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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast does workout videos in their

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Speaker 1: under pads. Welcome to another edition of the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. That's true. I'll let you guess who it is.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan hansis coming to you from a

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Speaker 1: virtual room filled with some heroes, Greg Roseatal and yes

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Speaker 1: that man Mark Sesler. What's up? Boys? What a day?

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Speaker 1: You know? We came on and Mark gave me that

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Speaker 1: kind of like whoa, we had some games today, you know,

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Speaker 1: not even on the show. So that that's when you

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Speaker 1: know it's a good day. Game. It felt like an

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Speaker 1: epically long day. And I don't mean that in a

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Speaker 1: negative way, just there was just um a flock of

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Speaker 1: games that to the very end, right And last night

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Speaker 1: it was Halloween and we in our house, we tried

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Speaker 1: very hard to give the boys a nice Halloween. And

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Speaker 1: we have a you know, I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people have this. They have a little cluster of people

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Speaker 1: that are in the trust circle, the COVID Trust circle,

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Speaker 1: and and we have two other families with kids, so

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Speaker 1: they all came over the house and you know, Daddy's

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Speaker 1: gonna get a little loose in that situation. It's been

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Speaker 1: a long year. So when daddy gets loose, uh, and

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Speaker 1: then you have an NFL Sunday. I'll put it this way.

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Speaker 1: When we started this podcast in the bounce back was

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Speaker 1: easier than it is in after marriage age progression, COVID

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Speaker 1: nineteen pandemic, two children. But I'm a warrior. You are right,

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Speaker 1: but I and I normally don't like to bring this up.

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Speaker 1: But I'm about six and a half seven years older

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Speaker 1: than the two of you, and so, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I would just offer that it's seven years, seven years, Um,

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Speaker 1: less fun to recover from things like that, and just

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Speaker 1: even staying up late, you know. Um. We're here though,

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Speaker 1: and we're all five and that's a beautiful thing. Um.

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Speaker 1: And why is it always the same teams that the

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Speaker 1: heartbreak happens too? Why does it? We're gonna get to it.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to all the games in week eight,

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Speaker 1: as we reached the midway ish point of another regular season.

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Speaker 1: We'll go through every game, but let's start with the

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Speaker 1: Premier A f C matchup of the afternoon. And here's

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Speaker 1: the snap. He's back steps out, fires for the goal

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Speaker 1: line in the passage, broke it up at the goal line,

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Speaker 1: and that is terrific. Drop by the Steelers secondary to

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Speaker 1: close in on Willie Snead the fourth the ball game

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Speaker 1: is over Bill Hillgrove and touch Ilkin with the called

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Speaker 1: w d v E Lamar Jackson and he has not

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Speaker 1: had the magic this year. The reigning m VPS final

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Speaker 1: pass this time expired, fell incomplete, and the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 1: C North greg This Dealers defense was too much for

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Speaker 1: Lamar and they were They're a defense that has so

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Speaker 1: many great players that on a day where they got

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Speaker 1: in a game that they really shouldn't. And and I

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Speaker 1: hate starting with Lamar because he did make a number

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Speaker 1: of spectacular plays in this game too, so that there

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Speaker 1: were positives and the Ravens offense at times look better

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Speaker 1: They forced a three and out and then we listened,

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Speaker 1: not just to fall two games back, but to lose

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Speaker 1: So I don't want to put all the focus on Lamar,

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Speaker 1: a big story around Baltimore. Yeah, and it's relative. I

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Speaker 1: close games. It's been a strange season. They also have

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Speaker 1: you know, some people getting upset. Hollywood Brown. I don't

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Speaker 1: never double exclamation point? Yeah, the double slimmer is what

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Speaker 1: trade deadline. This was a classic though, thanks for the

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Speaker 1: be he can be upset though they'll they'll figure it out.

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Speaker 1: But there was like there was five force humbles in

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Speaker 1: asking for them to be tangibly more dangerous than they

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Speaker 1: watching Lamar Jackson every week with literally no antidote on

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Speaker 1: the game. The officials a little bit of a glory

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Speaker 1: let's talk about it. Will Lutz went straight down the

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Speaker 1: empty Soldier Field. These empty stadiums, and I know there's

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Speaker 1: I'm never gonna get used to it. The Bears wiped

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Speaker 1: out a ten point deficit in the second half, a

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Speaker 1: a huge lead, right. The thing that's crazy is it's

429
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 1: not like the offense collapse. There was that helmet catch interception,

430
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Speaker 1: which was you know, a little lucky, but a nice

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Speaker 1: played by Bryce Collen, and then Um Herbert went field

432
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Speaker 1: goal field goal and took some time off the clock.

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Speaker 1: The only reason why the Chargers won is because these

434
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Speaker 1: drives partly were so quick. They had a who plays

435
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 1: sixty yard drive that took twenties seven seconds with like

436
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: a blown coverage in the secondary. The Charges look so awesome.

437
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: They're healthier on defense. They have Melvin Inger back, they're

438
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Speaker 1: different within him. They have Justin Jones back. They were

439
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 1: dominant and I'm thinking, Wow, this Charger's team could be something. Uh.

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00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: And then when this happens, Dan, I did ask for

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Speaker 1: the money. Uh in DJ call of the handler touch

442
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: I have not heard it yet, so well, let's see

443
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Speaker 1: if it's good. But let's let's hear it, Ricky and well,

444
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: here it is. This is the game. One second left,

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Speaker 1: get in and it will be tied. Lock in the

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00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: shotgun board in the backfield. Fakes the handoff, rolling to

447
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: his right, lock still looking throze caught incomplete, incomplete. He

448
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: was out of bones. And now the referees discussing it.

449
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: Signal on the field is incomplete. Now they say touchdown.

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00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: After a discussion they say touchdown. J J Hamdler, Boy,

451
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: the Chargers have found ways to lose games this season,

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Speaker 1: but this is gonna be the most painful of them all.

453
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Speaker 1: In more ways? Can money you know, have to describe

454
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 1: these This was it though, this was another level. They

455
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: at least the other ones were against good teams and

456
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: they blew the leads earlier. This was next level, a

457
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: division opponent of everything. I've gotten to know Money over

458
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Speaker 1: the past couple of years doing the Power Ranking Show

459
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: with him, and he's like other guys that work in

460
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: the broadcast boost of these teams. They're not homers. But

461
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: also it's just a better gig when the team's winning

462
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,479
Speaker 1: because you're around the team so much, and you know,

463
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Speaker 1: you're kind of part of the whole adventure. Uh So,

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Speaker 1: you know, Money and DJ they're going through that loss too,

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Speaker 1: and the and the wreckage that comes from it. It

466
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Speaker 1: is just a tough situation. We'll give the final word

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Speaker 1: to linebacker Drew Trankle, who didn't play in this game

468
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Speaker 1: with an injury, but he tweeted, insanity is doing the

469
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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Speaker 1: Stick with us. We will turn the tide. M charges.

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Speaker 1: Fans have been hearing that for about fifty years. Let's

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Speaker 1: move on and take the shotgun. Shamp takes it, gonna

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Speaker 1: keep it in, run with it. Left side gets good

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Speaker 1: yardage inside the fifth ball comes out, loose ball. Who's

475
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Speaker 1: got it? The Bills may have it. It is Buffalo

476
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Speaker 1: ball Cam Newton fumble that the twelve yard line and

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Speaker 1: the Bills recovered. Mckmarlow on the bottom of the pile

478
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Speaker 1: comes up of the football. That is the game. Got

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Speaker 1: the strip, I believe, and the Bills come up with

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Speaker 1: the football with thirty one seconds left. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasker with the call from w

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Speaker 1: g R. And yes, Ricky being the intrepid producer that

483
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Speaker 1: she has also did pull the Zolac call. But again,

484
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Speaker 1: Zolac is basically incapacitated now during Patriots games. He was

485
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Speaker 1: silent on that Cam Newton play squeeze it cam. The

486
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: Patriots were driving for the go ahead score in the

487
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Speaker 1: final minutes against the Bills, but Buffalo separated Newton from

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Speaker 1: the football and fell on the fumble to clinch. At

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Speaker 1: Orchard Park, Buffalo snapped a seven game losing streak to

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, just barely locking enough for the old Juson Bubbley.

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Speaker 1: Nice Mark, How are we feeling about the Bills after

492
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Speaker 1: this one? They're kind of a tough team to peg

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Speaker 1: right now. I don't feel a whole lot better about them. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think if there, if you want to shine a

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00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: positive light on their offense. Uh, their running game came

496
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Speaker 1: to life with Zack Moss and Devin Singletary Josh Allen.

