1 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: by my partner in crime, Weston had Quits. We're coming 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: to you here still from different locations at Lambefield and 5 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: coming off of preseason game number two Saturday night against 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots and Wes. The game gets called 7 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: with ten and a half minutes to go in the 8 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. But thankfully we are able to report it 9 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: was such great news to hear on Sunday that. 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 2: Yeah huge, I mean the fact rooky. 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: Rookie cornerback, No, that's okay, rookie cornerback Isaiah Bolden was 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: released from the hospital, traveled back to Massachusetts with the 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: Patriots and so what was a very very scary and 14 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: sobering situation on the field in the fourth quarter on 15 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: Saturday night. It sounds like everything is okay. 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And prayers to him and his family and hopefully 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: no lasting effects from that. Just one of those bang 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 2: bank type incidents that happened in the game of football 19 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: where two guys are trying to converge, you know, you 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: had Malik Heath was on the reception on that slant route, 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: you know, going for a first down. I mean, that 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: was a pivotal play there as the Packers are trying 23 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: to continue that series. 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: You know. 25 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: Unfortunately for Bolden he ends up taking a hit to 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: the head and neck area. Everything seemed like, you know, 27 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: from the Green Bay Packers in New England Patriots perspective, medically, 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: I mean, total professionals being able to make sure that 29 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: he's in the best position possible to be. Okay, he 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: stays overnight for observation on Saturday night, but then flew 31 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: home with the Patriots on Sunday. Like I said, hopefully 32 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: you're just thinking to him and that his season, in 33 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: his career and in his life more importantly, can continue on, 34 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: because that certainly is never a thing you want to 35 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:50,919 Speaker 2: see on the football field. 36 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly not. And I don't think there was any 37 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: argument or debate as to the decision that was made 38 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: to suspend the game at that point. It goes down 39 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: as a twenty one to seventeen final score in favor 40 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: of the Patriots, And of course the score is not 41 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: the issue. I mean, in a preseason game, there's so 42 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: much else going on to talk about, and with regard 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: to the Packers the first team offense minus David Baktiari, 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: who was still sitting out these preseason contests to this point, 45 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: Jordan Love and company put up another touchdown. A bit 46 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: of a slow start, there was the mishap with the 47 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: shotgun snap early on another drive that reaches around midfield 48 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: but then stalls out, but then backed up inside their 49 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: own ten yard line. Jordan Love and company went the 50 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: distance and ended up putting a touchdown on the board 51 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: before their night was over, And that was pretty good 52 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: to see. 53 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's exactly what you wanted to see. And to 54 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 2: be honest with you, as difficult as that was, and 55 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: the Josh Myers misconnection there with Jordan Love on the snap, 56 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 2: it's not great. But at the same time, it kind 57 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: of reminds you of you know, the times where you 58 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: get a shock or something. It just sort of tells 59 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: you don't do it that way again, right, I mean, 60 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: there's sort of that muscle memory that that triggers. The 61 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: intention was in the right place. What they were trying 62 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: to achieve is trying to catch the opposition for encroachment. Unfortunately, 63 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: the guy didn't actually jump across the line of scrimmage, 64 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: so they can move around and dance and do whatever 65 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: they want, but if they don't actually cross, it's not 66 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 2: a violation. So the Packers something they're gonna have to 67 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: learn from. But all that being said, that third drive, 68 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: as I wrote about in our insider our notes package afterwards, 69 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: that I thought was very impressive was that, you know, 70 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: that fifth series, they need to get the ball moving, 71 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: and they did that. I mean being able to hit 72 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: Romeo Dobbs in one of the more spectacular plays you're 73 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: gonna see, regardless of preseason or regular season. Referees originally 74 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: said that it was incomplete. Connor lewis up, you know, 75 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: the eagle eyed Connor Lewis up in the coach's box saying, hey, 76 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: not so fast they Matt Lafuer throws the challenge flag. 77 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: Ends up being a huge pivotal play, but more importantly 78 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: than just Dobbs, because everybody knows what Romeo can do, 79 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: and I think he's been again just a con distant 80 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: star for them since he got drafted. Here. Jayden Reid 81 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: I thought had a huge moment because that showed his 82 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: value in the slot in what he potentially can bring 83 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: to this Packers' offense. I was super impressed by him 84 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: and being able to snatch that ball coming across on 85 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: that through route from Jordan Love. They end up scoring 86 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 2: the touchdown nineteen yards and the Packers end up finishing 87 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: that drive on a high note. From what it sounds 88 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: like for Matt Lafleur, this will not be it for 89 