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Speaker 1: What is up? Everybody? Welcome into a Monday edition, A

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Speaker 1: victory Monday edition of Texans All Access. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: John Harris, glad to be with you. I think my

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Speaker 1: heart rate is back in line. Finally, I think my

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Speaker 1: breath is all caught up in Look, it was the altitude.

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Speaker 1: I was dying. Saturday night. We got an extra hour

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Speaker 1: sleep because of Daylight's savings time ending and we were

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Speaker 1: The Altaio was a killer, absolute killer. I liked them

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Speaker 1: for a lot. I just can't sleep up there. But

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Speaker 1: either way, it was a little weird going in the Sunday.

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Speaker 1: And then as this game is unfolding on Sunday, my gosh,

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Speaker 1: this thing is all over the place, and I'm telling you, I, oh,

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Speaker 1: my goodness. I don't know about you, guys, but there

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Speaker 1: was a part of me that and I try to

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Speaker 1: be as prepared as I possibly can for every situation

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Speaker 1: that happens. So when Emmanuel Sanders catches that fourth down

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Speaker 1: throw on fourth to eight, I just remember my mind

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Speaker 1: kind of preparing myself. Okay, what if, what if a

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Speaker 1: couple more plays they're gonna field goal? Range not gonna

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Speaker 1: field go home? Okay, what what do I need to

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Speaker 1: prepare myself for? All? Right? Going into the bye with

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Speaker 1: the loss? Man, you don't want that, that's I can

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to remember when I know in fifteen

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Speaker 1: they went in with a win, sixteen they went in

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Speaker 1: And fourteen was the only year I can remember where

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Speaker 1: they didn't go in the win. I think they lost

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Speaker 1: to Philadelphia. So there was a part of me going, man,

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Speaker 1: they win going into bys, and then they played pretty

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Speaker 1: well coming out of the buy oh man, And so

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of preparing myself for all this. And then well,

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Speaker 1: of course Brandon McManus missed a fifty yard or that

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Speaker 1: went wide right, which if you listen to radio call

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Speaker 1: you know all about. So thankfully, with all of that

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Speaker 1: going on, your Texans left Denver a nineteen to seventeen

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Speaker 1: victor at Andre Warren the show. We got Spencer Tillman

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Speaker 1: on the show. But let's get it started with our

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Speaker 1: hot reads in our high reads today, essentially our dudes

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Speaker 1: talking about the game. And we're gonna start with the

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Speaker 1: head dude of this football team and that is Bill O'Brien,

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Speaker 1: and he had a lot to say about this one,

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Speaker 1: in large part because he was asked about it. So

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Speaker 1: he spoke about it today. And the first thing he

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Speaker 1: was asked today was, you were sitting at oen three,

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Speaker 1: what did you have to change to get yourself and

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Speaker 1: this team to six and three. There were things that

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Speaker 1: we were doing earlier in the year that we either

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Speaker 1: needed to change or we needed to stop doing. And

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Speaker 1: you know, whether whether it was ball security on offense

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Speaker 1: or getting more takeaways on defense, or you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: using a player in a different way, or changing a

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Speaker 1: scheme or really you know, thinking about our formula, you know,

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Speaker 1: for how we want to try to win these games.

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Speaker 1: So I think give the coaching staff a lot of

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Speaker 1: because as they've really tried to do what we've asked

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Speaker 1: them to do. Yeah, no doubt, both sides, coaches, players,

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Speaker 1: man staff, everybody speaking of coaching staff got to buy

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Speaker 1: coming up. The players are going to get a few

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Speaker 1: days off. The coaching staff, we'll get some time off. Well,

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Speaker 1: they got some work to do. It just changes the

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Speaker 1: work this week, not a traditional routine like work week,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of work to do for the coaching

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Speaker 1: staff this week. We have to do a good job

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Speaker 1: over the next few days here of you know, looking

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Speaker 1: at ourselves, our scheme, how we're using different players in

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Speaker 1: relation to our opponents, starting with Washington. We're not looking

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Speaker 1: beyond Washington. But you know, okay, here comes the Redskins.