497
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: The three of them combined for other over two hundred

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Speaker 1: yards on the ground. Weather was a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a factor in this one. But I look at these

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Speaker 1: two teams is sort of uh, which I wouldn't have

501
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: said this a month ago. Is almost mirrors on offense,

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Speaker 1: save for the fact that New England lacks uh wide

503
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Speaker 1: receivers that anyone's heard of or who are reliable. I

504
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: mean you you you've got a little more star power

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Speaker 1: and Buffalo. But Cam Newton and the Patriots fought so

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Speaker 1: hard in this game. They came into it with one

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Speaker 1: tight end, Ryan Izzo one and this is a team

508
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Speaker 1: that would probably like to use three if they had

509
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Speaker 1: them half the time. And they in the second half

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Speaker 1: they really imposed their well on bum Buffalo. It's their defense.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's defense has me a little more concerned. Uh. Demir

512
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Speaker 1: Bird made a couple of plays with Cam Damien Harris

513
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: was ripping through them, and I really thought that they

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Speaker 1: were heading to win this game, and then the Cam

515
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Speaker 1: fumble happened, and it's just like it's an excruciating um

516
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Speaker 1: club to watch because there are no namers on offense,

517
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Speaker 1: which makes me kind of enjoy them more or or

518
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Speaker 1: root for them more from an underdog nature. But Buffalo

519
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 1: took care of business. But I come out of it, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm just I'm I'm suspicious of Buffalo. I

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Speaker 1: I don't trust them to really be the offense they

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Speaker 1: were earlier in the year. They just looked very different

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Speaker 1: to me. But they're a classic team to me that's

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Speaker 1: six and two and just has to be happy they're

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Speaker 1: six and two, that they have the components to be

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Speaker 1: better because we've seen it to be the offense. They

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Speaker 1: were closer in September than October. If they play like this,

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Speaker 1: you know they're gonna lose early in the playoffs. If

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Speaker 1: if they make it. I mean, Sean McDermot had a

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Speaker 1: quote after the game that said, you know, this win

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Speaker 1: made him emotional that he tries to go through it

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Speaker 1: one day, one day at a time, process process. But

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Speaker 1: we know what this means to our franchise. We wish

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Speaker 1: they could have, you know, in our fan base like

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Speaker 1: what that we we've been building to this. You know,

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Speaker 1: for myself, it's like a validation. It's emotional win for

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Speaker 1: the entire city, and it's like, okay, but you got

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Speaker 1: But they need to be a lot better than they

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Speaker 1: are right now because you're just gonna be a first

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Speaker 1: round loser in the places I think they can be,

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Speaker 1: Like they have the pieces to be better on defense

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Speaker 1: and offense, and they've played. But it's been about a

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Speaker 1: month now for the Bills. Yeah, they lost their starting center.

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00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: I don't like that for them. Mitch Morse, well to

545
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: see what goes on with that. But I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I like it's in terms of a transformative victory. Uh,

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00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 1: it was just sort of like they hung on and

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Speaker 1: got out of here with a win. Well as some

549
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: of that's had a front row seat for the a

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Speaker 1: f C East and the worst way for the last

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Speaker 1: couple of decades, I think it is a very notable win.

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00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: Um and the fact that the Bills, according to what

553
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: you're saying, Mark, did not play very well and still

554
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: beat the Patriots. Things. Things have changed in this division,

555
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: and it was something that people that despise the Patriots

556
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Speaker 1: or were just sick of the page Riots waited for

557
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: for years and years and years, but it has happened.

558
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: It's the changing of the guard. And I don't know.

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00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: The only thing that I don't know, and I think

560
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: it's unclear, is like, is this now the Bills Division

561
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Speaker 1: where it's gonna be their realm for a couple of

562
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Speaker 1: years or do they have enough problems where And I

563
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Speaker 1: don't think we should be crowning anybody, uh in that

564
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: division right now, but they have surpassed the Patriots as

565
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: the as the better better team in this division, and

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Speaker 1: they have things to work out. But the fact that

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Speaker 1: New England is basically now just faded from the picture

568
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: on a four game losing streak is notable. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's what I take out of this game that

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Speaker 1: once again when the Patriots lose and they're now in

571
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Speaker 1: an extended losing streak in the head coach, the legendary

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Speaker 1: head coach Bill Belichick, when he's at the zoom podium,

573
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Speaker 1: he's answering questions week after week about who's starting quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Is gonna be like this is all stuff that just

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Speaker 1: wasn't happening for decades, And I think it's just notable

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Speaker 1: that's where we are now. Well, that's why I think

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Speaker 1: if you know your Belichick or Cam Newton, that's why

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00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: that fumbles such a killer because this really was their chance.

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Speaker 1: They're they're in field goal range. They have the Jets

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Speaker 1: next week. In theory, there's a route to go for

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Speaker 1: and for. There's a lot of tough games at the schedter.

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Speaker 1: This team does not in any way look like um

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Speaker 1: a contender. But if they win this game, it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: it's just the Bills, the Dolphins and them, and someone's

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Speaker 1: got to get in and so that's devastating. They've had

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Speaker 1: these moral victories like, well, if Cam was healthy against

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00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: Kansas City, what a defensive performance. If Cam, you know,

588
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: gets one extra yard in Seattle, they get a win.

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Speaker 1: If this is another game where they had But it's

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Speaker 1: not happening for them, and there's not really a big

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Speaker 1: reason to think talent wise, they're going to recover. Gilmore

592
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: was out for this game. Julian Edelman is on injured reserve,

593
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Speaker 1: Umickson got hurt. It's not like there's people coming that's

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Speaker 1: that's coming to save them. I think the difference between

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Speaker 1: the two teams is the front office right now, Frank,

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00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: I mean Buffalo, you know, they're their front office and

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Speaker 1: they're coaching staff in Unison, and I know, you know,

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Speaker 1: Belichick I'm a career wise is up there with Asie

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00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: Knew some but you'd have to look at the way

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00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: this team is constructed around Cam Newton and say, how

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Speaker 1: is any quarterback going to come out of this season

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Speaker 1: with five wins? M hm. You wonder if Gilmore was

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00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: sat as a precaution if they are planning to make

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Speaker 1: a trade as well with the deadline coming up in

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Speaker 1: a couple of days. Uh And one last note and

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00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: we'll you know, study the Bills more um in the

607
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: weeks ahead. But Josh Allen, the first four games, he

608
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: was a leader in the m v P race. He

609
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: had completion percentage averaging three thirty yards per game through

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Speaker 1: the air, twelve touchdowns, one pick, passer rating of one.

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Speaker 1: The last four games, the completion percentages down almost ten points.

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Speaker 1: He's down to two d eleven point five yards per game,

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Speaker 1: four touchdowns in four games passing and a passerrating a

614
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: sub eighties. So he has kind of regressed in the

615
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: last four weeks. Back to this being this enigmatic guy

616
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Speaker 1: that nobody really knows, um what to make of him.

617
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: So that is to me one of the big storylines

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Speaker 1: in the second half of the season. In the A

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Speaker 1: f C is like, how does Josh Allen close this season?

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Speaker 1: Where are we going to finish up? How are we

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Speaker 1: going to see him when the dust settles. Let's move on.

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Speaker 1: Car takes a snap, looks in that direction, fires the Rentfro.

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Speaker 1: Rend Fro's got out of the end. So Rentfro with

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00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: a touchdown that puts the Writers ahead here in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Playing in miserable weather condition, says Brent Musburger.

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Speaker 1: Of course do I even have to say k r

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Speaker 1: l v uh playing miserable weather conditions? Derek Carr through

628
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: just one touchdown pass well won the counter anyway, but

629
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Speaker 1: it was enough. In the sixteen six win over the

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Speaker 1: Browns in Cleveland, rain, sleet, howling wind, uh whipping round

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Speaker 1: at thirty five miles per hour joke, Um, And obviously

632
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: that's gonna inform the pace of play. The brown said

633
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: five drops in this game, the weather played a role.

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00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure with that. Not to take any any excuses,

635
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: um and the Raiders used they were just more physical

636
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: than the Browns in this game. This was like a

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00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: it should have been playing to the Browns favor. They're

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00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: the they're at home, they're the the rugged A f

639
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: C North team, but it was the Raiders who ran

640
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: the ball with authority, um, including Josh Jacobs who had

641
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: a hundred yards and thirty one carries. That's the most

642
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: rushes for Raiders running back since two thousand seven. And

643
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: they they just hit harder to play the game was

644
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: slot cornerback LaMarcus Joyner, who laid a clean, punishing hit

645
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: right into the back of Jarvis Landry, was already playing

646
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: with bad ribs to save a touchdown in the final

647
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: minutes and essentially take the drama out of the game

648
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: after a missed field goal shortly thereafter. Um. So good

649
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: on the Raiders for another nice road win. And I

650
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: was texting with Mark Um and we're both on the

651
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: same page here at the the Browns are just okay.

652
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: It seems like they're some They're capable of having good

653
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: weeks like we saw last week, and they're capable of

654
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: having weeks like this, So you don't really know what

655
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna get week to week, and this was a

656
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: bad week. Yeah. I mean, I was watching this on

657
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: the side and I think this is a Cleveland team

658
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: that you can kind of tell pretty early into the

659
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: game whether they're not they're in their flow because when

660
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: they have been they've been pretty dynamic on offense. Um,

661
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: this was I can't remember too many Browns games where

662
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: Mother Nature wreaked as much havoc to your point, and

663
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: it was like, look at you. You don't have a

664
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: leading receiver for Las Vegas with more than twenty eight yards.

665
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: Cleveland wasn't far from that themselves. There were hideous drops

666
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: Dave and Joe who had one of the I mean,

667
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: you know this is trade bait and you're not helping

668
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: yourself get traded or helping yourself acclimate to a new

669
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: coaching staff in Cleveland with some of his play. Um,

670
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: I think they really miss Wyatt Teller. I think they

671
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: really miss Nick Chubb, who would have been This would

672
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: have been a perfect Nick Chubb kind of even. I

673
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: love Kareem Hunt is a wonderful back, but Nick Chubb

674
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: brings something a little bit different than Kareem Hunt. And

675
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: you know you're missing Austin Hooper. Myles Garrett was out

676
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: for part of this, but no excuses because both teams

677
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: were dealing with totally chaotic weather and the Raiders were

678
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: tougher right. They Raiders found out Sunday that Trent Brown

679
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: couldn't play. They're right, they're great right tackle because of

680
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: a mistake in what was it an injection that Tyrade

681
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: this is crazy situation and he had to go to

682
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: the hospital. He's kind of air in his I V.

