1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John and Ken Show on demand 3 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. We're on the radio one till 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 2: four after four o'clock John and Ken on demand the podcast. 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: And if you didn't hear early, you might want to 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: listen to the first segment on the podcast. Really why 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: one o'clock? Well, well, you listen to it, you I 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: know see how it went. Well, Ken is going to 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: be retiring in a month and then three weeks from Wednesday. 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: Three weeks from Wednesday. Not that you're counting, And I'm 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: gonna keep doing this by myself. 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was supposed to it. Well, maybe later 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: I'll answer your question. You want to know what I'm 14 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: gonna do. Yes, I do. 15 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna check you on the I'm gonna take the 16 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: podcast and listen to you over and over again for 17 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 3: twenty four hours a day. 18 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 1: You'll miss my voice? Is that what you think? 19 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: Something ringing in your ears for thirty six years and 20 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: it finally stops. 21 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 4: Uh? 22 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, well there's that all right. You have a chance 23 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: to win money that's coming up around two twenty. We 24 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: have Core keeping an eye on the ten Freeway story. Yes, 25 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: it's still closed there in the area of East LA, 26 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: just outside of downtown Los Angeles. East and West all closed. 27 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 3: They don't know whether it's gonna be weeks or months 28 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 3: before they can make the repairs necessary to make it 29 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: safe to reopen. And we're learning about the less see 30 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: who had that junk yard underneath full of wooden pallets. 31 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: What's that about? Do you think Gavin Newsom is Pete Wilson? 32 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: Oh right? 33 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: How fast they got the earthquake rebuilt after north Ridge? 34 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 2: I got to go tonight revisit those stories and see. 35 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: My memory was it was about three months after and 36 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: that that freeway crumbled. That was really bad. Let's see, yes, this, 37 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: I think it's just structurally unsound. They don't know that 38 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: it will crumbled. 39 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: It didn't crumble right the fire to know, But those 40 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: gam trailers are really bad. 41 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: Because I saw a guy from a helicopter shop, one 42 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: of the workers, standing on the freeway the close parts. 43 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: So I'm thinking, oh, it's all right for him to 44 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: walk around, but obviously all the heavy cars and trucks 45 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: passing through there, that would. 46 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: Be bad news if it all collapsed. So that's why 47 00:01:58,720 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: they had to do that. 48 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: So three point fifteen. Newsom is going to speak, Karen 49 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: Bass is going to speak, and we'll see what we 50 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: can learn about the cause of this fire and possibly 51 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: when it might reopen. Right now, we have an opportunity 52 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: to talk to David Ralston. He is the father of 53 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: one of the victims in Malibu on Pacific Coast Highway 54 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 3: who was run down by a man who was speeding 55 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: along that section of Pacific Coast Highway, a place that 56 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 3: people have called very dangerous for so many years. Has 57 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: been constant reports and recommendations about how to make that 58 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: section of Pacific Coast Highway safer. David is the father 59 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 3: of one of the four women that was killed to 60 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: students at Pepperdine University. Her name is Neve Ralston. So 61 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: let's bring David on and have a chance to talk 62 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: to him about this. 63 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: David, welcome, Hi, Thanks for having me on. Thanks for 64 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: coming on. First, tell us about your daughter. 65 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: Neve. 66 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 5: My daughter, we live here in Los Angeles, grew up here, 67 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 5: was born in Cedar Sinai, so she was a Los 68 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 5: Angeles girl. Went to many fine institutions here in the area. 69 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 5: She went to high school at Oaks Christian High School, 70 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 5: and yeah, she really was excited to be a Pepperdine student, 71 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 5: was about to graduate. She was in her senior year. 72 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 5: As far as you know the type of person that 73 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 5: she was, a couple of things I think I'd like 74 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 5: to say about her. She was a gymnast for about 75 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 5: eight years of her life, and if you know anything 76 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 5: about gymnasts, there's some of the most disciplined athletes that 77 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 5: you can find. She used to do about twenty hours 78 00:03:55,080 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 5: a week of training, and it was very intensive physical training. 