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Speaker 1: This research indicates that gen Z and millennials plan to

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Speaker 1: holiday about six point eight weeks beforehand. Well, six point

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Speaker 2: Know, you're going to be giving the equivalent of congressional

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Speaker 1: Have any of you heard of a person who who

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Speaker 3: Well, we do like to dress up in New Orleans,

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Speaker 1: That is so much more like relevant though than like Halloween.

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Speaker 2: They just had a product launch, they needed a product launch.

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Speaker 2: They came up with this and then backed into the thing,

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Speaker 1: Some yeah, yeah, alright, Well I'm glad.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Miles, we've like I've almost lost miles to this

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Speaker 2: You guys, Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three

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Speaker 2: forty one, Episode two of Daly's I Guys production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: This is a podcast where we take a deep dab

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Speaker 2: into America share consciousness. And it is Tuesday, June fourth,

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Speaker 1: And you know we had a savant on our hands.

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Speaker 2: Well I didn't even pronounce math correctly. That's what a

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Speaker 1: What did you call it?

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Speaker 2: I caught a back of the envelope map.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well guess what June fourth, it's National

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow is gonna be National gap Day with those two

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Speaker 2: food ones. Yeah, apparently in nineteen forty eight, Marion Richards

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Speaker 3: We're amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay it is well for you, got your holidays,

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Speaker 1: enjoy where appropriate going.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, my name is Jack O'Brien aka lift

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Speaker 2: nodes more like lymph Yes, uh, that is courtesy the

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Speaker 2: Andrew bubb in reference to the fact that I was

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Speaker 2: admiring Miles's plumped up Yeah, exactly, fighting infection. Those things

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Speaker 2: were popping, fighting, fighting a cold. I'm thrilled to be

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Speaker 2: joined as always by my co host, mister Miles Grast.

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Speaker 2: Miles Gray.

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Speaker 1: Guess what these lyph nodes are popping? Aka? I have

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Speaker 1: What they were saying, Jack needs to be in the background,

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Speaker 2: Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our

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Speaker 2: which is produced by New Orleans and Batmanos Public Radio.

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Speaker 2: Please welcome to the show, Carlisle Calhoun and Hallie Parker.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, it's nice to have people who are

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Speaker 1: doing really good investigative podcasting, unlike us who are subjecting

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Speaker 2: How is New Orleans right now? This time? Here? Steamy

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Speaker 2: Right, All right, Well, we're going to get to know

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Speaker 4: You know, weirdly, even though I'm advocating for adult pitty pools,

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Speaker 4: I've always wondered how easy it would be to do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is that the best tour to take? Because I

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Speaker 6: know what, I'm going to go to Preservation Hall because

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm with you there, I'm with you, Carl.

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Speaker 1: No, these scrambled eggs are fourteen dollars.

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Speaker 3: let's go out and like drink while we're eating, Like

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Speaker 3: I'm down with that, just like you know, you.

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Speaker 1: have a Moon's over my Hammi at Denny's.

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Speaker 2: And then it's still expensive. We put a unch in

443
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Speaker 2: there instead of eckfast, So yeah, you gotta pay us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, sorry brunch people.

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Speaker 2: No, but it is true. It is that that. It's

446
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Speaker 2: that psychological.

447
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Speaker 1: It's that transitional space where you wake up and you're like,

448
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Speaker 1: I need eat breakfast, and then you're like, but I

449
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Speaker 1: also have to go to an overpriced brunch in like

450
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Speaker 1: two hours or something. So what do What am I

451
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Speaker 1: to do? Because I'm not gonna yeah, yeah, well you

452
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Speaker 1: know what to do? Yeah, I guess I'll just guess

453
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Speaker 1: I'll just nibble on one piece of plane toast, no butter,

454
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Speaker 1: eating my eating the heel of the loaf.

455
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Speaker 2: Just yet, all right, well, we're going to take a

456
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Speaker 2: quick break and then we're going to come back and

457
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Speaker 2: we are going to talk about sea change.

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Speaker 8: We will be right back and we are back. We

459
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Speaker 8: are back, and we are back.

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Speaker 1: We are and we're back.

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Speaker 2: Hallie, Carlisle, Carlisle or Carly, what do you prefer?

462
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Speaker 3: Well on on sea change? I'm Carlisle, but my friends

463
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Speaker 3: call me Carly, So please car Carly's great.

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Speaker 1: Are we are? We are we familiar? Oh?

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Speaker 3: We we're on Carly terms all right.

466
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Speaker 4: Carly.

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Speaker 2: Familias. I like that you broke it and like New

468
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Speaker 2: Orleans prenology amazing. So your show is based out in

469
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Speaker 2: New Orleans, and I've heard you as mentioned that like

470
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Speaker 2: living on a coast, and particularly the coast of Louisiana

471
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Speaker 2: is kind of the front lines of global heating. And

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Speaker 2: so I just wanted to he guys talk about kind

473
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Speaker 2: of what you see there that we might not be

474
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Speaker 2: seeing elsewhere right now, but might be a preview of

475
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Speaker 2: like where we're headed.

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Speaker 4: Oh, such a great question. I mean, when I was

477
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Speaker 4: thinking about this, what really stuck out in my mind.

478
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Speaker 4: I was here twenty twenty one Hurricane Ida came through,

479
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Speaker 4: and that was a storm that strengthened really fast, rapidly

480
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Speaker 4: intensified as we say, and then after it blew through,

481
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Speaker 4: it wasn't really like a rainstorm. It was more of

482
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Speaker 4: like a windstorm. It caused kind of damage, especially closer

483
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Speaker 4: to the coast.

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Speaker 1: People.

