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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Fantasy lex Concast from the Action Network

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Speaker 2: and Fantasy Labs. I'm your host, Chris Raybon. NFL Week

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Speaker 2: ten is here, trade deadline is here. We've got player

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Speaker 2: we're recording this? The trade deadline is kind of unfolding.

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Speaker 2: Who's the guy you're most looking forward to get traded

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Speaker 3: Well, I think Breece Hall is the one that wants

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Speaker 3: we're getting. Looks like the Jets are asking for a

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Speaker 3: But I'd like to see him get traded shake things up,

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Speaker 2: I think, uh, I would love to see like a

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Speaker 1: Brown to the Seahawks or something like that. That would

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Speaker 1: Cardio King week nine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm high on Matthew Stafford. He's my QB

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Speaker 1: So yeah, just Stafford trending up. The Rams low Key

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Speaker 2: I am high on Jackson Dart this week. I mean

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Speaker 2: We'll see, if you know, I don't think they're that

435
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 2: interested in using the other guys too much. I know

436
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 2: Britain Brown ended up getting a touchdown, but I think

437
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 2: that will be kind of the distribution on early downs

438
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 2: like I think it'll be you know, Menanja first up

439
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: and then on passing downs, definitely Swift and he'll probably

440
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 2: you know, spell him as well, but I think he

441
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 2: played too well to not you know, continue to roll

442
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 2: with that and kind of make it, you know, no

443
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 2: worse than a fifty to fifty committee. But more likely

444
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 2: Menandre probably gets the the lead and rushing work from

445
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 2: here on out. And we saw him kind of creeping

446
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: up on Swift even before we knew Swift was going

447
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 2: to be ruled out. You know, every week, you know,

448
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: Swift's snapshare was getting closer and closer to to monagazz

449
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 2: So I think this is still a byspot again, this

450
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 2: matchup against the Giants, one of the worst run defenses.

451
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 1: In the league all season long.

452
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 2: It's you know, even if Swift is back and they're saying, okay,

453
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 2: he's the starter, like I would still be very interested

454
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 2: in the number two running back on whoever's facing the

455
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: Giants with a total of what is it over fifty

456
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: in this spot, So like him and I think Devin

457
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 2: Singletary as well, you know, just with the amount of

458
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 2: snaps that he played, in the fact that every week

459
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: now the Giants, when they've had an injured running back,

460
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 2: they haven't had a third one active. So I'm guessing

461
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: they they're gonna say, Okay, what Oshewsky or McLeod or,

462
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, one of those guys probably would just

463
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 2: be the emergency.

464
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: Running back Hyatt.

465
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, but that's how they've been playing it

466
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 2: so far. Eric Gray, I haven't heard anything about him.

467
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: I know he's eligible to be activated. But Tracy had

468
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 2: twenty five snaps last week's Singletary thirty two, and I

469
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,199
Speaker 2: thought Singletary played better. So and then you mentioned on

470
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: the Waivers pod that Gable has history with Singletary, so

471
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: this could be a fifty to fifty split going forward.

472
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 2: You know, we've seen them bench Singletary, excuse me that

473
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 2: we've seen them bench Talon Tracy in the past. Fumbling

474
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 2: issues benched him at the goal, and I think I

475
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 2: talked about that last week in the past, So I

476
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: think Tracy does have a lower floor and that just

477
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: benefits Singletary, who's pretty sneaky, not quite in that Monan

478
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 2: guy range if swift Wood come back, but still intriguing

479
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: this week given the matchup, guys are loaning it running.

480
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 3: Back I'm low and Kamani Vidal, who flopped in what

481
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 3: should have been a spresh spot against the Titans. You know,

482
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 3: Jared Patterson of all people, outplayed him, ended up having

483
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 3: the hot hand unfortunately. I would imagine Bydell gets the

484
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: first crack again this week against the Steelers and bounces back,

485
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 3: but his floor is certainly lower now since it could

486
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 3: be a hot hand approach again where someone like Patterson

487
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 3: ends up out snapping out touching him. So he's more

488
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: of a low end RB two after being a solid

489
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 3: RB one option at least on paper last week. And

490
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 3: you know Hampton could be returning soon, so the window

491
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 3: of Vadal's value could be closing soon. So that was

492
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: just a really disappointing week from him last week against

493
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 3: the Titans. And then Trevon Henderson, maybe one of the

494
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: most polarizing running backs in fantasy football right now, is

495
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 3: coming off another solid game again. I think this guy's

496
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 3: the most talented back the Patriots have right now. But

497
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: as you mentioned, Drell Jennings mixed in a little bit

498
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 3: more than we were hoping for. He was the one

499
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: that got the touchdown. We're just gonna have to get

500
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 3: used to that. And you know, last week was certainly

501
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 3: fueled by Romandre Stevenson being out. I'm projecting him to

502
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 3: return this week, which is gonna make things murcier. But

503
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 3: if Stevenson's out, you know, I'd still move Travon up

504
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 3: to like a low end RB two. But it's still

505
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 3: disappointing that even with you know, Gibson on IR and

506
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 3: Stevenson out, he still has to compete with someone like

507
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 3: Terrell Jennings of all people. So you know, his upside

508
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: is kind of captain unfortunately because of it. But again,

509
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 3: he's gonna have a much lower floor. If Stevenson does

510
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: return this week, I think he'd be like a like

511
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 3: a shakier solid. He'd be like a solid RB three

512
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,959
Speaker 3: flex option. But just until we see that the overall

513
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 3: usage go up, it's gonna be tough to really treat

514
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: him like an RB two option. But yeah, his east

515
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 3: yar is RB eighteen to open the week. I just

516
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 3: think that seems too high.

