, that's what 619 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like mad. 620 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 3: In this day too. That was big, bro. I mean 621 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 3: you know obviously you know, going to Marquet when I 622 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 3: went there, Brian Water was now the coach. Brian Water 623 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 3: was the man on the team at the time, and 624 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 3: see there was still like see you know, hard headed, 625 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: stubborn sea there not buying in yet light. Yeah, yeah, 626 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So they wasn't good. I 627 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 3: never first of all, I'm never I've never seen a 628 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 3: coach on the player as much as as coach Crean was. 629 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 3: Don't see them to the point where I'm not even 630 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 3: going like hes gonna break. He ain't gonna make it, Bro, 631 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 3: but so we were That team was terrible, right, you know, 632 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: from the standpoint of like talent wise, it just didn't 633 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: have a lot of talent. Play hard will coach doesn't 634 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 3: have a lot of talent. So I remember I set 635 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 3: out that whole year and I got a chance to 636 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 3: like practice with the guys. That's when I really knew 637 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 3: I can go to the next level, because honestly I was. 638 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 3: I feel like I was better than. 639 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 4: Everybody would tell you, like I would talk to I 640 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 4: would talk to see that like you know, I mean, 641 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna lead my own teammates. 642 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: But when I was killing you, they would. 643 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 4: Put him on the scout team. See that would tell 644 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 4: me every other every time, you know how much I 645 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 4: talked to see you every day every week? All they 646 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 4: see that'll be like bro, like bro, like d wade 647 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 4: out of here at the next year, Like bro, if 648 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 4: he was playing this year, we would be so cold. 649 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 4: He like this dude be murdering everybody, like we'll be 650 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 4: playing together because he could practice. He just can't play 651 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 4: like dog practice. 652 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 3: So at that point, like and I'm like, oh, I 653 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 3: can go to you know, I don't know the game time, 654 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 3: but like one thing, coach Crane did to me too. 655 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 3: He'll bring in so, like say Doctor Rivers coming town. 656 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: They playing the Bucks. Doc Rivers told come in, he'd 657 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 3: come to practice, he'll teach me something. He'd come and 658 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 3: talk to me. Everybody who came in. Coach Crean made 659 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 3: sure I got FaceTime with him. I didn't know he 660 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 3: was molding me, you know, for something bigger. So when 661 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 3: I got a chance the next year to finally take 662 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 3: the court, you know, obviously I was just excited to play. 663 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 3: But like right away, I'm thirty balls, boom, boom, I'm like, wait, 664 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 3: hold on, right, hold on, you know what I'm saying. 665 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 3: So right off, first game thirty, I'm like, oh, you 666 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But the summer before that, man, 667 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 3: we worked so hard. Dog. When I'm telling anybody, you 668 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 3: asking Mark, Coach Crean was a mad man this summer 669 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 3: that team got invite to the n I T. He said, no, 670 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 3: we're not taking the bed to go to n I T. 671 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 3: We're gonna work, bro. He worked us so hard to 672 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 3: the point where, like before we work out, your heart 673 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 3: is just beating real fast. You don't know what's gonna happen. 674 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: You listening to me, you love. You know, we had 675 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 3: the little sparrow staircase. You listening, you hear him going off, 676 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: You like, dang, he mad today. But he was building 677 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 3: something in us, you know what I'm saying. For us 678 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 3: to go from nothing to something, we had to have 679 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,719 Speaker 3: this toughness, you know, this mental toughness that was stronger 680 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 3: than anything. And he was building something else was Bro. 681 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: He worked us so hard, and once I got in 682 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: the games, Bro, the game was a breeze, you know, 683 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 3: like chance, this is a breeze, big fella, you know 684 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So we got out there, man, we 685 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: just slowly, like see, they all started to buy in, 686 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 3: and he started hooping my first year playing. See that 687 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: was last year he was hooping. 688 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: Bro. 689 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 3: I was the most time to play on our team. 690 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 3: But see that was the best player on our team. 691 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 3: And we went to the tournament that first year. Like 692 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 3: we we got ourselves in the position when we was 693 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 3: a fifth seed in the tournament. You know what I'm saying. 694 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: We feeling good, Marque been here in a while, me 695 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 3: and see there from the crib. We didn't build something. 696 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 3: We were talking a lot of stuff. We get smacked 697 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 3: first game that twelve five seed. They smack us, but 698 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: we built something, you know what I'm saying. So like that, man, 699 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 3: who was it? I don't even know, Bro, there's a 700 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: twelve seed. Bro, we even know who they was. The 701 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 3: next round, which was Kentucky, We like, yo, we're gonna 702 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: play Kentucky. We just think we got We thought we've 703 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: been there. You know what I'm saying that we got 704 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 3: a rude awakening. Man, this is March. So we so 705 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 3: we had started building something, you know what I'm saying. 706 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 3: We got to the tournament that year and then the 707 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: next year come back, like you know what I'm saying, 708 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 3: Like obviously I'm coming back. We got a lot of 709 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: like it coming freshmen coming in Dean or Steve Novada. 710 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: We got these good young guys coming in. We just 711 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 3: kept building, man, to the point where you know, obviously 712 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 3: we went to the final four. But like the work 713 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 3: that we put in behind the scenes was like to 714 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 3: build that school to where it is today. It was tough, bro, 715 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, But like it was worth 716 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 3: that honestleep. But you know what I'm saying, just the 717 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: same things, just like Richards, just like you know, like 718 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 3: I always had to make my way, and people still 719 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 3: didn't get me my due, and they just kept driving me. 720 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I was like, all right, 721 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like they don't get my due, Kentucky, 722 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 3: take this triple double. You know what I mean? What 723 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 3: y'all want? What else can I do? You know what 724 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 3: I'm saying to let y'all know that I'm for real. 725 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: Do you remember that key moment where that season kind 726 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: of turned, where y'all made their run to. 727 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: Go to the final four in the conference tournament. First game, 728 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 3: we number one seed, we got smacked, smacked. I had 729 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 3: a terrible game, but I had like ten turnoffs. I 730 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 3: had a triple double the wrong way. Oh and boy, 731 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 3: when I tell you all we had was practice time. 732 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 3: Coach Creen was on us dog, he lit in tours. 733 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 3: But we need did that, you know what I'm saying. 734 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: We wanted to. 735 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 3: We needed that because like last time we was in 736 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 3: the turn, we went in with a big head. You 737 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, we go we got this. This 738 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 3: time we went in nervous. You know what I'm saying. 739 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 3: We was a third seed going in, but we was 740 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: we were nervous of like what could happen. Right, So, 741 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 3: but that was a turning point when we got to 742 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 3: that Conrace tournament. We got smacked by the day the 743 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 3: last seedon the tournament of the eighth seed or whatever 744 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 3: the case may be, and we got our mind right, 745 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 3: got our game together, went to that tournament that did work. 746 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 4: After that, obviously, you know, had the great run. Then 747 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 4: you get drafted by Miami like theft. 