1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Jared pumps that left leg, takes the snap back looking 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: looking great protection, throws end zone. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 2: It is caught. 4 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? 5 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 4: Sam Laporta, What a crap right over the defender's head. 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Welcome for Week seven of the NFL season. 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: This is the twenty in the Huddle podcast. I am 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: Tim twentyman and it's a big game on Monday night 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: football ABC. So I thought no better than to have 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: the Channel seven ABC Sports director Brad Gallly on. Brad, 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: thanks for joining me. 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 4: I appreciate you pumping the applause please, yes, yes, guys, thikes. 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Live studio. You guys are great. 14 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 4: Thank you no, thanks for having me on and thanks 15 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 4: for letting me invite myself on. I think I said 16 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 4: to you in training camp how much fun I had 17 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 4: with you doing this last year and what a resource 18 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 4: you have become over these last year's man, to be 19 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 4: a for the Lions team that's rolling and for people 20 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 4: to come here every week get a player chat, and 21 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 4: so to be honest with you, man, I'm pumped. 22 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: It's a big one Monday night. 23 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: We just talked Lions two guys like we're in a 24 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: basement yeah, everybody does that. My x account is a 25 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: great example of that. All right, let's start with this 26 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: trivia with twenty men week seven since the start of 27 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, namely the two quarterbacks who have led 28 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: the NFL in passing yards and passing touchdowns. 29 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: In twenty three. 30 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 4: I think you're asking me because, well, I want to 31 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 4: go to golf and Josh Allen, but I'm gonna guess 32 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 4: that Baker Mayfield might be in there too. 33 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and Jared Goff and that to me. Obviously 34 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: you don't they're not on the field together. But that's 35 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: such a huge matchup in this game. You know, Jared 36 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: on the year is number one in passing touchdowns, number 37 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: two in passer rating, Mayfield's third in passing touchdowns and 38 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: top five and radio. I mean, these two guys are 39 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: playing at an MVP level. How fun are matchups like 40 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: this when you got two guys at the quarterback position 41 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: that are playing as well as they are. 42 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: After watching Lions games. 43 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 4: Before we watch these Lions games, I think the number 44 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 4: one highlight that's been most exciting week to week has 45 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 4: been watching what Baker Mayfield's done, not just what Tampa's done. 46 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: What Baker Mayfield has been good. And we've listened right 47 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 4: to the assistant coaches and Dan Campbell at the beginning 48 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 4: of the week talk about the respect that this coaching 49 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 4: staff and then everybody in this building has for Baker Mayfield, 50 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 4: not just what he's done in the past, but especially 51 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 4: what he's doing this year. Mike Evans has been out, 52 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 4: Chris Godwin's been out what he's done with a Mecca 53 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 4: Buca like he is a special brand of a winning quarterback. 54 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: And then on the flip side of it, people across 55 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 4: the NFL get bored a by what Jaric GoF does. 56 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 4: But if you're bored by excellence, man, you just don't 57 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 4: get it right. What he does is difficult, and I 58 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 4: think we're starting to unlock a little bit more publicly 59 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 4: what he does right, not just checks at the lines, 60 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 4: but almost creating plays and in talking to Dan and 61 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 4: with John Morton what he's doing. So I think watching 62 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 4: Jared take yet another step forward this year, seeing Baker 63 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: take another step forward this year puts us on a 64 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 4: collision course for what's going to be a great game. 65 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: You know, And it's two teams that are familiar with 66 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: each other too. I mean, it's to be the fourth 67 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: matchup in the last two years. Lions have two to 68 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 1: one advantage. Obviously the playoff win in twenty twenty three, 69 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: but that was a performance, you know that that Tampa 70 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: Bay came on the road and beat them last you know, 71 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: last year. And so when two teams know each other 72 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: as what can be the difference? What do you see 73 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: as maybe the biggest matchup or difference in this game Monday? 74 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 4: Now, Oh, I think those questions almost answer themselves, right, 75 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 4: Like you as a competitor, don't like being basically posterized. 