WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: The Avalanches 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:09.680 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. Ladies and gentlemen, 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:12.120 welcome to another episode of. 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:13.119 Quest Love Supreme. 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:19.279 I'm your host Quest Love with Us. We have Fragmented Supremest. 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:21.680 We got Fantego over in the house. What's up, brother, 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:22.840 I'm still here, man. 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:23.200 What up? 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:23.520 What up? 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:26.920 We're here, sugar Steve, Yep, I'm not fragmented. I've never 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:28.680 missed a show except the ones you told me not 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:33.720 to attend. Wait, when did I ban you, Steve that 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:35.400 purple roundtable joint? 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:40.720 Oh you're holding that against me? Yes, but let's move on. 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:44.280 That's fired. 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:50.440 In the interact, Ladies and gentlemen, I will say that probably. 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:55.400 Our guests have single handedly at least changed. 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:58.160 And I'm making this introduction person, I'm making it about me, 0:00:58.360 --> 0:00:59.480 not about you or the audience. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:01.160 I'll say that our guest. 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:05.080 Today is single handedly probably changed my trajectory or changed 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:08.479 my perspective on how to deliver music. 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:10.880 And that's pretty much all I can say. 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:17.320 I heard their debut album and it just cracked my skull, 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.560 cracked all of our skulls open in a way that 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:26.320 really hasn't really hasn't done that probably since the days 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:30.720 of Prime Bomb Squad productions of like Public Enemy and 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:34.880 Ice Cube, or even the three feet hind rising in 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:38.920 Daylight Soul's Dead albums of the early nineties. I'll say 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:42.720 that Rick Rubin has taught us on the show that 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:48.480 editing is necessary for smart pop music making, and you know, 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:53.240 the ability to leave the basic necessities for you know, 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:55.480 for the most part of that theory. You know, with 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:59.040 self editing has worked miracles for pop music in the 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:02.280 last seven the year. But our guests have done the 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:06.680 opposite of that, and they've left no stone unturned. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.360 As far as a sonic landscape. 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:13.799 Thereforeever classic debut album, now twenty twenty years old, called 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:17.640 Since I Left You is probably personally one of my 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:22.960 top ten favorite albums of all times, with over one 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:27.400 thousand mind staggering samples and soundbites. I'm an invest We 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.680 all gotta investigate how this was made. When he found 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:32.160 out that they wanted to come on the show, it 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:38.000 was an instant yes on my part. Yeah, I'm just 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.240 honored they're here to share their story with us, because 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.120 I don't even know if I can properly explain to 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:47.880 you how important there art is. But Ladies and gentlemen, 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.000 please welcome the Quest of Supreme the Avalanches. 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:53.080 We have Robbie and Tony. 0:02:53.520 --> 0:03:00.640 Robbie, what's your last Nameta, Robbie Taita, Welcome. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:06.160 Where are you right now? 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:07.320 Where an? 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.080 How is it over there right now? 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.760 Yeah, it's pretty good. We had we had like a 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:17.520 really hard lockdown last year, but we're coming out of 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:18.960 it now. It's just really good. We just played our 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:24.839 first live show in you know, three years on Friday, like, yeah, oh, 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.880 it was incredible. It was it was so amazing, you know, 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:33.760 just to be with the people again, and you know, 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:35.720 I don't know, it was just it just felt like 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.480 at the start it felt really strange, like you know, 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:40.560 it's a little bit rusty, but then you kind of 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:42.720 get into it for twenty minutes and you're like, I 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.119 remember what it's like and instead of being scared, it's 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:49.320 like this joyous experience and yeah, I mean we've just 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.000 missed it so much. So it was so good. 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.600 So it's hard like working your muscle memory for what 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.560 the show was when you well with this particular show, 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.200 was it was it craft it from scratch or was 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:05.480 it the show that you were developing around the time 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:07.560 when covid first hit us. 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.640 No, it was from scratch, so it was a lot. 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:14.120 It was like our hometown first show back, brand new show. 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.800 All the equipment too, has been like in storage and 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:19.800 all covered in dust, and you know, it's like. 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:21.080 It was like. 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:27.320 Family and friends. Yeah. Yeah, we had a few technical 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.920 issues that we that we were that seems like every 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.160 like whenever there's a first show, there's always a few 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.800 things that go down or go wrong. But in the 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.400 end it was it was really incredible and we got 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:38.680 so much love from the audience. 