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Speaker 1: He is Martin, Martin White, Martin who Martin?

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Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving? Happy Thanksgiving? Much like the Lions and the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's start with obviously, the first game of

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Speaker 1: You lost your two coordinators, right, Ben Johnson and them

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Speaker 1: That's the problem with where I see the Lions now.

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Speaker 6: No, to me, the Lions have taken a step I

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Speaker 6: I think the whole team will get better. I think

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Speaker 2: Doubt about it. Well, they should have.

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Speaker 2: So now you could this season could wind up being.

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Speaker 1: just tuning in. What happened to the Kansas City? What

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Speaker 6: I mean Kansas City not able to scored fourteen fourth

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Speaker 6: Fourth quarter, obviously, but Dak Press got it through an

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Speaker 2: No doubt. Where are you on?

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Speaker 1: We know how things work in sports, Okay, because it's

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Speaker 6: To have a shot to make the playoffs, I don't

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Speaker 6: keep teams together, so on and so forth.

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Speaker 2: And guess what you got right now?

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Speaker 6: The leading rusher on the Kansas City Chiefs is the

444
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Speaker 6: same person who is the leading rusher on the Kansas

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Speaker 6: City Chiefs when Patrick Mahomes signed that contract.

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Speaker 2: The leading tight end receiver.

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Speaker 6: On the Kansas City Chiefs is the same one that

448
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Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes signed that contract. You look at Tom Brady

449
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Speaker 6: right that the guy that Pat they compare Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 6: to in terms of career.

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Speaker 2: Rid Tyreek Kill's not there anymore, No.

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Speaker 6: But the tight end, the tight end leading receiver to

453
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Speaker 6: Travis Kelce. He was the receiver when Mahomes signed his extension.

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Speaker 6: He was their number one target. He's still their number

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Speaker 6: one target. Like they've not filled in. They absorbed losing

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Speaker 6: tyreek Hill for a few years, but they never replaced

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Speaker 6: him in terms of being the guy over the top

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Speaker 6: that they had. My point is this, they did not

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Speaker 6: nearly improve around Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: Year after year after year after year.

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Speaker 6: And if you look at the corollary they Brady got

462
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Speaker 6: out to the hot start to start his career.

463
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Speaker 2: Mahomes got out to the hot start to start his career.

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Speaker 6: Brady had a period in the middle where he was

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Speaker 6: not winning at the same clip, in part because the

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Speaker 6: players around him were golder, lost to.

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Speaker 1: Step people forget about that nine year gap, a nine

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Speaker 1: year gap between when.

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Speaker 6: They had to reload the skill players and Kansas City

470
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Speaker 6: has not done that successfully. Whether you wanted to be injury, suspension,

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Speaker 6: whatever excuse you want to make for the reason why

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Speaker 6: it hasn't happened, it hasn't happened.

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Speaker 2: No, it hasn't. Is Patrick Mahomes the same guy.

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Speaker 1: I know he had four touchdowns today, you know, or

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Speaker 1: he had four touchdowns two hundred and sixty one yards.

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Speaker 2: You know, he played fine, He did what he had

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Speaker 2: to do.

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Speaker 1: They just can't couldn't stop the Cowboys who have a

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Speaker 1: juggernaut of an offense.

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Speaker 2: Every time they needed to get a first.

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Speaker 1: Down, they got it. And that's how they that's how

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Speaker 1: you secure these games. But when you win a lot,

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Speaker 1: Pete fans, you know, start to pull against you. This

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Speaker 1: is I'm not surprised of the Kansas City. After a while,

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Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, can somebody else win. We're ready to

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Speaker 1: see somebody else get in there. And I'm not surprised

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Speaker 1: coming into the season. What was your take on Kansas City?

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Speaker 1: And where were you as far as just you know,

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Speaker 1: the feeling of the team, you know, winning the division again,

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Speaker 1: they've owned the division, right.

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Speaker 6: I picked the Broncos to win the West. Actually, all

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Speaker 6: thought all three of the perennial AFC powers were all

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Speaker 6: going to struggle this year just off of the this

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Speaker 6: very nonsense, even the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: So you you pick, you picked them not to win

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Speaker 2: the division.