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Speaker 4: I think we're out and out of power near the

486
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Speaker 4: coast for over three months for some people that were

487
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Speaker 4: really far down there. Yeah, it was crazy. But then

488
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Speaker 4: not only that we got by a hurricane, but then

489
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Speaker 4: immediately after that hurricane goes through, we then get hit

490
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Speaker 4: by a giant heat wave, and so people don't have power.

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Speaker 4: It's I didn't have power for a week, and I

492
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Speaker 4: couldn't sleep because there was just this extreme heat going on.

493
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Speaker 4: And so for me, that's like the picture of what

494
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Speaker 4: climate change means and what we're facing. It's one hazard

495
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Speaker 4: after the other, you know, having to deal with all

496
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Speaker 4: of these different problems all at once.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean that's just to just to keep

498
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Speaker 3: like the cheerfulness of what's coming for us all going

499
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Speaker 3: that the other thing.

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Speaker 4: Is a worst case scenario.

501
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Speaker 3: Yet, I mean, seas are rising across the South and

502
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Speaker 3: across the Gulf faster than almost anywhere else in the world.

503
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Speaker 3: So already, so many people are having to move from

504
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Speaker 3: from where their families are, from where they live in

505
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Speaker 3: South Louisiana, and like across the southeast coast, you're starting

506
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Speaker 3: to see that too, with like more sunny day flooding

507
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Speaker 3: and just like the seas are rising, and it means

508
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Speaker 3: houses on the outer banks in North Carolina are falling

509
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Speaker 3: into the ocean, and it means that people have who

510
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Speaker 3: have lived for generations in Southern Louisiana are having to

511
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Speaker 3: think or already having to move. And it's pretty intense.

512
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Speaker 3: And that is like that is around the world. Seas

513
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Speaker 3: are rising, So it is definitely something that's going to

514
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Speaker 3: change like what our coastlines look like and where people

515
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Speaker 3: can live, I think, pretty like faster than we're planning for.

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Speaker 2: For sure, right yeah, right, It's one of those things

517
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Speaker 2: that is already happening. But we it feels like the

518
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Speaker 2: mainstream kind of consciousness, like that's kind of what we

519
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Speaker 2: chart on our show, And it feels like people have

520
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Speaker 2: a fairly easy time blocking out when it's happening to

521
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Speaker 2: other people as long as it's not happening to them

522
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Speaker 2: or possibly like to their neighbor, than.

523
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Speaker 1: They're such a shame. What's happening there. Yeah, like that's

524
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Speaker 1: sort of the level of Earth. And yeah, I mean,

525
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Speaker 1: I'm really I mean I think about just the what

526
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Speaker 1: the NOAA was saying about this season's hurricane season and

527
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Speaker 1: how they're like, this could be one of the worst

528
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Speaker 1: ones we've seen in a long time in terms of

529
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Speaker 1: like the some like potentially twenty eight named storm systems

530
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Speaker 1: in this season and that's a huge uptick. And the

531
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Speaker 1: other part that was really to your point about these

532
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Speaker 1: sort of like compounding natural disaster events, is like FEMA

533
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Speaker 1: and other disaster relief agencies can only handle so much

534
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Speaker 1: that if you have like storm after storm and then

535
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Speaker 1: God forbid another thing over in this part, supply chains

536
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Speaker 1: get strained, and we truly are looking at a thing

537
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Speaker 1: where like they'll be like, there's there's literally so much

538
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Speaker 1: going on, we can actually not really do anything right now.

539
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Speaker 1: We're spread so thin. And I think that's another real

540
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Speaker 1: dimension of like sort of like the bureaucratic part of

541
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Speaker 1: it too, that you I think people always presume they're like, no,

542
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: they're there, they'll be okay, they'll be ready for this,

543
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: where even for the experts who deal with this or

544
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Speaker 1: saying this, like we're trying to figure out how we

545
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Speaker 1: can even like simulate how we wrap our heads around

546
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Speaker 1: multiple storms hitting multiple places with you know, the kinds

547
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Speaker 1: of devastation that require our assistance. And yeah, it is

548
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Speaker 1: definitely we are going to begin really seeing it in

549
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Speaker 1: a way that we're going to be even harder to deny.

550
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think people who live in these areas

551
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Speaker 1: already see it, but yeah, we're definitely the messages are

552
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Speaker 1: there that we need to do something about it, which

553
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Speaker 1: is why liquid natural gas kind of comes into it.

554
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Speaker 1: And the whole impetus for this is to talk about

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Speaker 1: the expansion of liquid natural gas or I guess we

556
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Speaker 1: shouldn't even that's like eupham, that's like a euphemistic term.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's natural. So I feel like we're good here,

558
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Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, natural right. I do like worked on me,

559
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Speaker 2: like when they first were like, well, guys, we're like

560
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Speaker 2: moving over to natural gas, and oh that shit is natural.

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Speaker 3: That's nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we see it on our buses and like

563
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Y're like, oh, all, like either it's CNG

564
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Speaker 1: or LNG and you're like, don't worry, this is this

565
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Speaker 1: is cleaner now because it's operating that and you have

566
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Speaker 1: these like subtle messages around you that reinforce the sort

567
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Speaker 1: of like non threatening nature of this of natural gas.

568
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Speaker 1: But yeah, what what is it? What should we be

569
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Speaker 1: first of all, what should we be calling it so

570
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Speaker 1: we can use the right terminology when we sort of

571
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Speaker 1: think about when we get all these stories hitting us,

572
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Speaker 1: like what should we be calling like liquid natural gas

573
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Speaker 1: if you want to honor what it actually is.

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Speaker 3: It's something Hallie and I talked about a lot as

575
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Speaker 3: we were writing this series, because everybody knows it is

576
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Speaker 3: natural gas. So like us all of a sudden just

577
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Speaker 3: using another term, people be like, what are you talking about?