683
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: Which is a very dangerous situation. So I I think,

684
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: and this is I guess even more true because Brown

685
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: wasn't there that it has to be disappointed for the

686
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: Browns because of what Dan said that kind of like

687
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: their identity is their offensive line and um kind of

688
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: being a tough, hard nosed running team, and the Raiders

689
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: were better at that. And that's that's to me, that's

690
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: the Raiders identity to I don't think people think about

691
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: them that ways how I think about them. And it

692
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: was a game at seventy in terms of plays, so

693
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: the Raiders kind of controlled that. And I give the

694
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: Raiders a lot of credit at four and three because

695
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: they have had the hardest schedule in the NFL. Um

696
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: according to their opponents like winning percentage and their four

697
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: and three they really are a good four and three team.

698
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: And you know they obviously they didn't play very well

699
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: last week against the Bucks, but everybody that catches the

700
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: Bucks right now is catching hell. But they've sandwiched that

701
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: loss with the win and Arrowhead and then this nice

702
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: win in a tough situation in Cleveland. UM, so good

703
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: on them and bad job by the refs that was.

704
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: This game had three touchdowns that were um led to

705
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 1: reviews and two of the three were overcalled overturned. Henry

706
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: Ruggs had a touchdown catch where they had a freeze

707
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: frame on the telecast showing probably about it two inches.

708
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: You see blades of grass between the end zone green

709
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: and then the white out of bounds uh boundary, and

710
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: they kept a call in the field ruling it that

711
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: it was not a touchdown like that cannot it cannot

712
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: happen with the technology that we have in the league.

713
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: But the what's at stake on a week to week

714
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: basis in our league. I I just was blown away

715
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: that that call didn't result in a touchdown, absolutely, And

716
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 1: I didn't love the Landry one either. I I can

717
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: there's a reason you can make a case for the

718
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: Landry one not being a catch, and and that's fine,

719
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: but that's that's different because they didn't have the angle

720
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: on it. You could see the ball starting to move,

721
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: but there was no Zapruder film angle to say, okay,

722
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: it definitely was incomplete. The rugs one was, I don't

723
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: know what somebody's got to answer questions in the New

724
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: York office after that. I don't know what else to

725
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: be said. Myles Garrett was limited in this game. He

726
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: was hell, he was basically a specialist pass rushing specialist,

727
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: and he's getting an m R I on his knee.

728
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: So that is the last thing you want to hear

729
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: because he's obviously the heart and soul of that Brown's defense.

730
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, the Cream Hunt thing, I was my last

731
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: thought in the game when Chubb was there and Hunt

732
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: was there. That was because make one of the big

733
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: stories in the NFL, like they have an identity. I

734
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: have a two headed monster. And then even when Chub

735
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: got hurt, it's like you still have a former rushing champion.

736
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: And Hunt hasn't quite played out the way I think

737
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people expected. And I know there are

738
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: some challenges with the offensive line injuries and and Baker

739
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: and the Odell injury, but he Hunt has not really

740
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: taken the ball and run with it, uh to use.

741
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he's attempted to run with it to take

742
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: the ball and run with it. It's not always work

743
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: to perfection. Yes, all right, let's move on. Grows back inside,

744
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: Paul is caught. It's bed Cap who makes one man? Now?

745
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: Two man miss? Twenty turk up failed, They don't touch him? Touchdown, Shayhawks.

746
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: How in the world did he tiptoe up the sidelines,

747
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: two defenders breaking on him and nobody touched him? All Yeah,

748
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: k deserves the cong music this week. Oh man. Dk

749
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: Meca has that career highs with twelve catches, hundred and

750
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 1: sixty one yards, two touchdowns, including that unbelievable touchdown uh

751
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: at the end of the first quarter that only a

752
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: few guys in the league can do. When you can

753
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: turn the corner, you know, evades and tacklers, and then

754
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: when everyone else goes out of bounds, he just has

755
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 1: these afterburners and he just gets the final twenty yards

756
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. He's unbelievable. Anyway. He led the way

757
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks in the thirty seven seven romp of

758
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: the Niners at the clink Mark San Francisco. Had some

759
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: did some cosmetic work here to make it look better,

760
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: but this game is all Seahawks. Yeah, and it's it's

761
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: it's tough when you're covering like games with DK Metcalf

762
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: because he does something and you're like, how can I

763
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: continue to describe what this player is doing in a tweet?

764
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: UM to do him justice. I am so impressed with

765
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: he has. He had his six and seven touchdowns touchdowns

766
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: of the season, and the second one was this incredible

767
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: show of fire in might where he ripped the ball

768
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: away from in a one on one match up with

769
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Moseley and he's just strung. He's just like a

770
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: physical being UM that is gonna kill people in matchups.

771
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: You just can't deal with him and he speed. The

772
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: first touchdown was this incredible dance down the sideline, which

773
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: we listened to UM at the top of this segment.

774
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: I think he's a fascinating player. And it's like, whether

775
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: it's him or Tyler Lockett week to week, UM, you

776
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: can't really double. You can't spend all along doubling either

777
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: one of them because the other will fry you. And

778
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: so it's a pick your poison. And I think that

779
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: probably the Seahawks listened to UM people like me that

780
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: if they're I'm not claiming that they're listening to me,

781
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: but statements, you know, probably they have it hardwired into

782
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: their complex, but you know, saying that, you know that

783
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan is going to do a better job than

784
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: any coach in the league around injuries and um my

785
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,959
Speaker 1: whole kylhand Shanahan thing, but the bow, this whole mark

786
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: don't don't put it on yourself. This whole podcast was

787
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: drinking the Niners kool aid on Thursday afternoon when we

788
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: recorded our preview show and the Seahawks made a little

789
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: bit of a statement. Yeah, I think they did, and

790
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: it's it was an anti um Shanahan game because there's

791
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: just two they're two banged up on some level, and

792
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: it's they're not the only team in that situation. But

793
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: just uh, this was the game where they ran for

794
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: two point four yards per carry, fifty two yards. Jimmy

795
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: G who you know, and there's there there is gonna

796
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: be a lot of Nick Mullins versus Jimmy G were

797
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: back in that world because of what. I don't take

798
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: that seriously at the end of the game, but Nick

799
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: Mullins just sort of does seem to see the field

800
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: a little bit better and Jimmy G through a terrible

801
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: interception on a on an attempted pass to George Kittle

802
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: in this that caused things to get out of hand

803
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: early on, and I feel like they just have to

804
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: play around him and and organize the offense in a

805
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: way where he's given such safe throws and it's just

806
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: not the Jimmy g that I know from before. And

807
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 1: the other thing that you know, we all like Fred Warner,

808
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: and I think Gregg it was you saying that this

809
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: might be the game where Bobby Wagner maybe takes, uh

810
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: just a little bit of a step down. Bobby Wagner

811
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: was a picture of utter dominance. He was, Yeah, I

812
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: think he was. I mean he was just All the

813
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: Seahawks pieces that we trust came came today and they

814
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: totally they shined as a group. Um. The defense too,

815
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: I think they kind of said, look at we can

816
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: we can handle our business. I mean, this was not

817
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: this is not go the way that I expected on

818
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 1: any level. Robably had a big game on defense that

819
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: they've been waiting all and again what happened in the

820
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: fourth quarter when the game was already well decided might

821
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: cloud this for some people, but this is to me

822
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: the first game where the defense played an active role

823
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: in them winning. So this is and you have Jamal

824
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: Adams actually returned to practice this week, so that's a

825
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: big guy that could re rented. Re entering the picture,

826
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: Carlos dunlops in the fold. Now like there, I think

827
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: this is a highly encouraging win for Seattle. Right. There's

828
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: that Kevin Clark tweet that always gets retweeted that the

829
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: Seahawks never play a normal This was a normal game.

830
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: They went out there and they they took care of

831
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: business and they put one on them. And yeah, a

832
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: lot of Seahawks fans I I did not watch this game,

833
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: but a lot of Seahawks fans in my mentions bringing

834
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: up that whole Wagner Warner thing. Warner's that giving up

835
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: that Wagoners not given up that belt. I mean, there's

836
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: no argument to me that Warner has been the best

837
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: middle linebacker in the league the first seven weeks of

838
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: the season. Um, but Wagner's line today, I think he's

839
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: got four QB hits, like three tackles for the last

840
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: couple of seconds. I mean he uh, he put one

841
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: on him and and that's right there, and that them

842
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: having the defensive type of game and It reminds me.

843
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: Division games are just different. You know. It's like, I

844
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: think the Patriots match up well with the Bills, and

845
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: they know the Bills, they know how to beat Like

846
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: that's why they partly even a beat up Patriots team

847
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: are in that game. Uh, division games are different. These

848
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: teams know each other well. The Steelers Ravens like what

849
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: we've seen that. I think it can sometimes. Um, some

850
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: matchups just are closer than you would expect. And right now,

851
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: I think Seattle does. I know they had their troubles

852
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: at points last year with San Francisco, but they know

853
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: how to handle a Kyle Shanahan offense right. And this

854
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: is a rough road ahead for San Francisco because they're

855
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 1: fourmed for they have to play the Packers on Thursday night.

856
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: George Kittle was hurting this and obviously Jimmy g was hurt.

857
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman went out. Um, Fred Warner was banged up

858
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: at one point but came back in. I mean, they

859
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: have thirteen players on i R. So it's uh, it's

860
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: not an easy job. The forty Niners are a power

861
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: rankings nightmare. It is so hard to figure out where

862
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: they belong in the NFL landscape because every time you

863
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: think they've turned a corner, something like this happens, and

864
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: every time you write them off, they deliver a big performance.

