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Speaker 2: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
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Speaker 3: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
Speaker 3: my name is Nol.
Speaker 1: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our
Speaker 1: super producer Alexa's code name Doc Holiday Jazz. Most importantly,
Speaker 1: you are you.
Speaker 4: You are here.
Speaker 1: That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know.
Speaker 1: You know, as everybody is wondering, gosh, are the guys
Speaker 1: going to get political today? Because we sure love it
Speaker 1: when they do well.
Speaker 5: The uh, the uh, we see. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Former President Donald Trump, just by way of a cold open,
Speaker 1: had this trial about classified docs. It has been delayed indefinitely.
Speaker 4: I was going to get through the porn star bribery
Speaker 4: one first, right, you know, order of operations in all things.
Speaker 1: A slaughterhouse cleaning company just got fined for knowingly using
Speaker 1: child labor. Because apparently we're back in the early days
Speaker 1: of the industrial Revolution. They're just for cleaning it, Ben,
Speaker 1: just for cleaning it, Matt, They're they're fine. Was six
Speaker 1: hundred thousand and forty nine hundred and forty nine thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: So I guess justice or just us. That is an
Speaker 1: early hip hop shout out to very few people who
Speaker 1: recognize it.
Speaker 4: We got hip hop shout outs galore coming later on
Speaker 4: the episode too.
Speaker 1: Right today, we are diving into stories of brain worms.
Speaker 1: We're going to end with a meditation on something that's
Speaker 1: very important to a lot of us listening this evening.
Speaker 1: We're going to learn about, as you said, Noel, some
Speaker 1: hip hop updates. Does art imitate life? Does life imitate art?
Speaker 4: If?
Speaker 1: Sue to what degree? And before we do any of that,
Speaker 1: this is our cold open. Stay tuned, folks.
Speaker 3: Tornadoes and we've returned, and boy howdy are the winds
Speaker 3: spinning around and giving us some interesting things to talk
Speaker 3: about some terrifying things. In fact, I guess we can
Speaker 3: start with just the fact that tornado season this year
Speaker 3: is kicking off to be intense and dangerous and happening
Speaker 3: more eastward than it normally would.
Speaker 4: Do you think they align that with the rollout of
Speaker 4: Twisters the movie coming soon to a theater near you.
Speaker 1: Natural Disasters is viral marketing? I think so before we
Speaker 1: could tell you, though, Matt, because we are an inter
Speaker 1: we do have an international audience. We are a global show.
Speaker 1: Is it true that tornadoes tend to occur most often
Speaker 1: in the US in a normal season, or is that
Speaker 1: a misapprehension.
Speaker 3: Well, tornadoes can't only occur in the United States, but
Speaker 3: they happen most frequently here, and for a long time. Historically,
Speaker 3: tornadoes occurred in the central part of the United States,
Speaker 3: a place that is known as Tornado Alley, although that
Speaker 3: ali isn't quite what it used to be, and it
Speaker 3: wasn't really true actually for the entirety of the existence
Speaker 3: of the thing called Tornado Alley. It's actually a much
Speaker 3: larger swath of the United States. So if we take
Speaker 3: a look at our US maps, especially if we live
Speaker 3: outside of it, look at this thing look at the center,
Speaker 3: really look at Oklahoma and the states surrounding Oklahoma.
Speaker 4: Well, it likes some flat right Like it certainly helps
Speaker 4: if it's a really flat part of the country.
Speaker 3: The plains are a really great place for these types
Speaker 3: of winds and storms of the things that create tornadoes.
Speaker 3: But the whole point here is that Tornado Alley is
Speaker 3: becoming much much bigger, and it's moving eastward. So if okay,
Speaker 3: we have to think about some meteorological stuff. Everybody winds,
Speaker 3: the prevailing winds that go across the earth above the
Speaker 3: United States, they move from west to east. There's kind
Speaker 3: of two of them that snake around a little bit,
Speaker 3: and those winds cause storms in general to move across
Speaker 3: the contiguous United States that same direction, from west to east,
Speaker 3: and generally tornadoes follow along parent storms. Like imagine just
Speaker 3: a giant thunderstorm, and then a tornado occurs with that
Speaker 3: little twisting wind of that cyclonic wind that begins high
Speaker 3: above the earth, and then as it moves down and
Speaker 3: it touches down on the earth, and that's how you
Speaker 3: get a tornado. Today we're going to talk about some
Speaker 3: weird stuff happening with those storms. The first thing we're
Speaker 3: going to talk about today that was strange occurred on
Speaker 3: April thirtieth. It's something called an anti cyclonic tornado. Guys,
Speaker 3: what do you think that is?
Speaker 4: Is it like a reverse tornado?
Speaker 3: Is it antimatter?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: It sounds really scary though.
Speaker 3: Whatever it is, it's literally just a tornado that's spinning
Speaker 3: in the quote wrong direction.
Speaker 4: That's okay.
Speaker 3: So I was FROs right, I said, you're absolutely right. Okay, cool,
Speaker 3: you're absolutely right.
Speaker 4: Neither the wind.
Speaker 3: So most tornadoes that happened within the United States turn
Speaker 3: in a counterclockwise way, but an anti cyclonic tornado turns clockwise.
Speaker 3: That's all it means, guys. But it's only one to
Speaker 3: two percent of all tornadoes that have ever existed, at
Speaker 3: least that have been on record.
Speaker 4: Wait, so, if a tornado is turning clockwise sucks things
Speaker 4: into the eye, does the anti tornado push things outward?
Speaker 3: Kind of Nope, no functions in the same way.
Speaker 4: It's just very interesting turn it.
Speaker 1: So for many of us listening along this evening, the
Speaker 1: question would be, is it something related to hemispheres such
Speaker 1: that you know, toilets right, the anecdotes flush in a
Speaker 1: different direction in the southern hemisphere. Is there any sand to.
Speaker 3: That, Yes, the northern hemisphere. Cyclonic things like tornadoes do
Speaker 3: share this. So it's not just the United States, as
Speaker 3: anybody above the equator to the north, you're going to
Speaker 3: see these counterclockwise spinning storms. In the South, you're getting
Speaker 3: the others. But for some reason this undecided to be strange.
Speaker 3: But that's not the only thing strange about it. Not
Speaker 3: only was it spinning the wrong way, it came to
Speaker 3: an almost complete stop. Like imagine a huge storm moving
Speaker 3: across a tornado forms it touches down. Now instead of
Speaker 3: that tornado following along with the storm, the storm keeps moving,
Speaker 3: but that tornado just chills in one spot and wreaks
Speaker 3: havoc in one general area.
Speaker 1: A stationary twister.
Speaker 3: A stationary twister exactly, very very strange, very uncommon. It's
Speaker 3: a weird thing that occurred, right and as tornadoes are
Speaker 3: probably heavily in your news feeds with all of the
Speaker 3: craziness that's been going on at the end of April
Speaker 3: and starting into May, as we are guys in the
Speaker 3: middle of tornado season. It's gonna last another month or two.