578
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Speaker 3: I'm already first of all, you're already trying to tell

579
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Speaker 3: me about liquified natural gas. Now you're now you're talking

580
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Speaker 3: about some other term I've never heard about, right, So,

581
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Speaker 3: I mean, we did call it natural gas in our

582
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Speaker 3: in our series because that's what we all know it as.

583
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Speaker 3: But I mean a lot of experts are saying we

584
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Speaker 3: should be calling it methane gas or fracked gas because

585
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Speaker 3: we get it from fracking, which explains yeah, yeah.

586
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Speaker 2: Fraggy juice.

587
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Speaker 3: But it's mostly it's mostly methane. Natural gas is mostly

588
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Speaker 3: made up of methane, which is like, in the short term,

589
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: way worse for our climate than carbon dioxide. So we've

590
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Speaker 3: all been like talking about, you know, carbon emissions in

591
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Speaker 3: this kind of thing, which is like really a serious issue,

592
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Speaker 3: we should be concerned about that, But methane in the

593
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Speaker 3: short term, it's like I had a scientist described it

594
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Speaker 3: to me as like carbon dioxide is like wrapping the

595
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Speaker 3: world in a blanket. Methane is like wrapping the world

596
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Speaker 3: in eighty blankets. Like it's eighty times more potent at

597
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Speaker 3: heating up our climate in the near term.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

599
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Speaker 3: So when at least it's bad.

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Speaker 2: You know, I thought it was good, like eighty percent,

601
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Speaker 2: Like if you had told me, guys, it's only eighty

602
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Speaker 2: percent is bad, I would have been like, damn, like

603
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: they lied to us. But eighty times worse is yeah,

604
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Speaker 2: so wild that I can't believe it.

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Speaker 1: What are sort of the benefits that have Like when

606
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Speaker 1: you see a municipality be like we're going to change

607
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Speaker 1: our entire bus suite to LNG or whatever, what what

608
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Speaker 1: for them? When they're like it's better, what's like the

609
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Speaker 1: very tenuous data or argument they're holding on to to

610
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Speaker 1: be able to say that out loud in public and

611
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Speaker 1: not get laughed at.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so, like very simply, methane does burn cleaner than

613
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Speaker 4: like regular gas clean or something like that. But that's

614
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Speaker 4: only when it's burnt, like when it's actually being burnt

615
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Speaker 4: by those buses, that it is cleaner. But the whole

616
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Speaker 4: life cycle, you know, happen to get it up out

617
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Speaker 4: of the ground, all of the gas that goes out,

618
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 4: transporting it, all of those different pieces. Yeah, you add

619
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Speaker 4: that all up, and it's not yet the leaks.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's not good.

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Speaker 2: You know. We hear from climate scientists like that. There's

622
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Speaker 2: been a number of like reports where they're like, guys,

623
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Speaker 2: it's going going hotter faster than we expected in our

624
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: some of our worst case projections. But I've not heard

625
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Speaker 2: it connected to liquid natural gas until your show that,

626
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Speaker 2: Like that's one of the theories as to how we're

627
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Speaker 2: we're getting there, how it's getting so much hotter, so

628
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Speaker 2: much faster. So that's just I wanted to make sure

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Speaker 2: that we made that connection too right.

630
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Speaker 1: And what kind of kicked off the LNG boom, like

631
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Speaker 1: is was it like a green washing thing where the

632
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: emphasis on oil created like a lane for like LNG

633
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: to move in the shadows because everyone's so focused on oil,

634
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: or was there like a pr moment where proponents were like, Okay,

635
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: we can claim that this gas is different, let's do that.

636
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: What sort of like what what were the what were

637
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Speaker 1: the building blocks to kind of get us to this point.

638
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: Now we're like, y'all, we are absolutely destroying our planet

639
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: like that one of the worst ways possible, and we're

640
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 1: barely even talking about that dimension of it.

641
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Speaker 3: I mean, what really kicked this off was like, don't

642
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: remember the fracking boom, Like it was really took off

643
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: like under Obama's time, where like the technology for fracking

644
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: got so good that all of a sudden, these oil

645
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: and gas companies like out in West Texas and New

646
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Speaker 3: Mexico and like the areas where there has been a

647
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: ton of fracking, like they got so good at it

648
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 3: that there was a surplus right of all this natural

649
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 3: gas and they're like, okay, we can only sell so

650
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Speaker 3: much of it domestically, where are we going to sell

651
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Speaker 3: all this stuff? And we went at that time like

652
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Speaker 3: there were the first correct me if I'm wrong on

653
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Speaker 3: this alley, but I think the first LNG terminal on

654
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Speaker 3: the on the Gulf Coast was for bringing it was

655
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Speaker 3: for importing LNG because at that point we didn't have

656
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Speaker 3: that much. And then it goes, you know, in a

657
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Speaker 3: few years and went from that import terminal becoming an

658
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Speaker 3: export terminal, and then all of these plans for all

659
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Speaker 3: of these this rollout of the like this huge expansion

660
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Speaker 3: of LNG export terminals because we've just have that much

661
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: natural gas that you know, the industry is like, well,

662
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: let's sell it, let's lipify it, ship it everywhere else

663
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 3: and sell it overseas. Yeah, and we know that natural

664
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: gas well mm hmm. I was about to saying, we

665
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 3: know natural gas is cleaner than coal, but you know,

666
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: again that's like a big question mark. Not necessarily, but

667
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: that was at least the argument that was grasped by

668
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Speaker 3: the pr agencies, by the oil and gas industries that

669
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: they promoted that gas is cleaner, right, Gas is the

670
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 3: cleanest fossil fuel. And so when you make people think that,

671
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: they're like, oh, aren't we already doing the cleanest that

672
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Speaker 3: we can do?

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Speaker 1: You know, right? Right? And would I be correct in

674
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Speaker 1: assuming that when Republicans and some Democrats tout the benefits

675
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: of LNG expansion, like new jobs, increased revenues for the community.

