1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: With rookies due to arrive in town. Who are we 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: most excited to see on the field? Welcome Bird Gang. 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: On today's show, Zach Ershman joins me, two weeks worth 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: of waiting is just about over draft picks, undrafted rookie 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: free agents to the new faces. It's time to get 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: excited about the rookie class. If you weren't already. It's 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, Episode eight eighty one, and it starts now. 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: Who to Baker? What Heart? 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: What rent? 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable. 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: dot Com slash podcast. 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 3: He's ad the ten half of five. 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: He's it again, So more hurry magic whow. 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: Here's Craig Griolo. 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: So before we get on with what we're going to 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: talk about here on Wednesday, I just want to say this, 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: something big is happening. And I'll raise my hand saying 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I just know something 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: is going on here inside the Dignity Health Arizona Cardinals 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: Training Center. I know Zach, you've been a part of 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: it and you are very good about not saying what 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: is going on. But let me just say this bird 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: Gang again, I have no idea what's going on, but 27 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: there is a lot of activity and sometimes it involves players, 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: and sometimes it does not involve players. 29 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: And that's when I step in. When it doesn't involve players. 30 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 3: We have a lot of amazing things that are in 31 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: the that are about to take off for lack of 32 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 3: a better term, and that's something that is exciting. This 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: is the time of year, you know, we're you're no 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: longer starting to think about the draft and the free 35 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: agency and what has happened. You're not thinking about what 36 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: is going to happen, and it's an exciting time in 37 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: this building. 38 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: Creative juices are following, and we'll just kind of leave 39 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: it at that. Again, I'm I'm I'm in the dark 40 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 1: as many of you. So before I say anything more, 41 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: get Zack into any trouble. Let's just get down with 42 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 1: the show. 43 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 3: See, because you said, like, I do a good job 44 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: in not telling people things, and yeah, I do a 45 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: good job at keeping some secrets, but if you keep 46 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: asking some questions, I might crack a little. 47 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: So you are easily breakable, Is that's what you're saying. 48 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: I'm just like a rocket ship, just like taking off 49 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 3: into the into the universe, and you know, sometimes i 50 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: might go crash and fall. Other times I'm just keep 51 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 3: on sorry, rocket ship. 52 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: That's a that's a great metaphor soaring. 53 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: That's some high school musical stuff. 54 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: All right, before Zach breaks out into tune, how about 55 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: we talk football? What we can talk about here on 56 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai, probably partner of the 57 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Rocky Minicamp begins on Friday. The rookies arrive 58 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: on Thursday. Physicals. Hey, this is what the building looks like. 59 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: This is where you're is. Here's your uniform, some equipment, 60 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: and then we'll hear from a lot of the rookies 61 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: on Thursday and Friday. But the big thing is is 62 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: we have seen these players on film, we have seen 63 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: them during the draft process, we've seen them on Draft Day. 64 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: But the next step is to see them on the 65 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: field and that comes on Friday, And yeah, I think 66 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: there's some excitement. It's not a twelve player draft class. 67 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: It's a seven player draft class with some undrafted rookie 68 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: free agents and a handful of tryout players. And let's 69 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: be clear, Friday is in this entire weekend. It's no veterans, 70 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: so the rookies have the building to themselves. You're in 71 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: shorts and T shirts, you're not in full pads, you're 72 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: not going full speed, but the mind will be racing 73 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: at one hundred miles an hour for all of these rookies. 74 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 3: So it is the heart because there's a lot of 75 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: nervousness that's going to be going on. This is the 76 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: player's first opportunity to make that first impression. As in 77 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: our Zona Cardinal, a lot of these players, through the 78 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: conversations in the pre draft process and during the scouting 79 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: combine and during thirty visits, they are trying to impress Mani, 80 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: Austin for and Jonathan Gannon as prospects. What can I 81 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: bring to the table? Now talk is done, it's a 82 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: matter of what are you able to do? And it's 83 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 3: not that talk is gonna be or when you talk 84 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 3: and talk you walk the wall. It's not that their 85 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: play is going to define them over these next three 86 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 3: four days. Once they're in the building. Over the rookie 87 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 3: menting camp, weekend, they'll have parts of OTAs in training 88 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 3: camp to also have that opportunity. But that doesn't mean 89 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: that first impressions don't last. And I think back to 90 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: when Rabbit Taylor Demerson came into the building and man, 91 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: did his personality just radiate throughout the entire facility. It 92 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 3: was something that you could tell that this guy can 93 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 3: be a star, that he's eager to learn and he's 94 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 3: willing to learn from Buddha Baker. And then when his 95 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 3: time came in when Jalen Thompson was injured for a 96 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: handful of games and Rabbit needed to start, there was 97 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: a lot of confidence in what he was able to 98 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 3: bring to the table. And that wasn't a surprise to 99 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 3: a lot of us because we saw during rookie mini 100 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: camp how the excitement he came in. He was bouncing 101 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: around all over the place, pun intended, everything was, you know, 102 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 3: was was clear from the jump. So first impressions do last. 103 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: Rabbit was very comfortable, whether it was here in studio 104 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: before the media, out on that football field, and again 105 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: we assume in the classroom we're not a part of 106 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: those conversations, but it does bring a good example to 107 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: the forefront. All right, rabbit made a good first impression 108 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: a year ago. Which rookie, whether it's a drafted rookie 109 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: or an undrafted rookie, who are you looking forward to seeing, 110 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: whether on that football field or maybe an interaction here 111 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: inside the building. 