WEBVTT - The King of Keeping Secrets

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from the

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<v Speaker 1>home office in Austin, Texas, and it's hot. But we

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<v Speaker 1>also just got some hot news off the press, some

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<v Speaker 1>incredible news from our bachelor family. Claire Crawley is pregnant. Yay.

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<v Speaker 1>Her and Ryan announced today on social media that they

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<v Speaker 1>are expecting. They have been trying for quite some time,

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<v Speaker 1>and just unbelievable joy. If there was ever a woman

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<v Speaker 1>who came through our show that wanted to be a mom,

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<v Speaker 1>aspired to be and just put that out in the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Claire. And so the fact that this has

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<v Speaker 1>come to fruition is a beautiful, beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, I didn't know that being the mom was the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest I guess I always think of Claire as like

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<v Speaker 2>she like she'd been through so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Let her find the right things.

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<v Speaker 1>The one was definitely that was that needed to happen first.

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<v Speaker 1>But she talked about so this is kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in May, late May, when we were all in

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Barbara together, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>We did the concert and recorded some podcasts and we

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<v Speaker 2>met Claren, we met Ryan and Gosh it was so

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<v Speaker 2>nice to see them together because what a sweet guy

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<v Speaker 2>he is. And you did the podcast with her.

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<v Speaker 1>So Claire and I had a moment outside in the

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<v Speaker 1>courtyard and she confided in me that she was pregnant.

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<v Speaker 3>You are a good secret keeper.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my job, It's what I do.

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<v Speaker 3>True, He's actually a lot of secrets over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually texted her today and I said, I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>glad we can finally talk about this. And she said,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, keeping a secret. I said, you know, professionally,

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<v Speaker 1>it's what I do. But so she this is late May.

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<v Speaker 1>She confided in me that she was pregnant. They had

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<v Speaker 1>been trying, but it was way too early to let

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<v Speaker 1>anybody know, but she wanted to let me know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I almost broke out in tears. But what was interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was I was waiting to see if you noticed,

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<v Speaker 1>because you are such a sleuth. At dinner, when we

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<v Speaker 1>were all raising a glass making a toe, they weren't drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Claire did not drink, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, well, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't notice it because you know, and I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a good journalist and I've talked to her about

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<v Speaker 2>this before.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think Claire is a big drinker.

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<v Speaker 1>But and I don't know this about Ryan, but what

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was savvy was I watched Ryan. Ryan wasn't drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you have the appearance that, oh they just

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<v Speaker 1>aren't drinking, it's not a big deal. It didn't. It

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really spark anybody's and we're look, we were sitting

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of bachelor people, so maybe they don't

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<v Speaker 1>really look out orly. They look inwardly, yea. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was funny. I just because I knew going into that dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just looking at things going I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>anybody's noticing.

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<v Speaker 3>That, like picking up on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, but I was excited in that. In that same interview,

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<v Speaker 1>I asked her back in May, even though I knew

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<v Speaker 1>this is really bad journalism, but I knew she was pregnant,

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<v Speaker 1>and I went ahead and asked her, because I had

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<v Speaker 1>written the question ahead of time, are you looking to

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<v Speaker 1>have more kids? Because she's a step mom. And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, are you and Ryan and have kids of

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<v Speaker 1>your own? And she kind of gave him and hauled

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<v Speaker 1>around it, but basically gave me this ry smile of like,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what the future holds. But the future holds

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<v Speaker 1>a baby for them. Baby Dawkins will be the name.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she is maybe the best example, but correct

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<v Speaker 2>me if I'm wrong. There could be or add to

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<v Speaker 2>it of like the weight being worth it. She has

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<v Speaker 2>been again dated people on several seasons of the show

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<v Speaker 2>in different forms, and ultimately now has found this guy

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<v Speaker 2>who's so amazing and is getting the baby. And I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like just she's waited and pushed through and now

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<v Speaker 2>has everything she's wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think and go back and listen to the

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<v Speaker 1>episode it was back in May. You can go back

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<v Speaker 1>on wherever you find your podcast and listen to the

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Claire Crawley, because we talked about that, and

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<v Speaker 1>while I didn't phrase it like that, I will paraphrase

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<v Speaker 1>essentially how she feels. And I think she would agree

