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So again, that's Ethos 28 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: dot com slash chuck. Application times may vary and the 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: rates themselves may vary as well, but trust me, life 30 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: insurance is something you should really think about, especially if 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: you've got a growing family. Hello there, Chuck Todd. Here 32 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: it is Friday, December twelfth. I thought I would jump 33 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: in with just a quick little update on what was 34 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: I think a pretty monumental day that when we look 35 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: back on what happened on Thursday, December eleven in the 36 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: era of Trump, that this will be one could be 37 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: one of those plot points. And I know we've been 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: done this road before. It could be is this the 39 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: sign that it's coming to an end? Etcetera, etcetera. But 40 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: let's talk about two important things that happen and in 41 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: two ways, where something President Trump demanded, where he tried 42 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: to bend the will of the law, bend the will 43 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: of politics, bend the will of individuals his way, and 44 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 1: he hasn't been able to do it. Obviously, the big 45 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: news is what happened in Indiana, with essentially Indiana Republicans 46 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: feeling comfortable saying no to Donald Trump. But earlier in 47 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: the day we had a grand jury who you know, 48 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: the famous joke is you can get a grand jury 49 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: to indict a ham sandwich. Perhaps the Trump administration should 50 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: have tried indicting a ham sandwich named Letitia James. Rather 51 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: than trying to indict Leticia James a second time on 52 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: this idea that she committed mortgage fraud. Grand jury said no. 53 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: And it is you're starting to see a pattern here 54 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: where there is more comfort in pushing back, and when 55 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: you do, you're not seeing the consequences that are threatened. 56 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: But let's start with the political consequences or lack thereof, 57 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: with what happened in Indiana. This is Republicans saying no. 58 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: This is not the first time, right, we have seen right, 59 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: There has been sort of this. I wrote about in 60 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: a sub stack about a month ago that I said, 61 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: the cracks and the coalition are starting to appear focusing 62 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: then on the Marjorie Taylor Green situation Thomas Massey, and 63 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: it's like, slowly, but surely, you've had people push back 64 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: and there have been no consequences. Look and Trump one 65 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: point zero. And even in the four yer exile period 66 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: where he was still sort of hovering over our politics, 67 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: even if he didn't have actual power, his words mattered, 68 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: his threats mattered, and he did instill sometimes fear in 69 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: the minds of some Republicans to go his way, because 70 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the voters were with him. 71 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: But that's the issue here. It's like, why did Indiana 72 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: Republicans feel comfortable pushing back? Why does Marjorie Taylor Green 73 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: feel comfortable pushing back? Why is Thomas Massey felt comfortable 74 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: pushing back? Why do you see a growing you know, 75 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: ever so slowly, a growing number of House Republicans and 76 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: Senate Republicans essentially looking for ways to go in a 77 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: different direction than what the Trump administration is demanding. And 78 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: that is because this economy is not good and voters 79 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: don't like this economy, and ultimately, if they don't like 80 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: the economy, everything else starts to bother them. And who 81 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: knows this better than lawmakers that are closer to the 82 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,119 Speaker 1: voters than the president is. He has had a hard 83 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: time making Thomas Massey pay for what he has done, 84 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: and he's essentially pushing back on him. In particular on 85 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: the Epstein files. Marjorie Taylor Green seemed to indicate that 86 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: she just didn't want to go through the idea of 87 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: having to fight Trump in a primary, and so she 88 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: chose resignation rather than going down that road. So perhaps 89 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: you could make the argument, if you really wanted to, 90 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: to say, well, Trump did intimidate or intimidator out of Congress. 91 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: She's also now serving as an incredible rhetorical weapon against 92 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: him from the point of view of MAGA. But this 93 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: is a significant moment because what is he going to 94 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: be able to do. It wasn't just one or two 95 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: Indiana Republicans that stepped up against him. You ended up 96 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 1: having a fairly large coalition. You had the former governor 97 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: Mitch Daniels, whether he was just giving advice to lawmakers 98 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: or actively trying to thwart him, because Mitch Daniels is 99 00:05:55,320 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: a conservative, is a Republican who does not believe any Essentially, 100 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: Trump's vision for the Republican Party. It is hard to 101 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 1: call Trump a conservative anymore by any definition of conservatism 102 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: that most of us have grown up with over the 103 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: last fifty years. He's not for limited government. If anything, 104 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: he is aggressively trying to be strong government, trying to 105 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: use the power of government to get business to do 106 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: its well, use the power of government to get other 107 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: countries to bend do as will. That is not a 108 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: limited government philosophy. He is also not. The debt is 109 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: not an animating issue to him. Balanced budgets are not 110 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: an animated issue to him, never was for him personally 111 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: as a businessman. And he has certainly taken that philosophy 112 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: into government with him. And you have somebody like a 113 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: Mitch Daniels who think, hey, government shouldn't be a part 114 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: of this. And then there's the whole state's rights issue, 115 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: which has been arguably among the most important planks to 116 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: the conservative movement the last seventy years. Right, it was 117 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: under the umbrella of states rights that conservatives wanted to 118 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: fight back on the Civil Rights Act. It was under 119 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: the umbrella of states rights that conservative social conservatives pushed 120 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: back on abortion laws. And here he is essentially trying 121 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: to thwart the state's rights, whether it's the threats that 122 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: were made by Heritage Action. And by the way, I 123 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: don't know what's happened to the Heritage Well we know 124 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: what's happened to the Heritage Foundation. They just followed the 125 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: money donors that wanted to support Donald Trump became very 126 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: important to Heritage. So they've changed their philosophy completely. You know, 127 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: there were two major think tanks in this town on 128 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: the conservative side of the aisle, the American Enterprise Institute 129 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: and Heritage. American Enterprise Institute is still a small c 130 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: conservative think tank that certainly has plenty of ideas that 131 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: sort of in the Venn diagram overlap with some of 132 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: the goals of the Trump administration. But at their core 133 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: these are still sort of this is a Reagan This 134 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: is a think tank that it thinks of conservatism through 135 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: the definition of Ronald Reagan strong, you know, international foreign policy, 136 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: interventionists when necessary, but sort of a little bit of 137 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: a moral code to our foreign policy. There is no 138 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: more moral code to our foreign policy anymore, inn Trump. 