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Speaker 6: Your partner, I think buff up between Buffalo and Baltimore,

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Speaker 6: one of them is missing the playoffs, and I think

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Speaker 6: all three of these teams are wildcards. And he looked

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Speaker 6: at me like I was crazy. Well that leading winning

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Speaker 6: leading the division now, I mean, but I said this

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Speaker 6: before you asked me what I take. It was before

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Speaker 6: kickoff of the regular season. That was my opinion, and

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Speaker 6: they're leading it now. But again, you know, we'll see

505
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Speaker 6: it all how it all shapes out. But it's not

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Speaker 6: not scientific. But they just played more football.

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Speaker 2: Than everybody else.

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Speaker 1: Kansas City has been what the seven straight AFC championship games.

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Speaker 1: You add all that in, that's that's like a whole

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Speaker 1: other football season that these guys have played. But I

511
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Speaker 1: just have not been impressed with the down, the the

512
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Speaker 1: year to year roster improvement that I think you have

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Speaker 1: to have. Kansas City's left tackle has been an issue forever.

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Speaker 1: That get the address with Josh Simmons.

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Speaker 6: Josson missed some time for personal issues and not sure

516
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Speaker 6: what that's about, but he picked up three penalties this today. Right,

517
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Speaker 6: there's just been an issue. The issues that Kansas City

518
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Speaker 6: has had has been those issues consistently. And I think

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Speaker 6: the only shortcoming that I really am giving Patrick Mahomes

520
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Speaker 6: here is he's having an inability to overcome the things

521
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Speaker 6: that he overcame when he was younger. But to me,

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Speaker 6: you should have improved these things around him at this

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Speaker 6: point in time. You've got the answer at quarterback, you

524
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Speaker 6: got to figure it out everywhere else.

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Speaker 1: How stunning though, will let's be that they don't make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Will will you look at it as stunning

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Speaker 1: or not, like you figured that they wouldn't win a division,

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Speaker 1: But I think you figured they'd make the playoffs, Like well.

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Speaker 6: But that's the thing if you when you're playing the

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Speaker 6: game of That's why so many teams, that's why it's

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Speaker 6: such a big deal that the Packers trade for Michael

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Speaker 6: Parsons and the Lions lose their center Frank rag Now

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Speaker 6: in the same offseason.

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Speaker 2: Right. I know, I'm not trying to get two in

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Speaker 2: the weeds of it.

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Speaker 6: But you don't win the division you start to play,

537
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Speaker 6: you're playing, you're playing with fire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could make.

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Speaker 6: It at ten and seven, but every single year we

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Speaker 6: see a team with double digit wins who missed not

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Speaker 6: make the player. You gotta set up to win the

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Speaker 6: division every single year. That's why to me, like, if

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Speaker 6: you start playing with wild card, slaying them in, that's

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Speaker 6: all because it could be a soft division like the Jaguars.

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Speaker 6: Between the Jaguars and the Texans, one of them may

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Speaker 6: be a wildcard. The AFC South is not exactly the

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Speaker 6: AFC West. Yeah, no, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, we want to

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Speaker 1: hear from you. Eight seven seven nine to nine six

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Speaker 1: sixty three sixty nine. Where are you on the chief

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Speaker 1: rooting against them? Rooting for them? You still think they

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Speaker 1: have a chance to make it? How disappointing are you

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Speaker 1: in their season? Just six and six? Which when was

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Speaker 1: the last time they lost six games? Can I say it?

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Speaker 1: Since Moby Dick was a guppy? I mean, seriously, at

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Speaker 1: least in the Patrick Mahomes he.

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Speaker 2: Or six losses.

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Speaker 6: I'm being honest, off the top of my head, I

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Speaker 6: don't think Patrick Mahomes ever lost sixteen.

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Speaker 1: No, I agree. I we're not even looking at it.

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Speaker 1: Six losses. They were fifteen and two last year and

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Speaker 1: now they're struggling, struggling, struggling big time.