76 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: And Baker last year was the leading rusher in this 77 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 4: game for Tampa and now I only had I think 78 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 4: thirty four to thirty five yards, but he posterized the 79 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 4: Lions linebackers a couple times and that's an amazing unit. Yeah, 80 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: but on his way to leading Tampa to a win. 81 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: So I think the biggest matchup is it's annoying, right, 82 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 4: we always say it, but like trying to contain a 83 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 4: mobile quarterback. Is he as mobile as some of the 84 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 4: other guys they have faced or will face. You could 85 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 4: argue yes, you could argue no. But I think the 86 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: pride factor from knowing each other from those linebackers, having 87 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 4: those moments like Derek Barnes did in the playoffs, that 88 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 4: rivalry almost of linebackers against Baker and seeing what he 89 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 4: can do kind of just outside of that pocket. That's 90 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 4: the matchup I think be watching the most because he 91 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: won it week two here last year. 92 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: And I think a couple of interesting storylines with both teams. Obviously, 93 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: the line secretary is a little banged up there without 94 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: Terry and Arnold, DJ Reid, DeVante Maddox will have to 95 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: see Brian Branch is going to be suspended for this game. 96 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: But then you look at the flip side of it, 97 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: and yes, they might get Mike Evans back. He's returned 98 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: to practice. He hasn't played since Week three. But Ambuka 99 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: doesn't look good after suffering a hamstring injury. No Chris krowdwin, 100 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: no Bucky Irving. To me like, it's not a matter 101 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: of Ifjury's gonna have his win, right Brad? And So 102 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: I think the best teams always have those depth players 103 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: that are able to step up in moments and make 104 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: key plays. And so to me, like, what is this 105 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: kind of depth that at Tampa Bay's wide receiver look 106 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: like versus the depth that Detroit secondary, Like who finds 107 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, which backup receiver, backup corner finds that one 108 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: play on a big third down or that key takeaway 109 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: or that big touchdown down the field get behind and 110 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: the defus to make the difference. I just can't help 111 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: but think back that, like maybe this game is a 112 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: little bit of depth is going. 113 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 4: To play a factory because everyone freaks out here right 114 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 4: now in this town and across our state of oh 115 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 4: my gosh, all the injuries in the secondary for good reason, 116 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 4: right Like, it didn't look great against Kansas City. There 117 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 4: were some miscues and some questionable penalties, but in Tampa 118 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 4: they're also saying, oh my gosh, what are we gonna 119 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 4: do without all of our weapons out there against Detroit's defense? 120 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 4: And so in football, yeah, like the the next man 121 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: up cliche, I think we'll rear its head this week. 122 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: I think it's a good point by you. 123 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 4: And getting a Lee McNeil back is so huge And 124 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to jump our conversation here, but sorry, 125 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 4: we've always been really good at looking at it, left 126 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 4: this homework having him there, right Like what they've had 127 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 4: to do on the flip side of what they had 128 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 4: to do last year, right, Like they had a healthy 129 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 4: secondary down the stretch, they had a depleted D line, 130 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 4: And now we're seeing the story flip a little bit 131 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 4: and getting McNeil back and seeing the emergence of a 132 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 4: few of those pieces around and just unleashing Aiden Hutchinson, 133 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 4: like he's had really good games against this Tampa front. Yeah, 134 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 4: which is not a lot of things that a lot 135 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 4: of pass rushers can say. So I think a McNeil 136 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 4: will help in that too. But the depth, man, I 137 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 4: think is a big point and then something to watch. 138 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: So huge to have a leam next to hutch too. 139 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a dynamic because as good as 140 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: you know Williams and Reader have been, I mean those 141 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: are more kind of run stuffers right first and second 142 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: down guys, terrific against the run. Give you a little 143 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: something against the past. But we talked about Alee McNeil. 144 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: That was three and a half sacks last year, he's 145 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: had five and a season he had forty five rushes. 146 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: The Lions were fourth in the NFL last year in 147 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: pressures from the internal component of their defensive line, and 148 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: so he just adds that element and now you can 149 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: with some of the stunts and some of the different 150 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: things that you can do. I mean, you know this 151 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: from your from your time of Brother Rice. When when 152 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: you know you can get on the edge and you 153 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: get some guys inside that can give you some juice 154 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: to it just changes the whole dynamic, doesn't it. 155 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 4: I went back and watched a little bit of the 156 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 4: Dallas game the first half this week when Aiden got 157 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 4: hurt last year, and we needed some clips to run 158 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: to say, hey, mc neil's coming back. Oh my gosh, 159 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 4: the way that he was ripping through that Cowboys line. 160 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 4: Two sacks in the first half. 161 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:07,119 Speaker 2: He was a beast. 