676
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: The opposite is happening, is that is that?

677
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Speaker 2: Is that correct?

678
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Speaker 1: I mean, like it sounds like locals are not benefiting

679
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: and the environment is absolutely taking an absolute kick in

680
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: the teeth because of it. But I don't know, maybe

681
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: there's maybe these people that live in these areas are

682
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: shareholders because those people seem to be getting value. So

683
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: maybe the a lot of the shareholders for these companies

684
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: live along in the Golf coast or this is all

685
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: just pr spin.

686
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 3: That's a really good question. I think like they're for

687
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: sure supporters on the ground in these communities because there

688
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 3: are some jobs the whole Like you know, how many

689
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: jobs are construction jobs so around just during the construction,

690
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 3: and then how many are permanent and how many jobs

691
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 3: are actually in are the people in the community getting

692
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: those jobs? Like all of that, it gets a little

693
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 3: more nebulous of like how many jobs are really how

694
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 3: many good jobs are really? You know, is are these

695
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 3: new export terminals providing? But like on the other side

696
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 3: of it, for sure, the impacts of the environment are crazy.

697
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 3: I mean, the amount of pollution that these communities are

698
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 3: having to live with are pretty extreme. So like yes,

699
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 3: there are some benefits, but do they outweigh the other

700
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: and then also out where so these are getting right yeah,

701
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: and then a lot of these companies are getting massive

702
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 3: tax breaks as well, so how much money is coming

703
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 3: to these communities. So there are a lot of questions

704
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: like that.

705
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Speaker 1: But the share but the shareholders, right, they are winning.

706
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: The shareholders are winning.

707
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 3: Shareholders are doing gang bus.

708
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Speaker 2: Okay, oh thank god, Okay, I was worried. I told you, Jack,

709
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: they seemed to stay winning. It turns out shareholders yeah, yeah,

710
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: and yeah, I I like there there's a recent I

711
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: forget which episode it was, but just talking talking about

712
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: how as long as it remains business as usual, they're

713
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 2: going to keep finding ways to do this. Like the

714
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: natural gas starts as this like buzz term that's like

715
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: this is the future of energy and like it's cleaner

716
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 2: and it's a bridge fuel to like a cleaner tomorrow.

717
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: And then it becomes ensconced and like you know, the

718
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: second that something is making money, it becomes more powerful.

719
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 2: And it brings me back to this, Like I remember

720
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: an article in the Wall Street Journal, all those talking

721
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: about how DEI and like environmental justice initiatives like were

722
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: like they were, like, you know, these once had momentum,

723
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 2: but now they're a bad word on Wall Street because

724
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: they've been like determined to be less profitable. And it

725
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: just it feels like the way the system is set up,

726
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 2: like you really can't use the logic the internal mechanisms

727
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: of like hypercapitalism to fix this. It feels like it

728
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: has to take into account that they are going to

729
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: find a way to keep things the way they're going

730
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: for as long as possible, Like they're going to go

731
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: down kicking and screaming. But I don't know what, like

732
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: does does that seem true to you? Do you? Like

733
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: you guys do a good job of highlighting things that

734
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: make you hopeful? Are there examples that kind of contradict

735
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: that of where people you know, where BP is like

736
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: investing in clean energy in the future or something, you know,

737
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: like what just how do you guys think about that

738
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 2: big question? Jack? I know, like the role Yeah, just

739
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 2: like specifically the ability of like entrenched power to ever

740
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 2: be like part of the solution.

741
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 4: I feel like, and Carly, I'm so curious about what

742
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 4: you think here too, Like you know, I don't I'm

743
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 4: not sure if you guys are familiar or if your

744
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 4: listeners are familiar with the IPCC report. It's a giant

745
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: international report that's basically a collection of all of the

746
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 4: latest and greatest climate science that's summarized by you know,

747
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 4: all the big climate scientists out there working together on it.

748
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 4: And when you look at those projections, they always have

749
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 4: this one option that's business as usual. And so that's

750
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 4: of like we kept doing the same thing that we're

751
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 4: still doing, still rule our society the same way that

752
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 4: if you look at those projections. Obviously this is audio,

753
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 4: so I have to explain my hand gesture here. The graph,

754
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 4: the temperature graph just keeps going up. It's just an

755
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 4: exponential graph to the top where our planet just kind

756
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 4: of burns up. And I think that that says that

757
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 4: we should not continue business as usually. We need to

758
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 4: find other ways to do our business.

759
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 2: Okay, so your anti planet burning up? Okay, interesting, that's

760
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 2: your opinion.

761
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, not going to come in with the counterpoid to that,

762
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: but but I am going to bring in the hope

763
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: that I think you are looking for, Jack, which is

764
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: like renewables are also doing gangbusters, and like we the

765
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: solar installations and wind capacity that we're adding every year

766
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 3: is like we're doing better than expected, and so like

767
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 3: renewables are taking off, they're getting everybody knows, they're also

768
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: getting cheaper. They're becoming the cheaper option. And so yes,

769
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 3: entrenched power. An entrenched industry is really hard to like

770
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: dislodge from their place of power. Of course, they want

771
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: to keep doing business as usual. But when the market

772
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 3: keeps saying, yeah, but this is so much cheaper and

773
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: better for the planet, then there's only so long you

774
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 3: can you can fight that. So, I mean, that's really hopeful.

775
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: It's just how much renewable energy is taking off around

776
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 3: the world.

777
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, just to bash capitalism a little bit more though there.

778
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: And then right after that, Carly with a counterpoint.

779
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 4: Last year, I was talking to this like retired like

780
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 4: longtime environmental lawyer, and he I don't know if I

781
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 4: have heard of the rights of nature movement. It's basically

782
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: this like push by different indigenous groups to be able

783
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 4: to steward these different pieces of nature and give them

784
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 4: their own rights, almost as a person, like a river

785
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 4: could be have the same protective rights as a person.

