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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Zach Wheeler. Welcome to Phillies shown.

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Speaker 2: Rubin Marr Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd's Alecki. We are in Clearwater, Florida.

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Speaker 2: We are almost at the end well week two of Campchin.

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Speaker 3: It flies, It really does fly.

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Speaker 4: You wait all winter for baseball season to come back,

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Speaker 4: and it just goes pedal to the metal right away,

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Speaker 4: and it's not even the season yet. But of course

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Speaker 4: we're in spring training. In the games, we'll begin on

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Speaker 4: Saturday with the Phillies traveling to the middle of Florida

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Speaker 4: Lakeland play the Tigers, and then on Sunday they will

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Speaker 4: host the Baltimore Orioles in their first home game here

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Speaker 4: in clear Water. Rob Thompson has not really announced his

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Speaker 4: pitching plans for the early part of the Grapefruit League season.

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Speaker 4: When he does that, you can kind of start getting

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Speaker 4: out the calculator and figuring out who's going to line

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Speaker 4: up where in the season opening rotation. But I think

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Speaker 4: we can bet that once March twenty seventh comes around

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Speaker 4: in Washington, Zach Wheeler will make the opening day start

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Speaker 4: for the Phillies.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, no, no doubt about it. I mean, Zach

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Speaker 2: was the opening they started last year. I remember it

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Speaker 2: was like Aaron Nola had started the previous few and

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Speaker 2: then Zach gets to start last year, and no doubt,

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Speaker 2: and why wouldn't he.

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Speaker 3: Such a fun guy to watch pitch?

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Speaker 2: And I hate I hate to say this because it's

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Speaker 2: but I really feel, you know, my first three years

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Speaker 2: covering the team, it was like Hammels and it was

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Speaker 2: Halliday and Lee and Roy Olswall. I kind of feel

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Speaker 2: I didn't appreciate it as much as I did, just

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Speaker 2: for whatever reason. But then when you see Zach Wheeler

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Speaker 2: now and Aaron Nola now, these guys that go two

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Speaker 2: hundred innings every year, I just really find myself loving

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Speaker 2: watching those guys pitch.

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Speaker 3: Those are a lot of those are really fun.

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Speaker 2: Days at the ballpark because Zach is a throwback man.

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Speaker 3: To throwback, he's a workhorse.

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Speaker 4: He's one of the vanishing breed in Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 4: The two hundred innings starter. Last year, there were only

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Speaker 4: four of them in the major leagues, and he was

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Speaker 4: one of them, getting to exactly two hundred innings in

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Speaker 4: his last start of the season. I know that was

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Speaker 4: important to him, and it's going to be important to

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Speaker 4: him as he starts of this new uh three year

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Speaker 4: extension with the Phillies, and you know, we were lucky

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Speaker 4: enough to talk to him a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were.

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Speaker 2: This is Yeah, We've wanted to have talked to Zach

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Speaker 2: for a while because he's such a fascinating guy and

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Speaker 2: he really is a throwback in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 2: You know, you and I we love his demeanor on

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Speaker 2: the mound. It's a total bulldog. You know, he pitches

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Speaker 2: deep into games. Of course, he's elite, which you have

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Speaker 2: to be to pitch deep into games. But you know,

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Speaker 2: we had Caleb Kathamon recently, we had JT. Real Muto

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Speaker 2: on recently, and both of those guys just really dug

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Speaker 2: into like kind of what makes him great. And so

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Speaker 2: Zach kind of explained kind of what makes him tick

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Speaker 2: on the mound in the offseason during the season to

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Speaker 2: kind of get him to that elite cy Young caliber level.

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Speaker 4: And it's almost like he pitches like his personality no bs,

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Speaker 4: very serious, very efficient and I'm gonna attack you. And

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Speaker 4: you know last year he finished his second in the

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Speaker 4: Cy Young voting. I mean, you know, I'm sure there

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Speaker 4: was a little bit of a tinge of disappointment but

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's a hell of the season. You finished

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Speaker 4: second to cy Young. He was you know, led to

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Speaker 4: the led the league in innings I'm sorry, second in

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Speaker 4: the league in innings. Uh, and he led the league

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Speaker 4: in ops against and whip. Yeah, I believe he was

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Speaker 4: dominant second a second in e ra A. Just a

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Speaker 4: fabulous season. And so he's got two second place finishes

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Speaker 4: in the cy Young and last handful of years. That's

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Speaker 4: that's that's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 2: And you know what I liked about this this interview,

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Speaker 2: which you're about to hear, is that we talked. You

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Speaker 2: talked about how he's like no Bs on the mountain

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Speaker 2: and he really gets after it. But you see like

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Speaker 2: his personality in this interview and Zach is he's a

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Speaker 2: lot like Halliday and like some of these elite guys

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Speaker 2: on the mound, but off the field, he's really chill,

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Speaker 2: really laid back. In fact, I remember I think it

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Speaker 2: was two postseasons ago before he pitched in Atlanta. I'm

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Speaker 2: standing in the dugout myself and I can't remember who

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Speaker 2: and Zach comes out before Game one or Game two

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Speaker 3: Man, I hope he pitches well. And I hope no

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Speaker 3: one has a photo of me chatting with Zach.