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:44.760 And I would imagine that the amount of research that 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.599 you have to put into your product as far as 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:53.080 your creativity is concerned. That I mean, was this time 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:56.600 off with Covid. Was it a total time off for 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:59.640 you guys, or was it just like okay, let's go 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:01.840 back to would sad and create new product or did 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:06.600 you just stop period and just you know, kind of 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.680 see what happens until the world opens. 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:11.240 It was tough. 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.480 I mean, we went we were finishing an album as 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.600 Covid hit, and we kind of got that done and 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.920 got that, got that ready to go. But like Melbourne's Lockdown, 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:22.680 we're in it for like two hundred days. It was 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:24.279 one of the hardest lockdowns. 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:24.240 In the world. 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:26.800 And you couldn't you could only leave your house for 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.360 an hour a day. 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.279 There's a curfew in the evenings. Couldn't go from. 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:36.279 Eight pm till five am. You couldn't go outside your house. 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:37.560 Will you guys get it right? 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.920 You actually did it right, and you know, the world 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.800 would have actually caught up to you guys. And yeah, 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.480 because after some point, once we saw your numbers go down, 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.200 and then like a whole bunch of movie productions and 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.040 a lot of my friends in the industry, we're going 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.800 to melt, you know, going over over there, to Australia, 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.360 to New Zealand, over the Zealand. You guys are just 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:04.080 doing it right. So but yeah, you had to be 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:04.680 strict with it. 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:05.920 We had to be strict. 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:07.400 I mean the payoff was like we got to do 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.039 a show, you know, like now you know, and things 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.080 are opening up. But at the time it was hard 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.080 and we thought, well, we've got all this pre time 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.400 will be creative. But it was pretty intense and the 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:21.320 city was, you know, a ghost town. And really it 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.080 made me learn how much that we rely on the 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:27.800 collective energy and other people to feed our creativity. So 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.800 even though we had this spare time, like we didn't 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.280 write a lot last year because it was just kind 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:33.640 of getting through day by day. 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:34.800 You know, the lockdown was. 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:37.920 I'm very uninspiring. 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:42.039 Yeah, well, I was going to say, you know, I 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.240 still want to jump right to since I left you, 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:47.320 but I do because I don't know about guys personally. 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:49.680 I do want to know the origins of. 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.560 The group and of you two musically before you even 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.600 like what built to that moment. Could you just give 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:02.919 us a basic kind of an overlay of what your 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:07.120 lives were into creatively, like growing up, well, both of 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.840 you were DJs for starters, Like what got you interested 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:10.840 in DJ culture? 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.239 Like how did it hit you over there? 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:17.800 We actually, uh, well, we grew up in different suburbs 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.119 of Melbourne and then both ended up in the same 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.680 country town during high school and that's where we met 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:26.720 and became friends. And we weren't DJs initially. We were 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.680 like bad punk musicians. 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:34.600 And punk musicians. We say punk because we were so bad. 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:38.400 Yeah, it was noise, noise. 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:42.520 It's kind of like the Beastie Boys story, like boys, Yeah, yeah, 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:43.200 they started off. 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.440 Punk and then you know that's right, and we So 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.600 we were just I mean, I had no money or whatever, 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:51.600 so we were buying old guitars and broken guitars and 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:53.680 organs in junk stores, and then we started to find 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.280 all these old records and it just sort of grew 0:07:56.360 --> 0:08:00.360 from there. I was doing it called a film school 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:04.520 course at university, and they had a big studio for 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:08.240 all the film scores, and of course everybody doing that 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.960 course wanted to be like a famous director, so nobody 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.120 wanted to do the soundtrack. So I just had the 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.840 studio to myself for like three years, and there was 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.560 an old end sonic sampler in there that I learned 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:21.400 how to use and started sampling all these junk store 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.080 records and it just grew from there. 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:23.440 Really. 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.840 Yeah, So how were you when you made the transition 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:32.240 to DJ oriented music, like away from punk and more 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.319 into what we now know is DJ culture. 