162 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 4: But how do you stop Aleem McNeil and Aiden Hutchinson. 163 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: You have to make choices. You have to basically defer 164 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 4: a few options on your offense. You have to chip, 165 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 4: you have to really plan for both of those guys. 166 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 4: And then well, that frees up the rookie. I mean 167 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: that frees up so much and helps again your secondary 168 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 4: to have McNeil back. It's it's one or the other man, 169 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 4: Aiden or him that's gonna come up and make a play. 170 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 4: And I know that Aiden. We've talked to how many 171 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 4: weeks in a row here, like you've really stepped up 172 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 4: your game. I think you asked him last week like 173 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 4: is it possible, man, can you unlock another level? And 174 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 4: he looked at you nicely, but also like yeah, man, 175 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 4: that's why I do this. And now with a leam 176 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 4: next to him, I think that's that next level that 177 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: we know he's capable of doing and that he is too. 178 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 4: And again like McNeil's a beast. Sean Diane Hamilton, right 179 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: the linebackers coach said what he does at three hundred pounds, girl, 180 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 4: men should not be able to do. 181 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he does it and. 182 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: I look at it. 183 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: Al kadd you know Muhammad on the podcast a couple 184 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Let's not forget what he's contributed to 185 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: the other side too. So not only do you have 186 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, a leam and and hutch and what you're 187 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: gonna do, you know, double team there, but Alkane Muhama's 188 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: got four and a half sacks and six games. He's 189 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: contributed on the other side too. And now the depth 190 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: that you have a defensive tackle, I mean you've got 191 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: probably four legit starters from this league at defensive tackleing 192 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: you can run guys in. So look, we talked about 193 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: the secretary, right, and look, they're hurting and they're gonna 194 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: need guys to step up. But boy, the best way 195 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: to step up, in my opinion, is for that front 196 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: seven over. Suffocate them, don't let them have time. Give 197 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: those guys in the back end an extra half second 198 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: or second, you know, to guard somebody, and and you 199 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: know you do that, and I think you're gonna be 200 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: a pretty good shack. 201 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 4: Let's give a shout out to Alkuidee Mohammad, the younger, 202 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 4: his son, and let's try to get him a sideline pass. 203 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: And let me tell you why. 204 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 4: The game against Minnesota in week eighteen, we had scheduled 205 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 4: an interview post game in the event of a Lion's win, 206 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 4: and the Lions great media relations Staf said, you're getting 207 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 4: Alkuadem Mohamed after his big performance. He brings him up 208 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 4: and his son's standing there with him, who's super tall, right, yeah, 209 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 4: and he goes, can my son come in? 210 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: He can? He is it? I'm like, bring them in, man, 211 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 2: this is this is a huge deal. 212 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 4: You guys just won the division in a crazy scenario. 213 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 4: So he talked, he talks with us this is my dad. 214 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 4: I'm so proud of him. I'm standing there trying to cry, 215 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 4: like trying to hold back to. 216 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: Here's his best hype man. 217 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 4: It is so guess what happens the next time I 218 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 4: see them in Baltimore on the sidelines Monday night football? 219 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 4: Oh Alquade Muhammad had a big game and I saw 220 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 4: his son. I go, your dad's gonna have another big 221 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 4: one night. He goes, Man, from your mouth to God's ears, 222 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 4: Let's see it happen. 223 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: So let's have it happen. 224 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: We need to get him sideline pass the side passes 225 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: at least on Monday. 226 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: Come on, let's make it happen. 227 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: I love it. 228 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: One. 229 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: Maybe you look back at last week one trend that 230 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: that maybe raises a few eyebrows. Four wins for Detroit. 231 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: They've scored at least thirty four points, right well, obviously, 232 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: right tim they score thirty four points, are probably gonna 233 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: win seventeen and thirteen and their two losses. 