Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from the
Speaker 1: home office in Austin, Texas, and it's hot. But we
Speaker 1: also just got some hot news off the press, some
Speaker 1: incredible news from our bachelor family. Claire Crawley is pregnant. Yay.
Speaker 1: Her and Ryan announced today on social media that they
Speaker 1: are expecting. They have been trying for quite some time,
Speaker 1: and just unbelievable joy. If there was ever a woman
Speaker 1: who came through our show that wanted to be a mom,
Speaker 1: aspired to be and just put that out in the universe,
Speaker 1: it was Claire. And so the fact that this has
Speaker 1: come to fruition is a beautiful, beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: Wait, I didn't know that being the mom was the
Speaker 2: biggest I guess I always think of Claire as like
Speaker 2: she like she'd been through so much.
Speaker 3: Let her find the right things.
Speaker 1: The one was definitely that was that needed to happen first.
Speaker 1: But she talked about so this is kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: Back in May, late May, when we were all in
Speaker 1: Santa Barbara together, yes.
Speaker 2: We did the concert and recorded some podcasts and we
Speaker 2: met Claren, we met Ryan and Gosh it was so
Speaker 2: nice to see them together because what a sweet guy
Speaker 2: he is. And you did the podcast with her.
Speaker 1: So Claire and I had a moment outside in the
Speaker 1: courtyard and she confided in me that she was pregnant.
Speaker 3: You are a good secret keeper.
Speaker 1: It's my job, It's what I do.
Speaker 3: True, He's actually a lot of secrets over the years.
Speaker 1: I actually texted her today and I said, I'm so
Speaker 1: glad we can finally talk about this. And she said,
Speaker 1: I know, keeping a secret. I said, you know, professionally,
Speaker 1: it's what I do. But so she this is late May.
Speaker 1: She confided in me that she was pregnant. They had
Speaker 1: been trying, but it was way too early to let
Speaker 1: anybody know, but she wanted to let me know. And
Speaker 1: I almost broke out in tears. But what was interesting,
Speaker 1: and I was I was waiting to see if you noticed,
Speaker 1: because you are such a sleuth. At dinner, when we
Speaker 1: were all raising a glass making a toe, they weren't drinking.
Speaker 1: Claire did not drink, and.
Speaker 3: Oh, well, I don't.
Speaker 2: I didn't notice it because you know, and I guess
Speaker 2: I'm a good journalist and I've talked to her about
Speaker 2: this before.
Speaker 3: I don't think Claire is a big drinker.
Speaker 1: But and I don't know this about Ryan, but what
Speaker 1: I thought was savvy was I watched Ryan. Ryan wasn't drinking.
Speaker 1: So when you have the appearance that, oh they just
Speaker 1: aren't drinking, it's not a big deal. It didn't. It
Speaker 1: didn't really spark anybody's and we're look, we were sitting
Speaker 1: with a lot of bachelor people, so maybe they don't
Speaker 1: really look out orly. They look inwardly, yea. But it
Speaker 1: was funny. I just because I knew going into that dinner,
Speaker 1: I was just looking at things going I wonder if
Speaker 1: anybody's noticing.
Speaker 3: That, like picking up on it.
Speaker 1: Well, but I was excited in that. In that same interview,
Speaker 1: I asked her back in May, even though I knew
Speaker 1: this is really bad journalism, but I knew she was pregnant,
Speaker 1: and I went ahead and asked her, because I had
Speaker 1: written the question ahead of time, are you looking to
Speaker 1: have more kids? Because she's a step mom. And I said,
Speaker 1: you know, are you and Ryan and have kids of
Speaker 1: your own? And she kind of gave him and hauled
Speaker 1: around it, but basically gave me this ry smile of like,
Speaker 1: we'll see what the future holds. But the future holds
Speaker 1: a baby for them. Baby Dawkins will be the name.
