1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast powered 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: by Amazon Web Services. Ethan Greenberg, Erick Allen rocking out 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: in the home studios, we have Harvey Longy on the podcast, 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: of course part Scott joins us later for our Victor 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: Knox Swiss Army Knife Player of the Game segment by 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: WHOA what happened in Southern California that the Jets flew 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: back home with a dub One of the biggest updates, 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: the biggest upsets in modern football history, the New York 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: Jets the seventeen point underdog against the Rams. I didn't 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: see this one common Greens. We talked about it heading 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: into the final three weeks of the season. If the 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: Jets we're going to get a win. I thought this 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: team had showed uh propensity to play better at home 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: at MetLife Stadium, so I thought, Hey, maybe they could 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: sneak up on the Browns or the New England Patriots. 16 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: Where are in the playoffs for the first time in 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. You don't know what their lineup 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: is gonna be looking like in week seventeen. On paper, 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: this looks like an awfully difficult matchup the number one 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: defense in the National Football League with the Rams and 21 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: then balanced offense. They run the football while cam cam 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: Akers are coming off a great game against the New 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: England Patriots, Jared Golf getting the ball out of his 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: hands to Cooper Cup and Robert Woods and company. So 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: you gotta hand it to the Jets. Bottom line, they 26 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: faced so much adversity in two thousand and twenty and 27 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,639 Speaker 1: at zero and thirteen when nobody gave them a chance. 28 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: Consider what had happened to two previous weeks, the heartbreaker 29 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: against the Raiders, and then they went out to the 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: West Coast and played the Seahawks forty to three when 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: the offense got nothing going. Wow, they played their best 32 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: game in all three phases. I think you gotta give 33 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: a lot of credit to everyone in the building, especially 34 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: the players of course, who executed what we thought was 35 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: a good game plan. And just on a lighter note, 36 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: I wonder how many people across the United States and 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: world picked the l A. Rams and like Survivor Pools, 38 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: because I bet you Survivor Pools got knocked out big 39 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: time if you chose another team that wasn't the l. A. 40 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: Rams and they won. Oh. I agree with that because 41 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: a lot of folks, you know, are taking the strategy 42 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: of whoever Jacksonville plays, whoever the New York Jets play. 43 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: While it didn't work for a lot of people last 44 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: week in l A, you gotta give credit to everybody 45 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: across the board. I thought the defense really set the 46 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 1: tone for the game. Quint and Williams continues to play 47 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: at an elite level. Nathan Shephard filling in for falling 48 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: runs of Fadakazi, Bryce Hall with his first career in reception. 49 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: How about special teams? JT. Hassle speaking of prop bets, 50 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: I wonder if you want to MGM that MGM and 51 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: said on Saturday, I'm taking JT. Hassle with the block 52 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: point against the Rams. What kind of odds do you 53 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: would have got on net? Brandon Man, you talked to 54 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: him after the game, A game seed tackle on that 55 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: punt return late Marcus may make an beautiful passing reflection 56 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: and then offensively, we were talking about it before we 57 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: started this podcast. Sam Donald really decisive in control, played 58 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: his best game with the season back home in southern California. 59 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: You know, there's a thousand ways that we could skin 60 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: this cat. We could talk about every highlight of the game. 61 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: We can talk about individual performance, as you mentioned, Sam Donald, 62 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: but I think I think we should almost kind of 63 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: focus on the ripple effect here because it's a very 64 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: polarizing day in Jets Twitter. Because the Jets won, the 65 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: players and coaches are happy, and a lot of former 66 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: NFL players who are in the meeting now are happy 67 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: for the Jets. I was watching the clip Pat McAfee 68 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: was saying he was a part of the Colts team 69 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: that drafted Andrew Luck and they were oh in thirteen 70 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: or something similar, and they finally got their first win 71 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: over the Tennessee Titans, and he said it was like 72 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: it was such a great feeling and went on and 73 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: described that was and for him. So he was happy 74 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: for the Jets. But on the other end of the 75 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: spectrum for the fans. Obviously, if you, if you don't 76 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: live under a rock, you've seen that the fans or 77 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: most fans are upset because of what could happen in April. 78 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: What if Trevor Lawrence decides to declare and right now, 79 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: if the draft or tomorrow, the Jets would not have 80 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. That would be the Jacksonville Jaguars. 