1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff production of I Heart Radio. Hi 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: brain Stuff. I'm more in Vogelbaum and this is a 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: classic episode from our podcast archives. Nutrition is a very 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: individual personal issue because none of our bodies work exactly 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: the same way. But researchers can look at data like 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: what we purchase from grocery stores and restaurants and make 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: some generalizations, and one of them is that we should 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: all be keeping an eye on our salt in tape. 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: But why is this? And how much salt is too much? 10 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: Hi brain Stuff, Lauren vogel Bomb. Here, salt, the word 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: itself makes our salivary gland standard attention and our taste 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: buds burst to life. But what's in a word in 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: salts case, it's sodium and six chloride. Common table salt, 14 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: also known as halite, from the only family of rocks 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: commonly eaten by humans, etymologically derived from Salice, the Roman 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,319 Speaker 1: goddess of health and well being. Salt by any other 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: name would be just as irresistibly delicious. We spoke with 18 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: Sharon H. Burg Quist, m d. Assisted Professor of Medicine 19 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: at Emery University School of Medicine. They said, we are 20 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: hardwired to crave salt and ancestral times, the availability of 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: this essential mineral was scarce. To motivate us to seek salt, 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: our bodies became designed to get reward and pleasure from it. 23 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,639 Speaker 1: From piking pizzas and pasta sauces, suliferous soups, pungent meats 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: and fizzy sodas, to popcorn, chips and nuts. We love 25 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: our salty naushes and beverages. The bad news is that 26 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: these snacky processed foods, which make up the bulk of 27 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: the average American diet, are packed with excess salt, and 28 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: it's shaking up our health. As burg Quist explained, the 29 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: sodium its salt, causes most of the damage in our organs. 30 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: When faced with excess salt, our kidneys try to excrete 31 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: as much as possible. Some sodium, however, accumulates the body 32 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: holds onto water to dilute the sodium. This increases the 33 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: volume of blood and pressure on blood vessels. The resulting 34 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: high blood pressure can damage many organs, including the heart, kidneys, 35 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: and brain. Sodium is a vital electrolyte. Electrolytes are not 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: what plants crave, but rather minerals dissolved in the body's 37 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: fluids to help balance our cells and regulate bodily functions 38 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: like hydration signals to and from the brain, blood pressure, 39 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: and the proper functioning of our nerves and muscles, especially 40 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: our most important and hardest working muscle, the heart. Too 41 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: much sodium can lead to hypertension or high blood pressure. 42 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: Not enough sodium can lead to hypoon atrema, which can 43 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: result in shock. Asked which is more of a health 44 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: risk a diet too low or too high end sodium, 45 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: burg Quist replied, While a few studies have raised concern 46 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: that a very low sodium diet may be harmful in 47 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: certain sick groups of people, the bigger problem is that 48 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: we are consuming too much salt. The current average consumption 49 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: of thirty milligrams a day roughly one point five teaspoons, 50 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: raises blood pressure, which can increase the risk of heart 51 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: attacks and stroke. So just how much salt is necessary 52 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: to survive? Is there a minimum and a maximum amount? 53 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: Burg Quist said, We can't live without salt. We need 54 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: a minimum amount for our nerves and muscles to function 55 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: and to maintain our fluid balance. There isn't a clear minimum, 56 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: but it's likely around two hundred milligrams, which is many 57 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: fold below the average daily intake. The CDC suggests consuming 58 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: no more than milligrams of sodium per day, and the 59 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: American Heart Association recommends an ideal limit of no more 60 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: than fifteen hundred milligrams per day. Burg Quist said, of 61 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: the salt we eat comes from processed food, so reducing 62 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: or avoiding processed and fast food is a good place 63 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: to start for lowering sodium intake. And given these numbers, 64 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: people with hypertension will be heartened to know that it 65 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: is possible to lower blood pressure by consuming less salt. 66 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: To that end, burg Quist reveals that results from the 67 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: dietary Approaches to Stop Hypertension, or DASH trials, were foundational 68 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: in linking lower sodium intake with lower blood pressure. The 69 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: first part of the DASH trial found that a diet 70 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: and the sizing fruits, vegetables, low fat dairy foods, and 71 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: limited red meat, saturated fats and sweets called the DASH 72 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: diet lowered blood pressure compared to the standard American diet. 73 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: The second trial looked at three levels of sodium intake. High, medium, 74 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: are low in people who follow the DASH diet or 75 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 1: these standard American diet. It concluded that the less sodium 76 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: a person consumes, the lower their blood pressure. The recommendation 77 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: is that we eat more whole foods like fruits, vegetables, beans, lentils, nuts, 78 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: and seeds. Burg Quists said, not only are they naturally 79 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: low and sodium, but they're high and potassium, which opposes 80 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: the effect of sodium by relaxing blood vessels and lowering 81 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: blood pressure. As for runners and others who work up 82 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: a healthy sweat exercising, burg Quist recommends Electrolyte, Laddin, sports 83 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: drinks and foods instead of salt pills. It'll take a 84 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: lot of self discipline and likely a period of moody 85 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: withdrawal before we're able to give that briny siren sodium 86 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: the final shake. But for the sake of our health, 87 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: we owe it to ourselves to try just take it 88 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: one stack at a time. Today's episode is based on 89 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: the article Salt Breaking Up is Hard to Do on 90 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: how stuff Works dot com, written by Carrie te Trow. 91 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: Brain Stuff is a production off I Heart Radio in 92 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: partnership with how stuff works dot Com, and it is 93 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: produced by Tyler Plain. 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