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Speaker 1: What are they doing? And okay, yeah, we may want

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Speaker 1: we better make sure it's you know, it coincides with

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Speaker 1: who we're playing. And so I think that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a big, you know, a big effort on our coaching

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Speaker 1: staffs part to make sure we make some good decisions

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Speaker 1: over the next couple days. Yeah, one of the guys said,

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Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. It was absolutely amazing, and I can't

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Speaker 1: what's going through him today to come down after that victory.

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Speaker 1: and see something like yesterday. Demarrius Thomas. They gave a

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Speaker 1: incredible scene yesterday. There's no doubt about that. Now. One

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Speaker 1: He's shown a ton of improvement in growth. He's just

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Speaker 1: But I had to understand, you know, it's a process.

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Speaker 1: injury report with a grunty injury, and Drey, that brings

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Speaker 1: me this question about what that win met yesterday with

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Speaker 1: the guys that are banged up and the guys that

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Speaker 1: are playing through things. Mark and I talked about this.

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Speaker 1: When you get a win when you sort of just

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Speaker 1: you tough it out or you show the grit and

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Speaker 1: you get a win, especially in the road in that

433
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Speaker 1: place in particular, does it mean that much more of

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Speaker 1: the players? Is that one of the reasons why there

435
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Speaker 1: was probably a little bit more joy after yesterday's win

436
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Speaker 1: than maybe normal. Well, no doubt about it, because if

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Speaker 1: you look at it from a record standpoint, Johnny, six

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Speaker 1: and three looks a whole lot better and sounds a

439
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Speaker 1: whole lot better than five and four. Five and four,

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Speaker 1: you're one loss from being five hundred again, and then

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Speaker 1: six and three gives you a little bit of room

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Speaker 1: to breathe as well. I think some of that jimulation

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Speaker 1: was due to the fact that they're gonna get a

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Speaker 1: couple of extra days off after a win like that

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Speaker 1: on their crowd, So you know, that's always an added incentive.

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Speaker 1: And and so I think all that wrapped in the

447
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Speaker 1: one was what you saw yesterday after a game is

448
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Speaker 1: kind of a big sigh of relief because they knew

449
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Speaker 1: they were in a fight in a tough, tough place

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Speaker 1: to go play and win. Dre the way they're using

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Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson. When you look at the passing attempt

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Speaker 1: totals the last three games. I think it's highly notable.

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Speaker 1: You have two games with twenty four attamps in one

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Speaker 1: game with twenty and that was the one where he

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Speaker 1: threw five touchdown passes. They have not turned it over

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Speaker 1: in three games, so it's three straight games no turnovers

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Speaker 1: and twenty four passing attempts or less. I think we're

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Speaker 1: seeing the formula here with Bill O'Brien trying to run

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Speaker 1: the football and maximize what Watson can do efficiency wise. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I think he the Jahn's learning

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Speaker 1: or has learned from previous games because the three games

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Speaker 1: are the games prior to the three games stretch with

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Speaker 1: no turnovers, he was turning it over and he was

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Speaker 1: trying to do too much. And what it tells you

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Speaker 1: is he can he can go back digest what the

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Speaker 1: mistakes were, an eliminator and he doesn't make the same

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Speaker 1: mistake twice. I think coach O'Brien will tell you that

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Speaker 1: as well, and I think he has said it that

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Speaker 1: you know, he's such a student of the game that

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Speaker 1: he learns from his mistakes and doesn't make them and

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Speaker 1: doesn't make the same mistake twice. And when you have

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Speaker 1: a talent like that, he's only going to exhale and

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Speaker 1: it's going to go on an upward swing. And that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what he's doing to play yesterday in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: That may be a situation where he's trying to do

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Speaker 1: too much, hold on to it too long, he dumps

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Speaker 1: it down to Lamar Miller. It's a huge game, you know.

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Speaker 1: Now they have breathing room in which to start a drive.