81 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: The bottom line is you never want to be in 82 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: a situation ever again where the players are celebrating a 83 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: victory and the fan base is unhappy. And this happens 84 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: because they're looking out at the draft and they see 85 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: somebody like Trevor Lawrence. So a lot of people think 86 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: he's a generational prospect, like one of the better prospects 87 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: out there that we've seen in the last twenty or 88 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: thirty years. But there are two weeks to play some ball. 89 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: The Jacksonville Jaguars have a home game against Chicago Bears, 90 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: who suddenly got hot with Mr Robinski at quarterback. Who 91 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: would have saw uh that coming? And then who did 92 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: jackson Mill beat in their first game that was in 93 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts while they finished the season Indianet in Indianapolis 94 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: against the Colts. And you've been saying all along, Greens, 95 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: who knows what that game is ultimately going to mean 96 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: for Indianapolis. Maybe they either have the division tucked away 97 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: or they know they're gonna be a wild card in 98 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: the following weekend, and maybe the rest of people things 99 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: like that. The bottom line is to let's look at 100 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: it from Joe Douglas's perspective. He's trying to develop a 101 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: culture here. He has filled that locker room with a 102 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: lot of character players and we've seen that on display. 103 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 1: And when we look ahead to the draft, no matter 104 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: where the Jets are drafting, they're gonna have an early pick. 105 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: In fact, they had two first round picks which is 106 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: coming up in April, two first round picks in two 107 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: and then what's the number eight or nine draft picks 108 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: in the first three round over the next two years. 109 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: And Joe Douglas's first draft class, headlined by his first 110 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: big overall McKay Beckton, looks pretty damn good. That is 111 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: for sure. That is for certain. And when you go 112 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: down the the list, even some undrafted guys like Javelin 113 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: Gidrey played a hundred percent of the team snaps against 114 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: the Rams, and he's a player that's really come on 115 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: as of late. Also in a official Jet an official 116 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: Jets podcast powered by Amazon Web Services alone, because he 117 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: was recently on on our podcast. So I think you've 118 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: seen the dividends early, which is nice to see for 119 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: a draft class in its first year because typically you 120 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: can't really evaluate a draft class until a couple of 121 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: years down the road. Well, you're starting to see some 122 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: early payoff here from guys like like Kai Beckton and company. 123 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: And you said it, the Jets are gonna have I'm 124 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: pretty sure the Jets are locked into the top three 125 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: pick based on where we are right now, So the 126 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: Jets are gonna have their opportunity to draft a blue 127 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: chip player, assuming that the blue chip players declared for 128 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:03,119 Speaker 1: the draft out of the underclassman so on and so forth. 129 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: And just circling back to that Indianapolis Colts game and 130 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: the Jaguar situation is I think you kind of said it, 131 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: like no one really thought the Jets were going to 132 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: beat the Rams. So that's really what makes football football. 133 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: You we might be sitting here and saying like, I 134 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: don't know if the Jaguars will win another game, but 135 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: you just don't know. And everyone says it's real hard 136 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: to lose sixteen in a row, as of course it is, 137 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: but the Jags one week one, they've lost since, so 138 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: maybe they're due. Who knows. There's a lot that can 139 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: happen between now and the end of the season, and 140 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: then a ton that's gonna happen between the end of 141 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: the season and April's draft. Yeah, and then we don't 142 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: have the crystal wall of what each of these prospects 143 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: are going to look like once they enter the National 144 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: Football League and get involved in a new system and 145 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: acclimate themselves to a new environment. So there's a lot 146 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: of things that are uncertain right now. We don't know 147 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: the draft order. We know the Jets are gonna have 148 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: plenty a draft capital, there's no doubt about that. We 149 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: know that Joe Douglas is one of the most respected 150 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: personnel man in the National Football League. We know that 151 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: he's had just one draft. And I make the argument 152 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: to Ethan, and I don't know how you feel about this. 153 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: I never looked at the Jets as an all in 154 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: thirteen team. Parcels is right. Bill Parcels always used to said, 155 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: you are what your record says you are. But if 156 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: you really die deep into the schedule, there are games 157 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: out there that I thought, typically you probably win. At 158 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: Denver Thursday night game, we couldn't put it away at 159 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: home a week four, and then it was the Patriots game. 160 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: You had a lead in the fourth quarter again unable 161 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: to close the deal. And then the Raiders game, I 162 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: mean that game was basically locked and sealed and it 163 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: just didn't happen, but uh, you know you are what 164 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: your record says you are, so you are one in thirteen. 