748 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, but wait, let's let's talk about before that. Let's 749 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 3: talk about like our conversations that we had. So I'm 750 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 3: going through that year, right, and like, of course I 751 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 3: want to go to the league. But still I'm like, 752 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 3: no one is really talking about me like that. Right. 753 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 3: So I'm on the phone with Q and were just 754 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 3: talking about the league, and every day I'm living through y'all. 755 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying with y'all out there. Do 756 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I'm living through y'all. You 757 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,239 Speaker 3: know what I mean? I want this, I want that. Actually, well, 758 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 3: Q told me one day, he was like, Bro, He's 759 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 3: like I just went into the you know, saying the office, 760 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 3: your name was on the tray. I was like what 761 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, Bro, like you one of the top 762 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 3: guards I'm like, for real, I'm like, you think I 763 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: can come out? You know what I'm saying. So we 764 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 3: talking were going back and forth, and that's for me, 765 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 3: like outside of like I never talked about with Coach Crane, 766 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 3: Like we we never talked about the NBA. We was 767 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 3: focused on cars. But like on this other end, I had, 768 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 3: you know, I had a guy in the least. So 769 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, he giving me this confidence that, bro, you 770 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: could play at this level. He played this league whatever. 771 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 3: So I'm like, cool, let me just get through this tournament. There, 772 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 3: I'm out, you know what I'm saying. But like before 773 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 3: I even got to the point of entering the draft, 774 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 3: it was big for me to be able to have 775 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 3: somebody that I was close to tell me what the 776 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 3: NBA level was about without you know, Coach Creane on 777 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 3: about it. He wasn't playing that. We were focused on 778 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 3: agent early inside track early. So obviously I go through that, 779 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 3: we go to the final four, and I still haven't 780 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 3: had this conversation with Coach Crean yet because like you 781 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 3: know what I mean, like that he was like a 782 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 3: father figured me, and I'm a little nervous to tell him, 783 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 3: like I'm out. So we got to go to the 784 00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 3: Wooden Awards. 785 00:32:59,400 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: We gotta go to. 786 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 3: I wouldn't was I wanted the finalists. And it's in LA, 787 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 3: and I'm nervous because, like I talked to my assistant coach, 788 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 3: Dwanne Stevens, who was now sits coach at Michigan State, 789 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 3: and I talked to him. He's like, Yo, you gotta 790 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 3: have a conversation with him. Did you got to let 791 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 3: him know you gone? I'm like all right. So We're 792 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 3: sitting on the plane the whole ride together. I want 793 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 3: to say it, but I'm nervous. I'm like, I know 794 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 3: your person, I know you. You know how quiet I was. 795 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So we the whole five 796 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 3: hour flight, I don't say nothing to him. Bro. So 797 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 3: we laying in l A like before I went to 798 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 3: my room. He was like, yo, He's like, come, he 799 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: let me have a moment with you, and he like 800 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 3: eased my mind. He was like, we out here in LA. 801 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do a little research, you know. He's like, 802 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 3: my goal was always that you be a lottery pick. 803 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 3: He's like, so if I'm here, you're gonna be a 804 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 3: lottery pick. I'm hold true to my world and heavy 805 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 3: pack your bags because he always told me, if you're 806 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 3: gonna be a lottery pick, I have you pack your back. 807 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 3: So because the year before, like I wanted to leave 808 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 3: the school because they was running us too hard, Like, son, 809 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 3: you're not ready, right, He's like, you can't here to 810 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 3: be a lottery but you ain't come here to go 811 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 3: on the late first. So we got to l A. 812 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 3: He told me that ease my mind. You know what 813 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I'm out here to Wood and the Woods. 814 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 3: I'm out there with TJ. Ford, David West, the College, 815 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 3: Hollis Price that was our five finals or whatever. You 816 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So I'm out that jacket with them, 817 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, we're going to 818 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 3: the league. You know, I'm talking all that lead talk. Really, 819 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 3: I don't really know if I'm going, and I'm still 820 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 3: nervous to have a real conversation. But then we out there, 821 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 3: I wound up calling Q. Y'all was gone, y'all was 822 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 3: on the road. He was like, Yo, I'm gonna send 823 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 3: Rio to pick you up. You know what I'm saying. Whatever, 824 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 3: So real, come pick me up, take me to TGI 825 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 3: Friday it would have been like the spot he like, 826 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 3: he was like, yo, you know, he got you. So 827 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 3: then we go there, we hang out in TGI Fridays 828 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 3: and then we go back to Q Crib. Right, so 829 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 3: we're Q Crib. We bowled, we do some bowling and 830 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 3: all that, and then we go back to Q Crib 831 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 3: and like, I get a chance of going this closet 832 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 3: on Q closet, you know what I mean. I'm with 833 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 3: Lee nin right now, but at the time, you know 834 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 3: what I mean, que and you guys is with Jordan, 835 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 3: and I remember going in this closet, bro and I'm 836 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 3: just in there like like the music so I'm talking 837 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 3: to you. You know I might have I might have 838 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 3: heard it or something, but you know, I'm quiet. I 839 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 3: am ready said that was like, may go in and 840 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: grab you something. You know. On the phone, He's like, 841 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 3: go grab you something. Man. Well I wasn't that one 842 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 3: when I was in that closet. And then like the 843 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 3: thing was too like he was number three, like I 844 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 3: were number three. So everything had my number on All 845 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 3: the sneaks have my number on it, you know what 846 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I only had like something amount I 847 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 3: could take back, so I packed a couple of pair 848 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 3: of shoes, a couple of sweatsuits. I took them back 849 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 3: to Marquet, you know what I'm saying. So I get 850 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 3: back to campus, I'm stunned. I put on the Georgiana 851 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 3: sweatsuit right away. 852 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 2: They made these with member come back. 853 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, they want me. I'm like, you know, 854 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 3: I'm walking on campus stunning. It ain't mine at all, 855 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 3: but they don't know, pointing my shoes with the three 856 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 3: on it like. 857 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 2: That. 858 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 3: But like the thing was cool before I got there. 859 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 3: So we go through l a bro. I get like 860 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,959 Speaker 3: last in the wood in the wards, I'm like, Phil, 861 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 3: I was. I was shocked. Honestly, I was shocked. 862 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 5: And I was feeling like Phil, you know, I mean, 863 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 5: I'm like, damn holl Is Price, okay, man, you know 864 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 5: he was on my team and like you camp, he 865 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 5: was nice. 866 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 3: He was nice home man, but was like for Field. 867 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 3: We look at each other like man, this bulls. You 868 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But like, so we go through 869 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 3: that bro, then we go back. I go back to Milwaukee. 870 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 3: Coach like we gotta get back. I gotta go to class. 