Speaker 3: More weird things are happening with tornadoes. For example, the
Speaker 3: first ever tornado emergency on record in Michigan was just
Speaker 3: issued on Tuesday, as we're recording this on Wednesday, so
Speaker 3: that's Tuesday, May seventh, which is pretty crazy. It's the
Speaker 3: first tornado emergency on record for Michigan. That was That
Speaker 3: comes from the National Weather Service, the NWS, which is
Speaker 3: part of the NOAA, the National what is it, Oceanic
Speaker 3: and Atmospheric Administration.
Speaker 4: I think that's right, yeah, Noah for sure. Do you
Speaker 4: think they wrote it like they had the acronym because
Speaker 4: of the Noah and the arc and the weather and
Speaker 4: all that, and then created the things after the fact,
Speaker 4: or it was just a happy coincidence that it spelled
Speaker 4: out Noah.
Speaker 1: Bob Ross happy accident.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: I love that because if it was, if it were
Speaker 1: on purpose, they would have added something like that's true pop,
Speaker 1: it's true hemispheric, you know, so with an h.
Speaker 3: Very nice, Oh guys, I didn't even mention. On that
Speaker 3: same day, on April thirtieth, there was another very odd
Speaker 3: thing that occurred almost simultaneously as the anti cyclonic tornado.
Speaker 3: There was a tornado that instead of moving from west
Speaker 3: to east as we talked about which is the way
Speaker 3: they go. This one started moving that way from west
Speaker 3: to east and then stopped and then turned around and
Speaker 3: went back on the same exact route that it had
Speaker 3: come from where it was spawned, So it like did
Speaker 3: a double whammy on the ground.
Speaker 4: Matt, I do have to ask you know, I saw
Speaker 4: a movie I went saw Civil War in the theaters
Speaker 4: the other day, and the previews included a preview for
Speaker 4: this new Twister reboot, Twisters in the spirit of alien
Speaker 4: and Aliens. I guess it's time there two. But they
Speaker 4: were like, weren't there two in the first one anyway?
Speaker 4: But is there any truth to this idea of like
Speaker 4: storm chasers and people that like invent these weird things
Speaker 4: that could shoot up inside the twister and get photography
Speaker 4: or map them in some way using like tech, Like
Speaker 4: I just I literally all I know about this world
Speaker 4: is what I saw in the movie with Bill Pullman
Speaker 4: and the flying cows. I didn't know if you had
Speaker 4: run across anything like that in your research on the topic.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, if you go back to our Discovery days
Speaker 3: and and just follow along with Discovery, they've got shows
Speaker 3: about people who do that very thing, who who build
Speaker 3: custom vehicles, customer drones.
Speaker 4: Things.
Speaker 1: Got I got close to uh riding in one of
Speaker 1: those very weird vans, but the satellite dishes and little
Speaker 1: BIPs and bobs and yeah, yeah, just in rejected. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there is some that's a little bit uh, you know,
Speaker 1: move a fide right for a bit embellished. But that
Speaker 1: stuff is real and does exist. As far as my understanding,
Speaker 1: I just had to to some degree.
Speaker 4: But I just it's not my wheelhouse, y'all. O, you
Speaker 4: got no worries, man, do a search for something called
Speaker 4: Tornado Intercept Vehicle one.
Speaker 3: It is one of the most badass vehicles you'll ever see.
Speaker 3: It's developed so that it's a you know, a vehicle
Speaker 3: that travels on the road with wheels, right, But then
Speaker 3: it's got I don't even know, I wasn't going to
Speaker 3: say buttressed sides, but it's got the edges that go
Speaker 3: all the way down to the ground so it can
Speaker 3: kind of sit down on the ground where wind can't
Speaker 3: get underneath it and pick it up the way a
Speaker 3: traditional vehicle would be lifted.
Speaker 1: Maximizing a lower center of gravity is part of it, right,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you want to have beat me here, doc,
Speaker 1: You want to have a real on those things.
Speaker 4: In a way, what are tornadoes if not kind of
Speaker 4: weaponized gravity? Am I right? Hot take there? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yes, I mean a lot of other forces
Speaker 1: to weaponize, just gravity.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm clearly an expert.
Speaker 3: What is crazy?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: Storms in general, we don't think about them, maybe that
Speaker 3: often we I think we all share maybe a love
Speaker 3: of a good thunderstorm. Right, we talked about that before,
Speaker 3: like when when there's when there's electricity flashing off above
Speaker 3: us and the power of the sound waves that ripple through.
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's something pretty dope about that.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's intense. It's intense, and it really makes you,
Speaker 4: I mean not to sound cliche, but realize how small
Speaker 4: we are, how we're all just sort of somehow, you know,
Speaker 4: hanging on to this spinning rock and could be sucked
Speaker 4: off into space at any moment or you know, set
Speaker 4: on fire. Right, yes, solar rays, yes.
Speaker 1: I guess on behalf of the audience again, what gives
Speaker 1: is this a break from previous patterns? It it appears
Speaker 1: to be so, and if so, do meteorologists have a
Speaker 1: conclusion on as to why this might be occurring? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they said, who knows ah, and then they got
Speaker 3: in their storm shelters just like the rest of us did. No,
Speaker 3: They've got a bunch of ideas about what's going on.
Speaker 3: A lot of it has to do with change record
Speaker 3: heat levels. We're on track to have the second hottest
Speaker 3: basically period during a tornado season. There's all kinds of
Speaker 3: really interesting information. If you want to look it up,
Speaker 3: you can. You can find an article from fizzorg titled
Speaker 3: what's with the recent wild tornadoes? Experts way in. Lots
Speaker 3: of good information in there. But the weather experts over
Speaker 3: at Acuweather are predicting that there will be somewhere between
Speaker 3: twelve hundred and fifty two one three hundred and seventy
Speaker 3: five tornadoes across the USA in the year twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: And you know, we're just inside the season right now,
Speaker 3: but it's definitely above the historical average. And you can
Speaker 3: check out some places where gosh, the record number of
Speaker 3: tornadoes in April, or like the historical record number of
Speaker 3: tornadoes in April. I think we hit number two this
Speaker 3: past April with around three hundred storms that produced tornadoes
Speaker 3: or three hundred tornadoes that were produced in storms. Guys
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that in twenty eleven there was an
Speaker 3: historic outbreak like number one with a bullet on there,
Speaker 3: and it had over seven hundred tornadoes in April.
Speaker 4: So it's just getting worse every year progressively, is what
Speaker 4: you're saying.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, twenty eleven had over seven I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: this year had around three hundred.
Speaker 4: Oh I'm sorry. I what's the deal with predicting twelve
Speaker 4: fifty to thirteen seventy five?
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm talking about just the month of April here, Okay,
Speaker 3: got you got, you got your and Aci Weather's talking
Speaker 3: about the entirety of the tornado season.