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<v Speaker 1>that she probably pushed a little too hard for the

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<v Speaker 1>fairy tale early on, even in the Bachelor, maybe manifested

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<v Speaker 1>it a little too much, and it's one thing to

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<v Speaker 1>put it out in the universe, and it's another thing

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<v Speaker 1>to try and force the cards. I think she will

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<v Speaker 1>be the first one to say patience is a virtue,

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<v Speaker 1>and her patients led to this wonderful guy who we

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<v Speaker 1>love Ryan and now a baby and a family and anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>just all the love in the world. And as I

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<v Speaker 1>sent her a message today, I just wish her all

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<v Speaker 1>the love and all the good health as they prepare

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<v Speaker 1>to have their little baby. Now to something not so rosy,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a hard reset. Did you see the story

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<v Speaker 1>about Jonah Hill and his ex girlfriend Sarah Brady. So,

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<v Speaker 1>Joni Hill, obviously the actor comedian, came out he was

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<v Speaker 1>dating this surfer slash model, Sarah Brady, and she took

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<v Speaker 1>to Instagram and put out multiple screenshots of alleged texts

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<v Speaker 1>between the two of them, personal text messages while they

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<v Speaker 1>were in a relationship. And these were alleged texts that

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<v Speaker 1>had Jonah in a not so glowing light asking her

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<v Speaker 1>to remove any photos and videos of her surfing that

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<v Speaker 1>showed her ass and a thong from her Instagram page.

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<v Speaker 1>Really just worried about anything that he considered sexual in nature.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have some serious thoughts on this on so

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<v Speaker 1>many levels.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, we'll take it away.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, one, I don't love this from Sarah's standpoint. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't agree with going public and outing Jonah Hill. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not defending Jonah. And I'll get to that, because

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<v Speaker 1>Jonah has his issues and there's a list of those,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll get to them. But first and foremost, if

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<v Speaker 1>this was not Jonah Hill and this was Josh Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>would Sarah have gone public? Would this have been a

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<v Speaker 1>story that she would have wanted out there? Would anybody

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<v Speaker 1>have cared? He wasn't. While while he may have been

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<v Speaker 1>toxic and insecure, was he abusive? Did he do anything illegal?

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<v Speaker 1>I will contend that he showed her his cards. He

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<v Speaker 1>was very honest about who he was. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to take those as red flags and run for the hills,

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<v Speaker 1>that's on you. I don't think it's really fair to

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<v Speaker 1>bury Jonah publicly through private messages that he intended for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will take this to the next level, pictures

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<v Speaker 1>that you exchange in your relationship messages. All those things

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<v Speaker 1>I think have to be locked in a vault and

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<v Speaker 1>thrown away if they're not going to be used as

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<v Speaker 1>evidence for something real. I mean, I'm talking to crime,

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<v Speaker 1>something abusive, something very serious. If you're just unhappy with

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<v Speaker 1>how things ended, you don't get to use that as

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<v Speaker 1>a ammunition. And I just don't think as a man

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<v Speaker 1>or woman, you get to go back and do that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I feel about her.

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<v Speaker 3>I do you mind it?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I weighing out?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, You're like, you know, I'll get to Joan in

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<v Speaker 1>a second. I just wanted to get to her that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think this should ever have been public.

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<v Speaker 2>So I agree in that. Look, we have all been

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<v Speaker 2>in toxic, unhealthy relationships, especially when we're in our you know, teen's, twenties, thirties,

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<v Speaker 2>but for some older and I would not want I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think anyone would want their worst arguments from text,

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<v Speaker 2>message or whatever from their relationships posted for all the

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<v Speaker 2>world to see and to be up there to define them.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want your worst moment, which you might regret.

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<v Speaker 2>For all we know he might have, he might really

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<v Speaker 2>regret those times to define you publicly. That's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the danger of the social media world that we live

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<v Speaker 2>and now.

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<v Speaker 3>And I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think there's caveats of like, Look, sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 2>been important when people are in really really scary situations

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<v Speaker 2>and they need evidence shown and they need to like

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm thinking of the Harvey Weinstein situation. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so glad all those women shared their stories, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is someone who is so abusive with his power and

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<v Speaker 2>a criminal in Hollywood was taken.