517
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that's like a I guess that would

518
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: be assuming that Ramandre is definitely out, because I think

519
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: the Patriots they're taking that approach similar to you know,

520
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: the Bills. I guess you could say, well, you know,

521
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: outside of Cook, but it's just everybody eats. You know,

522
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 2: their top wide receiver usually tops out around seventy five

523
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: percent route rate. They're platuning at running backs even when

524
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: they don't have their number one, you know, the tight end.

525
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: They're playing two tight ends.

526
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I think Henderson's just going to

527
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: be very inconsistent going forward.

528
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: That may be the case for a guy like JK.

529
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: Dobbins as well.

530
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: You know, we've seen his snaperate kind of trend down

531
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: another team that mixes in three running backs, but that

532
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: might not come back to bite him too much. Some

533
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: of these committee situations where you know, the like the

534
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: the guy that's trending down in the committee might not

535
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: actually get hurt too much this week. Like Dobbins could

536
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: still be fine going up against the Raiders is a

537
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: big favorite. Swift if he comes back against the Giants,

538
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 2: should still be fine. You have who else there's another one?

539
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and Tracy against the Bears. So there's some

540
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: situations that I don't know completely hate, but the guy

541
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: I'm low on is Alvin Kamara. You know, he's still

542
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 2: like just a borderline kind of fringe top twenty five guy.

543
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: I have him outside the top thirty.

544
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: I just think that his touchdown upside is so capped

545
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 2: in this offense because even though he's not playing with

546
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: a guy like who has it, Jamal Williams a couple

547
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: of years ago, had all those touchdowns, still have the

548
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: threat of Taysom Hill woombing.

549
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: This team's getting worse and worse. They already, you know,

550
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: were sellers.

551
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: And he said that if he gets traded somewhere else,

552
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: like who knows what his motivation is going to be

553
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: to suit up or to play a lot of snaps.

554
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: So I just think that, you know, maybe you see

555
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: an uptick if he doesn't get traded this week.

556
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: But we've seen Neil mix in.

557
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: They have nothing to lose by looking at him, and

558
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: Kamara just you know, doesn't look as great over these

559
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: last few weeks. And another low total against the Panther

560
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: outdoors against the Panther defense that I think is a

561
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: lot better than expected in a divisional game.

562
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: Just do not love it for Kamara. The receiving usage

563
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: just hasn't been the same for him.

564
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: Should be higher in this game, just because the Panthers

565
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: play a ton of zone but they, you know, Everro

566
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: is a pretty good coordinator, so you can't always rely

567
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: on those, you know, man zone numbers as a boll

568
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: end all because you know, the coordinators kind of know

569
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: that too, and they they're very interested in switching up

570
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: tendency and whatnot. So still gonna be well on Camara

571
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: just because I don't really have his touchdown upside there,

572
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: just because of the team he's playing on. Kind of

573
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: like you said with Adie Mitchell and the being on

574
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: the Jets, there's just only so many passing yards to

575
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: go around. It's the same thing on the Saints with

576
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: rushing yards and touchdowns period.

577
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, and you mentioned, you know, McCoy's and

578
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: I R looks like I had an ankle injury, so

579
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 3: he's out this week. So their offensive lines losing some

580
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: key pieces as well.

581
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's it's tough.

582
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: I mean, shuck, who knows if he's I mean, Rattler's

583
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: playing well for a while, so who knows what you know,

584
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: shuck shucking kind of trend down too, so it's just yeah,

585
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: situational void.

586
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: There one other guy, Bill.

587
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: I think Bill is kind of trending down too, just

588
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: because you know, it seems like one of these other

589
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: running backs on the Commanders has a.

590
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: Good week every week, and the Lions could get a

591
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: weed in this spot.

592
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: Again, like the Commander's defense, it has been so bad,

593
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: so I'd be careful with him as well.

594
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: But who got for the running.

595
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: Back prom Let's go with Who's gonna have more rushing

596
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 3: yards this week? James Cook or Rico Dowdell. Both these

597
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: guys are an absolute smash spots in terms of rushing production.

598
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna set Cook as a slight favorite. I'll

599
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: have him float two and a half yards t Rico Dowdell.

600
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: It probably won't matter one or both these guys is

601
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: gonna go off. But who are you taking between Cook

602
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: and Dawdell and rushing yards?

603
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: Let's see, I think I know who. Yeah, I gotta

604
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: go Cook. I have him.

605
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: I have him pretty significantly ahead just because of the explosiveness,

606
00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: the fact that Davis might be banged up, and you know,

607
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: Cook has just been at another level in terms of

608
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: the explosive runs, but also his carry share this year

609
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: has just way up after getting that contract, whereas Gutel,

610
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: this is a spot where the Panthers could blow him out.

611
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 2: Now you can say that about the Bills, too, but

612
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: we've just seen, Like, if the Panthers are blowing out

613
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: the Saints, I think it's more likely that they give

614
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: Hubbard burns, whereas the Bills we've kind of, you know,

615
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: known what to expect though. Yeah, and the fact that

616
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: Davis could be banged up only helps Cook more so. Yeah,

617
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: Cook is just I mean, he's like a ninety yard

618
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: runwaiting to happen. Dowdo is gonna do it on volume

619
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: a little bit more so. Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna I'm

620
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: gonna go Cook. Even though he is the two and

621
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: a half yard favorite, I think i'd make him maybe

622
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: more like a carry carry and a half at least favorite, Yeah,

623
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: because yeah, that's fair.

624
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 3: And he's really not involved in the passing game anymore.

625
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: What's one catch the last four games? Every week, I'm like,

626
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna fade James. Cook's like reception prop and then

627
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 3: it's like under two and a half is minus two thirty.