Speaker 4: So all the April is typically a stormy month, right,
Speaker 4: I mean it's sort of a wet, a wet month.
Speaker 1: April is the cruelest month, said Selliot.
Speaker 4: Well, you know it's fun. I don't know if you
Speaker 4: guys think about this, but like when I picture sort
Speaker 4: of a scorched earth, barren apocalypse world, I often picture unhinged, chaotic,
Speaker 4: deadly storms raging at all times. You know, And maybe
Speaker 4: that's something that I've picked up from sci fi or whatever,
Speaker 4: But you do have to wonder if this is going
Speaker 4: to escalate? Is this going to be the kind of thing.
Speaker 4: This is going to be a new problem that we
Speaker 4: have to contend with. And like, figure, okay, oh geez,
Speaker 4: we've got another deadly, you know, tornado that's coming out
Speaker 4: as a better kide in our bunkers or whatever.
Speaker 1: Well, shout out to hurricanes, right, Shout out to the
Speaker 1: people getting priced out of Florida and parts of the
Speaker 1: Gulf because insurance is increasingly not messing with them. I
Speaker 1: think also on one note that will be important for
Speaker 1: people in the region loosely known as Tornado Alley or
Speaker 1: however it becomes defined in the future, is that it
Speaker 1: seems like, and Matt correct me here if i am
Speaker 1: If I'm off base, tornadoes are clustering more often, Is
Speaker 1: that correct?
Speaker 4: Oh geez?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, imagine one single storm that rolls through that's huge, right,
Speaker 3: that covers maybe a large part of let's say, Alabama. Ben,
Speaker 3: what you're talking about with clustering, it's like that storm
Speaker 3: is producing multiple tornadoes, and then they are also interacting
Speaker 3: in weird ways, like they're getting really close to each other.
Speaker 3: Those two weird tornadoes that we talked about, the one
Speaker 3: that was spinning clockwise and the other one that went
Speaker 3: back on its own track. Those were that was the
Speaker 3: same storm, and they were happening happening almost simultaneously in
Speaker 3: the same part of Oklahoma.
Speaker 4: WHOA, but bro, what happens if an anti and a
Speaker 4: regular tornado meet? Does it cause like a time space
Speaker 4: rifts or like, I mean, that just seems like really
Speaker 4: deadly equal and opposite forces. I just wonder if that
Speaker 4: creates something new or spawns something. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 4: sorry if I'm this has got my imagination running wild.
Speaker 3: As you can sell unsure one day we will find out.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, it does feel like a weird coincidence because Twisters,
Speaker 3: the movie from Universal Slash Warner Brothers, is getting a
Speaker 3: ton of press and doing a lot of promo right now.
Speaker 3: So actually, I mean, of course, right it's tornado season.
Speaker 3: Somebody somewhere in a marketing room was like, hey, this
Speaker 3: is great. Oh my god, you see how many how
Speaker 3: many people are googling tornadoes right now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we happened to the death and destruction. Let's piggyback
Speaker 4: on that movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there are rumors and all kinds of stuff
Speaker 3: going around that they're somehow related. Obviously they're not pretty
Speaker 3: sure Universal Pictures doesn't have a weather machine unless they do,
Speaker 3: and if you hear about that, please let us know.
Speaker 3: But if you do want to pay attention to the
Speaker 3: weather around you and what's going on this year, cannot
Speaker 3: recommend enough that National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration NWS site.
Speaker 3: It is SPC dot NOAA dot gov, and that is
Speaker 3: the Storm Prediction Center and it gives you well in
Speaker 3: advance of where potential storms would be. It's a lot
Speaker 3: in the same way many of us would probably use,
Speaker 3: like the Weather Channel app or one of those any
Speaker 3: other weather app but this thing is super robust and
Speaker 3: super cool. Highly recommend. All right with that, we are
Speaker 3: going to break from these storms and we will be
Speaker 3: right back with more strange news.
Speaker 4: And we're back, as promised with the hip hop Beef
Speaker 4: of the Century, y'all, man, I wish the century. I
Speaker 4: don't know. Maybe I don't know. How's hip hop been
Speaker 4: around for a century. This seems is a pretty big one, dude.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Tupac it is.
Speaker 1: It's approaching big levels.
Speaker 4: I would thank you. Let's just get there, because I
Speaker 4: feel like.
Speaker 1: For anybody who doesn't who is it read onto hip
Speaker 1: hop or a fad Nolan sounds like you're talking about
Speaker 1: two very specific people, Oh Absol.
Speaker 4: Freaking lowly Kendrick Lamar and Drake a ka Aubrey Graham,
Speaker 4: which I didn't know until I started following the story famously.
Speaker 4: You know, a multi platinum, gajillionaire hip hop artist. I
Speaker 4: kind of hesitate to call him exclusively a rapper an MC.
Speaker 4: I think of him a little more as a singer
Speaker 4: sometimes than a pop star. He does have rap chops,
Speaker 4: but he also was revealed to have had ghost writers,
Speaker 4: which is a big no no, a big way of
Speaker 4: getting clowns in the hip hop community, because the strength
Speaker 4: of your rap abilities depends and your prowess as an
Speaker 4: MC you'll you know, bend your super student of hip
Speaker 4: hop largely entirely depends on people believing that the lyrics
Speaker 4: are coming from you and they reflect your worldview and
Speaker 4: your understanding and your wit and your ability to turn
Speaker 4: phrases and to you know, they call them ciphers because
Speaker 4: if you read these things on paper, a lot of
Speaker 4: times there's a lot of hidden meaning. And sometimes these
Speaker 4: things are going past you so fast you got to
Speaker 4: listen a couple of times to catch all of the
Speaker 4: little nuances in there, so.
Speaker 1: Struck a chord and it's probably a mind or very clever.
Speaker 4: So Kendrick Lamar, who I would definitely call a rapper.
Speaker 4: I think he's one, you know, and you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: maybe I'm showing my bias, but I'm definitely team Kendrick here.
Speaker 4: I think he is probably one of the best rappers
Speaker 4: of our generation. He's clever, he's got that worldview. He
Speaker 4: uses different interesting musicians and production. I think to pimp
Speaker 4: Butterfly is just like a fabulous record through and through.
Speaker 4: Drake has some very catchy songs, but I would not
Speaker 4: call myself a fan of his, and I would not
Speaker 4: necessarily put them in the same caliber with each other,
Speaker 4: but just the same Drake who is mega, mega, mega famous.
Speaker 4: It has been for a lot longer than Kendrick has been,
Speaker 4: though Kendrick is mega famous now as well. Kind of
Speaker 4: gave Kendrick his starting away by including him on his
Speaker 4: Club Paradise tour back in the like kind of mid
Speaker 4: ought to think it was maybe twenty fifteen, and also
Speaker 4: included asp Rocky, which he was another star who was
Speaker 4: very big with this Plant and.