112 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: I would I know we're going to see a lot 113 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 3: of Will Johnson, and that's going to be the talk. 114 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 3: Will Johnson, Walt Nolan, the third those players are going 115 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 3: to be a part of that conversation. I'm really looking 116 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 3: forward to Jordan Birch because I think he is the 117 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 3: player in this draft class that is not being discussed 118 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: nearly enough. We think about it here. The outside linebacker 119 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 3: room was probably one b to the defensive line room 120 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: in too in terms of the union that needed the 121 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 3: most help. And you bring in Josh Sweat, awesome, fantastic. 122 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: You're gonna have a healthy bjo Jelari. Hopefully if his 123 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 3: recovery continues to go as scheduled, awesome, he comes back. 124 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: Those are great prospects, Those are great players you have 125 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 3: in the building. Baron Browning, Zaven Collins, you were able 126 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: to see climpses of is now he's going into his 127 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: third year at the outside linebacker position. But Jordan Birch 128 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: is coming in and he is a big body guy, 129 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: six foot four, two hundred and ninety something pounds if 130 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken, And to see him coming off the edge. 131 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: He had some times during his time at Oregon where 132 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 3: he had his hand in the dirt, but if you 133 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: have him standing off the edge not having his hand 134 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: in the dirt, just with the ability to pass, rush 135 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: and fly, I'm very excited to see what he brings 136 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: to the table. 137 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: I think you're onto something as far as Jordan not 138 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: being taught enough about even though you were the third 139 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: of the seven picks selected and in a room in 140 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: which yeah, he added Josh Swt you resigned Baron Browning, 141 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: but you really don't quite know. As far as an 142 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: edge rusher, Daven Collins is kind of in a category 143 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: by himself in that room because he does so much. 144 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: He fills so many different roles, play so many different positions. 145 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: But it's a good one for you. You brought up 146 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: Will Johnson, and of course to me, that's the player 147 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: that immediately came to mind, not because of what he 148 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: can do on the field, but I'm curious, how does 149 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: he carry himself because he is one very confident We 150 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: heard that in his post draft conference call, and then 151 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: the chip on the shoulder that he has falling from 152 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: the first round to the second round, and not early 153 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: in the second round, but pick forty seven. Do we 154 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: see that? Does it manifests itself amongst us, whether that's 155 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: the media, his fellow teammates, the coaches on the field. 156 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: What is Will john Watson look like? 157 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: And I think we have to we have to do 158 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: our due diligence of not trying to compare him to 159 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: some of the other personalities that are in that room, 160 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: because we saw very confident Will Johnson, but we also 161 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: saw a very frustrated Will Johnson. And when Maximella was 162 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: selected at pick forty one, if I'm not mistaken by 163 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals after they traded back in the second 164 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: round of the twenty twenty four NFL drafts, he was 165 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: selling me on that call, I'm a lockdown corner. And 166 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: we saw his personality, you know, start to radiate. And 167 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: then we saw Elijah Jones who came into the building 168 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 3: and just how his mentals were discussed in a way 169 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: that was very similar to Garrett Williams and you're starting 170 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 3: to think to yourself, like, Okay, Will Johnson right now 171 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 3: is coming in with the reputation of being a first 172 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: round pick, so there's a lot of excitement and a 173 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: lot of hype surrounding him. How he carries himself is 174 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 3: going to be very important because all positions, all starting 175 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: roles in that quarterback room are up for grabs right now. 176 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: There will be competition come July August and then into 177 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: week one in September. So I'm also very interested to 178 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 3: see it. I just when I think about what can 179 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: we learn from these rookie mini camps. Everybody's going to 180 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 3: be trying to have their you know, put their best 181 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: foot forward. Everyone's gonna be trying to do the best 182 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: to make that solid first impression. But it's also how 183 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: much can they pick up and learn from this weekend that, 184 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: you know, when we get to reintroduce ourselves to them 185 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 3: come training camp, we see how much they actually picked up. 186 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: And Will's wearing number zero, and he's wearing zero for 187 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: a reason. On the subjects of Will Johnson, Bucky Brooks 188 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: on NFL dot Com listed ten perfect player team fits 189 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: in terms of culture and scheme. Ten of the two 190 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty seven players drafted, and on that list, 191 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: Bucky included Will Johnson. And this is what Bucky wrotes. 