Speaker 2: I think she is maybe the best example, but correct
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. There could be or add to
Speaker 2: it of like the weight being worth it. She has
Speaker 2: been again dated people on several seasons of the show
Speaker 2: in different forms, and ultimately now has found this guy
Speaker 2: who's so amazing and is getting the baby. And I
Speaker 2: feel like just she's waited and pushed through and now
Speaker 2: has everything she's wanted.
Speaker 1: And I think and go back and listen to the
Speaker 1: episode it was back in May. You can go back
Speaker 1: on wherever you find your podcast and listen to the
Speaker 1: interview with Claire Crawley, because we talked about that, and
Speaker 1: while I didn't phrase it like that, I will paraphrase
Speaker 1: essentially how she feels. And I think she would agree
Speaker 1: that she probably pushed a little too hard for the
Speaker 1: fairy tale early on, even in the Bachelor, maybe manifested
Speaker 1: it a little too much, and it's one thing to
Speaker 1: put it out in the universe, and it's another thing
Speaker 1: to try and force the cards. I think she will
Speaker 1: be the first one to say patience is a virtue,
Speaker 1: and her patients led to this wonderful guy who we
Speaker 1: love Ryan and now a baby and a family and anyway,
Speaker 1: just all the love in the world. And as I
Speaker 1: sent her a message today, I just wish her all
Speaker 1: the love and all the good health as they prepare
Speaker 1: to have their little baby. Now to something not so rosy,
Speaker 1: this is a hard reset. Did you see the story
Speaker 1: about Jonah Hill and his ex girlfriend Sarah Brady. So,
Speaker 1: Joni Hill, obviously the actor comedian, came out he was
Speaker 1: dating this surfer slash model, Sarah Brady, and she took
Speaker 1: to Instagram and put out multiple screenshots of alleged texts
Speaker 1: between the two of them, personal text messages while they
Speaker 1: were in a relationship. And these were alleged texts that
Speaker 1: had Jonah in a not so glowing light asking her
Speaker 1: to remove any photos and videos of her surfing that
Speaker 1: showed her ass and a thong from her Instagram page.
Speaker 1: Really just worried about anything that he considered sexual in nature.
Speaker 1: And I have some serious thoughts on this on so
Speaker 1: many levels.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, we'll take it away.
Speaker 1: Well, one, I don't love this from Sarah's standpoint. I
Speaker 1: don't agree with going public and outing Jonah Hill. Now
Speaker 1: I'm not defending Jonah. And I'll get to that, because
Speaker 1: Jonah has his issues and there's a list of those,
Speaker 1: and I'll get to them. But first and foremost, if
Speaker 1: this was not Jonah Hill and this was Josh Smith,
Speaker 1: would Sarah have gone public? Would this have been a
Speaker 1: story that she would have wanted out there? Would anybody
Speaker 1: have cared? He wasn't. While while he may have been
Speaker 1: toxic and insecure, was he abusive? Did he do anything illegal?
Speaker 1: I will contend that he showed her his cards. He
Speaker 1: was very honest about who he was. If you want
Speaker 1: to take those as red flags and run for the hills,
Speaker 1: that's on you. I don't think it's really fair to
Speaker 1: bury Jonah publicly through private messages that he intended for you.
Speaker 1: And I will take this to the next level, pictures
Speaker 1: that you exchange in your relationship messages. All those things
Speaker 1: I think have to be locked in a vault and
Speaker 1: thrown away if they're not going to be used as
Speaker 1: evidence for something real. I mean, I'm talking to crime,
Speaker 1: something abusive, something very serious. If you're just unhappy with
Speaker 1: how things ended, you don't get to use that as
Speaker 1: a ammunition. And I just don't think as a man
Speaker 1: or woman, you get to go back and do that.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about her.
Speaker 3: I do you mind it?
Speaker 2: Am I weighing out?
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, You're like, you know, I'll get to Joan in
Speaker 1: a second. I just wanted to get to her that
Speaker 1: I don't think this should ever have been public.
