1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Brian Curtis and I'm Doug Prisner. Here 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: are the stories we're following today. 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 2: Israel has launched the next phase of its war against Hamas. 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: At Baxter has that story and more from the nine 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: to sixty news room in San Francisco. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 3: Ed. 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, Brian, you're right. It's moving with heavy force into 8 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 4: the south of Gaza. Now it says it has achieved 9 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 4: one third of its goal, and through a translator, Prime 10 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 4: Minister Benjamin that Yahoo says there should be no doubt 11 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 4: about the attacks force moving forward. 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 5: We are going to continue with the war until we 13 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 5: achieve all of its objectives. And you cannot achieve these 14 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 5: objectives without continuing the ground maneuver. 15 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 4: And that includes his Israel Defense forces going through Hamas 16 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 4: held territory, trying to root out Hamas and destroying their 17 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 4: tunnels primitive holes with ladders down inside. This is actual 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 4: footage from the scene. Now, IDF says it has eliminated 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 4: at five hundred of the eight hundred plus exposed shafts 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 4: and say they're near kindergartens, schools, playgrounds and mosques. More 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 4: than one hundred hostages have been freed. At least five 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 4: thousand Hamas fighter are dead. Along with that a threat 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 4: to civilians and future hostage releases. US National Security Council 24 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: spokesman John Kirby on ABC has heard here on Bloomberg says, 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 4: those negotiations, though, are going on. 26 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 6: We're working at this literally by the hour, the National 27 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 6: Security Council and all the way up the high levels 28 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 6: of the administration to try to see hour by hour 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 6: we can get these discussions back, going going forward to 30 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 6: see if we can get the pause back in place 31 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 6: and get the hostages out. But there's a constant effort 32 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 6: on the United States side. 33 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 4: And what is the end goal for the US. 34 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 6: What we want to see is a reformed PA or 35 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 6: revitalized Palestinian authority that can have a voice and some 36 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 6: measure of control over governance in Gaza. 37 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 4: And a perfect world well a two nations state. Yemen's 38 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 4: Huthis claim they have carried out targeted operations against two 39 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 4: Israeli warships in the Red Sea as well. A US 40 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 4: Pentagon has reported that a US warship, the USS Carney, 41 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 4: has also come under attack. The Hoothy statement says the 42 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: ship's ignored warnings. Indian Prime Minister Nearendrum, Modi's bid for 43 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 4: a third term in office has been strengthened. His party 44 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 4: has won three crucial state elections and unseated the opposition 45 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 4: in two of them. The results exceeded polling predictions. Philippines 46 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 4: Coastguard says it has monitored more than one hundred and 47 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 4: thirty five Chinese maritime militia vessels swarming around disputed Whitsun 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 4: reef in the South China Sea. The Philippines says the 49 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 4: vessels have not responded to radio contact. And when legendary 50 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 4: Kiss take the stage for the last time after a 51 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 4: fifty year career, well, they'll hand their legacy over to 52 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 4: three dimensional avatars that will continue playing and touring and 53 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 4: doing live concerts after well, kind of live concerts after 54 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 4: they retire. The band has agreed to let George Lucas 55 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 4: create avatars to perform Day US Rock and Roll concert 56 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 4: as Saturday at Madison Square Garden. The sources tell us 57 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 4: it'll probably take two to three years to organize the 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 4: Kiss avatar tour. Global News twenty four hours a day 59 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: and whatever you want with Bloomberg News Now in San Francisco. 60 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 4: I'm Ed Baxter and this is Bloomberg. 61 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: Brian ed thank you again. I'm Brian Curtis, along with 62 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: Doug Krisner. Vonnie Quinn, our colleague will join us a 63 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: bit later. Let's take a look at the top business 64 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: stories of the hour. FED chair J Powell is pushing 65 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: back against Wall Street's growing expectations of rate cuts in 66 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: the first half of twenty twenty four. Pal said, the 67 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: FED will proceed carefully. 68 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 7: It would be premature to conclude with confidence that we 69 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 7: have achieved a sufficiently restrictive stance, or to speculate on 70 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 7: when policy might ease. We are prepared to titan policy 71 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 7: further if it becomes appropriate to do so. 72 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: Pal signalled on Friday that FED officials expect to leave 73 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: rate steady when they meet December twelfth and thirteenth. A 74 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: slowing US economy and lower inflation have raised expectations that 75 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: the FED could cut interest rates as soon as March. 76 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: Well, we've got a merger deal in the air. This 77 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: is Alaska air Group agreeing to buy the parent of 78 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: Hawaiian Airlines and a multi billion dollar tie up. We 79 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: have the story from Bloomberg's to Nise Pellegrini. 80 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 8: Both boards have already approved this one point nine billion 81 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 8: dollar deal, including nine hundred million dollars in Hawaiian's debt, 82 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 8: and at the eighteen bucks a share that Alaska is paying, 83 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 8: this is a nice little weekend bonus for Hawaiian Air shareholders. 84 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 8: The stock closed under five dollars a share on Friday. 