Speaker 1: Cool Zone Media. Welcome to sixteenth minute. I need to
Speaker 1: talk to you about a man named Elvis Presto.
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Speaker 3: Song I got pretty.
Speaker 4: Suppresto digitation Elvis Presto, it's feb BAMT.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're confused. What you just heard was a sixties
Speaker 1: style girl group. Think the Supremes impersonators, I guess talking
Speaker 1: over a very eighties looking bright colors and shapes digital screen,
Speaker 1: and then that fades to that same girl group addressing
Speaker 1: the camera in the middle of a gigantic, hacked football stadium.
Speaker 1: It's nineteen eighty nine. We're at the fucking Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and the headlining act for the halftime show is a
Speaker 1: man called Elvis Presto. Let's have a theoretical conversation. Wait
Speaker 1: a second, you say I've never heard of Elvis Presto.
Speaker 1: I roll my eyes and reply, I'm sorry. Try waking
Speaker 1: up for the first time in your life. Elvis Presto is,
Speaker 1: of course an Elvis impersonator who is also a magician,
Speaker 1: and so he's gonna arrive in the middle of the
Speaker 1: football field by way of some kind of magic who
Speaker 1: I didn't say great magic in that clip. Elvis Presto
Speaker 1: just kicked his way out of an old jukebox. He's
Speaker 1: not necessarily giving Elvis, but it's the beginning of the show.
Speaker 1: Let's give him a chance. You think was Elva is
Speaker 1: Presto a popular act in the eighties that I just
Speaker 1: never heard about? Oh no, I reply, this was a
Speaker 1: character made up for the Super Bowl. Okay, you think, Well,
Speaker 1: at least he's laid by a professional Elvis impersonator. Right, No,
Speaker 1: he's not. Hello baby, this man is not an Elvis impersonator.
Speaker 1: I checked. Okay, you say, then, surely he's a magician.
Speaker 3: Propert scheer.
Speaker 2: You're going on fun. This car trick's killing him.
Speaker 4: The first you have to pick the card kimal On,
Speaker 4: He comes and try for your card.
Speaker 1: He isn't a magician. The guy that plays Elvis Presto
Speaker 1: is not a magician. There is technically a feat of
Speaker 1: magic performed within this show, but it's all production. It's
Speaker 1: never Elvis Presto. There are so many things that happened
Speaker 1: in this twelve minute show, and none of them makes sense.
Speaker 1: It's awesome. There's hundreds of dancers and poodle skirts, there's
Speaker 1: guys on trampolines. There's flaming batons, one of which almost
Speaker 1: sets Elvis Presto on fire. There's one hundred motorcycles, and
Speaker 1: the central act is a character who was just made
Speaker 1: up a couple of weeks ago, performing quote unquote the
Speaker 1: world's largest card trick. And you won't believe this, but
Speaker 1: the world's Largest card trick didn't really translate to TV
Speaker 1: at all. But the idea was that there were four
Speaker 1: gigantic playing cards laid out on the field. Elvis Presto
Speaker 1: read the name of each card, and the crowd picked
Speaker 1: a card via applause, and then Presto the card. Everyone
Speaker 1: chose the King of Hearts, which was the only character
Speaker 1: and the only heart, so pretty easy to stack the
Speaker 1: deck there. But Elvis Presto knew all along it was
Speaker 1: going to be the King of Hearts. This is how
Speaker 1: it plays out.
Speaker 5: Which card it's gone The feed depends on just how
Speaker 5: loud you clap my friend card one, two, three, four,
Speaker 5: Now clap for.
Speaker 2: The card that you don't.
Speaker 5: The cards you only mister Presto knows.
Speaker 4: Prepare for my most mystifying feet.
Speaker 3: The cards you childs.
Speaker 2: There's some lead your.
Speaker 1: Seat, and at this point, all of the dancers turn
Speaker 1: a card over to reveal a gigantic King of Hearts,
Speaker 1: and the audience is asked to flip their seat cushions over,
Speaker 1: where there's also a picture of the King of a hearts. Wow,
Speaker 1: I love this. This trick belongs at a kid named
Speaker 1: Evan's birthday party. But we're at the super Bowl. So no,
Speaker 1: the man on the field isn't Elvis and he isn't Presto.
Speaker 1: But you asked me, Well, this guy is an actor, right,
Speaker 1: He's at least been cast for the part of Elvis Presto.
Speaker 1: He didn't just, for example, have to fill in for
Speaker 1: someone else and learn all of the choreography in three days,
Speaker 1: explaining why he doesn't sing live vocals, doesn't perform any magic,
Speaker 1: and doesn't look anything like Elvis. Well, here's an interview
Speaker 1: with a guy who played Elvis Presto from an NFL
Speaker 1: short doc back in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6: After Solid Gold, I moved into choreography. I got a
Speaker 6: gig to choreograph the Super Bowl or Reagan Patno was
Speaker 6: our lead and he was perfect. He was like a
Speaker 6: blonde Elvis. He got a Lee Jean's commercial three days
Speaker 6: before the super Bowl and decided to quit the super
Speaker 6: Bowl and go do the Lee Jean's commercial. So it
Speaker 6: was like, okay, now what so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he wasn't Elvis, he wasn't Presto, he wasn't an actor,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't a singer. And at this point in
Speaker 1: our theoretical conversation, your head is dangling off your fucking neck,
Speaker 1: and you're like Jamie at very least the bare minimum.
Speaker 1: Surely the musical selection that Elvis Presto plays are Elvis songs,
Speaker 1: doesn't He doesn't.
Speaker 3: He's crazy.
Speaker 1: No, No, he doesn't play a single Elvis song outside
Speaker 1: of saying hunka hunk of burning Love in a transition
Speaker 1: one time. Not a single Elvas song was licensed for
Speaker 1: this performance. Nor has this man done an Elvis impression before,
Speaker 1: Nor can he do magic or sing. This man had
Speaker 1: never appeared on television and never would again. He now
Speaker 1: owns a yoga studio in Portland, Oregon. It's my favorite
Speaker 1: thing I've ever learned. I have been healed by this information. Also,
Speaker 1: this super Bowl show was allegedly filmed and broadcasted in
Speaker 1: three D? Why did they call it? Bebop? Bamboozled? Oh boy.
Speaker 1: And because great artistry is never recognized in its day,
Speaker 1: and I guess not for thirty five full years after
Speaker 1: its day. People don't talk much about the Elvis Presto
Speaker 1: super Bowl halftime show today, one thing I hope to
Speaker 1: be a small part of rectifying here. But in spite
Speaker 1: of that, this is still a historically consequential super Bowl
Speaker 1: halftime show because when I thought of halftime shows prior
Speaker 1: to the sacred knowledge of Elvis Presto, I thought of
Speaker 1: basically a Vegas show for the entire world where a
Speaker 1: generational artist plays their hits, does a million costume changes,
Speaker 1: invites their past collaborators to play one of their songs.
Speaker 1: There's pyrotechnics, there's acrobats. In Usher's case last year, I
Speaker 1: remember there being roller skates. It's a huge victory lap
Speaker 1: for a musician's career that isn't just for their fans.
Speaker 1: It's a world stage event. But upon further investigation, the
Speaker 1: super Bowl has been going on for fifty eight years
Speaker 1: and this big concert aspect has only been true of
Speaker 1: the halftime show for about the last thirty years. Before that,
Speaker 1: you got mostly colorful marching band slash baton twirling kind
Speaker 1: of standard fare. Here's the former NFL Director of Special Events,
Speaker 1: Jim Steeg, talking about what the approach to the halftime
Speaker 1: show was pre Elvis Presto.
Speaker 3: You really found very few name stars involved.
Speaker 1: It was more about filling the field with color.
Speaker 3: And music, dancing stoke flakes.
Speaker 1: The Super Bowl has been going on since nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: seven and was originally called the AFL NFL World Championship Game,
Speaker 1: and they would generally do what football halftime shows had
Speaker 1: been doing since the late eighteen hundreds in the US
Speaker 1: and still at American high schools today. There were marching bands,
Speaker 1: there were dancers, there were cheerleaders, there were demented levels
Speaker 1: of needless patriotism, and in the case of the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: usually a celebrity guest or two who would sing an
Speaker 1: American standard. In the early days of the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: this meant guests like Carol Channing, Ella Fitzgerald, and Andy
Speaker 1: Williams who performed a song or two in the halftime
Speaker 1: show in the seventies. In the eighties, shows were majority
Speaker 1: by nonprofit and military performance organizations with themes like Salute
Speaker 1: to Motown, Hollywood's one hundredth Anniversary, and honestly a bunch
Speaker 1: of bought and paid for Disney ads that stretched well
Speaker 1: into the nineties that kind of wound up just being
Speaker 1: a Disneyland parade on a football field. Quick side note,
Speaker 1: these weird Disney shows would go into the nineties as well.
Speaker 1: My favorite was a really bizarre nineteen ninety five halftime
Speaker 1: show that was meant to advertise the Indiana Jones show
Speaker 1: at disney World, but they also put Patti Labella in
Speaker 1: it as a character.
Speaker 7: Wow, Indiana Jones.
Speaker 2: You've got jet drop it back.
Speaker 1: So now tell me show what nixt.
Speaker 4: I've given a Jode Old winner of super Bowl twenty nine.
