WEBVTT - #359 Packers Unscripted: Seahawks and sacks 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:20.840 Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:24.520 I am Mike Spofford. He is West Hodkuits. We're coming 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:27.720 to you here from our studios at lambeau Field and West. 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.240 We're on a short week, a condensed week, so we're 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:33.120 going to uh condense a couple of shows into one here. 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:35.680 We're gonna move on today to talk about the Seattle Seahawks, 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:37.960 but I also want to get to a story that 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:41.080 uh you posted on our website with regards to the 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.680 packers sack total defensively for this year. Some really interesting 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:48.760 numbers there. But starting with the Seattle Seahawks, they are 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:52.080 four and five after a loss to the Los Angeles 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.160 Rams this last week, we know the Packers are four 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.960 four and one. These two teams both very very badly 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:01.400 need this victory. And when you start with the Seattle Seahawks, 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.600 for all the changes in personnel and everything that I've 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:05.600 gone on there over the last couple of years, it 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.360 still starts with Russell Wilson, it is. And and it's 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.280 interesting to me, Mike, because with the way things have 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.720 gone for the Seahawks, you've seen, you know, some things 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.160 that defense sort of a road here. Some guys got older, 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.880 some guys got a little bit more discontent. Whatever it is, 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:24.240 you know, it's it isn't the same unit that it 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:27.720 once was, but it's still a pretty darn good unit 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:29.360 the way they play, and they still have two of 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:33.880 the best linebackers in this league offensively though it was 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:37.080 Russell Wilson, it is Russell Wilson, and it will continue 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:41.880 to be Russell Wilson's team. In Russell Wilson's unit, Uh, 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.680 they've done a fairly decent job I think of trying 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:47.400 to renovate his offensive line. There are a lot of 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.480 issues there for a number of seasons. It's still not 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.400 the best old line in the league. But I think 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.840 they're giving him a pocket that he can work with. 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:59.160 As far as the passing game. Tyler Lockett, they made 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:02.240 a big investment to him in the off season and 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.480 it seems to be paying off for them to this point. 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:08.400 He's become their top playmaker and with a kind of 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:11.080 a carousel of running backs to this point in the season, 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.600 it's really Ben Wilson and Lockett show at this point. Yeah. 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.000 The thing I think that scares me the most, so 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.480 to speak about Russell Wilson is that he's just one 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.360 of these guys that you let him get outside the 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:28.160 pocket and start to scramble around. You can have everything 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:31.359 defended perfectly well, and he can still run for ten 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.040 or twelve or fifteen yards on you and just breaks 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:36.560 you back. Yeah, I was gonna say nine two yards 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:39.240 rushing last week. Now, Rashad Penny was the new running 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:42.360 back who stepped in because Chris Carson was injured. He 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.080 suddenly goes for a buck eight on just twelve carries 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:48.280 against the Rams, and then you add Russell Wilson's two yards. 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:51.480 That's suddenly two yards rushing from a backup running back 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.600 and you're starting quarterback, and they just about knocked off 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:56.560 the Rams out in l A. Yeah. I mean, if 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.160 you know anything about Penny's story, they drafted him, and 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.240 I think a lot of people all their expectation was 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.239 that he'd be there starting running back. They've gone through 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.200 a whirlwind here the past few years, in the aftermath 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.080 of Marshawn Lynch. It's been a lot. And then Penny 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.760 had this really strange narrative throughout training camp in the 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.600 offseason about where where his weight was at, was he 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:17.799 in the shape he needed to be, and it ends 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.360 up being Chris Carson who takes a job with Mike Davis, 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:25.280 the former San Francisco forty Niner being the backup. Well, 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.280 Penny gets his opportunity. I think when you look at 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:31.239 an athletics standpoint, it's not a surprise. It's just been 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.960 more about what it's taken to get him to this point. 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.000 Now we have to see how this week is gonna 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.520 work out. If Carson is gonna be back in the plans. 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.240 If he's not, does it end up being Mike Davis again, 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.440 is it Penny? Do they rotate all of them? A 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.920 lot of guys to keep in mind, but the fact 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:47.640 that they were able to put up a hundred yard 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.480 game after struggling as much as they have with the 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.120 run game and having that kind of work off of 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.840 Russell Wilson. When you go back and think about those 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.160 Super Bowl teams and the teams that really gave the 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.960 NFC problems for a number of years, it was built 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.560 off that one two punch of Wilson and Marshawn Lynch. 