628
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, eh, I'll pass, but yeah, at this point,

629
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: like I'd be shocked if he gets two catches. So

630
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: he's just getting all of his production on the ground.

631
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: So I think that this is the market. Obviously he's

632
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: gonna thrive in this week against the Dolphins, but that's

633
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: kind of been limiting his ceiling a little bit. It's

634
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: just lack of involvement in the passing game.

635
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: It's interesting to.

636
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: Say that because I was thinking the same thing about

637
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: a guy like TDD Johnson even on the Bills. It's

638
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: just the entire running back room for Buffalo. It seems

639
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: like there's been an emphasis on just going downfield more

640
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: and if you're gonna throw, not to wide receivers, just

641
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: get it to the tight ends. Because TDD Johnson only

642
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: has four catches on the year, he's I mean, he's

643
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:40,479
Speaker 2: a guy.

644
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: This is a guy that was catching like.

645
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: Eighty yard touchdown passes over the top of the defense

646
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: last year. Ray Davis has three catches and then Cook

647
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: has thirteen. So that's twenty catches for running backs through

648
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: eight games combined for Buffalo, which is not a lot.

649
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, he's just gonna take off or get You're

650
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: just gonna launch it. Really, that's that's what he's done.

651
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: Wide receiver. Week ten, we got top five.

652
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: I got Aman Rale, Saint Brown, Jackson Smith, Najigba, Drake London,

653
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 3: Pooka Nakua and a Meca Abuka.

654
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: Oh I love love me some Abuka, but I don't

655
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: know how you don't make js N number one at

656
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: this point. I mean, Pooka's banged out, Monro is just

657
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: like he's he's great, we love him. But JSN has

658
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: been other worldly this year, like just completely other world.

659
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: So he's my number one.

660
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: Pooka, a Monra, Drake London, and Justin Jefferson in the

661
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: top five, hanging by a thread. I could see, I

662
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: could see uh Abuka maybe taking over for him, but uh.

663
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: Gonna gonna roll at Jefferson.

664
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: I was kind of pleasantly surprised by what I saw

665
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: from McCarthy. I think there's still meat on the bone.

666
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: Could be a high scoring game at home against the Ravens.

667
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 3: Who are you well? I have Jaysn zero point one

668
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 3: below all Ro. I think I'm off to tweak that.

669
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: I have Cooper Cupper turning, and I have Shaheed running

670
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: a sixty five percent routes right, So a lot of

671
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 3: suppression going on to JASN that's probably gonna get lefted

672
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: once we get clarity. So he's my number number one

673
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: in my heart, so I'll join it. He's my number

674
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 3: one tope in the week.

675
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: To screw it, Yeah, I was, I was gonna have

676
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: I might have saved it for the prop though, but

677
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 2: oh I have a I have a three digit receiving

678
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: projection for JSN right now. Oh okay, yeah, it's I mean,

679
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: that's that's what. That's the point we're at in the

680
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: season where it's just you canna make that guy that's

681
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: pretty spicy. Yeah, I'm sure the market will open a

682
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 2: little lower, but yeah I can't get there, all right.

683
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: Who are you high on?

684
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm high on rum Dobbs this week as seemed

685
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: like every week now, but he just continues to smash

686
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 3: seven catches ninety one yards last week. But with you know,

687
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: Tucker Craft now for the season, obviously that's a huge

688
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: boost to some of like Luke Muskray. But I think

689
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 3: you know Dobbs is going to get a boost too

690
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 3: because he should see even more targets. But especially in

691
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: the red zone. It's really him and Craft or kind

692
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 3: of loves go to guys in the red zone. So

693
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 3: if Craft, you know, out, I think Dobbs touch on

694
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 3: upside goes up. Matthew Golden's banged up, don Tavian Wicks

695
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 3: is banged up. I don't think Jayden Reid's gonna return

696
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 3: this week. Maybe you know, in the next few weeks,

697
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 3: but as of now, I have Dobbs even in a

698
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: you know, a tougher matchup on paper against Eagles, I

699
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 3: have him like a you know, a high end wide

700
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: receiver two right now, just given his upside, and he's

701
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 3: been providing a pretty high floor all things considered. So

702
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: I'm high on Dobbs right now. I already mention him

703
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: on the waiver pod. But I'm high on trade Tucker

704
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 3: this week obviously gets a huge boost with Jacoby Myers

705
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: traded away, and this this is a tough matchup against

706
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: the Broncos. We'll we'll have to see if Patrick Sirtan

707
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: is able to turn this week. I think the fact

708
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: that it's the short week, it's Thursday football maybe lowers

709
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: the chances that Sirtan can return, but that they'll obviously

710
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: impact my final projection for Tucker. But we've seen over

711
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 3: the last two seasons. Tucker's generally better against man coverage,

712
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: so this could be a spot for him to you know,

713
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: post high end wide receiver three numbers, even in a

714
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 3: tough matchup against the Broncos. But certainly long term, I

715
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: think Tucker's going to provide that spike week potential he's

716
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 3: always had, but just a higher floor now with Meyers

717
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 3: gun and more, you know, two wide receiver sets where

718
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 3: he's going to be out there pretty much every single

719
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 3: drop back. So I think his flop his floor is

720
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 3: in a much higher space right now, which certainly helps

721
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: someone like him.

722
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm I was under the understanding that Cirtan

723
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: was gonna miss multiple weeks, so he probably misses this

724
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: one on a short week. I think there there was

725
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 2: some question about whether they would put him on IR

726
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: and they decided against it, so he could be I

727
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 2: think the most realistic He's probably potentially back that week

728
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: after this one.

729
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it seems like.

