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Speaker 1: Hello, fellow conspiracy realists. Before we begin tonight's Strange News,

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Speaker 2: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 2: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 2: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 3: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 3: my name is Nol.

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Speaker 1: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 1: super producer Alexa's code name Doc Holiday Jazz. Most importantly,

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Speaker 1: you are you.

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Speaker 4: You are here.

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Speaker 1: That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 1: You know, as everybody is wondering, gosh, are the guys

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Speaker 1: going to get political today? Because we sure love it

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Speaker 1: when they do well.

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Speaker 5: The uh, the uh, we see. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Former President Donald Trump, just by way of a cold open,

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Speaker 1: had this trial about classified docs. It has been delayed indefinitely.

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Speaker 4: I was going to get through the porn star bribery

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Speaker 4: one first, right, you know, order of operations in all things.

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Speaker 1: A slaughterhouse cleaning company just got fined for knowingly using

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Speaker 1: child labor. Because apparently we're back in the early days

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Speaker 1: of the industrial Revolution. They're just for cleaning it, Ben,

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Speaker 1: just for cleaning it, Matt, They're they're fine. Was six

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand and forty nine hundred and forty nine thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: So I guess justice or just us. That is an

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Speaker 1: early hip hop shout out to very few people who

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Speaker 4: We got hip hop shout outs galore coming later on

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Speaker 4: the episode too.

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Speaker 1: Right today, we are diving into stories of brain worms.

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Speaker 1: We're going to end with a meditation on something that's

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Speaker 1: very important to a lot of us listening this evening.

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Speaker 1: We're going to learn about, as you said, Noel, some

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Speaker 1: hip hop updates. Does art imitate life? Does life imitate art?

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Speaker 4: If?

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Speaker 1: Sue to what degree? And before we do any of that,

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Speaker 1: this is our cold open. Stay tuned, folks.

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Speaker 3: Tornadoes and we've returned, and boy howdy are the winds

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Speaker 3: spinning around and giving us some interesting things to talk

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Speaker 3: about some terrifying things. In fact, I guess we can

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Speaker 3: start with just the fact that tornado season this year

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Speaker 3: more eastward than it normally would.

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Speaker 4: Do you think they align that with the rollout of

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Speaker 4: Twisters the movie coming soon to a theater near you.

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Speaker 1: Natural Disasters is viral marketing? I think so before we

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Speaker 1: could tell you, though, Matt, because we are an inter

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Speaker 1: we do have an international audience. We are a global show.

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Speaker 1: Is it true that tornadoes tend to occur most often

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Speaker 1: a misapprehension.

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Speaker 3: Well, tornadoes can't only occur in the United States, but

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Speaker 3: they happen most frequently here, and for a long time. Historically,

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Speaker 3: of the thing called Tornado Alley. It's actually a much

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Speaker 3: The plains are a really great place for these types

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Speaker 3: But the whole point here is that Tornado Alley is

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Speaker 3: we have to think about some meteorological stuff. Everybody winds,

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Speaker 4: Is it like a reverse tornado?

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Speaker 3: Is it antimatter?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Whatever it is, it's literally just a tornado that's spinning

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Speaker 3: So most tornadoes that happened within the United States turn

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Speaker 4: Wait, so, if a tornado is turning clockwise sucks things

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Speaker 3: Kind of Nope, no functions in the same way.

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Speaker 4: It's just very interesting turn it.

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Speaker 1: So for many of us listening along this evening, the

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Speaker 1: question would be, is it something related to hemispheres such

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Speaker 3: But that's not the only thing strange about it. Not

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Speaker 3: A stationary twister exactly, very very strange, very uncommon. It's

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Speaker 3: More weird things are happening with tornadoes. For example, the

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Speaker 4: I think that's right, yeah, Noah for sure. Do you

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Speaker 4: think they wrote it like they had the acronym because

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Speaker 1: Bob Ross happy accident.

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Speaker 1: I love that because if it was, if it were

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Speaker 3: Very nice, Oh guys, I didn't even mention. On that

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Speaker 3: There was a tornado that instead of moving from west

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Speaker 4: Matt, I do have to ask you know, I saw

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Speaker 4: a movie I went saw Civil War in the theaters

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Speaker 4: this new Twister reboot, Twisters in the spirit of alien

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Speaker 4: But is there any truth to this idea of like

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Speaker 4: storm chasers and people that like invent these weird things

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Speaker 4: I just I literally all I know about this world

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Speaker 4: run across anything like that in your research on the topic.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, if you go back to our Discovery days

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Speaker 3: and and just follow along with Discovery, they've got shows

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Speaker 3: about people who do that very thing, who who build

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Speaker 1: Got I got close to uh riding in one of

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Speaker 4: But I just it's not my wheelhouse, y'all. O, you

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Speaker 4: got no worries, man, do a search for something called

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Speaker 4: Tornado Intercept Vehicle one.

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Speaker 3: It is one of the most badass vehicles you'll ever see.

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Speaker 3: It's developed so that it's a you know, a vehicle

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Speaker 3: it's got I don't even know, I wasn't going to

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Speaker 1: Maximizing a lower center of gravity is part of it, right,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you want to have beat me here, doc,

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Speaker 1: You want to have a real on those things.