85 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 8: Hawaiian shares have been hammered this year on slow return 86 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 8: of tourism from Asia and also growing competition from Southwest 87 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 8: Airlines in the Hawaii to US market. Alaska has been 88 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 8: growing through mergers at outbid Jet Blue to acquire a 89 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 8: Virgin in twenty sixteen, and Bloomberg Intelligence says the Hawaiian 90 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 8: deal could win antitrust approval because there's little overlap in business, 91 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 8: and also prices on flights from Hawaii to mainland US 92 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 8: and to Asia could go down on the tie up. 93 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 8: Denise Pelligrinny Bloomberg Radio. 94 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: Well Climate Research is at the COP twenty eight meetings 95 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: in Dubai have laid out the stark math that humanity faces. 96 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: The Earth is heating so quickly it's almost inevitable to 97 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: overshoot the one point five degrees celsius threshold without major 98 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: cuts to fossil fuel use. That's according to a new 99 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 2: report that was released at the COP twenty eight summit, 100 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: we heard from Bill Gates, co chair at the Bill 101 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: and Melinda Gates Foundation. 102 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: No, we won't hit the aspirational targets. Well, you can 103 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: do the math on one point five, even two point 104 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 3: zero isn't that likely? Now, Fortunately, if you stay below three, 105 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 3: a lot of the ill effects that people have heard 106 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: about don't happen unless you really are irresponsible and let 107 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: it get up to the higher range. 108 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: Gates speaking there, global temperatures were about one point four 109 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: degrees celsius above the pre industrial average during the first 110 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: ten months of this year. That makes this the hottest 111 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: year on record according to the United Nations. 112 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: And also at COP twenty eight, Exonmobile and a Ramco 113 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: led a pledge by fifty oil and natural gas producers 114 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: to reduce greenhouse gases. Now this is a bit controversial. 115 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: Why well, none of the fifty intend to reduce overall 116 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: oil and gas production. Instead, they intend to cut emissions 117 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: from their own operations, and this means stemming the release 118 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: of methane, which happens to be one of the most 119 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: dangerous greenhouse gases. The aim here is to get methane 120 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,239 Speaker 1: emissions to near zero by twenty twenty three. These companies, 121 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: by the way, have also agreed to stop routine flaring 122 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: of natural gas. Among the international oil companies pledging to 123 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: cut emissions, shell BP, Total Energies and occidental Petroleum notably 124 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: absent Chevron and Conoco, Philip Brian Well. 125 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: Chinese developer Evergrand has a final chance to avoid liquidation. 126 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,119 Speaker 2: Bloomberg zivon Mann has the story from Hong Kong. 127 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 9: Evergram faces the court hearing in Hong Kong today over 128 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 9: a credit or request to wind up the company. The 129 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 9: lawsuit has lingered for eighteen months but is finally coming 130 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 9: to a head. Evergram must convince a judge that it 131 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 9: has a concrete debt restructuring plan, otherwise it faces liquidation. 132 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 9: In addition, there's a new twist to the case. Sources 133 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 9: say a group of offshore investors is demanding its debt 134 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 9: be swapped for a controlling stake in Evergrand and to 135 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 9: Hong Kong units. The liquidation hearing deadline today might prompt 136 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 9: Evergrd to offer more sweeteners to win over bondholders in 137 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 9: Hong Kong. I'm yvon Mann Bloomberg. 138 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: Radio Regulators in Beijing want provinces to come up with 139 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: our own plans to handle financial risk. We have that 140 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: story from Bloomberg's Joan Wong in Hong Kong. 141 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 10: China is calling for Taylor's policies, not a one side, 142 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 10: twits all approach. The so called one province one policy 143 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 10: idea was broached by leading regulator Lie junzh in a 144 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 10: Shinhua article. Lee as head of the National Financial Regulatory Administration. 145 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 10: The comments come about a month after officials pledged to 146 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 10: set up a mechanism to resolve local debt issues. Lee's 147 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 10: new approach may include name and shame responses. He said 148 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 10: the new push would focus on the people who cause 149 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 10: major risks and would rectify disruptive behavior in Hong Kong. 150 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 10: Juan Wong Bloomberg Radio. 151 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: Eleven minus passed the hour. This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 152 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: I'm Brian Curtis along with Vonnie Quinn and joining us 153 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: now in our studios is Ian Fisher, Bloomberg Weekend Editor. 154 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: For more on the Israel hamas War. Ian, thank you 155 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: very much for coming on the show with us today. 156 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: So the US says that many civilians have died in Gaza, 157 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: too many, but it's not calling for a permanent ceasefire, 158 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 2: it wants better conduct from Israel in managing the war. 159 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: Are there signs that this is happening. 160 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 11: Well, you have a bunch of kind of I don't know, 161 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 11: opposing forces going on in this next phase of the war, 162 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 11: which is moving to the south, which is you know, 163 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 11: where Israel believes the top leaders of Hamas are, and 164 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 11: it is the hometown the Yah Yah Yah Sinhwar, who 165 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 11: is the head of Hamas's military wing. You have these 166 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 11: warnings from the US that says, look, you know you 167 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 11: basically you know, a lot of Gaza city in the 168 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 11: north was destroyed. You know, the Hamas Health Ministry says 169 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 11: fifteen thousand people have died, and you just you you 170 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 11: can't do that again. And that morning came from Anthony 171 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 11: Blincoln and even President Biden to some extent on down 172 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 11: and in terms of Israel, you know, paying attention there 173 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 11: doesn't US officials have given them some credits. They sorry 174 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 11: about that. They've basically carved up southern Gaza into these 175 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 11: little microzones and they're kind of they're warning people that like, look, 176 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 11: you know you live in you know one oh one, 177 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 11: please get to one oh four, because we're going to 178 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 11: attack one one oh one. I'm making that up, but 179 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 11: that's basically the idea. The idea. A problem is that 180 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 11: of the two point two million people who live in Gaza, 181 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 11: about one point eight million, according to the UN, are displaced. 