192 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon's vision and break scheme perfectly matches Johnson's skills 193 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: as a ball hawking cover corner with superb instincts, awareness, 194 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: and diagnostic skills. Then Bucky added this, the Cardinals defense 195 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: features several zone based concepts that will enable Johnson to 196 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: produce turnovers and a scheme that encourages him to play 197 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: aggressively in a sea ball get ball manner. And to me, Zach, 198 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: that's the next step for this Cardinals not defense. Cardinals 199 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: secondary get the ball, whether that's a interception or a 200 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: pass defense. Can they get their hands on more footballs? Yes, 201 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: the pass rush will certainly help and improve pass rush, 202 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: but can we see more knockdowns that ball hitting the 203 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: ground as opposed to the ball getting caught Exactly? 204 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: There needs to be a little bit more physicality, And 205 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: I know that in a league where you know, the 206 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: official sometimes can be a little bit flag happy against 207 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 3: some of the defensive backs, and defensive pass interferences are 208 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: called a lot more often than the other side of 209 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: the ball. There's a little bit of that hesitancy from 210 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: some of the defensive backs at Michigan. Will Johnson played 211 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 3: with such physicality and such violence that he fits that 212 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: mold into exactly what JG and Nick Rolis are looking 213 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: for out there. He had three pick sixes during his 214 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: time at Michigan while only allowing two total touchdowns, which 215 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: is incredibly impressive to have more touchdowns yourselves than touchdowns allowed. 216 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: And the thing is, though he had no issue going 217 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 3: up and grabbing the ball and jumping in front of 218 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: a defender or in front of a receiver. I think back, 219 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: and it's funny that this is the way that it is. 220 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: When I think Will Johnson, I think about that game 221 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 3: against Ohio State where he jumps the route in front 222 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 3: of Marvin Harrison Junior, who is an Ohio State wide 223 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 3: receiver and intercepts it in one of the most crucial 224 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 3: games at least in that rivalry's history. So to see 225 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: that now that's going to be taking place at practice, 226 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: I think that that's going to make Marvin Harrison Junior 227 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: a better wide receiver because he's going to have to 228 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: warrant to play with that physicality and add a little 229 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: bit more. I don't want to say effort, because I 230 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: don't want to question that from MHJ. But that ability 231 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: to play a little bit. We're tough on the outside 232 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 3: when you're going up against a cornerback, because we saw 233 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 3: that there were times where against Jalen Ramsey, against some 234 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: of the other cornerbacks that MHJA had to go against, 235 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: they sometimes had their way with him. And whether that 236 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: was because he was a rookie was still learning how 237 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: cornerbacks are going to be guarding him, or however it is, 238 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: I think that that's going to be both important for 239 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 3: Marvin and for Will in their next step of their development. 240 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: And with the cornerback, I'd much rather have them play 241 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: aggressive and be told to dial it back because you 242 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: can't get that handsy on Sundays, you are going to 243 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: get flag. But there is a way to be aggressive 244 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: without drawing that penalty. And I think that's something Will 245 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: Johnson will have to learn. If he does, maybe he 246 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: doesn't have to learn it, maybe just a natural fit 247 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: to Bucky Brooks's point on NFL dot Com to where 248 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: he does fit within this scheme and fit within the NFL. 249 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: I just find it interesting that you brought up Ohio 250 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: state highlights, not any Penn State highlights. Will Johnson playing 251 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: against the Nitney Lions. 252 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: I just don't remember, remember, Okay, I don't remember those. 253 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 3: And I'm like, not even joking, like. 254 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: You've blocked it out of your memory. 255 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 3: I've really When I think of Michigan, I think of 256 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 3: that twenty nineteen white out game when Jim Harbaugh's calling 257 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 3: the time out before the first snap of the game. 258 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 3: I don't think about it. And Will Johnson was on 259 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: the team then. 260 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: So okay, fair enough. Two other players that I kind 261 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: of think about. What what are you laughing about over there? No, 262 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: just it always comes back to Penn State somehow. So 263 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: we are we are very happy you bring up Ohio State. 264 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: How about Cody Simon? How does he command the field? 265 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: And again we're talking about a dozen players or so, 266 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: but first impression, can he come in, Yes, he's a 267 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: fourth round pick, but can he come in, pick up 268 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: the playbook, learn in the classroom and take those learnings 269 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: out on the football field to where he's not swimming, 270 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: not thinking, he's just reacting. And all of a sudden, 271 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: these coaches think, hey, you know what, there might be 272 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: a possibility of Cody coming in and being our day 273 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: one inside linebacker perhaps where that Grain Dot the ten 274 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: other guys in position for this before the snap. But 275 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: again it's what he does this weekend. Is it not 276 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: too big for him the role that we all envision 277 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: him to have, perhaps for the Cardinals. 