786
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 4: And that's actually moving forward in South American countries. That's

787
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 4: moving forward. It's actually been ingrained in a Latin American

788
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 4: country's constitution, and it's moving forward in places like Europe,

789
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 4: areas that are more socialist. That moves forward. And when

790
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 4: I was asking him like, is there any hope can

791
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 4: we get that done here in the US, He's like,

792
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 4: I mean we could, but capitalism, Yeah.

793
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 2: It's like how many guillotines you got? Counterpoint, that's ridiculous.

794
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 2: The only thing that should have the rights of people

795
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: is corporate corporations yea burnt Yeah, yeah, sorry, I could

796
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: tell you. Yeah, No, I mean there there was successful

797
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: legislation in Where was it it was in a US state?

798
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: I want to say Minnesota maybe, but where like a

799
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: group of kids basically and keep it. I don't know

800
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Speaker 2: enough to finish the sentence. Minnesota Timberwolves or something. I

801
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: was thinking of the Minnesota Timberwolves. You had a good

802
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: run in the NBA playoffs.

803
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Yeah, give me the kids lawsuit.

804
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: Like the kids, Yes, that's the one I was thinking of.

805
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, searing companies for our future?

806
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah.

807
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: A question like, oh, y, all right, let's take a break.

808
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: All right, let's uh, let's take a quick break and

809
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: we will be right back and we're back. We're back, Miles.

810
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: I cut you off to go to the break so

811
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: that I could try and google the thing that I

812
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: was talking about, and I was so off base I

813
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 2: didn't I couldn't even be like, yes.

814
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: The Rudy Go Bear trial. Oh no, that's the Timberwolves again. Yeah,

815
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: I know that. You know, you know, with an election year,

816
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: there's always like.

817
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 2: Some montage damn it.

818
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 9: Sorry, oh yeah that was way that was a few

819
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 9: months ago. Yeah, yeah, okay, Hey, it was a damnated Stana. Yeah,

820
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 9: Montana Jack because Montana Minnesota.

821
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, fact checking love.

822
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 3: It because I thought you were going with the rights

823
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: of nature thing, because I think in Minnesota there was

824
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 3: a tribe that got the rights to a kind of

825
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 3: wild rice. So it's just kind of wild rice. Yeah,

826
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 3: has the same rights as the person. So that's probably

827
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 3: what you were thinking about.

828
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely not we also, yeah, I think you can whatever

829
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: the smartest version in your brain is, like, that's probably

830
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: the ones.

831
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: Most nuanced smart Yeah, answer was that that's what I

832
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: was thinking. But I was saying, you know, in an

833
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: election year, there's always there's all like energy always becomes

834
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 1: a focal point. And whether it was like Biden initially

835
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: being like are you with fracking?

836
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 2: Are you against fracking?

837
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: And some people being like, we've seen what fracking does

838
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: to our state, Like this always ends up being something

839
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: that has to get uttered on a debate stage. And

840
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: I was curious that earlier this year, you know, there

841
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: was a there's an export ban on LNG and I've

842
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: seen I've seen a lot of think pieces from like

843
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, financial sector, like Wall Street journal types and

844
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: Fox newsplaces like this is actually going to be this

845
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: is going to doom our economy. But from an environmental standpoint,

846
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: how do you look at this LNG band that's it's positive,

847
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: it's is it? How how far is it going? Because

848
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: in like knowing what I know from listening to your

849
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: show and just how dire the situation is with liquified

850
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: natural gas. Hearing that there is a band, I'm like, oh,

851
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: that sounds like progressive, but what how is that viewed as?

852
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: How's that viewed from like, you know, the people that

853
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: are really in the trenches when it comes to this

854
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: battle with the expansion of energy.

855
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 3: Well I'll start so so yeah, I'll just start off.

856
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: So like the Biden It's it's really more it's like

857
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: a pause, So we are still exporting the heck out

858
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 3: of LNG right now, like oh okay, that is going

859
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 3: up and up so that we have more export terminals.

860
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: There's still many in the process of being built. So

861
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: it didn't do any thing to what we're exporting now

862
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: and what we will continue to export as more of

863
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 3: these export terminals come online. But what this pause did

864
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: was say, before we give the green light to all

865
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: these other ones that are you know, waiting in the wings. Yeah,

866
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 3: oh okay, so they're all waiting to get the green light,

867
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 3: they're going to say, well, actually, why don't we think

868
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 3: about what are the climate implications and your point about

869
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 3: like election year and like prices that impact all of us.

870
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: What does exporting energy due to America's energy prices? So

871
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 3: the pause is just like, we're going to look at

872
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 3: all this information and then we'll decide should we keep

873
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 3: expanding energy?

874
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: So I see, Yeah, but worded very cleverly to give

875
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: the feeling that it's like we've we've shut the spigots off, folks,

876
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: not a not a drop more. But I get it.

877
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: Like anything. I mean, so many of the like recent

878
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: decisions have been something of like and we're going to

879
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: check in on the state of coal energy in like

880
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: eight years or after the Yeah, yeah, exactly.

881
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: But how do you want to like, do you want

882
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: to bring up the whole price like what we found

883
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: out in our reporting with like LNG and how it

884
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 3: does affect.