Speaker 2: So I agree in that. Look, we have all been
Speaker 2: in toxic, unhealthy relationships, especially when we're in our you know, teen's, twenties, thirties,
Speaker 2: but for some older and I would not want I
Speaker 2: don't think anyone would want their worst arguments from text,
Speaker 2: message or whatever from their relationships posted for all the
Speaker 2: world to see and to be up there to define them.
Speaker 2: You don't want your worst moment, which you might regret.
Speaker 2: For all we know he might have, he might really
Speaker 2: regret those times to define you publicly. That's kind of
Speaker 2: the danger of the social media world that we live
Speaker 2: and now.
Speaker 3: And I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I do think there's caveats of like, Look, sometimes it's
Speaker 2: been important when people are in really really scary situations
Speaker 2: and they need evidence shown and they need to like
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm thinking of the Harvey Weinstein situation. I'm
Speaker 2: so glad all those women shared their stories, and this
Speaker 2: is someone who is so abusive with his power and
Speaker 2: a criminal in Hollywood was taken.
Speaker 1: Get on a lesser level, say someone comes after you
Speaker 1: and this is the only way you can defend your name,
Speaker 1: your whatever. There's certain caveats to this. I agree, but
Speaker 1: just just to kind of like get the court of
Speaker 1: public opinions.
Speaker 2: And the thing is, actually, I don't think it's benefiting
Speaker 2: her either. I think she had a misstep here. From
Speaker 2: kind of the responses I was seeing from people online,
Speaker 2: a lot of people were like.
Speaker 3: This isn't the worst thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Look, it is interesting if you get into the specifics
Speaker 2: of his words how people are reacting. Some people are saying, look,
Speaker 2: he was being really clear with you about his boundaries,
Speaker 2: because he was saying things things that I don't agree with,
Speaker 2: but things like, look, I don't want you hanging out
Speaker 2: with I'm paraphrasing, but I don't want you hanging out
Speaker 2: with other men.
Speaker 3: That's a boundary for me.
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, if somebody's telling you they don't want you
Speaker 2: to have friendships with other people, that's not healthy.
Speaker 3: That is not healthy.
Speaker 2: But some people are saying he was showing you who
Speaker 2: he was. He was setting his boundaries, you know, and
Speaker 2: you should have gotten like you got to get out
Speaker 2: of that if you don't agree.
Speaker 1: He said, surfing with men and posting sexual.
Speaker 2: People because she's a professional surfer, how could she not
Speaker 2: be surfing with men again.
Speaker 1: I'll get to him, but violated his boundaries boundaryless inappropriate
Speaker 1: friendships with men. This is what you're alluding to, he said.
Speaker 1: This is what she said. Sarah said that. Jonah texted,
Speaker 1: if you can't meet these boundaries, I'm not the right
Speaker 1: partner for you. If these things bring you to a
Speaker 1: place of happiness, I support it and there will be
Speaker 1: no hard feelings. These are my boundaries for romantic partnership,
Speaker 1: he wrote.
Speaker 3: So don't agree with what his boundaries are.
Speaker 1: Right again, I have major issues. Well he has major issues,
Speaker 1: but he's just telling you this is how I feel
Speaker 1: a healthy relationship should be. If you don't like that
Speaker 1: surf off into the sunset with all your guy friends,
Speaker 1: that's on you. This isn't on him, And to your
Speaker 1: other things, she said this. I decided to share these
Speaker 1: alleged messages from Jonah in order to help her to
Speaker 1: help heal, noting that keeping quiet had caused damage to
Speaker 1: her mental health.
Speaker 2: Here's why I don't think that's fair, because she wasn't
Speaker 2: being lampooned in the press as if she did something wrong.
Speaker 3: I didn't even remember these two dated.
Speaker 1: I din'body's gonna be scare that Jonah and Sarah broke up.
Speaker 3: I didn't. I'm not aware of the surfing world. I
Speaker 3: didn't know who she was. I was.