Speaker 1: That's the right attitude. Waby interesting full halftime show if
Speaker 1: you want to watch it. I was entertained. But in
Speaker 1: the late eighties the Super Bowl team was interested in
Speaker 1: creating more spectacle around the halftime show. The year before,
Speaker 1: Elvis Presto a contracted Radio City Music Hall to put
Speaker 1: a show together that featured Chubby Checker and the Roquettes
Speaker 1: and started to pull back from the standard marching band.
Speaker 1: Fair but it's still not white there. Chubby Checker is
Speaker 1: still very much the featured act, it's not his halftime show.
Speaker 1: And then along came Elvis Presto, and sure people fucking
Speaker 1: hated it, but there's no other act in the show
Speaker 1: but him, and that was a first. Here's a particularly
Speaker 1: scathing review.
Speaker 4: The reigning principle was excess too many dancers, too many
Speaker 4: pastel colors, and the whole thing went on too long.
Speaker 4: Mister Presto's last trick was his best. He and the
Speaker 4: cast of thousands disappeared.
Speaker 1: You know what else people hated when it came out,
Speaker 1: Citizen Kane, probably.
Speaker 4: So Elvis Presco, Hey, baby.
Speaker 1: Okay, Elvis Presto happens in nineteen eighty nine, and then
Speaker 1: everyone quietly agrees that will never happen again. Nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: doesn't improve very much. There are iconic performers like Irma Thomas,
Speaker 1: but the theme is Charlie Brown's Birthday, you complete with
Speaker 1: these terrifying peanuts mascot costumes. Nineteen ninety one has New
Speaker 1: Kids on the Block headlining, but even they have to
Speaker 1: follow Roger Rabbit and Goofy breakdancing and an entire chorus
Speaker 1: of It's a Small World. In ninety two, Gloria A.
Speaker 1: Stefan kind of had to split the bill with US
Speaker 1: Olympic figure skaters and an entire hockey team. But in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three, the formula is locked in. This is
Speaker 1: the year that Michael Jackson headlines, and we start to
Speaker 1: see the halftime show as what we think of it today.
Speaker 1: You weren't just getting a ticket to the biggest football
Speaker 1: game on the planet. You were also getting a ticket
Speaker 1: to one of the hottest concerts possible. After Michael Jackson,
Speaker 1: it's after the races for pop and rock megastars headlining
Speaker 1: the halftime show, with the exception of the Indiana Jones thing.
Speaker 1: Let's hear it again. Wow, Indiana Jones, You've got Judge
Speaker 1: ot agay, So now tell me shut up west Nick, sure, Patty.
Speaker 1: The nineties brought big shows from headliners like Diana Ross,
Speaker 1: a huge Motown salute, Gloria a step fun with Stevie
Speaker 1: Wonder instead of a hockey team. That's an improvement. And
Speaker 1: in the two thousands the show really hit its stride
Speaker 1: because that's when I started forming memories, and so that's
Speaker 1: when history began. Just kidding, history began here, Ah, sorry, okay,
Speaker 1: the two thousands, post nine to eleven, we had a
Speaker 1: U two headlined halftime show. In two thousand and two
Speaker 1: with Bono's little American flag jacket. He's Irish and I
Speaker 1: thought anti war, but sure. We had a very chaotic
Speaker 1: two thousand and four that led to the infamous Janet
Speaker 1: Jackson quote unquote wardrobe malfunction, sending justin Timberlake to the
Speaker 1: gutters of history. We had the best halftime show of
Speaker 1: all time from Prince in two thousand and seven, and
Speaker 1: want to remember really enjoying from Bruce Springsteen in two
Speaker 1: thousand and nine.
Speaker 2: I won't you just step back from the quack of
Speaker 2: hole it?
Speaker 3: Devin, how about you that shit get things down. I'm
Speaker 3: turning your television.
Speaker 1: But by the early twenty tens was star ording to
Speaker 1: run out of establishment rock acts to headline, starting the
Speaker 1: decade with The Who, and then leaning heavily into pop acts.
Speaker 1: The Black Eyed Peas, a really fun Madonna show, Beyonce
Speaker 1: in a close second to Prince for the all time
Speaker 1: best halftime show. Then came Bruno Mars, and on February first,
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, pop star Katy Perry headlined at what ended
Speaker 1: up being one of the most memorable halftime shows ever
Speaker 1: in Glendale, Arizona, and whether you were a fan or not,
Speaker 1: This was peak Katy Perry. If you haven't watched it
Speaker 1: in almost ten years, let me remind you of what
Speaker 1: the show was like. It starts big and silly, what
Speaker 1: Perry was known for at the time, and she enters
Speaker 1: on this gigantic gilded lion puppet with glowing red eyes.
Speaker 1: It's pretty awesome. She's saddled onto the lion in address
Speaker 1: covered in Guy Fieri flames, and she's singing her hit
Speaker 1: Roar and singing live shout.
Speaker 2: Out to that.
Speaker 1: She gets to the stage, dismounts the gigantic lion puppet,
Speaker 1: and then launches into the next song, dark Horse, And
Speaker 1: the second she hits the stage, there's dancers, and the
Speaker 1: way Katy Perry had dancers at this time was very specific.
Speaker 1: It's really campy, really over the top. The led stage
Speaker 1: becomes this huge chessboard, and her dancers, complete with their
Speaker 1: faces painted in silver, are sexy chest pieces like flipping
Speaker 1: and dancing their asses off. Awesome. She moves her way
Speaker 1: across the stage and launches into the next hit. And
Speaker 1: by the way, this is the only Super Bowl show
Speaker 1: ever that featured all number one hits. Her first guest artist,
Speaker 1: Lenny Kravitz, comes out Who's looking full Lenny Kravitz leather jacket,
Speaker 1: jeans the whole bit, and he does a cover of
Speaker 1: her early hit, problematic Bisexual anthem, I kissed a girl
Speaker 1: back before out queer pop stars were legal, I don't know.
Speaker 1: The two sing a chillingly heterosexual duet, and then the
Speaker 1: set changes into a California beach and we head into
Speaker 1: the next song, all timer pop anthem teenage Dream. We're
Speaker 1: approaching the halfway mark of the show now and Katy
Speaker 1: Perry does her first abrupt costume change, and the dancers
Speaker 1: have changed too. No longer dresses chess pieces. Many of
Speaker 1: them are now dressed as anthropomorphic Disneyland style grinning palm trees, surfboards,
Speaker 1: beach balls, and sharks. Katie comes out in a primary
Speaker 1: colored beach ball inspired dress and the character dancers kind
Speaker 1: of bob around her. Something that always stuck out to
Speaker 1: me is that the beach balls had these little teeth.
Speaker 1: I hate when things have teeth and they don't have teeth.
Speaker 1: The cars from cars, regardless. The costumes are elaborate, and
Speaker 1: the anthropomorphic characters have these mouths that move in time
Speaker 1: with the music while the dancers are inside them. And
Speaker 1: as we head into the chorus of Teenage Dream, Katie
Speaker 1: is flanked by two bright blue costume sharks. The costume's
Speaker 1: mouth along to the words of the chorus, and the
Speaker 1: dancers do their thing. But as the chorus is ending,
Speaker 1: viewers across the world begin to notice that the shark
Speaker 1: on the left side of the screen seems to have
Speaker 1: maybe lost the thread a little. He's dancing a little
Speaker 1: out of sink. He slaps himself in the face, and
Speaker 1: then he kind of just like wings it. This happens
Speaker 1: very quickly. The whole thing takes less than five seconds,
Speaker 1: and then the sharks are both locked into the choreography
Speaker 1: for the rest of the show. But the moment has
Speaker 1: already been screen grab This was a Super Bowl that
Speaker 1: was not just watched on TV, but experienced in real
Speaker 1: time on social media, and so within seconds, an online
Speaker 1: phenomenon still remembered to this day was born. Left Shark.
Speaker 1: Brian gaw Your sixteenth Minute starts now. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: sixteenth Minute, the podcast where we interview the Internet characters
Speaker 1: of the day from time gone by to see how
Speaker 1: their big moment affected them and what it says about
Speaker 1: the Internet and US and today. I'm speaking with the
Speaker 1: infamous Left Shark from the Katy Perry Super Bowl halftime
Speaker 1: show back in twenty fifteen. This is a true sixteenth
Speaker 1: minute exclusive. It's only the second interview that Left Shark
Speaker 1: has done ever in almost ten years, and spoiler alert
Speaker 1: him so much. He's awesome. But to fully appreciate his story,
Speaker 1: I think we need to take a closer look at
Speaker 1: what and why this moment happened, because, like millions of
Speaker 1: other people, I very much remember seeing this in real time.
Speaker 1: I was babysitting my boss's kids because I wasn't being
Speaker 1: paid enough by my boss, and so their solution was
Speaker 1: take care of my kids while I go to my
Speaker 1: friend's Super Bowl party. Anyway, the kids and I were
Speaker 1: watching this, and I probably tweeted about left Shark in
Speaker 1: the moment. So buckle in, part your hair to the
Speaker 1: side and come with me if you dare to. February
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, Harper Lee is announced to be releasing a
Speaker 1: second book called Go Set a Watchman, prompting allegations that
Speaker 1: she was forced into publishing via elder abuse. Brian Williams
Speaker 1: goes on hiatus after being caught lying about being in
Speaker 1: a helicopter that was shot down in the Iraq War.
