1 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Helloha, and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh, there's Chuck, 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: there's Josh. Heloha. No way, don't go anywhere. I didn't 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: mean goodbye. I was just saying hello again. You've been 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: to Hawaii? Sure? Yeah, Mary, you mean I got married 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: in Hawaii. That's right, Hawaii and you've been back right 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: or now? Yes, we love it. I can't wait. I've 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: never been. Still, you're gonna love it. When we went, 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: we were not expecting it to be as great as 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: it was, and we were just blown away. And we 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: went back and got married, and now we go back 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: as often as we can. And to people that are thinking, 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: what did jerk? Josh didn't invite Chuck to his wedding, 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: didn't invite anybody. Yeah, you guys kind of did your 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: own thing. So but yeah, we eloped. I like to 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: think I was on the uh spiritual guest list. You 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: definitely were. But it was funny when we called people 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: and said, like, you know, hey, we just got married. 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: We eloped, and and the first question from just about 19 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: everybody was, well, who is there? Really'd say no one, 20 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: and they go congratulations. Wait, why don't you say congratulations first? Yeah, 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: that's interesting we need new friends and family. Who was 22 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: there exactly? So the thing I couldn't we're talking about 23 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: the legend of the night Marchers of Hawaii. I read 24 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: through a couple of things on this, and I was 25 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: frustrated because I still couldn't figure out what they were. 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: Were they like, were they real? Is it a legend 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: or the ghost? Is it folklore? And I finally it 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: took me like two or three articles, so I was like, Okay, 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: this isn't really happening. So wait, there was a point 30 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: and in your research where you thought that, like, like 31 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: people were walking around just slaughtering innocent bystanders in Hawaii. 32 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: Well that's what confused me is I thought maybe these 33 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: were people re enacting this legend for fun. But then 34 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: I was like, but the murder part, like no one 35 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: has said, like, but they don't really kill you. So 36 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: let's talk about what this is now. I'm confused. Uh, 37 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: if you have been to Hawaii might have heard about 38 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: these night marchers. It is a uh it's basically a 39 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: situation where you might hear and of course this is 40 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: folklore again, right, right, this is this is folklore. Right. 41 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: You'll hear these war drums in the distance, you'll hear chanting. Ah, 42 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: you hear like the horn of a cock shell being 43 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: sound sounded, and you will see the torches marching through 44 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: and winding through the darkness, and you're like, oh s 45 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: the night marchers, right, even if you don't know what 46 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: the night marchers are, hopefully this will scare you enough 47 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: to run and not be like, oh, let me stick 48 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: around and take a gander and see what happens. Because 49 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: here's the problem. If you are a Howley or even 50 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: a Hawaiian who doesn't know what's going on right now, 51 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: although that's probably not the case because it's apparently a 52 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: widespread cultural tradition. Um, if you stick around and the 53 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: night marchers find you and they notice that you are gawking, 54 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: they will kill you right there. They will shout something 55 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: that means pierce that person, and you will be killed. Yeah, 56 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: if you make eye contact, supposedly, and not only will 57 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: you be killed, you'll be killed by supernatural beings, which 58 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: I would guess is way worse than being killed under 59 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: normal circumstances. That's right. So what's supposedly happening is is 60 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 1: these I think it's the chiefs are traveling at night 61 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: to avoid being spotted and they are Are they all 62 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: chiefs or is this the chief and people in his 63 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: guard sort of uh, protecting them along the way the 64 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: ladder of those two. Okay, that's what I thought. And 65 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: it's not just like the supernatural ghost. So these are 66 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: the ghosts of chiefs who were protected in the people 67 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: who protect them. It's all this ghost procession through Hawaii 68 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: at night. And it's actually something that used to happen 69 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: in the old days because it was a long standing 70 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: tradition among Hawaiian culture that the chiefs were so divine 71 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: that a normal person couldn't look upon them, and you 72 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: certainly couldn't be in their presence while you had clothes on, right, 73 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: which is why if you're just kind of a tourist 74 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: gawking and you run across the night marchers and you're 75 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: wearing clothes and you're looking at the chief, that's why 76 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: they kill you. So in real life, historically speaking, some 77 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: of the better chiefs would say, well, I can't just 78 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: go wandering around from place to place in the daytime 79 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: where somebody might see me accidentally and then they have 80 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: to be killed. I'll just take to the to the 81 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: trails at night and me and my procession will will 82 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: travel at night. This is the ghostly continuation of that 83 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: actual historical tradition. It's very much like a Scooby Doo 84 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: plot if you ask me, totally. I can't believe they 85 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: never did this, Yeah, because they went on sort of 86 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: exotic vacations occasionally in some