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: Jordan Love that he will probably be back out there 90 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: with the first team offense against the Seahawks. But regardless, 91 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty passer rating, I thought a really 92 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: positive sign for him with his growth and where this 93 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 2: Packers offense wants to go. 94 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was so much to like about that touchdown 95 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: play to Jayden Reid. I mean, first off, you have 96 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: aj Dillon transitioning in an instant from carrying out a 97 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: play action fake to having to pick up the Patriots blitzer, 98 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: and not only does he pick him up, but he 99 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: basically just buries him into the lambeau Field turf and 100 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: the pass protection held up. You know, really, for the 101 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: bulk of of Jordan Love's stint out there in each 102 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: of these first two preseason games, the pass protection, even 103 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: without David Bacciari, has been pretty darn good. But then 104 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: the velocity that Love is able to put on the throw. 105 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: The fact that Reid snatches it with his hands out 106 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: of the air and then still has the body control 107 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: to turn and cut inside the pylon to get it 108 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: into the end zone for the touchdown. Just a lot 109 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: to like on that touchdown play, as you said. Matt 110 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: Lafleuur confirmed on Sunday that Jordan Love will play the 111 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: number one offense will play in the preseason finale against Seattle. 112 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: Didn't say how long. Again, the expectation, I guess based 113 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: on the first couple of games, it will probably be 114 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: a couple series. It will probably depend on how things 115 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: are going. I mean, if they take the field at 116 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: the twenty five yard line goes seventy five yards for 117 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: a touchdown on the first drive, then Matt Lafleur may 118 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: go all right, hey, we're good, Like let's get out 119 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: of here. So that maybe would be the ideal situation. 120 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: But the other thing too, with regard to the the 121 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: first teamers that played, I thought, you know, the Packers 122 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: number one defense was put in a tough spot with 123 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: after the fumbled snap and the Patriots take over in 124 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: the red zone, then they're able to finish that drive 125 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: and get a touchdown. Then after that, you know, really, 126 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: other than maybe the one play where Ramondre Stevenson busted 127 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: a run, you know, for twenty plus yards, there was 128 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: a run that leaked out there. I thought the Packers 129 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: starters and and the twos that you know were maybe 130 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: subbing in some of the the twos that were subbing 131 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: in early in the game. I thought the Packers defense 132 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: held up pretty well to Mac Jones and that Patriots offense, 133 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: And certainly the star on the defensive side was Kingsley 134 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: and a bare who the second year edge rusher, fifth 135 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: round draft pick out of South Carolina last year. He 136 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: ends up with two sacks. One of those he strips 137 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: the ball from Mac Joness, it recovers it himself and 138 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 1: actually then that set up a scoring drive for the offense. 139 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: So big night for kings Leyannigbari. Because while there's all 140 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: kinds of hope, of course that Rashan Gary will be 141 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: back for week one, there's no guarantee how much he's 142 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: going to play necessarily right off the bat, and you can, 143 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: just as you always say defensively, you can never have 144 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: enough cover corners. You can never have enough edge rushers either. 145 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: And if kings Leyannigbari is making those year two strides 146 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: that you really like to see that could go a 147 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: long way for this Packers defense in twenty twenty three. 148 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you covered all of it. I mean, 149 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: you look at the way that Nbarr's played from day 150 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: one to where he's at now. This is a guy 151 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: that I thought, you know, outside of that forty time 152 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: there wasn't a lot to take fault with with him 153 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: coming out of South Carolina. He was an impressive physical 154 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: specimen and a productive, consistent pass rusher for him, you know, yeah, 155 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: it's important. He's going to be a guy they're going 156 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: to look to. But what I was more impressed with 157 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: in this game was the play style aspect of things 158 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 2: and what Matt Lafleur has talked about time and time 159 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: again right now, right where it's it's going to be 160 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: an idea of guys being aggressive, being at the point 161 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: of attack, and I think that's translated to every level 162 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: of the defense so far. And I'm personally really interested 163 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: to see if they can carry that through into the 164 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: regular season now because some years, Mike, you cover preseason 165 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: games and it ends up being a lot of just 166 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: four man rush and guys just trying to beat their man, 167 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: almost like an extension of like a one on one 168 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: type period. It hasn't been like that in this camp. So, 169 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: whether it's in Igbari, whether it's a guy like Colby 170 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: Wooden or Carl Brooks who had two more quarterback hits 171 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 2: in this game, all the big names that we talked 172 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 2: about all summer, they're there, with Kenny Clark and you know, 173 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: hopefully at some point you know seeing Gary Outen team periods, 174 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: but Preston Smith. But it's these young guys that are 175 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: going to be the ones that really build out the 176 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 2: restless defense. And on a night where the Packers did 177 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: not allow a quarterback hit on either Jordan Love or 178 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: Sean Clifford, they were able to get plenty of pressure 179 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: on the Patriots side of things. I think that's a 180 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: good sign for the future. 