79 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 5: She also continued to carry on with kind of a 80 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 5: lifelong interest in nutrition, and you know, kept herself fit. 81 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 5: She was very careful about what she ate and she 82 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 5: actually taught us quite a bit about nutrition. I think 83 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 5: she was one of the first people that I ever 84 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 5: heard of intermittent fasting. She was doing intermittent fasting back 85 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 5: when she was a seventeen or eighteen year old, and 86 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 5: she used to get mad at us if we didn't 87 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 5: have dinner within her window of eight hours in which 88 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 5: she ate. So that's basically the type of girl she was. 89 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 5: She was smart, she was driven. She had graduated high 90 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 5: school at seventeen, and so she was a year early 91 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 5: compared to the most of the people to go to college. 92 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 5: And we got a lot of letters from people since 93 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 5: this has happened, and I guess I would just We 94 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 5: were go and over some of them this weekend, my 95 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 5: wife and I, and there was one that we had 96 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 5: my wife had brought to my attention and this young 97 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 5: woman said she had written. I did not know her closely, 98 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 5: but we were friends and saw each other often at 99 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 5: social gatherings. She always made me feel so welcomed. If 100 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 5: I was standing alone, she would include me. This This 101 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 5: is kind of our daughter. She wanted people to feel happy. 102 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 5: She wanted them to feel included and cared about, and 103 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 5: that was something we were very proud of with her. 104 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 5: She was a beautiful girl and she just had a 105 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 5: lot of friends and people that loved her. 106 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: Did she ever talk about the dangers of that stretch 107 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: of Pacific Coast Highway in Malibu in terms of being 108 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: the student there and you know, going and moving around, No. 109 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 5: I don't. I don't think she thought of things that way, 110 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 5: and she certainly loved being there. Now, she did live 111 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 5: on campus with the other the four that were killed. 112 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 5: Three of them, including my daughter, were roommates. The other 113 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 5: young woman lived off campus, but they lived on campus. 114 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 5: They my daughter loved to go to the beach. She 115 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 5: often went and and swam and along with a lot 116 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 5: of her her friends and the women that she was 117 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 5: in the sorority with. So I think in general people 118 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 5: in Malibu are blissfully ignorant of just how dangerous that 119 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 5: place can be. 120 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: Sounds like you're not, though not anymore. 121 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, now we're much more that this is what happens 122 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 5: when something like this happens to your kid, is you 123 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 5: then end up often meeting other people who may have 124 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 5: been killed in a similar circumstance. And that's very much 125 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 5: what's up into to our family and to the families 126 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 5: of these other three girls that we're all sorority sisters 127 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 5: with with my daughter. 128 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: What do you think of the legal case so far, 129 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: the murder charges against Fraser Boem. 130 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting. I feel like we're somewhat on the 131 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 5: outside of this. I think people kind of need to understand, 132 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 5: if they don't that the cases is being brought by 133 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 5: the state, we're not, you know, we're not. 134 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:38,119 Speaker 4: Well. 135 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 5: I guess we would be at best, you know, possibly 136 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 5: people that would be brought in to testify about certain things. 137 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 5: But it's not like the state is representing us. We 138 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 5: don't have, you know, any kind of special knowledge about 139 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 5: things that have happened there or what the facts of 140 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 5: the case are. I will say I was my wife 141 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 5: and I were the only people that were there on 142 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 5: site the morning following the accident, or you know, I 143 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 5: don't even want to call it an accident. I don't 144 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 5: feel like it was an accident at all, But any rate, 145 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 5: the incident, we were there on site and they had closed 146 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 5: down that stretch of PCH for over fourteen hours. So 147 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 5: my conclusion is that the people that work in law enforcement, 148 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 5: who have to go out in these type of cases 149 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 5: and see what they saw, they took this very seriously 150 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 5: from the start of it. They closed the thing down, 151 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 5: They investigated this thoroughly, and continued to do that in 152 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 5: the week's following. And I think anyone whose family member 153 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 5: might be killed in some circumstance like this would want 154 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 5: to feel like this is the way case was was. 155 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 5: It was handled by law enforcement, and so anything that's 156 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 5: come out since then, I fully am confident that they 157 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 5: have done all their due diligence and investigated this appropriately. 