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Speaker 2: Are you happy? Sad? Struggling? There you go, Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Joe Broadway, Joe.

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Speaker 1: All right, it is the couple Rob Parker Martin weiss

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Speaker 1: in for Kelvin Washington on this Thanksgiving night.

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Speaker 6: Thank you six games one time. So what year was that?

568
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Speaker 6: Two thousand, twenty twenty three? So they were what were they?

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Speaker 6: They finished ten and six that season in the regular season,

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Speaker 6: So there it is, went to the AFT champions won

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Speaker 6: the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Well, then year they won ten and six. Crazy, I'm unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like six losses and they still

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Speaker 1: got uh.

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Speaker 2: Five to go right? Point five to go to the

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Speaker 2: point they finished ten and six.

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Speaker 6: Today is Thanksgiving and they have six losses, right, no doubt?

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Speaker 1: All right, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, Join

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Speaker 1: us if you want to. It is the odd couple.

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Speaker 1: Rob Parker Martin Weiss right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget it's a TV theme song Thursday and Tyser's

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Speaker 1: Tower of Trivia is coming up in the final hour

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Speaker 1: to program. So we got a lot to get to,

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Speaker 1: but we want to hear from you on the Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chefs, I mean Chiefs, Where are you stick and stay?

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Speaker 2: Is the man not Jordan Esk anymore?

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Speaker 7: In the usume be sure to catch live editions of

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Speaker 7: The Odd Couple with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays

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Speaker 7: at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports

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Speaker 7: Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: Our number three here on the Odd Couple number three,

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Speaker 1: Rob Parker, Rob Parker, Martin Weiss min wise here on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, and with the new iHeartRadio app, you

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Speaker 1: I should say, just search Fox Sports Radio in the

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Speaker 1: app and stream us live all day every day, and

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Speaker 1: be sure to select Fox Sports Radio as one of

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Speaker 1: your presets like the old days, so that iHeart app

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Speaker 1: So that it pops up at the top of your screen.

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Speaker 1: You want to do that, don't forget in about twenty

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Speaker 1: eight minutes, Ty Shirts Tower of Trivia. You want to

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Speaker 1: be here for that? Alans you ready?

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Speaker 2: That's right? The TV for Daddy.

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Speaker 1: That's the TV theme song. Thursday edition, Thanksgiving Edition.

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Speaker 2: Rob Parker. Why is it?

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Speaker 3: I can just imagine you after your Hall of Fame induction, right,

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Speaker 3: You're at this beautiful place. You're going out to Magic

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Speaker 3: City with some friends. You see a group of girls

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Speaker 3: and you just say, make room for Dad.

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Speaker 2: I can see it. That might be.

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Speaker 1: That might be the verbiage in that moment. That just

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Speaker 1: might be. Let's update the score. Seventy three, Baltimore is winning,

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati has the.

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Speaker 2: Ball on a Is that a third down play?

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Speaker 6: But Cincinnati is It is third play by play, but

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Speaker 6: I didn't give it twenty seconds left, Cincinnati fall start.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we'll do that, But I do want to say

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Speaker 1: I'm thankful for everybody and Thanksgiving. Thanks for everybody for

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Speaker 1: being here and being a.

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Speaker 2: Part of the radio show.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I know we even make a big

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Speaker 1: deal about working on the holidays, and people take off.

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Speaker 2: People have a right to do whatever they want to do,

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Speaker 2: and I respect that, and I'll take off.

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Speaker 1: You know, next week I'm gonna go to Detroit and

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Speaker 1: New York and see family. I just you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean this to me is is okay to keep

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Speaker 1: the show rolling. I don't like to like totally abandon

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Speaker 1: our listeners and people.

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Speaker 2: We can the quiet part out loud.

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Speaker 6: Rob, they're not playing thanks to Baseball on Thanksgiving. If

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Speaker 6: there were Thanksgiving Baseball, I wouldn't be here, He'll say,

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Speaker 6: And you stand a better shot at not being here.

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Speaker 2: So I'll let America in on a little secret. But

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Speaker 2: Rob Parker does.