730
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: So I am high on Wandale Robinson. He's kind of

731
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: just inside the top thirty in ECR, but I think

732
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 2: he's closer to top twenty for me. And the reason is, again,

733
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 2: I just love everything about this this Giant Bear matchup.

734
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: I could see it going very similarly to the Bengals

735
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: Bears matchup a week ago. You have two defenses that

736
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 2: are struggling and Wandale every snap he's out there pretty much,

737
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: you know, ninety five percent plus route rate since Neighbors

738
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 2: went down weekend, week out, so he's not just playing

739
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: in the slot. He's also getting some deeper targets. But

740
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: you know, the volume is kind of returned. There was

741
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 2: a couple of games right after Neighbors went down where

742
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: it seemed like maybe he was getting too much attention

743
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: and you know, there are too many low percentage.

744
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: Throws to him, and he kind of had some duds.

745
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: But you know, now we've seen him kind of return

746
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: to that high volume guy in the Giants offense. And

747
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: I mean Darius Slayton, Theo Johnson, Tyron Tracy, Devin Singletary.

748
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: Those are your kind of top that's your top competition

749
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: for Ralph Ray Ray mcclod.

750
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: Ballinger if he's back.

751
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: You know, it's just this like I think Robinson has

752
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: kind of some unrealized upside where he could he could

753
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: put up like a ten catch one hundred and fifty

754
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: yard type of game, and it's it's not really being

755
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 2: priced into the market. Actually no, well I said top

756
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 2: twenty Rondeo is my wide receiver twelve right now.

757
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: I misspoke.

758
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, wo wire receiver twelve heading into the week, so

759
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: we'll see usually make some adjustments to other wide receivers

760
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: that maybe maybe he gets knocked down on like fifteen

761
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: or so. But yeah, he's he's pretty entrenched as a

762
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: you know, mead range wide receiver two at worst, but

763
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: with wide receiver one upside, I think this week, especially

764
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: given you know, just the upheaval at the position and

765
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: you know, some injuries and whatnot.

766
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, love Wando this week? Who are you lo

767
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: on at wide receiver?

768
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: I'm low on Nico Collins this week against the Jaguars,

769
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: ECR opened him up at wide receiver eight, which is

770
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: where I normally have him. But I think if Stroud

771
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 3: ends up sitting this week, which I think he will

772
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 3: because he's in the concussion protocol, I you know, I

773
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: have Nico more of like a wide receiver twenty in

774
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: my ranks just because Davis mill is probably going to

775
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: be less willing the throat to him downfield, probably just

776
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 3: going to have a much more conservative game plan this week.

777
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: What you know, knowing that Stroud's going to miss, So

778
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 3: you know, I have Nico culture to wide receiver twenty.

779
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: But you know, he still had a solid seven catch

780
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 3: seventy five yard game. I think Mills was responsible for

781
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 3: like five of those catches and about like sixty yards.

782
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 3: So I'll have to like double check that, dive into

783
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 3: that a little bit. But you know, Nico will probably

784
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 3: settle in is more of a mid range wide receiver

785
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 3: two for me than like a solid top ten option

786
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 3: like ECR is treating him. If Stroud's out, I just

787
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 3: think they're gonna kind of change the game plan a bit,

788
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 3: and he's probably gonna be more willing to check it down.

789
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 3: They'll probably be a little bit more run heavy. They'll

790
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 3: they'll adjust probably with Stroud being out. So Nico calling someone,

791
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 3: you know, you're still playing him, But I would temper

792
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: expectations just a little bit this week.

793
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we don't have the you know, the angle

794
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: with Stroud is he's always much more efficient at home,

795
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: and now you lose him, I gotta look into Davis

796
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: Mills's number. I don't really remember remember being too efficient anywhere. Yeah,

797
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: definitely a downgrade compared to Stroud. You have a low total.

798
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: Guys are banged up, Nico healthy, but always wonder if

799
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 2: you know those they went back to their vets last week,

800
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: but at some point I would think, like Hutchinson maybe

801
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: gets less playing times and you know, Kirk is back,

802
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: so that could kind of eat into Nico's target. Shre

803
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: just a tiny tiny bit as well. I'm low on

804
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen. I think it was a guy we kind

805
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: of talked about, like, Okay, who's going to be the

806
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: if Quenton comes back and bounces back, Who's going to

807
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: be the guy that takes a back seat?

808
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: And my money was on Allen and it's still on Allen.

809
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: Just looking at the recent usage trends, I've noticed they're

810
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: starting to want to get rookie Trey Harris a little

811
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: bit more involved, and they are limiting Allen snaps a

812
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: little bit more in spots than they have early in

813
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: the season. Last week, Allen was at a fifty five

814
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: percent route rate and then Harris was at thirty five.

815
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: The week before, Allen was at forty eight percent and

816
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: Harris was at thirty three.

817
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: And we also so a couple of weeks before that,

818
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: it was another like sixty five thirty five type of situation.

819
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 2: Now for the year, Allen's averaging a seventy five percent

820
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: route right, so you know, three of the last five

821
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: he's been sixty five or lower too. In the last

822
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: two he's been fifty five or lower. So that that

823
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 2: signals kind of.

824
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: A downward trend. And he is a veteran.

825
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 2: Was a guy that was sitting on his couch at

826
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 2: you know, the start of the season, and your guy

827
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 2: Gadson has emerged and is running routes on you know,

828
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: ninety percent of Herbert' drop back now essentially has taken

829
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: the keyton Allen roll in that you know, middle of

830
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: the field, you know underneath kind of guy, uh, but

831
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 2: can be explosive too if you ask it of him.

832
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: So, yeah, I think Allen is trending down.