234 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: It is it right is the. 235 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: Easiest to say that this team goes as the offense 236 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: goes because you don't want to say that because you' 237 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: they played a lot of complimentary football this year. But 238 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: in those two losses. Really to me, when I look 239 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: at the game, it's been more on the offense than 240 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: it's been on the defense. Is is easy to say 241 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: Detroit's got to score points and they've got to be 242 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: really good offensively to win this game one day. 243 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 4: I mean, what did Dan say to us at the 244 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 4: beginning of the week against Kansas City. What the Chiefs 245 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 4: do so well and maybe better than anybody in football 246 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: over really the last decade, is they win? 247 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: Now? 248 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 2: What does that mean? They just find a way? 249 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 4: And it sounds again such a simple answer, but they 250 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 4: did it against the Lions, and he said at halftime 251 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 4: of that game, we're three plays away from really blowing 252 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 4: this thing open. And what were those things? Aman Ross, 253 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 4: Saint Brown drop on fourth down? Never happens. A punt? 254 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: They punted in the fourth quarter too, Like when was 255 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 4: the last time this team coming back punted in the 256 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 4: fourth quarter? There were so many. I mean, even Scotty 257 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 4: Montgomery said it wrapping up this week, looking back, he goes, 258 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 4: we just didn't make those explosive plays in the critical moments. 259 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 4: And for fans on the outside that may go, no, 260 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 4: there's something deeper, there's something bigger. Sometimes you just lose 261 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 4: one on one battles, you lose a moment, and that's 262 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 4: the complete difference of a drive. It's the difference in 263 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 4: the game. And those stacked up for this team against 264 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 4: Kansas City. Now that's a long answer. Here's my one 265 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 4: thing of maybe what hurt them. Maybe Goff didn't have 266 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: as much time. Some of those drives started with Jamiir 267 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 4: Gibbs loss of three yards. Some of them ended with 268 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 4: a third down sack. Yeah, Taylor Decker, Yeah, it's if 269 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 4: you don't have your left tackle in there, that's been 270 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 4: your guy for a decade, you're gonna notice. And all 271 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 4: respect himanu all respected Dan Skipper for making his season 272 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 4: debut and stepping in and playing well. Not having Taylor 273 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 4: Decker against the Kansas City Chiefs, I think hurt this 274 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 4: team a lot. 275 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: Good news on that front. Taylor Decker didn't practice Wednesday, 276 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: but Dan Cambill said he's expected back at practice Thursday. 277 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: That's a good sign that maybe he's trending toward money. 278 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: Knowing he's got a week off after with the bye two, 279 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: so obviously that would be huge, not just in the 280 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: past game two, but the run game too. Taylor doesn't 281 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: get enough credit for what he does on the left 282 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: side there. 283 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 4: And they've said it right, they want to get David 284 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 4: Montgomery back more involved he took over in Cincinnati, but 285 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 4: it's really skewed a little more towards Jamiir Gibbs, which 286 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 4: I don't think is a huge surprise. He's younger, he's 287 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 4: one of the best backs in the league. But I 288 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 4: think for powered football what they want to do and 289 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 4: controlling the clock, getting David Montgomery more carries I think 290 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 4: will be critical, and having deck around the field will 291 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 4: help that. 292 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: We're running away from Vida Bay might be a good 293 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: idea too. All right, what do you guys have planned 294 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: before the game? Channel seven? 295 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: You know what? 296 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 4: Getting out with the people I think is a huge 297 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 4: part of what we're gonna do, because I mean there 298 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 4: were years tim right where getting one Monday night football 299 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 4: game would be a big deal, And so when our 300 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 4: team sees on the schedule that we got, oh my gosh, 301 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 4: we get to see a Monday night football game on 302 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 4: the road in Baltimore and bring that coverage to everybody 303 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 4: back in Detroit. And we went out there, we were live, 304 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 4: We had Joe Buck with us, sat down with Dan 305 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 4: Campbell sat down with them and Rossi and Brown hearing 306 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 4: what he's doing in the community. We're gonna do that 307 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 4: and amplified even more. We're gonna have our anchors out 308 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 4: in the middle of brush straight talking with the people 309 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 4: anchoring our coverage from out there. Alex Criscenti and I 310 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 4: are gonna be inside. We've got some special guests we 311 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 4: are working on lining up with us to join us 312 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 4: for the pregame coverage. 