165 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: I just I just think if you watch the Jets 166 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: played throughout the year, even though his historically, uh, they've 167 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: had some bad numbers at times during the year, there 168 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: were a bunch of games, a few games, I should 169 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: say that we're out there where I thought those probably 170 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: should have went into the win column. And if you're 171 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: a fan again, you're gonna get an early pick no 172 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: matter what happens over the course of the next two weeks. 173 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: And in fact, you're gonna have two first rounders, and 174 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: you have a ton of draft capital, and there are 175 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: guys here that you like what you're seeing on the field. 176 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: You've seen players continue to develop, and I know those 177 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: guys as we heard Sunday night that we're stoked about 178 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: having a victory. And a lot of these guys are 179 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: playing for jobs and they're playing for their professions. So 180 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: I want to anticipate the Jets to continue to have 181 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: great efforts over the next two weeks, win or lose, 182 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: no doubt, and one player who gives a thousand percent 183 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: effort regardless of the result, regardless of the score, or 184 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: the time of the game. That's linebacker Harvey Longing. Without 185 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: further ado, let's hear or from Harvey himself. This season 186 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: will end for the Jets in Foxborough in two weeks. Um, 187 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: when you go back to Foxborough. Uh, you know, and 188 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: some people have heard your story and some people haven't, 189 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: and Ethan just mentioned it. Can you explain exactly what 190 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: happened to you and your wife, Cassidy, and how that 191 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: changed both of you and has helped you get to 192 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: this point right now, how you were able to overcome 193 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: a potentially tragic moment and I would imagine that brought 194 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: you even closer together with your wife. Um, because a 195 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: lot of people are celebrating Christmas later this week, and 196 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: the world has had seen its share of tough times, 197 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: but I think we have to hear about a great 198 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: story of somebody overcoming and your family is a great 199 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: example that. Yeah, that's you know, that's a great that's 200 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: a great question, and you know, I'm willing to share that. 201 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: So uh to set up a little you know, backstory 202 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: to what was happening, I was undrafted. I made the 203 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster um at the at the Patriots, 204 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: I was undrafted to the Patriots. I made the fifty 205 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: three man roster, but I was playing special teams. But 206 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: I was going in and out of being active and 207 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: not active, active and not active. I was more inactive 208 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: than active. And I was activated I think for maybe 209 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: one or maybe two games. I want to say it 210 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: was probably even one game, I don't know. But I 211 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: played special teams and I backed up Kyle Van Noy 212 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: and Dante Height Tower Um and you know some pretty 213 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: dang good linebackers and the Patriots. But there was one week, 214 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: it was like weeks six or weeks seven, where you know, 215 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator came out to me and just said, hey, 216 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: you you you better be prepared this this week. You know, 217 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: I know you're gonna you if we do activate you, 218 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: you'll play special teams. I need you to be prepared, 219 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: uh for some defensive reps due to injury at the time. 220 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: And so this week I was taking it as serious 221 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: as possible as you know, watching extra film, I was, 222 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, trying to go through all my playbook and 223 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: going through all the steps and fundamentals to do the 224 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: things that you need to do within your playbook. And 225 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: at least once a week you know, getting this advice 226 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: from you know, a lot of men that you know 227 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: are are big into my life. They will say, hey, 228 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: you know, set aside a time where you can go 229 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: on a date, you know, when you're married, blah blah. 230 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: So every every Tuesday, my wife and I would always 231 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: go out on a date. But I canceled it this 232 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: week because I didn't. I wanted to be focused and 233 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: about is I think Thursday or front was Friday. We 234 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: get a call from one of our good friends that 235 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: we're in Foxborough that we you know, we've build a 236 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: relationship with since we've been there, hit us up and 237 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: they're like, hey, we're gonna go to We're gonna go 238 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: out to dinner. Do you do you guys want to 239 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: go out? And and you know, Cast answer to the phone. 