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Speaker 4: In a way, what are tornadoes if not kind of

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Speaker 4: weaponized gravity? Am I right? Hot take there? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, yes, I mean a lot of other forces

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm clearly an expert.

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Speaker 3: What is crazy?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: Storms in general, we don't think about them, maybe that

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there's something pretty dope about that.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's intense. It's intense, and it really makes you,

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Speaker 4: So all the April is typically a stormy month, right,

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Speaker 1: April is the cruelest month, said Selliot.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know it's fun. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: Well, shout out to hurricanes, right, Shout out to the

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Speaker 4: WHOA, but bro, what happens if an anti and a

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Speaker 3: As you can sell unsure one day we will find out.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, it does feel like a weird coincidence because Twisters,

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Speaker 3: the movie from Universal Slash Warner Brothers, is getting a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we happened to the death and destruction. Let's piggyback

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but there are rumors and all kinds of stuff

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Speaker 3: and if you hear about that, please let us know.

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Speaker 3: But if you do want to pay attention to the

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Speaker 3: recommend enough that National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration NWS site.

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Speaker 4: And we're back, as promised with the hip hop Beef

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Speaker 4: of the Century, y'all, man, I wish the century. I

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Speaker 4: don't know. Maybe I don't know. How's hip hop been

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Tupac it is.

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Speaker 1: It's approaching big levels.

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Speaker 4: I would thank you. Let's just get there, because I

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Speaker 1: For anybody who doesn't who is it read onto hip

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Speaker 1: hop or a fad Nolan sounds like you're talking about

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Speaker 1: two very specific people, Oh Absol.

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Speaker 4: Freaking lowly Kendrick Lamar and Drake a ka Aubrey Graham,

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Speaker 4: which I didn't know until I started following the story famously.

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Speaker 4: You know, a multi platinum, gajillionaire hip hop artist. I

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Speaker 4: I think of him a little more as a singer

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Speaker 4: if you read these things on paper, a lot of

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Speaker 1: Struck a chord and it's probably a mind or very clever.

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Speaker 4: So Kendrick Lamar, who I would definitely call a rapper.

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Speaker 4: uses different interesting musicians and production. I think to pimp

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Speaker 4: Butterfly is just like a fabulous record through and through.

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Speaker 4: Drake has some very catchy songs, but I would not

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Speaker 4: It has been for a lot longer than Kendrick has been,

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Speaker 1: Doc requires us to point out that Kendrick Lamar literally

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Speaker 4: He does have a bullet. No slouch, man, this guy.

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Speaker 4: You know, if you listen to Pimpa, Butterfly and then

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Speaker 4: It's incredibly stirring and moving and it makes me feel away.

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Speaker 4: Drake's you know, it makes me feel a way too,

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Speaker 4: but it's a little more. It's like, oh, this is cute,

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Speaker 4: this is fine. I like that hotline bling or whatever.

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Speaker 4: There have been these like beefs, these kind of snipey

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Speaker 4: If you look up on YouTube Kendrick versus Drake, there

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Speaker 4: somebody getting hurt in to your point, been in Tupac

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Speaker 4: no no style, whatever, you're a clowns. It's beyond that.

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Speaker 4: It's like Kendrick Lamar is openly accusing Drake aka or

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Speaker 4: Certified lover boys, certified pedophile And it's one of the

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Speaker 4: most repeatable parts of that song, which by the way,

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Speaker 4: called not like Us, if I'm not mistaken, And on

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Speaker 4: the cover art that he put out on Spotify and

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Speaker 4: all the streamers, it's an aerial shot of Drake's house

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Speaker 1: would not be the first time someone successfully punked Drake

435
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: a little bit. I would draw the president to the

436
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 1: earlier pusher t push a t album. Push came out

437
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: with Story Addon, and if it were not for the

438
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: intervention of a former guest on our show, Jay Prince,

439
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 1: Push would have continued with that beef. So it's like

440
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: it's a long time coming. I think. No. Also, the

441
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to derail us, but I know the timeline.

442
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 1: It's tricky. I think for a lot of people. Uh,

443
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: the first foray in this would be that that song

444
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: he did with Future metro boomen on that we don't

445
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: Trust your album. But even before then, Kendrick Lebar dropped

446
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: like a god Verse on a song called Control.

447
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 4: That's the one where he calls out as contemporaries including

448
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 4: j Cole, including I think Tyler the creator, including Walle

449
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 4: and there were maybe two or three others, but including Drake.

450
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,959
Speaker 4: And but here's the thing. The funny thing about that

451
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 4: is Drake is kind of famously sensitive, and all those

452
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 4: other guys that he dropped their names, they all took

453
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,239
Speaker 4: it and try It's like it's the game, you know,

454
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 4: you got to talk, a big game. You gotta talk,

455
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 4: you know, have this swagger and but but Drake is

456
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 4: his interviewer. He's like, man, I didn't think that was

457
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 4: cool thought that was gonna mean. I mean, I'm exaggerating

458
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 4: a little bit.

459
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 5: I don't know.