313 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: Teazer, it's like he's a professional test. 314 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 315 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 4: Well, to be honest with you, we haven't locked everything 316 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: in yet, so that's his team as I'm about to get. 317 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 4: But ESPN is always so good to us, and they're 318 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 4: bringing their whole crew. Scot Vanpelt announced last Monday night 319 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 4: they're bringing the Countdown crew through. 320 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: Oh nice. 321 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we seven o'clock to start, which seven o'clock 322 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 4: start of bedtime, baby, come on. So we're gonna do 323 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 4: it up big and I think it's a big way 324 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 4: for our station and for everybody involved in our team 325 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 4: behind the scenes, our producer Tony rox At, our camera 326 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 4: guys Chad and Brandon you see here all the time. 327 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 4: It's a great way for us to really put on 328 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 4: display what our team loves to do and showing off 329 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 4: this team in these uniforms. 330 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: By the way, well it'll be fun. The Blacks. 331 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: I love the Blacks and these helmets are so tight. 332 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 3: They're so tight. 333 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: Everyone will obviously be watching the lead up into that game, 334 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: which is look the two best teams in the NFC 335 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: going after it in Week six in a game that 336 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: could have playoff implications. Who knows down the line. So 337 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: it's a big one. You guys will have it all 338 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: covered at Channel seven PC. 339 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: Take the time, No big deal. 340 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: I did pick in the NFC Championship before the year, 341 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 4: Tampa against Detroit, with Detroit winning and beating Kansas City 342 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl. 343 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 2: So I'm just saying, tam okay, we'll check back in. 344 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: It all lining up. 345 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on man, appreciate you any time. 346 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the twenty in the Huddle podcast. Very 347 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: happy to welcome in Tate, Ratleige, rookie guard I doing. 348 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. So this is probably you know, 349 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: old hat for you because in college I thought this 350 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: was so unique. When I came to you approach you 351 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: asked you if you wanted to be on the podcast. 352 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, sure, I used to have a podcast. 353 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: It was called Mullets on the Mic. 354 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: Who did you do? 355 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: Was it with the Brett Thorson in college? And then 356 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: how did that start? 357 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 5: And it started off as a podcast called real Talk? Okay, 358 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 5: it was with the guy I played with. He asked 359 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 5: me to do it, and it kind of just started 360 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 5: as like, Okay, let's do this whatever. Then it's turned 361 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 5: out something I actually enjoyed doing, and then it kind 362 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 5: of grew traction, grew traction, and then we kind of 363 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 5: separated from that company doing that whatever, and then me 364 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 5: and Brett started Mullets on the Micay. It was completely 365 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 5: different podcast from the first one we had, and it 366 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 5: did pretty well. It just kind of once I moved on, 367 00:14:58,560 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 5: I was like, I don't want to be that rookie 368 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 5: or the bib, you know what I'm saying. 369 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 3: So we kind of separated from that. But no, it 370 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 3: was a good time. 371 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 5: We both had Mullets's was not as good as mine, 372 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 5: but yeah, we both had them. 373 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: So that was a pretty clever nickname, we thought. 374 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: For sure. 375 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: So it did pretty well. 376 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: Is it something maybe past your rookie year, because you know, 377 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: once you're in the League. You know, Saint Brown's got one. 378 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: A lot of different players do it. Is it something 379 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: that you would like to maybe get back to, and 380 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: if so, who would be the ideal podcast partner in 381 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: that locker room or offensive line room. 382 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 5: I think so, yeah, definitely, No, it's definitely something I 383 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 5: want to get into. I think media is kind of 384 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 5: what I want to do when I'm done playing football. 385 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 5: I feel like it's so I feel like I have 386 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 5: a good personality and it's like, oh no, I guess 387 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 5: I have the look that attracts people. Not in that way, 388 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 5: but you know what I'm saying, It's interesting. But no, 389 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 5: the office line room, I'd probably say. I feel like 390 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 5: Graham would be really interesting to have a podcast with. 391 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: I think you can go down some. 392 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 5: Crazy rabbit holes of conversation crazy, So I think that would. 393 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 3: Be that'd be hilarious. 