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Speaker 1: So you can see the maturity of Deshaun Watson taking

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Speaker 1: place right before your eyes, and he's now got a

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Speaker 1: little bit of help. But Jay, it was a little

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Speaker 1: dicey yesterday with the Marius and how much he knew

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Speaker 1: about the offense and what he knew, But they got

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Speaker 1: him involved early with three catches for sixty one yards

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Speaker 1: and you made the sillient point about how DeAndre was

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Speaker 1: going to need to get his because you know, shooters

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Speaker 1: got to get the shots and all. But but getting

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Speaker 1: to Marrius those looks early on, I thought it was big,

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Speaker 1: not only for him but also for this offense to

490
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Speaker 1: show that had another layer with him now in it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was kind of one of those situations where it's, hey, welcome,

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Speaker 1: to the team, and we know how much this game

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Speaker 1: means to you, going back to a team you played

494
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Speaker 1: so long for and recently traded and now you're back

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Speaker 1: in that stadium. So they wanted to get him settled

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Speaker 1: in as quickly as possible during the week. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there was a package, you know, to start the game,

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Speaker 1: as you lay out the first fifteen plays of the game,

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Speaker 1: we're going to these are the first three or four

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Speaker 1: that you learn and and bed these in your memory

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Speaker 1: so that you can go out not have to think,

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Speaker 1: and then let's execute these. But then you could see

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Speaker 1: as well, after that initial drive there was a little

504
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Speaker 1: bit of thinking going on for Damarus Thomas, but that's understandable.

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Speaker 1: But now he's got two weeks to really digest the

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Speaker 1: playbook where once they get back into the swing of things,

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Speaker 1: he'll be up to speed with the rest of the guys.

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Speaker 1: That's still a short period of time in terms of

509
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Speaker 1: absorbing an offense, but he'll be He will be in

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Speaker 1: a much better place than he was yesterday. And I

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Speaker 1: thought he played outstanding for having been gone through two

512
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Speaker 1: or three produ two practices and maybe a walkthrough before

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Speaker 1: yesterday's game. And I know that sometimes when a team

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Speaker 1: is on a roll win wise, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: see a break in the momentum with the week off.

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Speaker 1: But I think for this team, do you agree or

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Speaker 1: disagree that this team kind of needs to press pause

518
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Speaker 1: right now with a health situation and everything that it's

519
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Speaker 1: taken to get back from all and three to this position.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on that, Yeah, you know, I'll agree with

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Speaker 1: you in that sense because there are so many injuries

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Speaker 1: and so many players banged up, and but you know,

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Speaker 1: you also know how I feel about, you know, capturing

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Speaker 1: magic and then and being able to write it for

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Speaker 1: a while. I don't like buye weeks. I never have.

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Speaker 1: I don't like first round buys in a playoffs. So

527
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Speaker 1: many teams get popped when they come back because it

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Speaker 1: just takes you out of your rhythm. You come back,

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Speaker 1: you have to kind of try to go recapture that

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Speaker 1: again after being off. You're gonna have a few off

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Speaker 1: days where you don't even go into the building, maybe

532
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: just for a workout, and then you're gone, so you're

533
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Speaker 1: not doing football stuff during this entire period that you're off.

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Speaker 1: So that that, to me, um kind of takes away

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Speaker 1: a little bit of the magic that they've they've been

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Speaker 1: able to capture. Drey. I looked over there and Mark

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00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: was watching some movie, and I did see on your

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Speaker 1: TV screen Patriots v. Packers. What do you think of

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Speaker 1: the middle? Don't give me that you're watching like Martha

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Speaker 1: Stewart or some movie or some rotic comedy. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do you think of the matchup last night? He

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Speaker 1: may have been watching the piano or something. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure what when you when you have Patriots and and

544
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: uh and Packers going on? But yeah, I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: It's still the best. You know, you could arguably one

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Speaker 1: two either way in terms of the best and from

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Speaker 1: a pure talent standpoint that's ever played the position. So

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Speaker 1: I was focused and locked in from that standpoint. But

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Speaker 1: it was it was, It was what I expected. With

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Speaker 1: the Patriots being at home. Uh, that's you're just not

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Speaker 1: gonna be Brady there, which is why you know you're

552
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: better served forcing the Patriots to go on the road

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Speaker 1: and play them in the playoffs. And I think as

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Speaker 1: long as you can hold on to the steering wheel

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Speaker 1: of this thing and keep pace and stay within rain

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Speaker 1: a striking distance of them, because as you go through

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Speaker 1: the schedule, you always have to keep them in the

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Speaker 1: back of your mind. But that game was was out

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Speaker 1: standing for a long time, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick decided to pull his pencil lot of his

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Speaker 1: from his ear and pull his you know, put his

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Speaker 1: coach and hat on, and did a heck of a

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Speaker 1: job in the second half of that one as they

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Speaker 1: pulled away. Can I complain about two things regarding college football?