158 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: Are you confident that they'll make any changes with the 159 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: actual highway Pacific Coast Highway to the dangerous stretch. Do 160 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: you think anything will come? I mean, four young women killed, 161 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: do you think that would move the needle? 162 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 5: Yeah? Now, I'm glad you brought that up, because at 163 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 5: this point, that's that's what you you know, one of 164 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 5: the things that we found out. I believe you guys 165 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 5: have talked to Michelle Shane. I'm not sure if it's 166 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 5: true or not. 167 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: But no, yeah, he's a good friend of mine, a 168 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 2: great guy. 169 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and we you know, this is what happens 170 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 5: in the circumstance. Now we have met the Shanes, and 171 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 5: I got to tell you, there is nothing worse than 172 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 5: finding out that this man's beautiful child, who is a 173 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 5: lot like my daughter in the way she was and 174 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 5: what people and her friends said about her, that she 175 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 5: was killed thirteen years ago, and this man took that 176 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 5: tragedy and it worked diligently to try and make some changes 177 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 5: down there, and to find out that literally almost none 178 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 5: of the changes that were part of this twenty fifteen 179 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 5: report one hundred pages or more that was done. And 180 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 5: I believe, you know, I don't want to be wrong 181 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 5: about the facts, but there's something like one hundred and 182 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 5: thirty recommendations, all but a very small few of them 183 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 5: were never implemented, and he put it, he brought it 184 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 5: a great think of one of the interviews I saw 185 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 5: where he said something along the lines of, you know, 186 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 5: it took Caltrans four years to put up signs no 187 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 5: parking signs at this very dangerous stretch where any parking 188 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 5: narrows the road makes it extremely unsafe for pedestrians and residents, 189 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 5: and it took them four years to put up some signs. 190 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 5: So what does that say? And of course I think, 191 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 5: you know, my wife and I think, and can't help 192 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 5: but think, well, geez, if you'd done three or four 193 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 5: other things, would I now be talking to you guys 194 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 5: about the fact that my child was killed there? Something 195 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 5: makes me seriously question whether that would be the case. 196 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 5: You know, I think a lot of people probably look 197 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 5: at this type of thing and don't really think about Malibu, 198 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 5: and you know that that this is like a personal 199 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 5: thing for them. But before this, you know, we having 200 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 5: lived in Los Angeles for many, many years now, probably 201 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 5: twenty five years, that you should be able to well, 202 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 5: I would say that you know, we all consider Malibu 203 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 5: like a Crown Jewel of Los Angeles, and I think 204 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 5: people probably have sent family and friends down there to 205 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 5: go to the beach to see it, or even just 206 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 5: take a drive down pH. And I think that's something 207 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 5: that we should all expect, you should be able to 208 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 5: do in relative safety. But then you find out that 209 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 5: the statistics there are very bad. It's basically, you know, 210 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 5: the average speed, even though it's supposed to be forty 211 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 5: five miles per hour, the average speed is about sixty 212 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 5: plus miles per hour through a beach city. It's just insane. 213 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 5: And because it has the name pH and there's a 214 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 5: highway on there, since you know back in the seventies 215 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 5: that it's okay to just continue on this way, and 216 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 5: it clearly isn't. I mean, I think since twenty ten 217 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 5: you've had fifty eight people killed on this stretch of highway, 218 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 5: you know, which doesn't even begin to you know, to 219 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 5: look at the hundreds of other people and the hundreds 220 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 5: of accidents that have occurred and people that have been injured. 221 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 5: I mean, this is just the people that were flat 222 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 5: out killed. 223 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: In David, we do have to go, but we appreciate 224 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: you talking to us. Our condolences again for the loss 225 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 3: of your daughter, Neve. We appreciate you talking. 226 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 5: To you, yesh, thank you. If I could, I just 227 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 5: wanted to say that if people are interested in this 228 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 5: at all, there is an organization Streets are Safe for 229 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 5: Everyone dot or org. Please go there, look at it. 230 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 5: Also Michelle Sine's film twenty three Miles in Malibu dot com. 231 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 5: There's some things you could do if this is something 232 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 5: important to you and you want to get involved, all right. 233 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: David Wolston, thank you for talking to us. 234 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 5: Thank you. 235 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 3: He's the father of one of the women that was 236 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 3: killed on the Pacific Coasthighway Nabou last month. 