Speaker 1: Remember that? And pop star Katy Perry headlined the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl halftime show with surprise guests Lenny Kravitz and Missy Elliott.
Speaker 1: By the way, yeah, Missy fucking Elliott left. Shark became
Speaker 1: the main thing that this halftime show was remembered for.
Speaker 1: But let's not forget Missy Elliott was the surprise guest
Speaker 1: on this show, and right after the Sharks clear the stage,
Speaker 1: she comes out of nowhere and performs get your freak
Speaker 1: on and Work It, before the show concludes with Katie
Speaker 1: Perry singing firework while flying through the audience on a
Speaker 1: gigantic shooting star prop that kind of looked like the
Speaker 1: More You Know logo. It was a really good show,
Speaker 1: making the fact that lef Shark was the main takeaway
Speaker 1: for a lot of people all the more remarkable. Before
Speaker 1: we get into how the show came together, a quick disclaimer.
Speaker 1: Because I'm talking about the Super Bowl and therefore the
Speaker 1: NFL this week, I want to be clear about a
Speaker 1: few things. I do feel the need to say that
Speaker 1: the NFL is a demonstrably dogshit organization from just about
Speaker 1: any angle you look at it from This was true
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen and would only become more true in
Speaker 1: the years to come. The year after this halftime show,
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick famously took a knee during the US national
Speaker 1: anthem at a game to protest racial inequality and police brutality,
Speaker 1: which brought his professional career to a screeching halt soon after,
Speaker 1: leading to lawsuits between Kaepernick and the league. That's not
Speaker 1: to mention how the NFL has historically ignored the rampant CTE,
Speaker 1: traumatic brain injuries brought on by players repeated concussions that
Speaker 1: have destroyed players' lives and led to the death of many.
Speaker 1: The NFL has never confronted this, and even went as
Speaker 1: far to intimidate scientists who were studying CTE in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: There's the matter of massive NFL stadiums uprooting entire communities,
Speaker 1: most often poor communities, and these rotten to the core
Speaker 1: issues with the NFL is what's caused some musicians to
Speaker 1: turn down playing the Super Bowl in the past, most
Speaker 1: notably Rihanna, Pink and Cardi b in solidarity with Colin
Speaker 1: Kaepernick back in twenty nineteen. Although Rihanna did later do
Speaker 1: the super Bowl in twenty twenty three, so I guess
Speaker 1: she got over it. Don't yell at me. I'm a
Speaker 1: Rihanna fan, but like, come on anyways, I did want
Speaker 1: to acknowledge that reality before digging into this Super Bowl
Speaker 1: halftime show story, because admittedly there is my oo shiny, awesome,
Speaker 1: pretty show with fireworks brain. That means I generally still
Speaker 1: tune into the halftime show almost every year, and in general,
Speaker 1: Americans are just weirdly into the super Bowl. The amount
Speaker 1: of bizarre, campy media that exists around the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: is hard to quantify it. If you don't believe me,
Speaker 1: Here's a clip of the Chicago Bears singing nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: five's novelty single, the super Bowl shuffle.
Speaker 3: Shot.
Speaker 1: The song is very famous. I can't account for it.
Speaker 1: The song has ten verses and was nominated for a Grammy.
Speaker 1: But don't worry. The New England Patriots also made a
Speaker 1: novelty song about wanting to win the Super Bowl that year.
Speaker 1: Huge l for New England. It's just embarrassing. Sorry, just
Speaker 1: one more. In nineteen eighty six, the Los Angeles Rams
Speaker 1: recorded a novelty rap song that is basically horn.
Speaker 3: This is limousine money, my movies like Dreams. They call
Speaker 3: me the domn Ahose Special Teams. I know how to
Speaker 3: run from the toes to the head. When I pull
Speaker 3: the to the eye, knock you did.
Speaker 1: I'm a mountain man from West Va. They call me
Speaker 1: Hursk and I came to play. I learned long ago.
Speaker 1: If the rama just rights, you can ram it all day.
Speaker 2: And ram it all night.
Speaker 1: The super Bowl is deeply American. It's big, it's annoying,
Speaker 1: it's bad for the world, and people have a lot
Speaker 1: of fun watching it. Anyways, the year that Katy Perry performed,
Speaker 1: the team's playing were the New England Patriots and the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. And that will be the last time I
Speaker 1: will be talking about the teams because for my money,
Speaker 1: the left Shark moment defined this entire broadcast. Think about
Speaker 1: moments that have stuck with you from halftime shows of yore.
Speaker 1: The Rihanna pregnancy reveal from twenty twenty three, Lady Gaga
Speaker 1: jumping off a building at the beginning of her show
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, Mia flipping off the camera before the
Speaker 1: broadcast had time to cut it during Madonna's show in
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, and most infamously ever, the Janet Jackson Justin
Speaker 1: Timberlake wardrobe malfunction from two thousand and four that slowed
Speaker 1: Janet Jackson's career to a crawl in spite of the
Speaker 1: fact that she had done nothing except have a nipple,
Speaker 1: and Justin Timberlake went on to headline a super Bowl show,
Speaker 1: only seeing his complicity in this incident catch up with
Speaker 1: him in the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: What tour the world tour.
Speaker 1: Now you'll notice that all these stories have to do
Speaker 1: with these celebrities at the center of the show, leaving
Speaker 1: Left Shark in a class of his own. Because sure,
Speaker 1: Left Shark was a part of the Katy Perry Show,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't planned. The moment was not defined by her.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a tabloid moment, It wasn't a scandal, it
Speaker 1: wasn't a carefully engineered reveal. Left Shark's going rogue was
Speaker 1: something weird and organic that brought social media together. But
Speaker 1: this was a single moment inside of a gigantic show
Speaker 1: that had been worked on for months. So to give
Speaker 1: you an idea of how unbelievably complicated it was to
Speaker 1: bring this and all contemporary Super Bowl halftime shows together.
Speaker 1: Here's an approximate timeline of how long the Katy Perry
Speaker 1: Show took to come together, because of course there's a
Speaker 1: documentary about it, and of course I watched it twice.
Speaker 1: So the actual Super Bowl show happens on February first,
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, but the first rumblings of a Katie halftime
Speaker 1: show start in August twenty fourteen, when the shortlist is
Speaker 1: revealed to be Katy Perry, Rihanna, and Coldplay, and The
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal reported that there were pay to play rumors,
Speaker 1: which means their record labels would pay the NFL a
Speaker 1: premium in order to get them booked. The NFL denied this,
Speaker 1: and they famously love to tell the truth, so I say,
Speaker 1: let's believe them. But whatever happened or didn't happen, Katie
Speaker 1: Perry was in and Coldplay and Rihanna would play the
Speaker 1: super Bowl in the next ten years, so whatever proper
Speaker 1: planning started in fall twenty fourteen, and Katy Perry said
Speaker 1: from the beginning that she wants a guest artist to
Speaker 1: surprise the audience, and the same big, colorful aesthetic of
Speaker 1: her touring show. Billboard announced she would be the lead
Speaker 1: act in October twenty fourteen, and the NFL confirmed in
Speaker 1: November and through the end of that year, while she
Speaker 1: and her dancers were on the Prismatic World Tour in
Speaker 1: the US, Katie's team was communicating and planning their vision
Speaker 1: to the go to group of Super Bowl halftime organizers.
Speaker 1: Logistics while she's gone include designing and constructing a stage
Speaker 1: unique to this specific stadium in more than eight hundred
Speaker 1: original costumes. Katie and the dancers finished the tour on
Speaker 1: December twentieth, and after the holiday break, it was all
Speaker 1: hands on deck to learn an entirely different show than
Speaker 1: they were doing on tour. So about a month to
Speaker 1: rehearse a show for one hundred and twenty million people.
Speaker 1: This is from the documentary.
Speaker 8: We got to physically rehearse for one month straight. First,
Speaker 8: we were in a dance studio, because you don't get
Speaker 8: to always rehearse in a stadium.
Speaker 9: They're boiling down six months of work every day, all
Speaker 9: hours of the day, seven days a week, boils down
Speaker 9: to twelve and a half minutes, and there those twelve
Speaker 9: and a half minutes, everything's got to go right.
Speaker 1: And in this rehearsal footage you can see the man
Speaker 1: who would soon be left Shark. They start rehearsing in
Speaker 1: the stadium in Glendale, Arizona, on January eleventh, and the
Speaker 1: infrastructure is massive. There is eighteen thousand square feet of
Speaker 1: led stage. There's flame cannons, there's a ten million dollar budget.
Speaker 1: Five hundred stage hands are there to rehearse assembling and
Speaker 1: disassembling the stage in the space of a single commercial break,
Speaker 1: and the whole crew is run by a Vietnam vette.
Speaker 1: They literally run this shit like the military.
Speaker 9: So we have two surf forwards, a palm trees, four
Speaker 9: be swells, two sharks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're so.
Speaker 1: By mid January, Katy Perry is rehearsing on the gigantic
Speaker 1: prismatic lion puppet. Missy Elliott and her dancers come in
Speaker 1: to start rehearsing. There's this amazing moment when Brian gaw
Speaker 1: is in his shark costume and he and Katie goof
Speaker 1: around in their mouths all moved.