Speaker 1: Doc requires us to point out that Kendrick Lamar literally
Speaker 1: has a pullet, so.
Speaker 4: He does have a bullet. No slouch, man, this guy.
Speaker 4: You know, if you listen to Pimpa, Butterfly and then
Speaker 4: Good Kid, Mad City, like, I mean, the guy's got
Speaker 4: stuff to say. And I honestly, sometimes when I'm listening
Speaker 4: to him, it's like reading My Angelou poetry or something like.
Speaker 4: It's incredibly stirring and moving and it makes me feel away.
Speaker 4: Drake's you know, it makes me feel a way too,
Speaker 4: but it's a little more. It's like, oh, this is cute,
Speaker 4: this is fine. I like that hotline bling or whatever.
Speaker 4: I like God's Plan, That's a cool track. But point is,
Speaker 4: Drake gave Kendrick kind of his start, and ever since
Speaker 4: then there was a brief period where they were kind
Speaker 4: of copastic, and then you know, literally it's been raging
Speaker 4: going on, gradually getting worse and worse for about ten years.
Speaker 4: There have been these like beefs, these kind of snipey
Speaker 4: back and forth between them that at first were kind
Speaker 4: of more subtle. We're sort of buried. You'd only know
Speaker 4: if you were a true hip hop head and you
Speaker 4: were really digging for this stuff. They get asked about
Speaker 4: it in the press. Oh was that line meant for Kendrick?
Speaker 4: Was that line meant for Drake? Et cetera. But something happened,
Speaker 4: and I could tell you what the timeline is. But
Speaker 4: there are people that are more qualified to do this.
Speaker 4: If you look up on YouTube Kendrick versus Drake, there
Speaker 4: are people that have hour and a half long dissections
Speaker 4: of the whole history of this stuff, going lyric by lyric,
Speaker 4: pointing to exactly who was talking about who, when and
Speaker 4: in what song. I'm not going we're not gonna do
Speaker 4: that here, but in the last I guess month or so,
Speaker 4: it's just heated up to the point where now it
Speaker 4: seems as though the outcome of this could well be
Speaker 4: somebody getting hurt in to your point, been in Tupac
Speaker 4: Biggie fashion. It is gotten to the point now where
Speaker 4: Kendrick and Drake, Kendrick Lamar and Drake are sniping at
Speaker 4: each other so directly and with such a level of
Speaker 4: kind of research and like airing of dirty laundry. That's
Speaker 4: not just the old school hip hop beef style of
Speaker 4: you know, I've had sex with your girlfriend or whatever,
Speaker 4: like you're a terrible rapper, you know, whatever you got,
Speaker 4: no no style, whatever, you're a clowns. It's beyond that.
Speaker 4: It's like Kendrick Lamar is openly accusing Drake aka or
Speaker 4: I guess Aubrey Graham aka Drake of having a secret daughter,
Speaker 4: of being a pedophile. I mean, it's the hook of
Speaker 4: one of his songs. It says, what does you say?
Speaker 4: Certified lover boys, certified pedophile And it's one of the
Speaker 4: most repeatable parts of that song, which by the way,
Speaker 4: is a stone cold banger and could actually be played
Speaker 4: in clubs. It is a dancy, fun song and it's
Speaker 4: intense to what he's actually saying in it. But it's
Speaker 4: called not like Us, if I'm not mistaken, And on
Speaker 4: the cover art that he put out on Spotify and
Speaker 4: all the streamers, it's an aerial shot of Drake's house
Speaker 4: in Toronto, Canada's compound with these little signs, little graphics
Speaker 4: that are used to mark sex offenders, where sex offenders
Speaker 4: live all over the property, like on the roof.
Speaker 1: And this is this if true, would not, for the record,
Speaker 1: would not be the first time someone successfully punked Drake
Speaker 1: a little bit. I would draw the president to the
Speaker 1: earlier pusher t push a t album. Push came out
Speaker 1: with Story Addon, and if it were not for the
Speaker 1: intervention of a former guest on our show, Jay Prince,
Speaker 1: Push would have continued with that beef. So it's like
Speaker 1: it's a long time coming. I think. No. Also, the
Speaker 1: I don't want to derail us, but I know the timeline.
Speaker 1: It's tricky. I think for a lot of people. Uh,
Speaker 1: the first foray in this would be that that song
Speaker 1: he did with Future metro boomen on that we don't
Speaker 1: Trust your album. But even before then, Kendrick Lebar dropped
Speaker 1: like a god Verse on a song called Control.
Speaker 4: That's the one where he calls out as contemporaries including
Speaker 4: j Cole, including I think Tyler the creator, including Walle
Speaker 4: and there were maybe two or three others, but including Drake.
Speaker 4: And but here's the thing. The funny thing about that
Speaker 4: is Drake is kind of famously sensitive, and all those
Speaker 4: other guys that he dropped their names, they all took
Speaker 4: it and try It's like it's the game, you know,
Speaker 4: you got to talk, a big game. You gotta talk,
Speaker 4: you know, have this swagger and but but Drake is
Speaker 4: his interviewer. He's like, man, I didn't think that was
Speaker 4: cool thought that was gonna mean. I mean, I'm exaggerating
Speaker 4: a little bit.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I sounded like a plunk, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did we talk about how this all started?
Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing, though it's not entirely clear, I know.
Speaker 4: And then the most tell me what you think, because
Speaker 4: it really is it's along the thing. The song we're
Speaker 4: talking about was back in twenty eighteen or twenty sixteen,
Speaker 4: I believe, right been the control.
Speaker 1: They collaborated together, I think first in twenty eleven. But
Speaker 1: but yeah, what's the what's the.
Speaker 3: Wors I'm looking at the Forbes article that you posted
Speaker 3: in our in our dock here and they go.
Speaker 4: The most recent timeline. But the reason this is so
Speaker 4: complex is there are little barbs and things trick you know,
Speaker 4: kind of trickled, sprinkled throughout the history of these two
Speaker 4: guys being in the public eye. After they had a
Speaker 4: kind of a quiet falling out, and then it seemed
Speaker 4: like for years Drake kept trying to like make nice
Speaker 4: with Kendrick and then also do little things to kind
Speaker 4: of piss him off. But Kendrick just seems to be
Speaker 4: just righteously indignant, and it seems to know something and
Speaker 4: was gonna be quiet about it, but then Drake couldn't
Speaker 4: keep his mouth shut. But let's talk about the current timeline, Matt,
Speaker 4: are you talking about the First Person Shooter?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Drake and j Cole doing a collaboration called First
Speaker 3: Person Shooter, And according to Forbes, j Cole just says, Hey,
Speaker 3: the big three at some point in this song, I
Speaker 3: guess are himself, Drake, and Kendrick Lamar. And that seems
Speaker 3: like a positive thing to me, I guess, but I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: Kendrick responded when he beat me here, Doc, the big
Speaker 1: three is just big me, which is very is very
Speaker 1: hip hop.