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Speaker 6: He works every holiday, so that way, when it comes

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Speaker 6: to be I don't know, July thirteenth and he wants

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Speaker 6: to watch the Cubs and the Brewers playing in Wrigley Field,

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Speaker 6: he can go. And Scott Sapiro can't say bump because

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Speaker 6: he worked.

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Speaker 2: He's got all of.

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Speaker 6: These comp days because he didn't work, because he worked

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Speaker 6: on Thanksgiving, worked on Christmas, worked on you name it,

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Speaker 6: New Year's Eve, New Year's Day, you Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 2: St. Patrick's Day, you name it.

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Speaker 6: Rob Parker will find a way to work as long

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Speaker 6: as there's not nine innings being played, nearby.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair. I'm not even gonna dispute that.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather take the time off in the summer and

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Speaker 1: go to the ballpark and hang out with friends and

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Speaker 1: all that. But I am looking forward to next week.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to the Lions Cowboys game, which would be interesting.

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Speaker 1: Where are you on that game? Mark, I'm just curious.

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Speaker 1: That's a big game in Detroit. The Cowboys offense is fantastic.

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Speaker 1: They look they are fantastic.

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Speaker 6: I really like the Cowboys coming into the season. Actually,

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Speaker 6: even after making the Michael Parsons trade, do I think now, obviously,

662
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Speaker 6: you add Michael Parsons to your team or taking him

663
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Speaker 6: away from him, He's gonna make it better or worse,

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Speaker 6: depending on what you do.

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Speaker 2: But the idea that the Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: Were just like gonna go away, all right, I'm just

667
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Speaker 6: I wasn't there for this was a team that in

668
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Speaker 6: the last four years of three years, in the last

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Speaker 6: three years prior to the year before, he has won

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Speaker 6: thirty six games twelve.

671
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Speaker 2: And five three Like, this is a double digit win team,

672
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Speaker 2: went healthy.

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Speaker 6: So I expected with that could be healthy for them

674
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Speaker 6: to be around that double digit win team. They really

675
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 6: blew it in Denver and in Green Bay, because this

676
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Speaker 6: game should be for them to be really competing for

677
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Speaker 6: the top of the NFC East. I think that this

678
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Speaker 6: But this game in terms of to the point to

679
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Speaker 6: your point earlier about how this is a big loss

680
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Speaker 6: for the Lions, this is a game the Lions Cowboys.

681
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Speaker 6: I don't know what the Lion is ahead of time.

682
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Speaker 6: I think these are two pretty evenly matched teams. Would

683
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Speaker 6: not shock me to see either one of these teams,

684
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Speaker 6: you know, come out with a touchdown win Like I

685
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Speaker 6: wouldn't either both these teams line up good. But now, Lions,

686
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 6: this is the loss that can knock you out of

687
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Speaker 6: the playoffs. Where Dallas is looking up like they weren't

688
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Speaker 6: expected to make the playoffs. They're they're in the wild

689
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Speaker 6: card hunt. They'll stay in the hunt. Winner lose, Lions,

690
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 6: you're in the hunt winner lose too. But it's it's

691
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Speaker 6: a lot uglier than it would be if you had

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Speaker 6: won today.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be like we thought today was a big

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Speaker 1: game against the Package because they had lost the first Oh,

695
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Speaker 1: this is the season.

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Speaker 2: This is like the.

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Speaker 1: Season will be on the line. I'll be in Detroit

698
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Speaker 1: for that one, so I'm looking forward make sure you

699
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Speaker 1: finish the job.

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Speaker 2: You already know people gonna be like, what are you

701
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 2: doing here? You bad luck rock.

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Speaker 1: Right now, whenever I go to Detroit people are nice

703
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: to me, So I'm not even gonna play that I've

704
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: worked there for twenty years. And for people don't know,

705
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: Martin and I worked together in Detroit and came to

706
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Speaker 1: LA which Martin, we can't believe December first for me,

707
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: I know you came like two weeks later or something.

708
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: When did you get something like that?