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<v Speaker 1>Get on a lesser level, say someone comes after you

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the only way you can defend your name,

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<v Speaker 1>your whatever. There's certain caveats to this. I agree, but

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<v Speaker 1>just just to kind of like get the court of

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<v Speaker 1>public opinions.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing is, actually, I don't think it's benefiting

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<v Speaker 2>her either. I think she had a misstep here. From

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the responses I was seeing from people online,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people were like.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't the worst thing I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, it is interesting if you get into the specifics

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<v Speaker 2>of his words how people are reacting. Some people are saying, look,

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<v Speaker 2>he was being really clear with you about his boundaries,

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<v Speaker 2>because he was saying things things that I don't agree with,

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<v Speaker 2>but things like, look, I don't want you hanging out

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<v Speaker 2>with I'm paraphrasing, but I don't want you hanging out

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<v Speaker 2>with other men.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a boundary for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, Okay, if somebody's telling you they don't want you

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<v Speaker 2>to have friendships with other people, that's not healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>That is not healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>But some people are saying he was showing you who

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<v Speaker 2>he was. He was setting his boundaries, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>you should have gotten like you got to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of that if you don't agree.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, surfing with men and posting sexual.

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<v Speaker 2>People because she's a professional surfer, how could she not

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<v Speaker 2>be surfing with men again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get to him, but violated his boundaries boundaryless inappropriate

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<v Speaker 1>friendships with men. This is what you're alluding to, he said.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what she said. Sarah said that. Jonah texted,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can't meet these boundaries, I'm not the right

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<v Speaker 1>partner for you. If these things bring you to a

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<v Speaker 1>place of happiness, I support it and there will be

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<v Speaker 1>no hard feelings. These are my boundaries for romantic partnership,

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote.

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<v Speaker 3>So don't agree with what his boundaries are.

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<v Speaker 1>Right again, I have major issues. Well he has major issues,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's just telling you this is how I feel

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<v Speaker 1>a healthy relationship should be. If you don't like that

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<v Speaker 1>surf off into the sunset with all your guy friends,

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<v Speaker 1>that's on you. This isn't on him, And to your

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<v Speaker 1>other things, she said this. I decided to share these

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<v Speaker 1>alleged messages from Jonah in order to help her to

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<v Speaker 1>help heal, noting that keeping quiet had caused damage to

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<v Speaker 1>her mental health.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's why I don't think that's fair, because she wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>being lampooned in the press as if she did something wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even remember these two dated.

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<v Speaker 1>I din'body's gonna be scare that Jonah and Sarah broke up.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't. I'm not aware of the surfing world. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know who she was. I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know they dated nor broke up. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand in this case why you need to share

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<v Speaker 2>publicly to heal. If you weren't being lampooned publicly, put

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<v Speaker 2>on trial publicly, then why do you need to share

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<v Speaker 2>your side publicly? That I didn't understand, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>agree with.

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<v Speaker 1>Using that as a safety net and a catch all.

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<v Speaker 1>I also don't think is fair because then you're above reproach.

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<v Speaker 1>You get to that point where, okay, now what does

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<v Speaker 1>he say? Now what does anybody say? Oh? He was

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<v Speaker 1>about my mental health? So that those are my problems

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<v Speaker 1>with Sarah Jonah. You are immensely insecure. Also not a shocker.

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<v Speaker 1>What great comedian or comedic actor is not kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a broken, frail, insecure person. That's usually where comedy comes

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<v Speaker 1>from that is the trauma. How many great comics do

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or I mean, other than maybe maybe Neighborgatzi

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<v Speaker 1>might be the only one, but most are pretty dark,

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<v Speaker 1>messed up, kind of insecure people. The great ones usually are.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Jonah is a pretty good comedic actor,

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<v Speaker 1>but unbelievably, you know, insecure. If you can can't handle that,

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<v Speaker 1>and well, look, it's odd being able to articulate that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's obvious why these two broke up, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would say to both of them, you guys, it

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty clear he doesn't think you should be posting

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<v Speaker 2>in a swimsuit and surfing with men.