394 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: You embraced the hair obviously, with the mullets on the mic. 395 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: We just joked about it. Have you find have you 396 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: found it interesting that it's kind of taken on this 397 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: own thing on social media? Sometimes there's some dedicated things, 398 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: some dedicated sites to it it, things like that. I mean, 399 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: how much do you do you love it? 400 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: Embrace it. 401 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 5: It started off as a complete joke. I did it 402 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 5: during COVID. My dad did it in the front yard, 403 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 5: and it was the worst haircut I've ever had in 404 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 5: my life. 405 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: And I was like, all right, we're just gonna see 406 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: where its goes COVID. 407 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 5: I'm not seeing anybody right now, like nobody has to 408 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 5: see me, so it doesn't really matter that much. 409 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: And then I got to college. 410 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 5: They had a six month awkward phase at least it 411 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 5: was that, and I just kind of wrote it out whatever, 412 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 5: and then got into college, kind of kept it, and 413 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 5: then it started actually gaining traction and became really my 414 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 5: brand almost in college. 415 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I kind of just stuck with it and 416 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 3: it just become my thing. 417 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: Now. 418 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: I think there's a financial opportunity here. 419 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, moving forward. 420 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw much on a head and shoulders commercial. 421 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 5: I was like, dang, I need him to hook me 422 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 5: up with. 423 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: No there you go, and yeah, I love the business 424 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: savvy of Yeah so young, Well, let's get to the 425 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: football part of it a little bit. You know, weeks 426 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: You've now had six weeks under your belt. It seems 427 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: like you're really settling in nicely, aren't. 428 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 5: You trying to of course there's learning cars every week. 429 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 5: I mean you can watch that game last week. I 430 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 5: had plenty of them against Chris Jalones, I mean, a 431 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 5: great player, and of course you see those every week. 432 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 5: Not quite to that stature, but you see good players 433 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 5: every week. And of course there's gonna be learning carves 434 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 5: the weekend and week out. And I think it's to me, 435 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 5: just how fast can I learn from that and not 436 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 5: let it happen again? 437 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 438 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: And how much did week one? Because obviously it was 439 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: well dog just some of the missus signs. It wasn't 440 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: just you, it was across that offensive line. Was that 441 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: almost a wake up call for that room? Was can 442 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: you look back at that and be like, Okay, that 443 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: was maybe a positive for this for me and for 444 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: this room moving forward, because we know we've got to 445 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: take care of the little details and some of the 446 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: things that communications. That's the thing. It's not like you 447 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: guys were getting beat physically. It was just some of 448 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: the mental things and how quickly did you guys move on? 449 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 5: So for me it was definitely a reality check. It 450 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 5: was Okay, maybe I don't know this offense like I 451 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 5: think I know this offense under pressure crowd noise. How 452 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 5: well do I know this offense to be able to 453 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 5: process things and see what we're doing without being necessarily 454 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 5: hear Graham what grahams saying. So for me it was Okay, 455 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 5: maybe I don't know this as well as I need to, 456 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 5: so kind of diving back in that playbook and like 457 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 5: core knowing get where we're working to without Graham. 458 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: Having to tell me kind of thing. Yeah. 459 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 5: So, and then the kills and everything. But it was 460 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 5: a reality check for me definitely. And then I think 461 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 5: the offensive line room there was definitely ah that wasn't 462 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 5: good enough attitude in the offensive line room and quick 463 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 5: to improve it. 464 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: And the leader that offensive line, Hank Fraley. Just how 465 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: much of a benefit has it been to have a 466 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: guy like that who played for a long time, who 467 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: was considered one of the best offensive line coaches in 468 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: the league to have him as your mentor how big 469 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: is that Ben stepping into this league? 470 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: I mean, it's awesome. 471 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 5: I learned so much about football day in and day 472 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 5: out with him and technique and little things like this, 473 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 5: what I can do to help myself in this situation, 474 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 5: in that situation. So I think it's with him being 475 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 5: the leader of the offensive line room. I mean, you 476 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 5: see how much respect these guys have for him. So 477 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 5: that shows me, before I even got here, knew much 478 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 5: about him, that he's doing something right for these guys 479 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 5: to respect him like that. So coming in here and 480 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 5: actually seeing it for myself, he's a players coach. I mean, 481 00:18:59,200 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 5: the guys love him. 482 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: I love him. I mean he does a great job. 483 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: How much easier has it been to adjust the NFL 484 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: playing between Graham and Penny Sewell. 