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.440 They're trying to find that. I don't wouldn't say that 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.240 they're there yet, but this was at least the promising 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.680 sign for them after last year being such a grind 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.840 going through Eddie Lacy and raw and Rawls and just 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:16.120 all the different guys that they were rotating at that 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.480 trying to find something that would work for them. When 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.200 you talk about what could be dangerous with a guy 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:24.400 like Penny stepping in like he is here we are 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.600 in the middle of November. This is a guy with 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.320 some fresh legs. He can be you know, he can 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:32.200 be tough to handle. We've seen obviously the Packers have 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.520 not overused Aaron Jones, and as we've talked about all 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:38.000 season long, we're going to continue to see Aaron jones 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.960 workload get ramped up because the Packers were a little 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.120 leery of his injury history from his rookie season. Now 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.520 we're getting into the stretch run here and and Jones 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.520 obviously showed what he can do. But when you have 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.359 a brand new guy like this, like Penny, who jumps 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.279 in in the middle in the middle of the season 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.840 and isn't as beat down as a normal starting running back, 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.760 this can be a tough situation. And for defense, he 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.800 could be tough to handle. Yeah, absolutely, Mike. I was 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:04.280 just trying to bring up right now some of these 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.360 stats of how this is playing out for them this season. 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.080 The thing that it really impresses me though, about Penny 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:12.200 coming out of San Diego State, Uh, it seemed like 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:13.840 he would be the type of back that would sort 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.080 of fit that their style. I mean, he's listed at 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.800 to twenty more of a power type back that has 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:23.320 some explosive tendencies to him. Uh. And I think it 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.520 was after a number of years of trying to use 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.719 late round picks and trying to find different pieces that 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:30.080 would fit, they tried to go out and not necessarily 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.400 get Marshawn Lynch, but find a guy that that fit 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:34.960 with that running style that they had so much success 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:37.960 with with with so many years. Uh. And and now 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:40.760 you know, you look at Doug Baldwin, what they have 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.320 and Lockett. There's still weapons that you have to be 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.919 concerned with downfield, but with the moves they made, you know, 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:52.359 moving forward without Jimmy Graham basically more towards a blocking 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.880 type system with what they're looking for from their tight 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.599 ends and the inside of that. Luke Wilson the other 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.720 type he moved on as well. Yeah, it just seems 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:02.599 to me that they're trying to get back to their 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:04.960 base a little bit more. I you know, again, I'm 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.520 not following the Seattle Seahawks every day, but as far 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.400 as the perception, it just comes off like that because 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:12.360 you know what Russell Wilson can do. You just talked 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:14.800 about it like he's versaal outside the pocket. He can 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:18.440 extend plays. Strangely, he is susceptible to sacks. Still he 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:20.560 can avoid them, but he still does. He still does 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:22.560 get sacked, well, he does. He does hold the ball 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.280 and try to and try to make plays. But when 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.839 he does get the ball off, he's incredibly accurate. He 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.919 doesn't he doesn't have that whistle of a throw necessarily, 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:33.400 but his touch and and and his accuracy, his his 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:36.720 ability to put balls in in tricky spots, maybe dropping 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:38.839 it in from up above like those kinds. He makes 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.960 different types of throws than a lot of other quarterbacks, 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.240 and he's very very accurate in doing so. And what 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.800 I'm very interested to see is just how he plays 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.279 and performs in this game the Packers. Yes, there's a 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.440 storied history there. You can go back to the fail Mary, 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.400 you can go back to the NFC Championship game in 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.520 two thousand, fourteen. But the Packers have won three straight 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:00.000 against Russell Wilson and five starts against them. He has 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:03.240 a ser rating seven touchdowns ten interceptions for a guy, 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.000 and I know one of those games he had like 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.520 five of them or whatever it was. But for a 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.320 guy that protects the ball as well as he does, 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.080 the Packers did have success against him, and I'm gonna 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.080 be very interested to see that next chapter play out 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:15.600 in this game if they can force the ball away 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.200 from him. Yeah, all right, Well, you had touched on 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.360 the Seahawks defense a moment ago, and I want to 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.320 get back to that in a second. But Packers fans 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.800 be sure to stop in at your local Quick Trip 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.520 and pick up your Packers cup today, get eighty nine 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:31.560 cent refills on your Cafe Caruba coffee all season long. 