833
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: I would try to sell him honestly, if you know

834
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: you're if you still can trade in year league, because

835
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 2: I I just see the Chargers, you know, the writings

836
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: on the wall with how well Kadson is playing. You

837
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: still got McConkie and Johnson who are much younger, and

838
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 2: we're always going to be you.

839
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 1: Know, a part, big part of this offense.

840
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: And yeah, Allen is my wide receiver thirty nine, so

841
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: I'm minus fourteen from consensus already. Uh and that's you know,

842
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 2: giving him sixty sixty route rates, so a little higher

843
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: than the last two weeks too. So there's a chance

844
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: he stays at that suppressed number and it's just gonna

845
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: be harder for him. He's not automatic touchdown guy either.

846
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: There's a lot of competition, especially with Gadson for touchdowns

847
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: Scott Batlow catching them and shit, okay wide receiver prop

848
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: that's on me, so many options. Just with all the

849
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: weirdness from last week, I think I want to go

850
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 2: with let's try to try to combine something again. Yeah,

851
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: let's go Roma Dunsa plus Courtland Sutton receiving yards. Sutton

852
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 2: had that thirty yard catch for touchdowns only catch and

853
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 2: Dune's say no catch.

854
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: He's on three targets one ten and a half combined

855
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: for a doonesa at Courtland Sunton.

856
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: I have one oh nine and a half. And yeah,

857
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 3: that's a great number because I think when you have

858
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 3: both receivers, you kind of just take the combine them.

859
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 3: You're not I deal with a median situation, so it's

860
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 3: more of a true average. So yeah, that's a great number.

861
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: I've surprised, like first being so high on Roma Dunes.

862
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: They have so many of DUNESA shares. I've been pretty

863
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: low on him recently. I'm minus eight against ECR. It's

864
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: so weird that now I'm like the dunesa hater. But

865
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 3: he's he's still elite. I think he's a great receiver,

866
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 3: but just there's so many miles to feed in this offense,

867
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 3: and they've been a little bit more run heavy. Uh,

868
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 3: Lucier Burden could be back this week, so that kind

869
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: of takes a hit to his target share. And we

870
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: talked about Parker Washington last week. But also Zakias Alamidae

871
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: Zakias is finally having a great season, so he's out there,

872
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 3: you know, averaging a twenty target rate. So it's just

873
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: like all these factors kind of makes it tough for

874
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 3: a Duneesa to see like a big target chart as

875
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 3: being like a number one receiver. So I still like

876
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: his upside, like his touchdown upside, but like one of

877
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 3: these guys might be prone to bust together, you know,

878
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: not go off this week. So I'll take the under

879
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: but that's that's a great line on one yard lower

880
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 3: than you so not much.

881
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's if you look at Dounejay's numbers in totality,

882
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: he looks a little more like a touchdown or bust

883
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 2: guy than you know. It's like he had no, uh

884
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: what five touchdowns over the first four games and then

885
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 2: uh none over the past for and in that span

886
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: he's had three games with two or fewer catches and

887
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: thirty two or fewer yards and then one with seven

888
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 2: for one to fourteen. So he has that you know,

889
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: number one receiver upside still, but he's pretty much even

890
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: with DJ Moore for me, now, like where do you

891
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: where do you have those? Yeah?

892
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: Ranked?

893
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I have DJ Moore a little bit, but yeah,

894
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: Dunesay wide receiver seventeen. Again, I have Luther Burden returning

895
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: this week that you know, that's dinging my DJ Moore projection.

896
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: But I had taken a Dunjay like under four and

897
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: a half receptions a couple weeks ago. He's kind of

898
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: reminding me of like T Higgins, where he's gonna have

899
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 3: some massive games, he's gonna score touchdowns, but there's gonna

900
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: be some weeks where get two catches for thirty three

901
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 3: yards with no touchdowns Like that's unfortunately. Just they have

902
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 3: so many mousive feed and if you know Minong guys

903
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 3: running wild that eats into it. Kata Williams might scramble

904
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 3: more this week. Just there's a lot of paths for

905
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 3: a duneesa to hit his floor. So so yeah, that's

906
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 3: why he's all the way down to wide receiver seventeen

907
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 3: to me. But he's had like an evolving type of

908
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: profile this year.

909
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Coston Lovelin.

910
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: I mean, the more he plays, he has you know

911
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: about a three four percent target per route rate, higher

912
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 2: than commit and probably even higher when love Win is

913
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 2: the starter too. So yeah, yeah, it's it's just kind

914
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: of one of those situations where he's probably gonna be

915
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: more touchdown or busting then we would like going forward

916
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: kind of what he was last year, except he wasn't

917
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: getting the touchdown.

918
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. I wasn't catching downfield targets or touchdowns last year.

919
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: All right, let's close it out with tight end for

920
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: Week ten Top five.

921
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 3: Oh boy, I got Trey McBride, George Kittle, Aronde Goatston

922
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 3: the second, Tyler Warren, and Rock Bowers.

923
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: Wait, so you're lowing Bowers again. How do you have

924
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: anything lower than like three? I feel like for me

925
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 2: it's McBride, Bowers, Gadsden and then Kittle Warren.

926
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: But it was top three.

927
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: I don't I feel I'm like scared to fade any

928
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: of any of McBride Bowers against Yeah, right now.

929
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 3: I'm not fading Bowers. I think that's needed to make

930
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 3: a little week up since Jacoby Myers trade, and I

931
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 3: just really love Gats and Warren, So it's you know,

932
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 3: it's hard. I just think get to solid top five.

933
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 3: I'd put it that way. Yeah. Yeah, Bellers probably end

934
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: up a little bit higher once once I factor in

935
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 3: more of like Jacoby Myers being gone. That's obviously gonna

936
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: help ours. So yeah, yeah, he's you're obviously our number one.