Speaker 3: What do you think that, TV?
Speaker 8: Do you feel like you have a handle on that costume,
Speaker 8: Like you're not gonna go timber at any point?
Speaker 1: Honestly, No, this is pretty easy, iconic and you see
Speaker 1: her talking with her dancers wearing the huge costumes and
Speaker 1: making sure they're comfortable. They perfect rapid costume changes. There's
Speaker 1: a flying rehearsal, camera rehearsal, they film promos. Hi, I'm
Speaker 1: Katy Perry, pop star.
Speaker 8: Welcome to my halftime show testing facilities.
Speaker 1: We're testing. Finally, after six months of planning, it's Super
Speaker 1: Bowl Eve. Katy Perry appears to have micro managed this
Speaker 1: event down to the micro detail. And the night before
Speaker 1: she has this premonition that the Sharks will be the
Speaker 1: star of the show.
Speaker 8: You don't understand that, like, the Sharks are going to
Speaker 8: get so much love on life.
Speaker 1: You just heard the voice of Scott Merrick aka Wright Shark.
Speaker 1: He's actually still a working dancer and was one of
Speaker 1: the dancing Kens at the Oscars last year. And then
Speaker 1: it's the day of the Super Bowl. Katy Perry was
Speaker 1: a pastor's daughter, I guess.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: In this room full of her dancers dressed as chess
Speaker 1: pieces and Lenny Kravitz and Missy Elliott, she gives a
Speaker 1: pep talk with prayer where I pray God that you
Speaker 1: will look after us.
Speaker 8: Thank you so much for this incredible opportunity.
Speaker 1: And we know it's because.
Speaker 8: Of you, because you have chosen us, and we believe
Speaker 8: that we are exactly where we are supposed to be
Speaker 8: today at this moment, and we will be present and conscious,
Speaker 8: and we will smile, and we will live in this
Speaker 8: twelve and.
Speaker 1: A half note it, and then the huge show happens
Speaker 1: and one of the Sharks did this thing at some point,
Speaker 1: But after they get off stage, it seems like the
Speaker 1: cruise takeaway is Wow, that went really well, instantly, well
Speaker 1: reviewed and declared one of the best halftime shows ever.
Speaker 1: It causes this huge spike in Katy perry music sales,
Speaker 1: everything you would hope from a performance of that scale.
Speaker 1: And if you'll permit me to make it quick aside,
Speaker 1: it's just interesting that Katy Perry needed months to put
Speaker 1: this show together because my favorite Super Bowl act learned
Speaker 1: his entire part in three days. Who But by the
Speaker 1: time the stage had been disassembled for New England to
Speaker 1: win the game, there had been three million tweets about
Speaker 1: the halftime show in the thirteen minutes it was airing,
Speaker 1: and the Lion, the Shooting Star and the costumes made
Speaker 1: a lot of conversation, but there was a clear favorite moment,
Speaker 1: but everyone's favorite moment had nothing to do with this
Speaker 1: six months of planning.
Speaker 4: Guess who, Katie, did you forget your routine again? Left Shark,
Speaker 4: Left Shark? No, Katie, don't lie to me. Left Shark,
Speaker 4: Left Shark Yes.
Speaker 1: I guess it's up to me to decide. Am I
Speaker 1: going to be a right shark or a left shark today?
Speaker 4: Hashtag deep every time I get sad about the Seahawks,
Speaker 4: I will turn to left shark.
Speaker 1: If you were wondering, that was me and the shark costume.
Speaker 1: That last tweet was Snoop Dogg. And while it takes
Speaker 1: people a little time to catch on, Brian Gaw reveals
Speaker 1: himself as left Shark the night of the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: by posting a screenshot of Katy Perry with the sharks
Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter with this caption.
Speaker 4: Yep, the rumors are true, yours truly, And.
Speaker 1: The next day he shares a picture of himself dressed
Speaker 1: as a rook in the chest sequence. Throughout the rest
Speaker 1: of the night, the left Shark meme Edits came in
Speaker 1: fast and heavy. There was left Shark being beamed into
Speaker 1: the sky like the bat signal. There was left Shark
Speaker 1: on the poster of Jaws, there was Left Shark looming
Speaker 1: behind llll coolj and Deep Blue Sea. And sure there
Speaker 1: were a few people who were being mean to Left Shark,
Speaker 1: saying that he messed up the choreography, but by and large,
Speaker 1: it was a stunningly positive moment, the kind you don't
Speaker 1: get very often on the Internet. Left Shark became the
Speaker 1: rare main character with all but no negative backlash. It
Speaker 1: was a mystery of identity, and because it was the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, mainstream media was all over Left Shark. The
Speaker 1: next morning, Katie Perry, from the bottom of my heart,
Speaker 1: thank you for left Shark.
Speaker 7: How did you like the dancing sharks and the one
Speaker 7: who went rogue and started doing the macarena that looked
Speaker 7: like it was from Saturday Night?
Speaker 3: Hear this?
Speaker 7: The shark's screen Left was a killer, noted one sports blog,
Speaker 7: Left Shark failed out of choreography school. On Twitter, they
Speaker 7: were compared to the hologram shark from Back to the Future.
Speaker 1: Left Shark became the human interest fintrest no the human
Speaker 1: interest story of the day, but most of the reporting
Speaker 1: about him in the first wave is either about the
Speaker 1: perceived miss choreography or about how much the Internet loved him.
Speaker 1: He was everywhere, and the suggestion that the dancer messed
Speaker 1: up the choreography was so outsized in the first day
Speaker 1: that a series of things happened. First halftime show choreographer r. J.
Speaker 1: Durrell came out on Monday to say that left Shark
Speaker 1: did nothing wrong. In the Hollywood Reporter, this was the headline.
Speaker 4: Katie Perry's choreographer, Left Shark nailed it.
Speaker 1: Here's the story.
Speaker 4: The Sharks were given two main objectives, Perry's choreographer RJ.
Speaker 4: Derell tells thhr one perform Katie's trademark moves to the
Speaker 4: teenage Dream Chorus, which they both did perfectly, and two
Speaker 4: to have loads of fun and bring to life these
Speaker 4: characters in a cartoon manner, giving them a tweetledd Tweedledum
Speaker 4: type persona clearly that was portrayed with the over zealous
Speaker 4: shark on the right hitting precise dance moves, while the
Speaker 4: left Shark, Durell says, was playing up a more goofy,
Speaker 4: fun spirited sports fan mascot type that was just happy
Speaker 4: to be at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And interestingly, at the end of this article, Durell leans
Speaker 1: into the already developing narrative around left Shark.
Speaker 4: Don't forget we all have a little hashtag left shark.
Speaker 2: In US hashtag.
Speaker 1: Indeed, Katy Perry herself tweets out her support of the
Speaker 1: meme the night after the Super Bowl with an illustrated
Speaker 1: graphic of an embarrassed left Shark with text reading you
Speaker 1: the real MVP. And while the reveal of Brian Gaul
Speaker 1: was very satisfying, as well as the reassurance that left
Speaker 1: Shark's notoriety wasn't going to affect his livelihood, doesn't really
Speaker 1: stay the focus of the story here. It becomes this
Speaker 1: pretty wholesome be yourself message that catches on do your
Speaker 1: thing with passion and the world will appreciate you. And
Speaker 1: so for the next few days, there are some pretty
Speaker 1: funny standard fifteen minutes of fame things that happen. A
Speaker 1: guy gets the left Shark tattoo, people dressed as the
Speaker 1: left and right Sharks appeared in a SportsCenter ad and
Speaker 1: on the Late Late Show with John Mayer didn't look
Speaker 1: into it further, but drama it would appear that Katy
Speaker 1: Perry's team wanted to make sure that the left Shark
Speaker 1: phenomenon wasn't making money for random people. By February sixth,
Speaker 1: her team had issued a cease and assist to Orlando
Speaker 1: artist Fernando Sosa for selling three D printed left Shark toys.
Speaker 1: By February tenth, Sosa's lawyer had fired back, saying.
Speaker 4: We also wonder what Katy Perry could possibly stand to
Speaker 4: gain from declaring war on an internet meme.
Speaker 1: Well, what she stood to gain was revealed in March
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, when the CA Katy Perry stores started selling
Speaker 1: officially licensed Shark onesies, advertised with this tweet Attention Internet,
Speaker 1: no longer do you have to diy left shark costume.