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<v Speaker 3>That's literally your job is to wear a swimsuit and surf.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here's something that is also interesting that's come up

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<v Speaker 2>as like a big headline similar to this is Keiki

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<v Speaker 2>Palmer and the father of her child. If I'm getting

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<v Speaker 2>it right, she was wearing an outfit she went to

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<v Speaker 2>go see an usher shown Vegas. He has a residency there,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was wearing an outfit that showed her her

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<v Speaker 2>butt a little bit, and it was a sexy outfit

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<v Speaker 2>and she looked great, and he posted publicly on Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>publicly he said that she shouldn't be wearing that, that

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<v Speaker 2>she's the mother of a child, that she should be

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<v Speaker 2>covering herself up.

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<v Speaker 3>I sure did no, the father of a baby did yes? Yes, yes, So.

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<v Speaker 2>He got taken down on social media. I mean he

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<v Speaker 2>literally went back and deleted the posts. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>went private. People are like, what are you thinking? They've

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<v Speaker 2>now I believe unfollowed each other. And this is someone

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<v Speaker 2>who is the father of a child, who she was

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<v Speaker 2>I think, in a relationship with, so it's maybe broken

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<v Speaker 2>them up. And it's interesting because I certainly don't think

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<v Speaker 2>men should be controlling what women where. They shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>weighing in on that. However, when you're in a relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>some people have feelings about like how private they want

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<v Speaker 2>their partner's body to be to them, how personal, how

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<v Speaker 2>intimate that is. And I can understand that perspective for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but like that's the thing. You have to set these

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<v Speaker 2>boundaries in your relationship. And for Jonah Hill, it just

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<v Speaker 2>seems so stunned obvious to me. You knew from the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning you were dating a surfer, right, and how's she.

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<v Speaker 3>Not going to be on a swim in a swimsuit?

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<v Speaker 1>On Instagram and before the relationship, as they were getting

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<v Speaker 1>into it, he commented on how much he liked a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these pictures, and so it's they can both

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<v Speaker 1>be wrong in this situation, and they both are Jonah

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<v Speaker 1>unbelievably wrong, and how he kind of every take he had,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't love Sarah for doing what she did.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>Something that's not just one headline, but multiple and I

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<v Speaker 2>can't even keep track. Kevin Costner and his wife Christine

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<v Speaker 2>splitting up. It is just article after article about the

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<v Speaker 2>money at stake in this marriage, in this breakup, and

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<v Speaker 2>how much they are not on the same page. I

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<v Speaker 2>think at one point there's a headline she was asking

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<v Speaker 2>for two hundred and twenty nine thousand dollars a month

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<v Speaker 2>in support. She she wouldn't leave the house. She said

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't he was trying to kick her out. Headlines

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<v Speaker 2>about how he limited her credit card spending to thirty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars a month, about how she was challenging their prenup.

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<v Speaker 2>It is just over and over different news about the

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<v Speaker 2>money at stake here, and it's making me sad, and

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<v Speaker 2>I also it's making me uncomfortable. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>know this much about their finances, and it just got

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<v Speaker 2>you read the articles and you just feel that bitterness

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<v Speaker 2>of a couple that was once in love and now

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<v Speaker 2>it's just all about money and trying to hit each

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<v Speaker 2>other where it hurts, and feeling like they owe me

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<v Speaker 2>this and they owe me that, and it's just really dark.

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<v Speaker 2>I think couples today are probably all across the board.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know some friends who are married and still

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<v Speaker 2>maintain different checking accounts, and then some people who share everything.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it has a lot to do with when

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<v Speaker 1>you start your relationship where you are. It makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>when you're eighteen years old and you have twenty dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to your name, and your name really doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 1>much whether you keep your last name or change where

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<v Speaker 1>we are, say you and I right now, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to change your name. Like changing your name at

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<v Speaker 1>this point in your life and in your career would

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<v Speaker 1>I think not help you. So keeping your name or

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<v Speaker 1>taking mine it doesn't matter to me. Like to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I don't need that. I'm not so old

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<v Speaker 1>school conservative. The same thing with money, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>just have to be as long as you're open, honest,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody knows where you know, all the bodies are buried,

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<v Speaker 1>so to speak. And if you want to keep that

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<v Speaker 1>separation of church and state, I think that's smart and

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine, and economically tax wise, it can make a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sense as well. So I think it depends

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<v Speaker 1>on when you know when you get together. But if

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<v Speaker 1>if you're building everything together from day one, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years old, stuff just gets in correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, you're right that history and the amount of