709
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: But we're starting. This will be my tenth year. And

710
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: look at so much that has happened since you came

711
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles. You got a master's degree from USC

712
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: you got married. I mean, I can't get over what

713
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: like the nine years. Think about all these life changing

714
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: things that have happened.

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Speaker 2: You got a.

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Speaker 1: National radio show on the weekend. Matter of fact, you

717
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: should plug that. And what time you're listening to it?

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00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 6: It's to me and Martin, if you listen to Fox

719
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Speaker 6: Sports Radio on Saturday, you can't miss your boy because

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Speaker 6: I'm here.

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Speaker 2: I'm here not only doing I'm here up.

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Speaker 1: But what time is your show on it? I'm here

723
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Speaker 1: it's five to eight. When when you says.

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Speaker 6: Five to eight Pacific, now eight to eleven Eastern. Whatever, Yeah,

725
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 6: five to eight, eight to eleven. Me and Manzi Blanos,

726
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 6: the two two way players here at Fox Sports Radio.

727
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 6: They put us together on a show. All right, there

728
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 6: you go.

729
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: Every Saturday, eleven to what is it, eight to eleven

730
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Speaker 1: christ eight to eleven Eastern.

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Speaker 2: All right, this is the best ad ever been done.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to give you some props, okay for

734
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Speaker 1: the show. But let's go here with the Ravens, and

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Speaker 1: I know, I mean Martin. They started one to five.

736
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Speaker 1: They were giving up forty points. If you remember, they

737
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Speaker 1: gave up a game in which they scored forty points

738
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Speaker 1: in Buffalo to start the season.

739
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Speaker 2: It's forty to twenty four. And then Josh Allen put

740
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Speaker 2: the k born exactly and it was a horrific loss.

741
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: They gave up.

742
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: The Texans couldn't score touchdowns to save their lives. The

743
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: Texans scored forty, the Lions scored thirty eight. Everybody was

744
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: beating the Ravens like a drum. And now we look up,

745
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: we're at Thanksgiving and they lead the division, the AFC North.

746
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: They lead the division, right, and they beat the Bengals

747
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: here tonight in Baltimore. All of a sudden, they're seven

748
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: and five and have a great I just think.

749
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Speaker 2: There's something to be said about this.

750
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Speaker 1: The last few years, Marten, they've won a lot of

751
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: games regular season, unbelievable there, thirteen wins.

752
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: Whatever it is.

753
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: This might be their path where the pressure's off because

754
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 1: of what where the season started, and they could build

755
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 1: and go forward without the pressure of being the number

756
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: one seed and is Lamar finally gonna get there and

757
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: people counting them out. They're not on the radar like that.

758
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: People know that they're still good, but that start to

759
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: the season kind of put them on the back burner.

760
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Speaker 2: Where are you on the Ravens.

761
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, they put them on the back burner, But the

762
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 6: problem is that the holes too big, Like I don't

763
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Speaker 6: see the Ravens and I go to that they're right

764
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Speaker 6: there with the Steelers, and I know that six and

765
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Speaker 6: five and six and five real looking to those records

766
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Speaker 6: and they're both the same. This Ravens team to me

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00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 6: is not as they're not to me markedly better than

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Speaker 6: the Steelers. When I look at him, I think when

769
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Speaker 6: you look at Lamar Jackson's obviously incredible. He has not

770
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Speaker 6: been the same type of player that he has been

771
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Speaker 6: in years past. The lower body injuries are really impacting

772
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Speaker 6: his ability to move. I just think the Ravens dug

773
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 6: themselves too far of a whole to make themselves real

774
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 6: contenders this year. And it's a shame because the rest

775
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 6: of the AFC looks like it's gettable. But that one

776
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 6: in five start needs to be a two and three

777
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 6: start or three and two start for me to really

778
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Speaker 6: believe in this team.

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Speaker 1: See, I think that it doesn't matter how you start,

780
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Speaker 1: it's how you finish. And I think that they have

781
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Speaker 1: an opportunity because we know what the talent is.

782
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Speaker 2: I'm sticking with my pick.