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Speaker 1: By the way, while we have everybody to gather together,

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Speaker 1: why too many plays in a college football game? Too

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Speaker 1: many snaps? The clock's got to run like an NFL game.

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Speaker 1: Because we always talk about players, safety and everything at

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Speaker 1: all levels of football. Why are we doing these college

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Speaker 1: games where you have a billion snaps and the games

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Speaker 1: take four hours? To me, it's ridiculous, you know, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: And then you have like seven touchdown passes and well, sorry, Dre,

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Speaker 1: I know you like big numbers sometimes, but you're the

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Speaker 1: one putting up. But but what do you think of that?

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Speaker 1: Like running the clock a little bit, why does it

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Speaker 1: have to stop on all the first downs? Do it

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Speaker 1: inside the final two minutes of the game? That is

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Speaker 1: the uh. I don't even I wouldn't even do it

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Speaker 1: the final two minutes of the game, I would just

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Speaker 1: running and U and it would be exactly exactly. I

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Speaker 1: made that statement on Saturday in the BYU Boyse State

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Speaker 1: game that I was calling. Because it does, it takes forever.

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Speaker 1: I would also run replays like the NFL, because every

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Speaker 1: play is reviewable in college football and it just takes forever.

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Speaker 1: It takes you out of a rhythm, even when you're

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Speaker 1: on offense. It's almost like giving the defense and time

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00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: out when you go to review, so now they get

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00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: the rest, the offense gets out of sync. It drives

589
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Speaker 1: me absolutely nuts, and it's it was not meant for that.

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Speaker 1: You do not need to review every single play in

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Speaker 1: a college football game. The humanistic part of it is gone.

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00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: There needs to be mistakes in a game, and so

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00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: we could talk about it, and there's controversy and adds

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Speaker 1: to the to the zest of the game, the overall game.

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Speaker 1: But to stop at every play, or be able to

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Speaker 1: stop at every play is nuts. And then stopping it

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00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: after first down that's nuts as well. We could get

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Speaker 1: games down to about three hours and fifteen minutes like

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Speaker 1: the NFL, and that's exactly how it should be. So partner.

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Speaker 1: We agree that my next complaint will say for our

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Speaker 1: next conversation. But it's it's all these different uniforms, like

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Speaker 1: Ohio State was playing in those Ridiculous Uniforms episode. I'm

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Speaker 1: not in Ohio State family, I'm going Ohio State. I

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Speaker 1: want to wear that uniform. I want to wear that uniform.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, what are the Cougars known for? Rid?

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Speaker 1: Cougar rid? Right? Yeah? Why where do you have black

607
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: on some games? What is that all about? You know? Right? Training?

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Speaker 1: All right, we are get off my long guys, officially

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Speaker 1: now I have none of that. I'm good with all

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Speaker 1: of it. Oh yeah, I have. I have my festivals later. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll er our grievances. Thanks a lot, Andre, all right,

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00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: enjoy it always got Oh I got plenty of football

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00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: grievances for our football festivals. We need to have that

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00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: at some point. But oh yeah, I got a few.

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00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, as Kramer would say, get you up, Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: all right, we get back. Let's hear from our friends.

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Speaker 1: Spencer Tillman he joined us as well to give us

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Speaker 1: his thoughts on everything that he saw on Sunday, and

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Speaker 1: he actually had a chance to be in Denver after

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Speaker 1: a game that he called on the Pack Northwest Fencer Tillman.