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:35.600 Seahawks Defense West, the Legion of Boom is no longer. 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:40.320 Richard Sherman is gone, Cam Chancellor is gone. Earl Thomas 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:46.200 Um no longer there as well. The crux of this defense, 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.000 from what I can tell, because it is still a 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.760 very good unit. You're not just gonna roll over these guys. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.840 But those two linebackers, Bobby Wagner, kJ wright those guys are. 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:56.880 Those guys really are kind of the heart and soul, 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.760 not only geographically because they line up in the middle 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:01.760 of the defense, but they really are the two guys 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:03.960 that kind of make this defense work. And it's funny 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.080 because now that I'm on this side of things, I'm 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.520 not really trying to work the phones as much anymore 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.760 than get like scout intel. But I remember my last 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:13.720 year at the Press because that I talked to one 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:17.520 scout for an NFL or an NFC team, and they 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.240 said to me, Bobby Weaker. The impressive thing about him 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.760 is he's the best linebacker in the league. And he's 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:24.880 been the best linebacker in the league, and it's very 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.640 difficult at that position. There's a there's a very select 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.400 few that can stay at the top of that position. 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:32.800 You see guys, and this is not to throw anybody 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:34.760 under the but you see the Navarro Bowman's of the world. 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.640 You see guys that really are They shine for a 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.720 season or two, but just can't keep up that level play. 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.360 What's impressive of Wagner's He's been doing this now for 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.480 seven eight years, and you're right, he is the face 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.200 of that defense. He is the identity of that defense. 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.720 And he's done it as as long, if not longer 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:54.480 than even Patrick Willison San Francisco. He's at He's at 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.800 that level in terms of in terms of the longevity 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.000 being at the top of the league. And what impress 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:01.839 says me too is word a day and age Mike, 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:05.239 where everybody just wants to change and you know, transition 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:11.360 safeties hybrid players into linebackers, and they're in to some extent. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.000 I guess they did do this because they did get 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.000 Shack Griffin in the draft and he's more of a 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:19.760 twinter player. But right in Wagner are just punch you 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:25.320 in the mouth. Linebackers, gritty three down, can play coverage 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.960 when they need to lineback their throwback types, no doubt. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:29.839 There's just a shortage of them right now in two 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:33.120 thousen with the way that this league structure. Yeah, upfront, 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.839 obviously Michael Bennett no longer they're on the defensive line. 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.400 The guy who's always intrigued me for them because he 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:41.959 seems to be a guy who's capable of always having 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:46.199 that big standout game if you're not careful is Frank Clark. 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.440 Frank Clark is an interesting one because he is a 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:50.880 little bit more of he could be. You could I 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.839 could see him as a three four outside linebacker. You 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.080 could see him as a hand in the dirt edge rusher. 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.560 But yeah, eight sacks at this point in the season, 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.160 he's sort of Ben the new breed, if you will, 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.559 with that legion of boom and with with that defense, 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.680 I mean ten secs two years ago. Over the last 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.760 three seasons, has become a starter in that scheme. And 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:12.880 I think it was the right time. I mean, they 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.360 had Cliff Avril and you look at Michael Bennett and 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:16.880 some of the things they did with their edge rush, 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:20.160 signing players elsewhere, bringing them in and you know, being 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:22.240 able to get strong performance out of them at out 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:26.319 of a modest rate. Yeah, they had Bruce Ivan and 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:27.800 by the way, and I always say this, I think 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:30.480 I bring this up every time John Snyder got killed 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:32.640 for that draft pick back in two thousand and twelve, 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.360 and I always like bruserv and I thought he fit 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.040 exactly what they were trying to do it. And he's 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.040 just a consistent guy. That's gonna get you seven eight 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.120 sacks unless you're in Oakland and you just want to 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.520 ship them out. But yeah, it was considered a reach 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.480 at the time because there were a lot off the 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.000 field concerns with Burvon that everybody was like, boy, you're 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.960 taking a big chance taking him as high as they did. Well, 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.199 you know, Schneider turned out to be to be right. 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:54.840 He did exactly what he needed to do there, and 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:56.160 for the most part, you know, I was able to 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.240 keep his nose clean. But now you've got Frank Clark. 