278 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think it'll be too big. Look, 279 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: Cody Simon very similar to Will Johnson and Marvin Harrison 280 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: Junior and Walter Nolan. They State Farm Stadium is only 281 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: gonna seat sixty five thousand plus seats. They played at 282 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 3: the Horseshoe, which sat over one hundred thousand people, So 283 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 3: that's nearly double the size. And that's how it is 284 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: at most major colleges. That's not a slight at State 285 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: Farm Stadium because it also makes like in Financial Field 286 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 3: and Arrowhead Stadium and Hallmark Stadium for the or high 287 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: Mark Stadium rather for the Buffalo Bills. It makes all 288 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: these stadiums who look very small. It's just the way 289 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 3: that colleges are able to pack everybody in with zero 290 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: regard for comfort. You're going there for the collegiate ball. 291 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: But he's so used to. 292 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: Playing in high pressure environments. He just played in the 293 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 3: National championship was the green dot in a National championship game. 294 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 3: I think coming in rookie mini camp, he's gonna be 295 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: able to a lot of the guys. Yeah, there's gonna 296 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: be nerves, there's gonna be some excitement that's gonna be 297 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 3: there too. But there's a reason why the Cardinals were 298 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 3: able to nab him there in the fourth round, and 299 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 3: we're able to have that confidence. And because we're starting 300 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 3: to see now the trickle down effect of post draft 301 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: free agency, how are teams bringing in some guys, Trades 302 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 3: that are being made, you know, different transactions throughout around 303 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: the league. If the Cardinals want to bring back a 304 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: guy like Kaisier White or find another inside linebacker, they could. 305 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: They haven't yet because I think that there's some confidence 306 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: in what Cody Simon can bring to the table. 307 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: And whether that is Week one or later on in 308 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: the season. But a Day three pick coming in to 309 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: play meaningful snaps is not unusual. Chad Ruter nfl dot 310 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: Com named sixteen Day three picks he believes can compete 311 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: for starter snaps as rookies, and he noted in this article, 312 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: which I found fascinating zachly that last season there were 313 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: eleven of the one hundred and fifty seven Day three 314 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: selections that started eight or more games. That was up 315 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: from one from the twenty twenty three class, down from 316 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: sixteen in twenty twenty two. So you're looking on average 317 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: about a dozen or so players on Day three that 318 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: if you're lucky enough to hit on that not all 319 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you've got a starter or a rotation, 320 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: a key rotation piece, not only in year one but 321 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: hopefully for years to come. And we're projecting here about 322 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: Cody Simon, but can he be that guy as an 323 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: inside linebacker who maybe doesn't have the physicals traits, the speed, 324 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: the athleticism, but it's the instincts And that's what we've 325 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: heard about Cody Simons is his instincts. And yes, you 326 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: don't have Kayzier White here anymore. And whether or not 327 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: he comes back, I think with a passing day it's 328 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: less and less likely, unfortunately for our man Cody Fincher 329 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: over here on the other side of the glass. But again, 330 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: you're looking for something different, and if this defense is 331 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: going to be different and maybe a pro twotent different scheme, 332 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: you might have less inside linebackers, especially if it's Mac 333 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: Wilson Senior and Cody Simon as your two guys, and 334 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: Mac does what Mac does, and he could be anywhere 335 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: on the line of scrimmage or dropping into covers. 336 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's also fair as the Cardinals are 337 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: taking this next step year number three under jg Imani, 338 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 3: Asin Ford and defensive coordinator Nick Rowis, it would it 339 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 3: also be a surprise if they just need a new voice, 340 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 3: a fresh voice, somebody that's different than what Kaizer White 341 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: brought to the table. I love Kaizer White, and I 342 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: thought he did a great job as the Green Dot 343 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 3: the past two years. To respect he had of his teammates, 344 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: there's a reason why he was a two time captain. 345 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 3: But Cody Simon also had that similarly as a team 346 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 3: captain at Ohio State. Now he gets to come in 347 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: here and compete for that spot to be the Green Dot. 348 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 3: You also can't forget about it Keem Davis Gaither. There's 349 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: a reason why they brought him in early on in 350 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: the free agency cycle, why they were able to inculd 351 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 3: deal with the out with the inside linebacker from the 352 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals. However, when I look at it, Cody Simon 353 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: it's a lot of the intangibles that instincts, the communication factor. 354 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: Those are things that he excelled at at Ohio State 355 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 3: that I believe have nothing to do about the next 356 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 3: level of making it. The skill set is different when 357 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 3: you're making that jump from college to the NFL, but 358 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: when it comes to your instincts and your communication, your 359 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 3: communication skills, I believe that they need to be there, 360 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: no matter if it's in high school, college or in 361 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 3: the NFL. 362 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: On the subjects of Cody Simon in this NFL dot 363 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: com article, they note that Simon can drop into coverage 364 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: effectively looks like he's shot out of a cannon. To 365 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: use your words, you're phrasing there, Zach Whin blitzing the 366 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: a gap or coming off the edge. And then Chad 367 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: noted that a fact that he expects Cody Simon to 368 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: be a factor on special teams and should be lining 369 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,479 Speaker 1: up with the ones at some point in the season, 370 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: if not the opener. Again, it is a tall order. 