937
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 3: He's easier number one. Yeah that sounds about right. I mean,

938
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: but if Kyler Murray comes back, Trey McBride will probably

939
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 3: go down to like tight end six for me. But

940
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: right now he is popping in my touchdown projection, so

941
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to dial that back a bit if

942
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 3: Kyler takes back over.

943
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: I mean, the thing I like about McBride, even with

944
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 2: that gives him hope is that Jakobe Burssett rushed for

945
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: a touchdown and McBride still got his. Not granted it

946
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: was against the Cowboys, but I mean that's about as

947
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: that's about as good news as possible if you are

948
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 2: hoping for more touchdowns from from a bride quety high

949
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: on for Week.

950
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: Ten at tight end.

951
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 3: I'm high on Theo Johnson at tight end and I

952
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: mentioned this on the Waiver Pod. I think it's time

953
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 3: to consider him, you know, legit tight end one the

954
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 3: rest of the way, just based on his underlying usage

955
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: because he's out there, you know ninety of you know,

956
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 3: Darts dropbacks. He's seen obviously a boost and target share

957
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 3: since Milik Neighbors went down for the season, and you

958
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 3: know Wandale's the top target in the offense. But once

959
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: they get to the red zone, you know, Theo's clearly

960
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 3: Darts top target. He knows five touchdowns since Dart took over.

961
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 3: And you know we saw Raray McLeod see a ton

962
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 3: of work when he got one target or something. I

963
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 3: think Ray Ray might eat into like Wandale's target share

964
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 3: more than THEO. But I think either way, I think

965
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: Wandale and theore are kind of locked in his high

966
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 3: floor options right now. And just the fact that Theo's

967
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 3: available in so many leagues and he he does offer

968
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 3: low end, tight end one value this weekend going forward.

969
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 3: I just think he's like a sneaky ad rest of

970
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 3: the way, if you missed out on like a Gadsend

971
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: or a Loveland. I think Loveland probably has more long

972
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 3: term upside, but I think THEO offers that that high floor,

973
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 3: stable type production the rest of the way.

974
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ray Ray mccu like the Giants just have to

975
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 2: have a cardio king in there, Like that's just Brian

976
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 2: Dabos offense.

977
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: He had Hyatt playing that role.

978
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: And then Ray McCloud a five a dot and he

979
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: got targeted on one of thirty six rounds.

980
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 3: Did he catch a dot?

981
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he got. Did he catch it yeah yeah

982
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: he did.

983
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 3: Okay, So hopefully we get Ray Ray McLeod props this

984
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 3: week over under half a yard.

985
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 2: Under because I think I don't think he was meant

986
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 2: to play as much as he did. I think, uh,

987
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: I think it was due to Collins getting burt. I

988
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: think Collins would have probably played that amount of snapsack.

989
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: Remember we saw will Jordan Humphrey uh emerge and play

990
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 2: like an I think they had that roll ticket for

991
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: Collins at this one because they're down on Hiatt and

992
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 2: uh yeah Cloud.

993
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: Just joined the team.

994
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm done this week. Oh my god, I am

995
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 3: done trying to figure out Giants receivers outside of Wanda.

996
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 3: Wasn't uh Dave Davils first year, it was like he

997
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 3: had like seven guys. What Ken Holladay was there and

998
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 3: then like David Sills, the fifth was the man for.

999
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 2: Like Hodgens, hodgenss that's right, and then David Sills was

1000
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 2: out there. That's our guy. Who's the guy in the spot?

1001
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 2: Ricky Richie James, Richie James.

1002
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah lost hook. Oh yeah that I

1003
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: hated that season, trying to project those guys.

1004
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: Only the Giants most successful season in like the last

1005
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 2: dec but yeah, uh, I'm high on seems like a

1006
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: trend here the guy in the opposite side of this

1007
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: matchup Coast and Loveland going up against the Giants. And

1008
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: again I think even if Comet does make it back

1009
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: and beat that nine day median, I think Loveland is in.

1010
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: Wait, no Comet shoulder this time. It wasn't a concussion home.

1011
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: Let me double check, I have him.

1012
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 3: I have him doubtful this week, so I'm guessing it's

1013
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 3: the concussion. It was shoulder last week. I think he's

1014
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 3: in the concussion protocol. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, okay, yes,

1015
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 3: doubtful medium of.

1016
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 2: Nine day yep, median of nine days missed for that

1017
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: and under the new protocol, that's we saw a burden

1018
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 2: miss last week. So I think Comet is a good

1019
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: has a good shot to be out, and even if

1020
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: he's back, I think it's on pass downs gonna be

1021
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: at least two to one in in Loveland's favor, if

1022
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 2: not more.

1023
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: That's kind of how it was setting up early.

1024
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: In the game before Comet left with injury, where he

1025
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: was on the field more of the rundowns and we

1026
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: saw love Wind doing more of the passdowns.

1027
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: And that tends to be like intentional.

1028
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 2: If you look at, you know, the numbers for different

1029
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 2: kind of combinations of of you know, platoons at positions,

1030
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: coaches are probably maybe able to two intentional sometimes with

1031
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: like you know, thet they're preferred to, like running back

1032
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: runner will always be on the field on run plays

1033
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: and the preferred pass catcher roles to be on the

1034
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 2: field on pass plays and whatnot.

1035
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: So I think going forward, you know, love Wind should.

1036
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 2: Be a pretty pretty safe bet to maintain his you know,

1037
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: route rate in that normal tight end one rate, you know,

1038
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 2: seventy percent plus going forward. So love him against the

1039
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: Giants this week in a game that should have a

1040
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: high total and we could get a bonus of you know.