871 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 3: Get all this, you gotta go to class. So we 872 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 3: get back, and Coach about to drop me off in 873 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 3: my little apartment because I had to move off campus 874 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 3: because I had a son, Ziera, was born when I 875 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 3: was in school. So I'm about to get out the 876 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 3: car and I still ain't really told him, like Coach, 877 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 3: I'm out. I don't care what, but I'm out. And 878 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 3: then like I'm about to get out the car, and 879 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 3: he was like, yoah, wait hold on, and he put 880 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 3: his hand out and he was in there. He was 881 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 3: just like good luck. He's like, I'll be over to 882 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 3: heavy back your bags that like you out of here. 883 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, He's like, but you're gonna finish school. 884 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,479 Speaker 3: Ain't gonna tell nobody you're going to class. You're gonna finish. 885 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 3: You're gonna tell nobody this, you know what I'm saying. 886 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 3: So that was the process and the whole journey before 887 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 3: I got a chance to get to the draft and 888 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 3: get to my workouts, you know, and eventually get drafted 889 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 3: by the Heat. 890 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: You was one of the best drafts ever, like mellow 891 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: Lebron and you hold it your own through your career. 892 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: What you thought about Miami picking you up, it was 893 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 1: a shuffle. You knew there was all these superstar players 894 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: in this draft, and this draft could be one of 895 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: the most specialist drafts ever. But like you said, you 896 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,240 Speaker 1: want to it was like ify on you, he maybe 897 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: can be good. 898 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 3: They was like Lebron and Mellow, like d Wade can 899 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 3: go from four to twenty. Yeah, I didn't know. They said, 900 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 3: you want dark old, dark old, militant. I want Mellow, 901 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 3: I want Lebron. So outside of there, now you can 902 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 3: go even Chris, Like I mean, I heard about Chris, 903 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 3: but we didn't know. I didn't know how high Chris 904 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 3: was gonna go. He was young, he was talented, but 905 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 3: you know, didn't really know. But all I know is 906 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 3: they was like d Wade go anywhere from for to twenty. 907 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 3: So I'm at the draft like, well, I guess we're 908 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 3: gonna see what's gonna happen. But I did think that 909 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 3: I was going to Chicago, you know what I'm saying. 910 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 3: Chicago had the seventh pick. I worked out for the 911 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 3: Bulls twice. It was a lot of chatter about me 912 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 3: going to Bulls. They needed a guard. You know. That's 913 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 3: when the summer after Jay Will had the motorcycle accident, 914 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 3: so they had just lost him as the PG they 915 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 3: needed a guard. So I'm like cool, like I'm going 916 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 3: to Chicago. So I'm actually kind of sitting there like 917 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 3: I'm going seven, you know what I'm saying. So my agent, 918 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 3: Henry Thomas, he had Chris bossaying me, so Chris get 919 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 3: draft fourth. So he go to Chris table, Chris get 920 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 3: draft fourth. And I'm sitting there like, yeah, Chris, boy, 921 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 922 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how when he got for me, I had 923 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 4: a longer wait here longer, but yeah, boy, you know 924 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 925 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 3: And so then I'm sitting there, I'm chilling. And then 926 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 3: my agent, you know, hain't coming and he sit right here, 927 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 3: but I'm waiting because I'm going seven. I'm sitting there like, okay, 928 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 3: who next. Miami got five, and he you know, he 929 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 3: was like, yo, d what's up. He's like, Miami about 930 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 3: to take you in five? I say, I lost, everything 931 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 3: went numb, Everything went numb, bro, Like you know what 932 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like my, my, everything that I've been through, 933 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 3: Just like I'm like, I'm about to be the fifth 934 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 3: pick in the draft. You know what I'm saying. Everything 935 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 3: that I'd have been through this point like now I'm 936 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 3: about to be picking in the draft. It was crazy, Bro. 937 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 3: So I've never been in Miami before obviously, like I 938 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 3: worked out here, but like I came in real late 939 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 3: at night and left. 940 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 2: Out, yeah, right right after. 941 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 3: So I didn't know nothing about Miami. 942 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 4: And we wasn't one of them dudes that coming out 943 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 4: there was active, got people in the city. 944 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 3: Take that in the hotel. In the hotel, you work 945 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 3: out gone, you know what I'm saying. So I ain't 946 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 3: know nothing about Miami. Bro, I get drafted Miami, I'm 947 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 3: going back. I talked to Pat and the only thing 948 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 3: I asked Pat was can I get number three? And 949 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 3: he was like, no, the veteran got it. You gotta 950 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 3: get another number. That's the only thing I remember. And 951 00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 3: I was like all right, So, like you know what 952 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 3: I'm saying, I really know what to say. I'm like, 953 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 3: just Pat round, I'm like, can I get them in three? 954 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 3: And so then the journey began. Bro. I came down 955 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 3: here the next day and I remember flying in, Bro 956 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 3: and like looking at the water. You know what I'm saying, 957 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 3: Like you have the city and I'm like, what is this. 958 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 3: I'm from Chicago. I just left the Milwaukee. Yeah, what 959 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 3: is this? You know what I'm saying. I'm walking out. 960 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 3: I get out and I see people got little dogs 961 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 3: walking with Louviiton bags and clothes on, and I'm like, 962 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 3: what is going What is this? You know, what kind 963 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 3: of city is this? So it was like, man, it 964 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 3: blew my mind. Like being here was like a foreign 965 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 3: country was bizarre to me, you know what I'm saying, 966 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 3: Like something you want to hear about. 967 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: People speaking Spanish, different languages, different type of cultures, foods, everything, everything. 968 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 3: Bro, it was like you didn't know the world I 969 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 3: knew it was so full, you know what I'm saying. 970 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 3: Point me to you know what I'm saying, the pork 971 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 3: chops with the bread, and point me to the fried chicken. 972 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 3: Like I don't know nothing about all this, you know, 973 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 3: quood and nothing. 974 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 2: Bro. 975 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 3: So I came down here. It was a shell shot, 976 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So the only thing I 977 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 3: did was I just put my head down and went 978 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 3: to work. You know what I'm saying. I ain't even 979 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 3: get involved in in everything, but I pulled my head 980 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 3: down and went to work. As I sit here right 981 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 3: now thinking back to the first time that I came 982 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 3: down here with you guys, and this old summer grew. 983 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 3: Y'all remember that we had came from Orlando and we 984 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 3: had this summer league. I twitched my ankle, so I 985 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 3: couldn't plan this though summer. But I remember being here 986 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 3: with y'all, was on the bench, and I was like, 987 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 3: but this was my you already know, I thought, And 988 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 3: I had like a little like when when everybody's walking 989 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 3: the headbands, rocking the head bands off the court. Now 990 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 3: it was like a thing. I remember sitting here. That 991 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 3: was my first you know, I'm in the lead moment. 992 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 3: Like we're sitting on the bench. We had the summer grool. 993 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 3: I'm next to both of y'all. I'm like, y'all next 994 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 3: to my boy. I'm in the league. Like I'm out there. 995 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 3: I'm looking at everybody. I'm like, this is crazy, you 996 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. We go out that night, we 997 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 3: go to Opium. We go to Opium. Q got this 998 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 3: big limb always you. 999 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. 