Speaker 2: I didn't know they dated nor broke up. So I
Speaker 2: don't understand in this case why you need to share
Speaker 2: publicly to heal. If you weren't being lampooned publicly, put
Speaker 2: on trial publicly, then why do you need to share
Speaker 2: your side publicly? That I didn't understand, and I don't
Speaker 2: agree with.
Speaker 1: Using that as a safety net and a catch all.
Speaker 1: I also don't think is fair because then you're above reproach.
Speaker 1: You get to that point where, okay, now what does
Speaker 1: he say? Now what does anybody say? Oh? He was
Speaker 1: about my mental health? So that those are my problems
Speaker 1: with Sarah Jonah. You are immensely insecure. Also not a shocker.
Speaker 1: What great comedian or comedic actor is not kind of
Speaker 1: a broken, frail, insecure person. That's usually where comedy comes
Speaker 1: from that is the trauma. How many great comics do
Speaker 1: you know, or I mean, other than maybe maybe Neighborgatzi
Speaker 1: might be the only one, but most are pretty dark,
Speaker 1: messed up, kind of insecure people. The great ones usually are.
Speaker 1: And I think Jonah is a pretty good comedic actor,
Speaker 1: but unbelievably, you know, insecure. If you can can't handle that,
Speaker 1: and well, look, it's odd being able to articulate that.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's obvious why these two broke up, and
Speaker 2: I would say to both of them, you guys, it
Speaker 2: was pretty clear he doesn't think you should be posting
Speaker 2: in a swimsuit and surfing with men.
Speaker 3: That's literally your job is to wear a swimsuit and surf.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's something that is also interesting that's come up
Speaker 2: as like a big headline similar to this is Keiki
Speaker 2: Palmer and the father of her child. If I'm getting
Speaker 2: it right, she was wearing an outfit she went to
Speaker 2: go see an usher shown Vegas. He has a residency there,
Speaker 2: and she was wearing an outfit that showed her her
Speaker 2: butt a little bit, and it was a sexy outfit
Speaker 2: and she looked great, and he posted publicly on Instagram
Speaker 2: publicly he said that she shouldn't be wearing that, that
Speaker 2: she's the mother of a child, that she should be
Speaker 2: covering herself up.
Speaker 3: I sure did no, the father of a baby did yes? Yes, yes, So.
Speaker 2: He got taken down on social media. I mean he
Speaker 2: literally went back and deleted the posts. I think he
Speaker 2: went private. People are like, what are you thinking? They've
Speaker 2: now I believe unfollowed each other. And this is someone
Speaker 2: who is the father of a child, who she was
Speaker 2: I think, in a relationship with, so it's maybe broken
Speaker 2: them up. And it's interesting because I certainly don't think
Speaker 2: men should be controlling what women where. They shouldn't be
Speaker 2: weighing in on that. However, when you're in a relationship,
Speaker 2: some people have feelings about like how private they want
Speaker 2: their partner's body to be to them, how personal, how
Speaker 2: intimate that is. And I can understand that perspective for sure,
Speaker 2: but like that's the thing. You have to set these
Speaker 2: boundaries in your relationship. And for Jonah Hill, it just
Speaker 2: seems so stunned obvious to me. You knew from the
Speaker 2: beginning you were dating a surfer, right, and how's she.
Speaker 3: Not going to be on a swim in a swimsuit?
Speaker 1: On Instagram and before the relationship, as they were getting
Speaker 1: into it, he commented on how much he liked a
Speaker 1: lot of these pictures, and so it's they can both
Speaker 1: be wrong in this situation, and they both are Jonah
Speaker 1: unbelievably wrong, and how he kind of every take he had,
Speaker 1: and I don't love Sarah for doing what she did.
Speaker 3: I want to get to.
Speaker 2: Something that's not just one headline, but multiple and I
Speaker 2: can't even keep track. Kevin Costner and his wife Christine
Speaker 2: splitting up. It is just article after article about the
Speaker 2: money at stake in this marriage, in this breakup, and
Speaker 2: how much they are not on the same page. I
Speaker 2: think at one point there's a headline she was asking
Speaker 2: for two hundred and twenty nine thousand dollars a month
Speaker 2: in support. She she wouldn't leave the house. She said
Speaker 2: she didn't he was trying to kick her out. Headlines
Speaker 2: about how he limited her credit card spending to thirty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a month, about how she was challenging their prenup.