1041
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 3: Weight week.

1042
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 2: You know, maybe maybe you get guys, uh, maybe you

1043
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 2: get more injuries. You know, we never know, maybe Burden

1044
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,959
Speaker 2: doesn't return as.

1045
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: Quick as we thought.

1046
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 2: You know, in all three of the receivers, the starters

1047
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: were on the injury report last week, so who knows

1048
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: how healthy they are. It was just a wild game

1049
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: against the and Goes. But we know Loven was healthy

1050
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: because he ended it. So yeah, I love him this week,

1051
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: no pun intended. Who are you low on at tight end?

1052
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 3: I'm low on Dallas Goddard this week. You know, my

1053
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 3: I have tight end twelve to open the week, and

1054
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 3: my brain, you know, assumes aj Brown returns this week

1055
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 3: and doesn't get traded. I guess. But similar to why

1056
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 3: I was also lower on Jalen Hurts is the Eagles

1057
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 3: team total is only twenty one right now, which has

1058
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 3: to be the lowest implied team total for them in

1059
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 3: quite some talent time. And Goddard's been banking on touchdowns

1060
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: this year. He's been excellent. He has seven touchdowns this year,

1061
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 3: which you know helps him overcome some of the lower

1062
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 3: reception yardage games he's gonna get just because they are,

1063
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 3: you know, pretty run heavy. He's got to compete with

1064
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 3: aj Brown DeVante Smith. So this is a spot where

1065
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 3: just his touch on up side is a bit lower.

1066
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 3: He you know, I could obviously still score, but you're

1067
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 3: gonna need that probably from the hit value here, So

1068
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 3: a little bit lower. His ESCR is tight end seven

1069
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 3: right now. I don't have him there. I have your

1070
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: guy Colson Lovelin, I have Raked ahead of him. I

1071
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 3: have THEO Johnson, Kyle Pitts. Just too many tight ends.

1072
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 3: I like this week to have him inside my top ten.

1073
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 3: So he opens the week as my tight end twelve.

1074
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a.

1075
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: Tough projection too, because he's really been just maxing out

1076
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 2: the efficiency. So like I have tight end thirteen, I

1077
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: feel like that's too low, so I I gotta bump

1078
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: him up a little bit.

1079
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: But his route, what do you have his route rate.

1080
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 3: At Oh, it's always like ninety, right, I don't even

1081
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,959
Speaker 3: have to look. It's like eighty eight probably his number.

1082
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it was down.

1083
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 2: I think I have it at Yeah, it was down

1084
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: a little bit the last game. Now, I know they

1085
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 2: blew him out, but it hasn't been super consistent if

1086
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 2: you look at it, like his past snaps played like

1087
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 2: sometimes he'll be as low as seventy.

1088
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes he'll be at one hundred. So I have a

1089
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: more like eighty route rate.

1090
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: And yeah, with the lower total game, the touchdown like

1091
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: the multi touchdown game is not as in play.

1092
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a it is. Uh, it's this sliverery slope.

1093
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: He could be a guy that he if he doesn't

1094
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: go off.

1095
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 2: I mean he would be a candidate for like a

1096
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 2: maybe not a Cardio King, but like a zero or

1097
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 2: one catch game. I think that's in the range of outcomes. Yep,

1098
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 2: all right, I'm low on Evan Ingram. He is the

1099
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 2: ECR tight end fifteen. I mean I've said this all yeah,

1100
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,959
Speaker 2: I said this before the I just don't think Evan

1101
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 2: Ingram is gonna be a top fifteen caliber tight end

1102
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 2: even with the talent because of how Denver plays, and

1103
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 2: that's come to fruition. I mean, this should have been

1104
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: Evan Ingram's best game going up against a team with

1105
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: great corners, going up against or you know, with the

1106
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 2: with one of your top three tight ends out, and

1107
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 2: yet Ingram just disappears. Now, they could kind of grease

1108
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: the squeaky we have a little bit here, but that's

1109
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: they also got Courtland Sutton to Greece and he only

1110
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 2: had one catch last week. So I just think that

1111
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 2: in a game where the Broncos could build the weed,

1112
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 2: they're almost double digit favorites, that would you would think

1113
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 2: lead to less passing.

1114
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: Peyton is unpredictable at.

1115
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 2: Times, but just what we've seen, we're halfway through the

1116
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 2: season now and Evan Ingram really hasn't seen this rout

1117
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: rate tick up above that seventy percent range. Is just

1118
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 2: I don't know what we're hanging our hats on with

1119
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 2: Evan Ingram at this point. To call him, you know,

1120
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 2: like a fringe, fringe tight end one, it's just not

1121
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 2: really it just hasn't really been there for him whole

1122
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 2: year when he's had their receptions still low yardage totals,

1123
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 2: one touchdown on the year, which I think both of

1124
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 2: us kind of thought might be the case.

1125
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 3: So down on Ingram, Yeah, and he was drafted but

1126
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 3: like the tight end eight or something ridiculous.

1127
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Lowan probably out for gooses him after all.

1128
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 2: Warren definitely will.

1129
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Warren is for sure. But again that's that

1130
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 3: frozen pond range where people were probably like hanging on

1131
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 3: him a bit too long just because you spend decent

1132
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 3: draft cable, we'll get a guy in the top ten

1133
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 3: and then you should have been duffing him for you know,

1134
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 3: Gadson a few weeks ago. You just get really caught,

1135
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 3: you know, through pants down having these like Evan Ingram types.

1136
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: Was the guy I was targeting.