1000 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, Yo, this is real. Like I'm here, like 1001 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 3: y'all understand, Like this was crazy to me. Bro. 1002 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,919 Speaker 1: He had a chicken popex. But you know, first round, 1003 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: it's the first round. I couldn't wait till next year. 1004 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 3: I remember just like we were going out. I remember 1005 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 3: having my beat. I remember Q like you know he 1006 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 3: Q go. He take it straight off quick. He wants 1007 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 3: to show all his muscles and everything. So we in 1008 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 3: the club. Q got his beter on, so you know, 1009 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 3: I take mine on my beat. We in there. I 1010 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 3: meet up this first time I met Eddie Jones, first 1011 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 3: time I met Zoel, the first time I met everybody. 1012 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I remember was telling me 1013 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 3: he's like yo, because I wanted into going out. You know, 1014 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 3: I was into the church thing. I had a family, young, 1015 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 3: I was married, and he was like, Yo, this is 1016 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 3: your city. I couldn't believe he's like yo, every Sunday 1017 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 3: in your city, you know what I'm saying. And I 1018 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 3: just being a kid, like its just up, you know 1019 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Wow, the whole the world, whole nother world. Bro. 1020 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: You played with Hall of famers and legends like you 1021 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: played from Lamar Oldham, Antoine Walker, Shack, Zoel, like you said, 1022 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: Eddie Jones, lelebron He white Chocolate. You can go on 1023 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 1: and on and on from all them minds that you 1024 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: got something to take a piece of them off. You know, 1025 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: you can rub to get in the gym and get 1026 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: with somebody and kind of get a piece of they 1027 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: IQ and kind of added to your stuff. 1028 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 2: But you got the opportunity to play with a lot 1029 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 2: of players. 1030 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: What is something that one of them players that you 1031 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: got off of them, or two of them that you 1032 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: got from them that you like, this stuck with me 1033 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: longer than any other thing that stuck with me with 1034 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: any other player. 1035 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 3: The three individual players would be shocked. So and Lebron 1036 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,320 Speaker 3: it was probably the three I took the most from Shaq. 1037 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 3: I was so quiet. I was introvert, Like I didn't 1038 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 3: talk much. I didn't let my person on the show. 1039 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 3: Shot kind of opened me up, you know what I'm saying. 1040 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 3: When he gave me the nickname Flash, and you know 1041 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like I bought into the Flash character, 1042 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 3: and like he started opening me up. So I started 1043 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,240 Speaker 3: being more like, you know, I started speaking for myself. 1044 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 3: I start saying what I wanted, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1045 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 3: I started being a little I had a little more 1046 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 3: posized to my leader, to myself. Yeah, so he kind 1047 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 3: of brought that side out of me. You know, Alonzo 1048 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 3: brought off the y'all know, Zoe, he brought out the 1049 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,760 Speaker 3: you know, you got to take care of your body. 1050 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 3: You need a chef, you needed this, you needed that, 1051 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 3: you in his size. 1052 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 2: Like. 1053 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 3: So eventually, once I started to listen, because at first 1054 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 3: I was young, I don't need none of that. Once 1055 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,800 Speaker 3: I started listening, I was like, Okay, Zoe said, I 1056 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 3: gotta do this. I gotta do that because my body. 1057 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, this right here, this is everything. 1058 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, this, don't go right there. 1059 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 3: I can make that investment because this is gonna help 1060 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 3: me make this you know what I'm saying, Like, if 1061 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 3: I make an investment of spending five hundred k on 1062 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 3: my body with all this stuff, it's gonna help me 1063 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 3: make millions of dollars later. So mentally was important, you know, 1064 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 3: in my life. And then Wellbron just being around him, 1065 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 3: I've never seen nobody work as hard as he did, 1066 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying from the standpoint like on 1067 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 3: his body, and then how like how he played in 1068 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 3: the games and how he practiced. You know, I didn't. 1069 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 3: I never was a good practice player. I was I 1070 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 3: was terrible. If they gave us contracts out of being 1071 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,359 Speaker 3: a practice player, I would have been the lowest paid 1072 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 3: person in the league. 1073 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 1: Coach Hamman were just seeing him and he was like, man, 1074 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: when I first seen you, when I saying you practiced, 1075 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: he was like, you was all a lot of I 1076 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: was like, he straight out high school. 1077 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 2: He ain't gonna be shipped, he said. 1078 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,720 Speaker 1: Then we got to the games, he said he always 1079 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: used to tap Ava Gentry like, hey, put the miles in. 1080 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 2: Put the miles. 1081 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 3: He was a gamer, you know what I'm saying. 1082 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: So just the practice I never could get with the 1083 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 1: camps Rema. I used to come off camp and I 1084 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: used to see be like, yeah, I ain't do nothing 1085 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: to camp. Everybody out there gunning and I just don't 1086 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: want to be into involved in that, you know what 1087 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 1088 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 3: So so I got that was for me. Saying that 1089 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 3: with Brin was like up closing person was like, this 1090 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 3: is a It's a different level, you know what I'm saying, 1091 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 3: than like you normally see. So those three guys kind 1092 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 3: of opened my mind up to something different than I 1093 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 3: actually seen on a daily basis, every every time. 1094 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 2: So those probably the three like your first championship. 1095 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: You had Antoine Walker, Gary Payton, White Chocolate Shack, So 1096 00:45:48,960 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: you had like you grew up watching them, right, the legendary, 1097 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: but you grew up watching them your first championship. To 1098 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: go through that and win a championship with them players, 1099 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: what did that mean to you? 1100 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 3: That was unreal? Bro, when Ros made them move to 1101 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 3: bring everybody in first of my first year, Like, I 1102 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 3: was just having fun. I'm a kid in but I'm 1103 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 3: playing with one of the coolest dudes in the league, Bro, 1104 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 3: one of the coolest dudes in They were ever you 1105 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, I'm just I'm just happy 1106 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 3: to be here. 1107 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:26,359 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1108 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 3: You always have, always have to be always putting you 1109 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 3: on games. Sitting by him on the plane told me 1110 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 3: on so much script, Bro, And I played with Koran, 1111 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,839 Speaker 3: my guy CB. He taught me other things away from 1112 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 3: the game of how to be professional, how to be this. 1113 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 3: You know, I had guys that was like cool and 1114 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 3: like dope, and we were just having fun. We went 1115 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 3: from being a terrible team to a good team at 1116 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 3: some point, and I just enjoyed being in the NBA 1117 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,720 Speaker 3: making some noise and then trade happens. Shot come to Miami, 1118 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 3: everything changes, Mama. 1119 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ryan was a killer. 1120 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember, Bro, Larry Butler, listen, 1121 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 3: we're about to play karanam Au, right, Larry, but have 1122 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 3: a meeting with the team, you know, in the hotel 1123 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 3: before we go playing. He started telling us about Karan 1124 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 3: and like heatn went to jail and all kinds of 1125 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 3: stuff about I'm nervous now I'm now I'm nervous a 1126 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 3: little bit. He's a real killer, like he in jail 1127 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 3: because he didn't anybody shake somebody, like you know what 1128 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 3: I mean, So we're not we about to go play 1129 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 3: this man. And then he had a deep voice, you 1130 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 3: know what I mean, like I'm you know what I'm saying, 1131 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 3: Like you know they got that uncle. 