240 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: She looked at me and told me the situation. I'm 241 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: sitting there going through you know, playbook and stuff, and 242 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, let's just do it next week. 243 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: And you can. I could just see in Cast in 244 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: space like uh, She's just like no, it's fine, Um, 245 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: you guys go ahead. We'll just stay back and I 246 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: can just you know, because she stays home all day 247 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: every day because she's there to just support me, because man, 248 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: it's our first year in the NFL. UM when I 249 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: was going to school, she graduated because you know, I 250 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: took those two years on my mission, so she graduated 251 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: because we're the same age. So she graduated and worked 252 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: for a year and a half full time. So she 253 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: was the breadwinner for the last two years of my college. 254 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: My college. So this time when I wanted to go 255 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: into the NFL and like, listen, you just come. Let's 256 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: go on this journey and just do it together because 257 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: you'll never know, like if it ends, it ends, and 258 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: we gotta let's go and do it together. Um, you know, 259 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: it could be short, it could be long, but let's 260 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: go ride it out. So she came out there and 261 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: didn't really have a job, so she's bored all day. 262 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: She wants to go out, she wants to put on 263 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: jeans for once, and at we're sweats all day, you know. 264 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: So I could see her face. She's like, you guys, 265 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: go it's behind we're you're just gonna s And I'm 266 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: sitting there and I had this billing my gut, like 267 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: gosh it, like I guess we can go to dinner 268 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: if we go to this Longhorn Steakhouse that's literally down 269 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: the highway. You just get on the highway, you get 270 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: off the next exits within a mile, and I hit 271 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: I just say, hey, baby, go throw on your jeans. 272 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: Let's go call them talking to me this at Longhorned Steakhouse. 273 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's hang out. You can see the brightness 274 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: of and she's so happy. Oh my god, let's see 275 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: we do this whatever, It'll be quick and um on 276 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: our way back home. Uh, we get on the highway, 277 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: but like it's like a it's like Columbia Turnpike, if 278 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: if anyone is familiar with that, that's you know, watching 279 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: it's like Columbia turnpipe of here, get on Columbia. And 280 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: we're coming back. And we stopped at the light on 281 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: the like we stopped at a light on a turning 282 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: arrow to go to just turn and and to get 283 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: off Columbia to come home. So we're we're almost home. 284 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: We stopped at the red light and I'm trying to 285 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: find a song on on my phone, you know, Bluetooth, 286 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: and my wife's just like by the time you find 287 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: a song, we're gonna be home. I don't know why 288 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: you're even trying, and I hit the song that I 289 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: find and I'm being annoying, singing in it out loud 290 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: and just like trying to get her annoyed because I 291 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: found a song and then boom, Like I didn't know 292 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: what happened. I woke up and all I could see 293 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: was just red and blue lights, glass everywhere. I was 294 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: crunched up, like my knees were all in to my chest. 295 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't, I couldn't move like that that uh, that 296 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: noise that you hear in your ear whenever your ear 297 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: drums pop or like something loud gets blowning, and you know, 298 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: it's like a like a high pitched tone is just 299 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: going to my ears. And I'm just like, what just happened? 300 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: And I don't even know what's what that what the 301 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: heck is happening. There's a bunch of you know, first 302 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: responders and cops around our car, cutting using the jaws 303 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: of life to open things up. And I turned to 304 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: my right and castes, you know, she's she's bent over 305 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: like this and there's just blood. He's just going everywhere, 306 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm trying to just figure out what 307 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: the heck has happened. And then it just you know, 308 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: my my adrenaline hits because like you know, I see 309 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: casts they're bleeding out, and I'm trying to you know, 310 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: get you know, use all this strength that I have 311 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: to like get to help Earn to do things. But 312 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't because I was so smushed. Um. So, a 313 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: jeep was coming, you know, fifty seven miles per hour 314 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: and smashed into us directly from the back and there 315 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: was a car in front of us, so it was 316 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,239 Speaker 1: just like an accordion. It was just bone like a sandwich. 317 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: And and I was just so smushed I could even 318 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: help her. And she was just you know, they're unconscious 319 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: and you know, bleeding, and I just couldn't do anything. 