485 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: It's it's made it a lot easier. 486 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna name names, but I've talked to some 487 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 5: of the guys that i've I've played with in the 488 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 5: past and talking about their rookie years, and they've all 489 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 5: told me how lucky I am to have those two 490 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 5: by my side. So definitely, with Pena it means like 491 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 5: our double teams, I think they have a chance to 492 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 5: be successful, even if I don't necessarily fit it right, 493 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 5: because I know he's coming full speed. 494 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: And has a lot of power behind him. 495 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then Graham, Graham's gonna get me on the 496 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 5: right page no matter what, So he does a really 497 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 5: good job at that. So I think playing next to 498 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 5: them has made life a lot easier for me. 499 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: It's important. 500 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up, because it's important to 501 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: realize for a young player sometimes it's not just the team, 502 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: but it's the players around them in this situation as well, 503 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: isn't it. 504 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 3: Oh definitely. 505 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 5: I mean, another one of my buddies called me and 506 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 5: they're like, you should be grateful. 507 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: I was like, what do you mean? 508 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 5: And they're like, I was like, I am, but like, 509 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 5: what do you what do you mean? They're like, the 510 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 5: situation you're in, the people you're playing with us, they 511 00:19:59,280 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 5: were like, you just. 512 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 3: Need to grateful for that. Now. 513 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 5: It's like, I mean, kind of put me in perspective 514 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 5: looking at some of my friends around the league who 515 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 5: maybe didn't have such a great first first year or whatever, 516 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 5: and then they grew eventually, and then yeah, kind of 517 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 5: seeing the situation I'm stepping into as a rookie and 518 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 5: next to the guys I'm playing with in the room, 519 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's awesome opportunity. 520 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 3: Let's talk about Tampa Bay a little bit. 521 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: You mentioned Chris Jones, obviously you know a dynamic player 522 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: in his own right. Vida Bay is another one that 523 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna see this week, just what you see on 524 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: film from him, and then what you see just overall 525 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: from this Tampa defense. To me, it looks like an 526 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: aggressive kind of attacking defense. What do you see on tape? 527 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 3: I mean watching film. 528 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 5: He's one of the most powerful humans I've ever seen, 529 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 5: and obviously I haven't really seen it yet. I'm seeing 530 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 5: it on film, So seeing it on film is impressive. 531 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 5: What he does to interior offensive line and the problems 532 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 5: he gives them in the run game, pass game. He 533 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 5: is a big difference maker in the game just by himself. 534 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 5: And of course they have great players around them. And 535 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 5: to their defense, they like you said, attack style, they 536 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 5: bring a lot of pressure. They're gonna pressure, They're gonna 537 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 5: make people get the ball out fast. So they do 538 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 5: a good job disguising things, trying to get people to 539 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 5: do something that they want them to do to bring 540 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 5: something else. So they do a good job of everything, 541 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 5: I think. And of course they're just a physical football team. 542 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 543 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: I think they blitzed the third most in the league, 544 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: almost thirty three percent. How nice they have a veteran 545 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: guy like Jared because it just seems like Jared is 546 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: playing at an MVP level and he's just on top 547 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: of it pre snap and gets you guys in the 548 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: right position to be successful. How valuable has he been 549 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: done you guys up. 550 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 5: Well, Jared says Jared. It goes no matter what we think, 551 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 5: what he sees ghosts because he always sees something we don't. 552 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 5: He's our shot collar and we know he knows where 553 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 5: that pressure is coming from. He knows when he's hot, 554 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 5: he knows when he needs to get the ball out. 555 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 5: And then again, I think he trusts us up front. 