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Speaker 1: Next on Texans All Access one, final segment of Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access from the Honday Texans Radio studio. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: John Harris, football an Elst Sild reporter, and so glad

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Speaker 1: to be with you. Little weary, a little tired heading

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Speaker 1: into bye week six and three and this Texans team

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00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about being six and three, got big

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Speaker 1: Monday night football game coming up, and can hear it

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Speaker 1: right here on our flagship sports Radio six ten. The

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys get a visit from the Tennessee Titans. Now,

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Speaker 1: the tight win, Titans will get formed four sole possession

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Speaker 1: of second place in the AFC South, and they will

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Speaker 1: be a game and a half behind the Texans because

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Speaker 1: the Titans had there by last week. But the Titans

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Speaker 1: have the Cowboys tonight where Dallas has played very very

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Speaker 1: well at home in Jerry World, and then the Patriots

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Speaker 1: next week. I wouldn't mind seeing the Titans be three

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Speaker 1: and six, saying, hey, a couple reminders. Mattress Firm, the

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Speaker 1: official Mattress retailer of the Houston Texans, and when the

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Speaker 1: Texans win, they did yesterday. You win and a mattress

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Speaker 1: so you can actually do Toros mathrils when the Texans

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Speaker 1: on that, but I think you do. So here we go.

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Speaker 1: Let's finish up with our friend Spencer Tillman. And one

665
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Speaker 1: of the things I want to know from Spencer having

666
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: played for the Oilers then being traded to San Francisco,

667
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Speaker 1: what's that like when you see the other team on

668
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Speaker 1: the other sideline? Look, what's that feeling? What was the

669
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Speaker 1: Mary's Thomas going through on Sunday? Spencers about the only

670
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Speaker 1: guy that could give us that insight, and he did here.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think? What was your reaction to

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00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: the way it played out at the end. Well, there's

673
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about there, but first I'm gonna

674
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Speaker 1: give him a reaction to your ifs and butts conversation.

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00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: It reminded me of the late Milttle Hamilton's commentary. He

676
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: also used to say, well, if it's and butts were

677
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: candy and nuts, everybody would be Christmas. And what all

678
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: of us can come up with the scenario where you know,

679
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: if Sharie Wright didn't defend the past against Courtland Sutton

680
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: in the end zone and the three point difference or

681
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: the miss extra point or the field goal attempt. Whatever. Yeah,

682
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: we can always come up with an if or butt scenario.

683
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: And there's about twelve of those scenarios that we can

684
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: come up with, and that kind of makes the game

685
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: fun in some ways. But you know, sometimes you just

686
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: want to reduce that all the way and say, hey,

687
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: we just got to win. It was not the greatest

688
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: of production offensively and even some shotty tackling late down

689
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: the stretch, but the bottom lineage you won, So that

690
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: was the cool part of it. It was. It was interesting.

691
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: I was waking up working my way back down from

692
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Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest and had some time in Denver, so

693
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: I got a chance to stay for a while and

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00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: then then head back to Houston. But it was just fun,

695
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: guys to see them deal with this success in a

696
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: positive way for me, because it's very rare to do that,

697
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: and not everybody runs well with a full cup of success,

698
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: and for six straight games now the Texans have and

699
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: it's just good to see folks stepping up like Cheri's

700
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: wide for example, when the number of calls, so it's

701
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: from been fun. Hey, Spencer, ask you this, because you

702
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 1: played for the Niners, you played for the Oilers. Did

703
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: you ever play did you ever play your former team?

704
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: And I ask you that because Damarius Thomas had to

705
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: do that within five days of being traded, and I

706
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: can't even imagine what was going through his mind. And

707
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Speaker 1: I just speak of and ask you that. And you

708
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Speaker 1: played with a lot of players I probably had to

709
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: do that. What's that experience like for a player to

710
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: go play a team that he had an emotional connection

711
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: with for so long, like the Marius did with the

712
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. It was weird. You felt like it was

713
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: a betrayal. When I left Houston and went to say Francisco,

714
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I knew every single call we had. I

715
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: was involved in all phases of our game planning, and

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00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: so I knew what we were doing. I was calling

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00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: out signals. You know. It was frustrating watching Frank and

718
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: Novak and some of the other coaches that were on

719
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 1: the sidelines. M Jeff Fisher wasn't there yet, but coach

720
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: Party and others. It was just Really it's a conflicting situation.