371 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: It is going to be a difficult task. But you're 372 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: talking about someone at Ohio State who started a two 373 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: year starter team captain, but played sixty games over his 374 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 1: five years and has the perfect mentor next to him 375 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: in that room in mac Wilson Senior. So if there's 376 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: someone that can do it, I see no reason why 377 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: it can't be Cody Simon based off where he went 378 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: to school, what he did at Ohio State and coming 379 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: in here where there is an opening, if you will, 380 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: there is a potential role for him to step into. 381 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: Now it's on him to get to that point. 382 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 3: There's also a respect factor there, he said in his 383 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 3: interview after the draft, in our conference phone call with him, 384 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 3: when when we asked him about mac Wilson Senior announcing 385 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: his selection from Mexico, and he said, man, I watched 386 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: mac Wilson when I was in high school, which Mack 387 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 3: then retweeted my tweet zach Asy cards and said, well 388 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 3: well done, thank you and said, uh, how you definitely 389 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 3: thought he was saying, you know, and now he feels 390 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 3: like he's getting so much older. But there's that respect 391 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: factor there between Cody knowing that he gets to come 392 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: in look up to somebody like MacWilson Senior and also 393 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: was able to see and we'll see and we'll hear 394 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 3: about through conversation with Mac about how the Cardinals were 395 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 3: able to utilize them in different ways. There's a chance 396 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 3: that the Cardinals see what a Keem Davis gather and 397 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: Michael Walker as well, who they brought in from the 398 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 3: Washington Commanders, who both of those guys have not played 399 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: a lot of defensive snaps, mostly special teams roles. Now 400 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 3: they both all three of them get to compete to 401 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 3: join Mac Wilson as a starter. It's going to be 402 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 3: a very interesting competition. I think that there's a lot 403 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 3: of position groups you can start to show in and 404 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: pencil in who you think is going to be a starter. 405 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 3: I think that inside liback room is going to be 406 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 3: one that literally will go down until week one. 407 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: And we've said this before, echo winning JAG's comments, it 408 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: doesn't matter once you start practice. It doesn't matter how 409 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: you got here. You're here, whether you're an incumbent, whether 410 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: you're a free agent, whether you're a draft pick regardless 411 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: of where you're drafted, or you're an undrafted rookie. You're 412 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: here for a reason. Now all bets are off, everyone 413 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: starts from zero. Now becomes how well do you pick 414 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: things up? How well do you translate those learnings out 415 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: on football field? And yeah, some guys will have a 416 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: longer leash based off their contract status, their seniority where 417 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: they were selected. But if you're not holding up your end, 418 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you're a Day one pick or 419 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: a Day two pick. If someone on Day three passes 420 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: you by, you're passed by. And now all of a sudden, 421 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: you got to catch up. 422 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: Okay, think about that inside or that defensive line room. 423 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 3: Dante Stills was a six round guy, and I think 424 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 3: that first season everyone's starting to say, all right, well, 425 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 3: just the pieces that the Arizona Cardinals have Dante Stills, 426 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 3: he might have overperformed, he might have exceeded some expectations 427 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 3: that first season. Next year, they're gonna revamp the defensive 428 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 3: line room. We'll see what ends up happening. You keep 429 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 3: Roy Lopez, you bring back L J. Collier, you sign 430 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 3: Justin Jones and below Nichols, and you draft Darius Robinson. 431 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: All Right, it might be looking a little bit bleak 432 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 3: for Dante Stills. Look what he was able to do. 433 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 3: He was able to maximize his opportunity earn a lot 434 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 3: of starts through the injuries. Now we're unfortunate to Justin 435 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 3: Jones and Below Nichols and Darius Robinson. He did a 436 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 3: great job as that that trio with him, LJ and Lopez. 437 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 3: Now you know, a similar conversation is starting to be 438 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 3: had with Dante again. What is that defensive line room 439 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: going to look like? Because now you have Walt Nolan, 440 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 3: the third that's coming in. You brought back Kalayas Campbell 441 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 3: after a handful of years from his time in the Valley, 442 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 3: You bring in Dalvin Tomlinson, and you have a returning 443 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 3: Justin Jones of Baal Nichols. It's starting to look a 444 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 3: little bit bleak again for a guy like Dante Stills. 445 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 3: But he showed and he proved I think better out 446 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: of any the best out of anybody in that fifty 447 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 3: three man locker room. Just how pointless your draft status 448 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 3: is comes Sunday, because if you're able to come in 449 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: and you're able to make an impact and deliver. When 450 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 3: Dante Stills had the five sacks he had last year, 451 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: not a single time where we like, wow, that's a 452 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: sixth round pick that did that. Right, that's a defensive 453 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 3: lineman for the Arizona Cardinals who continues to exceed expectations. 