460
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 4: I sounded like a plunk, you know.

461
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, did we talk about how this all started?

462
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing, though it's not entirely clear, I know.

463
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 4: And then the most tell me what you think, because

464
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 4: it really is it's along the thing. The song we're

465
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 4: talking about was back in twenty eighteen or twenty sixteen,

466
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 4: I believe, right been the control.

467
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: They collaborated together, I think first in twenty eleven. But

468
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: but yeah, what's the what's the.

469
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Speaker 3: Wors I'm looking at the Forbes article that you posted

470
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 3: in our in our dock here and they go.

471
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 4: The most recent timeline. But the reason this is so

472
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 4: complex is there are little barbs and things trick you know,

473
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 4: kind of trickled, sprinkled throughout the history of these two

474
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 4: guys being in the public eye. After they had a

475
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 4: kind of a quiet falling out, and then it seemed

476
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 4: like for years Drake kept trying to like make nice

477
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 4: with Kendrick and then also do little things to kind

478
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 4: of piss him off. But Kendrick just seems to be

479
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 4: just righteously indignant, and it seems to know something and

480
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 4: was gonna be quiet about it, but then Drake couldn't

481
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 4: keep his mouth shut. But let's talk about the current timeline, Matt,

482
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 4: are you talking about the First Person Shooter?

483
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Drake and j Cole doing a collaboration called First

484
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 3: Person Shooter, And according to Forbes, j Cole just says, Hey,

485
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 3: the big three at some point in this song, I

486
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 3: guess are himself, Drake, and Kendrick Lamar. And that seems

487
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 3: like a positive thing to me, I guess, but I

488
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 3: don't know.

489
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: Kendrick responded when he beat me here, Doc, the big

490
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 1: three is just big me, which is very is very

491
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: hip hop.

492
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 4: It a million percent. But again, I you know, Kendrick

493
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 4: isn't above that. That's part of the game. It's part

494
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 4: of like, you know, the way you establish yourself as

495
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 4: being the best. If that's truly what you're interested in,

496
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 4: you know, that's that's part of it. He clearly is

497
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 4: interested in that. But he's also interested in political action.

498
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 4: And know again, I really think so much of Kendrick's

499
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 4: work is like poetry, you know, and hip hop, and

500
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 4: it's its best for him should feel like that, I

501
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 4: think in a lot of ways, but I do find

502
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 4: it interesting that that is Jake Cole was part of

503
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 4: this and that he participated in that. And then he

504
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 4: dropped a disc track but then like deleted it because

505
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 4: he was like, you know what, y'all can have this.

506
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 4: I'm out, this is too much for me.

507
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: I felt icky, basically is what he said. He said

508
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: it was goofy. And then later leaks would reveal because

509
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: people often act hard, but we have to understand a

510
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: lot of them are just kind of gossipy gusses. So

511
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: word came out of course that he got. He got

512
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 1: kind of the equivalent of a school shooter letter that says,

513
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: hey man, you were always nice to me. Don't go

514
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: to class tomorrow. And he pulled it out and he said, Jesus,

515
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: you know, I felt like it was goofy. So shout

516
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: out to j Cole. It appears he made the right choice.

517
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: He's a he's a adominal and see Kendrick is a

518
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: phenomenal mc drake is a quite successful hops and chainer,

519
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: you know, and j Cole, I like the picture of

520
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: he's somewhere with his family, you know, he's by a beach,

521
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: he's got his shoes off, he's listening to Lo fi

522
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: instrumental beats to study too.

523
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 4: You've got cucumbers on his eyes. You know, he's living

524
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 4: his best life.

525
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: Wait, Doc says he's literally at the beach. A picture

526
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: dropped on May eighth.

527
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 4: That's fantastic and you love to see that. And I

528
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 4: gotta say, there is part of me that's a little

529
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 4: disappointed in Kendrick to kind of get in the mud

530
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 4: like this. I always did sort of think of him

531
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 4: as sort of like being the bigger man or whatever.

532
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 4: But honestly, if what he's saying is true, and these

533
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 4: are allegations, obviously we don't want to get sued. We're

534
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 4: not saying we know anything, you know, unequivocally about Drake

535
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 4: being into little kids or whatever. But like he's dropping

536
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 4: these allegations. He's talking too, like that. One of his

537
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 4: responses was like directed at one of Drake's sons, like

538
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 4: talking directly to him about how your father is trash

539
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 4: and he is at war with himself. And it's like deconstructing,

540
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 4: like Hannibal Lecter, making the guy on the next cell

541
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 4: swallow his own tongue kind of stuff.

542
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: Talking to Drake's parents and a million So there's also

543
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: allegations like okay, without getting into into the discourse here,

544
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: because I know we're getting to the real life consequences

545
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: in a second right. The Drake response to these allegations.

546
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: The primary grievances on both sides are the allegations that

547
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar because why he assaulted his wife songs like

548
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: mister Morale or whatever. And then there's also the idea

549
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: that Kendrick Lamar, we've never met either of these individuals

550
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: they are The argument is that he is escalating the

551
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: long standing allegations that the pop star Drake may have

552
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: been grooming children sliding into DMS, as is the parlance

553
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: of our day, specifically, I think stranger things.