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<v Speaker 2>time you've been together and at what age you come

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<v Speaker 2>into the relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I like, changing my name wasn't even

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<v Speaker 3>a thought for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I've used I mean, first of all, I love my

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<v Speaker 2>name and I've used it professionally, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Agree with I mean, now we're getting onto that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do have some friends who, like their husbands,

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<v Speaker 2>really wanted them to change their last name. And I've

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<v Speaker 2>never understood that if you want to do it, that's great,

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<v Speaker 2>But for it to be this necessary thing, I would

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<v Speaker 2>say to the other person, well, why don't you change

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<v Speaker 2>your last name to mine? Then it should be like,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's that important to you, then you should be

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<v Speaker 2>willing to go the other way too.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't mind the monogram cz.

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<v Speaker 3>Cz Zema's great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sure, it's easy to say, easy to remember, you

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<v Speaker 2>know where you stand in the alphabet.

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<v Speaker 1>Chrisima. It's a little the literation sounds alike a little

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<v Speaker 1>too much. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I also have some friend to me money when it

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<v Speaker 2>becomes an issue, and hopefully I think we have a

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<v Speaker 2>really good situation where it's just kind of easy for us,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we both trust each other's decisions on expenses. Neither

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<v Speaker 2>of us are big spend thrifts on something, and we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it and we really always seem to be

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<v Speaker 2>on the same page.

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<v Speaker 3>But for some people they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's an issue when money becomes control. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I have a friend who it's actually affected our friendship

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<v Speaker 2>really and it's kind of like her relationship with her

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<v Speaker 2>husband kind of. I had to start pulling back a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit because I so disagreed and it hurt me

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<v Speaker 2>to watch what I think is like some worrisome behavior

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<v Speaker 2>she's in. Her husband has her on a budget and

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<v Speaker 2>she is only allowed to spend this much and she

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have any credit cards of her own. And I

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<v Speaker 2>said to her, like it worries me that you can't

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<v Speaker 2>book a plane ticket if you need to, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>like you have to call him and ask for more

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<v Speaker 2>money if you've run out of gas Like that worries

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<v Speaker 2>me because it makes me feel like you're not able

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<v Speaker 2>to be in control of your own life and your

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<v Speaker 2>yeah run into Yeah No.

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<v Speaker 1>Look now, if there is the issue of someone just

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<v Speaker 1>can't keep you out of debt and they just always

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<v Speaker 1>sign up for credit cards and are running you into

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<v Speaker 1>bankruptcy and they're just not fiscally responsible, maybe you have

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<v Speaker 1>to take some steps. In this case, that's not the situation, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but I could see where that could be. If one

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<v Speaker 1>of you is completely out of whack, do you.

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<v Speaker 3>Have an issue You're a what was the chopaholic?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, whatever, and you're bringing home ten thousand dollars worth

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<v Speaker 1>of clothes and you're making one thousand dollars a month.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not great.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when you start to fight two is when

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<v Speaker 2>things become very like it's got to be exactly fifty

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<v Speaker 2>to fifty or something. I'm not saying it's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, try.

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<v Speaker 3>To make it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>But we have friends who, well, if this, if he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to buy this then I'm going to buy that.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's when you get in that tet a tet

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<v Speaker 2>it becomes I don't know, toxic.

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<v Speaker 3>So the toxic to say the least.

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<v Speaker 2>About Kevin Costner and his wife, I hope they work

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<v Speaker 2>it out because all I keep thinking is their kids

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<v Speaker 2>are going to read all these headlines one day, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's sad.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you believe in there is no bad press? Because

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<v Speaker 1>ari Anomatics is taking that to the nth degree. Now Arianomatics,

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<v Speaker 1>who is coming out of the scandal all from vander

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<v Speaker 1>Pump Rules. I mean, this woman's taken over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Now she is going on Dancing with the Stars, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little shocked that they allowed her to do

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<v Speaker 1>an ABC Disney show.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you mean just from because it's an She's ABC.