865
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: But I think it is Yeah, George Kittle had X

866
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: rays on his ankle after the game. It came back negative,

867
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: but obviously he's hobbled. That's not good. And the Jimmy

868
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: G thing is terrible. That is this. He has a

869
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: high ankle sprain and he's trying to play through it. It

870
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: It might be one of those things where he's not

871
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: right again until March. And if that's the situation, like

872
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: this is just gonna be an issue that's gonna lead

873
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: to struggles for him and problems for the Niners. Because

874
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: we again we were drinking that kool aid and we

875
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: were saying that Shanahan is brilliant at the level that

876
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: almost doesn't matter the players. His scheme is so strong. Well,

877
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: when you take away Jimmy G though that that's the quarterback,

878
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: it's it's anything, and it changes things. And he needed

879
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: to win this game to get to five hundred as

880
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: a head coach. And I totally believe in Kyle Shanahan,

881
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: but that his run in San Francisco has injuries have

882
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: been a big storyline there, and it's you know, it

883
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: gets to the point where he can't overcome it, and

884
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: I and I thought that he would and he didn't.

885
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: I think the big takeaway here, though, gentleman, is that

886
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: our words can control outcomes. And that's what I took

887
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: out of it. Intoxicating put me on the locker room

888
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: on you know what is it? What is it? Bulleboard?

889
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: I can't think of It's like nobody still uses bulletin boards.

890
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: But that like the room Halloween drinking, but I have

891
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: not had a drink in many weeks at this point,

892
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: sadly humble brag. All right, let's move on. My body

893
00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: is a temple. Greg Burrow fakes Barnards into the ends.

894
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: Touchdown down Tyler Boy, the Bengals score in the red

895
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: zone and late at three to seven red zone touchdowns

896
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: on third down, third down touchdowns in the red zone

897
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: or killer show, you know what? Charlie Weis called him

898
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: four point place? Where was it? Michael Lombardy one of

899
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: those jokers? Dan Hord? What's that nothing? Dan Hord? What

900
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: did you really say? What I think he said? Dan Horde?

901
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: Dave Lapham w C k Y with the caller Choberow

902
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: three yards two touchdowns, including that seven yard connection the

903
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: Tyler board in the fourth quarter of a over the Titans.

904
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: How about that Greg We've talked about how since he

905
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: has been competitive with just about everyone this season. On Sunday,

906
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: they were dominant against the good we think they're good

907
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: Titans team. Yeah, they were so good and off offensively,

908
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow right now is one of the one of

909
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: the better qbs in the league. I think at extending

910
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: plays and making plays on his own. Uh. I see

911
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: this game as like a two part um like takeaway

912
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: in that the Bengals offense really is getting better each

913
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: and every week. If you if you, if you watch him,

914
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: you see it. Tee Higgins is so good and he

915
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: made awesome plays for Burrow. Audent tap made him awesome

916
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: plays for Burrow. But he is getting better. The confidence

917
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: is getting there every week, he said after the game.

918
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: I heard his postgame interview, just like, the game's getting

919
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: real slow for me right now. I mean he's feeling himself.

920
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: But I also think in a game where he would

921
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, drop back, I think over thirty five times.

922
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: The fact that the Titans hit him twice with no sacks,

923
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: and they there was a fourth down play where he

924
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: had about fifteen seconds back there. They had four new

925
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: offensive lineman this week the Bengals that got hurt last week,

926
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: and actually I would say he was protected about as

927
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: well as he has been in any game. So that's

928
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: an indictment on the Titans and a great credit to Burrow.

929
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: Well and Zach Taylor said that the offensive line this

930
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: week brought great energy to the overall effort, which is

931
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: just simply not been the case. There were a couple

932
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: of weeks early on where they looked like the worst

933
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: line in football, and they've been injured and all this stuff,

934
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: and it's almost just um been added to the credit

935
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: to Burrow because there was a play today where I

936
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: saw him zig zagging in between like fifteen would be

937
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: tacklers and he's still he escaped it and he and

938
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: he got away for positive yardage on a run. And

939
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: it's like he sees pressure and he sees behind, you know,

940
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: you know, in dark spots where other people cannot and

941
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: that is just gonna make you You're gonna advance as

942
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: a quarterback at double triple to speed. You know what.

943
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: This game looked like it looked like a game between

944
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: two great offenses, and Tannehill throw his worst play of

945
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: the year in the red zone to start the game

946
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: started them off on a bad note, and the Bengals

947
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: just kept scoring. They had eight drives, they scored uh

948
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: thirty one point on five of them, on five of

949
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: the seven drives, and then they put together a five

950
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: and a half minute drive to end the game. Essentially

951
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: to end it. They got a little break on a

952
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: penalty that overturned to pick, but like they dominated that

953
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: the Titans on the other and ran for two seventeen

954
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: after the first quarter. The Bengals could not stop Derrick Henry.

955
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: They averaged seven point five yards of play. They just

956
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: didn't make as many big plays on like third down

957
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: and third and long, and there was that one Tannehill

958
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: pick and the Bengals never let him back in it

959
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: because their offense was just too good. The Titans had

960
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 1: two QB hits on Burrow bro Sacks, Clowney and Clowney

961
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 1: had played forty six snaps and had one tackle. Beasilely.

962
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: I don't know where he was. They showed him on

963
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: the sideline at one point. I don't know if he

964
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: was hurt or what he was just kind of looking

965
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: goofy over there. But man, that those their pass rush

966
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: just killing them more like Dave Clown. We don't need

967
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: the e I do think it's a problem. This This

968
00:49:55,520 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: this defense moving on fest This defense is a would

969
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: be a fatal flaw for them. Their their pass rush.

970
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: They can get a little healthier in the back end.

971
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 1: That will help. But but the pass rush, I'm not sure.

972
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: I pray I never see him in person. I haven't

973
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: seen him in person. I don't need that to happen.

974
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: It seems like a bad idea. You probably get injured

975
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: as he's coming to get you. Um offensive Rookie of

976
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: the Year race, This is gonna be the best one

977
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: since two thousand twelve Andrew luck Firs r G three, Burrow,

978
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: the Herbert who you got right now, right now. I'd

979
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: give it to Herbert because he played great today too,

980
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: just because he's only played six games and he's just

981
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: he's been on fire. He's been as good. I know

982
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: they've lost games, but it's it's pretty close. How about

983
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: a co winner, you can you can have them both

984
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: stop it, get off the fence. Sessler. No, I would

985
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: go Herbert. I mean, but Burrow, I think is could

986
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: you're coming out he's coming out hard. I think we

987
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: could say he's the best quarterback in the a f

988
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: C North the year from now. I wouldn't say that

989
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: timeline that that journey would not be shocking to me.

990
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you think he's already the second best. You

991
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: know what would happen Mark Clowney, who would come after

992
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: you with a full head of steam and then you

993
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: do you know, you're you're a quick guy. You'd make

994
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: a little move, a little juke just to buy enough

995
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: time and you'd escape and then you'd be fine. But

996
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: then everybody would be like, oh yeah, but you know

997
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: David Clowney, he really does put pressure on Like he

998
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: didn't get to Mark, but then just he disrupt He's

999
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: a big time disruptor. And anybody that actually watches football

1000
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: and understands knows he did a great job chasing Mark there. Yeah,

1001
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: he affected Mark's planning and game planning, you know, with

1002
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: the with the unseen pressure their only true analytics heads.

1003
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: Notice this is more disrespectful than you confusing wife and

1004
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: Lombardi earlier. Let's move on, Let's frock. That's it. It's

1005
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 1: a funckle footballs on the round. It's fat giggle going

1006
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: to end. So if nobody's gonna catch him up, Dolphins

1007
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: take the lead. What he fits a play? I mean,

1008
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 1: let's be honest. If if I'm trying to figure out

1009
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: if it was Charlie Ice where Mike Lombardi bed said it,

1010
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: it was probably built ourselves. That that's fair anyway. The

1011
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: debut of to a Tongue of Bloa was a big

1012
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: story going at the Sunday, but it was Miami's defense

1013
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: and special teams that guided the Dolphins to a comfortable

1014
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 1: win over the mistake prone rams Mark. The t A

1015
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 1: show has somewhat obscured the fact here that the Dolphins

1016
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: are playing as well as anyone over their last three games.

1017
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: I think they're playing with incredible confidence, and I think

1018
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: that they really are a team that um kind of

1019
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: shows you that when your coaches that way. When Brian

1020
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: Flores is gonna he's one of these Patriots offshoots that

1021
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: seem to have learned the Patriots thing, which is winning

1022
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: games in all three phases. And it was the special

1023
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: teams today. I this Jeachem Grant had an eighty eight

1024
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 1: yard punt return the longest and franchise history that made

1025
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: this thing seven and he had another forty five yard

1026
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: kick return. Their defense caused all sorts of problems and

1027
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: we can get to we can get to uh to

1028
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: on a second, but they really I think remember Brian

1029
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: Flores and this was pointed out by by Henry and

1030
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: there was a good note that Flora's big guy old

1031
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh and and and uh folds in the Super

1032
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: Bowl and it it looked the same way today. They

1033
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: made life very uncomfortable for Jared Goff. Jared Goff needs

1034
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: to be getting out of the pocket, rollouts, play action, safe,

1035
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: open reads, and he was forced to just drop back

1036
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: over and over today and they punished him and he

1037
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: looked very uncomfortable. And they climbed back into this later

1038
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: on and you know, the score doesn't look as awful

1039
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: as it was, but they caused big mistakes from the

1040
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: rams and the kind of stuff that we've sort of

1041
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: seen happen here and there with Golf over the last

1042
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: couple weeks where he's just not right on the same

1043
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: page as people, and the line maybe if it's not um,

1044
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, pristinely protecting him golf is not looking like

1045
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: the first overall pick. I mean neither did uh to

1046
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: A look like that either, I mean to A really

1047
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: I thought it's it's of an incomplete grade because I

1048
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: think they wanted to set him up with first read

1049
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 1: throws and run the ball, but they ran the ball terribly.

