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Speaker 1: From a from a perspective of you know, you were

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Speaker 1: time defensively at you know, that first year, but obviously

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Speaker 1: you were a part of this team and you weren't

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious from from someone who goes from you know,

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Speaker 2: the leader of a team, and then you get to

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Speaker 2: college and then you get to the pros. How is

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Speaker 2: that balance between wanting to step up and say something

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Speaker 2: and be at the front of the room when you

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Speaker 2: were a young player versus waiting your time and kind

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Speaker 2: of seeing picking your spots. I mean, is there Kaevon

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Speaker 2: used the word meritocracy, which kind of stuck with me.

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Speaker 2: I mean, can you step up and have a voice

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Speaker 2: if you don't have the skins on.

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Speaker 1: The wall so to speak.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's definitely a balance there. The more

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Speaker 3: you produce, the bigger your voice is. And guys listen

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Speaker 3: to the leaders and the people who are you know,

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Speaker 3: leading from the front and doing their job. I've been

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Speaker 3: you know, executing at a high level. So there's always

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Speaker 3: that kind of you know that that process. It goes

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Speaker 3: from you know, high school to college when you come

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Speaker 3: back at the bottom of the tote pole, and then

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Speaker 3: unique experience and something you kind of got to weigh

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Speaker 2: What about for you, I mean, have you gotten to

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Speaker 2: the point where you feel, you know, in your position

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Speaker 2: that you can actually speak up and say something and

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Speaker 2: see what you're you know, say what you're seeing. Or

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Speaker 2: are you still kind of you know, waiting it out.

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Speaker 4: No, without a doubt.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, especially these last couple of years,

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Speaker 3: with the more experience I've gotten and uh more playtime,

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Speaker 3: I think I can you know, I can have a

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Speaker 3: then in the defensive room as well, just kind of

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Speaker 3: pointing things out and when there's younger guys, I can

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Speaker 4: Yeah for doing this, yep. Uh. Two things.

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Speaker 5: First, can you explain to the guy, because people weren't

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Speaker 5: on the field to us to stance, what actually changes

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Speaker 5: with Dexter Lawrence not in the lineup, Like how much

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Speaker 5: more difficult. Does the job get how will how will

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Speaker 5: offenses attack you guys differently without Dexter there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously he's our rock in the middle there,

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Speaker 3: and you know, not only on the field, but you know,

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Speaker 3: he's our our captain and our leader off the field.

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Speaker 3: He's he's a voice within our locker room and especially

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Speaker 3: you know, on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 4: So it'll you know, it's a it's a big blow

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Speaker 4: to us. You know. Obviously we'll find out where he

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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's it's difficult when you don't have

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Speaker 3: that caliber of a player on the field who you know,

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Speaker 3: he's he's always doing his job and he's he's going

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Speaker 3: to make sure that a GAP's.

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Speaker 4: Closed every time he's in there.

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Speaker 3: So got a you know, get these these other guys

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Speaker 3: get more reps for them, which I think will be good.

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Speaker 3: And obviously we have a young team, so the more

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Speaker 5: And then the other thing you might have heard me

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Speaker 5: just ask this to Cavon if you were in the room.

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Speaker 5: But I'm curious the thing that's really buzzing in the

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Speaker 5: fan base. Uh right now is all the all your

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Speaker 5: former teammates who are doing well up their places. I'm

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Speaker 5: wondering if that's found its way to the locker room.

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Speaker 5: This sae Quon, uh, Xavier Leo, all those guys, and

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Speaker 5: if there's any part of you that's like wondering why it,

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Speaker 5: you know, all happened when you guys were all together.

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Speaker 3: You know, obviously, you know, we're football players and we

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Speaker 3: and we're you know, we're all happy for those guys

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Speaker 3: and you know, former teammates and you know friends that

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Speaker 3: it's difficult to see it, and it's you know, we

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Speaker 3: don't obviously we would have loved to put it all

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Speaker 4: Some guys, Uh, you know.

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Speaker 3: You have your hills and your valleys, and you know,

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Speaker 3: it depends what time in your career and what team

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Speaker 3: But definitely, you know, proud and happy for those guys.

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Speaker 3: MM hmmm, hey good, how about you good?

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Speaker 1: You know, I know in college you didn't always have

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Speaker 1: you know, big winning seasons in Indiana.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever lost.

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Speaker 1: Seventh straight in in in college or high school?

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Speaker 3: I think I did my senior year at college. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we went two and ten, I believe. So, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: But right, sorry to bring up those Yeah, well what

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Speaker 4: what what?

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Speaker 5: What does? What would one would do?

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Speaker 2: Do you think for your psyche, for your coach of psyche,

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Speaker 2: for your teammates psyche, your family psyche.

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Speaker 4: Whatever, you know, everyone's gokind of going through this together.

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Speaker 5: What would just winning one game Sunday doesn't change the standings.

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Speaker 4: Very much or anything? What would it do? I think

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Speaker 4: it would do a lot.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just the vibe within the building and within

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Speaker 3: the locker room especially, and you know, for everybody on

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Speaker 3: the team. I think obviously we've kind of you know,

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Speaker 3: we've been through some tough games here and we I

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Speaker 3: has continued to battle, uh, you know, through every game.

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Speaker 3: But you know, for for these these other guys who

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Speaker 3: other factors. I think it'd be good for everybody who's

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know you your two wins have come

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Speaker 2: on the road, right, you know, so you had flights

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Speaker 2: back from Cleveland and.

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Speaker 1: Seattle when you won.

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Speaker 2: You know, that athlete I talked to says, you know

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Speaker 2: that's what you You know that that post game ten

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Speaker 4: Room we after you win is so special. Yeah, how

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Speaker 4: much how much do you miss that? I mean, do

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Speaker 4: you almost like forget what it feels like? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean it's tough too, and I know, you know,

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Speaker 4: Too, so it's difficult to.

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Speaker 3: You know, we didn't spend a whole lot of time

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Speaker 3: you were saying, the flight the post game in the

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Speaker 3: builds momentum into that next week.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, we could definitely use that right now. Good,

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Speaker 4: but you.

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Speaker 2: We will talk about you know, being professionals and things

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 5: How tough, is it now to do that?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's obviously this season is is not where

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Speaker 3: we want it to be. But you know, at the

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Speaker 3: end of the day, this is our job and we

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Speaker 3: all get paid to do this. But you know, on

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Speaker 3: a deeper level, there's a sense of pride, I know,

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Speaker 3: especially for me, just every time I step out on

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Speaker 3: be out there with my teammates and to support them

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Speaker 3: and and you know, play alongside them. It's it's a

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Speaker 3: true honor, and I think that's what we're all playing

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Speaker 3: for now