181 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And I think you up a good point 182 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: about the young defensive linemen. Certainly Colby Wooden and Carl Brooks. 183 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: We haven't seen them, you know, go against somebody else's 184 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: first unit, first string necessarily, but the opportunities that those 185 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: guys have been given a fourth round pick and a 186 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: sixth round pick as rookies, the Packers know they're going 187 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: to be counting on them to be the next man 188 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: up on those defensive line. You have to like what 189 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: you see. They've they've gotten penetration in the backfield. They've 190 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: been impactful both against the run and with regard to 191 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: the pass rush. You can't ask too much more from 192 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: a couple of young defensive linemen who are trying to 193 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: find their way, but pretty soon they're going to be 194 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: thrown into the fire and they're going to be asked 195 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: to hold their own and produce for this Packers defense. 196 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: The biggest moment of Sunday's press conference, you know, Matt 197 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: Lafleur talked for almost a half an hour, but one 198 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: of the big lines I thought that was very important 199 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: there was when he was talking about Carl Brooks and 200 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 2: he said, you know, he's doing a lot of good things, 201 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: but we're gonna need him to do that in the 202 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: regular season too. And in that moment, I thought to myself, 203 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, we're talking about a sixth round pick here, 204 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: We're talking about a guy that was drafted in the 205 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: two hundreds. That isn't always the way you speak about 206 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: a rookie. Sixth round pick. It shows you, at least 207 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: in his case, that is, there's a lot more to 208 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: this guy. There's a lot of meat to that bone, 209 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: and I think that's probably the thing the Packers are 210 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: most excited about right now. Last year there was a 211 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: lot of work to do in the defensive front. It 212 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: wasn't on one specific player, but they made a lot 213 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: of alterations to this group. And I feel like when 214 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: you add a wooden when you add a guy like 215 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: Kyle Brooks or Carl Brooks excuse me, and you have 216 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: a guy like Jonathan Ford, who I think has also 217 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: taken some strides as a pass ru you know, as 218 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: a run stuffer, that room has built out really well 219 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: for them. We've talked about a time and time again, 220 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: but you know, there were learnable teachable moments in this game. 221 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 2: You know, Carrington Valentine, I think, you know, in some 222 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: ways saw some of the changes in the NFL that 223 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: he's going to have to adapt to. Certainly, the Packers 224 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: are still figuring out what's going to happen at safety, 225 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: but as it relates to that defensive front, during a 226 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: time in which they went without Rashan Gary and are 227 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: moving on from you know, Dean Lowry and Jaron Reid. 228 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 2: I feel like this training camp and specifically these preseason 229 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 2: games have given us a lot of answers to questions 230 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: that we're lingering into the summer. 231 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and and quickly before we shift back to the offense, 232 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: you mentioned it too with regard to safety, the Packers 233 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: still figuring things out there because as much as we've 234 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: talked about, you know, Jonathan Owens was with ones and 235 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: to various more then back to Owens, well, it was 236 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: back to Rudy Ford as the starting safety in the 237 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: game on Saturday night. So we'll see upcoming here in 238 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: the preseason finale Saturday afternoon at Lambeufield against the Seahawks. 239 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: Just just how this, how this shakes out and where 240 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: the where the Packers decide to go with really what 241 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: has been the only the only starting position on the 242 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: defense that's been up for grabs. 243 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and that's where I'm going to be 244 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: looking to see, you know, kind of who grabs it, right, 245 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: because we've seen time and time again where it's been 246 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: so close here and you've had Jonathan Owens get opportunities, 247 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: You've had you know, Darnell Savage working with all these 248 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: different types of safety, but who's going to be the 249 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: one that holds onto that job in the long term. 250 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: I think the door is even open now to a 251 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: guy like Anthony Johnson as a rookie, seventh round pick 252 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: who has had some good practices. I think first and foremost, 253 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 2: you're probably still looking at special teams with him and 254 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 2: some of the things that Matt Lafleur has complimented him on. 255 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: But when you're the only safety drafted in a thirteen 256 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: player draft class after you don't resign, you know, Adrian Amos, 257 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: that creates natural questions for Okay, what is this guy's 258 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 2: potential ceiling? Where could this thing go? For him? And 259 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: for me, it really is going to come down to 260 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: who fills out that five you know, nickel and that 261 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: sixth dime because that is pivotal and this is a 262 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: passing first league. You know, Darnold Savage is going to 263 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: be the shot caller back there now, He's going to 264 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: be the guy that's going to be helping direct traffic. 