Speaker 2: It is just over and over different news about the
Speaker 2: money at stake here, and it's making me sad, and
Speaker 2: I also it's making me uncomfortable. I don't want to
Speaker 2: know this much about their finances, and it just got
Speaker 2: you read the articles and you just feel that bitterness
Speaker 2: of a couple that was once in love and now
Speaker 2: it's just all about money and trying to hit each
Speaker 2: other where it hurts, and feeling like they owe me
Speaker 2: this and they owe me that, and it's just really dark.
Speaker 2: I think couples today are probably all across the board.
Speaker 2: Like I know some friends who are married and still
Speaker 2: maintain different checking accounts, and then some people who share everything.
Speaker 3: What do you think.
Speaker 1: I think it has a lot to do with when
Speaker 1: you start your relationship where you are. It makes sense
Speaker 1: when you're eighteen years old and you have twenty dollars
Speaker 1: to your name, and your name really doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: much whether you keep your last name or change where
Speaker 1: we are, say you and I right now, you're not
Speaker 1: going to change your name. Like changing your name at
Speaker 1: this point in your life and in your career would
Speaker 1: I think not help you. So keeping your name or
Speaker 1: taking mine it doesn't matter to me. Like to me,
Speaker 1: it's like I don't need that. I'm not so old
Speaker 1: school conservative. The same thing with money, I think you
Speaker 1: just have to be as long as you're open, honest,
Speaker 1: and everybody knows where you know, all the bodies are buried,
Speaker 1: so to speak. And if you want to keep that
Speaker 1: separation of church and state, I think that's smart and
Speaker 1: it's fine, and economically tax wise, it can make a
Speaker 1: lot of sense as well. So I think it depends
Speaker 1: on when you know when you get together. But if
Speaker 1: if you're building everything together from day one, when you're
Speaker 1: twenty years old, stuff just gets in correct.
Speaker 2: Of course, you're right that history and the amount of
Speaker 2: time you've been together and at what age you come
Speaker 2: into the relationship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I like, changing my name wasn't even
Speaker 3: a thought for me.
Speaker 2: I've used I mean, first of all, I love my
Speaker 2: name and I've used it professionally, and I don't.
Speaker 3: Agree with I mean, now we're getting onto that.
Speaker 2: But I do have some friends who, like their husbands,
Speaker 2: really wanted them to change their last name. And I've
Speaker 2: never understood that if you want to do it, that's great,
Speaker 2: But for it to be this necessary thing, I would
Speaker 2: say to the other person, well, why don't you change
Speaker 2: your last name to mine? Then it should be like,
Speaker 2: if it's that important to you, then you should be
Speaker 2: willing to go the other way too.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind the monogram cz.
Speaker 3: Cz Zema's great.
Speaker 2: It's sure, it's easy to say, easy to remember, you
Speaker 2: know where you stand in the alphabet.
Speaker 1: Chrisima. It's a little the literation sounds alike a little
Speaker 1: too much. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I also have some friend to me money when it
Speaker 2: becomes an issue, and hopefully I think we have a
Speaker 2: really good situation where it's just kind of easy for us,
Speaker 2: Like we both trust each other's decisions on expenses. Neither
Speaker 2: of us are big spend thrifts on something, and we
Speaker 2: talk about it and we really always seem to be
Speaker 2: on the same page.
Speaker 3: But for some people they're not.