Speaker 4: It a million percent. But again, I you know, Kendrick
Speaker 4: isn't above that. That's part of the game. It's part
Speaker 4: of like, you know, the way you establish yourself as
Speaker 4: being the best. If that's truly what you're interested in,
Speaker 4: you know, that's that's part of it. He clearly is
Speaker 4: interested in that. But he's also interested in political action.
Speaker 4: And know again, I really think so much of Kendrick's
Speaker 4: work is like poetry, you know, and hip hop, and
Speaker 4: it's its best for him should feel like that, I
Speaker 4: think in a lot of ways, but I do find
Speaker 4: it interesting that that is Jake Cole was part of
Speaker 4: this and that he participated in that. And then he
Speaker 4: dropped a disc track but then like deleted it because
Speaker 4: he was like, you know what, y'all can have this.
Speaker 4: I'm out, this is too much for me.
Speaker 1: I felt icky, basically is what he said. He said
Speaker 1: it was goofy. And then later leaks would reveal because
Speaker 1: people often act hard, but we have to understand a
Speaker 1: lot of them are just kind of gossipy gusses. So
Speaker 1: word came out of course that he got. He got
Speaker 1: kind of the equivalent of a school shooter letter that says,
Speaker 1: hey man, you were always nice to me. Don't go
Speaker 1: to class tomorrow. And he pulled it out and he said, Jesus,
Speaker 1: you know, I felt like it was goofy. So shout
Speaker 1: out to j Cole. It appears he made the right choice.
Speaker 1: He's a he's a adominal and see Kendrick is a
Speaker 1: phenomenal mc drake is a quite successful hops and chainer,
Speaker 1: you know, and j Cole, I like the picture of
Speaker 1: he's somewhere with his family, you know, he's by a beach,
Speaker 1: he's got his shoes off, he's listening to Lo fi
Speaker 1: instrumental beats to study too.
Speaker 4: You've got cucumbers on his eyes. You know, he's living
Speaker 4: his best life.
Speaker 1: Wait, Doc says he's literally at the beach. A picture
Speaker 1: dropped on May eighth.
Speaker 4: That's fantastic and you love to see that. And I
Speaker 4: gotta say, there is part of me that's a little
Speaker 4: disappointed in Kendrick to kind of get in the mud
Speaker 4: like this. I always did sort of think of him
Speaker 4: as sort of like being the bigger man or whatever.
Speaker 4: But honestly, if what he's saying is true, and these
Speaker 4: are allegations, obviously we don't want to get sued. We're
Speaker 4: not saying we know anything, you know, unequivocally about Drake
Speaker 4: being into little kids or whatever. But like he's dropping
Speaker 4: these allegations. He's talking too, like that. One of his
Speaker 4: responses was like directed at one of Drake's sons, like
Speaker 4: talking directly to him about how your father is trash
Speaker 4: and he is at war with himself. And it's like deconstructing,
Speaker 4: like Hannibal Lecter, making the guy on the next cell
Speaker 4: swallow his own tongue kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Talking to Drake's parents and a million So there's also
Speaker 1: allegations like okay, without getting into into the discourse here,
Speaker 1: because I know we're getting to the real life consequences
Speaker 1: in a second right. The Drake response to these allegations.
Speaker 1: The primary grievances on both sides are the allegations that
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar because why he assaulted his wife songs like
Speaker 1: mister Morale or whatever. And then there's also the idea
Speaker 1: that Kendrick Lamar, we've never met either of these individuals
Speaker 1: they are The argument is that he is escalating the
Speaker 1: long standing allegations that the pop star Drake may have
Speaker 1: been grooming children sliding into DMS, as is the parlance
Speaker 1: of our day, specifically, I think stranger things.
Speaker 4: Millie, Bobby Brown, there's some unfortunate did not age well,
Speaker 4: Hella it didn't look good that day. It's bad news
Speaker 4: where he's I believe in Canada and has a girl
Speaker 4: up on stage. This is in his early days, and
Speaker 4: he's kind of, you know, being handsy and fondling her
Speaker 4: as part of his act sort of, and then he
Speaker 4: asks old. She says she's seventeen, and he sort of says, damn, like,
Speaker 4: you look like that and you're seventeen. But then he
Speaker 4: continues and apparently in Canada the age of consent is seventeen.
Speaker 4: That's still freaking gross and weird. I think he was
Speaker 4: like twenty three or something. And he's done a lot
Speaker 4: of damage to himself. In one of his responses, he
Speaker 4: kind of outs himself by dropping Millie Bobby Brown's name,
Speaker 4: when Kendrick never did that, and just saying something to
Speaker 4: the effect of, I couldn't be a pedophile. I'm too
Speaker 4: famous for that, and if it was true, I'd already
Speaker 4: be in jail. Well, we know that's not the case
Speaker 4: from any number of situations where famous people have carried
Speaker 4: on for a very long time doing very horrible things.
Speaker 4: So he's either clueless or I don't know, just it
Speaker 4: has no sense of how that reads. Is really tone
Speaker 4: deaf or the.
Speaker 1: Other conspiracy And this is something that was pretty common
Speaker 1: in forms at the beginning. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: rap is just like wrestling, right, it's very k faith.
Speaker 4: So you got to be a heel sometimes, you know, Right.
Speaker 1: So is there any sand in your opinion nol to
Speaker 1: the idea that this was orchestrated in order to bring
Speaker 1: hip hop back to prevalence. On say, the billboard charts
Speaker 1: are in the AA.
Speaker 4: Well, that's an interesting point, ben in speaking of the
Speaker 4: Billboard charts. You know, when I think of rap beefs
Speaker 4: of this level, maybe this is sort of a modern
Speaker 4: rap beef because it's with the age of streaming. This
Speaker 4: stuff can be made available instantly. But these songs are charting,
Speaker 4: you know, like in a big way. Kendrick songs specifically.
Speaker 4: I don't think any of drinks are, but Kendricks are charting.
Speaker 4: And I believe the one of them, the most recent one,
Speaker 4: maybe it was Euphoria. He has four, but it got
Speaker 4: let's see the most. It's the most streamed song by
Speaker 4: an American hip hop artist in the history of Spotify.
Speaker 4: It's got I think in a single day. I think
Speaker 4: it did like seven million streams in a single day.
Speaker 4: So that's a big deal. But lasting to your question,
Speaker 4: and then we'll move on to some of the consequences
Speaker 4: and then and then hit a break. But I was
Speaker 4: thinking that too. A lot of you know, the folks
Speaker 4: that are really following this. There were certainly allegations of
Speaker 4: this was some sort of manufactured beef, but at this
Speaker 4: point it's gotten so nasty and personal and like this
Speaker 4: level of specificity and like, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 4: think it is. I think this is very, very real.