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.000 Now you've got a new uh breed. Like I was 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.800 saying of defensive pass rusher there, it's a different face 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.480 in the trenches. But he's been a guy that's certainly 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:10.080 picked up that baton and and really really ran with it. Yeah. Well, 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:13.440 with with regards to this Seahawks defense, that one thing 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:15.600 I forgot to check before we turn on the cameras 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:19.040 here West there their turnover situation, because I know it's 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.520 a defense that over the years, when they were at 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.360 their best, they would take the ball away. Obviously the 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.440 legion of Boom, they would get interceptions, but they'd also 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.559 hit quarterbacks get the ball out, that kind of thing. 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:30.800 Where is this defense in terms of turnover? Well, this 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:32.600 is the tough part for them right now because Earl 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:36.320 Thomas is still their leading uh intercepting defensive back. He 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.280 has three picks. They have ten as a team right now. Uh. 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.200 Sequiel Griffin is I think a really solid player. Two 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:43.719 picks for him on the year. I think he's the 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.360 guy that sort of jumps off the page. To me, 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:47.400 I'd be lying to you if I told you I 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:50.600 knew much about their safety situation. Now, yeah, I'm not 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.440 too familiar with it, but it is they've made a 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.280 transition in the set in the back end as well. Uh, 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:56.959 and it is going to be interesting to see how 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.240 they do. But to this point, yeah, ten picks on 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.000 the year and three of those blong Darryl Thomas. And 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:04.439 how are they using the two Griffin brothers you mentioned 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:08.040 obviously they drafted uh, um the I guess you call 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.600 them the one armed Griffin. But yeah, Shack Griffin and 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:16.160 then and then his his older brother um Is is 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.319 on that defense as well. How are they using those? Well, 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.679 Sequel is the starting boundary cornerback for them. I mean, 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:22.440 he he is a guy in the two years that 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.439 he's been there has been you know, the dude that 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.800 they're they're developing. Uh, Sack Griffin has been a little 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:30.960 bit different this year because there were some rumblings come 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:32.679 out of training camp that Okay, maybe this guy is 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.440 gonna start. And he's mostly been on special teams to 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.480 this point. I think he's played in eight games. I 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:38.960 can look up. I can actually bring the stats up 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:40.559 in front of me. It was like eight or nine games, 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.720 has like eight tackles on the year, eight tackles started 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.000 one contest for them, but for the most part has 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.840 been on special teams. Um, so yeah, they're both definitely 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:50.559 in the fold. It's gonna be interesting too. I don't 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.400 know how much it's gonna come up as a storyline, 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.200 but Marc Uisvelda Scantling has a history with the two brothers. 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.880 Ran on a relay with them in high school, so 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.000 you have that storyline as well. And it would be 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.000 kind of cool too if you see Sequil actually line 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:05.640 up against MBS as well, Shaquil Shakim. How does one 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.200 guy get the nickname Shack and not the other one? Well, 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.240 for me, it was because until basically the NFL scouting combine, 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.360 I didn't know how to pronounce the chem. I didn't 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.120 know if it's sequam. I wasn't sure right, So yeah, 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.120 it was shack and then everyone sort of called him that, 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:19.920 So I was like, oh, this is cool. 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Okay, I promised we were going 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:58.320 to talk about the Packers defense and the sack numbers 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.760 right now. Six sacks last Sunday against the Miami Dolphins 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.680 give the Packers thirty one on the season. That is 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:08.920 tied for the league lead. But maybe the most interesting 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.880 thing about the Packers being tied with a couple other 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.480 teams for the league lead in sacks right now is 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.920 the Packers don't have any one individual with more than five. 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.600 This is really interesting how this is playing out with 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.680 Mike Petton's defense in terms of the sacks being spread 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.320 out amongst so many players. And you looked up some 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.280 of those numbers. Yeah, Now I don't have a SPA 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:31.000 Stats and Info department like you do, so I was, 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.680 you know, doing all these things crunching on myself. Uh. 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:35.640 The three things, there were three things that stood out 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.040 there were very interesting to me. One the fact that 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.200 they do have fifteen individual players who have had a 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.200 sack this season. Going back too when that became an 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.040 official statistic, the Packers have never had a defense have 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.640 more than fifteen players have at least a half sacked 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.440 in a non strike year. They actually did it eight seven, 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.800 but it was sixteen different guys and you had replacement 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.440 player that was the replacement players for a few games 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:59.040 and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, so there's that 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.720 aspect of it. The fact that they also are tied 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.280 with I believe it's Kansas City, Minnesota, and I want 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.280 to say is that Pitts Pittsburgh. Off the top of 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.280 my head, all three of those teams have have at 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.560 least one pass rusher that has I think seven or 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.760 eight sacks on the year. The Packers top right now 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.240 is Kenny Clark and Kyler Facker with five. Lastly, and 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:21.120 I think the most interesting is to a certain extent, 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.600 you could expect this if you go back to how 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:27.440 Mike Petton ran his defense during his time with the Jets. 