237 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: Nive Rolston. 238 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf 239 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 6: I am six forty. 240 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, just talk with David Ralston, the father of Neive Ralston, 241 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: one of the four women at Pepperdiner got to run 242 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: down inlation. 243 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: We still got to give money or thereabouts. 244 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: Because we're gonna have Newsom and Bass talking about the 245 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: ten freeway. 246 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: So right three pin fifteen schedule, we'll see there's a 247 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: window to do this. So we'll see. 248 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: Should we just interrupt the news conference and announce the 249 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: keyword and like in the middle of them, bablin, it 250 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: might be in this space. Oh, by the way, maybe. 251 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: Were getting something to read the key. 252 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be more productive just to give away 253 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: the money rather than listen to him talk about his 254 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 2: leg his it was the posture, right, the yeah posture, 255 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: the legal posture. 256 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: We do have some audio to play from after the 257 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: news at two thirty that we think you might enjoy. 258 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with the ten freeway, but 259 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: we'll explain what it is. 260 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 3: And it sounds like a moment where a politician and 261 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 3: new some of all people just told the plain truth. 262 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: Right, you're right. 263 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: We just spoke to David Ralston. He is the father 264 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: of one of the four young women that was mowed 265 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: down on Pacific Coast Highay and Malibu last month. 266 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: Her name was Neve Rolston. 267 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: And you know what touched me about that, And it's 268 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 3: always this balance. He's trying to say, he knows that 269 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 3: most people are not affected by this, and people do 270 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: get on with their lives. 271 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: You know, they hear the story. 272 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 3: It's sad, but they move on. But you know, he 273 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: and some of the other people who've been and he 274 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 3: mentioned Michelle who's been on our show, John knows them 275 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 3: very well who made the documentary that they're affected by 276 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 3: this because they lost loved ones. So does that mean 277 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 3: we don't do anything because we haven't lost anybody personally 278 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: in the tragedy on Pacific Coast Highway, or you know, 279 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: do you say, well, what can we really do that's 280 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: practical because people need to get places and that's really 281 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: just the pass through point there to get to you know. 282 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see how the battle lines are going 283 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: to fall though, because you can be a tough drive 284 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: depending on the hour, you know, drive during during rush 285 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: hours or during Saturday. 286 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 3: That's really the only road that you have is you 287 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 3: want to drive along that section right. 288 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: It's the only north south road that you can take 289 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: west of the four or five. You if you if 290 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: you're not on the four or five, you have to 291 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: drive all the way to pH to go from south 292 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: to north right and then you could go over the 293 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: hills into the valley that way. And you know, there 294 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: are other there are other roads that that could pass 295 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: through the Santa Monica Mountains, but they they they're they're 296 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: shut down. I know there's one road that is actually 297 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: built and you could take it all the way into 298 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: the valley. But it's closed down because it's the whole 299 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: area is protected for you know, ecological reasons, but it's 300 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: it that's it's it's absolutely necessary because of the way 301 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: LA was built. There's a huge population in the valley, 302 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: huge population on the west side, and it's the only 303 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: way a lot of people can can get from from 304 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: north to south. 305 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 3: But as you said before, especially through Malibu there it's 306 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: like the heart of the town. So you've got some 307 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: shopping centers and people moving around. The people are speeding 308 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: by him, and it's speeding them as forty they're doing sixty, 309 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 3: seventy eighty, and I guess this young guy was doing 310 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 3: maybe one hundred. 