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Speaker 2: Before this game, because, you know, because people get superstitious

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Speaker 2: about that stuff. But he is really laid back off

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Speaker 2: the field, total hardcore pitcher on the field, and that's

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Speaker 2: why he has a chance to win a Soal Young

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Speaker 2: every year.

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Speaker 4: It's been a great, great great three greats. Signing for

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Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Phillies. Seems to get better every year. And

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Speaker 4: when I you know, watch the way how dedicated he

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Speaker 4: I still feel like the best yet to come. I

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Speaker 4: feel like he might cash in on one of those

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Speaker 4: Winna saw Young one of these years. And of course

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Speaker 4: the big prize is the World Series. That's what he

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Speaker 4: wants more than anything. That's what guys in that room

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Speaker 4: want more than anything.

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Speaker 2: And here's something I'm gonna throw this out there, because

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Speaker 2: as Hall of Fame standards shift over the years, man,

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Speaker 2: if he has three Zach Wheeler type years, I wonder

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Speaker 2: if you could enter the conrece He's not gonna have

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Speaker 2: the wins. Of course he's not gonna have the strikeouts,

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Speaker 2: but in terms of dominant pitchers for an extend period

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Speaker 2: of time, we might down the road be talking about

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Speaker 2: him as a potential hot Hall of Fame candidate.

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Speaker 3: We'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but I think

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Speaker 2: you're gonna enjoy this. Here we go, our conversation with

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Speaker 2: Zach Wheeler. Zach, thanks for joining us. Spring training has started.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of talking a lot of the

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Speaker 2: guys already the first week. You know, they're really excited

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Speaker 2: about this team. You know, even though you guys haven't

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Speaker 3: The last few years.

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Speaker 2: What has you excited and what has you and confident

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Speaker 2: about this team in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: Well, first things first, I think we're a good you know,

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Speaker 5: we did well last year. We got to where we

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Speaker 5: wanted to be. We just did finish the job. You know,

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Speaker 5: made it to the playoffs. You know, we're happy with that.

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Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, you can be

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Speaker 5: happy with that, but you want to win the World

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Speaker 5: Series every single year, and that's the goal coming in

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Speaker 5: the spring, and so you know that was about the

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Speaker 5: only letdown last year was you know, just not finishing

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Speaker 2: And the last few springs, you know, you've come in

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Speaker 2: was a split and I knew, I asked you the

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Speaker 2: other day. I kind of knew you wouldn't have another

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Speaker 2: But do you come into this spring like I know

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Speaker 2: you're always trying to like get better and take that

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Speaker 2: next step. What's the point of emphasis if it's anything

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Speaker 2: this spring for you?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, Like you said, usually come in with

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Speaker 5: other stuff will kind of just you know fall into place.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, it's.

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Speaker 5: Nothing really, you know pinpointed this year, you know, just

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Speaker 5: just getting your work in as everybody would always say,

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Speaker 5: and you know the stone strikes, staying healthy and just

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Speaker 4: Zach, year six, right, you're six in Philadelphia. What is

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Speaker 4: the experience come becoming a Philly coming to Philadelphia meant

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Speaker 4: to you? Because it just seems like you get better

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Speaker 4: every year. It seems like it's been a great marriage

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Speaker 4: with the team, with the city, with the you know,

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Speaker 4: your coaches, and and you just keep getting better and better.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hopefully that continues. You know, it's hard to get

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Speaker 5: better and better every season. You know, it's just sometimes

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Speaker 5: it has to do with a lot of luck. And

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Speaker 5: I have a good team playing behind me, have a

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Speaker 5: good defense behind me. That definitely helps. And you know

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Speaker 5: I have people pushing me on the staff, you know,

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Speaker 5: pitching staff and Caleb also, so you know, just all

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Speaker 5: those factors kind of adding up over the years, and

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Speaker 5: you know, just having that drive to get better. Also,

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Speaker 5: you know, you they give you this contract and you

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Speaker 5: don't want to let people down. You don't want to

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Speaker 5: let you know, your family down, your name down, that

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Speaker 5: you don't want people to look at you a certain way.

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Speaker 1: So you try to do the best.

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Speaker 5: You can and you know, live up to that contract,

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Speaker 5: if not exceeded.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned the contracts you starting now are the highest,

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Speaker 4: uh have the highest one year salary in the history

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Speaker 4: of Philadelphia sports. What type of responsibility comes with that?