1132 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 2: He was bro. 1133 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 3: So then I'm coming to the league. I'm like, I 1134 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 3: don't really know. But he was so cool man. So 1135 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,800 Speaker 3: he took me on the you know, first day, he 1136 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 3: took me on his wing, bro right away, which was 1137 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 3: dope to be able to go from that. Then the 1138 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 3: next thing he was like, hey, shot, here it's time 1139 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 3: to win the championship. I'm like, wait, wait what now 1140 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 3: I just get here, you know, what I'm saying. You 1141 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 3: know how it go. Yeah, got up in the big 1142 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 3: truck and said, I gotta put some work in. 1143 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,839 Speaker 1: I had a veteran pieces with U n D right 1144 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,919 Speaker 1: being the babies on that team. Man, I just thought 1145 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 1: that was amazing for you to win m v P, 1146 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: for them, veteran players to be in the point of 1147 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 1: their career, to be excited, for you not to be 1148 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: selfish in y'all looked like a whole team. I remember 1149 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: an interview you did and he was like, man, they 1150 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: was looking at us when Zoe dunked in and hollerd 1151 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: like the game over when we winning and you and 1152 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: y'all was feeling like, oh no, we're finna win the 1153 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: championship now, like we're finsa come back and we got them. 1154 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 4: Hey, look, Bud, I got a crazy story during that run. 1155 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 4: Do you remember the Chicago series when y'all came to 1156 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 4: my crib and y'all had a one look bro. 1157 00:48:53,120 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 3: So so you know, I had the big house out 1158 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 3: in Chicago out south. Let's not get a twisted look, 1159 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 3: you know we we we when somebody started to start. 1160 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 4: With you know ship, you know, yeah, I know, so 1161 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 4: we're kicking it whatever the d Wade and I'm like, yeah, Bro, 1162 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 4: so so what you're doing. I'm like, man, Bro, I'm 1163 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 4: about to I told him. I'm like, I'm having like 1164 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 4: a little barbecue slash party. I'm like, look, bro, I 1165 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 4: know y'all play earlier. More like He's like, don't know, 1166 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 4: that's cool. You know we're gonna slide through four minutes 1167 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 4: and get up out of there, right bro, And now 1168 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 4: as you d Wright wasn't even playing, he wasn't active, 1169 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 4: d righting. 1170 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,919 Speaker 3: And suit but clearly d Wade is part of one 1171 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 3: half of the show. One half of the show, Bro. 1172 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 4: Long story short, they ain't lead the crib today, like 1173 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,359 Speaker 4: literally daylight. So they get to the I'm sitting there 1174 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,839 Speaker 4: the next day, I pull up about I'm like, I'm 1175 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 4: watch the game, seeing what dog they got? 1176 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 3: Asked it. He played horrible. The Wright couldn't even sit 1177 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 3: on the bench. He was throwing up. 1178 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 4: He didn't even get to come out to the bench 1179 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,319 Speaker 4: and sit on the bench. And I did not do them. 1180 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,360 Speaker 4: How many times tonight was I saying, hey, kept. 1181 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 3: He kept good. I'm like, I'm like, bro, I think. 1182 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 4: Y'all should go right now, Like y'all gotta get up ear, 1183 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 4: y'all got to earth. 1184 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 3: No, no, no, we're good. We're good. Like I'm like 1185 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 3: the boys, Bro, we're good. Bro laced them. 1186 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 4: I was sitting there like real, them looking at me like, bro, 1187 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 4: this's our fault. 1188 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 3: Like yeah, bro, well we said we had a good time, 1189 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,800 Speaker 3: we got we got great stories. We ain't never experienced 1190 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:44,319 Speaker 3: nothing like that. 1191 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 2: Bro. 1192 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,799 Speaker 3: D Wright was like, no, no, we're just gonna stay 1193 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 3: a little longer, a little longer. Turned to Bro. It's 1194 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 3: like five, bro, Bro, we gotta go. We gonna want 1195 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 3: to like game. 1196 00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,839 Speaker 1: You just passed Michael Jordan up for the blocks. I 1197 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: want to know what is like a thousand and two 1198 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 1: hundred and something? I can't remember the fifty two, all right, 1199 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 1: So so you just passed Michael Jordan up. Out of 1200 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: the thousand and fifty two you passed up. How many 1201 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 1: of them? 1202 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 2: Is? Get that ship out of here after the block? 1203 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 1: Because I remember I played Jill and I went to 1204 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 1: the old I heard he get. 1205 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 2: That ship out of here. I couldn't wait to come 1206 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 2: back and get some ship. 1207 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 3: Remember I said, get that ship out. Y'all was kicking out. 1208 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 3: You get that was that was my thing. I'm getting 1209 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 3: something getting out. 1210 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 1: So out of the thousand, how many came behind that block? 1211 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 2: Is? Get that ship out of here? 1212 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 3: I said about one thousand and fifty too. Well, I'm 1213 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 3: probably didn't say because you know, I probably you know, 1214 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 3: fucked up and got it in your mind. But you know, 1215 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 3: every time I blocked some especially somebody bigger than me, 1216 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 3: if you were bigger than me, get that ship out 1217 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 3: of here's coming right away? 1218 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:57,399 Speaker 2: Right. 1219 00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 3: But y'all know I take pride in that because you know, 1220 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 3: six four on a good day with the right athotics 1221 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 3: and the right the right ethotics and the right sneakers 1222 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 3: and the two l from all the way back to 1223 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,839 Speaker 3: my dad when my dad was my coach, for telling 1224 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 3: me to be more than just you know, a one 1225 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 3: dimension player, you know what I mean. I always try 1226 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 3: to bring like multiple things to the team. People ask me, 1227 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 3: how can you how can you, you know, take a 1228 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 3: back seat to this guy. How can you come off 1229 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 3: the bench at this point? How can you I haven't 1230 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,839 Speaker 3: always been a star player. I've always had to figure 1231 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 3: out a way to be to be on the court. 1232 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,320 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like the star player, he 1233 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 3: gonna get the ball. How can I figure out a 1234 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 3: way to still make it and do something, you know 1235 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, And that's kind of how I've been 1236 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,879 Speaker 3: my whole life. Now, I became that guy that got 1237 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 3: all the shots, that got the ball all time, but 1238 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 3: that wasn't always my role. So I've always tried to 1239 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 3: master whatever role you know, I've been in. So for 1240 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 3: me to be able to do multiple things on the 1241 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 3: FLOORI doll and to be able to have that record 1242 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 3: of the most blocks overall, that's that's big for me. 1243 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 4: I don't think people talk about it enough or acknowledging 1244 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 4: enough what you did in allowing Lebron to come here 1245 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 4: when he came and y'all for him, the Big Three 1246 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,840 Speaker 4: and all that, like that was unbelievable and all that, 1247 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 4: But like people don't understand the sacrifice you had to make, 1248 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 4: Like this was you know what I'm saying, This is 1249 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 4: absolutely Wade, counting your team, YO, franchise, yo, everything, and 1250 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 4: you open the doors knowing that this is Lebron. At 1251 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 4: some point he's gonna be the bigger entity for you. 1252 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 4: To be able to do that like that take a 1253 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 4: level of being humbled even still, like people still who 1254 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 4: weren't the guy whatever when they get that I'm not 1255 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 4: about to relinquish it, like. 1256 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1257 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 4: If I have a choice to say no to it 1258 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 4: or whatever, like and you had that choice, just talk 1259 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 4: about like how you was able to do that and 1260 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 4: what you know made you be able to make that decision, 1261 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,839 Speaker 4: because like you know how I did. Like dudes would 1262 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 4: be like now I don't want to come over and 1263 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 4: take up my sign, like no, this. 1264 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 3: Is my you know what i mean? 1265 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 4: Like that made everything be able to happen. If you 1266 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,799 Speaker 4: don't say, hey, yeah, it could happen, pack and still 1267 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 4: bring them in, but it's gonna be just head bumping 1268 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 4: the whole time. But like with you, the way you 1269 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 4: took it, it made everything possible. 