311 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 2: And people will say it's like, hey, I didn't go 312 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 2: one hundred and four miles an hour. 313 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: You know, why am I going to get Why would 314 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: I get punished with you? 315 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 3: They're slowing down all of us and it's going to 316 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: make it impossible to get through there. And yeah, I 317 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: don't know how this is going to play out, But 318 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 3: I did feel for him when he said that, because 319 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 3: he knows that's the reality of most people. Because they're 320 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: not personally affected by this tragedy, what do they really 321 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:39,239 Speaker 3: want to do? 322 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: To make a difference in the safety. All right, when 323 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: we come back. 324 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: As promise, we'll play you this audio from Dipity Dew 325 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom. It has nothing to do with the ten 326 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: Freeway closures, something to do with another big event going 327 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: on in California. And I thought, you know, he was 328 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: pretty straight out honest, because it's one of those things 329 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 2: where they don't often want to admit this. 330 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 3: That's next and again at three point fifteen or there about, 331 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: Karen Bass and Gavin Knew Some with an update on 332 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: the ten Freeway closure from that fire. 333 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 334 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 6: AM sixty. 335 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, one to four after four o'clock, Johnny, can I 336 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 2: demand the podcast? 337 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: I never know when you go to finish. I never 338 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: know either. 339 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 2: So next hour Knew Some Bass and the ten Freeway 340 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: closure updates supposed to be around three fifteen. We expect 341 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: they'll be pummeled with questions about this operation that was 342 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: leasing the property underneath the freeway where supposedly the fire 343 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: broke out. All these wood pallettes and other junk and 344 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: a junk yard. 345 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: What kind of business was it? They sell wooden pallets. 346 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: A lot of flammable materials there exactly right, Really, how 347 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: could this happen? We know how this could happen, So 348 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: we don't know. 349 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: I know many of your listeners suspect that the vagrants 350 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 3: had something to do with this. 351 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: There was some encampments there. We don't know, but it 352 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: seems like a good chance. But it could be some 353 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: other reasons. 354 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 3: I mean, it's what it's after midnight on Friday night, 355 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 3: so you know, with the spark trying to stay warm, 356 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 3: right that thing. 357 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 2: Again because this this BS that Newsom was pulling at 358 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: the press conference, was that this morning or yesterday? Yesterday? 359 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:18,239 Speaker 2: But yesterday, Yeah, it's about you know, well this is 360 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: we leashed us out and then there was sudden leases. 361 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: It's like, wait a second, what was the spark? Steve 362 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 2: said inside. 363 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: Where it is? 364 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: The report was put together pretty quickly that it was 365 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 2: obvious what started it. So we'll see and then we'll 366 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: assess whether that is plausible, whether it's true, or. 367 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: Whether there's a cover up. 368 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: Because he also under times wouldn't even acknowledge for the 369 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 2: first twenty four hours that there were homeless under there. 370 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. I do some digging too to find it. 371 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: And then I saw some pictures and some stories that 372 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: there were homeless people having several encampments, and I think 373 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: the admission is they took sixteen people and put them 374 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: in hotels. 375 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but a bunch of others ran away there. 376 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: But we've had hundreds of fires underneath over past is 377 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: started by homeless people. In fact, I remember one day 378 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: our our traffic reporter, I think it was Jeff Bough 379 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: at the time. I remember this clearly. He said there 380 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: were six fires, all burning at the same time under 381 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: six overpasses in the La area, six of them. Yeah, 382 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: so all of a sudden, this one that shuts down 383 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 2: the ten is the first one that's not connected to 384 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: the homeless. 385 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: Really, Okay, all right, well we. 386 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 3: Got some body of newsom This has nothing to do 387 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 3: with the closure of the ten freeway. 388 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: This is up in the Bay area. 389 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 3: San Francisco's hosting this Asian Pacific Economic Conference. 390 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 2: It's gonna bring Old Joe to the city later this week. 391 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: It's gonna bring the president of China Chi Chi to pronounce. 392 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: G g G there. They're gonna be there because I 393 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: guess this is a big deal. 394 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 3: Not to most people, but to people in the inner 395 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: circle of these economic conferences. So so the story that 396 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: came out the other day, don't laugh, but he and 397 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: London Breed went around planting trees. They unveiled a new 398 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 3: tree nursery on south of Market below the freeway interchange guests. 