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<v Speaker 1>Lavo, NBC Peacock World, like she's staying in there. She's

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<v Speaker 1>also appearing on Love Island, which is interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is is that that's Peacock, that's NBC Peacock. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's our friend Sarah Hyland.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and so she's over in Fiji making an appearance.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she shows up in episode two of the

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<v Speaker 1>upcoming season of Love Island. I'm like, Okay, I get that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's coin of s energy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a crossover synergy. I was really shocked that it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't shocked that they tried to cast her on Dancing

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<v Speaker 1>with the Stars because dancing needs that. I was shocked

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<v Speaker 1>that Bravo and them let her out to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And could be a smart move by them though, to

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<v Speaker 2>get some Dancing with the Stars has typically an older audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Get some older audience as aware of vander Pump Rules

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<v Speaker 2>as a show.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're looking for the winner of the scandalval it's Arianna.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to ask why you said, why you

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<v Speaker 2>introduced this with is there no such thing as bad press?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I don't think she's gotten any bad press.

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<v Speaker 1>She was just a part of this. She was a

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<v Speaker 1>part of this whole things scandal. Yeah, she's a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the scandal and had to watch it play out

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<v Speaker 1>and had to be a part of that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>is she isn't she? Are they going to get back together?

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<v Speaker 1>And so obviously she's come out on top. God bless

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<v Speaker 1>her and her team because they're like, no, girl, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go out and we're going to monetize this.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for you.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to applaud how they've handled everything.

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<v Speaker 2>They've done every She's done several Instagram ads, and every

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<v Speaker 2>one of them has been so clever. Like also, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think in marketing, when you have such a clear narrative,

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<v Speaker 2>it's easy to do a really good ad.

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<v Speaker 3>It's easier to do a really good ad. But they've

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<v Speaker 3>done great. I mean she did.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she did it for batteries, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, well, when I've been when maybe I need

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<v Speaker 2>to like enjoy myself because I'm or like when I've

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<v Speaker 2>been zapped of my energy. She's just been really smart

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<v Speaker 2>with the choices she's made. She's held her head up

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<v Speaker 2>high the whole time. And as many Bravo fans have said, gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>the irony that Tom Sandoval was the one who really

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<v Speaker 2>in their couple wanted to be famous, and now she's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of achieving all his dreams. Karma is real.

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<v Speaker 1>Karma's a bitch, dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you believe in karma? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Karma's undefeated.

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen some karma in our lives in the past

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<v Speaker 3>couple of months.

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<v Speaker 1>We have seen some amazing karma in the last year.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. I think karma comes around.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a caveat there. Tell me how you feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I just believe.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe in the energy that's out in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think karma is. And I think that karma

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<v Speaker 2>comes to fruition when you've held your head high, when

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<v Speaker 2>you've kept your side of the street clean, when you've

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<v Speaker 2>taken you know, the high road in a situation, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you earn karma. I don't think karma comes when

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<v Speaker 2>you're like getting down and dirty, just like the other

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<v Speaker 2>side is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like to sit back, as you said, keep

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<v Speaker 1>your side of the street clean and let the universe

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<v Speaker 1>take care of itself.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's when karma feels good, because you think I

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<v Speaker 2>held my own here and that person got what they deserved.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And we've gotten to watch a lot of dishes

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<v Speaker 1>of karmel I.

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<v Speaker 3>Worried about it.

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<v Speaker 2>They're served piping hot and sometimes you got to wait

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<v Speaker 2>a while, but it does happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not necessarily in the Bravo world. So Tom and Raquel, like,

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<v Speaker 1>are they doing anything other than vander Pump Like they

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<v Speaker 1>have they had any residual bounce from this.

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<v Speaker 3>They have both signed up to film again and they

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<v Speaker 3>are filming again. But I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I've not seen the Instagram ads and the opportunities and

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<v Speaker 2>the offers come their way.

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<v Speaker 1>So the scoreboard is Ariana twelve, Tom and Raquel zero.

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<v Speaker 3>If I was dancing with the stars scoring her, she'd

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<v Speaker 3>get a big ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's a ten. I'm now singing on a stage, shirtless,

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<v Speaker 1>in a gross Hollywood bar. Yeah, helping some groupies by

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Sandov's.

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<v Speaker 3>Still hold none of that white nail polish.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless his heart. Oh, speaking of white nail polish,

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<v Speaker 1>you just let us ride into Dennis Rodman.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, yes, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Known back in the day for his nail polish.

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<v Speaker 3>His hair color, hair color.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, now he's known for a face tattoo.