1050
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: There was a crazy stat in this. There are the

1051
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: total plays run, and I gotta just check my sheet here.

1052
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: The Rams had ninety two plays, the Dolphins had forty eight.

1053
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: The Rams had four hundred and seventy one yards. The

1054
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: Dolphins didn't cross a hundred yards of offense until like

1055
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: six minutes to go in the fourth quarter of the Rams.

1056
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: The Dolphins didn't have more more than one drive over

1057
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: fifteen yards, So the offense has a long way to go.

1058
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: And they wanted to give t two of these sort

1059
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: of first read quick strikes, but it never really got together.

1060
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: And you know, it's not like he played terribly. He

1061
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: just didn't really wasn't a factor, and it was it

1062
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: was not an impressive debut. I'd like to see. I'd

1063
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: be concerned about that offense and that whole team with

1064
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: two if he plays like this, If they don't get

1065
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: all these special plays from their defense and special teams.

1066
00:54:55,640 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: This would have been a Rams win otherwise and pretty convincingly. Well,

1067
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 1: it's it seems like a bit of a flukey game.

1068
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 1: It was, um, you know, you'll you'll almost never see

1069
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: a team out gain another four seventy one to one

1070
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 1: forty five, and and the team with eight first downs.

1071
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: The whole game was wait ahead. But that also means

1072
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: that the Dolphins, you know, could survive being in the

1073
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: shell because of those big plays somewhat no matter what though.

1074
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: Averaging three yards per play as a disaster for the

1075
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: Dolphins offense, but you're not worried about that if your

1076
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: Dolphins spanned too much, because you're just thinking about how

1077
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: resourceful this team is, how they're winning different types of ways,

1078
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: and that is a reflection of coaching, and that is defense,

1079
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: special teams. I mean, that is like the old Patriots

1080
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: playbooks sort of you don't know which way you're gonna win.

1081
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna win all sorts of different ways, and and

1082
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: smart teams can do that. Yeah, forty five yards for

1083
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: the Miami is the third fewest by any team in

1084
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: so having relatively easy win with that level of offensive

1085
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: production is that's not gonna happen often. Also, you're the

1086
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: opposed team committing four turnovers in the first two quarters.

1087
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: That's not gonna usually happen. So yeah, a weird, a

1088
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: weird game. Uh. The Rams man that that's they're another team.

1089
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 1: They're not at the level of the Niners. But where

1090
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: do you place the Rams when you realize that they

1091
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: whipped up on the NFC East, which is one of

1092
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: the worst collective divisions in modern football history. Uh, and

1093
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: have struggled against teams that are more competitive. I mean

1094
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 1: that it's it's continues to be a narrative that's formed

1095
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: around it's a wait and see because I do think

1096
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: they've had other quarters or quarters in a row where

1097
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: you you look at them with total promise. I love

1098
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: Darrell Henderson. He went out with an injury today. UM,

1099
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: I don't know how serious that is. Jalen Ramsey did

1100
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,919
Speaker 1: not they the Dolphins were squelched on offense and Jalen

1101
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: Ramsey didn't miss the game because of an illness, So

1102
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: that should tell you something. UM. I just think there

1103
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: are maybe one of these teams in the middle world

1104
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: where you're a wild because there's seven playoff teams, they

1105
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: could be a wild card team. But do I take

1106
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: them that seriously? It's me they're right there. To me,

1107
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: they're right there with thet sure and them. Sorry, you

1108
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: got to ask in November, what kind of illness does

1109
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey have? Well, no, they so they checked. Um.

1110
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: I think they went through all the intense protocols to

1111
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: make sure it wasn't Corona from what I read on,

1112
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: And it wasn't. But he was not. He was not

1113
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: well enough to play. It wasn't. It wasn't today. I

1114
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: like them being safe on that because you know, when

1115
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: guys are getting sick now they're they're playing it pretty safe,

1116
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: which makes sense. Like, let's not be the Los Angeles Dodgers,

1117
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: Let's be the Los Angeles Rams. Right that that is true?

1118
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: Poor Justin Turner, All right, let's move on. I thought

1119
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: it was sad for Justin Turner. Also, bad job here

1120
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: comes to Middle Cliffs, confusing pattern near sight to fall

1121
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: up the five touchdown Kansas City. Patrick Mahomes was casually

1122
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: dominant on Sunday at Arrowhead, throwing from four hundred and

1123
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 1: sixteen yards and five touchdowns and a thirty five nine

1124
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: she LACKYI of the Zombified New York Jets. You would

1125
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: think that these games hurt me. These games do not

1126
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: hurt me. I feel nothing, get that. It's just something

1127
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: I expect every Sunday that Jets to lose handily, and

1128
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: it happens, and ultimately it's not changing my life one

1129
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: way or the other right now. So I've kind of

1130
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: gone into cruise control and I'm just waiting for January

1131
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: at this point. Um As for Kansas City, this always

1132
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: profiled as an ideal get right game for mahomes stat

1133
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: sheet because the last two weeks he's been kind of

1134
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: held at bay, and a lot of that had to

1135
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: do with weather conditions more than anything else. But in

1136
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: this game, it was just too easy for him. I mean,

1137
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: the the idea that sometimes you don't overthink it. It's like,

1138
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: if you have the best quarterback in the world and

1139
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: you're against a team that is poor in all areas,

1140
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: just let the quarterback absolutely savage the opponent and that's

1141
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: how you win that week. Don't don't need to get

1142
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: your running games too involved. Just let Mahomes do his thing.

1143
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: That's what he did. And I think what I'll remember

1144
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: about this game, especially if the Chief's offense starts to

1145
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: take off like we're it used to, and I imagine

1146
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: that could happen here because all the pieces are in place.

1147
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: We'll remember this game is Mahomes in the role of

1148
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: mad Bomber returning. He completed five passes of at least

1149
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: twenty five yards to four different receivers. Four of those

1150
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: completions resulted in touchdowns to to Tyreek Kills, so they

1151
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: got that connection going again. And um, I know, a

1152
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: big storyline and perhaps the only positive for the Jets

1153
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: is that they didn't get humiliated by Levyan Bell, who

1154
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: didn't do much at all in this game, but neither

1155
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: did Clyde Edwards Hilaire. Like I said, this was really

1156
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: all Mahomes thirty five points, five touchdown passes and obviously

1157
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: never really in doubt. The Jets actually moved the ball

1158
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: a little bit in the first half, didn't even they

1159
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: didn't put in the first half. They had three field

1160
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: goals in a blocked field goal. But the same old

1161
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: story with with Gaze as a head coach. Once the

1162
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: two teams go in the locker room, one team adjusts

1163
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: and then the Jets get adjusted upon and they just

1164
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: do nothing for the final two quarters. Of the game. Yeah,

1165
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: I saw they had like what to two first downs

1166
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: in the second half or something. The Jets. It's a joke.

1167
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: It's um, you know. And and I didn't watch a

1168
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: lot of this, but Dan, I I haven't gone through

1169
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: a one in thirty one streak with the Browns UM

1170
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I think it's perfectly acceptable to

1171
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: not um apply your passion to a team that's that

1172
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: probably just needs to be broken to be rebuilt. I mean,

1173
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: and they're getting there, and so you have to almost

1174
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: just root for the worst possible UM finish to the season,

1175
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: for what it could for the opportunities that could create.

1176
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: We know the same thing every week with the Jets.

1177
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: Now there's nothing left to say with them on some

1178
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: I mean, there's stuff to talk about the Chiefs, but

1179
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Yeah, you know, things are terrible when the

1180
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: opposing quarterback throws for four and five touches and you

1181
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: come out of the game as a fan thinking it

1182
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: could have gone worse. That's where the Jets are and um.

1183
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: Sam Donald is undeniably regressing, and he injured his shoulder

1184
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: again in this game. We'll see how he wakes up tomorrow. UM,

1185
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: So just everything going wrong, the Chiefs take care of

1186
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: business and they will have more competitive games in the future.

1187
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: Seven and one looking good for that. I know that

1188
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: Steelers are undefeated, but if you look at the chief schedule,

1189
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: you know they have a two game stretch in a

1190
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: couple of weeks at Raiders at bucks Um. But other

1191
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: than that, it looks pretty manageable, and so that's gonna

1192
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: you know, they would still be my pick to get

1193
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: the one seed right now. And remember remember there is

1194
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: only one team that gets a buy effective season, so

1195
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: getting the number one seed means everything in terms of

1196
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: setting yourself up for the playoffs. Let's now welcome in

1197
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: the yoked, the eternally yoked, Nick Shook and the body

1198
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: they call him, uh, they call him the the enforcer,

1199
01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: the protector and still not technically in a union with

1200
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: his living girlfriend, and we're going to continue to track

1201
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: that as the season goes along. You're just roommates right now.

1202
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: There's no there's nothing holding you together beyond rent um,

1203
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: and maybe that should change at some point. But beautiful background, Shook,

1204
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,959
Speaker 1: I see downtown Cleveland behind you. How are you? I'm good?