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:31.920 He tit him across the board approach. You know, Mohammed 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:35.320 Wilkerson didn't become a ten sack player until after Petton 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.520 had left. But also what's very interesting, they never had 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.760 more than forty sacks in a season with the Jets 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:44.520 ten top or four top ten defenses and four years, 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.400 but the sacks always ranged from thirty one to forty. 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.920 The Packers around pace for fifty five. Now, if you 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:53.000 go to Petton season in Buffalo, they actually had fifty 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.120 seven that year. So it's not like he'd be setting 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:56.760 a personal best or anything. You know, that was where 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.560 Jerry Hughes really broke out and things of that nature. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:01.880 But the fact that the Packers are getting this kind 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:05.560 of production, trust me. In The defensive players talked about this, 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:07.120 Mike Petton has talked about it. They want to be 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:10.560 more consistent in their pressure, but they've been able to 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:12.680 get home. And I think when you look at they're 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:16.120 only six sacks right now off of last year. You know, 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.560 with seven games left to play, I think to some 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.840 extent you are seeing that Mike Petton effect in this defense. Yeah, 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.720 and I think we're certainly seeing the not only the 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:29.000 depth in terms of the defense, but the creativity. Because 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.840 if you had said at the beginning of the season, Okay, 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.840 after nine games, the Packers are going to be tied 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.520 for the league lead in sacks and Clay Matthews and 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.080 Nick Perry will have combined for four out of thirty 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.240 plus sex, I would have said, you know, you're crazy. 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.360 But this is a different type of system. It's a 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.800 different type of scheme. And not only is pett And 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.400 bringing guys from different angles. You know, you mug up 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:52.520 six or seven guys and then maybe only four of 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.880 them come, or maybe five of them come. That's sort 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:58.160 of what his system has done. But also because the 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.400 Packers have had to tap into their depth, We've seen 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:04.000 Antonio Morrison have to step in for Blake Martinez and 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:05.920 then he gets the call as the guy who comes 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.160 and he gets a sack in New England. For example, 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.800 we saw last week Raven Green has to step in 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.560 when kentro o'bryce leaves with an injury, and then on 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:15.479 a big third down, he gets the call to go 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.280 after the quarterback and he gets a sack of Osweiler. 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.360 So that's partly how this is getting so spread out 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:23.399 is because the Packers have had to call on so 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:27.639 many different guys because of injuries and shuffling personnel. But 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:31.159 yet when every guy is getting that call and getting 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.760 that opportunity, he's doing his best to cash in on it. 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.359 What really stands out to me the most about pet 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.439 and scheme is You're right, there's guys stepping up, and 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.639 that's why it's so diversified on where the sacks are 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.199 coming from. But positionally it's also a part of that. 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.920 I mean, yes, the linebackers are leading them once again, 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:48.840 but a part of that is the fact that if 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:50.439 you go back to his time with the Jets too, 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:52.959 I mean, you know you had David Harrison Bart Scott, 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.520 he would bless those guys, you know, he would send 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:57.359 them and he's showed a lot of those double a 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.640 gap pressure looks in this defense as well. It's what's 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.560 led to Martinez having four sacks. As you mentioned, Antonio 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:06.679 Morrison stepping in there as well getting one. But you 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.600 have guys like uh, you know that these defensive backs 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:11.400 from the inside that are also being able to get 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:14.920 after the quarterback. They're getting pressure with their defensive lineman 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:19.560 Dean Lawry getting on the board last week. Previous Adams 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:22.199 got his first career sacked last week, So that I 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:26.160 think is a really interesting, you know, aspect of this defense. Also, 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.160 what really stands out to me the most of anything 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:30.640 is the fact that you had Kenny Clark dropping into 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.600 coverage at one point in that game. Last week, you 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:37.240 had an eight man rush with three defensive backs all 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:40.159