1137
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 2: Like, in addition that Warren and low and so like that,

1138
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: you don't there's a lot of situations where people probably

1139
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: didn't even need to drop guys. There's just literally avoid

1140
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 2: Evan was probably the best, the best. We need a

1141
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 2: tight end prop which.

1142
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 3: Rookie tight end will score more half PPR points this week,

1143
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 3: Arondez Gatson the second or Tyler Warren straight up straight up.

1144
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 2: Uh ronde Gatson because three and Lawren's by tider. Let's

1145
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 2: see how much of us split I have. I have

1146
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: a point, Gadson a point higher because I am number one.

1147
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: He's been lately.

1148
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: I think he's been more consistent and the Steers just

1149
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: can't get their shit together. I mean, I know they

1150
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: they had a good, like a decent game last week,

1151
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 2: but Daniel Jones stopped.

1152
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: Through for how many yards?

1153
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? Something crazy?

1154
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm gonna roll Againston.

1155
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 2: I think also because my route projection for Allen is decreasing,

1156
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: might be a little lower than the market that is,

1157
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: that is kind of helping Gadson, Whereas with Warren, remember

1158
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 2: he didn't play with piercon downs at times this year,

1159
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: so both of those guys been in the lineup at

1160
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: the same time. With Pittman's re emergence, Yeah, yeah, I

1161
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 2: think there's just a little bit more competition. It seems

1162
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 2: crazy because the Chargers have a like competition too. Gas

1163
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 2: is just like he's just kind of taken over as

1164
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: that number two Ish got really kind of almost like

1165
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 2: the number one. It's just usually one of the receivers

1166
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: will be number one, and then Gats will be number two.

1167
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 3: All the receivers are healthy. Imagine lad misses a game

1168
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 3: being misses a game, Quentin. That's what like brock Bauer

1169
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 3: season was like last year, just the perfect storm. So

1170
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 3: Gadson has yet to have that happen. Uh, he didn't

1171
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 3: really become a full time player until a few weeks ago,

1172
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 3: and just the discourse around Tyler Warren is you know, warranted,

1173
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 3: like he was looking like a legit tight end one

1174
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 3: overall candidate still might be. But if Gadson was in

1175
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 3: this role from week one, he'd be in the mix too.

1176
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 3: So it's just been cool to see both rookie tight ends,

1177
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 3: you know, balling out and already top five options already.

1178
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, with Gadson, I mean, what are the chances Gadson

1179
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 2: just overtakes Warren for this?

1180
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: Like Gadson, what are the chances Gadson finishes as the

1181
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: tight end one?

1182
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 3: Well, that's what I'm saying. He would have odds. It

1183
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 3: would be like twenty to one, right, not even looking

1184
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 3: at the points, but he'd be twenty to one. He

1185
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 3: would have to just go bananas and he'd probably Tucker

1186
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 3: Craft is out for the season, So Tucker Craft was

1187
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 3: the tight end two Ferguson's upsides kind of cap with

1188
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 3: CD back, So yeah, there's a chance that Gatson ends

1189
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 3: up being the tight end one overall.

1190
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: But he had ten right now.

1191
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he missed like, let's say he missed three games,

1192
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 3: three or three games, four games, two games.

1193
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, weeks too. So through week five he had seventy

1194
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: six total receiving yards and no touchdowns.

1195
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 3: But he wasn't he had he had a good Week

1196
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 3: three and then they went back to the Conklin experiment

1197
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 3: and then they scraped that. So really he's been playing

1198
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 3: for four weeks now and he's already the tight end ten.

1199
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, if he was doing this from the start

1200
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 3: of the season, Yeah, Titland went overall upside.

1201
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: He's got target upside too.

1202
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 2: Five targets the last two weeks each like ten total

1203
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 2: targets the last two weeks. Ten total catches for one

1204
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 2: hundred and forty five yards and a tuddy twenty five

1205
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 2: point five twenty five and a half half PPR points

1206
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 2: on five targets per game is absurd. So he's either

1207
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 2: going to regress horribly for us or in his managers,

1208
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 2: or just have a monster second half.

1209
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 3: He's going to have a you know, two catch for

1210
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 3: twenty two yard game. Every tight end does except for McBride. Right,

1211
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 3: McBride's maybe the most dudproof tight end.

1212
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: But he just doesn't catch touchdowns, but he'll he'll, Yeah.

1213
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 3: He's a highest catch baw but gets. Every tight end

1214
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 3: is going to have a dud So when that happens,

1215
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 3: people are gonna overreact, I think. But we've we've yet

1216
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 3: to see it since he took over, So he's really

1217
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 3: just a high four, high ceiling tight at a top

1218
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 3: five option right now.

1219
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1220
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 2: I think the reason McBride is just ultra ultra ultra

1221
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 2: consistent is because the Cardinals are one of those teams

1222
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: that will not only do they have like cardio king

1223
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 2: types like Wilson and Jay Jones, but they play a

1224
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 2: lot of two tight end and you know, the second

1225
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 2: tight end and that was usually gonna uh you know,

1226
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 2: be a low.

1227
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: Target guy, but also a lot of tackle eligible.

1228
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 2: Those situations are just a lot more consistent because if

1229
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 2: you remove like one of the eligible receivers on even

1230
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: more pass snaps, and usually the teams that are already

1231
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: like you know, kind of using a lot of extra

1232
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 2: heavy personnel and blockers, now they're using even more with

1233
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 2: you know, uh, you know, taking a like a received

1234
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 2: wide receiver off the field. Like that's McBride's like expected

1235
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 2: target rate on like a bunch of his routes is

1236
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 2: like forty percent.

1237
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, yeah, all.

1238
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: Right, that is getna do it.

1239
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:05,880
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1240
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:10,200
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1241
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,920
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