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:38.000 I guess it was like a gradual process between the 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:41.280 ages of like sixteen and twenty. 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:45.280 Okay, okay, Was there a particular record that just spoke 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.320 to you that said, like, Okay, this is the direction 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.720 I want to go personally for both of you. Was 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:55.280 there like one particular album that was for me? 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.319 It was like some of Prince Paul's productions, the Bomb Squad, 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:00.000 the things you meant. 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.920 Yeah, yeah, So Princeville, he just remixed Since I Left You. 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:04.720 That was excellent. 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:07.280 Yeah. 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.360 And because you know, like the records were finding in 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.000 junk stores were just strange, weird records. They weren't like 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:16.720 sort of cool, like a lot of the beautiful funk 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.920 and soul records from the States never made it out here, 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:22.120 you know, so we were they were junk store records. 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:23.840 It's a lot of music. 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.839 Exotic and strange stuff like that. 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.960 And Prince Paul, I think, showed us that, you know, 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.400 you can use anything and you can make music with 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:35.480 humor from from all these different bits and pieces, and 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.920 we were like, we can do that, you know. And 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.080 also we love like the Beach Boys and seventies rock 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.040 and stuff, so we thought, would imagine if we like 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.439 take his sort of approach, but like try and make 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:47.440 like pop songs with it. 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:48.959 And that's how the whole idea began. 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:54.000 So how did you two meet each other at high school? 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:58.080 We met in high school. I was from Melbourne and 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:03.040 at eighteen went and moved to the country town where 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:04.640 I met Robbie and it was It was a very 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.880 very for the for the early nineties, very backward kind 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:13.200 of place like Country Victoria and sorry. It was just 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.679 like a lot of football players and they were all 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.040 the cool people and stuff like that, and like so 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.400 the music people who are into music kind of gravitated 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:25.200 to each other. So so we kind of started hanging out. 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:28.240 And the first thing I remember that Robbie was like, 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:30.120 I was into all types of music, but he played 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:33.480 me my Bloody Valentine and that just kind of broke 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:37.000 my brain of like what the hell is this? And 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.480 I was like, all right, this is this is really cool. 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.480 I think I like this guy. I think I like 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.760 his taste in music. And so so from then then 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:47.480 on we kind of, you know, just had a few 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.360 other little small bands that we were in, and then 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.880 we both moved back down to Melbourne and started you know, 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:58.280 doing the punk thing just in our land room really badly, 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.000 and it just kind of grew from there. 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:02.959 Did y'all were y'all in of y'all folks involved in 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:05.800 music in any way? Or what did your parents do? 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:12.280 No? I mean my father would. My mom was a teacher, 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:14.800 but I did. I do remember being fascinated with my 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.280 father's record collection when I was a little kid, and 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:21.520 when he would let me, like, you know, handle the records, 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.280 I was obsessed with the line of notes and you 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:26.800 know he had he was like into like the band 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:27.720 and Bob Gil. 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.760 And the Neil Young and and all that stuff. 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:31.400 Single songwriter stuff. 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.240 That's right, gotcha. 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.480 I know that because you guys. 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:42.720 Developed early like pre I guess what ninety three ninety 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:44.880 four is when you guys first started. 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.880 So without sort of like culture. 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:53.040 Colonialism, well not culture colonialism, but just the the idea 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.320 of like you know, now with the Internet, someone could 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:58.640 release something in the entire world get it at the 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:04.480 same time where you know, really before in nineteen ninety seven, 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.680 like just it was regionalism, like certain parts of the 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.480 world had certain types of music or whatnot. Now I 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:14.560 know for Australia kind of the inside joke. And again 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.800 this is before like the really the age of the 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:22.480 internet spreading becoming law. Like a lot of groups that 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:27.880 were wildly popular from America that were wildly popular in 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:31.640 Australia really weren't that big in America. And I always 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.880 wanted to know I never got to talk to anyone 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:39.040 like specifically from Australia or New Zealand to find out why. 