Speaker 1: You can now be a proper hashtag left shark with
Speaker 1: this official glorious hashtag left Shark onesie. This was launched
Speaker 1: alongside an officially licensed left sharked T shirt. And I
Speaker 1: will say that merch is a pretty common refraining with
Speaker 1: main characters, with people like Hawkta Girl and previously thirty
Speaker 1: to fifty Faral Hogs Guy. People will sometimes create their
Speaker 1: own merch in order to combat opportunistic people capitalizing on
Speaker 1: their image or catchphrase or idea. I do think that
Speaker 1: it made sense that Katy Perry did this, but it
Speaker 1: looks a little different when a millionaire pop star is
Speaker 1: doing it. Because Brian didn't seem to profit from the
Speaker 1: meme himself and didn't really seem interested in it, turning
Speaker 1: down most interview requests. After Brian's identity was revealed, it
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he has much else to do with
Speaker 1: the story in the short term, but Katie d Perry
Speaker 1: and her team stay at it. By April twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: Katie posted a photo with a Coachella trash can styled
Speaker 1: to look like Left Shark. That same month, it revealed
Speaker 1: that her team had been rejected for various attempts to
Speaker 1: trademark the character with the US Trademark Office. The requests
Speaker 1: included trademarking the costume design, as well as phrase's Left Shark,
Speaker 1: Bright Shark, drunk Shark, and basking Shark, trips off the
Speaker 1: Tongue March Wars. Aside, Left Shark had a weird amount
Speaker 1: of staying power throughout twenty fifteen. Most notably, he came
Speaker 1: up in a commencement speech at Boston University given by
Speaker 1: Meredith Vieira. Here it is stay away from afex better
Speaker 1: yet be the Left Shark remember last Super Bowl when
Speaker 1: the Patriots won. Yeah, Well, and at this point in
Speaker 1: this speak, someone in a Left Shark costume comes out
Speaker 1: and it becomes a lesson about doing your own thing.
Speaker 1: The NFL has also repeatedly made reference to this moment
Speaker 1: to this day. Left Shark is mentioned in the official
Speaker 1: YouTube upload of the Katy Perry halftime show, crediting the
Speaker 1: three musical artists and Left Shark not even the director
Speaker 1: of the broadcast. This Shark's power is raw power. And
Speaker 1: it's just interesting because confident imperfection was not always tolerated
Speaker 1: on that stage, was it. Who oh hmm? And so
Speaker 1: Left Shark had become the rare feel good character, and
Speaker 1: as always, eventually the internet moved on. Katy Perry and
Speaker 1: her dancers flew out to Spain to resume the Prismatic
Speaker 1: World tour on February sixteenth, twenty fifteen. Brian gaw went
Speaker 1: with them. He was publicly known to be Left Shark.
Speaker 1: He'd been defended and celebrated by his peers, and he
Speaker 1: returned to dancing. Something I found interesting researching this story
Speaker 1: is that it's consistently the Katy Perry team that continues
Speaker 1: to make this big deal out of Left Shark, Never
Speaker 1: Brian Gaw. It's the team that owns the costume, the
Speaker 1: team that tries to do the trademark. I mean, Brian
Speaker 1: certainly enjoys the moment itself, but he never tries to
Speaker 1: seek eternal association with this. He wanted to get back
Speaker 1: to work, and that's what he did. Years later, Katy
Speaker 1: Perry and Company with towed out the Left Shark a
Speaker 1: few times in twenty eighteen, including at a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: pre show. This is her talking to someone in the
Speaker 1: Left Shark suit, not Brian.
Speaker 8: But you would be made fun of it all over
Speaker 8: the world.
Speaker 3: Life Do you think you're.
Speaker 8: A good dancer?
Speaker 1: Left Shark also made an appearance on her tour promoting
Speaker 1: the album Witness throughout twenty eighteen. Then, weirdly, Left Shark
Speaker 1: went viral again on TikTok in twenty twenty two, when
Speaker 1: California Girls had a brief resurgence and TikTokers were buying
Speaker 1: the costume and having all of their friends wear them
Speaker 1: and dance in them. I don't know. The only interview
Speaker 1: Brian Gaw would ever give on the subject would be
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen to NPR, But by that time, he'd
Speaker 1: very much moved on from this moment, although he still
Speaker 1: embraced the meme in general. He also defended his choreography choice,
Speaker 1: echoing what had been said years earlier. It was a freestyle.
Speaker 1: It was fair play, Brian innocent. He also said he
Speaker 1: had retired from dancing at the end of twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: shortly after the Prismatic Tour ended, and was now working
Speaker 1: at an upscale West Hollywood hair salon. But that was
Speaker 1: all we knew until now. Because listener, here's the thing
Speaker 1: about an upscale West Hollywood hair salon. I can make
Speaker 1: my boyfriend drive me there on a Tuesday morning, and
Speaker 1: so when we come back, I speak to Left Shark
Speaker 1: Brian gaw himself in the the lobby of a very
Speaker 1: fancy hair salon.
Speaker 10: Yeah, welcome back to sixteenth minute.
Speaker 1: It was so nice of everyone at Left Shark's hair
Speaker 1: salon to not comment on my new haircut, because my
Speaker 1: new haircut is a triangle shape and that's not the
Speaker 1: style of fault. I asked for the triangle shape and
Speaker 1: she talked me out of bangs. So it actually is
Speaker 1: a good haircut. And today I have an exclusive, in
Speaker 1: depth interview with a certain left Shark. Brian Gaw currently
Speaker 1: works at the Serrano Salon in West Hollywood, inside of
Speaker 1: a store called Just One Eye. The store is huge
Speaker 1: and gorgeous and scary in a way that stores in
Speaker 1: West Hollywood can be. The ceilings are high, there's a
Speaker 1: sexy anime statue, but it's classy. I have no idea
Speaker 1: what they were selling there, And in the very back
Speaker 1: is this small, gorgeous salon. Brian is both a successful
Speaker 1: hairstylist for private clients and for high fashion. His Instagram
Speaker 1: includes a lot of this work. I'm talking doing hair
Speaker 1: for red carpets, Billboard, ad campaigns, Vogue, Hong Kong. He
Speaker 1: has built this incredible career for himself and his friends.
Speaker 1: Did this day with Katy Perry and I am very
Speaker 1: intimidated by these kinds of spaces, but everyone at the
Speaker 1: salon was so so kind. It's owned by longtime celebrity
Speaker 1: stylist George Serrano, who Brian has worked with for years.
Speaker 1: So when I arrived, we were in this beautiful, cavernous space,
Speaker 1: and Brian said that the only place to do the
Speaker 1: interview would be right there. So this interview has been
Speaker 1: edited for time and clarity and it sort of sounds
Speaker 1: like we're sitting in the lobby of a very fancy
Speaker 1: hair salon, because we are. Here's my interview with Left
Speaker 1: Shark Brian gaw.
Speaker 2: My name's Brian. I'm a hair stylist and I am
Speaker 2: also a professional dancer. The dancing part has kind of
Speaker 2: taken a back seat. So yeah, I'm just happy to
Speaker 2: be here to chat with you.
Speaker 1: Could you tell me where we are?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're in the Sycamore district called a multi
Speaker 2: brand kind of art installation called Just One I. There's
Speaker 2: lots of high end retail art and where a boutique
Speaker 2: salon located in the back called Serrano Salon. We are
Speaker 2: a small team of stylists and yeah, we're like a
Speaker 2: little family back here.
Speaker 1: I was intimidated by the doors. I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't am I allowed to go any Yeah. Tell me
Speaker 1: about where you grew up, how you grew up. What
Speaker 1: were you like as a kid.
Speaker 2: So I grew up in Houston, Texas a product of
Speaker 2: doing how I got into dances. I grew up doing
Speaker 2: martial arts. I was always very physically active during my
Speaker 2: high school years. So yeah, I did my first audition
Speaker 2: that year. I had to wait till I turned eighteen
Speaker 2: because they didn't have a men's team on the NBA
Speaker 2: that year, So I ended up auditioning again, got the job,
Speaker 2: danced for the NBA, and then at that time, like okay, fine,
Speaker 2: here's the age thing. At that time, like Britney Spears
Speaker 2: was really big and like her dancers were all over MTV.
Speaker 2: This was a different time in pop culture. Like you
Speaker 2: would see your media on TRL, which is an MTV show,
Speaker 2: or you would hear it on the radio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, still the like Carson Daily era of curation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was like wow, like in my eyes,
Speaker 2: my young eyes, and like these dancers could be amazing,
Speaker 2: they could be quote unquote famous. I want to be
Speaker 2: a dancer. So I would go back and forth between
Speaker 2: LA and New York to take class and it just
Speaker 2: really opened my eyes. Like at that time, also one
Speaker 2: of my former teammates, Gilbert, he had already moved to LA.
Speaker 2: So I danced right after him and he had already
Speaker 2: moved to LA. He was on the he was on
Speaker 2: the Houston Comments Dance seem also, and everybody's like he's
Speaker 2: dancing for Christina Aguilera. You know, like you could totally
Speaker 2: move to La and do this, and I was like,
Speaker 2: oh gosh, like I really want to try that. And yeah,
Speaker 2: that's sort of how I moved from Houston to LA such.
Speaker 1: A big move so young too. I mean I moved
Speaker 1: here when I was twenty two, and I still was like, ugh,
Speaker 1: I could have waited longer. Yeah, like what was that experience?
Speaker 2: Like it was crazy because like, you know, I went
Speaker 2: to college for a little bit for a few years
Speaker 2: back in Houston. I still lived with my parents, and
Speaker 2: my time in La like or moving here. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: had friends that you know, I'd made here also, but
Speaker 2: it was like that was my college experience, if you will.
Speaker 2: You know, I moved out to an apartment by myself.
Speaker 2: I was auditioning all the time. Luckily I got an
Speaker 2: agent kind of right away when I first moved here. Okay,
Speaker 2: and then yeah, it just was really it was a
Speaker 2: very interesting time because it's like all I cared about
Speaker 2: was dance. The only thing that was important to me
Speaker 2: was dance, and that was like my one as a person.