1205
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: Are there other laws about that? I feel like after

1206
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 1: you're you're together in a place for a certain amount

1207
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: of time. There's like there's like a common law marriage

1208
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: state by state. Yeah, it look sounds like you're looking

1209
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: to find out. You're like, it's like what state, state

1210
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: by state? But I mean it's not like, hey, we

1211
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: were hanging out for five months and now we're like

1212
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: legally married. No, no, no, it's not gonna be that long.

1213
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: Like I said, there's a plan, we're just not at

1214
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: that point of the plan yet. Everything takes time. We're

1215
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: following the playbook, the game plan said. We've done are scouting,

1216
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: we know about there, and we're ready to proceed forward.

1217
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: We're onto two or three years from now. It is

1218
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: awkward though, when you do you have to like split,

1219
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: like ask her to split the rent, like it's split.

1220
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: That just seems strange too. That yeah, I mean, I

1221
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: mean we've been doing this for like two years now,

1222
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: so it's it's very in fact, today is November one,

1223
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: today is right? Yeah, Yeah, you better bugger, you better

1224
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: bugger to send you know, her half and sorry Nick.

1225
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: When I was an aspiring um sportswriter marginally employed from

1226
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: time to time in the late auts, I found the

1227
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: good way to handle rent with your living girlfriend. Just

1228
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: have her pay rent and yeah, that that's clear. That's more.

1229
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: There's a client. There's a clear delineation of how that

1230
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: that's handled, all right. So if you can get it,

1231
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: it's good work. If you can get it all right,

1232
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: let's get to it. Chock starting with a surprising outcome

1233
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: at Lambeau Field Cousins with a screen left to Dalvin

1234
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: gets the fifty, angles right, ambles to the first down,

1235
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: cuts right, thirty five, but it's a Packer missdown. Four

1236
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: touchdowns today for Dalvin Cook. That's a fifty yard run

1237
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: in Minnesota leads. That is one of the best in

1238
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: the business. Paul Allen k f A n with the call, Yes,

1239
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, he is an NFL superstar. The Vikings running

1240
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: back went nuts against the Packers, putting up two hundred

1241
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,919
Speaker 1: putting up over two hundred yards from scrimmage with four

1242
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: touchdowns including that catch and run score to eight. His buddies,

1243
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: his buddy Kirk Cousins. A stat line there two the

1244
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: win at Lambeau shook. Cook really is a special talent, yeah,

1245
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: very special. In today's game, I think demonstrated the difference

1246
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,439
Speaker 1: between the Vikings with Dalvin Cook and the Vikings without

1247
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook. And it's a good thing that they got

1248
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: him signed before the season, which we knew was going

1249
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: to be kind of a looming issue because obviously he's

1250
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: a massive part of this team's future and their success.

1251
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean, when they didn't have him Ryer, they had

1252
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: no rushing game to speak of and no offensive momentum

1253
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: to speak of. Everything was on the shoulders of Kirk Cousins,

1254
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: and we saw how that went today. He carries the

1255
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: load and then when he carries the load, Kirk Cousins

1256
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: looks better, and like you said, he gets his stats

1257
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: inflated by a fifty yard screen pass that effectively won

1258
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: the game for them. I know he kind of came

1259
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: down to a force follower in the last play and

1260
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,959
Speaker 1: potentially other Aaron Rodgers Hail Mary. But for the most part,

1261
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: it was the Dalvin Cook Show. It was dal Within Today.

1262
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: Last week was National tight Ends Day. Today was Dalvin

1263
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: Cook Day. So I mean, there's there are a lot

1264
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: of good running backs in the NFL, but I think

1265
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: games like today really put Dalvin Cook in that upper

1266
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: tier where you're like, our team depends on this guy

1267
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: being on the team being available and utilizing him all

1268
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: of his talents as much as he candidated today, I

1269
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: think it's him and Kamara. This year and missed a

1270
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: couple of games, but this season, I think I think

1271
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: those are the two. I mean, it's Mike Zimmer's dream.

1272
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: They threw fourteen passes in this game. That's how you

1273
01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 1: dial it up if you're Mike Zimmer. Yea because a

1274
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: uh touchdowns from scrimmage, which would be the third most

1275
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: in a single season in NFL history. And he's missed games.

1276
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: I mean he's been this He's having a historically great

1277
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: season running back. Yeah, you know it helps them out too,

1278
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: because their defense has been pretty bad, especially for a

1279
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer defense has been bad. They dealt with a

1280
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: lot of personnel changes. They've got young guys in the

1281
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: back end. Today Cam Danceler went out with kind of

1282
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: a scary injury. He left on a on a backboard

1283
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: and on a stretcher. Um. But they've got they had him,

1284
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: and they have Jeff Gladdeney, both very young guys. And

1285
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: Jeff Gladney got played a couple of times by Davante

1286
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 1: Adams for touchdowns. So being able to control possession and

1287
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: really rely on Dalvin Cook. Gives you a better chance

1288
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: to win games because the strength of their team, unlike

1289
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: past years, is not the defense. I mean, it leaves me,

1290
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: you know, we I looked at the Bucks Packers game.

1291
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: Is not an aberration, but you just ran into a

1292
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: legit awesome defense. And Green Bay bounced back last week

1293
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: and they have nineteen guys on the injury report. They're

1294
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: not themselves. I mean they're they're they're banged up. I

1295
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: think they miss Aaron Jones a little bit. But that

1296
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: hit that Aaron Rodgers took it the end was a

1297
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: reminder of how glad I am that I don't play

1298
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: sports right now at all, because it's just like I

1299
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: don't want my body feeling what he probably was feeling

1300
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: as he was bent into two pieces his body separated.

1301
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: It looked like it did still the skin was You

1302
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: can't you get that? That's news As they say there,

1303
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: there was a super slow as he got hit and

1304
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 1: the ball came out where he's got his he's like

1305
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: got his chest out because he hit from behind, his

1306
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: heads back and he's got this look of like despair

1307
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: and it looks like one of those old like Greek

1308
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: sculptures where the guy is like, you know, like one

1309
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: of the arms is in some artsy like a line,

1310
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. That's basically was Aaron Rodgers in

1311
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: the final play today. And the thing is as they're right,

1312
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: like they didn't have Aaron Jones, and it really showed

1313
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: he tried to carry them to a victory. The Packers

1314
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: have this issue where when they play good teams and

1315
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: I don't even think the Vikings aren't necessarily a good team,

1316
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: even though they played like one today, But when they

1317
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: play teams that are competitive, that are expected to be

1318
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 1: up at that level that we consider the Packers to

1319
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: be at, they all always will. I mean going back

1320
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 1: to last year when they got rolled in the NFC

1321
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: title game. They did it against Tampa Bay two weeks ago,

1322
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: and they did it again today. And the big issue

1323
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: is is when they have the ball and they get

1324
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: into a little bit of a run, they can't get

1325
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: themselves out of it until they look up and it's,

1326
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: oh my god, we gotta get going. And they woke

1327
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: up too late today and that's why they end up

1328
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: losing by six points. It's a beautiful setup for Thursday Night.

1329
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,759
Speaker 1: I mean a remap to that NFC championship game. Usually

1330
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: in a prime time game, it's like you want the

1331
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: team's winning coming in, not not this one. I think

1332
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: this is one of the more the bigger games in

1333
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: the NFC so far this year. That's a good TNF.

1334
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: You know, Jimmy G's a little banged up that Packers.

1335
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: There's doubts two out of three, Like this is a

1336
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 1: huge It's a huge game for both teams. Packers Twitter

1337
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: is spoiled when when I see them complaining, I tend

1338
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: to roll my eyes a little bit for obvious reasons.

1339
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 1: They've had so many wonderful things gifted to them over

1340
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 1: the past twenty five years. Uh. Today, a lot of

1341
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: Mike Pett and heat out there. People very upset about

1342
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: Pett and building in the second year as the defensive

1343
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: coordinator there, third year, Sorry and uh, I guess this

1344
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 1: game seemed to rile people up again. Pett and he

1345
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: existed last year to going into the off season, there

1346
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: was some concerned or not concerned, but there were some

1347
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: people wondering whether, Hey, is this guy gonna get fired

1348
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: and you know you had to get the whole vote

1349
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: of confidence, or no, he's gonna stay on our staff

1350
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: and everything else. But I thought we were somewhat close

1351
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: after that NFC title game to Mike Petton going somewhere

1352
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: and building himself a second cabin like he did. You

1353
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: got brown. Maybe after games like today he might not

1354
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: be that far away. He's a run funnel. And that's

1355
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: again why Thursday nights and drigging like he begs the

1356
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: other I'm just saying though, it's playing the team that

1357
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: ran all over He begs from the side of the

1358
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: screen handed to Greg. He begs the other teams to run,

1359
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: and then they do it, and they run all over him,

1360
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: and it drives you crazy because it's it's a little

1361
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 1: too extreme. All right, Let's head to Ford Field. It's

1362
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: picked off by the Colts nall Rich into the end

1363
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. How about that? What pick six for

1364
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: the Colts. Matthew Stafford was trying to go left side

1365
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: of the near flatted Taymore stepped right in bard of

1366
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: the past and cruises down the nearest sideline for a touchdown.

1367
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: Kenny Moore's pick six was the nail in the coffin

1368
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 1: by the Colts, who overwhelmed the lines down the road.