399 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: So the audio we're going to play is apparently newsome 400 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: admitting that they And the other story is have you 401 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: been shoveling away the homeless in preparation for this conference? 402 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 3: Beginning as they began, I think on Saturday, and it 403 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 3: runs all week. And here's what he had to say 404 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 3: about all this. 405 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm really excited. 406 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 7: I know folks say, oh, they're just cleaning up this 407 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 7: place because all those fancy leaders are coming into town. 408 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 4: That's true, because it's true, but it's also true for 409 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 4: months and months and months prior to APEC, we've been 410 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 4: having different conversations and we've raised the bar of expectation 411 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 4: between the city, the county, and the state and our 412 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 4: federal partners as. 413 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 7: Well, that we all have to do more and do better. 414 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: And so that's really the spirit of this. 415 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 7: This is momentum, This is directional. 416 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: I want folks to know. 417 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 7: You see, you're seeing a lot more of this all 418 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 7: around town and all around the Bay Area. There's fifteen 419 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 7: projects like this all around the Bay Area that are 420 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 7: funded and are happening. 421 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 4: We're cleaning up this. 422 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: State really okay. And then you know, we see another 423 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: video from the Tenderloin where. 424 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: The zombies are walking around with scabs on their arms 425 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 2: and legs and trunk and I know, yeah, we're. 426 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: Doing a great job. 427 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 3: Why don't you go where it's the dirtiest and clean 428 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: that up and get those people into treatment that they need. 429 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 3: Don't talk to us about putting some trees in a 430 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 3: median another part of town. 431 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: And the thing is he said there that they're cleaning 432 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: it up because you know, the fancy people are coming down. 433 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: But London Breed, the mayor said yesterday that it was 434 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 2: just perfect timing the opening of the nursery ahead of 435 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 2: the APEC conference. 436 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: This was long planned. That's right. 437 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: Just to be clear, clean up the city every day 438 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 2: and uh he and then she says Apet. Newsom added, Oh, 439 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: this is good. I wonder if we have a clip 440 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: of this. Newsom added that APEX was a forcing function. 441 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 2: What that kept everyone on the same page. 442 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: Oh, they knew the date and when the people would 443 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: be here, so I got to to force them to. 444 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: Do things right. It was a forcing function. I never 445 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: heard that phrase him. 446 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: I life. 447 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 2: No, I got to get the jargon handbook, you said us. 448 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: He came from the tech world, he got all these SATs. Yeah, 449 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: what did I just read about. 450 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: It in this space? And yeah he used to? Uh 451 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: did he used to? 452 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: He he spent some years embedded in tech world, either 453 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 2: he lived with tech guys, or he lived in a 454 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: tech neighborhood, or he worked at it. 455 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: So he uses the jargon. 456 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so it embedded in his brain. And now 457 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: he says these absurd things. 458 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: The flywheel. 459 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 7: Yeah. 460 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: Uh. He also is claiming that this project Clean California 461 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: has cleared three thousand and three hundred encampments across the state. Boy, 462 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 2: do I want proof of that? 463 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: Right? Three fifty thousand more to go. 464 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: I don't know why three thousand, three hundred encampments encampments. 465 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 3: If you do the multiplications, there's the ten people in 466 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: an encampment, that would. 467 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: Be thirty thousand people. Right. 468 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 3: The state, you know, in total, has more homeless than that, 469 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: but not a hell of a lot more. Where La 470 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 3: County has more than that? 471 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: Where did they go? But you would think you would 472 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: notice that, right, So what is the list? 473 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: This is like when years ago when Via Ragosa, a 474 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: spokesman came on the air and claimed a million trees 475 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: were planted, and then we said prove that, and he 476 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 2: brought a print out and it was only fifty eight 477 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 2: thousand trees that had been planted. So list me the 478 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: address for all thirty three hundred encampments. 479 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 3: All right, So we will bring you this news conference 480 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 3: wherever it begins in the three o'clock hour. 481 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: Three fifteen is the scheduled time. 482 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 3: Johnny kenkf I AM six forty live everywhere iHeartRadio. 