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Speaker 5: Kind of just the same thing. I said, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's living up to that contract. And now I got

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Speaker 5: a new one, so you know, it's it's up there

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Speaker 1: Hopefully that works out.

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Speaker 5: You know, I feel great, So hope that can continue,

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Speaker 5: just to kind of build on what I've been doing.

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Speaker 4: I remember your opening press conference you were you spoke

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Speaker 4: the Feel Analytics program could help take you to the

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Speaker 4: next level. And then your first spring training you said

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Speaker 4: Those being factors on why you chose the Phillies. Can

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Speaker 4: you speak on you know, what the Phillies Analytics program

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Speaker 4: has done for you to help get you to the

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Speaker 4: next level, and what your relationship is and throw it

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Speaker 4: to JT and whatnot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think kyleb has done an awesome job.

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Speaker 1: I gotta give a lot of credit to him.

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Speaker 5: You know, I've always had a good fastball, but O

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Speaker 5: speed's always struggled, you know, finding basically what pitch kind

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Speaker 5: throwing it for strikes and good quality strikes and stuff

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Speaker 5: like that. So he is a nerd in the aspect

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Speaker 5: of he can dive into all these numbers and angles

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Speaker 5: a ton of different stuff and kind of shrink it

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Speaker 5: for me. You know, Kayla could sit there with a

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Speaker 4: You have a game plan, you know that the other

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Speaker 3: How do you refok on the next step bad?

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Speaker 3: Thought about it, that I was not just waiting far.

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Speaker 1: Away, just far away.

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Speaker 5: But I'm pretty sure I'm done after this, but you know,

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Speaker 5: time will tell, and who knows. I never want to

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Speaker 5: say never, but more than likely I'll probably be done

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Speaker 5: after this. That was kind of the the goal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just because I mean, family time is so important,

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Speaker 2: you so much as I.

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Speaker 5: Got, you know, four kids and my awesome wife, and

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Speaker 5: I want to spend time with them too.

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Speaker 3: You just saw the Eagles win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Can you fantasize what it would be like to win

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Speaker 4: a World Series in Philadelphia?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know a few years ago with them also,

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Speaker 5: We wanna, like Harper always says, had that parade down

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Speaker 5: you know, let the city enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: They'd like to enjoy, uh championships there do you? Uh

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Speaker 2: you mentioned four kids. They're gonna start playing ball, imagine right,

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Speaker 2: t ball? Maybe at some point maybe just let them

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Speaker 2: let them find out if they would. I asked you

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Speaker 2: this a couple of years ago, like before the Little

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Speaker 2: League Classic, and like Little League season is starting, what

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Speaker 2: would your advice be to like parents who are trying

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Speaker 2: to teach the kids how to throw a baseball.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember what you told me,

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Speaker 3: but you're a lesson.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's probably you know, just figure out how to

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Speaker 5: throw the baseball properly to help protect your arm. And

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Speaker 5: in literally you're just there having fun. You're not trying

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Speaker 5: to You're always trying to win games, but you're also

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Speaker 5: having fun.

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Speaker 1: At the little league level.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's all fun and games there and

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Speaker 5: you're learning how to play the game, learning how to

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Speaker 5: play it right, and learning your body and that type

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Speaker 5: of thing. So, you know, just just trying to keep

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Speaker 5: your arm healthy and not overdo it and get burnt out.

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Speaker 3: It's great stuff, Sach, Zach, thanks a lot, man. We

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Speaker 3: appreciate the time fun.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Man, that was great. I loved it. Jim, what you think.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was great too.

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Speaker 4: I go back to what I heard Dan please Sach

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Speaker 4: say on the MLB Network a few weeks ago. He

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Speaker 4: called Zach Wheeler the perfect picture. So that was a

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Speaker 4: nice little glimpse into the mind of the perfect picture.

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Speaker 4: And I love that he showed us those grips. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna go home and try them in the backyard.

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Speaker 3: I am too.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna see if I can teach everybody in my

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Speaker 2: son's little leg how to throw like a good, good,

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Speaker 2: nasty sweeper.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Yeah, bring that's that's not advised.

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Speaker 4: Bring that sweeper to the what is it, the Marple Newton.

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Speaker 3: Little League exactly. So you know, I will say this.

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Speaker 2: One thing that Zach did tell me a few years

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Speaker 2: ago is he said, tell kids, when their hands are small,

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Speaker 2: three fingered, four seam grip until their hands get big.

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Speaker 2: So three fingered, four seam grip. Zach Wheeler, thanks again,

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Speaker 2: and that was a lot of fun. We'll be back

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Speaker 2: next week. Jimmy, I'll smell you later, Bud, smell you guys.

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