Speaker 2: I kind of like was always super into my hair anyways,
Speaker 2: and you can ask my family. Growing up, I would
Speaker 2: always like playing people's hair and just kind of like
Speaker 2: I was just some always into that and I kind
Speaker 2: of thought, oh, well, eventually I'll end up going down
Speaker 2: this path, but you know, for right now, it's just
Speaker 2: like just into dance. I wanted to be a professional dancer,
Speaker 2: and that's what I did.
Speaker 1: So when you get here and you're doing early auditions,
Speaker 1: what were those early audition experiences like, were they like
Speaker 1: big cattle calls?
Speaker 2: What were Yeah, it's amazing. You get an agent and
Speaker 2: you don't realize, like you think you're new here. You
Speaker 2: get an agent and you know you're the whatever, the quintessential,
Speaker 2: you're the best from your town, or you've made it
Speaker 2: because you've got to la. Well, honey, you don't realize
Speaker 2: like all these other people have been doing this, like right,
Speaker 2: so you're going to the big cattle call auditions, five
Speaker 2: hundred people auditions, thinking oh they called you for an audition,
Speaker 2: but you know this is like, yeah, you stood outside,
Speaker 2: you waited your turn, you learned the waited your turn,
Speaker 2: and then you had that couple minutes to go and
Speaker 2: you were either cut or you kept making cuts or
Speaker 2: they kept making cuts down the line. It was like
Speaker 2: an all day process. I think the experience of it,
Speaker 2: you just enjoyed. You didn't think it sucked because you
Speaker 2: just cared about dance. You wanted to book these jobs
Speaker 2: and this is an opportunity to you know, dance for
Speaker 2: Janet or dance for Britney and you're like, these are
Speaker 2: the biggest stars at the time, and yeah, you wanted
Speaker 2: to be a part of that, you know, and you
Speaker 2: were very close in terms of tangibility.
Speaker 1: I mean, it certainly happened for you. It seems like
Speaker 1: several times over I'm curious about those early gigs. I
Speaker 1: looked at your IODB and I was like, Wow, you're
Speaker 1: on every Disney Channel show I love just so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what I think, what you don't you think?
Speaker 2: You had this career steered in one way and life
Speaker 2: just takes you either down that path or either down
Speaker 2: a more unique path. I think what was also interesting
Speaker 2: for me is like it did end up happening. I
Speaker 2: did work with all the you know, hot female pop stars,
Speaker 2: but early on in the career, in my career, it
Speaker 2: was very I looked young, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: I looked like a kid. So it was booking like
Speaker 2: commercials and TV and movie spots on kid type TV shows,
Speaker 2: which is great. Because it allowed me my first like
Speaker 2: footing in the door. It's like how you work with
Speaker 2: these big choreographers. It's how you like you booked that
Speaker 2: first job. You get to know the working dancers, You
Speaker 2: get to know the working choreographers and directors, and that's
Speaker 2: kind of how you segue into bigger jobs. You know
Speaker 2: those other choreographers and directors, they work on other big projects.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You do these gigs, You take these gigs, you get
Speaker 1: the experience, and then you it you build on it.
Speaker 1: It's like a stepping stone.
Speaker 2: It is a stepping stone. You know. Hey, some people
Speaker 2: move out here their first audition, now is you know,
Speaker 2: their dream job. For me, it wasn't. There was a
Speaker 2: there was a learning curve. I had to like bust
Speaker 2: my ass in class because you're good in your hometown,
Speaker 2: but you're only so good compared to where people have
Speaker 2: the experience here in LA, Like in LA and New York,
Speaker 2: you're dealing with the best dancers in the world. And
Speaker 2: that's just the truth. And honestly, I was behind. I
Speaker 2: had to catch the truth is I wasn't as good.
Speaker 1: And when you started, I mean like kind of later too, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the truth is I was very lucky and I
Speaker 2: worked hard. I was good enough, but I was never
Speaker 2: the best dancer in the room. Like I just had
Speaker 2: the drive to aspire to be the best dancer in
Speaker 2: the room. And I really feel like the heart of
Speaker 2: that is what got me to where I ended up
Speaker 2: getting to with dancers.
Speaker 1: Which is like the st here. I mean, it's like,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Supportive family, supportive friends.
Speaker 2: Supportive family. Yes, I had a group of friends here
Speaker 2: that were from Texas and ended up meeting people here
Speaker 2: also as you do in dance class. It's really interesting
Speaker 2: because yes, supportive family, but also a family that I'm
Speaker 2: the first one to do something non traditional I see, okay,
Speaker 2: which is polarizing because you know how it is yea.
Speaker 2: You know, there's an expectation and you're not on that
Speaker 2: path and you kind of have to prove it to
Speaker 2: yourself to everyone else. And then you start booking jobs,
Speaker 2: and then you get on TV and then you do
Speaker 2: this and that, and it's like that's I think. Another
Speaker 2: thing I like would love to just impart is like
Speaker 2: so many of these moments for all performers, it's the
Speaker 2: pinnacle of their years of work. And I like attribute
Speaker 2: it to like the Olympics or anything else. Like what
Speaker 2: you're seeing is a final product of ours years, like
Speaker 2: a lifetime of work. And it's really easy for spectators
Speaker 2: or you know, onlookers to just be a critic and
Speaker 2: the way in which media is so consumed these days
Speaker 2: or just very easy to be critical of something or
Speaker 2: another without understanding where the art or performance comes from.
Speaker 2: And it is it's a little disheartening, but you got
Speaker 2: to also understand that, like you put your time in
Speaker 2: and hopefully it's well received.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have to imagine as a professional dancer,
Speaker 1: it's a testament to your craft if you're not making
Speaker 1: it look hard. Yeah, but then people treat you like, well,
Speaker 1: how hard can it be? Because look how easy it?
Speaker 1: Oh No, I spent ten years making it look that easy.
Speaker 2: I'm glad for where we're at these dates, and like
Speaker 2: this day and age, we've grown so much, right, but
Speaker 2: also back in the day, it was rough, like people
Speaker 2: in power could talk to you a certain way, you know,
Speaker 2: like you had to look a certain way, you had
Speaker 2: to I mean, just very bluntly. There was a body
Speaker 2: standard for both men and women, unspoken but not unspoken, right, Right,
Speaker 2: the dance world is tough, you know, and it's you're
Speaker 2: supposed to look a certain way, the shapes are supposed
Speaker 2: to look a certain way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And that's how it was back then.
Speaker 1: You know, when do you start touring regularly, when do
Speaker 1: you start working with these sort of bigger pop stars,
Speaker 1: Because I know I saw Miley Cyrus, Lady Gaga, and
Speaker 1: then Katie Perry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, like I would say probably around two thousand
Speaker 2: and eight, I was working with a few big choreographers.
Speaker 2: I was working with Tony Braxton at the time, Lady Gaga,
Speaker 2: Miley Cyrus, and I was kind of transitioning off that.
Speaker 2: Like I had done a little run with Miley when
Speaker 2: she was doing her kind of hand in Montana but
Speaker 2: kind of trying to like break from so and I
Speaker 2: think she was. That was also the tail end of
Speaker 2: her time at Disney. I was also working with Lady Gaga.
Speaker 2: At the time. Lady Gaga was just getting famous. We're
Speaker 2: doing live shows videos for her. I had done a
Speaker 2: couple gigs with Katie. I think the first one I
Speaker 2: had done was like the Teen Choice Awards or something
Speaker 2: like that, and then the tour was going to come
Speaker 2: around and it's like, okay, like you got a foot
Speaker 2: in because she's familiar with you, but also like you know,
Speaker 2: you got an audition. I think at that time, like
Speaker 2: I was, I guess, if you want to say, like
Speaker 2: at the height of like my dance ability, like all
Speaker 2: the just sort of all the pieces were there, right,
Speaker 2: I knew the right people. I had worked my butt
Speaker 2: off talent wise to get to a certain level where
Speaker 2: I could perform at that level, and then yeah, I
Speaker 2: had an audition just like everybody else.
Speaker 1: So yeah, what tour was your first tour with her?
Speaker 2: It was the California Dreams Tour.
Speaker 1: You're getting at it before, and I want to hear
Speaker 1: more about just giving people an idea of what an
Speaker 1: incredible grind it is being on these tours. What do
Speaker 1: your days look like? It seems exhausting.
Speaker 2: When you're touring. This is kind of like I don't
Speaker 2: know for me or I don't want to speak out
Speaker 2: a turn, but for me, like that was like a
Speaker 2: pinnacle of booking a dance job. You're on a big
Speaker 2: dance job with a huge pop star, you know, arguably
Speaker 2: that the hottest pop star at the time, at at
Speaker 2: those specific years. Your job is to rehearse. You rehearse
Speaker 2: for a couple months before tour, skeleton work. It's a
Speaker 2: lot of figuring it out and then it's you know,
Speaker 2: it turns into the refining process. Even when you're on
Speaker 2: the road, you're rehearsing, you're doing tech, you know, every
Speaker 2: day before the show, you might have time to like
Speaker 2: sight see or something like that. And then you're doing
Speaker 2: a show and then it's like you're either in that
Speaker 2: same city or you're off to the next city on
Speaker 2: a bus on a plane, either that night or the
Speaker 2: next day.