320 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: And it was probably the craziest and hardest thing that 321 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: I ever had to go through. And you know, the 322 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: first responders and guys are trying to hold me back 323 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: and calm me down, but you know, I'm going you know, 324 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be Superman, but I can't do anything 325 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: because I'm so stuck and my legs are so pinched. Um. 326 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: And and then I finally just calmed down because there's 327 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: two guys just you know trying to hold me down. 328 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: The whole time, and I finally just calmed down and 329 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: and eventually they take out cast and I just like 330 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: it just hit me, like, man, the only way that 331 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: this could have possibly happened is if I fell asleep, 332 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: because I didn't know what happened at the time. So 333 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: I'm just freaking out, I thinking that I fell asleep. 334 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: You know, I'm they marked cast A deceased, but I 335 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: didn't know that, but they marked her as deceased. I'm 336 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: sitting in there of just you know, freaking out that 337 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: I just killed maybe my wife. Um, it was just 338 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: terrifying and just heartbreaking, and just like it was the 339 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: craziest thing that's ever happened to me. I'm just like, 340 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: holy crap, I can't believe I just fell asleep at 341 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: the wheel and just basically killed my wife. And um, 342 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: it was just tough because you know, they separated us 343 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: and and they took us to two different hospitals, so 344 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: I really couldn't see her and I couldn't hear from her. So, 345 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: you know, it was probably the darkest moments of my 346 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: life just sitting there and thought for you know, for 347 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: those uh you know, the time that passed and um, 348 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: you know, I'm calling everyone I can. I'm calling her 349 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: parents to check on her. I'm calling our church, so 350 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: you know, we're part of our church over here, um 351 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: and or over there at the time. So I called 352 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: the church members because that's the only people we knew, 353 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, that was part of the the couple we 354 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: went out with. We met him at church. So I'm 355 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: calling the people from the church to go to the 356 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: hospital that cass was at. UM. I called, I called 357 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: her parents, I called everyone that I can to just 358 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: go check on or go check on or everyone. I 359 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: just try to send as much as people over to her, 360 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: as much as possible so I can see if she's okay. 361 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: And um, about like three hours four hours later, you know, 362 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: they separated us from hospitals because I guess you don't 363 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: take two trauma cases to the same hospital. I finally 364 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: get a call and you know it was her and U. Man. 365 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,719 Speaker 1: Once I knew she was alive, Man, I didn't care 366 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: about anything else. I was just like, man, I'll take 367 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: being alive, you know, Like I know I had probably 368 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: an opportunity to, you know, get some playing time this 369 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: this week. I know that, you know, my careers on 370 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: the line. I know that you know, this, that and 371 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: the other thing that you could be thinking about. None 372 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: of that was what I was thinking about. And um, 373 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: once I knew that we were alive, that's all that mattered. 374 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: And um it was crazy too because that game, Dante 375 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: Hightower goes out with the torn peck Kyle van Nooid 376 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: gets hurt or something like that. So a practice squad 377 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: member whose name is Trevor Riley, he was playing special teams. 378 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: But me and him were Me and him were like 379 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: on the same level. He starts and he goes out there. 380 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: He's a good buddy of mine, So shout out the Trevor. 381 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: He went out there and did his thing. Um, but 382 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: you know, I sometimes look back at him, like, man, 383 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: that could have been me. I could have been starting 384 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: for the Patriots that year. And um anyway, um we 385 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: both survived and we both were alive, and um it 386 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: just put a perspective in our both of our minds 387 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: that man, the really things that matter in this world, 388 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: aren't you know, the the the NFL, the money, the cars, 389 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: the clothes, the cloud, the you know, the followers, the likes, this, 390 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: that and the other thing. The biggest thing that matters, 391 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, in the life for me and my wife 392 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: are you know, family and relationships and and memories that 393 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: you build with you know, those that you really love 394 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: and and and that's that's what That's what it brought 395 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: us back to. It just brought us back to square 396 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: one night, you know, being being a religious man and 397 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: also just being a man of you know, just a 398 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: family guy too, and all that. I do truly believe that, 399 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: you know, it was it was something that needed just 400 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: to reset and to tell, you know, remind me what 401 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: is more important. To keep my eyes you know, focused 402 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 1: on things that are important in this life. And and 403 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: if you do, and if I did keep those things 404 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: important and keep those things you know, um um stable 405 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: and keep those things true, then um, you know, everything 406 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: else will fall into place. And um. Shoot, right when 407 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: I knew that both of us were alive, man, I 408 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: knew that. Gosh, I'm alive. She's alive. I'm gonna play football. 