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<v Speaker 3>This was unexpected for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So Dennis Rodman, of course the NBA icon He played

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<v Speaker 1>with Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen. He was part of the Dynasty,

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<v Speaker 1>part of the Last Dance as it were, won multiple championships,

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<v Speaker 1>the king of rebounding in the NBA. Sixty two years old.

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<v Speaker 1>He's dating a thirty one year old woman, Yelli Yella.

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<v Speaker 1>Dennis Rodman is getting a tattoo of yellow yellow on

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<v Speaker 1>his face.

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<v Speaker 3>He got it. It's there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a face ted. I'm looking at the picture right now,

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<v Speaker 1>go online, take a look at Rodman's tattoo. A tattoo.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we start Let's just not go the woman yet,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just go face tattoo. Cry for help.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't ever think of face tattoo comes across like

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<v Speaker 2>a stable choice. I'm trying not to judge. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>personally into tattoos. I don't judge them. Get them if

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<v Speaker 2>you want, that's your thing. But I think a face

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<v Speaker 2>tattoo like it's different, there's something different about it. Where

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<v Speaker 2>because I guess because you think you'd never have the

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to cover this up if you wanted to.

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<v Speaker 3>How's this going to age as your face ages?

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<v Speaker 1>Like my tattoo? My tramp stamp that I have is

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<v Speaker 1>a dolphin swimming over a rainbow, And I think that's timeless.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you have done if the first time we

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<v Speaker 1>were intimate and you look and I have a tramp stamp.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done, it's over.

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<v Speaker 3>I think. So I think so talk about a red flag.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think of like Mike Tyson face tattoo. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just it never seems to be.

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<v Speaker 3>A also who has ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry to say it, but people usually regret getting

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<v Speaker 2>tattoos about relationships. It usually doesn't end well. I wouldn't,

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<v Speaker 2>would you? What if I asked you to get a tattoo?

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<v Speaker 2>What if I said, I think Ben Higgins has this

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<v Speaker 2>a tattoo of his wedding ring. What if I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I really want to get wedding ring tattoos?

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<v Speaker 1>Hm, that would be a negative for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, if you asked me to do it, I would

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<v Speaker 3>do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to get it. I just don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any tattoos. And again, I love them on other people.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't love it on Dennis Rodman's face. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the it's just I don't know the picture itself.

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<v Speaker 2>It isn't the best art I've ever seen. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm judging where over the artist is.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. I don't know what it's like

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<v Speaker 1>to paint on that palette.

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<v Speaker 3>Why wouldn't you get a tattoo of our wedding rings?

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't want a tattoo. Okay, I've made

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<v Speaker 1>it this far. I just don't. I don't think at

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<v Speaker 1>this point it's like, yeah, let's let's a change course

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<v Speaker 1>and do it the tattoo.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you say if I came home and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>bab surprise, I got a tattoo of your name, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's on.

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<v Speaker 3>My butt.

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<v Speaker 1>My butt so I can kiss your That would be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care if you get a tattoo. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't love it if you got a face tattoo. And

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<v Speaker 1>I would wonder what's going on at this point in

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<v Speaker 1>your life if all of a sudden you just got

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<v Speaker 1>sleeved up, you know, and they were just really visible,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would wonder what that is, you know. For

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<v Speaker 1>for Rodman, it's not crazy. He got a tattoo, but

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<v Speaker 1>as far as getting her picture on his face, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>And this is you're gonna love this reference. This is

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<v Speaker 1>my last dance with a woman.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Former Chicago Bulls out He's referring to the of course

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<v Speaker 1>now iconic documentary The Last Dance about Michael Jordan the Bulls.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my last dance with a woman, the former

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago Bulls athlete gushed to the outlet. She's very lovely

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<v Speaker 1>and I thank her for loving me the way I

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<v Speaker 1>am and that's why I did it for her. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is just kind of a out of love for

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<v Speaker 1>Yelli Yella so I think we're in agreement here. We

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<v Speaker 1>are going to remain non tattoo people.

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<v Speaker 3>Just wait till you see when I get back from

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<v Speaker 3>my bachelorette party.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh mana, oh boy, here we go. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>will confidently remain a non tattoo person. We'll see what

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<v Speaker 1>happens with LZ, whether you have a tattoo or not.

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