Speaker 1: For weeks, months, years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for weeks months years. Yeah. As I said, like
Speaker 2: the tour, that initial tour got extended and then went
Speaker 2: into like sort of a break, which is great. You know,
Speaker 2: it kept us as dancers working. It sounds like a
Speaker 2: little when you're like, oh, I'm working once a month
Speaker 2: or twice a month, but you don't understand, like there's
Speaker 2: weeks and weeks of rehearsal that goes into one show.
Speaker 2: It's not just like you show up and do this show.
Speaker 2: So working once or twice a month, doing a different
Speaker 2: or new show tailored to like different or specific audiences
Speaker 2: is still like you're working here's a little tidbit. There
Speaker 2: was an exciting moment when like there were rumblings right that, like, hey,
Speaker 2: you guys are gonna get tapped to do the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: The super Bowl is the biggest show in America. Okay.
Speaker 2: And then as a dancer, you know, only certain dancers
Speaker 2: get to do super Bowl because A it has to
Speaker 2: be a pop artist or an artist that's going to
Speaker 2: utilize dancers right right. And B you have to be
Speaker 2: sort of like in with that set choreographers or whatever
Speaker 2: or that artist. You know that, so it doesn't get
Speaker 2: to happen. I know amazing dancers that should have done
Speaker 2: a super Bowl. Again, it's like an anomaly, it's a timeline.
Speaker 2: But then there are other dances that have done multiple
Speaker 2: super Bowls, which is also amazing. So back to what
Speaker 2: I was saying is there are rumblings like, hey, you
Speaker 2: guys are going to do a super Bowl. And then
Speaker 2: I remember a specific show we were doing and they
Speaker 2: were saying management. I was saying, Okay, no joking around,
Speaker 2: this is very very important show, wink wink, whatever, And
Speaker 2: I remember feeling like they flew out the choreographers, like
Speaker 2: we had to rehearse our asses off before this, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel like that show was like an audition. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a lot. So we go from like having a
Speaker 2: break from tour to going to rehearse for the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more. Brian Gaw Welcome back
Speaker 1: to sixteenth minute. Brian Gaw is one of the nicest
Speaker 1: people I've ever interviewed. After we talked, I walked to
Speaker 1: a restaurant that I liked to go to when I
Speaker 1: lived in West Hollywoo and had no money. It's called
Speaker 1: Crazy Rock and Sushi. Don't judge me. And while I
Speaker 1: was there, Brian texted me to say if I had
Speaker 1: time to come back to the salon. He and the
Speaker 1: manager had a bunch of free haircare products to give me.
Speaker 1: It was so nice. My hair is still a triangle.
Speaker 1: Here's the rest of our interview.
Speaker 2: So I think we started rehearsal like in November or
Speaker 2: December of twenty fourteen. And mind you, you're rehearsing the
Speaker 2: same thing for that long, yeah, and just making tweaks
Speaker 2: and adjustments to that.
Speaker 1: I read elsewhere that you obviously infamously left Shark but
Speaker 1: also a horse for dark Horse.
Speaker 2: Is that I was a horse yes, the left Shark
Speaker 2: gets a lot of attention. Great, But I was dancing
Speaker 2: in the first half of the show. I was a
Speaker 2: chess piece. This was a full on production, utilizing all
Speaker 2: the dance, Like I had a costume change that my
Speaker 2: lovely dresser, Avalon helped me get into off the side
Speaker 2: of the stage. And then yeah, and then we did
Speaker 2: the California Girls and teenage stream medley.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the day.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's interesting because, like I think, I don't
Speaker 2: want to say you become numb to it. I use
Speaker 2: this analogy not in an ungrateful way, but in a
Speaker 2: way where you were so trained by that time, like
Speaker 2: you almost turn into a robot. We've like rehearsed in
Speaker 2: the arena so many times. You've rehearsed on that stage,
Speaker 2: we rehearsed at the actual Arizona Arena. I mean, you
Speaker 2: have done this routine so many times. You're so excited
Speaker 2: for the day, right, because it's exciting, But if this
Speaker 2: makes sense, it's also well, okay, here it is, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, because you're like, finally, yes.
Speaker 1: Were you rooting for anyone in that particular Super Bowl?
Speaker 2: Sorry audience, no, same, but it was really cool. I
Speaker 2: guess Tom Brady was in that one, right, I think so.
Speaker 1: I think so. I'm from Massachusetts, I should know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that was supposed to be a really big thing.
Speaker 2: I don't follow football. Don't kill me, audience.
Speaker 1: I don't. I cannot think of an audience that probably
Speaker 1: knows less about football than my audience.
Speaker 2: It was cool to like be in the locker rooms
Speaker 2: and like see the players run past. Like the energy
Speaker 2: of the stadium, the energy of what's going on, it's
Speaker 2: really super exciting. The game is super exciting.
Speaker 1: So the performance happens, the left Shark moment happens kind
Speaker 1: of unbeknownst to you. Yeah, take me through what that
Speaker 1: like you get off stage.
Speaker 2: So what was really cool is if you watch the
Speaker 2: entire performance, you see that Katie ends the show on
Speaker 2: her own, right, right. So by the time I get
Speaker 2: off stage, they're holding us on this like everything had
Speaker 2: gone according to plan. You know, we're cheering for Missy
Speaker 2: Elliott's dancers. We're like just enjoy. We're on the sideline
Speaker 2: and join the moment like this is such a cool thing.
Speaker 2: We see Katie flying the air and then then you know, look,
Speaker 2: but the NFL does not play any games. When you're done,
Speaker 2: you're done, get out, So like you're like escort, like
Speaker 2: get off the field. We're literally like running.
Speaker 1: Are you still in full shark at this point, full.
Speaker 2: Full shark outfit? Just okay? Then run get off stage,
Speaker 2: go change and then yeah there's no like you get
Speaker 2: to hang around. No, go, you're back. We were back
Speaker 2: at our hotel before the game ended. Yeah, no, you
Speaker 2: leave you That's what I mean. You're like, I'm furious
Speaker 2: when I tell you that the NFL there is no
Speaker 2: no game, like the NFL plays no games with or
Speaker 2: with any of these people.
Speaker 1: During the performance. It I mean, you're just like it's
Speaker 1: just enough.
Speaker 2: Just it's gone according to plan, right, I guess you know,
Speaker 2: Like yes, Twitter was around like in popular, but this
Speaker 2: is like this happened like a slow burn where like
Speaker 2: people were texting me like hey did I just see you?
Speaker 2: Which shark were you? And it didn't really like come
Speaker 2: out like meme until I feel like either later that
Speaker 2: evening or the next day, and then literally the next
Speaker 2: day I was getting fielded phone calls from reporters from
Speaker 2: people from this that.
Speaker 1: How did they find you? I don't know, like primate agent,
Speaker 1: I remember this like wave of internet like left shark
Speaker 1: memes and all that stuff. People found you pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: They found me pretty quickly. Number one. I did post
Speaker 2: that yes, that was me. But then it sort of
Speaker 2: carried on because like I was also under NDA, I
Speaker 2: was working with Katie and the next day, you know,
Speaker 2: we flew out to go back to La change our
Speaker 2: bags out, and then go back on tour. So I
Speaker 2: wasn't like we were in the middle of being.
Speaker 1: On tour like the dancers thinking like, oh, this is weird,
Speaker 1: this is funny. Like what was your family's reaction, like
Speaker 1: people in your life.
Speaker 2: No, everybody was super supportive. My friends and family were
Speaker 2: like wow, you know, like this is great, proud and
Speaker 2: excited that it was me. It was awesome. I got
Speaker 2: a great response. Katie pulled us sharks in the like
Speaker 2: dressing room, she made us like shark onesies outfits. You know,
Speaker 2: she was happy about it. You know, so it was great,
Speaker 2: and like I said, we were back on tour. It's
Speaker 2: crazy to think that it's such a pop culture moment
Speaker 2: because it was made a meme was made out of it,
Speaker 2: which is I think is how it sort of like
Speaker 2: came about. It was just a really fun moment to
Speaker 2: be part of it. Did my life change? There wasn't
Speaker 2: like a chain of pivotal moment and you know or
Speaker 2: any of these things. Like I said, I kind of
Speaker 2: like went back on the road with Katie. I had
Speaker 2: done a couple like game show or I did a
Speaker 2: game show that they said okay too, because you know,
Speaker 2: she owns the costume and licensing and all that. I'm
Speaker 2: just grateful to be part of that, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: part of that movement. I'm grateful to have that experience.
Speaker 2: And I think it is that like metaphor for life,
Speaker 2: Like you have these dreams and aspirations and they like
Speaker 2: just pan out. Like at the time, my biggest dream
Speaker 2: was like to dance for Brittany, and like who knew
Speaker 2: Katie wasn't going to become a huge pop star and
Speaker 2: turned into this and I was going to get to
Speaker 2: do all these similar opportunities, but like in a different way.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of times like we see or
Speaker 2: look at our path in such a linear way, whereas
Speaker 2: like if we're just open to how it's going or
Speaker 2: the universe is taking you, like you'll get these big opportunity. Also,
Speaker 2: I've had time obviously to reflect on this, and I
Speaker 2: didn't realize it. I didn't realize how big it was
Speaker 2: until after the fact.