409 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how where now that everything's okay and 410 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna be okay. We're gonna recover from this someplace somewhere, 411 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on a football field. I might be 412 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: a coach. I might be a freaking strength conditioning coach 413 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: on that football field. I might be a player, but 414 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm gonna get back on that field. 415 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get back on that field somehow, some way, 416 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: and shoot, um, you know, three three and a half 417 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: four years later, man, I'm I'm out here doing it again. 418 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: So um, super blessed. And you know, I'm just another 419 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: lesson to just not take things for granted and to 420 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: you know, hug those that are close to you, and 421 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, to uh to tell those that you love 422 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: you love them, and to tell them that I'm on 423 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: a daily basis and not take those things for granted. 424 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: Super beautifully told. I don't know if there's much that 425 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: we can follow up with, and given that it's the 426 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: high on the Spirit, I just want to leave. I 427 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: want to I want you to take us through one 428 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: moment and then let go here. I want you to 429 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: take us through to put a little smile on anyone 430 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: that's listening to this, To go through the moment where 431 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: you first saw your wife after the crash and what 432 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: that was like for you, because you just detailed the 433 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: beautifully all your emotions from beforehand, during to after, and 434 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: you said you were in two different hospitals. But what 435 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: was the moment like And there is a video for 436 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: people that want to see it, make sure to go 437 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: watch it. What was that moment like for you in 438 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: your own words, when you finally saw your wife for 439 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: the first time after the crash? Man, I it you know, 440 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: if if you if you two, if I I assume, 441 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: I assume you guys are married, or at least one 442 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: of you guys are married. I know he's married. I'm 443 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: not married, okay, And um, you know, the biggest thing 444 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: I can make I can compare it to is just, um, 445 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: when your wife's walking down the aisle or that first 446 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: that first side of seeing them in their wedding dress. Um, 447 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: I think that was. That's the biggest thing I can 448 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 1: compare it to. You know. I just I walked in 449 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: there and just like, even though she had you know, 450 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: sevent staples on her head and scratches and bruises and stuff, man, 451 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: she looked just like that day. And man, it just 452 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: it just bought a huge smile my face, Like, gosh, man, 453 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: I I thought I lost you, man, and and now 454 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: you now I'm here with you, and and I get it, 455 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, come over there and give you a big 456 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: old hug and a kiss and just let you know that, 457 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, even though we couldn't control that, but I'm 458 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: gonna try my best to not let anything hurt you 459 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: like that again. So gosh, yeah, it was that was 460 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: that was. That was a moment that I'll never forget. 461 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, I'm just cleaning right now, but um, yeah, 462 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: that was a moment I could never forget. To compare 463 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: it just like just like her walking down the aisle. Man, 464 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: it was just something that that you just that you 465 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: just got to experience on that day and then it 466 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: was it was awesome. That was that was probably the 467 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 1: best part of it all is just you know, reuniting. 468 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: You know, there was a reason I we selected you 469 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: for this podcast this week at this time, because we 470 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: wanted people to hear your story, not just what you've 471 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: done on the football field, but what you and Kessidy 472 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: Kensidy have been able to overcome and what you've experienced, 473 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: and because I think you provide a lot of hope 474 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: for people who are enduring struggles. And it's also um 475 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: a good lesson for people in terms of hey, it 476 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: might not look good right now, but you've got a chance. 