Speaker 4: And Kendrick Lamar, whether it's a righteous quest on his part,
Speaker 4: is trying his damnedest to ruin Drake's life, and I
Speaker 4: think he is largely succeeding because the Internet, by all accounts,
Speaker 4: has ruled that Kendrick is the winner for the most part.
Speaker 4: I think in his final disresponse, it almost feels like
Speaker 4: Drake's waving a white flag a little bit. And there
Speaker 4: was an attempt on his life at his home in Canada,
Speaker 4: the aforementioned sprawling compound. One of his bodyguards was severely
Speaker 4: injured in a drive by shooting, you know. And I
Speaker 4: believe one of Drake's flagship stores He's got this like
Speaker 4: brand Ovo, was spray painted with the words He's not
Speaker 4: like us or not like us. And you know, that's
Speaker 4: the thing is because Kendrick has always sort of come
Speaker 4: off as like a an artist of the people, you know,
Speaker 4: hence the Pulitzer. I guess he's speaking to speaking to
Speaker 4: an experience that can is relatable in some ways. Drake,
Speaker 4: on the other hand, has always been a little bit
Speaker 4: more champagne poppy vibes and like look at my mayback
Speaker 4: and all that stuff. So I think in calling it
Speaker 4: not like us, he's calling him out, saying you're a phony,
Speaker 4: you know, you're you're out of touch, you know, and
Speaker 4: you're on the level of like compares him to Jeffrey
Speaker 4: Epstein for Christ's sake. I mean, it's not good. Oh sorry,
Speaker 4: and that that free I did. I already say that
Speaker 4: phrase was spray painted. And I just feel like these
Speaker 4: are the you know, unless Kendrick comes out and says,
Speaker 4: don't do this, y'all. But it could be like the
Speaker 4: badger's already out of the bag, right, I don't know, Ben,
Speaker 4: where do you see this going? Do you see this as?
Speaker 4: I mean, to me, it feels like it could end
Speaker 4: in somebody getting hurt real bad.
Speaker 1: But so I also think it is uh, it is
Speaker 1: successfully distracting a lot of people from chaos abroad.
Speaker 3: Well sure, and Sean Combs, I really wish we knew, Uh,
Speaker 3: who's that guy we always look to for advice?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, joh rule Man.
Speaker 3: I wish we knew what he had to say.
Speaker 4: One person who we do know what he has to
Speaker 4: say is I guess friend of the network Questlove Amir
Speaker 4: Questlove Thompson, who has this to say on his Instagram.
Speaker 4: Famously outspoken, absolute hip hop head, very very very smart,
Speaker 4: very thoughtful guy, multiple published books, Oscar winning documentary filmmaker,
Speaker 4: and incredible musician. He has this to say, Nobody won
Speaker 4: the war. This wasn't about skill. This was a wrestling
Speaker 4: match level mud slinging and takedown by any means necessary.
Speaker 4: Women and children and actual facts be damned. Same audience
Speaker 4: wanting blood will soon put up rip posts like they
Speaker 4: weren't part of the problem. Hip hop is truly dead.
Speaker 1: Oh rip post is nice little wordplay from Uncle quest post.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, I think that we give Quest
Speaker 4: the last word. That's a pretty excellent summation of all
Speaker 4: of this. And again I'm almost a little disappointed in
Speaker 4: Kendrick for going there. But if his goal is to
Speaker 4: expose something that might be even more egregious and despicable
Speaker 4: than we even know, then maybe that's the choice he
Speaker 4: had to make, was to get in the mud. You know,
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe he's got a worm in his brain. Oh,
Speaker 4: let's hear about that.
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Speaker 1: Perfect, My fellow Americans, as you may or may not know,
Speaker 1: there is an election upon us. There is always an
Speaker 1: election upon us. Sometimes the choices don't look too great.
Speaker 1: But what if you may be asking yourself, there was
Speaker 1: something that appeared to be a different option from the
Speaker 1: usual false dichotomy of Democrats and Republicans in strides Robert F.
Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior. That's correct, folks, the child the scion of
Speaker 1: the RFK of Old who was assassinated by Sir Hans Sirhan,
Speaker 1: possibly with some intervening variables, one of Mitch, which may
Speaker 1: have been de Tora. Check out our episode on drugs' weapons.
Speaker 1: Also check out an interesting interview with Robert F. Kennedy
Speaker 1: Junior quite recently when he said that he experienced memory
Speaker 1: loss in brain fog and twenty ten, went to get
Speaker 1: treatment and was told by doctors that a parasite eight
Speaker 1: part of his brain, that worm a part of his
Speaker 1: brain and then died. He's fine, he's still in politics.
Speaker 1: He's got some controversial views. He's married to Cheryl Hines,
Speaker 1: who plays Since we always want celebrities at the forefront
Speaker 1: of real issues. He's he's married to Cheryl Hines, who
Speaker 1: plays Larry David's ex wife in the amazing show Curb
Speaker 1: Your Enthusiasm, Ben.
Speaker 4: Does this not strike you as disqualifying type stuff? I mean,
Speaker 4: I know we've put to bed the whole idea of
Speaker 4: age limits and stuff, but a worm ate my brain
Speaker 4: and part okay, and maybe I'm espousing some slightly wacky
Speaker 4: ideas just seems a little oh boy, that's kind of scary. Well.
Speaker 3: I think we can gain some insight when we know
Speaker 3: the context around where those claims came from when he
Speaker 3: made those claims and why.
Speaker 4: I think because.
Speaker 3: They were made during his divorce proceedings and it was
Speaker 3: a big, messy, expensive divorce that he was going through.
Speaker 3: And I would argue, and I can't prove this, you guys,
Speaker 3: that he was attempting to show that his future ability
Speaker 3: to make money. Like when you're going through divorce, it's
Speaker 3: often like, well, how much money are you going to
Speaker 3: make in the future versus how much money you made before?
Speaker 3: And the way the couple lived together financially, right, I
Speaker 3: think the brain thing, they're like, oh man, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be good at any of this
Speaker 3: stuff anymore because amate my brain was a ploy to
Speaker 3: basically pay less money to his soon to.
Speaker 1: Be xy, similar to the Alex Jones claims about how
Speaker 1: eating chili just had some deleterious effects. Yeah, let's jeez. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Let's go to a New York Times and the Alex
Speaker 1: Jones cop is actually not not too far off base
Speaker 1: compared to how RFK Junior is seeing or portrayed in
Speaker 1: mass media. Let's go to a New York Times article
Speaker 1: that came from a while ago May eighth, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: This is something that gets brought up a lot. The
Speaker 1: journalist Suzanne Craig reviewed depositions from that twenty twelve divorce. Matt,
Speaker 1: thank you for the context there and the title of
Speaker 1: this New York Times review or the title of this
Speaker 1: article is. RFK Junior says doctors found a dead worm
Speaker 1: in his brain. Previously undisclosed health issues that just conveniently
Speaker 1: disclose themselves when they are helpful. He said, he talked
Speaker 1: with some of the countries top neurologists, and many of
Speaker 1: those folks had either treated or spoken to his uncle,
Speaker 1: Senator Edward Kennedy before that guy died of brain cancer.