885
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I can talk about that. I was also

886
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 4: going to mention what the LNG pause that people on

887
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 4: the ground, like environmental justice activists that have been working

888
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 4: against these plans for a while are were, This was

889
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 4: like a huge major stuff. They were about to go

890
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 4: like bang down the doors of the Biden administration Department

891
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 4: Energy and like sit down in their building and not

892
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 4: leave until they gave them what they wanted. So for them,

893
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 4: this was like a huge step forward. But also, yeah,

894
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 4: even beyond those activists, there's actually a giant group of different,

895
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 4: i don't know, different types of industries once that you

896
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 4: wouldn't even necessarily think would care about LNG or be

897
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 4: anti shipping gas everywhere. And that's because the more gas

898
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 4: that we ship out, the more pressure it actually puts

899
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 4: on our own economy. And so when you see your

900
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 4: natural gas maybe your eating bills going up, that could

901
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 4: be the result of how much gas we're sending out

902
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 4: because we're opening ourselves up to this larger market. I

903
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 4: don't know if that explanation made sense. That makes sense.

904
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 3: It's a lot more volatile, and like, yeah, it's also

905
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 3: a supply and demand, like we're sending our supply elsewhere.

906
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: We're not just giving it all here for us where

907
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, we've got this glut, so like our

908
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 3: prices are going to go down when we're sending it

909
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 3: to other countries who will pay a lot more for

910
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 3: it than it's making the price.

911
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: Go up, right, Yeah. And then because I'm sure the

912
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: Ukrainian invasion also was a huge help to American natural

913
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: I remember that was like a thing that felt like

914
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 1: we weren't talking enough about at the time. But I remember,

915
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: like for a second, they're like, Russia could make Europe

916
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: cold by turning off the gas. And then like you'd

917
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: see sometimes like America has a lot of LG to

918
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: help people out over there, and you're like, oh great now,

919
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: rather than like arms shipments, were like, hey man, we

920
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: got this other thing you can buy that's already obstructive

921
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: to your house.

922
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, they go yeah, And it's crazy because that's still

923
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 4: an argument that the gas industry is making even now

924
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 4: two years later.

925
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: Wow.

926
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they know how to push our buttons or push

927
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: the New York Times as buttons, I guess. So I

928
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: do feel like there is things I've heard in the

929
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: show that just generally, like people who go in depth

930
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 2: on a problem like this, you guys know all the

931
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: ways that it's really bad and troubling. Like there's a

932
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 2: whole insurance aspect to this, with like people not being

933
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: able to buy home insurance anymore because of you know,

934
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 2: just how bleak the outlook is for the climate or

935
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: the specific locations where they are that is already happening.

936
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: But so you know, like the details of how it's bad,

937
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 2: But I feel like you also get a look at

938
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: like people coming together to like make changes and like

939
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: create things that could give us hope. And I was

940
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: just wanting to like spend the last section of the

941
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: show just talking about what you guys have seen in

942
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: that respect of people kind of coming together and fighting

943
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: for each other and the future of the planet.

944
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll start with just like this episode that Hallie

945
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 3: recorded with activists from around the world that was after

946
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: our LNG series, and she spoke to activists in Japan

947
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 3: and Germany and across the Gulf Coast, and it was

948
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: really inspiring to hear how people are coming together from

949
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: you know, other countries and building and building an alliance

950
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 3: of saying like, okay, we're seeing these impacts here too,

951
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 3: you're seeing them there. A lot of them have come

952
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: to the US to see, like because we're ground zero

953
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 3: where this is where it's all coming from, to kind

954
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 3: of draw the connections, and a lot of them, you know,

955
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 3: they're finding hope in their work and they're like the

956
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 3: last thing anybody should do is you know, we don't

957
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: have time for any of us to get to depress

958
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 3: about this and just go like hide in a hole,

959
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 3: like there's work to be done to save our planet.

960
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 3: And so they were, you know, forming bonds around that,

961
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: and like each one of them was finding hope in

962
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 3: the fact that like you find the pockets where things

963
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: are getting better and renewable energy is taking off, and

964
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: like you know, there is this pause on just like

965
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 3: willy nilly expanding without thinking about you know, the ramifications, right,

966
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 3: So like people are finding the winds where they can.

967
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and are the question of whether they'll be enough

968
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 2: like that, just finding the winds and then like if

969
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: we can magnify those just to talk about the winds,

970
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: then you know there there can be momentum there. But

971
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: it does feel like you need to go kind of

972
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 2: small to local reporting to find to find out that

973
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: much about whatever right he's doing.

974
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: Because we're so used to seeing things at such a

975
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: macro level where it's like, yeah, this industry is doing

976
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: this and they're doing great, and some people try to

977
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: push back and it's not working. But then I was

978
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: listening to that episode with all that the activists on

979
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: the ground, and it was interesting how they all saw

980
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 1: how what their respective country's role is in this sort

981
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: of like mechanism of LNG expansion where I think Maluki

982
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: was the name of the Japanese guy. He was saying,

983
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: you know, obviously Japan is a huge investor, like the

984
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: institutional investment comes from Japanese banks, and then the German

985
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: guys like we're the biggest consumer of it, and understanding that,

986
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: like for the Japanese activists, like they're having to put

987
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: pressure like on the institutional banks to understand like what

988
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: exactly is happening and how those roles are different. But

989
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: because of the coordination, they're feeling like Oh yeah, we're

990
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: we're find like we're seeing what every how everything works.

991
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: But it's about that. I mean, it's really solidarity and

992
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: that that level of commitment and collaboration that gives them

993
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: the hope. And I think that just seems to be

994
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: the message across many crisis crises we look at on

995
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: the earth, whether it's environmental or otherwise, that it's if

996
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: we are able to maintain this level of connection and

997
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: understand how we support each other through that it becomes

998
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 1: like a much more or less of a herculean task.

999
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was.

1000
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 4: So beautifully put. Yeah, No, yeah, I agreed. I was

1001
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 4: going to say with one of the most emotional moments

1002
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 4: I would say was when Hiroki, the Japanese activist who

1003
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 4: is in that episode, was visiting Louisiana's Gulf Coast. I

1004
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 4: got to go and like follow him in his visit

1005
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 4: and seeing these LNG plans. He went on the boat

1006
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 4: of a shrimper named Travis Dardar who's in our first episode,

1007
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 4: and they're having this conversation and I don't know the

1008
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 4: cabin I think that's what is called on boats, and

1009
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 4: like immediately Travis is like, so you're here to help us,

1010
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 4: and he's like, yeah, we're here to fight together, and

1011
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 4: they just have this moment of talking about how they're

1012
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 4: going to support each other on different ends of the country.