477 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: You always got a chance. And uh, I think you 478 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: have a lot of fans and Jets Nation, Harvey. Uh, 479 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: not just by the way you play, but the way 480 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: you conduct yourself off the field as well. I appreciate that. 481 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: And um yeah, anyone out there that's that's watching this 482 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: or listening to this, man, just just know that there's 483 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: always slide at the end of the tunnel, and you know, 484 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: just keep on going because if you do, you know, 485 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: tough times don't the tough times don't last, but tough 486 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: people do. You know, so well, that is the perfect 487 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: way to end this edition of the Official Jets Podcast 488 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: with Harvey Long you, Harvey, appreciate the time, man, I 489 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: appreciate you. Guys, appreciate Jets Nation. Guys. We got a dub. 490 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: We'll get another one. Let's be let's been It's this 491 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: season strong, guys. Just stay with us, keep keep supporting us. Man, 492 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: Just know your boys are out here working and we 493 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: love you. Guys. Appreciate it. Great stuff from Harvey is 494 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: always very nice guy and a great guy to have 495 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: on the Official Jets Podcast. E A. Let's turn the 496 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: table here real quick as the Jets now coming off 497 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: across country flight home, Big win. Now take on the 498 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, who will be playing at MetLife Stadium for 499 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: a second consecutive week. The Browns were impressive from Sunday 500 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: Night Football. The Giants trying to stick, trying to stay 501 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: in the NFC East race, and it was really a route. 502 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: I mean, if it's glee manhandling pretty pretty well. And 503 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: we were talking about that run game, the Browns bringing 504 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: on the ground as well as anybody in the National 505 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: Football League. Um, you know, we always think about Tennessee 506 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: and what they're doing with Derrick Henry, but there's kind 507 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: of a two handed monster there in Cleveland with Nick 508 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: job and then you're also bringing in Kareem Hunt and 509 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. It's kind of went under the radar a 510 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: little bit. And this is a cautionary tale for everybody. Okay, 511 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: when we evaluate quarterbacks, I think a lot of people 512 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: early in the season or after what happened last year, 513 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: they were ready to write Baker Mayfield off. And now 514 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: he's sitting there, hasn't turned the football over a lot. Uh, 515 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: he's playing Winnie football, connecting on a lot of his passes. 516 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: And the Browns are going on to the bluffs. We're 517 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: down four. Yeah, the Browns turn around happened real quick, 518 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: and I think it's a great point about Baker. And 519 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,479 Speaker 1: let's just dive into this matchup a little more with 520 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: Bart Scott for our victorna Swiss Army Knife Player of 521 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: the Game segment. Okay, Bart, so kick us off here. 522 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: Who's your player to watch when the Jets host the 523 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: Browns on Sunday? I mean, for me, it's definitely gonna 524 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: be I know, as you said this every week, but 525 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: I want to see just how good this kid is 526 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: on his first season. I want to see how Beckton 527 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: can handle Myles Garrett. Miles. Garrett is to me the 528 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: most complete um pass rush of the game, meaning that 529 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: he's a guy that can beat you a side, speed, strength, athleticism, 530 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: and I think he poses a problem for Beckton because 531 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: he's not just one dimensional. He's a guy that can 532 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: do multiple things. He can long arm him, he has 533 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: great with his hands, he can bend at the hips, 534 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: and he's explosive and powerful. Um called the class of 535 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: the Titans. So I want to see, you know, he 536 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: passed the test. I think he man hand a Donald 537 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: a little bit, but Donald is a lot smaller, a 538 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: lot shorter um than than than that of Garrett, who's 539 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: on the edge, not in the middle. Let me go 540 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: to the other side of the ball. Ethan Nick Chubb 541 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt two had a monster Chubb is averaging five 542 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: point six yards and carry guys. He's got ton touchdowns. 543 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: But as Bart and I were just discussing, the Jets 544 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: strength defensively predominantly is stopping the run. So if you 545 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: stop the run, what are you gonna do against Baker Mayfield. 546 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: Mayfield over the last four weeks yards passing, ten touchdowns 547 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: and one interception. He's protecting the football. So my matchup 548 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: to watch is Baker Mayfield against the Jets young improving secondary. 549 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: How about Bryce Hall last week with the acrobatic interception. 550 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: Javelyn Gidrey is showing me stuff at the nickel position, 551 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: and the Jets have moved Arthur m Loot, a former 552 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: cornerback to safety to play alongside Marcus may the constant presence. 553 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go away from the run game. Let's 554 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: see if the Jets can play even against the Browns. 