of those later years. And 87 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: Hawaiian real estate is so valuable that a real estate 88 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: developer might actually go to this length to scare people 89 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: off of land that he wanted for cheap. So yeah, 90 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: I mean that would have been perfect for Scooby Doo. 91 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: It would have been the most realistic Scooby Doo episode ever. Yeah, 92 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: but you gotta get like the three students out there 93 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: or something. It's curly Joe. Yeah. Yeah. All right, so 94 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we will come back 95 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: and talk a little bit more about what happens on 96 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: this ghostly journey right after this. Alright, So the lunar 97 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: cycles have something to do with this as well, because 98 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: apparently they tend to appear usually during the last four 99 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: Hawaiian moon phases when it's darkest. Yeah, Hawaii has their 100 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: own lunar phases, and they're more distinct than ours. They 101 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: have like thirty of them where we have like eight. 102 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: It's pretty incredible. And their last four are Kanie, Lono, 103 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: Mauli and Muku and Ralph and they're basically the right 104 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: and they're the h and Curly Joe. They're the dark 105 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: dark phases of the moon. Yeah, so it's it's darkest 106 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: out then. Uh. They're usually mark marching toward uh some 107 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: very sacred sites or very popular and notable cultural sites. Uh. 108 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: And like we said, if you hear this and you're like, 109 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, let me go check this out, just 110 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: don't do it because you're gonna die even though it's 111 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: not real, right. Uh. If you are in an ancestor 112 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: uh and you have some kind of family tie to 113 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: someone in the march, they know to respect it, but 114 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: you will also be protected. Right. So here's the thing, 115 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: Like if you if it turns out that you happen 116 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: just coincidentally to be a um a distant descendant of 117 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: one of the ghosts on the march in this procession, 118 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: they will say this, this person is one of my descendants, 119 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: and don't kill him, and and we'll just go ahead 120 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: and encapsulate him. At least that last part about capsulating 121 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: him or protecting him or her. Uh comes from Akhuna, 122 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: a real life cahuna um by the name of Lopaca 123 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: Kappa Neui. Is he the big Cahuna? I think he's 124 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: just a regular khuna, okay, but he is a kind 125 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: of a cultural historian and uh a khuna again, kind 126 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: of a spiritual leader of um Hawaiian culture. And he 127 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: said that at one point he encountered one of these 128 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: night march ghostly processions and he was protected ostensibly because 129 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: one of his distant relatives was one of the marchers. Yeah, 130 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: there's another couple of things that can save you. One 131 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,119 Speaker 1: as if you have a plant, very specific plant called 132 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: the t I guess t I I think so it 133 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: is an evergreen plant. And if you have that planet 134 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: around your home, which I bet a lot of houses 135 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: in Hawaii do, just for maybe superstitious sake, you will 136 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: be protected it. And the other is if you just 137 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: happen to be out there and you come across one 138 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: of these marching groups you are too and you're accidentally 139 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: make eye contact. You're like, hey, what's up man, and 140 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: they're like, you're about to die and they say the 141 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: thing you were supposed to strip down naked, lay down, 142 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: face down on the ground, close your eyes, p yourself 143 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: in play dead. Yeah, just basically showing complete deference and 144 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: fealty to these things, to these ghostly warriors in their 145 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: king And the p yourself was not a chuck joke. 146 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: That's for real. They say to urinate if you can, 147 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: and that they'll they'll be like, wow, I guess that worked. 148 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: We scared the p out of them. Yeah. Another another 149 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: UM piece of advice is not to whistle at night, 150 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: because apparently legend has it, you might accidentally summon the 151 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: night marchers. UM. And I don't know if there's any 152 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: more advice. I think, Oh, run, that's that's what um 153 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: Lopaca can Kappa Nui says. He says, if you start 154 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: to hear those drums at night in the distance, or 155 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: you hear a conk show, or you start to apparently 156 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: you can smell rotting flesh that's part of it, um, 157 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: or if you start to see those torches coming towards you, 158 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: you should just just run, don't stick around. Yeah, and 159 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: this and this how stuff works article I said, don't 160 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: stop to take selfies like some people done have done 161 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: in the past. Just run Is that all just stungue 162 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: in cheek? I I don't know. I can't tell anymore. 163 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: The border between real and supernatural has been completely crossed. 164 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: I totally agree. I don't know if I need to 165 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: go to Hawaii now because I have made fun of 166 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: this and they they know I'm doing so you are 167 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: going to love it, Chuck, all right, you gotta go 168 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 1: and you're gonna love it, Okay, all right, Well we'll 169 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: see everybody in Hawaii. Because short stuff is out. Stuff 170 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: you should know is production of iHeart Radios. How Stuff works. 171 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: For more podcasts for my Heart Radio, visit the iHeart 172 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your 173 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: favorite shows. M