721
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: And when I my sun time was run to the

722
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Speaker 1: to the to the locker room the way that he did.

723
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Speaker 1: People don't understand what that's about. They think that maybe

724
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: you stay there and maybe share the experience, but you're

725
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: in conflict. You don't know what they had to do.

726
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: You feel like you know all of your emotion and

727
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: your time and is vested in that place, you know,

728
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: since it's it's just a very odd position to be in.

729
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: But yeah, I've been there before a number of times.

730
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Speaker 1: The probably the one that I remember most is when

731
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Speaker 1: I left here with the Houston Oils and went to

732
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 1: San Francisco at the forty nine Ers. I knew every

733
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Speaker 1: single play we had, and I was in the wheelhouse

734
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Speaker 1: from the sidelines with all that intel. Spencer Tillbman joining

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Speaker 1: us on Texans Monday. All right, so what about Deshaun Watson.

736
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Speaker 1: I brought this up with Andre and I think it's

737
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: very notable that the passing attempts of god Down twenty four,

738
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: twenty four, and twenty in the last three games, and

739
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: the sacks of god Down. I know they had four

740
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: sacks yesterday but no turnovers in the last three games

741
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Speaker 1: they're running the football. What do you make of the formula?

742
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: I think it works. I mean I think it was

743
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: You have to ask the question was it by design

744
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: or was it an unintended consequence that was positive in

745
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: some ways the injury. It's never good to get injured,

746
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: but it forced the hand of Bill O'Brien and of

747
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: course Deshaun Watson to start to heighten his awareness of

748
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: the need to take care of himself. And so I

749
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: think that is a good thing that comes out of

750
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Speaker 1: all of this. And so the formula for what constitutes

751
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: balance has changed, and it should be able to change.

752
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: And I think through game planning an understanding that the

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00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: context of the situation, injury status, where you are in

754
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: the season, where you are relative to what your offensive

755
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: line is from a health standpoint, all of that stuff

756
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: goes into a big pot and you come out with

757
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: the game plan or philosophy or approach. I see it

758
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: happen all the time, and the teams that are able

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00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: to adapt are the ones that succeed. The ones that

760
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: don't they die. You either adapt or you die. That's

761
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: the bottom line. A lot of coaches try to shoehorn

762
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: athletes into a system or an approach, and the fact

763
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: of the matter is their whole context or ability to

764
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: execute what they have in their mind, is their identity

765
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: totally changes. I see it happen all the time at

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Speaker 1: the college level. You know, Oregon thought that they were

767
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: power team. But if you look at them on tapes

768
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: or you're not power your pin and pool, you're doing

769
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: some of these other things, and all of a sudden

770
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: you look up, why you're not that is because you

771
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: lost your starting left tackle, you lost your other right guard.

772
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: Now your center's playing tackle and he's not athletic enough

773
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: to play that. You're a mismatch. You you're totally something

774
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: different than what you were, and you've got an identity crisis.

775
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: And they found it a little bit did Oregon this

776
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: past weekend against a struggling UCLA team, But the same

777
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: thing happens at the NFL level all the time, guys.

778
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: But I think Opie has found the balance now they

779
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: kind of understand who they are. And I think another

780
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,479
Speaker 1: positive that's come out of all of this is Lamar

781
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: Miller is not taking the beating that he has. You know,

782
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: Alfred Blue is taking a nice swap out of that

783
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: workload that he's had, it's going to spell him a lot.

784
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: And that's another valuable lesson that they've learned through the

785
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: process as well. Spencer going into the bye week, getting

786
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: that win in the bye week. We just talked to

787
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: Andrea a little while ago. He's not a big fan

788
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 1: of the bye weeks. What do you think about having

789
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: a bye week, especially with a few guys banged up

790
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: and you go in with a six game winning streak.