1270 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 3: You know what. Like I've always been secure in who 1271 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 3: I am in the space that I walk in and 1272 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 3: I live in, Like I'm secure my man hood of 1273 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 3: who I am. Bro, you know, I know who I 1274 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 3: am and I don't try to be nobody else. I'm 1275 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 3: me at all times. So I'm secure in that, you 1276 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,239 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So with Bron coming down here, 1277 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 3: like I wasn't worried about necessary him taking my shine 1278 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 3: or taking this in there, like it's only one d 1279 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,320 Speaker 3: way and not staying from the standpoint like oh from 1280 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 3: a from a basketball stammer, just from overall, you know. 1281 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 3: So I was comfortable in that. Ultimately for me, man, 1282 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 3: what it came down to is ME sitting back and 1283 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,360 Speaker 3: I want a championship in two thousand and six. And 1284 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 3: I could have ride off. I could have rolled off 1285 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 3: in the sunset and won at one championship and just 1286 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 3: tried to get as much statistical things as I can get, 1287 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But ultimately, Bro, I just 1288 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 3: wanted to win, and this league was getting challenging. It 1289 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,919 Speaker 3: was getting tougher. Once KG and Ray Island and Paul 1290 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,720 Speaker 3: Piers and Ronner, once they linked up, Bro, the lead changed, 1291 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, the lead change and you you weren't 1292 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,720 Speaker 3: winning with just one star player no more. The league 1293 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 3: had changed. 1294 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 1: And I knew it when we seen it have it 1295 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: as something everybody knows. Shit just got rid, it got rial. 1296 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 3: So listen and I said, after we lost it to them, 1297 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 3: you know they going out like this, I said, this 1298 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 3: would be the last time I get put it on 1299 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 3: in the first round. Man, I'm not doing this no more. 1300 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 2: Kobe was loaded up with gasol and buying. 1301 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: And you had KG them loaded up with Paul ray 1302 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 1: Allen and so. 1303 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,800 Speaker 3: Think about how we I'm thinking now you know Toronto 1304 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,360 Speaker 3: came out of nowhere. It started to be special. It 1305 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 3: really got dd. So now you know how this league go. 1306 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 3: Years go fast. You know what I'm saying. You go 1307 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 3: from this young superstar as young pup and next thing 1308 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 3: you know, now you twenty seven to twenty eight, thirties 1309 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 3: right around the corner. And it wasn't like it is 1310 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 3: today when I thirty is like whatever thirty. Back then 1311 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 3: it was like, oh, you're on your way out. So 1312 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 3: for me, I was like, man, like this move gotta 1313 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 3: be made, Like I got to do something now before 1314 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,359 Speaker 3: I'm in my thirties and I haven't experienced it again 1315 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 3: because once I know, everybody like if you never wanted 1316 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 3: like you want to win it, but once you have 1317 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 3: won it, you know what that feeling is like, and 1318 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 3: you don't get that again. Bro, it's worse. For me, 1319 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 3: it's all about winning. I play a team sport. Individually, 1320 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 3: I'm secure who I am, I know what I could do, 1321 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 3: I know what I bring, But I play a team sport. 1322 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:08,360 Speaker 3: I want team success. And it so happened that Lebron, myself, 1323 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 3: Chris Barson, a lot of others was free agents at 1324 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 3: the same time. I'll sit here to you guys, and 1325 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 3: I promise right hand up. It was a bible here 1326 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 3: I put it in. I never thought me and Lebron 1327 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 3: would play together, never thought it was possible. People think 1328 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 3: we had this thing playing down. I want no plans, bro, 1329 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 3: this was right they thought we had like they thought 1330 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,960 Speaker 3: this was started in two thousand and three. In two 1331 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 3: we're gonna play together, Like you don't know that. 1332 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was allmini for about two years, low for 1333 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:37,319 Speaker 1: about two years. 1334 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 3: I have no means about all the conversations, but it 1335 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 3: wasn't even though it was never about that. And then 1336 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 3: we got a chance to like sit down and be like, 1337 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 3: I think we both reached on our own. Yo, I 1338 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 3: want more out of his career than what I'm what 1339 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,320 Speaker 3: I'm experiencing now, Like, yeah, I got a scoring title, 1340 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,799 Speaker 3: Yeah I got a Finals Emmy p Yeah I got this, 1341 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,319 Speaker 3: I got that, Bron got VPS, he got scoring tires. This. 1342 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,919 Speaker 3: Then it's kind of like that's not enough. You want more, 1343 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:06,839 Speaker 3: so you know what I mean. I remember the call. 1344 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,879 Speaker 3: I remember going to my agent office and he was like, yo, 1345 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 3: Lebron and Leon at the time was his agent, like 1346 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 3: they want to get on the call with us. I'm 1347 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 3: like okay, and I remember get on the call and 1348 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 3: I remember, you know, like I remember talking to Bron. 1349 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,440 Speaker 3: He's like, Yo, where your head at? And I'm like, 1350 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 3: my head doesn't winning where your head had? He was 1351 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 3: like same thing, and I was like, okay, so what 1352 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,520 Speaker 3: that means? You know what I'm saying that The conversation 1353 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,439 Speaker 3: went from there to us saying like if you cool 1354 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,440 Speaker 3: with it, I'm cool with it. Let's rock together. I'm like, cool, 1355 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 3: let's do it. 1356 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:34,920 Speaker 2: Let me ask you. 1357 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,439 Speaker 1: This could have been another team, Yeah, so it could 1358 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 1: have been another thing. 