Speaker 2: I think it's an issue when money becomes control. Like
Speaker 2: I have a friend who it's actually affected our friendship
Speaker 2: really and it's kind of like her relationship with her
Speaker 2: husband kind of. I had to start pulling back a
Speaker 2: little bit because I so disagreed and it hurt me
Speaker 2: to watch what I think is like some worrisome behavior
Speaker 2: she's in. Her husband has her on a budget and
Speaker 2: she is only allowed to spend this much and she
Speaker 2: doesn't have any credit cards of her own. And I
Speaker 2: said to her, like it worries me that you can't
Speaker 2: book a plane ticket if you need to, you can't
Speaker 2: like you have to call him and ask for more
Speaker 2: money if you've run out of gas Like that worries
Speaker 2: me because it makes me feel like you're not able
Speaker 2: to be in control of your own life and your
Speaker 2: yeah run into Yeah No.
Speaker 1: Look now, if there is the issue of someone just
Speaker 1: can't keep you out of debt and they just always
Speaker 1: sign up for credit cards and are running you into
Speaker 1: bankruptcy and they're just not fiscally responsible, maybe you have
Speaker 1: to take some steps. In this case, that's not the situation, right,
Speaker 1: but I could see where that could be. If one
Speaker 1: of you is completely out of whack, do you.
Speaker 3: Have an issue You're a what was the chopaholic?
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever, and you're bringing home ten thousand dollars worth
Speaker 1: of clothes and you're making one thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 1: That's not great.
Speaker 2: I think when you start to fight two is when
Speaker 2: things become very like it's got to be exactly fifty
Speaker 2: to fifty or something. I'm not saying it's like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, try.
Speaker 3: To make it that way.
Speaker 2: But we have friends who, well, if this, if he's
Speaker 2: going to buy this then I'm going to buy that.
Speaker 2: And it's when you get in that tet a tet
Speaker 2: it becomes I don't know, toxic.
Speaker 3: So the toxic to say the least.
Speaker 2: About Kevin Costner and his wife, I hope they work
Speaker 2: it out because all I keep thinking is their kids
Speaker 2: are going to read all these headlines one day, you know,
Speaker 2: and it's sad.
Speaker 1: Do you believe in there is no bad press? Because
Speaker 1: ari Anomatics is taking that to the nth degree. Now Arianomatics,
Speaker 1: who is coming out of the scandal all from vander
Speaker 1: Pump Rules. I mean, this woman's taken over the world.
Speaker 1: Now she is going on Dancing with the Stars, which
Speaker 1: I'm a little shocked that they allowed her to do
Speaker 1: an ABC Disney show.
Speaker 3: Oh you mean just from because it's an She's ABC.
Speaker 1: Lavo, NBC Peacock World, like she's staying in there. She's
Speaker 1: also appearing on Love Island, which is interesting.
Speaker 2: Which is is that that's Peacock, that's NBC Peacock. So
Speaker 2: that's our friend Sarah Hyland.
Speaker 1: Yes, and so she's over in Fiji making an appearance.
Speaker 1: I think she shows up in episode two of the
Speaker 1: upcoming season of Love Island. I'm like, Okay, I get that.
Speaker 3: That's coin of s energy.
Speaker 1: It's a crossover synergy. I was really shocked that it
Speaker 1: wasn't shocked that they tried to cast her on Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars because dancing needs that. I was shocked
Speaker 1: that Bravo and them let her out to do that.
Speaker 2: And could be a smart move by them though, to
Speaker 2: get some Dancing with the Stars has typically an older audience.
Speaker 2: Get some older audience as aware of vander Pump Rules
Speaker 2: as a show.
Speaker 1: If you're looking for the winner of the scandalval it's Arianna.
Speaker 2: I was going to ask why you said, why you
Speaker 2: introduced this with is there no such thing as bad press?
Speaker 3: Because I don't think she's gotten any bad press.
Speaker 1: She was just a part of this. She was a
Speaker 1: part of this whole things scandal. Yeah, she's a part
Speaker 1: of the scandal and had to watch it play out
Speaker 1: and had to be a part of that. You know,
Speaker 1: is she isn't she? Are they going to get back together?
Speaker 1: And so obviously she's come out on top. God bless
Speaker 1: her and her team because they're like, no, girl, we're
Speaker 1: going to go out and we're going to monetize this.