1369
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: Phil Rivers had another efficient performance thrown for two seventy

1370
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 1: nine yards three touchdowns, shook the Colts seemed to be

1371
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: finding themselves a little bit here, a little bit, but

1372
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 1: she kind of wonder. I mean, the Colts are. I

1373
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 1: think it's a tale of two teams defensively, because earlier

1374
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: in the season we thought about, hey, uh, this is

1375
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: a team of statistically, he is one of the best

1376
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And they met the Browns and they

1377
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: met him without Darius Leonard and they didn't look like

1378
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: that team on defense. Darius Leonard is the key to

1379
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 1: them because he was on the field today. He made

1380
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: massive place he forced to fumble that led to a touchdown,

1381
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: and then before he knew it that Kennymore pick six

1382
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 1: took a game that was a four point gear or

1383
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: six point games fourteen to a three score game, and

1384
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 1: it was like that. I mean, that's how quick it was.

1385
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 1: And that's the impact that he has on that team.

1386
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: And as long as he's healthy, I think they're, you know,

1387
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: they're they're a formidable team. But you also can't always

1388
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 1: expect Philip Rivers to play like he did today. It's

1389
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 1: twenty three of thirty three for two and two yards.

1390
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: Three touchdowns that are passerading one point five. I mean,

1391
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: this is like vintage River stuff from five seven years ago,

1392
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: not not two thousand twenty. This is not the straight

1393
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 1: that's too straight. That's great, and that coincides with various

1394
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: Leonard I mean, I think it really does go back

1395
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: to their defense. Their defense gives them chances. They do capitalize.

1396
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 1: But if you need your offense go in win a game,

1397
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,440
Speaker 1: this offense isn't gonna do it. So they're very reliant

1398
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: on that guy and on that defense being able to

1399
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,560
Speaker 1: be there and help them win games. This core touchdowns

1400
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 1: on five of their last seven drives. It gives me

1401
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 1: a little bit of hope because to me, I thought

1402
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 1: this offense looked like it was heading in completely the

1403
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: long direction. A great quote by Rivers afterwards are just

1404
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: a very Philip Rivers. Rivers the type quote he said,

1405
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: you have moments where you go, dad, gum it, we

1406
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: should be seven and oh well there's reasons you shouldn't

1407
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: be seven and know also, but uh, you know this

1408
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: was a nice move. I am a little Downip Rivers. Yeah,

1409
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's like I can't think of another human

1410
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: being that still says dad gum it, but he he does. Um.

1411
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor and DeAndre Swift combined for twenty three yards

1412
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: off seventeen attempts. I was like as excited for these

1413
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:22,719
Speaker 1: two rookie backs as running backs as any anyone out there,

1414
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: and not happening. Jonathan Taylor, to me, has been underwhelming.

1415
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: The key detail mark of those twenty three yards twenty

1416
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: two were gained by Jonathan Taylor Deander one yard attempts.

1417
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 1: I was trying to help Swift out there a little bit,

1418
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 1: but uh, you unmasked it. That's rough. Uh. This this

1419
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: felt like a doomed day day for Patricia to have

1420
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: that sort of defensive game. And Golladay, who to me

1421
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 1: is kind of the their edition of Darius Leonard is

1422
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: Kenny Golladay on that offense. They are just not the

1423
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: same without Kenny Golladay. And he got her Another quote

1424
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: from Philip Rivers after this game. I guess he just

1425
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: was very quotable. He said, he said, I can't tell

1426
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 1: you how dead it was in there. And in terms

1427
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: of the stadium and you're talking about the crowd, dan Um,

1428
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: like I talked to uh, to Chris, you know West

1429
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: and Keisha's neighbor JB. Long yesterday saw him and you know,

1430
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,480
Speaker 1: we walked around a little. He was saying, how unnerving

1431
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 1: he's the voice of the Rams. Yeah, thank you for

1432
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 1: pointing out he said, how unnerving it is. You have

1433
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: to keep reminding yourself that this is a big deal,

1434
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: because it feels sometimes like a high school game. And

1435
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,759
Speaker 1: I think I guess that's what Philip Rivers was talking about.

1436
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 1: That anecdote would have actually been so much better if

1437
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 1: Greig never qualified who he was, that it was just

1438
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: Wes's neighbor talking about football, just like Ned who's mowing

1439
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 1: his lawn. And then he takes Ned had a really

1440
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: hot take about this stadium environment. Yeah, we talked about

1441
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 1: it on Thursday show. That was a big spot for

1442
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: the Lions. And what do they do whenever there's a

1443
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 1: big spot, They let their fan base down because if

1444
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 1: you find a way to win that game at home,

1445
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 1: the schedule lightens up, and that means the three and four.

1446
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: So they're still kind of in the mix obviously, and

1447
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be stunned if a month from now they're

1448
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: still on the periphery playoff race. But at the same time,

1449
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 1: it's like, man, go you know, win a third game

1450
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 1: in a row in your building, get hot, actually give

1451
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: your fans something to get excited about. They can't do

1452
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: it because some teams just don't know how to do

1453
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 1: these things. Yeah, but you know what, Dan, here's the

1454
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: thing in sports, and not necessarily the NFL as much

1455
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: as other sports, but you don't want to languish in

1456
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: that middle area. And they're kind of in the bottom

1457
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 1: of that middle area. So as as a football fan,

1458
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: you almost want them to just prove who they are

1459
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 1: with games like today, is that they can accelerate moving

1460
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: on to the next stage and actually working towards being something.

1461
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: Because last year the excuse for them was, well, Matt

1462
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 1: Stafford was out for half a year and they were

1463
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: really playing good ball before Matt Stafford got hurt. Well

1464
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: he's not hurt, and you're still not playing good football.

1465
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: Maybe we should make a change. Well, the problem is

1466
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 1: they made about a million changes and that never works either.

1467
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: A lot of confis which takes us to thank you

1468
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 1: Mike Chew. Sunday night, what appears to be a live bull.

1469
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:13,919
Speaker 1: Mcclowd's gonna take it all the way to the end zone. Wow.

1470
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: When Al Michael's retires whenever that is, that will not

1471
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: be the call that he's remembered. But you know, it

1472
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: was a weird play. Rodney McLeod scooped up a loose

1473
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 1: ball after after a sack of the great Ben the Lucci.

1474
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: He ran it into the end zone. It was essentially

1475
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: the game ceiling score for the Eagles and a three

1476
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:48,719
Speaker 1: to nine win over the moribund Dallas Cowboys. Boys this

1477
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: we're worried that this was gonna be a terrible game.

1478
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: The market was, Yeah, I mean it's it's suddenly we're

1479
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 1: in that zone where we're watching quarterbacks um that we

1480
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 1: simply didn't even know where human beings uh, you know

1481
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 1: a month ago, and Ben d Nuci falls into that category.

1482
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 1: I found it kind of deliciously amazing when they at

1483
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 1: one point they were hanging around and they had that

1484
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: one drive where they ran the ball like seven straight times.

1485
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 1: I think denuche has got some you know, I wouldn't

1486
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 1: call them wheels, but he can move a little bit. Um.

1487
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 1: So I kind of enjoyed that. But then then it's

1488
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: just place. It's not sustainable. I mean it's totally unsustainable.

1489
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 1: And you know, Whence I think he was what over

1490
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 1: for three on passes of twenty plus eight yards, two

1491
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 1: of them for interceptions. I mean, I'm not convinced of

1492
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 1: either one of these teams, but no one was asking

1493
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: me to be to be convinced of them, and I

1494
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:47,839
Speaker 1: remain unconvinced. Right, But you thought that maybe the Eagles,

1495
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: or I thought, like the end of that Giants game,

1496
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:53,799
Speaker 1: you started putting things together. The craziest, my craziest takeaway

1497
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: here is these teams look pretty even, like their quarterbacks

1498
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: looked pretty even in terms of how they played. And

1499
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: the two teams look pretty even like they got so lucky.

1500
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 1: The Eagles averaged three point eight yards per play tonight.

1501
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 1: So so yes, you turned it over four times and

1502
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz that was a disaster. The only way they

1503
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: could have possibly lost this game was Wentz turning the

1504
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 1: ball over and he did it four four times. But

1505
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: like with five minutes left to the game, the Cowboys

1506
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: were out gaining the Eagles and had the ball in

1507
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: the red zone with the chance to go ahead. It

1508
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: was It was the worst game anyone's had against this

1509
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense by far. Yeah, it's hard to make sense

1510
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: of how poor Carson Wentz played in the first half

1511
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 1: of this game. Considering like we've talked about, he's shown

1512
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 1: flashes of snapping out of it, and he's had really

1513
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: good stretches the last couple of weeks, and the Cowboys

1514
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 1: have been historically bad, and they were running the ball

1515
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 1: well the Eagles initially, so it seemed to be well

1516
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: set up for Wentz to carve up uh carve up

1517
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 1: d Alice, but he couldn't do it. I mean there,

1518
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 1: I don't think the quarterback play was at the same

1519
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: level because the news God blessed he can't make that

1520
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 1: throw the Travis and being the same, which is a

1521
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: pretty bad but once played a terrible game here. I mean,

1522
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: you cannot. You cannot throw two interceptions and lose two

1523
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: fumbles in the first half of a game like that.

1524
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 1: That's just that's just that's just sloppy as hell. And

1525
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 1: they're very lucky the Eagles to come out of this

1526
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: game with the win, because this would have been a

1527
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 1: humiliating loss considering that the Cowboys are just such a

1528
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 1: train wreck. Uh So the Eagles should consider themselves lucky

1529
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: that their defense was able to step in. What are

1530
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 1: two things I really liked the Greg's ourline kick right

1531
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 1: before the half that looked like, um, like an insane

1532
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 1: like a you know, sinker or something as it's it

1533
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:43,799
Speaker 1: rocketed through the skies. What was that fifty nine yards?