454 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: Another draft pick that I'm curious about because He's going 455 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: to be the only one in the room, at least 456 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: based off the list that I have seen, and that 457 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: is Hayden Connor, an interior offensive lineman. Cardinals did sign 458 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: three undrafted rookies on the old line, but they're all tackles, 459 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: whether it's left or right. And again, so you're limited 460 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: in what you really can see. But does Hayden Connor 461 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: show the footwork to be an effective guard, whether that's 462 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: on the left side or the right side. How is 463 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: he how are his hips as far as moving can 464 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: he pull? Again, you're not going full speed, But we 465 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: talk about open positions inside linebacker. You brought up guard, 466 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: whether that's on the left side or the right side, 467 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: Evan Brown? Does he stay on the left? Does he 468 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: move to the right? Now, all of a sudden, you've 469 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: got a new body, a new name, and yeah, someone 470 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: who is selected in the sixth round. More difficult to 471 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: make a team when you're that late drafted. But you 472 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: just mentioned Dante Stills and situations happened in front of him, 473 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: ie injuries allowing him to be a key contributor. And 474 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: who's to say that can't be Hayden Connor for a 475 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: position right now? That certainly has a question mark, or 476 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: at least you penciled in maybe Isaiah Adams, but you're 477 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: not quite sure based off what you saw last season, 478 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: a couple of starts late, but who's going to be 479 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: in the mix for that position. 480 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 3: Evan Brown was an undrafted guy in twenty eighteen, so 481 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 3: he has the opportunity to come in and look across 482 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: the room and say, all right, Kelvin Beacham was the 483 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 3: seventh round player. These are players that have been able 484 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: to create and craft a strong career in the NFL 485 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 3: despite their draft status and despite where they went. Obviously, 486 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 3: everybody would love to be the Parashawnson junior and walk 487 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 3: across the stage and get to hug the commissioner and 488 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: have that first round moment that only happens for thirty 489 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: two different players each year, and that with the league 490 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 3: as big as the NFL, that list gets smaller and 491 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 3: smaller and smaller every single year in terms of how 492 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 3: many players first round guys are still active in the NFL. 493 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 3: But you see so many players out are Day two selections, 494 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 3: Day three selections that continue to have that longevity of 495 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 3: their career. So it doesn't mean and it's how a 496 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: lot of teams are built. It's where they're foundation. You're 497 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 3: able to find a star player in the first round, 498 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 3: but your core pieces are day two, Day three guys. 499 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: Hayden Connor gets the Joiner room with an undrafted Evan Brown, 500 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 3: a third round pick, and Isaiah Adams a compete for 501 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 3: a role, and also John Gaines who is a fifth 502 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 3: round pick if I'm not mistaken to twenty twenty three. 503 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: So that room itself has faced a lot of different 504 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 3: you know, it's been a revolving door at points with 505 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 3: different offensive linemen coming into the room. But Hayden Connor 506 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 3: comes in and he very well could compete for that role. 507 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: Some love for the undrafted rookies who are going to 508 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: be in town. I mentioned offensive lineman sign one out 509 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: of Ohio State, Josh Fryer, who gets reconnected with his 510 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: position coach at Ohio States, and Justin Frye is now 511 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: position coach here with the Arizona Cardinals and someone who 512 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: did based off reporting, receive a significant signing bonus to 513 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: convince him to come to Arizona. Now, all of a sudden, 514 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 1: is he potentially a developmental guy because you're not going 515 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: to know what's going to happen at the tackle position, 516 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: right tackle after this upcoming season with Joona will Williams 517 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: and Kelvin Beacham on one year deals or with Williams 518 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: on the last year of a two year contract. So 519 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: Josh Bryer, I'm curious on what he might be able 520 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: to show, not just this weekend, but this entire offseason, 521 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: considering again the connection with his position coach, and then 522 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: the investment, the financial investment that was made in him the. 523 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 3: Year prior to twenty to twenty four, and when they 524 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 3: put a significant investment, to use your word, into an 525 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 3: undrafted rookie, it was to Xavier Weaver, and in that 526 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 3: wide receiver room, Xavier Weaver was only active for a 527 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 3: handful of games, but you could tell that the Cardinals 528 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 3: have any vision for him that was beyond just this 529 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 3: year or just that twenty twenty four season. And I'm 530 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 3: very interested to see what that's going to be in 531 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five with Zay Weaver. However, my point being, 532 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 3: when these players are available, you have to do whatever 533 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: you can and that vision. We talk about the role, 534 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 3: how the role on day one could be very different 535 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 3: than day fifteen th very different than Week seven and 536 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 3: even going into the next season, so they might see 537 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 3: something and Josh Friar and say, all right, we have 538 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 3: somebody here that could use a little bit of work. 539 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 3: We're gonna work with him, We're gonna develop him, and 540 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 3: down the line we'll see what he could be. It's 541 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 3: a worthy investment. 542 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: Xavier Weaver made the team Starling Thomas a couple of 543 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: years back, uncle, or I should say, undrafted by the 544 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, but the Cardinals claimed him made the roster. 