554
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 4: Millie, Bobby Brown, there's some unfortunate did not age well,

555
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 4: Hella it didn't look good that day. It's bad news

556
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 4: where he's I believe in Canada and has a girl

557
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 4: up on stage. This is in his early days, and

558
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 4: he's kind of, you know, being handsy and fondling her

559
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 4: as part of his act sort of, and then he

560
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 4: asks old. She says she's seventeen, and he sort of says, damn, like,

561
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 4: you look like that and you're seventeen. But then he

562
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 4: continues and apparently in Canada the age of consent is seventeen.

563
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 4: That's still freaking gross and weird. I think he was

564
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 4: like twenty three or something. And he's done a lot

565
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 4: of damage to himself. In one of his responses, he

566
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 4: kind of outs himself by dropping Millie Bobby Brown's name,

567
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 4: when Kendrick never did that, and just saying something to

568
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 4: the effect of, I couldn't be a pedophile. I'm too

569
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 4: famous for that, and if it was true, I'd already

570
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 4: be in jail. Well, we know that's not the case

571
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 4: from any number of situations where famous people have carried

572
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 4: on for a very long time doing very horrible things.

573
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 4: So he's either clueless or I don't know, just it

574
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 4: has no sense of how that reads. Is really tone

575
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 4: deaf or the.

576
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: Other conspiracy And this is something that was pretty common

577
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: in forms at the beginning. You know, a lot of

578
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: rap is just like wrestling, right, it's very k faith.

579
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 4: So you got to be a heel sometimes, you know, Right.

580
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: So is there any sand in your opinion nol to

581
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: the idea that this was orchestrated in order to bring

582
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: hip hop back to prevalence. On say, the billboard charts

583
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: are in the AA.

584
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 4: Well, that's an interesting point, ben in speaking of the

585
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 4: Billboard charts. You know, when I think of rap beefs

586
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 4: of this level, maybe this is sort of a modern

587
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 4: rap beef because it's with the age of streaming. This

588
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 4: stuff can be made available instantly. But these songs are charting,

589
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 4: you know, like in a big way. Kendrick songs specifically.

590
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 4: I don't think any of drinks are, but Kendricks are charting.

591
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 4: And I believe the one of them, the most recent one,

592
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 4: maybe it was Euphoria. He has four, but it got

593
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 4: let's see the most. It's the most streamed song by

594
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 4: an American hip hop artist in the history of Spotify.

595
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 4: It's got I think in a single day. I think

596
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 4: it did like seven million streams in a single day.

597
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: So that's a big deal. But lasting to your question,

598
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: and then we'll move on to some of the consequences

599
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 4: and then and then hit a break. But I was

600
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 4: thinking that too. A lot of you know, the folks

601
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 4: that are really following this. There were certainly allegations of

602
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 4: this was some sort of manufactured beef, but at this

603
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 4: point it's gotten so nasty and personal and like this

604
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 4: level of specificity and like, I don't know. I don't

605
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 4: think it is. I think this is very, very real.

606
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 4: And Kendrick Lamar, whether it's a righteous quest on his part,

607
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 4: is trying his damnedest to ruin Drake's life, and I

608
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 4: think he is largely succeeding because the Internet, by all accounts,

609
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 4: has ruled that Kendrick is the winner for the most part.

610
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 4: I think in his final disresponse, it almost feels like

611
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 4: Drake's waving a white flag a little bit. And there

612
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 4: was an attempt on his life at his home in Canada,

613
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 4: the aforementioned sprawling compound. One of his bodyguards was severely

614
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 4: injured in a drive by shooting, you know. And I

615
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 4: believe one of Drake's flagship stores He's got this like

616
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 4: brand Ovo, was spray painted with the words He's not

617
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 4: like us or not like us. And you know, that's

618
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 4: the thing is because Kendrick has always sort of come

619
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 4: off as like a an artist of the people, you know,

620
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: hence the Pulitzer. I guess he's speaking to speaking to

621
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 4: an experience that can is relatable in some ways. Drake,

622
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 4: on the other hand, has always been a little bit

623
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 4: more champagne poppy vibes and like look at my mayback

624
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 4: and all that stuff. So I think in calling it

625
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 4: not like us, he's calling him out, saying you're a phony,

626
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 4: you know, you're you're out of touch, you know, and

627
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 4: you're on the level of like compares him to Jeffrey

628
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 4: Epstein for Christ's sake. I mean, it's not good. Oh sorry,

629
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 4: and that that free I did. I already say that

630
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 4: phrase was spray painted. And I just feel like these

631
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 4: are the you know, unless Kendrick comes out and says,

632
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 4: don't do this, y'all. But it could be like the

633
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 4: badger's already out of the bag, right, I don't know, Ben,

634
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 4: where do you see this going? Do you see this as?

635
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 4: I mean, to me, it feels like it could end

636
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 4: in somebody getting hurt real bad.

637
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: But so I also think it is uh, it is

638
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 1: successfully distracting a lot of people from chaos abroad.