1534
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: I thought Mike McCarthy a couple of times was gonna

1535
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: completely um, his head was going to explode on some

1536
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 1: of the stuff that was happening to him, you know,

1537
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 1: flipping his hat around and looking like a madman on

1538
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 1: the sideline. And then they mathematically showed that it really

1539
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 1: wouldn't be that impossible for an Eagles team to finish

1540
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 1: for eleven and one and host um a playoff game.

1541
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: And I know that's that won't happen. They'll probably get

1542
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 1: to seven wins or something. But uh, it's not that

1543
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 1: crazy of an idea with the team that we saw

1544
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 1: this evening, right they I mean, they're getting healthier, getting

1545
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 1: Jalen Reagor back. Okay, he made a couple of plays

1546
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 1: fulghum is a guy got it was out there, didn't

1547
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 1: didn't do much. Maddox was back. Like you would think

1548
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: they would get better, but they haven't shown it. I

1549
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 1: they are the most the luckiest and unluckiest team somehow

1550
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 1: at the exact same time because you know they're unlucky

1551
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: with with these injuries. You know, it happens year after year.

1552
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: It started during the Super Bowl year and it keeps happening.

1553
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 1: They they're unlucky, but they've pulled these games out of

1554
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: their ass. They could be oh and eight very easily.

1555
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they really have this schedules rough and the

1556
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: fact that they're in the NFC East, to me, that's

1557
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: lucky too, Like all of this shouldn't really be so meaningful,

1558
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 1: but they're a likely playoff team now, so they're they're

1559
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 1: lucky that they've they've somehow skated by and might survive

1560
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: all of this. I love what Patrick Doherty over it

1561
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: wrote a world following at roto Pat, he writes a

1562
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,839
Speaker 1: great fantasy column, writes a lot of great fantasy stuff.

1563
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: But some of you wrote a couple of weeks ago

1564
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 1: really resonated with me, and then it popped in my

1565
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 1: head again. Uh tonight. He said that right now, Carson

1566
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 1: Wentz operates as an even more demented version of Ryan Fitzpatrick,

1567
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: which I just like. I was jealous when I read

1568
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: it because it was so perfectly stated. That's where Wentz

1569
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 1: is ines having a really strange season. I don't know

1570
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 1: where it can go. Could get a lot worse. I

1571
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 1: feel like I could get a lot better. Um, But

1572
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 1: Eagles fans are are along for the ride. And he's

1573
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: up to twelve interceptions now wild and he leads the

1574
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: league in fumble It's this kind of who he is,

1575
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 1: at least with the fumbles. He leads the NFL and

1576
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 1: fumbles since he entered the league. Some of those, that's

1577
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 1: part of the Yeah, that's part of the drill. Holding

1578
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,879
Speaker 1: the ball too long, his body caught an awkward position,

1579
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: getting smoked like, these are things that rookies, mistakes, rookies make.

1580
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 1: And this guy's played in the league for half a decade. Anyway,

1581
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 1: we never have to watch that game ever. Again, let's

1582
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 1: not even think about it ever. Again, Let's bring in

1583
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood, because that's more important. Hey, Ricky, Um, amazing development.

1584
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: You know, this has been quite frankly, um, not just

1585
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 1: in the world, but also for this podcast because of

1586
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 1: what Chris is dealing with, uh with cancer for a

1587
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: second time, and he's battling and it's an unreal fight

1588
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: that he's up against, and so it was really nice

1589
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: to have some good news some joy sprinkled into the

1590
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 1: A T and podcast Realm when you did your Beyonce

1591
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 1: like surprise album drop, the great story article that came

1592
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 1: out in NFL dot com where you spoke about kind

1593
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 1: of the journey you've made um as a gay woman

1594
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 1: and kind of now it's out there to everybody. We

1595
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:06,600
Speaker 1: obviously knew this as long as we've known you just

1596
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 1: about but well not from the first minute. I mean

1597
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: when you took us, when you took us to the

1598
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: nightclub in London called Gay, I was like, Okay, I

1599
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: think something's going on here. Um, but anyway, we're all

1600
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 1: so proud of you, and Greg wouldn't go that night. Well,

1601
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: I was watching the US Open final Osaka, one of

1602
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: the most memorable sporting nights. Maybe maybe not so open

1603
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 1: Greg when you think about it, but anyway, Erica, the

1604
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:35,600
Speaker 1: floor is yours. Were so proud of you, and it

1605
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 1: was an awesome read and everybody should check it out. Um.

1606
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 1: I imagine there was a lot of people that got

1607
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 1: in touch with you after you dropped. Yeah, it was

1608
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 1: absolutely insane, like overwhelming. I really didn't expect it to

1609
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 1: I figured it would it would be shared and kind

1610
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 1: of that stuff, but on that that scale that it

1611
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: was and like I like am getting nervous even like

1612
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 1: talking about it, like it just feels weird. And it

1613
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 1: was also like I feel really good and happy, um,

1614
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: but also like just the exposure and like the messages

1615
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: from people I've been getting from across the league and

1616
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 1: league offices emailing me, like in our NFL database we

1617
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: can have each other's emails and stuff, and I'm hearing

1618
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 1: from people that I didn't know existed, some that I did,

1619
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: and it's just a really really flattering it's maybe the

1620
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 1: word humble, Like I don't even really know because I

1621
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: don't really feel like I did anything that was like

1622
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: this huge thing. But I have like middle school teachers

1623
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 1: reaching out to me that I haven't heard, Like it's

1624
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 1: just it's just it's been really really overwhelming, but but beautiful.

1625
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 1: And I can't thank you guys enough because as you

1626
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 1: read the article, like, you guys have been my backbone

1627
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: since the day that we met, and I really love

1628
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 1: and cherish you guys, and you're always championing me and

1629
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. We love you, Ricky. Thank you, Ricky.

1630
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 1: I mean it is it is so exciting, and I

1631
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 1: think you added yourself too as a good writer. Now

1632
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to, uh, like a really good writer.

1633
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to start doing bylines a little more regularly. Yeah.

1634
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 1: Well that's secondly, a big thank you to Mark because

1635
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 1: I he saw the first draft and it came a

1636
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,679
Speaker 1: long way. It didn't it didn't start off that way.

1637
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 1: I think that it was great. You tapped into like

1638
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 1: your your heart and your real feelings. I had an

1639
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: idea though, I thought that you should make this announcement.

1640
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,600
Speaker 1: It would cause such a story. You should make this

1641
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 1: announcement like every Friday, just to like get that that

1642
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 1: that weekend vibe going, because it seems to be quite

1643
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:43,640
Speaker 1: an event. So it was. It was crazy. Yeah, I

1644
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 1: mean to get the most of the this new found

1645
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: writing skill newly discovered. I should say, maybe a little

1646
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: Eagles Cowboys what we learned. Yeah, yeah, that sounds awesome.

1647
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 1: You guys, that sounds so much fun. We're proud of you.

1648
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,640
Speaker 1: Great job. Rick. Yeah, it's it's I don't know if

1649
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 1: it braves the word, but I don't. I I can't imagine,

1650
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: you know, putting yourself out there and they're being obviously

1651
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 1: knowing that you could get positive negative. So well, it

1652
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 1: really hasn't been a lot of negative feedback, which I

1653
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: was sort of bracing myself for, um, and it's really

1654
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 1: it's really awesome. A couple of like, oh, so does

1655
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 1: that mean I don't have a chance, like tweets and

1656
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: stuff which I'd laughed, but like, come on, be funnier exactly.

1657
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 1: What about the opening line of the piece? And again

1658
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 1: check it out NFL dot com. Uh, and Ricky has

1659
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 1: it posted on her feed and we've all posted it.

1660
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: You start with a quote that you, um, someone said

1661
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 1: to you in the break room at NFL Media, Which,

1662
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 1: lucky guy are you bringing to the holiday party? Why

1663
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 1: do you think Mark said that to you? Because that

1664
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 1: sounds like a little out of bounds. Yeah, it was weird.

1665
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 1: It was. It was weird, you know that just just

1666
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 1: for like the more dim um sided listeners. I actually

1667
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: did not say that, just so it was not Mark. Yeah, no,

1668
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 1: it was. That was a very warm, warm The whole

1669
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 1: thing is just like a warm hug because everyone we

1670
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 1: work with, you know, a lot of people reached out

1671
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 1: to you and um, knowing you as well as we

1672
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 1: know you. Obviously, this is special to be able to

1673
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 1: share this with this many people. So good stuff Ricky. Uh,

1674
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 1: and how about more good news to keep on coming in?

1675
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 1: Close this thing out. Uh. Speaking of closing things out,

1676
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 1: it's time to close out today's show. We'll be back

1677
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 1: and is but speaking it back? Does anyone back at

1678
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 1: your apartment? Erica? No no, no, no, no, no no

1679
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,719
Speaker 1: no no good good good. You can see the shades

1680
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 1: are closed. Smart. Yeah, so no update on that front.

1681
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 1: That's also good news. See the good news is flowing now. Um.

1682
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: All right, We'll be back on Tuesday with another week

1683
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 1: of the Run the NFL podcast as we roll into

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Speaker 1: the second half of the season. This is Dan Hansons

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Speaker 1: signing off for the Great Ricky Hollywood, the Old Boss,

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Speaker 1: and the Quiet Storm. Of course, I still don't know

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Speaker 1: his nickname, Nick Shuck until Tuesday.