545 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: Amaro de Mercado better example as far as an undrafted 546 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: free agent of the Cardinals sign makes the team. In fact, 547 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: this little nugget for Mike cum and media relations. Ten 548 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: times in the past thirteen years at least one undrafted 549 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: free agent has made the Cardinals Week one roster. So 550 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: it is possible. Yes, it is a steep hill to climb, 551 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: but we've seen it. I just gave you three examples, 552 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: two specific Arizona Cardinals undrafted free agents, and you claimed 553 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: an undrafted one in Starling Thomas. But those are three names. 554 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: We haven't seen quite nearly as much from Xavier Weaver 555 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: except for late last season. But at least with Amari 556 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: and star. Those are key contributors on offense and defense 557 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: and also play some special teams. That's the other aspect 558 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: of these rookies that are coming in. How many of 559 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: them outside of Keaton Crawford actually have played significant special 560 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: teams during their college career. 561 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 3: I'm not sure how long we've been going, but this 562 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 3: has been the longest we've been on a podcast together 563 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 3: and not mentioned Kean Crawford's name, So so shame on us. 564 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 3: Shame on now. I'm joking. Obviously, Bryson Green, another wide 565 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 3: receiver that the Cardinals have, is undrafted rookie free agent. 566 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 3: He's going to be coming in, and then that's what 567 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 3: it's going to come down to, is what can you 568 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 3: do with that special teams opportunity? That phase of the 569 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 3: game is so important to this staff. Jonathan Gannon always 570 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: talks about it, and it is a weekly press conferences. 571 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 3: I remember doing a story on Blake Gilkin and Max 572 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: Melton and a handful of the Cardinals defenders who start 573 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 3: and play significant snaps on their side of the ball, 574 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: but they also play a key role on special teams. 575 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 3: And I remember Max melon and Blake Gilkin both telling 576 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 3: me that every week they start off their team meeting 577 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: when they're going through the goals, their number one goal 578 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 3: is it's the razor goal is to be perfect on 579 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 3: special teams. You do that, everything else is going to 580 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 3: start to fall into place. With these undrafted guys, they 581 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 3: have to understand that when you're in college, you could 582 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 3: kind of graduate to the defensive side the ball or 583 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 3: the offensive side of the ball ball and forego your 584 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 3: opportunities as a special teamer. 585 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: In the NFL. It's not always like that. 586 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 3: Sometimes this is the only way you're going to be 587 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 3: able to make your money, get your bread. You think 588 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: about it with a keem Davis gaither with Michael Walker, 589 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 3: the Cardinals saw something through their special team's ability that 590 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 3: gave him the confidence to say, all right, well, we 591 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 3: want to also see what you could do on the 592 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball. 593 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: We spent a lot of time in a couple of 594 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: different shows in the past. You can go to the 595 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: archives to check them out. But we went back and forth, Okay, 596 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: who do we expect on this draft class to be 597 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: a Day one starter? Well, how about we spin it 598 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: and say who's going to be the first rookie to 599 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: see the field? It very well could be Keaton Crawford 600 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: because the first unit we see on the field is kickoff, 601 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: whether that's kickoff or kickoff return, and over one thousand 602 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: special team snaps in his career, one thousand special team 603 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: snaps in college, and I'm guessing that's across the board. 604 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: Maybe not on field goal block, maybe as the outside guy, 605 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: but that's someone that if your special teams coordinator, Jeff Rodgers, 606 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: you're looking at tape and you're looking at those a 607 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: thousand snaps and going, Okay, well, there's a reason he 608 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: was on the field for so many of those. How 609 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: do we make it work here, whether that is on again, 610 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: kickoff punt, or even on field goal. 611 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: One thousand and ten career special team snaps to be yes, 612 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: make sure we get not missaking. I'm pretty sure it's 613 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 3: one thy and ten. And it's not just special team 614 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 3: snaps from his time at Nevada. It's also special team 615 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 3: snaps from his time at Texas. He was at Texas 616 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: for a handful of years, those teammates with Hayden Conner 617 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 3: and now get and then transferred from Texas to Nevada 618 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: or Nevada, I'm gonna be rotating. 619 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: It's Nevada, Nevada, Nevada. How do you say Oregon? 620 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 3: Oregon? 621 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that one. 622 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 3: I don't understand how people say orgon that. 623 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: Well, we can talk about when you when you introduce yourself. 