483 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 2: App and two commemorate Kenon's departure in a month. If 484 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: you haven't heard, he's going to be retiring. We have 485 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: a clip of an interview Ken gave by itself on 486 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: television many years ago, and we're gonna play a short 487 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: clip of that when we come back. 488 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf 489 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 6: I AM six forty. 490 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, Richard Wagner's the column has appeared. I guess 491 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 3: they put it up there after I announced At one 492 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 3: o'clock cafi's John and Ken show host Ken Shampau announce 493 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 3: his retirement on air, and then the subtitle subheading John 494 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 3: Cobet will continue solo until he dies. So you're not 495 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 3: replacing me. There's a rum where you found another Ken 496 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 3: somewhere in a box. 497 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: I ordered her. You're not going to use AI to 498 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: well that I would entertain it actually to put it 499 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: in the lines. That's right. 500 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 3: Since god, we've covered so many topics over the years, 501 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: you probably could recycle him. 502 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: There's nothing new. Everything just keeps repeating over and over again. 503 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 4: Yo. 504 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Actually, well I want to play your clip first, 505 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: and then I got a quick story. Well, let's play 506 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 2: this clip of Ken. We have some clips you're going 507 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 2: to play over the next three weeks to commemorate. 508 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm not leaving the show until December sixth. Yeah. 509 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: So this was nineteen ninety three, a TV interview that 510 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: Ken did with someone named June Cain Miller. 511 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 8: I grew up on Long Island, New York. I was 512 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 8: a CPA on my account. I did that for seven 513 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 8: years in New York City. Matter of fact, I worked 514 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 8: in the trade center that blew up last week. 515 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: But I just got bored with it. And ever since 516 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: I was a kid, I enjoyed radio. 517 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 8: I was fascinated with all the top forty playlists and 518 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 8: the DJs on the air and all the excitement of radio. 519 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 8: And then I got into talk radio later, you know, 520 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 8: I started to listen to Larry King and other people 521 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 8: doing talk radio, rushing inball, people like that, and I 522 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 8: just decided one day, I was about twenty nine years old, 523 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 8: and I said, I've got to give it a shot. 524 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 8: So I went to broadcast school at night while working 525 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 8: for Day Yes Yes in New York. I moved to 526 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 8: Pennsylvania first, a small little cowtown, about five hundred people 527 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 8: and about eight hundred cows. It was kind of weird, 528 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 8: and now everybody owned a couple of cows. You know, 529 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 8: when you start in radio, you gotta go wherever they 530 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 8: give you the job. You gotta start small. This was 531 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 8: nineteen eighty eight, so I would say it was starting 532 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 8: to climb. 533 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: Originally, we didn't do talk radio per se. 534 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 8: We actually played records and then we came in and 535 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 8: did a little talking with each other, and we didn't 536 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 8: take too many phone calls initially, but as talk radio 537 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 8: was built, and eventually moved to a station where we 538 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 8: actually were part of a huge tax revolt in New Jersey, 539 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 8: where we got the people really involved politically. We did 540 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 8: still play records, but we did talk. I just played 541 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 8: music basically, talked did the weather. From there, I moved 542 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 8: to upstate New York and then to New Jersey. I 543 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 8: was in New Jersey for about two and a half 544 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 8: years before we came out here. We want to entertain 545 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 8: first and foremost, we just want to have fun. We 546 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 8: do sometimes discuss things very seriously. We fight and argue, 547 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 8: but essentially that's entertainment too, because some people love to 548 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 8: hear people fight. 549 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm at my own funeral. 550 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, just to be clear, that was the nineteen ninety 551 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 3: three assault on the World Trade Center in New York, 552 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: not the big one on nine to eleven. 553 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 2: That's what I was referring to there, right that I 554 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 2: remember that the bombing that did her. 555 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 3: I think a couple of people were killed in the 556 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 3: original nineteen ninety three World Trade Center bombing, but I 557 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: didn't want to make a light of it there because 558 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 3: you heard me say it in passing. But obviously they 559 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 3: came back right eight years later. 