Speaker 1: The beginning of twenty fifteenth, the year where you decide
Speaker 1: you want to take a step back from dancing, take
Speaker 1: me through the rest of the life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know what, Like I think people have
Speaker 2: these moments in life and you really like reflect and
Speaker 2: you go on them. Not to sound overly rhetorical, but
Speaker 2: like where's my life heading or anything, Sure, I sort
Speaker 2: of actually got handed that to me in the best,
Speaker 2: most grateful way from the universe. What actually happened is
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I'm going to go back on tour.
Speaker 2: This is around, like I want to say, like summertime,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm going to downsize my life. I'm
Speaker 2: going to get a Vespa, sell my car, do all
Speaker 2: these things. Well, I had gotten into a Vespa accident
Speaker 2: where I had a kidney contusion, and I'm like, sort
Speaker 2: of like, you grew up as a dancer, and I'm
Speaker 2: saying this because like you're like, oh, your leg hurts,
Speaker 2: It's fine. That's just sort of like the generation I
Speaker 2: grew up in, Like something's hurting, you just make it
Speaker 2: look good or keep it moving right. Well, unbeknownst to
Speaker 2: me it was. I was like, really, is this serious.
Speaker 2: Unbeknownst to me, it was very serious. I ended up
Speaker 2: being in the hospital for six days. I say all
Speaker 2: this because I thought to myself like, wow, dance was
Speaker 2: not taken from me, which totally could devastate somebody, right,
Speaker 2: but it's sort of my outlook on it was like, wow,
Speaker 2: this is a gift from God, from the universe saying
Speaker 2: like you have dance, it is still there. It is
Speaker 2: time to move on. Because I thought in those six days,
Speaker 2: like why am I here? You know, you have all
Speaker 2: the thoughts like am I gonna be able to dance again?
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah, like all the things. Right,
Speaker 2: I called a Katie's manager. I'm like, look, I'm in
Speaker 2: the hospital. I'm supposed to leave. I tell the doctors.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm supposed to leave for Australia in two days.
Speaker 2: Like there's no like I have to go. Obviously I
Speaker 2: didn't get to go when I was scheduled to go,
Speaker 2: and Katie's managers and everybody Katie's so graciously like like
Speaker 2: take your time, and then you know, I ended up
Speaker 2: missing two stops in Australia. I missed uh and I
Speaker 2: met them in Sydney, you know, my first time a
Speaker 2: fly alone. I'm still on painkillers, but I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: finishing this tour and they let me back. I got
Speaker 2: to finish the tour and then but I also knew
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, like, you know, you really got
Speaker 2: to get this like second career, this hair thing going,
Speaker 2: because like I'm not a naysayer, but I was definitely
Speaker 2: also like it's never going to get bigger than this,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like with the biggest pop
Speaker 2: star getting at the height of her career doing the
Speaker 2: height of the jobs, like all the jobs, right the VMA's,
Speaker 2: the Grammy's, like you the super Bowl, the super Bowl,
Speaker 2: you do all the jobs, and you're like, how many
Speaker 2: of these jobs do I want to keep doing? Which
Speaker 2: not to nay say, you can keep doing them and
Speaker 2: they're amazing and all the experience, they're just so amazing.
Speaker 2: But I also wanted to like move my life in
Speaker 2: a way where I felt like, you know, okay, I
Speaker 2: was able to accomplish one thing and then time to
Speaker 2: move on. And you know, dance is still with you. You know,
Speaker 2: dance is still with me today.
Speaker 1: You know, like I feel like such a common refrain
Speaker 1: you hear from athletes too, of just like what do
Speaker 1: I do when my body's not cooperating with me?
Speaker 2: Dancers get a bad rap Like we are athletes. People
Speaker 2: think it's like, oh, they're just have kids having a
Speaker 2: good time. We work at this, and we work our
Speaker 2: bodies for this, We train for this, We work hard.
Speaker 2: I want the publier or whoever to know that, like,
Speaker 2: dancers work so hard and it is a lot of work.
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone has their version of this, but
Speaker 1: being physically forced to stop and reevaluate as such a
Speaker 1: like intense powerful thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so strong and it was something like
Speaker 2: my dreams were met. I had a gracious team. Katie
Speaker 2: was so gracious. I have my family, I have a partner,
Speaker 2: you know, like I had all these support systems that
Speaker 2: were great in terms of being able to be like okay,
Speaker 2: what's next, and still being supported in going through that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, after that, I took a year off to
Speaker 2: get my license, and then I stumbled upon some amazing
Speaker 2: celebrity hairstylists, them being George Serrano, who owns this salon
Speaker 2: assisted him for a few years and assisted a ton
Speaker 2: of other amazing stylists to just make sure I had
Speaker 2: a foundation similar to dance. It really was like taking
Speaker 2: a piece of humble pie to really know that I
Speaker 2: could do this, but like know that these people have
Speaker 2: been doing this for eons before me. I need to
Speaker 2: realize that and learn my lessons, which I did and
Speaker 2: again land on my feet and be successful in this
Speaker 2: whole other way, which is amazing.
Speaker 1: So you've been doing hair full time since like twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, As you said, like be
Speaker 2: in the city and be able to build this, but
Speaker 2: also like so many of my relationships have just crossed over.
Speaker 2: You know, I've seen other of my dance friends like
Speaker 2: on set, and it's interesting, you know, it's slash fun
Speaker 2: to have them see me do hair and then you
Speaker 2: know they're choreographing now or something like that. So it's
Speaker 2: really it's really great. It's it's it's like I say,
Speaker 2: I like I'm in the same industry. I just like
Speaker 2: jumped departments, you know, I'm a differ sharity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so cool.
Speaker 2: Totally. I'm still that artist at heart, which I'm just
Speaker 2: grateful in a way to have like evolved as an
Speaker 2: artist and just been able to continue my path, but
Speaker 2: just in a different way.
Speaker 1: How do you look back on that moment now where
Speaker 1: it's like life has changed and you've evolved as an
Speaker 1: artist and a person.
Speaker 2: When you say it like that, it seems like an eternity.
Speaker 2: But in the same hand, it also seems like yesterday.
Speaker 2: You know, it's time. Is a weird thing that it's
Speaker 2: been ten years. It's taken that time for me to
Speaker 2: enjoy it, be grateful for that and also understand the
Speaker 2: opportunity that that's presented to me from that one time.
Speaker 2: And I'm so grateful that people enjoy that moment and
Speaker 2: enjoy Katie and enjoy they're enjoying the super Bowl for
Speaker 2: what it is in the halftime show, for what it is,
Speaker 2: a fun time. I love that it wasn't like overly
Speaker 2: criticized or it's this, or that it was a moment
Speaker 2: in time that was fun. And that's what we're here
Speaker 2: to do, to share our art. We're here to like
Speaker 2: just do that share.
Speaker 1: Thank you so so much to Brian gow for his
Speaker 1: time and his openness. You can follow his work over
Speaker 1: at the links in the description. This interview just put
Speaker 1: me in a terrific mood. I think it is so
Speaker 1: incredible that Brian listened to his gut and tried something
Speaker 1: new and has built a really impressive career for himself. Twice.
Speaker 1: It made me feel like making changes in my own
Speaker 1: life was possible, and it was because Brian gaw always
Speaker 1: did his own thing. He trusted his instincts, he trusted
Speaker 1: his passion and didn't do what was expected or prescribed
Speaker 1: to him. And wait, is this the perfect conclusion I've
Speaker 1: stumbled upon? Brian has built a fascinating and successful life
Speaker 1: by embracing his inner left shark. Well, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to stick the landing harder than that, Brian Gaw aka
Speaker 1: left Shark. You will always be famous to me. But
Speaker 1: your sixteenth minute ends now, and here's your moment of fun.
Speaker 1: More bad reviews of Elvis Presto.
Speaker 4: Whether you watched it in three D or not, the
Speaker 4: show was overwrought and boring, said one caller to The
Speaker 4: Daily Press. I just don't buy not half in my glasses.
Speaker 4: I missed something you didn't.
Speaker 1: All the three D did was bring out how horrible
Speaker 1: this Elvis Presto character was.
Speaker 4: Forget Elvis Presto. I'll take the three Stoges in three
Speaker 4: d any day over the fifties flailings of Lukewarm's sons
Speaker 4: and dance.
Speaker 5: What was the big deal about the halftime? What is
Speaker 5: with these ponytails of guys? Isn't Barbara Bush such a
Speaker 5: refreshing change from Nancy Reagan for fest Lady. I think
Speaker 5: she's going to be a good one. I'm actually looking
Speaker 5: forward to the next four years.
Speaker 1: Bye. Sixteenth Minute is a production of fool Zone Media
Speaker 1: and iHeartRadio. It is written, posted, and produced by me
Speaker 1: Jamie Offis. Our executive producers are Sophie Lichterman and Robert Evans.
Speaker 1: The amazing Ian Johnson is our supervising produce and our editor.
Speaker 1: Our theme song is My Sad thirteen and Pet Shadouts
Speaker 1: to our dog producer Anderson, my Cat's flee and Casper
Speaker 1: and my pet Rockberg, who will outlive us all.
Speaker 3: Bye.