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:42.280 Like I'll say that there was a point where like 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:47.840 the Jurassic Five, pre Fergie, Black Eye Peas, Ben Harper, 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:52.040 like those acts could damn near sell out stadiums, and 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.880 we'd heard about the United States, like yo, man, do 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:56.480 you know the Black Eyed Peas could sell out a 0:12:56.520 --> 0:13:01.600 stadium in Australia. And this is again back when they 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.120 were just like a club act, like up bar. You 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.880 know that that's why, but what what? 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:07.440 What is it? 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:12.360 I noticed with Australia especially for their their embracing of 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.600 like soul music, Like you guys have that big giant 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.720 soul festival down there where you know, you guys have 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.400 this this this festival for soul music that's sort of 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:25.400 like Coachella, but it's just like all Neil soul artists 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:30.359 and even now everybody from Kim like and again I've 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:33.800 my friends have told me that, you know, New Zealand 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:39.520 and Australia, like we tend to lump just that entire 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:40.360 area one thing. 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.280 But you know, I see the right and you guys 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:47.040 are like, we're not the same. But but there's. 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:50.280 So many like minded cool artists from down there that 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.400 were like influenced by a certain type of soul music 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.600 that's very niche to us here, Like what what was 0:13:56.640 --> 0:14:00.400 the what's the radio like there? Like what is it 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:04.960 that turns you turn people onto that particular type of 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:08.079 soul music? Whereas now years later, like a lot of 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:11.679 these acts are coming out that are like really incredible, 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:12.560 like Hiatus. 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:12.880 Coyote and. 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:17.840 A Theme a Billion, But yeah, what is it about? 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:19.360 What was the music atmosphere? 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:22.040 Like it's a rock culture, I would say, like when 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:25.359 we were starting out, so it's like there's the pub venues. 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.120 You know, there's a very heavy drinking culture in Australia. 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.800 There's the pub venues and all the bands that we 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:32.800 grew up with came through this pub scene. It's like 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.600 hard rock and roll, like ACDC and this kind of thing. 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.520 I guess there's the Bad Seeds. You came in the 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:40.920 Bad Seeds as well, or the Birthday Party came out 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:45.080 of that sort of dark pub scene as well in Melbourne. 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.200 But then something started to change in the nineties exactly 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.120 like you're talking about. And I think it was just 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.440 it was pre internet, but people just just this passion 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.560 for music that wasn't like that. 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.480 And something just started beautiful to started to grow. I 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.520 don't know how happened, but. 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:05.040 It was very very like when we started playing. You know, 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:09.080 every band we played, which was just two guitars, bass player, drums, 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.800 and so we rock up with a sampler and the 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:13.200 sound people were like, what's this? 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:14.360 What do we do? 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.720 And no one knew what it was. So I was 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:19.400 like in that in that way we were kind of 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:23.160 breaking ground in this country as far as like every 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.120 little festival we'd do, it's like every band was the 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.120 same guitar, drums, everything like that, and then we just 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.760 have you know S nine hundred sampler and some shitty 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:37.840 organs that work sometimes and didn't and so so yeah, 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.400 to your question, it was a very rock and roll 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.240 culture back then in Australia. 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.520 So the was the S nine hundred. Was that did 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.560 your your weapon? That was the jam? 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:54.120 Yeah? Yeah, then they came with the nine fifty, the 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:56.760 nine fifty, I think that was the one that the 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:57.680 nine fifty. 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:00.000 We were loading. 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.720 We were loading off the songs off floppy disc. When 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.120 we played live, every song was on a different flopping. 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.680 So we'd stop a song and then have to load 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.280 for forty five seconds and just sit down and silence 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.520 or just try and make up some stupid banter in between. 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:26.920 Again again you guys and DiAngelo. Okay, that's good. To 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.440 this day, the Angelo still uses floppy disk I didn't 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.680 even know that. Oh wow that that can that still 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:36.280 and know they still made them? Yeah, you know how drive. 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:41.760 We had to search the internet to find floppy discs. 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:43.600 We just did. Yeah. 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.200 Wait, so to this day you still use it. That's 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:46.680 your weapon. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.640 When we were going to pull out the old samplers 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.440 for this show that we just did so we wanted 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.680 to bring back and really show how we made the music. 