555 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 1: Browns are gonna get their yardage on the ground, but 556 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: I think for the Jets to win, they gotta up 557 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: with a couple of takeaways of Baker Mayfield part before 558 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: I give my matchup to watch. I'm just curious, what's 559 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: your take on Nick Chubb, Kareem Hunt, and that Brown's 560 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: rushing attack against the Jets defense, which the point their 561 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: strength is stopping the run. Well, I mean you think 562 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: about you know, the Browns have been able to run 563 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: on pretty much everybody. Nick Chubb, if he didn't get 564 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: injured early in the season, would have probably been tops 565 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: even with Derek Henry. What he's been able to consistently, 566 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: he would have been right up there with for the 567 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: Russian title. But I think what you really have to 568 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: worry about is not, you know, the Russian attack so much. Um, 569 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to worry about Kareem Hunt 570 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: split out at why receiver, his ability to make running 571 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: backs mean linebackers missed, and if he goes out there, 572 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: you you better put a guy like Arthur You gotta 573 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: better put a guy like Marcus may out there. Do 574 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: not let that linebacker out there and be matched up 575 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: against Kareem Hunt because he's done in time and time again, 576 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: week in week out with going against some of these linebackers. 577 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: He may not look like he's to shift this or fastest. 578 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: He's a guy that just finds some way to get 579 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: open and he's great with chetching the football in the 580 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: air high pointed, kissing with his hands and making gods pay. 581 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: So my matchup to watch, I'm going with the other 582 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen draft class quarterback and Sam Donald. 583 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: In this matchup, Baker Mayfield selected number one overall, Sam 584 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: Donald selected number three overall. E A and I were 585 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: talking about this offline that it seemed like Sam Donald 586 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: was very decisive, perhaps his most decisive game as a 587 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: quarterback in the two thousand twenty season, even though you 588 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: look at his numbers, not gaudy by any stretch of 589 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: the imaginations. Maybe this week against the Brown's defense of 590 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: Brown secondary that's been solid, I would say, perhaps mediocre. 591 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: That Denzel Mims brishade powerman can potentially poke some holes 592 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: in that secondary, and maybe Sam Donald can keep the 593 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: Jets or give the Jets an opportunity to win this 594 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: game with his arm. So we'll see what happens. Bart, 595 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: what's your take on the Brown secondary? Before we wrap 596 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: this segment up here, I mean Ward just got back 597 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: last week. Um, he's a guy that when he's playing, 598 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: he's one of the better cornerbacks in the game's competitively scrappy. 599 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: What you have to be careful of is last week 600 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,479 Speaker 1: they were able to get the ball out of Sam's 601 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: hands and under two seconds, and let's see if they're 602 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: able to do that now that if the if the 603 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: Browns decided to sit on these routes and flat foot, 604 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: you say, if you're gonna be that, you're gonna be 605 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: this thrown over top of our head. UM, They're gonna 606 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: have to make sure that the game plans able to 607 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: be UM liquid. Make sure that the game plan is 608 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: able to be able to transfer for if it's not working, 609 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: to be able to go to something else. Because if 610 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: you think that what happened last week and what with 611 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: successful last week is gonna get scouted and the Jets 612 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: aren't gonna walk up on anybody, nobody's gonna look at 613 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: them as a UM winless team. They're gonna look at 614 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: them as a team that they don't want to lose too. 615 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,479 Speaker 1: In the pavle of time in the season where they 616 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 1: need wins and they're trying to jockey for position and 617 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: try not to be the last wild card entry and 618 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: potentially maybe when they play the Stealers have an opportunity 619 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: to win in the picsion, I just want to add 620 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: here the fans listen to part he thinks the Chicago 621 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: Bears could be tripped up by the Jacksonville Jaguars on Sunday. 622 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean I think you know, you 623 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: know that team is ready for market correction. They really 624 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: um benefited from Montgomery tough running inside Jacksonville Miles. Miles 625 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: jack is an outstanding inside linebacker. Let's see if he 626 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: comes to play, and um, let's see what mentu Mania 627 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: decides to go out and understand that. Hey man, they're 628 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: trying to replace me, So let me go in here 629 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: and make sure that I put up the best effort. 630 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: This is a team that had the Minnesota Vikings on 631 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: the ropes and took him the overtime and had opportunity 632 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: win that game. And I think you know right now 633 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: Mr Bisky has been playing well. Um, with that being said, 634 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: it's about time for market correction. Films. Yeah, well yeah, 635 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: what was that I said? Two weeks left in the season. 636 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: Plenty can change. We know that, no doubt, And like 637 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: I said, well, bonus coverage here on the Victorikox Fist 638 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: Army Night Player of the Game segment. That's all we 639 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: have here on the Official Jet Podcast powered by Amazon 640 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: Web Services. Part thanks a lot as always, and we 641 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: got one more of these. I appreciate