560 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, same crowd, the same crowd, right, So that was 561 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 2: that was June Kane Miller? 562 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: What was that was? That a cad you were. 563 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 3: Out, you were on a vacation trip with your wife 564 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 3: or something, and I don't know, I decided, this is 565 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 3: our first year, we needed the publicity. So yeah, it 566 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: was some sort of cable show. That's ko kdoc Oh, 567 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: that's in Orange. 568 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: County Channel fifty six. There you go, All right, there 569 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: you go. That's that is a really forgotten nugget, there 570 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 2: it is. 571 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: I remember we played it at the anniversary show a 572 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: few years back. I think we did so. 573 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: A few weeks ago we got approached by a production 574 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: company that's dealing a something on the Menendez brothers. It's 575 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: because they're still up on an appeal or something. 576 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 3: Gar Go's involved, Yeah, because they want to redraw that 577 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 3: other people have said they were abused by the father, 578 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 3: that maybe there's. 579 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: Hope here, right, So they're doing a retrospective on that 580 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: in terms of the impact on the culture at the time, 581 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: and what would the coverage and impact be today, you know, 582 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: because people are much more open to abuse excuses than 583 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: they were thirty years ago. 584 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: I see. 585 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: So they wanted some clips of our coverage of that. 586 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: And you remember we did a hunger strike frieda the Menenda. 587 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: We did a Friday, the yard guard sale. You know, 588 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: we raised four thousand dollars for Gil Garcetti to prosecute 589 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: the Menendez brothers, father of Erica, because they had botched 590 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: the first trial and they claimed they gil Garcedi was 591 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: coming in and have enough money, and so some lawyer 592 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: in Chicago sent him fifty dollars and we saw that 593 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: and decided, Oh, have a full blowing yard sale. And 594 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: CAFI listeners brought all kinds of junk and we went 595 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: to our teaser, a gun club, and. 596 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: So I had the money. 597 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: We had the money, and we offered it to Gil 598 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 2: and Gil said no, and I went on a hunger 599 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: strike for fifty one hours. 600 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 3: Damn mombe that guy brought in that terrible green drink. Yeah, 601 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 3: to give you nutrients. You were riding on the floor 602 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: one time. 603 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: So Malibu, you got the clip. Oh all right, go ahead, 604 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: play the clip. 605 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: Garcetti all along has complained he didn't have enough money 606 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 2: during the Menendez trial. So we organized the yard sale, 607 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: sold a live junk, raised four thousand dollars. Hundreds of 608 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: people came. 609 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 8: After Garciti refused to take the money, John went on 610 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 8: a hunger strike, which began fifty one hours ago. 611 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: We also had a guy giving up his liver medication 612 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: in Long Beach. Did we get his numbers? We can 613 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: check U see if he stole alive. We've put in 614 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: a call to him. He isn't answering the phones. He's 615 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: not answering his phone. He's not answering what if he's 616 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: lying on the floor reaching for the medication and last 617 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: e effort to save himself. It's gonna be How is 618 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: that going to look on the news. It's gonna be 619 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: on garcetties and yours. 620 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: I didn't tell him to do it. 621 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: You did a Gandhi and prompted him to get into this. Wow, 622 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: it's kind of creepy hearing that. It really sound took 623 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: us from the nineteen thirties. At the audio, it's so 624 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: muffled and well. 625 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: I had a box of. 626 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: Tapes, lots of boxes of tapes right in the basement 627 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: for that year now, and I found some some cassettes 628 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: and I sent them over to the production company and 629 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 2: they're going to listen to a few. But I was 630 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: looking over the titles of all the cassettes for that year, 631 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: and there's some stuff like, wow, it's the same thing, 632 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: isn't it. It's just all that we just cycled that, 633 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: and there's a there's a few things unique to its 634 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: time and some stuff that has been settled over the years, 635 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 2: but a lot of it was like, oh man, this 636 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 2: is just we've just been rerunning the same crap. 637 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: All right. Uh. 638 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 3: Sometime around three point fifteen, Gavinue's some Karen Baths. 639 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: How excited are you? 640 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 3: An update on the closure of the ten Freeway due 641 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 3: to that fire. 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