Speaker 1: So here's the issue is this. First off, he is alive,
Speaker 1: he is in fine health. He is hail and hearty
Speaker 1: at this point. But the story still brings some questions
Speaker 1: to people. Now we know that we know that, for instance,
Speaker 1: acidic worms can prey on any number of organisms or animals.
Speaker 1: It's actually one thing that's kind of distressing pre hibernation.
Speaker 1: You can see a lot of bears here in the
Speaker 1: United States with tapeworms literally trailing out of their butts
Speaker 1: like parachute cord. Oh yeah, yeah, because bears eat a
Speaker 1: lot of raw approachure.
Speaker 4: Ben, Is this one of those nematodes like in that
Speaker 4: story that Matt brought about the woman that had like
Speaker 4: the ten inch worm extracted out of her brain or
Speaker 4: what kind of worm are we talking here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this would be according to the guests as people
Speaker 1: were making this would have been most likely what's called
Speaker 1: a pork tapeworm larva. The doctors had not who were
Speaker 1: speaking with The Times, had not treated mister Kennedy. They
Speaker 1: were therefore speaking in general terms. One person that I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed reading about in this specific New York Times
Speaker 1: article doctor Clinton in White, who was a professor of
Speaker 1: infectious diseases at the University of Texas Medical Branch in
Speaker 1: Galveston and said, Hey, microscopic tapewormegs are sticky. They can
Speaker 1: easily transfer from one person to another. Once they're hatched,
Speaker 1: the larvae can travel throughout the bloodstream and end up
Speaker 1: in quote all kinds of tissues. However, it is unlikely
Speaker 1: that a parasite would eat a part of the brain.
Speaker 1: Unlike tapeworm larvae and the intestines, those in the brain
Speaker 1: stay pretty small, about a third of an inch, and
Speaker 1: bad news for some folks. A third of an inch
Speaker 1: is kind of small.
Speaker 4: Well, that's food for thought. Ben bought for foods. Ben
Speaker 4: was literally him saying that I had diminished earning power,
Speaker 4: so I want to pay less child support. Now this
Speaker 4: is coming back to bite him in the butt. Is
Speaker 4: this going to have any real world impact on his
Speaker 4: political aspirations.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting question. Yeah, because around the same time
Speaker 1: there was also the claim that he suffered from mercury
Speaker 1: poisoning the souphold hat or disease. Yeah, it just eating
Speaker 1: too much fish, according to the deposition. That's his Alexyally, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: we know that mercury poisoning can lead to neurological disturbances
Speaker 1: and issues with memory. There's a great summation of this,
Speaker 1: by the way, in the Hill by the journalist Lawrence Fororza,
Speaker 1: which also named checks the New York Times article. And
Speaker 1: so this guy, as he said, Nolan, just can't get
Speaker 1: a break in the deposition. He said, I have cognitive problems. Clearly,
Speaker 1: I have short term memory loss. I have a longer
Speaker 1: term memory loss. It affects me. And that's interesting because
Speaker 1: we have to ask if this guy should be president, right,
Speaker 1: if if he should be running a campaign. Now, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, as we all know, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: the United States on paper is a meritocracy. In practice
Speaker 1: it often ends up being dynastic. It ends up being
Speaker 1: something very close to, unfortunately, an aristocracy, something that would
Speaker 1: shame the founders of this country to realize. Even the ones,
Speaker 1: well maybe not the ones wanted George Washington to be
Speaker 1: the monarch, but they're all dead.
Speaker 4: George Washington always had a bit of a kingly look too,
Speaker 4: didn't they is.
Speaker 1: Fortunate, to be honest, a little bit, right. That was
Speaker 1: all propaganda. He was very tall for his age.
Speaker 4: Yeah, clearly their intent was was evidence in the way
Speaker 4: that he was you know, photographed and then wasn't he
Speaker 4: also Kennedy one of the people that was calling for
Speaker 4: Biden to prove that he wasn't like having cognitive decline,
Speaker 4: like to take some sort of test or something. And
Speaker 4: now this and respect doesn't make that look particularly fair
Speaker 4: or you know, reasonable.
Speaker 1: And to be fair, we have not met Robert Kennedy
Speaker 1: Junior ourselves. He is as of the time in this recording,
Speaker 1: he is seventy years old. I believe his birth his
Speaker 1: next birthday will be in twenty twenty five. But he's
Speaker 1: also been associated with things that would be considered controversial
Speaker 1: in terms of like he's very anti vaccination for COVID
Speaker 1: perhaps in general.
Speaker 4: Proposed to have vaccination for brain worms.
Speaker 1: Well he's against it. That guy eats pork brains and
Speaker 1: eggs every morning. I'm kidding, but that is just so
Speaker 1: you know, folks, if you're not from the US, that
Speaker 1: is a thing people eat, especially in the Southeast right now.
Speaker 4: My parents were into it. My Grandpapa would make it,
Speaker 4: called it brains and eggs, and I had it a
Speaker 4: couple of times and it ain't bad. It's good, yeah,
Speaker 4: but it doesn't have what's it called prions. It can
Speaker 4: have these parasites if it's not treated correctly. There you go.
Speaker 1: And for people who believe that there are dangerous or
Speaker 1: hidden her conspiratorial effects of COVID nineteen vaccination rollouts, he
Speaker 1: is considered one of the leading sort of faces of
Speaker 1: that argument. He's also linked. He's also one of the
Speaker 1: people will link vaccines and existence on the autism spectrum.
Speaker 1: He is also speaking of rap beef. This is like
Speaker 1: old guy rap beef. He's taking shots at Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: Bill Gates, everybody's favorite Anthony Fauci, which is just such
Speaker 1: a ridiculous name to say, and it rhymes with everything,
Speaker 1: which is why I Founducauci. He shows up at a
Speaker 1: lot of hip hop. But with this again we have
Speaker 1: to ask two great points there are raised here which
Speaker 1: are perhaps can tradictory. One the idea of motivation for
Speaker 1: making these claims. We're not saying the guy is lying,
Speaker 1: you know, and we do know that people do get
Speaker 1: parasites in their brain. But I really appreciate the points
Speaker 1: we've raised here too about what's it called ability to serve.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that happens whenever you run for totus.
Speaker 1: Mainly right though, I assume without verifying it, and I
Speaker 1: assume without verified that a lot of members of Congress
Speaker 1: are also required to, you know, have a physical We've
Speaker 1: seen some members of Congress who probably should have retired
Speaker 1: before they did. Going to our palse Scooch's earlier point
Speaker 1: about maybe an age limit on serving, I don't know,
Speaker 1: what do you guys think? Do you guys think this
Speaker 1: was fully just a ploy in that deposition, like the
Speaker 1: way someone would like I mentioned in previous thing, the
Speaker 1: way someone will show up with glasses or maybe a
Speaker 1: neck brace during a court case. Do you think make
Speaker 1: it better?