639
00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: Well sure, and Sean Combs, I really wish we knew, Uh,

640
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 3: who's that guy we always look to for advice?

641
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, joh rule Man.

642
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: I wish we knew what he had to say.

643
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 4: One person who we do know what he has to

644
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 4: say is I guess friend of the network Questlove Amir

645
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 4: Questlove Thompson, who has this to say on his Instagram.

646
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 4: Famously outspoken, absolute hip hop head, very very very smart,

647
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Speaker 4: very thoughtful guy, multiple published books, Oscar winning documentary filmmaker,

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Speaker 4: and incredible musician. He has this to say, Nobody won

649
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Speaker 4: the war. This wasn't about skill. This was a wrestling

650
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Speaker 4: match level mud slinging and takedown by any means necessary.

651
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Speaker 4: Women and children and actual facts be damned. Same audience

652
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Speaker 4: wanting blood will soon put up rip posts like they

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Speaker 4: weren't part of the problem. Hip hop is truly dead.

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Speaker 1: Oh rip post is nice little wordplay from Uncle quest post.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know, I think that we give Quest

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Speaker 4: the last word. That's a pretty excellent summation of all

657
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Speaker 4: of this. And again I'm almost a little disappointed in

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Speaker 4: Kendrick for going there. But if his goal is to

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Speaker 4: expose something that might be even more egregious and despicable

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Speaker 4: than we even know, then maybe that's the choice he

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Speaker 4: had to make, was to get in the mud. You know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe he's got a worm in his brain. Oh,

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Speaker 4: let's hear about that.

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Speaker 6: After a quick break and a word from our sponsor,

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Speaker 6: and we have returned, Doc, could I get a little

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Speaker 6: patriotic music.

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Speaker 1: Perfect, My fellow Americans, as you may or may not know,

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Speaker 1: there is an election upon us. There is always an

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Speaker 1: election upon us. Sometimes the choices don't look too great.

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Speaker 1: But what if you may be asking yourself, there was

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Speaker 1: something that appeared to be a different option from the

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Speaker 1: usual false dichotomy of Democrats and Republicans in strides Robert F.

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Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior. That's correct, folks, the child the scion of

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Speaker 1: the RFK of Old who was assassinated by Sir Hans Sirhan,

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Speaker 1: possibly with some intervening variables, one of Mitch, which may

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Speaker 1: have been de Tora. Check out our episode on drugs' weapons.

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Speaker 1: Also check out an interesting interview with Robert F. Kennedy

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Speaker 1: Junior quite recently when he said that he experienced memory

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Speaker 1: loss in brain fog and twenty ten, went to get

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Speaker 1: treatment and was told by doctors that a parasite eight

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Speaker 1: part of his brain, that worm a part of his

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Speaker 1: brain and then died. He's fine, he's still in politics.

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Speaker 1: He's got some controversial views. He's married to Cheryl Hines,

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Speaker 1: who plays Since we always want celebrities at the forefront

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Speaker 1: of real issues. He's he's married to Cheryl Hines, who

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Speaker 1: plays Larry David's ex wife in the amazing show Curb

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Speaker 1: Your Enthusiasm, Ben.

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Speaker 4: Does this not strike you as disqualifying type stuff? I mean,

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Speaker 4: I know we've put to bed the whole idea of

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Speaker 4: age limits and stuff, but a worm ate my brain

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Speaker 4: and part okay, and maybe I'm espousing some slightly wacky

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Speaker 4: ideas just seems a little oh boy, that's kind of scary. Well.

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Speaker 3: I think we can gain some insight when we know

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Speaker 3: the context around where those claims came from when he

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Speaker 3: made those claims and why.

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Speaker 4: I think because.

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Speaker 3: They were made during his divorce proceedings and it was

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Speaker 3: a big, messy, expensive divorce that he was going through.

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Speaker 3: And I would argue, and I can't prove this, you guys,

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Speaker 3: that he was attempting to show that his future ability

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Speaker 3: to make money. Like when you're going through divorce, it's

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Speaker 3: often like, well, how much money are you going to

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Speaker 3: make in the future versus how much money you made before?

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Speaker 3: And the way the couple lived together financially, right, I

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Speaker 3: think the brain thing, they're like, oh man, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to be good at any of this

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Speaker 3: stuff anymore because amate my brain was a ploy to

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Speaker 3: basically pay less money to his soon to.

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Speaker 1: Be xy, similar to the Alex Jones claims about how

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Speaker 1: eating chili just had some deleterious effects. Yeah, let's jeez. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Let's go to a New York Times and the Alex

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Speaker 1: Jones cop is actually not not too far off base

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Speaker 1: compared to how RFK Junior is seeing or portrayed in

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Speaker 1: mass media. Let's go to a New York Times article

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Speaker 1: that came from a while ago May eighth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: This is something that gets brought up a lot. The

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Speaker 1: journalist Suzanne Craig reviewed depositions from that twenty twelve divorce. Matt,

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Speaker 1: thank you for the context there and the title of

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Speaker 1: this New York Times review or the title of this

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Speaker 1: article is. RFK Junior says doctors found a dead worm

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Speaker 1: in his brain. Previously undisclosed health issues that just conveniently

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Speaker 1: disclose themselves when they are helpful. He said, he talked

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Speaker 1: with some of the countries top neurologists, and many of

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Speaker 1: those folks had either treated or spoken to his uncle,

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Speaker 1: Senator Edward Kennedy before that guy died of brain cancer.