1359 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 2: Could say, was just Miami that this could have worked in. 1360 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 3: Miami was the only well, I don't know, but I 1361 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 3: know at the time when we were trying to make 1362 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,480 Speaker 3: a decision of what city we wanted to play in, 1363 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 3: what we wanted to be like, we had to keep 1364 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 3: our options open to these other Chicago was was was 1365 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 3: on the top of both of our lists. So it 1366 00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 3: was pretty much Chicago. Miami was on the top. We 1367 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 3: looked at New York the possibility because we're gonna ride together, 1368 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 3: We're gonna play together. Let's see what these other cities 1369 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 3: got to offer. So Chicago at the time they had 1370 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 3: to offer, they had two max contracts and they had 1371 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 3: a young d Rose before the MVP rolls this season, 1372 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 3: before they had a low all Dang, they had Noah, 1373 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 3: they had you know what I'm saying. They had all 1374 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 3: these pieces. So I'm like, in the city in Chicago, 1375 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,920 Speaker 3: in the biggest, one of the biggest markets. Craz But 1376 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 3: then it was like EU and d Rolls, that's a lot, 1377 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 3: It's one ball we all needed. That may be too much, 1378 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Defense, Yeah, but we thought 1379 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 3: of listen. But then it was like but then Miami, 1380 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,480 Speaker 3: to their credit, they did it to where they had 1381 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 3: enough money to get three max players. They messed the 1382 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 3: game up. It was like, wait, we can get somebody 1383 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 3: else to all over. So it was like cool. So 1384 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 3: then like we're just trying to sit in the side, 1385 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 3: like once it came down to like, okay, who else 1386 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 3: we would love to play with? Once it came out, 1387 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 3: we would love to play with like CB, Like we 1388 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 3: when we sit down and thought about this, what player 1389 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 3: can match up? Who matches us? You know what I'm saying, 1390 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 3: Mari and Mari goodver Man, we all we all alphas 1391 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,400 Speaker 3: that ain't gonna work, you know what I'm saying, Like 1392 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 3: Eagles may get in a way, who knows. So we 1393 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 3: had to sit down and think about this. And when 1394 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 3: it came out to Miami was the only team that 1395 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 3: had enough money to get all through of every other 1396 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 3: team could have did too. And but like once again, 1397 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,320 Speaker 3: the point was like yo cee b is a perfect match. 1398 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 2: Perfect everybody Miami was. It was a brain. He was perfect. 1399 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,360 Speaker 1: Like I couldn't see too many other people fitting that 1400 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 1: void with you and and Lebron that can kind of 1401 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 1: fit in take take the shots that everybody's gonna. 1402 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 3: Throw, because they were taking shots at them, and like 1403 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 3: other guys couldn't take that. 1404 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 2: Toronto rafter Chris wash. 1405 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 4: Mom if y'all had interferences because we live on location 1406 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 4: at the way Wade manor here in Miami, so it 1407 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 4: might be, you know, boats might be passing by. 1408 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 3: Stuff like sweating on his character because I'm outside. We 1409 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,560 Speaker 3: got choppers and plays. 1410 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Asking a few people that have this, like you got 1411 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 1: a dope nickname, but don't nobody got counties named after them? 1412 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 3: Everyone right now. 1413 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,640 Speaker 1: Nobody had a way a county name after they got 1414 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 1: dope nicknames and stuff, and you got. 1415 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 2: A dope name. 1416 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 3: I like that way. 1417 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 2: I like the flash. 1418 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 3: Nobody get the count people get it. 1419 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 1: How you felt about the first time you heard that? 1420 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 1: And do you like it? And what do you feel 1421 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 1: about it? 1422 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 2: I like it? 1423 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 3: You know what's crazy? 1424 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 2: Bro? 1425 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,440 Speaker 3: Like how did that work out like that? You know 1426 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,080 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like, Okay, I get drifted Miami Dade County. 1427 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,000 Speaker 3: You gotta do it. Change one letter in this way? 1428 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 3: How does that work out that way? 1429 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? 1430 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 3: Description said it up. So like when I first heard it, 1431 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 3: like you know, I thought it was cool. I'm like, oh, 1432 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 3: that's cool right there. But then once I start seeing 1433 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 3: billboard and once I started seeing street, like they got 1434 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 3: little things like a certain places like you're entering Welcome 1435 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 3: to Wade County. I start seeing all this stuff, I'm like, oh, 1436 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 3: this is this is next level around the people like 1437 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 3: this way like they made like Wade County. They for 1438 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 3: like a week out here. It was just like a 1439 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 3: lot of stuff they did, and I was just like 1440 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,440 Speaker 3: what that showed me? Man? This city just they embraced 1441 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 3: me Bro, every part of this city has embraced me, 1442 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, to the point where you 1443 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,919 Speaker 3: can't say nothing about me in this city. You can't 1444 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,240 Speaker 3: say nowhere you go like I'm there. You know what 1445 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 3: I'm saying, talk to him, you know what I'm saying. 1446 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 3: So like for me, like that was love, bro, Like 1447 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 3: the city embraced me that way, and they made it 1448 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,600 Speaker 3: my home. You know what I'm saying. They braced my family. 1449 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,080 Speaker 3: They covered me. You know when I was going through stuff, 1450 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 3: they covered me. Bro. That's definitely one thing I'm proud of. 1451 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 3: The walk away, Like I talk about it more now 1452 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 3: I have tag Wade count a little more. Now I'm 1453 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 3: getting to the end. 1454 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 4: So with that being said, talk about do you ever 1455 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,280 Speaker 4: have to check little Ze and let him know that 1456 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,360 Speaker 4: when they say Wade County at not talking about. 1457 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 3: Him, to check him recently about it? 1458 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 4: I mean, but I mean technically he could take claiming 1459 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 4: that his name is Wade. 1460 01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 3: No, yeah, technically he can get some ownership, you know. 1461 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,479 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He gets a little about 1462 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 3: I had to check because he like, you know, this 1463 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 3: is Wade County, like this is my city. I'm like, 1464 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 3: what you mean, is your city, what you do? 1465 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 2: What you do? 1466 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 1: Gata Rade commercials, they always had classic commercials. The one 1467 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,240 Speaker 1: that you and your wife have now is one of 1468 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 1: my favorite Gatorade. 1469 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 2: Commercials all the time. That's like dope that y'all did that. 1470 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 1: And your wife used to sit courtside, They say she 1471 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 1: used to talk a lot of trash. So we had 1472 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:46,160 Speaker 1: a question like or is she still do Who talked 1473 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:50,280 Speaker 1: the most trash? You, your wife or the brand new baby? 1474 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 1: Oh man, Well, definitely from the trash. Talking about wife 1475 01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 1: kills me. She is the worst and the best at 1476 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,400 Speaker 1: the same time. When it come to that with my daughter, 1477 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,080 Speaker 1: that looks my daughter gets running. 1478 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,960 Speaker 3: She running it. She running it, brother, looks she gives. 1479 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,440 Speaker 3: She don't mess around, bro, I am in for a 1480 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,520 Speaker 3: long life coming up. She don't mess around. And she 1481 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,840 Speaker 3: ain't said a word yet, she said a peep. She 1482 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 3: just look at you. You know what it is like, 1483 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,920 Speaker 3: I don't want that bottle. It ain't time yet. I 1484 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:24,320 Speaker 3: don't like the anger you're trying to get me the 1485 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 3: bottle with. That's how it looks getting you. Oh, let 1486 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,480 Speaker 3: me let me get right, let me get tight. 1487 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 1: You've been with a lot of shoe companies. This new 1488 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,360 Speaker 1: shoe and this new company that you got in. 1489 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 2: I like the shoe. I think the shoe is real dope. 1490 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,919 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Miami baby, we got action. Yeah shoe. 1491 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 2: I think the shoe is real dope. 1492 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:47,960 Speaker 1: But the colors that you have, it's crazy to me, 1493 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 1: like the color schemes that you have, all the stuff 1494 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 1: that I've been seeing. 1495 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, he got the cotton, candy got this color. 