182 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 11: A lot of them have gone to the south. So 183 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 11: now Israel is attacking, you know, uh, an area that 184 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 11: already had been very crowded and now as you know, 185 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 11: much more so after the fighting in the north. Added 186 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 11: to that, you have the fact that Israel you know, 187 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 11: is very very intent on destroying Hamas and to whatever 188 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 11: that takes. And today's the general the chiefs of staff 189 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 11: are the ideas that he didn't come out and say, look, 190 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 11: you know, we don't care about civilian I think they do. Uh, 191 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 11: But he said we're going to be fighting in the 192 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 11: south as scercely as we fought in the north. Uh 193 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 11: So uh, you know it takes from that what you will. 194 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 12: And how are the civilians getting this information? I mean 195 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 12: we know that flyers were dropped, for example, when they 196 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 12: were being told to go south. How are they figuring 197 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 12: out where they're supposed to go? 198 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 11: Now? It's very interesting and actually, you know, John Kirby 199 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 11: is one of the White House National security spokesmen, was 200 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 11: gave Israel credit for the way they're going about this. 201 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 11: I mean basically two ways. They have a map online 202 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 11: that has you know, blocked out all of the different 203 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 11: you know, microzones, and you know, INFORI of personal lives 204 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 11: in Gods, I can say, oh, I lived here, so 205 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 11: I better get out because they say they're going to attack. 206 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 11: And they also have been making phone calls. You know, Israel, 207 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 11: you know good intelligence and ability to maneuver that way 208 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 11: around Gaza. So that's you know, basically the waves. Now 209 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 11: we also have some reporting from US and from other 210 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 11: outlets that you know that those zones have not always 211 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 11: been respected. I mean some people have some people in 212 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 11: Gods have reported that, you know, they were told to 213 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 11: go to a place, but still there was some bombing there. 214 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 11: So you know, we just don't know. It's early days 215 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 11: for this, you know, second phase, which is in the South. 216 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: So what seems like harsh treatment, we don't know whether 217 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: or not that eventually causes the US to modify what 218 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: it wants to give to Israel in terms of firepower, 219 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: weapons and equipment. You had some pretty serious comments from 220 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: Centator Lindsay Graham today about about Lloyd Austin calling him naive. 221 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 11: Uh, yeah, no, I I have no crystal ball. You know, 222 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 11: there is a lot of support for you know, supporting 223 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 11: Israel militarily in Washington and in Congress. I think, you know, 224 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 11: the Biden administration is a little more cautious. A lot 225 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 11: of members of Congress are you know, much more I 226 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 11: don't want to say aggressive, are much more willing to 227 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 11: give Israel you know, the weaponry and you know other 228 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 11: assistance that it needs. So it's hard for me to 229 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 11: imagine a scenario in which, you know, the US completely 230 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 11: pulls back. But you know, there also have been very 231 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 11: clear warnings that you know, fifteen thousand people you know, 232 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 11: in one part of the war is just it's it's 233 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 11: it's too much. I mean, the quote that a lot 234 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 11: of them vieuses is one is too much. And if 235 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 11: that's repeated in the South, I mean, I think, you know, 236 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 11: it's going to be very difficult for the Biden administration, 237 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 11: which is already facing a lot of problems from you know, 238 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 11: groups that had voted for them, including you know, Muslims 239 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 11: and young people. 240 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 12: So we have about one hundred hostage just freed six 241 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 12: hostage swaps. Now where does it leave the other one? 242 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 12: Fifty Israeli hostages. That number, you know is give or take. 243 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 11: I'd say at the moment with Hamas and the other 244 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 11: groups that they've kind of farmed out hostages or who 245 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 11: had hostages after October the seventh, you know, talks broke 246 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 11: down late last week. Israel withdrew its mediators from Cutter, 247 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 11: you know, which is the nation that was you know, 248 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 11: had been doing the the mediating, you know, saying that 249 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 11: Hamas did not provide a list of hostages to be 250 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 11: swapped for prisoners. Hamas denied this, and they said several times, 251 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 11: including repeating it today, that they were finished with hostage 252 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 11: exchanges until the war is over or there was some 253 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 11: kind of permanent ceasefire. So id't look great right now? Yah? 254 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Thanks so much for your insights. Ian Fisher, Bloomberg 255 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: Weekend Editor, with us live here. 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