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Speaker 1: So here's the issue is this. First off, he is alive,

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Speaker 1: he is in fine health. He is hail and hearty

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Speaker 1: at this point. But the story still brings some questions

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Speaker 1: to people. Now we know that we know that, for instance,

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Speaker 1: acidic worms can prey on any number of organisms or animals.

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Speaker 1: It's actually one thing that's kind of distressing pre hibernation.

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Speaker 1: You can see a lot of bears here in the

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Speaker 1: United States with tapeworms literally trailing out of their butts

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Speaker 1: like parachute cord. Oh yeah, yeah, because bears eat a

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Speaker 1: lot of raw approachure.

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Speaker 4: Ben, Is this one of those nematodes like in that

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Speaker 4: story that Matt brought about the woman that had like

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Speaker 4: the ten inch worm extracted out of her brain or

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Speaker 4: what kind of worm are we talking here?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this would be according to the guests as people

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Speaker 1: were making this would have been most likely what's called

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Speaker 1: a pork tapeworm larva. The doctors had not who were

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Speaker 1: speaking with The Times, had not treated mister Kennedy. They

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Speaker 1: were therefore speaking in general terms. One person that I

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Speaker 1: really enjoyed reading about in this specific New York Times

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Speaker 1: article doctor Clinton in White, who was a professor of

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Speaker 1: infectious diseases at the University of Texas Medical Branch in

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Speaker 1: Galveston and said, Hey, microscopic tapewormegs are sticky. They can

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Speaker 1: easily transfer from one person to another. Once they're hatched,

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Speaker 1: the larvae can travel throughout the bloodstream and end up

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Speaker 1: in quote all kinds of tissues. However, it is unlikely

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Speaker 1: that a parasite would eat a part of the brain.

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Speaker 1: Unlike tapeworm larvae and the intestines, those in the brain

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Speaker 1: stay pretty small, about a third of an inch, and

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Speaker 1: bad news for some folks. A third of an inch

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Speaker 1: is kind of small.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's food for thought. Ben bought for foods. Ben

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Speaker 4: was literally him saying that I had diminished earning power,

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Speaker 4: so I want to pay less child support. Now this

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Speaker 4: is coming back to bite him in the butt. Is

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Speaker 4: this going to have any real world impact on his

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Speaker 4: political aspirations.

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting question. Yeah, because around the same time

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Speaker 1: there was also the claim that he suffered from mercury

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Speaker 1: poisoning the souphold hat or disease. Yeah, it just eating

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Speaker 1: too much fish, according to the deposition. That's his Alexyally, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we know that mercury poisoning can lead to neurological disturbances

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Speaker 1: and issues with memory. There's a great summation of this,

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Speaker 1: by the way, in the Hill by the journalist Lawrence Fororza,

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Speaker 1: which also named checks the New York Times article. And

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Speaker 1: so this guy, as he said, Nolan, just can't get

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Speaker 1: a break in the deposition. He said, I have cognitive problems. Clearly,

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Speaker 1: I have short term memory loss. I have a longer

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Speaker 1: term memory loss. It affects me. And that's interesting because

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Speaker 1: we have to ask if this guy should be president, right,

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Speaker 1: if if he should be running a campaign. Now, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of you know, as we all know, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: the United States on paper is a meritocracy. In practice

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Speaker 1: it often ends up being dynastic. It ends up being

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Speaker 1: something very close to, unfortunately, an aristocracy, something that would

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Speaker 1: shame the founders of this country to realize. Even the ones,

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Speaker 1: well maybe not the ones wanted George Washington to be

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Speaker 1: the monarch, but they're all dead.

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Speaker 4: George Washington always had a bit of a kingly look too,

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Speaker 4: didn't they is.

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Speaker 1: Fortunate, to be honest, a little bit, right. That was

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Speaker 1: all propaganda. He was very tall for his age.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, clearly their intent was was evidence in the way

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Speaker 4: that he was you know, photographed and then wasn't he

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Speaker 4: also Kennedy one of the people that was calling for

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Speaker 4: Biden to prove that he wasn't like having cognitive decline,

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Speaker 4: like to take some sort of test or something. And

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Speaker 4: now this and respect doesn't make that look particularly fair

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Speaker 4: or you know, reasonable.

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Speaker 1: And to be fair, we have not met Robert Kennedy

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Speaker 1: Junior ourselves. He is as of the time in this recording,

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Speaker 1: he is seventy years old. I believe his birth his

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Speaker 1: next birthday will be in twenty twenty five. But he's

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Speaker 1: also been associated with things that would be considered controversial

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Speaker 1: in terms of like he's very anti vaccination for COVID

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Speaker 1: perhaps in general.

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Speaker 4: Proposed to have vaccination for brain worms.