139 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: And then of course what he's doing with tariffs and 140 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: the economy that is not sort of that. And so 141 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation used to be sort of in that 142 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: sort of shared in some ways. Heritage and AI simply 143 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: fought over individuals to work at their institutions because philosophically 144 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: they were mostly on the same page. But Heritage decided 145 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: to sell out financially. And now that they came out 146 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: with and said that somehow federal funds would be taken 147 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: away from Indiana, any projects that Indiana thought they were 148 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: going to get would be taken away. It It is 149 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 1: just anti antithetical to what conservatism has been for the 150 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: last fifty years. Again, apparently not caring about federalism, not 151 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: caring about states rights. You so, and I actually think 152 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: that you're going to see a lot of Republicans push 153 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: back on this executive order that Donald Trump signed last 154 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: night trying to prevent states from doing their own regulation 155 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: and artificial intelligence. That is going to be an interesting 156 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: It's going to be some interesting I don't think what 157 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: he signed is constitutional. I don't think he can do that. 158 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: It appears that only Congress can overwrite state laws. That 159 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: they would have to do it. He didn't have the 160 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: votes in Congress to include this. This was yet another 161 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: sign right they tried to bully that moratorium on state 162 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: regulations into the last couple of bills, either tried to 163 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: put it to the must pass Defense Bill or try 164 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: to get it into opening the government bill, and they 165 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: couldn't get it there because there were so many Republicans 166 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: that were against this. And guess who else is against this? 167 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: The public. The public is very skeptical right now of AI, 168 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: very nervous about AI. And so this is politically, I 169 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: actually think, really damaging to Republicans in twenty twenty six. Right, 170 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: Donald Trump doesn't want you know, doesn't want to prevent 171 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: you could just see the ads now, right, Donald Trump 172 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: doesn't want to prevent these tech companies from abusing our kids' 173 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: mental health. Donald Trump doesn't want to prevent these tech 174 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: companies from abusing your pocketbook by doing surveillance, pricing and 175 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: all this stuff. That is going to be you know, 176 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: that is they're going to see a lot of Republicans, 177 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: probably starting with Ronda Santis, who has been among the 178 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: most vocal conservative Republicans in the States against this federal moratorium, 179 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: against a regulation. So Donald Trump's inviting another fight, and 180 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: he's going to be inviting yet more proof that perhaps 181 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: the Emperor's you know, and I'm not going to sit 182 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: here and say the Emperor has no clothes. But we're 183 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: starting to see a striptease here. And it feels like, 184 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: now this is the third straight month where there's been 185 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: something where parts of his coalition have begun to fray. Right, 186 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: First it was over Epstein, Right, you've seen it that. 187 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: Now you've seen it over healthcare and the state of 188 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: the economy. We've seen it on tariffs, which also are 189 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: linked to the state of the economy. And I'm telling you, 190 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: and now we've got it on artificial intelligence and sort 191 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: of getting into bed with big tech, who's just as 192 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: unpopular on the conservative right as they are on the 193 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: progressive left. Like I said Thursday, December eleventh, is I 194 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: think is going to be seen as one of the 195 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: more significant days when we start to plot when is 196 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: this the beginning of the end? Right? Was it Election 197 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: Day twenty twenty five? Was it the break on the 198 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: Epstein files with the discharge petition? Was it? You know, 199 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: what we're seeing is a consistent Is it the Indiana 200 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: Republicans saying no one redistricting? The bottom line is there's 201 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: fewer Republicans who are afraid of Donald Trump. There are 202 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: more base conservatives who don't like this economy, who aren't 203 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: going to punish local lawmakers who decide to defy Donald 204 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: Trump if it is grounded in something the public themselves 205 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: is concerned about. So look, a lot of people have 206 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: lost money trying to predict the end of the Trump era. 207 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: But as I've said before, we're in year ten. It 208 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: is no political movement lasts that long. And we're starting 209 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: to see Trump's grip loosening all the time. Pick your metaphor. 210 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: Emperor is doesn't have no clothes, but he's looking you know, 211 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: he's never looked more naked than he looks now on 212 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: twelve on December twelfth, twenty twenty five. Now, when he's 213 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: in these moments, I do you know, he's going to 214 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: want to prove he still has strength. He's going to 215 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: want to prove he still has influence. He's going to 216 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: want to prove he can still sort of bend people 217 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: towards his will. So I wouldn't be surprised. You know, 218 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: nobody's going to let go of power easily. So he's 219 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: being challenged a lot. Probably should be prepared for a 220 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,599 Speaker 1: lot of rants, a lot of public threats, But the 221 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: bottom line is a lot more of those folks on 222 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: the receiving end are going to be are viewing those 223 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: threats as empty, and they're now realizing Donald Trump's never 224 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: going to be on a ballot again, and Donald Trump's 225 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: influence gets weaker and weaker every day he's in office. So, 226 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: as the old saying goes, if it walks like a 227 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: lame duck, if it quacks like a lame duck, I 228 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: think it's slightly we have a lame duck. I'll see 229 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: him Monday