791
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: How do you feel about this bye week? I think

792
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: both Mark and I are a little bit conflicted because

793
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: we'd like to stay in this role, but we can

794
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: use a week off. What do you think about it? Well,

795
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: that's always the conundrum. You know, when nobody likes to

796
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: stop success, they can get addictive. You know. I don't

797
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: know if you guys remember the old Robert Palmer addicted

798
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: to love. You know, this is winning is addictive, man,

799
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: It really, it really is addictive. And so that part

800
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: of it you don't want to stop. But the fact

801
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: that you've got some guys that need to heal is

802
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: a good thing. And I think the maturity balance of

803
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: this ball club is such that guys are going to

804
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: police themselves. They're going to do the right thing. The

805
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: room is going to sustain them beyond the time. If

806
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: they get a couple of days off to kind of

807
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: steal away a little bit, I think they'll do the

808
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: right thing and be smart about that, eat properly and

809
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: so forth and so on. So ultimately you'll know in

810
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: about you know, four or five days, how guys are

811
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: taking care of themselves, and you start to sit back

812
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: into the routine. It'll be fun to see how they respond.

813
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: And to me, that's when you learn the most about someone.

814
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: It's after a prolonged period of either success. More often

815
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: you learn more after a period of failure what kind

816
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: of character you actually have. And so that part of

817
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: it will be fun and revealing. All right, This morning

818
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: sub debate our college football games too long. I think

819
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: they have too many snaps in them. I think the

820
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: clock needs to run more like an NFL clock, maybe

821
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Speaker 1: not exactly like an NFL clock. I'm in favor of

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00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: stopping it on first dance, on the final two minutes

823
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: of the game or the half or whatever. What are

824
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that subject. Yeah, that's an interesting deal.

825
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: I would I would probably reverse engineered and say that

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00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 1: the college game, more so than the progame is has

827
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: disparities in talent. You know, they try to project that

828
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't, but all conferences are not created equal. That's

829
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: the reason why the wrestle and the debate every single

830
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: week once the college football standings come out is so robust.

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Speaker 1: Outside of the top three or four perennial powers that

832
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: are up there, it really is a slew of mismash

833
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: out there. So the disparity and talent is greater, and

834
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: teams can actually manufacture wins much greater at the college

835
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: level because of the psychological place where the players are

836
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: from week to week. You see it happen with an

837
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: Arizona destroying on the Oregon You see it happen historically speaking,

838
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: big picture, an appleesching state going to be to Michigan.

839
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: How does that happen? Well, the emotional state of players

840
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: are totally different. So I think that the fact that

841
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: there are more opportunities to win and with different tactics

842
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: at the college level, the game is going to be

843
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: longer as a result of that. So it's more of

844
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: a strategy approach. So for me, I'm not bothered by

845
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: the long games. I know that from a monetary standpoint,

846
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: it can be problematic for networks and colleges and foot

847
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: fan viewing. I think it can be before an analyst.

848
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: I love the matchups. I love to talk about why

849
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: people are doing what they do. Spencer, what do you

850
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: have this week? Well, I'm globby for this one. We

851
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,959
Speaker 1: got Texas and Texas Tech, and I love it because

852
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: it's a consequential game. It's a crucial game for both

853
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: these head coaches. You know, Cliff Kingsbury and Coach Herman

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Speaker 1: have come off some tough losses guide and we know

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Speaker 1: how the Texas Faithfulard and Cliff situation is always going

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Speaker 1: to be tenuous. Both those guys are in a tough

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Speaker 1: spot right now. So that game is going to be

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Speaker 1: one that matters a bunch. Oh that's a big one.

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Speaker 1: But both teams are dealing with a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a quarterback situation with injuries. Alan Bowman a Texas Tech side,

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Speaker 1: Sam Aliger on the Texas side. We'll see how it

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Speaker 1: impacts that game that Spencer will be calling this weekend. Well,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys being here coming off a hard, pounding,

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Speaker 1: just nerve wracking game like yesterday, but the Texas are

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Speaker 1: six and three. Think about how you felt on this

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Speaker 1: Monday six weeks ago, and how you feel now. It's

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Speaker 1: not done. There's seven games left, but a bye week

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Speaker 1: is good. Players get some restie relaxation, the coaches to

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Speaker 1: step back a little bit, do some self scout, and

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Speaker 1: for the rest of us to just take a breath

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Speaker 1: and get ready for the final stretch. Appreciate you guys

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Speaker 1: being here. Thank you so much, and as always, go Texans.