1013
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you do hear that just generally from people

1014
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: who are on the ground. For like in movies when

1015
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 2: there's a disaster, when there's a flood, a gang of

1016
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: bank robbers comes in and robs the local bank with

1017
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of a very specific Christian Slater movie from

1018
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: the early nineties. But people, generally, when bad happens, it's

1019
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 2: like every man for himself. This gives us an excuse

1020
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: to just like fuck each other over. And in reality,

1021
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 2: you see people want to help each other a lot

1022
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: of the time. That's the thing that gets cut out

1023
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: of the accounts of like what happens in a catastrophe,

1024
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: So like just down to that cellular level of like

1025
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: people helping people. It just it feels like a way

1026
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 2: that we kind of warp what's actually going on to

1027
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: make it seem less hopeful at a time when I

1028
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: feel like people do need the hope. Yeah.

1029
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely, What would you say, what would you give us

1030
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: as listeners people that are interested in the topic, as

1031
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: like homework to better you know, help in this, you know,

1032
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: because obviously there's so many things that we need to

1033
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: be on top of to know about to inform our

1034
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: But what is the best way that you know for

1035
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: someone who's listening now realizing oh yeah, like oh, I've

1036
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: definitely heard of liquified natural gas, but I didn't realize

1037
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: it needs some serious attention. What are those steps? Like?

1038
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: Is it just about seeing what kind of bills are

1039
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: propping up like in your local legislation or local legislature

1040
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: or organizations? What do you feel from doing this kind

1041
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: of work and talking to these people is sort of

1042
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: the way to get more everyday individual citizens to have

1043
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: a level of awareness that feels like we can kind

1044
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: of reach some kind of tipping point.

1045
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 4: Well, I'd say number one, support the people who are

1046
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 4: on the ground and are most affected by this issue.

1047
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 4: And I can I can list off some group names.

1048
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: If sure, like yeah, and well even those yeah footnotes

1049
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: will put that in our footnotes so people don't.

1050
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 4: Check that out linked in the footnotes. So that is

1051
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 4: the Vessel Project that's based in southwest Louisiana and Lake Charles.

1052
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 4: Another Lake Charles based group is or A Better Buy

1053
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 4: You And then one based on Cameron is called fish

1054
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 4: and it stands for fishermen. Oh god, now I pulled

1055
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 4: a jack.

1056
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 3: Can we go to a break? Yeah, just go to

1057
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 3: a break.

1058
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: I find that it's always good to just cut to

1059
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: a break, spend some time googling, come back, and still not.

1060
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: Have But seriously, what was going on? Can I read

1061
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: this thing from Food and Wine magazine the pre seasonal

1062
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: launch of the milk chok okay, fine, fine, okay?

1063
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 4: I found fish. Fish is fishermen interested in saving our heritage.

1064
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 4: So those are a couple of groups. And again going

1065
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 4: back to that LNG pause too, there are going to

1066
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 4: be opportunities for the public to comment during that process,

1067
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 4: So stay out, look out for the Department of Energy website.

1068
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 4: I'm sure everybody's watching that website. No, so maybe we

1069
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 4: can pass along that link too.

1070
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.

1071
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I would say, you know, while you're eating

1072
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 3: brunch or not choosing to eat brunch, talking about this

1073
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 3: stuff with people, I think talking about anything that you

1074
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 3: read about the is hopeful and spreading those stories, but

1075
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 3: also being aware of like, hey, is this greenwashing this

1076
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 3: thing that I'm hearing these like slick commercials. Maybe I

1077
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 3: should do a little like research on my own and

1078
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 3: find out.

1079
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: So people aren't just like everything's bad, You're just gonna

1080
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 2: tell me everything's bad. What what are the good ones

1081
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:24,959
Speaker 2: that actually work? Wind solar? Just which are growing, which

1082
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 2: are actually helpful? Is that would those be the ones

1083
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 2: that we should suggest people invest time and energy into.

1084
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 3: Those are the ones that are growing like crazy right now.

1085
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 3: And then there's a lot of other things on the

1086
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 3: horizon that I think people are excited about. So, but

1087
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 3: wind and solar are definitely like the two big industries

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Speaker 3: that are doing well for the shareholders and for and

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Speaker 3: for these countries that are are moving really quickly off

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Speaker 3: of fossil fuels.

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Speaker 2: Because at brunch I generally discuss the shareholder value. That's

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Speaker 2: kind of the main currency that we speak about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I brought you. I figured I feel anything that

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Speaker 1: has any value. And just quick counterpoint, Carly, but what

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Speaker 1: about the utility companies? If we're just making our own energy,

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Speaker 1: what but what happens to them? You should we care?

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you have the concern for these utilities.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I get an email every day from some lobbyists

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Speaker 1: I'm friends with who just asked me to say some

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Speaker 1: of this stuff on the show. For Get I get

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Speaker 1: discounts a chevron.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, what we're saying, wasn't there a big thing

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Speaker 3: that just happened in California that like community solar, rooftop solar,

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Speaker 3: like a I don't know, y'all know that something was

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Speaker 3: just shot down because I think utilities do have so

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Speaker 3: much power that of course they don't want they want

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Speaker 3: to keep making money.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yep, yep, yeah, I mean they say it's

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Speaker 1: threatening some Joshua. There's all kinds of weird, bizarre stuff

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Speaker 1: about why solar is bad in California. But yes, no, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to the lobbyists. Again. I tried to get

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Speaker 1: that information into the show. Just didn't work out organically, folks.