1496 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 1: Tell me about that company and how much you love 1497 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,280 Speaker 1: that shoe, because it seems like you like that shoot 1498 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,120 Speaker 1: a whole lot, especially going into it. And if you 1499 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,240 Speaker 1: gonna have somebody else where their shoot, since you a 1500 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, you gotta have somebody else the legacy 1501 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,120 Speaker 1: going in this league. And if he was, who would 1502 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:11,240 Speaker 1: it be. 1503 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 3: Well, So, you know, I was with Converts for six 1504 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 3: years and an amazing, amazing relationship I have with them. 1505 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 3: I mean they they helped take me to a level 1506 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 3: that was my only endorsing partnership for a long time. 1507 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 3: Convert y'all, y'alls with the Jordan brand, y'all looking at 1508 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:33,160 Speaker 3: nothing else. But then I got a chance to be 1509 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,320 Speaker 3: with the Jordan brand for three years. You know, came 1510 01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,560 Speaker 3: from Chicago, Like there was a big moment for me, 1511 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, to be with Jordan's. Like 1512 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,560 Speaker 3: Jordan wanted me to be over there. 1513 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:41,080 Speaker 2: You look good. 1514 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,920 Speaker 3: It felt good, It felt good. But then I had 1515 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,400 Speaker 3: to look at everything. I was like, I think I 1516 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 3: was turning thirty, you know what I'm saying, when my 1517 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 3: contract was up, and you know, they would have brought 1518 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 3: me back on the lesser lesser years, you know what 1519 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,560 Speaker 3: I'm saying. Money was good, but lesser years, and I 1520 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,280 Speaker 3: just had to think about where I was trying to go, 1521 01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,959 Speaker 3: Like what I'm trying to do with this brand away 1522 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:01,560 Speaker 3: I'm trying to do, Like how I'm trying to do it, 1523 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,640 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So for me, it was 1524 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 3: like what Jordan has done, the blueprint that he has 1525 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 3: laid is incredible and it's amazing and I'm thankful for 1526 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 3: because I'm able to take a little bit of that 1527 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,720 Speaker 3: and go do my own thing. So that's what I 1528 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,240 Speaker 3: wanted to do. I want to go to China, which 1529 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 3: was an unbelievable market. It was a global market, and 1530 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:20,840 Speaker 3: I wanted to build something on my own. I wanted 1531 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 3: to use the blueprint that Jordan's set for us, and 1532 01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 3: I wanted to build some my own. So I've been 1533 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,200 Speaker 3: with the brand now seven years, man, and I think 1534 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:29,919 Speaker 3: to this point, I think I got like twelve Wat 1535 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 3: stores in China. You know what I'm saying, Like, my 1536 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,520 Speaker 3: brand is obviously growing and then we're building. So I'm 1537 01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,000 Speaker 3: proud of it. You know what I'm saying. I'm proud 1538 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 3: of what is standing for. I'm proud of being like 1539 01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,880 Speaker 3: a young man from Minnis in Chicago and having enough 1540 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,920 Speaker 3: commonce to take myself globally and not worry about the 1541 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,480 Speaker 3: cool factor in the US and understand that it's bigger 1542 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,520 Speaker 3: than that and really try to build something. So like 1543 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 3: I love I Obviously I'm on my seven shoe. This 1544 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 3: is my last shoot that I will ever wear on 1545 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 3: the NBA court. But like what I love is they've 1546 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,200 Speaker 3: allowed me to just be me. They've allowed me to 1547 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,640 Speaker 3: just be free and like come up with ideas that's 1548 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,840 Speaker 3: like can I do this? They're like, we don't know, 1549 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 3: but let's try it, right, you know what I'm saying, 1550 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 3: Like I'm the chief brand all of a sudden, my brand, 1551 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:07,760 Speaker 3: so I have a lot to say so in it, man, 1552 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 3: So it's real cool, man, I'm proud of my younger 1553 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,080 Speaker 3: self for making that decision. And you know, I just 1554 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,760 Speaker 3: found a lifetime deal with them this summer. So for me, 1555 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 3: it's like I got so much more time to help 1556 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 3: build this brand and it's for everything with me, So 1557 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,120 Speaker 3: you know, I'm happy about that. 1558 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,600 Speaker 4: That's dope, man. You know we want to wrap it up. 1559 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 4: We've been doing you since forever. 1560 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 2: Man. 1561 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 4: We stupid proud of everything. Like I say in our book, 1562 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 4: it's MJ. Kobe and you and you already know what 1563 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 4: that is. That's that's like coming from where you came 1564 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,120 Speaker 4: from and doing what you did, and not only on 1565 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,200 Speaker 4: the court, bro, philanthropy, how you give back to the community, 1566 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 4: how you put into churches, how your family give back, 1567 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,960 Speaker 4: from your mom and tra jail to everybody. 1568 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,920 Speaker 3: We support you. Proud of you, Bro. I appreciate that, man. 1569 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:52,560 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. 1570 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:52,880 Speaker 1: You know. 1571 01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,640 Speaker 3: You know I try to do is make my guys proud. 1572 01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:55,880 Speaker 1: Man. 1573 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,920 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, y'all led the way. Appreciate 1574 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,520 Speaker 3: y'allfu leading the way, brother, than I just try to 1575 01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,320 Speaker 3: come through and make y'all proud and you know, lead 1576 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,200 Speaker 3: the way for the next generations. 1577 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:09,480 Speaker 4: Perspect Yo, so that's a rap on Season one of 1578 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,400 Speaker 4: the Knuckleheads with Q Rich and d Miles. Now, we 1579 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 4: sincerely want to thank all the viewers, all of the 1580 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,800 Speaker 4: guests that came on the show, Super Super Shills, all 1581 01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 4: of the guests that came on the show. We appreciated, 1582 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,560 Speaker 4: appreciate the hospitality, whether we came to y'all, y'all came 1583 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,360 Speaker 4: to us. We appreciate each and every one of the 1584 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:30,760 Speaker 4: fans for subscribing, downloading all of the comments on social media, 1585 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,960 Speaker 4: following us, the repost and everything with all of the 1586 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 4: people that viewing on YouTube and everybody is listening on 1587 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,479 Speaker 4: whatever platform you guys listen on. We appreciate the love. 1588 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 4: We appreciate being ranked on the iTunes top charts and 1589 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,560 Speaker 4: all of that stuff since we drop. We appreciate that 1590 01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:52,360 Speaker 4: love and support, and we appreciate our sponsors. We appreciate 1591 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,440 Speaker 4: Hennessy for the love. We appreciate the partnership with the 1592 01:07:55,520 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 4: Players Tribune. They've been unbelievable. We appreciate the crew, Carl 1593 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:06,320 Speaker 4: c Book, Chris Bernard, everybody behind the scenes and Players 1594 01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,240 Speaker 4: Tribune to get the trips in order to get everything 1595 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,120 Speaker 4: on the production side. We appreciate the video, the camera guys, 1596 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:18,519 Speaker 4: everybody's doing the editing. We appreciate ourselves, myself and Darius, 1597 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,240 Speaker 4: and we appreciate our families for allowing us to be 1598 01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,120 Speaker 4: away all the times were gone from that's from everybody, 1599 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:30,080 Speaker 4: from myself and Darius to Chris, to see Carl, everybody 1600 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,639 Speaker 4: moving around. We appreciate the love and support. 1601 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 3: Man. 1602 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,759 Speaker 4: We got a few more nuggets before season two coming 1603 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,200 Speaker 4: with us. Season two gonna be bigger and better. We 1604 01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,439 Speaker 4: got some more dope guests. We got some more a 1605 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,800 Speaker 4: dope conversations and stories coming for y'all, So tune in, 1606 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:45,800 Speaker 4: stay on the look out, and check us out. 1607 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:46,040 Speaker 2: Man. 1608 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:51,439 Speaker 4: The show is executive produced by Demails q Rich, Chris 1609 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:57,360 Speaker 4: Bernard and Carl Scott, editing by Corey Miller. Shouts to 1610 01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,360 Speaker 4: our video team Ashley Robinson Andrew think Of. 1611 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,719 Speaker 1: And Last would not least our production operations teams Michelle 1612 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 1: Jones and Kate Gooperman. 1613 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:13,280 Speaker 2: We are Yeah the players. 1614 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,280 Speaker 3: Tribute dot Com