Speaker 1: Good for you.
Speaker 3: I have to applaud how they've handled everything.
Speaker 2: They've done every She's done several Instagram ads, and every
Speaker 2: one of them has been so clever. Like also, you know,
Speaker 2: I think in marketing, when you have such a clear narrative,
Speaker 2: it's easy to do a really good ad.
Speaker 3: It's easier to do a really good ad. But they've
Speaker 3: done great. I mean she did.
Speaker 2: I think she did it for batteries, and she's like,
Speaker 2: you know, well, when I've been when maybe I need
Speaker 2: to like enjoy myself because I'm or like when I've
Speaker 2: been zapped of my energy. She's just been really smart
Speaker 2: with the choices she's made. She's held her head up
Speaker 2: high the whole time. And as many Bravo fans have said, gosh,
Speaker 2: the irony that Tom Sandoval was the one who really
Speaker 2: in their couple wanted to be famous, and now she's
Speaker 2: kind of achieving all his dreams. Karma is real.
Speaker 1: Karma's a bitch, dude.
Speaker 3: Do you believe in karma? Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh, Karma's undefeated.
Speaker 3: We've seen some karma in our lives in the past
Speaker 3: couple of months.
Speaker 1: We have seen some amazing karma in the last year.
Speaker 1: For sure. I think karma comes around.
Speaker 3: I have a caveat there. Tell me how you feel.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: I just believe.
Speaker 2: I believe in the energy that's out in the world,
Speaker 2: which I think karma is. And I think that karma
Speaker 2: comes to fruition when you've held your head high, when
Speaker 2: you've kept your side of the street clean, when you've
Speaker 2: taken you know, the high road in a situation, I
Speaker 2: think you earn karma. I don't think karma comes when
Speaker 2: you're like getting down and dirty, just like the other
Speaker 2: side is.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like to sit back, as you said, keep
Speaker 1: your side of the street clean and let the universe
Speaker 1: take care of itself.
Speaker 2: And that's when karma feels good, because you think I
Speaker 2: held my own here and that person got what they deserved.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we've gotten to watch a lot of dishes
Speaker 1: of karmel I.
Speaker 3: Worried about it.
Speaker 2: They're served piping hot and sometimes you got to wait
Speaker 2: a while, but it does happen.
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily in the Bravo world. So Tom and Raquel, like,
Speaker 1: are they doing anything other than vander Pump Like they
Speaker 1: have they had any residual bounce from this.
Speaker 3: They have both signed up to film again and they
Speaker 3: are filming again. But I don't.
Speaker 2: I've not seen the Instagram ads and the opportunities and
Speaker 2: the offers come their way.
Speaker 1: So the scoreboard is Ariana twelve, Tom and Raquel zero.
Speaker 3: If I was dancing with the stars scoring her, she'd
Speaker 3: get a big ten.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's a ten. I'm now singing on a stage, shirtless,
Speaker 1: in a gross Hollywood bar. Yeah, helping some groupies by
Speaker 1: Tom Sandov's.
Speaker 3: Still hold none of that white nail polish.
Speaker 1: God bless his heart. Oh, speaking of white nail polish,
Speaker 1: you just let us ride into Dennis Rodman.
Speaker 3: Ah, yes, I'm.
Speaker 1: Known back in the day for his nail polish.
Speaker 3: His hair color, hair color.
Speaker 1: Well, now he's known for a face tattoo.
Speaker 3: This was unexpected for me.
Speaker 1: So Dennis Rodman, of course the NBA icon He played
Speaker 1: with Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen. He was part of the Dynasty,
Speaker 1: part of the Last Dance as it were, won multiple championships,
Speaker 1: the king of rebounding in the NBA. Sixty two years old.
Speaker 1: He's dating a thirty one year old woman, Yelli Yella.
Speaker 1: Dennis Rodman is getting a tattoo of yellow yellow on
Speaker 1: his face.
Speaker 3: He got it. It's there.