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Speaker 1: My original pick before the season was the Green Bay

784
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Speaker 1: Packers and the Baltimore Ravens. I do believe when you

785
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Speaker 1: look at the AFC, that they can come out of

786
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Speaker 1: the AFC, especially if we got we're gonna knock the

787
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Speaker 1: Chiefs out right, And now I don't know, Buffalo is

788
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: not nearly as good. I don't think this year, and

789
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Speaker 1: we're looking at what Denver, you're looking at who else

790
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Speaker 1: in the AFC.

791
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Speaker 2: The Chargers sure they.

792
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Speaker 1: Can't beat those two teams, like like I'm just saying,

793
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Speaker 1: like off the rip, if Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs

794
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Speaker 1: are out of the way, and maybe Buffalo, you know,

795
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Speaker 1: Buffalo is not gonna win the division, right and they're

796
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Speaker 1: gonna be on Newland, it.

797
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Speaker 2: Should close it.

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Speaker 6: It will likely be New England. But my issue is

799
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Speaker 6: just saying, I just the Chiefs. I mean, the Ravens

800
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Speaker 6: had to make the playoffs, like that's the thing that

801
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 6: they're gonna win.

802
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Speaker 2: They could win the division, is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Like when they started one and five, now this is

804
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Speaker 1: not They called that they've just got to beat the

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Speaker 1: Steelers out.

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Speaker 6: But I don't they still but they still played the

807
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Speaker 6: Steelers twice to hell, they have to win today.

808
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Speaker 2: They like these like they are neck and neck with

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Speaker 2: the Steelers, is my point to me. And this do

810
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Speaker 2: you think's gonna win a division between those two? Are you?

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Speaker 2: I had picked Pittsburgh to start again.

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Speaker 6: I was down on all three of the the I'm sorry, Ravens, Bills,

813
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Speaker 6: and Chiefs to start the season. So I had picked

814
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Speaker 6: Pittsburgh already at like ten and seven. I just didn't

815
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Speaker 6: expect either one of these teams to run away with

816
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Speaker 6: anything because I thought Pittsburgh had gotten a little bit better,

817
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Speaker 6: but all their additions are so old that it's hard

818
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Speaker 6: to manage. But the thing that's tricky for Baltimore right now,

819
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Speaker 6: the thing that's tough for Baltimore is the bottom of

820
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Speaker 6: the AFC North doesn't look like it did the first

821
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Speaker 6: for the first six weeks of the year. Low Joe

822
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Speaker 6: Burrow's back in Cincinnati. I don't expect that team to

823
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Speaker 6: be a team that now goes on a run. But

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Speaker 6: as we see right now, started the second quarter or

825
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Speaker 6: five minutes in the second quarter, it's a one point game.

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Speaker 6: Then those division matchups, anything can happen. That's what I

827
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Speaker 6: think expect. Do you expect the Bengals to win in

828
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Speaker 6: Baltimore to night?

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 6: I expect to win this game going into it before

831
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Speaker 6: we took the end.

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Speaker 2: Don't think they're weird talking about the Ravens are a

833
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Speaker 2: weird team.

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Speaker 1: They get off to really slow starts and then before

835
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Speaker 1: you know what, they score two or three touchdown.

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Speaker 2: I hear you.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't been that impressive, so I get it, but

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Speaker 1: I still think I still like the Ravens. I want

839
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: to hear what you think. Martin is out on the Ravens.

840
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: I'm in on the Ravens. I think they have a path.

841
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: This might be the year they finally could get to

842
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: the super Bowl because the pressure's off somewhat, but the

843
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: expectations have been way lowered with the one in five start.

844
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Speaker 2: Where are you on the Ravens? You in on the

845
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 2: Ravens or out on the Ravens?

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Speaker 1: Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven, seven,

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Speaker 1: nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. It is the

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Speaker 1: odd couple on your Thanksgiving night here on Fox Sports

849
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Speaker 1: raiding Rob Barker, Mart Weiss in for Kelvin Washington, and

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Speaker 1: you know what you need to do, stick and stay

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Speaker 1: because

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Speaker 2: You need to make room for Daddy into USAV