265 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, it is what 266 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 2: it is. You have to see who's going to step up. 267 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I want to get to a couple other 268 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: things about this preseason contest. 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Well with regard to competitions, 276 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: and you mentioned in the secondary, the Packers are figuring 277 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: out starting safety, what exactly is the nickel and the 278 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: dime going to look like moving forward, and that secondary 279 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: is still, you know, waiting on Eric Stokes getting back 280 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: and being activated off the pup list. He has not 281 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: practiced as of yet, but we know that that you 282 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: know that day is coming where he's going to be 283 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: activated in one form or another, whether it's before the 284 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: end of training camp or at some point during the 285 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: regular season. On the offensive side, the competition for the 286 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: number three running back spot and for the depth spots 287 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: at wide receiver still seems as wide open and undecided 288 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: as they could be at this stage. There's a lot 289 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: going on. There are a lot of guys, you know, 290 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: Emmanuel Wilson, Patrick Taylor at running back and then at receiver, 291 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: whether you're talking Grant Dubo's or Malie Heath or Somori Toure. 292 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: A lot of action going on that the personnel department 293 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: is paying attention to, and these young players are not 294 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: making it easy on them, which is a good thing 295 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: for the Packers in the long run. 296 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's gonna be one of the 297 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: more difficult cuts that the Packers are going to have 298 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: to work through here in a week's time. I mean, 299 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: it's crazy that we're already at that point that you're 300 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: you know, it seems like training camp goes on forever, 301 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: and then suddenly it's staring you right in the face 302 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: that we're looking at a fifty three man roster. I 303 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: think it's going to be really intriguing to see who 304 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: all emerges at those positions where we talked about the depth, 305 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: because it's easy enough to say, okay, well, this player 306 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: earned it or this player deserves it, but then you 307 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: also do have to consider the special teams piece to it. 308 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: A guy like Patrick Taylor ranks really high in the 309 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: special teams regard. Packers are hurting for tight ends in 310 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: this game, Mike, and they unfortunately lost another one with 311 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: Henry Pearson who's a full back but naturally a tight end. 312 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: So what happens? I mean, you're seeing guys like Patrick 313 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: Taylor playing as an up blocker now on the kickoff 314 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: return team. Usually don't see running backs do that sort 315 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: of thing, but he has the size and sort of 316 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: the acumen to handle it. Packers really value that. I mean, 317 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: Tyler Goodson I thought looked really impressive during the offseason program, 318 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: but then he gets a shoulder injury. And then you 319 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: have Emmanuel Wilson, who is a really natural runner, but 320 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: is he going to be able to play the other 321 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: phases which maybe necessarily he hadn't done a lot in college. 322 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: Those are the big things that Packers are going to 323 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: have to look for here in this next week. This 324 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: final preseason game is gonna be really intriguing to watch though, 325 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: because you're going to see the starters play a little bit. 326 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: I'm guessing Sean Clifford will get some more reps, but 327 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: Matt Lafour even said it on Sunday he wanted to 328 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: get Alex macgoose some reps at those threes until unfortunately 329 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: that injury happened with Bolden. So there are you know, 330 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: ninety one players on this roster if you conclude Kenneth 331 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: o'demegu and having that exemption. So trying to figure out 332 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: that fifty three and then the sixteen man practice squad 333 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: beyond that is going to be a real challenge, which, 334 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: as you've said time and time again, is something that 335 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: I'm sure Brian Goodacunts and his scouts really do want 336 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: because you want to be stuck with some difficult decisions 337 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: right now. 338 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it'll be fun to see in 339 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: this preseason finale if Sean Clifford can go three for 340 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: three in two minute drills. He's two for two at 341 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: the end of the first half, a touchdown and a 342 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: field goal. Let's see if he can get some more 343 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: points there. But with that we will call it a 344 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to 345 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: follow all of our coverage of the final week of 346 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: training camp leading up to the preseason finale on Saturday 347 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: afternoon at Lambellfield against the Seattle Seahawks. We will have 348 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: it all for you on Packers Dot com for wes 349 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: I am Mike, thank you for tuning in. Everybody, We 350 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: will see you next time.