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:56.680 But we couldn't find floppy discs anyway. 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.760 Tiny had to order them online and arrived like two 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:02.400 days before the show, just in time. 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:06.680 So wow, Really we're not using that. 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.440 We're kind of using computers and now as our main 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.600 backing tracks, so we're not relying on the forty five 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.560 second loads anymore. But we use the sample is just 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:18.800 a triggle samples during the show because that's the way 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:20.280 we used to do it. I mean, and it's such 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:21.200 a fun you know. 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:22.960 It. 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.359 What was the period of which you guys discovered like 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:31.800 breakbeat culture and as far as like at least I 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.040 would like to think that you guys, you know, had 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.520 to put a lot of time in researching like all 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:41.120 the sounds and for you know, for your arsenal of sounds, 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.960 your drums, your samples and whatnot. So at what point 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.760 did you guys discover or at least like do away 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:53.360 with kind of your rock backdrop and get to what 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:54.800 we know is like breakbe culture. 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:59.360 I think it was like a gradual process and all 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.960 of a sudden realized, like I think we had, you know, 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:06.639 all these big sounds and big dreams in our heads, 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.280 but you know, no money, and then you start sampling 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:11.719 an old orchestral record, because a lot of the records 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:15.280 that we were finding junk stores were like schmaltzy kind 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:19.399 of like junk like Fifth Andres, Galant strings and games 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:22.520 all that stuff. But but we were we could find 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.440 beautiful little bits and then realized we can create these 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:30.200 you know, big sounds with you know, for from a 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:33.679 two dollar record. And we gradually realized, look, we're not 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:37.240 great musicians, that are, and we can't sing, but maybe 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:40.480 we can invent our own little world if we don't, 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:42.680 if we just use samples, And it sort of grew 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:46.000 from there, and then you know, a whole bunch of 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:51.960 records were coming out, Like the Gust Brothers produced the record, 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.359 and you know, there were early Chemical Brothers records, and 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:56.919 all these records had breakbeats. 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:57.360 There was. 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:04.680 Yeah, Daylight Soul, and even like the Fart Side Records 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:08.679 and all these kind of early hip hop records, and 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.080 we kind of in our you know, it's because we're 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:16.399 so geographically removed from the rest of the world. You know, 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.399 we would just get strange little influences coming through before 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:23.639 the Internet, So in some way we'd way like a 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:25.480 bit of Prince Paul, a bit of the Bomb Squad, 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:26.840 a bit of the Beach Boys, a bit of my 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:30.560 Bloody Valentine. All kind of made sense to us, and 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:34.520 we just kind of started developing our own sound from there. 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:40.040 When you formed the group, was it instantaneous that you 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:44.080 called yourself the Avalanches or were you just like you know, 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:47.639 DJ Robbie, DJ Tony. 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:56.040 We had a few we had a few name incarnations 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:58.800 before we came up with the Avalanches. 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:02.760 The Avalanche's name was actually on it was the surf 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:04.800 rock group from the fifties, one of these bands we 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:06.840 sampled and then and we used to change our name 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.840 every time we played, and that that one just stuck. 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:12.920 It just stuck. Oh, just randomly. 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.640 Maybe we had a good gig the day that we 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.239 called ourselves the Avalanches, and we went, this is an 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:23.320 open We'll stick with this name because I think we 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:26.240 had a few gigs where we were different names. 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:32.520 So what was the first product that you guys worked 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:36.320 on when you decided to form the Avalanches. 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:40.480 It was like, I think it was a mixtape we 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.480 made in the studio. I was talking about it the 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:47.000 film school studio that was made to send around to 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:50.600 various promoters to try and get a gig, try and 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.880 get shows. And then I think they pulled a couple 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:55.520 of tracks off that and our friend pulled it out 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:57.639 as our first seven inch that was called rock City. 0:20:58.560 --> 0:20:59.919 Yeah, I think that was the first release. 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:07.879 Yeah, yeah, even then, Like was your theory? What was 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:12.800 the theory based on how to create the music? I 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:16.600 know a lot of times, especially with where we are 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:20.880 today with hip hop culture in America, you know, and 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:25.359 I won't say that flipping samples of course, you know, 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.240