624 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: Jordan Burge ask him where he went to school, see 625 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: how he pronounced, just to see. 626 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 3: Look during his time in Reno, Heat and Crawford, We're 627 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 3: going to go back to there. He transferred to Reno 628 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: because he wanted more opportunities as a secondary as a 629 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 3: safety defensive back and was able to show what he 630 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 3: was able to bring to the table because he was 631 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 3: in a loaded defensive back room. During his time at Texas, 632 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 3: he was mostly a special teams guy. He remained a 633 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 3: special teams guy in Nevada. I said it right there, 634 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 3: special teams guy in Nevada, and he also was able 635 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 3: to develop as a safety. And Mania Ospin for discussed 636 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 3: how they want to be able to see what he's 637 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 3: able to bring to the table. Put him in that 638 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 3: safety room. That's kind of where they hit vision envisioned 639 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 3: him mostly but knowing what he's able to bring as 640 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 3: a special teamer. I asked Mania Austin for how could 641 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 3: you tell when somebody genuinely loves that fastest the game 642 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 3: versus just trying to get in the field. He says, 643 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 3: it's very clear. You just watch him playing, you're able 644 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 3: to see how it's done. Keen Crawford's a guy that 645 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: loves that phase of that of the game. 646 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: Keaton tested very well at the Scouting Combine a four 647 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: four to one forty among DB's, had the quickest twenty 648 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: yard shuttle, tied for the second highest vertical leap, third 649 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: fastest three cone. So he is very athletic. And we 650 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: mentioned again the special teams. One career blockfield goal, one 651 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: career block punt was an honorable mention All Big Twelve 652 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: selection in twenty twenty three because of his special teams play. 653 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: So if he can do that on this level, meaning 654 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: the NFL level, he could have a very successful career 655 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: as he waits for his time to play defense and 656 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: learn from a Buddha baker at Jalen Thompson in that room, right, 657 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to have a uniform, and there are some 658 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: guys in my room who might not. But because I do, now, 659 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm a snapper two away from 660 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: playing defense. 661 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 3: I'm keenan Crawford, I'm I'm eager to learn from Joey 662 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 3: Blunt as a special team's ace, like Joey Blunt is 663 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 3: as a gunner and through throughout his role, he's one 664 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 3: of the best special teams guys in the league, hands down, 665 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 3: just what he's ableed to how much he puts into 666 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 3: that phase of the game. Joey Blunt, that is now 667 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 3: he and he's also in that safety room. Joey Blunt 668 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 3: might not have had a lot of defensive snaps, although 669 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 3: he did have that interception in the game against Philadelphia 670 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 3: when they went when they went down to uh to 671 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 3: broad Street on New Year's Eve against the Eagles, and 672 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 3: he had that game stealing interception in the end zone. 673 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 3: Beyond that, Joey Blund doesn't have a lot of defensive 674 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 3: opportunities because you have a Jaylen Thompson, because you have 675 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 3: a Buddha Baker, because you have a Rabbit Tato Demerson 676 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 3: who's starting to earn his keeps and that and that 677 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 3: when the defensive back room. If I'm Keenan Crawford, I'm 678 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 3: I'm being a sponge to both Buddha Baker and the 679 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 3: defensive guys, but also to Joey Blunt in the special 680 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 3: team's room. 681 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun to watch. And 682 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: then here whether that is from Jonathan Gannon position coaches, teammates, 683 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: how are these guys interacting with one another who might 684 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 1: be a little bit of ahead of their teammates even 685 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 1: though maybe they were a Day three pick as opposed 686 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: to a Day one pick. And again it's it's gonna 687 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: be fun. And speaking of fun, I know, uh, I know, 688 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: we're we're taking you away, Zach from a very important duty. 689 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what it is. I just know 690 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: that you are not dressed like we typically dress here 691 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: on Monday, three Thursday. Deal. Yeah, it's a it's a 692 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 1: little bit different kind of address. But apparently you're needed 693 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: elsewhere I might be. 694 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 3: But this is fun to be. We have to chat 695 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 3: with the bird gang, talk the ball. This is this 696 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 3: is what it's all about. Everybody in the building would 697 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 3: rather probably have me here. 698 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: Well, that could go could that could be construed in 699 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: one of two different ways, so either a negative or 700 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: a positive. I would hope it's a positive. 701 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 3: Hopefully prove I had good information on Cardinals cover two. Uh, 702 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 3: but hey, I appreciate everybody listening regardless, just stay on 703 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 3: the lookout for the next you know, handful of days 704 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 3: and weeks and months and years, because we're gonna have 705 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 3: a lot of important stuff and I'm as broad as 706 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 3: I am for that exact reason. A lot of great 707 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 3: stuff is going to be hitting the Easy Cardinals airwaves 708 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 3: and social channels and the next little bit. So gotta 709 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 3: stay tuned. 710 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: Some good, some fun content ahead and we will have 711 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: it for you on Easycardinals dot com. Plus we'll talk 712 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: about it here on Cardinals Cover two. 713 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 3: When I come back, because this is my last Cardinals 714 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,439 Speaker 3: Cover two for him for a few weeks. 715 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: That's right. Enjoy your enjoy your outside work, your extra work, 716 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: and then the on assignment and there you go. And 717 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: we like that. We'd like that everyone likes that phrase. 718 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: What happen is always on assignment. 719 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 3: I just might be in the Caribbean on this assignment. 720 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: But okay, we shall see. You don't need to go 721 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: any further than that. All right, get back to work, Zach. 722 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: We'll do. On that note, we'll put a lid on 723 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals Over two, presented by Hyundai, proud 724 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to 725 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 1: our executive producer Jim Mamahundra, our associate producer Cody Fincher. 726 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: For Zach Kershman, I'm Craig Rayolu. We'll talk to you 727 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: next time here on Cardinals Cover two.