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Speaker 1: Well he's against it. That guy eats pork brains and

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Speaker 1: eggs every morning. I'm kidding, but that is just so

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Speaker 1: you know, folks, if you're not from the US, that

806
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Speaker 1: is a thing people eat, especially in the Southeast right now.

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Speaker 4: My parents were into it. My Grandpapa would make it,

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Speaker 4: called it brains and eggs, and I had it a

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Speaker 4: couple of times and it ain't bad. It's good, yeah,

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Speaker 4: but it doesn't have what's it called prions. It can

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Speaker 4: have these parasites if it's not treated correctly. There you go.

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Speaker 1: And for people who believe that there are dangerous or

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Speaker 1: hidden her conspiratorial effects of COVID nineteen vaccination rollouts, he

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Speaker 1: is considered one of the leading sort of faces of

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Speaker 1: that argument. He's also linked. He's also one of the

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Speaker 1: people will link vaccines and existence on the autism spectrum.

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Speaker 1: He is also speaking of rap beef. This is like

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Speaker 1: old guy rap beef. He's taking shots at Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: Bill Gates, everybody's favorite Anthony Fauci, which is just such

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Speaker 1: a ridiculous name to say, and it rhymes with everything,

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Speaker 1: which is why I Founducauci. He shows up at a

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Speaker 1: lot of hip hop. But with this again we have

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Speaker 1: to ask two great points there are raised here which

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Speaker 1: are perhaps can tradictory. One the idea of motivation for

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Speaker 1: making these claims. We're not saying the guy is lying,

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Speaker 1: you know, and we do know that people do get

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Speaker 1: parasites in their brain. But I really appreciate the points

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Speaker 1: we've raised here too about what's it called ability to serve.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing that happens whenever you run for totus.

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Speaker 1: Mainly right though, I assume without verifying it, and I

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Speaker 1: assume without verified that a lot of members of Congress

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Speaker 1: are also required to, you know, have a physical We've

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Speaker 1: seen some members of Congress who probably should have retired

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Speaker 1: before they did. Going to our palse Scooch's earlier point

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Speaker 1: about maybe an age limit on serving, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: what do you guys think? Do you guys think this

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Speaker 1: was fully just a ploy in that deposition, like the

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Speaker 1: way someone would like I mentioned in previous thing, the

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Speaker 1: way someone will show up with glasses or maybe a

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Speaker 1: neck brace during a court case. Do you think make

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Speaker 1: it better?

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Speaker 4: They won't release the medical records, right, that's a big

843
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 4: part of it too, Like they're refusing and if I'm

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Speaker 4: not mistaken, His campaign's response was that he picked it

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Speaker 4: up in Africa or South America or Asia whilst doing

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Speaker 4: humanitarian aid work, and he says something like the issue

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Speaker 4: was resolved more than ten years ago and he is

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Speaker 4: in robust physical and mental health. I don't know, can

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Speaker 4: you come back from having a worm eat part of

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Speaker 4: your brain? Feels like it would change you, you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't feel like your brain it would grow back.

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Speaker 4: I think it would be a market change in your

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Speaker 4: personality depending on the severity of it. I don't know. Again,

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Speaker 4: I'm no brain surgeon.

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Speaker 1: But we do no brain surgeons, and several doctors who

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Speaker 1: have treated parasitic infections have said that this can, to

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Speaker 1: your point, permanently damage brain function, but you can also

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Speaker 1: have temporary symptoms and mount to a quote Mountai full recovery.

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Speaker 1: Same might apply to mercury poisoning too. I suppose, just

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Speaker 1: amid us non brain surgeons here, I suppose it may

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Speaker 1: be linked to the degree of the infection or the

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Speaker 1: severity and length of time of exposure.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: You know, he also got on a phone interview with

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Speaker 1: The Times, and it was right around the time he

866
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: is getting on the time he was getting on his

867
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 1: first state ballot, so his campaign declined to answer any

868
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: follow up questions regarding this. Obviously, we're not disparaging someone.

869
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: If you have a real health condition, we see a

870
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: medical professional. He's I just don't know. I mean, honestly,

871
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: the US political system is so obviously rigged and the

872
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: result of such a conspiracy at this point that a

873
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 1: third party candidate already a collapse of the current regime

874
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: is just a non starter. I mean, what do you

875
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: guys think, do you think there there's a possibility of

876
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: a real, viable third party candidate in a presidential election?

877
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Speaker 3: Hell no, I was gonna say, I was gonna say,

878
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: I hope.

879
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 4: I would love to believe that, but it just I mean,

880
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 4: you know what, Okay, Matt, to your point, almost logic

881
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 4: would dictate that now more than ever, given the two

882
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 4: choices we have are both pretty terrible.

883
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: No, for real? Yeah right, so you're no, I'm just

884
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: laughated down board than ever.

885
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, and I'm fully torn on this guy.

886
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 3: I was in a clubhouse room one time when he

887
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 3: came in to talk a couple of years ago.

888
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 1: And he's a great speaker.

889
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: He man, if he was up at a podium being president,

890
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 3: I would listen genuinely because those Kennedy's presidential for sure,

891
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I kind of forgot, like what is

892
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 3: a president? Sound like, oh wait, that's it? Oh man, wow.