Speaker 1: It's a face ted. I'm looking at the picture right now,
Speaker 1: go online, take a look at Rodman's tattoo. A tattoo.
Speaker 1: Can we start Let's just not go the woman yet,
Speaker 1: Let's just go face tattoo. Cry for help.
Speaker 2: I don't ever think of face tattoo comes across like
Speaker 2: a stable choice. I'm trying not to judge. I'm not
Speaker 2: personally into tattoos. I don't judge them. Get them if
Speaker 2: you want, that's your thing. But I think a face
Speaker 2: tattoo like it's different, there's something different about it. Where
Speaker 2: because I guess because you think you'd never have the
Speaker 2: opportunity to cover this up if you wanted to.
Speaker 3: How's this going to age as your face ages?
Speaker 1: Like my tattoo? My tramp stamp that I have is
Speaker 1: a dolphin swimming over a rainbow, And I think that's timeless.
Speaker 1: What would you have done if the first time we
Speaker 1: were intimate and you look and I have a tramp stamp.
Speaker 1: I'm done, it's over.
Speaker 3: I think. So I think so talk about a red flag.
Speaker 1: So I think of like Mike Tyson face tattoo. It's
Speaker 1: just it never seems to be.
Speaker 3: A also who has ever.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to say it, but people usually regret getting
Speaker 2: tattoos about relationships. It usually doesn't end well. I wouldn't,
Speaker 2: would you? What if I asked you to get a tattoo?
Speaker 2: What if I said, I think Ben Higgins has this
Speaker 2: a tattoo of his wedding ring. What if I said,
Speaker 2: I really want to get wedding ring tattoos?
Speaker 1: Hm, that would be a negative for me.
Speaker 3: Really, if you asked me to do it, I would
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get it. I just don't have
Speaker 1: any tattoos. And again, I love them on other people.
Speaker 1: I don't love it on Dennis Rodman's face. But in
Speaker 1: the it's just I don't know the picture itself.
Speaker 2: It isn't the best art I've ever seen. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm judging where over the artist is.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't know what it's like
Speaker 1: to paint on that palette.
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you get a tattoo of our wedding rings?
Speaker 1: I just I don't want a tattoo. Okay, I've made
Speaker 1: it this far. I just don't. I don't think at
Speaker 1: this point it's like, yeah, let's let's a change course
Speaker 1: and do it the tattoo.
Speaker 2: What would you say if I came home and I said,
Speaker 2: bab surprise, I got a tattoo of your name, and
Speaker 2: it's on.
Speaker 3: My butt.
Speaker 1: My butt so I can kiss your That would be fine.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you get a tattoo. Okay, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't love it if you got a face tattoo. And
Speaker 1: I would wonder what's going on at this point in
Speaker 1: your life if all of a sudden you just got
Speaker 1: sleeved up, you know, and they were just really visible,
Speaker 1: and I would wonder what that is, you know. For
Speaker 1: for Rodman, it's not crazy. He got a tattoo, but
Speaker 1: as far as getting her picture on his face, he said,
Speaker 1: And this is you're gonna love this reference. This is
Speaker 1: my last dance with a woman.
Speaker 3: There you go, the.
Speaker 1: Former Chicago Bulls out He's referring to the of course
Speaker 1: now iconic documentary The Last Dance about Michael Jordan the Bulls.
Speaker 1: This is my last dance with a woman, the former
Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls athlete gushed to the outlet. She's very lovely
Speaker 1: and I thank her for loving me the way I
Speaker 1: am and that's why I did it for her. So
Speaker 1: this is just kind of a out of love for
Speaker 1: Yelli Yella so I think we're in agreement here. We
Speaker 1: are going to remain non tattoo people.
Speaker 3: Just wait till you see when I get back from
Speaker 3: my bachelorette party.
Speaker 1: Oh mana, oh boy, here we go. I think I
Speaker 1: will confidently remain a non tattoo person. We'll see what
Speaker 1: happens with LZ, whether you have a tattoo or not.
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