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Speaker 1: We'll try next show, won't you think about the readers?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, thank you guys so much for

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Speaker 2: joining us. Carly Hallie, where can people find you? Guys?

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Speaker 2: Follow you, hear you all that good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Well, our podcast is called ce Change, that's Sea Change,

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Speaker 3: and you can listen to us wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 4: I was waiting for that.

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Speaker 3: That line that's like kind of means something, I guess,

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Speaker 3: But you know you can listen to us at that

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Speaker 3: place that you do other places.

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Speaker 2: And is there a work of media that you guys

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Speaker 2: have been enjoying.

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Speaker 4: Can I name a movie?

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Speaker 2: Oh, you have a movie, you can name a tweet,

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Speaker 2: you can do book, whatever, anything, anything.

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Speaker 4: I just saw Challengers, one of the best movies of

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Speaker 4: my life.

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Speaker 1: I think so amazing. It's that one is such a

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of got the same feeling

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Speaker 1: of like what mad Max Fury Road had. When it

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Speaker 1: came out, people were like, yeah, I know about it,

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Speaker 1: but everyone's like, no, dude, you need to go see that.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's really good and I'm glad. I did

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Speaker 1: shout out producer a Ena for putting the pressure for

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Speaker 1: me to watch it.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: I just finished this really good book called Charleston Race

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Speaker 3: Water in the Coming Storm and it's by Susan Crawford,

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Speaker 3: and it's super interesting about how Charleston, the development of Charleston,

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Speaker 3: and you know, speaking of like the wealthy living on

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Speaker 3: higher ground and where poor neighborhoods are located in terms

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Speaker 3: of kind of like rising seas. But it's a really

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Speaker 3: interesting look at like how the city of Charleston is

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Speaker 3: booming right now, and like, what's what's happening there with Yeah,

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Speaker 3: with a lot of climate climate impacts, So I recommend it.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming Yeah, oh yeah, yes, it's amazing. Miles. Where

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Speaker 2: can people find you? Is their working media? You've been

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Speaker 2: enjoying it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, find me Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Gray, pretty

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Speaker 1: much anywhere else they have at symbols, find Jack and

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Speaker 1: I in the Basketball podcast and mousing jacko mat boost Boosties.

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Speaker 1: You can find me talking about ninety day Fiance on

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Speaker 1: My Other twenty Day Fiance and also if you like

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theories, check me out on the latest episode of

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Speaker 1: My Mama Told Me with Langston Kerman and David Borie.

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Speaker 1: A work of media, I like, okay, you know what

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Speaker 1: I saw something that it was really funny. I used

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Speaker 1: to watch the every version of the Office that had

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Speaker 1: come out UK, American, et cetera. And this fan made

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Speaker 1: like edited together just clips of the Office to create

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Speaker 1: this like a twenty four esque psychological thriller where like

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Speaker 1: Dwight is in love with Kelly, and like Ryan becomes

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Speaker 1: the object of his like obsession to try and break

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Speaker 1: them up, and he's basically like a murderer it's fantastic,

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Speaker 1: Like someone in the comments on this Reddit post said,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Peele famously said, like, the only difference in comedy

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Speaker 1: and like thrillers is the is the score, and you know,

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Speaker 1: you play something a little bit more tense, everything can

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Speaker 1: have such a different feel to it. So I will

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Speaker 1: link to this fan made trailer of this like a

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Speaker 1: twenty four ask the Office thriller, because it's pretty amazing,

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Speaker 1: And I mean Office Watcher or not, it's just great editing,

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Speaker 1: great editing, amazing. Yeah, it is really worth watch.

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Speaker 2: Tweet I've been enjoying at W zero A zero I

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Speaker 2: zero f waif with zeros in between all the letters.

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Speaker 2: Tweeted not my meet gas inheriting the Earth.

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Speaker 1: Very good.

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Speaker 2: We have language you.

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Speaker 4: Can back around.

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Speaker 2: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O Brian.

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Speaker 2: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zai Guys.

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Speaker 2: Were at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a

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Speaker 2: Facebook fan page at a website Daily zei Guys dot

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Speaker 2: com where we post our episodes and our footnote. No,

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Speaker 2: we'll link off to the information that we talked about

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Speaker 2: in today's episode, as well as a song that we

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Speaker 2: think you might enjoy. Miles what's the song.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, just in keeping with this like a twenty

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Speaker 1: four esque trailer, the person who edited put in like

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Speaker 1: this really amazing. I think it's a Hungarian rock band

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Speaker 1: called Omega. They have a track in there called The

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Speaker 1: translation is I believe Pearls in Her Hair. I'm not

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Speaker 1: okay if it was Hungarian, I believe it's gung Hai

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Speaker 1: yu Lan okay, don't yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for the first time I everwhere I did

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Speaker 5: that different. But it's g G y O n g

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Speaker 5: y h A j U space l A n y.

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Speaker 5: Just go to the footnotes. But this is like one

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Speaker 5: of those dope sort.

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Speaker 1: Of like uh like acid rock songs that like from

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Speaker 1: like Eastern Europe that just has such like emotion to

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Speaker 1: it and truly brought this trailer to life. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sure a lot of people have heard this in other places.

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Speaker 1: But that's the song we're going to go out to,

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Speaker 1: Pearls in Her Hair by Omega.

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Speaker 2: All right, well we will link off to that footnote.

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Speaker 2: Dailey's That Guy is a production by Heart Radio. For

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Speaker 2: more podcasts my Heart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app,

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Speaker 2: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite choices.

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Speaker 2: Wherever you get your podcasts, that's going to do it

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Speaker 2: for us on this Tuesday morning. We are back this

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Speaker 2: afternoon to tell you what is trending and we will

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Speaker 2: talk to you all then. Bye bye,