893
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 3: But then you know, you listen to some of the

894
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: content of what we're talking about, or what he's talking about,

895
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 3: and you go, oh, dear, uh maybe okay, I don't know, man.

896
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 4: Maybe.

897
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: It's one of those It's one of those things about

898
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: also just with full objectivity. It's one of those things

899
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: we always have to envy about the stridently incorrect. It's

900
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: just the confidence, like starting off with an if that

901
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

902
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: this guy's great, and then they get yeah, and then

903
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: they get to it then and you're like, I suppose so,

904
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 1: I suppose that part's true as well.

905
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 5: And then they get to that because so, and they

906
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 5: add now as a result, and by the end of it,

907
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 5: if you're not very careful, it's kind of like swimming

908
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 5: out from the shore and not realizing how the current

909
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 5: can drag you by water.

910
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 4: If there aren't too many clicks or steps between those

911
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 4: different things, you might get sucked in the undertow because

912
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 4: you're like, oh yeah, sure, okay. And if you want

913
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 4: to believe and you like the person, also easier. The

914
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 4: cult of personality is a very real thing, and it

915
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 4: can it's very attractive, especially you know, Matt, you got

916
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 4: I haven't even thought about this. Why isn't there a

917
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 4: viable third party really swooping in right now? Given what

918
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 4: would feel to me like an opportunity.

919
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: This system does not allow for it.

920
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 4: I think I think that's what it is. It's set

921
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 4: up to fail. It's not built for.

922
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 3: It because money and guns exist.

923
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 4: I'm just shoking. Oh, but no, you're not wrong, But

924
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 4: I think it's case in points.

925
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 3: Speaking of culture personality, I heard there's a pretty famous

926
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: US representative from South Carolina that is really into RFK Junior. Ben,

927
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 3: there's some some guy Francis Underwood. Is that his name?

928
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: Oh?

929
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: I see, yeah, yeah, that's the that maybe the redeeming factor.

930
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you brought that up, Matt. For people

931
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: who are on the fence about Robert Kennedy Junior, if

932
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: the if the slick politics don't convince you that maybe

933
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: you need someone who's even more of a professional orator.

934
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: Kevin Spacey, you know him. You may have loved Usual

935
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: Suspects parts of the House of Cards. You know he's

936
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: Ryan Singer directed Usual Suspects. Well, Kevin Spacey has endorsed

937
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: his quote loyal friend, Robert F. Kennedy Junior in the

938
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: upcoming presidential elections, So maybe that will be the path

939
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: of the who asked.

940
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Speaker 4: For this, Kevin Spacey, who was clamoring for ke What

941
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 4: does Kevin think about this, y'all, because.

942
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: He's clearly Kevin to get out of some situations.

943
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 4: He's got a movie coming out that was slammed and

944
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 4: it doesn't it didn't look very good.

945
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: Oh there's another movie coming out, it's a documentary, and

946
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he's happy.

947
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 4: I bet he's not. Oh no, he's that. That's another

948
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 4: example of like exposing systematic bad behavior and you can't

949
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 4: just bolster your way out of it, y'all. I'm sorry,

950
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 4: I'm just you know, I don't know if this is

951
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 4: what's happening with Drake, but it feels like it could.

952
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 4: Feels like it could be a lid getting blown off

953
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 4: kind of situation.

954
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: Well, as a Canadian national, Aubrey does not have the

955
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,479
Speaker 1: possibility of becoming president of the United States. Very good point,

956
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: R FK. Junior in theory does I would love to

957
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 1: hear more about the viability of third party candidates. Please

958
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: check out our earlier episodes regarding things like how candidates

959
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 1: are chosen, how the party machines Democratic and Republican alike

960
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: actually operate. Check out our cool YouTube videos about it.

961
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Speaker 1: We didn't have time to get to another story, but

962
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Speaker 1: we're going to leave you with one message. Folks. We

963
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: know that as you're hearing this Mother's Day has just

964
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: occurred here in the US, and it can be a

965
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: lonely time for a lot of people. But we're glad

966
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: you're here and we've got your back. We want to

967
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: hear your thoughts. We have more strange news, we have

968
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 1: more messages for you, we have deep dives into some

969
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: strange and disturbing things, and we can't wait for you

970
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: to be part of the journey. Bind us online.

971
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Speaker 4: If she's around, give your mam a hug, give her

972
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 4: a call, just just let her know you care. And

973
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 4: if you haven't talked to her in a while, maybe

974
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 4: it's time. I don't know, just saying I'm not trying

975
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 4: to soapbox here. It's just I don't know, Ben about you,

976
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 4: but like I thought about, oh it's my Mother's Day.

977
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 4: I to tell my mom. Oh wait, it sucks. So

978
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 4: anyone that has the luxury of having a mom around

979
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 4: to say Happy Mother's Day, say or or send hers

980
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 4: some love.

981
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Speaker 1: Do something your mom would like if you can't talk

982
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: to her, do something you would have such a good.

983
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Speaker 4: Point, Ben, thank you, No, I appreciate you mentioning that

984
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 4: it was something that was on my mind. But yeah,

985
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,520
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986
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,760
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