Speaker 4: They won't release the medical records, right, that's a big
Speaker 4: part of it too, Like they're refusing and if I'm
Speaker 4: not mistaken, His campaign's response was that he picked it
Speaker 4: up in Africa or South America or Asia whilst doing
Speaker 4: humanitarian aid work, and he says something like the issue
Speaker 4: was resolved more than ten years ago and he is
Speaker 4: in robust physical and mental health. I don't know, can
Speaker 4: you come back from having a worm eat part of
Speaker 4: your brain? Feels like it would change you, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't feel like your brain it would grow back.
Speaker 4: I think it would be a market change in your
Speaker 4: personality depending on the severity of it. I don't know. Again,
Speaker 4: I'm no brain surgeon.
Speaker 1: But we do no brain surgeons, and several doctors who
Speaker 1: have treated parasitic infections have said that this can, to
Speaker 1: your point, permanently damage brain function, but you can also
Speaker 1: have temporary symptoms and mount to a quote Mountai full recovery.
Speaker 1: Same might apply to mercury poisoning too. I suppose, just
Speaker 1: amid us non brain surgeons here, I suppose it may
Speaker 1: be linked to the degree of the infection or the
Speaker 1: severity and length of time of exposure.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, he also got on a phone interview with
Speaker 1: The Times, and it was right around the time he
Speaker 1: is getting on the time he was getting on his
Speaker 1: first state ballot, so his campaign declined to answer any
Speaker 1: follow up questions regarding this. Obviously, we're not disparaging someone.
Speaker 1: If you have a real health condition, we see a
Speaker 1: medical professional. He's I just don't know. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: the US political system is so obviously rigged and the
Speaker 1: result of such a conspiracy at this point that a
Speaker 1: third party candidate already a collapse of the current regime
Speaker 1: is just a non starter. I mean, what do you
Speaker 1: guys think, do you think there there's a possibility of
Speaker 1: a real, viable third party candidate in a presidential election?
Speaker 3: Hell no, I was gonna say, I was gonna say,
Speaker 3: I hope.
Speaker 4: I would love to believe that, but it just I mean,
Speaker 4: you know what, Okay, Matt, to your point, almost logic
Speaker 4: would dictate that now more than ever, given the two
Speaker 4: choices we have are both pretty terrible.
Speaker 1: No, for real? Yeah right, so you're no, I'm just
Speaker 1: laughated down board than ever.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, and I'm fully torn on this guy.
Speaker 3: I was in a clubhouse room one time when he
Speaker 3: came in to talk a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: And he's a great speaker.
Speaker 3: He man, if he was up at a podium being president,
Speaker 3: I would listen genuinely because those Kennedy's presidential for sure,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I kind of forgot, like what is
Speaker 3: a president? Sound like, oh wait, that's it? Oh man, wow.
Speaker 3: But then you know, you listen to some of the
Speaker 3: content of what we're talking about, or what he's talking about,
Speaker 3: and you go, oh, dear, uh maybe okay, I don't know, man.
Speaker 4: Maybe.
Speaker 1: It's one of those It's one of those things about
Speaker 1: also just with full objectivity. It's one of those things
Speaker 1: we always have to envy about the stridently incorrect. It's
Speaker 1: just the confidence, like starting off with an if that
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy's great, and then they get yeah, and then
Speaker 1: they get to it then and you're like, I suppose so,
Speaker 1: I suppose that part's true as well.
Speaker 5: And then they get to that because so, and they
Speaker 5: add now as a result, and by the end of it,
Speaker 5: if you're not very careful, it's kind of like swimming
Speaker 5: out from the shore and not realizing how the current
Speaker 5: can drag you by water.
Speaker 4: If there aren't too many clicks or steps between those
Speaker 4: different things, you might get sucked in the undertow because
Speaker 4: you're like, oh yeah, sure, okay. And if you want
Speaker 4: to believe and you like the person, also easier. The
Speaker 4: cult of personality is a very real thing, and it
Speaker 4: can it's very attractive, especially you know, Matt, you got
Speaker 4: I haven't even thought about this. Why isn't there a
Speaker 4: viable third party really swooping in right now? Given what
Speaker 4: would feel to me like an opportunity.
Speaker 1: This system does not allow for it.
Speaker 4: I think I think that's what it is. It's set
Speaker 4: up to fail. It's not built for.
Speaker 3: It because money and guns exist.
Speaker 4: I'm just shoking. Oh, but no, you're not wrong, But
Speaker 4: I think it's case in points.
Speaker 3: Speaking of culture personality, I heard there's a pretty famous
Speaker 3: US representative from South Carolina that is really into RFK Junior. Ben,
Speaker 3: there's some some guy Francis Underwood. Is that his name?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I see, yeah, yeah, that's the that maybe the redeeming factor.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you brought that up, Matt. For people
Speaker 1: who are on the fence about Robert Kennedy Junior, if
Speaker 1: the if the slick politics don't convince you that maybe
Speaker 1: you need someone who's even more of a professional orator.
Speaker 1: Kevin Spacey, you know him. You may have loved Usual
Speaker 1: Suspects parts of the House of Cards. You know he's
Speaker 1: Ryan Singer directed Usual Suspects. Well, Kevin Spacey has endorsed
Speaker 1: his quote loyal friend, Robert F. Kennedy Junior in the
Speaker 1: upcoming presidential elections, So maybe that will be the path
Speaker 1: of the who asked.
Speaker 4: For this, Kevin Spacey, who was clamoring for ke What
Speaker 4: does Kevin think about this, y'all, because.
Speaker 1: He's clearly Kevin to get out of some situations.
Speaker 4: He's got a movie coming out that was slammed and
Speaker 4: it doesn't it didn't look very good.
Speaker 1: Oh there's another movie coming out, it's a documentary, and
Speaker 1: I don't think he's happy.
Speaker 4: I bet he's not. Oh no, he's that. That's another
Speaker 4: example of like exposing systematic bad behavior and you can't
Speaker 4: just bolster your way out of it, y'all. I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: I'm just you know, I don't know if this is
Speaker 4: what's happening with Drake, but it feels like it could.
Speaker 4: Feels like it could be a lid getting blown off
Speaker 4: kind of situation.
Speaker 1: Well, as a Canadian national, Aubrey does not have the
Speaker 1: possibility of becoming president of the United States. Very good point,
Speaker 1: R FK. Junior in theory does I would love to
Speaker 1: hear more about the viability of third party candidates. Please
Speaker 1: check out our earlier episodes regarding things like how candidates
Speaker 1: are chosen, how the party machines Democratic and Republican alike
Speaker 1: actually operate. Check out our cool YouTube videos about it.
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Speaker 4: I to tell my mom. Oh wait, it sucks. So
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