556 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 5: So I think that that helps a lot with him 557 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 5: being able to stand in there and you see some 558 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 5: of the throws he makes. He stand at enter and 559 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 5: takes a hit, and to see that, I think that 560 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 5: makes offense a lineman and respect their quarterback a lot 561 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 5: when they'll stand in there and. 562 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: Take a hit like that. 563 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: No, I know you've got an offensive meeting coming up 564 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: real quick. Let's let's have a little fun here with 565 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: the offensive line room. A little insight from the rookie 566 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: into the offensive line room. Who's strongest guy in that room? 567 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 5: Oh man, the strongest guy in the room. I'm probably 568 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 5: gonna have to say Christian. Christian's pretty strong. 569 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: Who's the most most athletic. I think we all maybe 570 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: know this one, but I'm curious to your perspective. 571 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: In space. I've never seen somebody move like that especially amazing. 572 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: It's impressive. 573 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: Who's the funniest guy in that room? 574 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 3: Best hair? Me? There? 575 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 5: You go? 576 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was easy. 577 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,239 Speaker 1: Who would you not want to date your daughter in 578 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: that room? 579 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: Christian? 580 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: We'll just leave that one there, all right. 581 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: How much you're looking forward to those on Monday night 582 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: football a national stage? The Bucks are five and one, 583 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: It's it's the blackout. I mean, what is it like 584 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: playing at Ford Field? And how much you excited for 585 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: that opportunity to play really good football team on a 586 00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: national stage. 587 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 5: Electric Every time we played there, it's been awesome. That 588 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 5: atmospher is it's amazing. So but coming out in these uniforms, 589 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 5: got to play good at them. So that's that's kind 590 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 5: of the thing with me. If you're gonna look good, 591 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 5: you gotta play good. So I'm looking forward to playing 592 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 5: a really good team on primetime Monday night football. 593 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 3: It's gonna be exciting. I go get them. 594 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: Have fun. 595 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: Appreciation. 596 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the toy m Huddle Podcast presented by Microsoft. 597 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: I am very happy, Welcome to Scott Smith. He does 598 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: a great job with the Buccaneers, the senior writer and 599 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: editor there. Scott, thanks you to take the time. I 600 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 601 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 6: Great to do it again. It's like we it's like 602 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 6: every year now at this. 603 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: You know, I was just gonna say, these are two 604 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: teams that are very familiar with each other now having 605 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: this is gonna be the fourth matchup in the last 606 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: three years. And you know, when Scott, I was looking 607 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: at the statistics I tweet out every week kind of 608 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: the rankings comparison between the two teams, and I can't 609 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: remember a time where I was like, Wow, this is 610 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: such two teams that are evenly matched, really offensively defensively. 611 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: When that's the case, what's the biggest difference going to 612 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: become Monday to deciding who wins or loses this game 613 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: in your opinion? 614 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 6: Well, I'm gonna sound an extremely uncreative when I say this, 615 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 6: but turnovers definitely make a difference. Do these two teams 616 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 6: have combined to turn the ball over just five times 617 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 6: in twelve combined games, and that's the one game where 618 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 6: we did turn the ball over we lost, and the 619 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 6: other five games we didn't turn the ball over once 620 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 6: and it's Baker Mayfield is doing such a good job 621 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 6: protecting the football, keeping the ball out of harm's way 622 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 6: and not having a lot of turnover worthy throws, especially 623 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 6: since early in the season. So if either team breaks 624 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 6: through in that regard, maybe Aiden Hutchinson goes crazy against 625 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 6: this again like he did last week and gets a 626 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 6: stripsack or something, I mean last year, that could really 627 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 6: turn the game. Because you're right, these are two evenly 628 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 6: matched teams that can go toe to toe on the scoreboard, 629 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 6: and this could be like a lot of our games 630 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 6: have been a matter of which offense has the ball last. 631 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: Now we certainly, as Desroit Lions fans, don't want Baker 632 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: Mayfield to have the ball last, given what's happened this 633 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: year with him and Scott. When you look back to 634 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: the start of two thousand and three, Jared Golf and 635 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield number one and number two in touchdown passes 636 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: touchdown yards. You look at this year, Jared's number one 637 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: in touchdowns, number two in passer rating Baker's I think 638 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: third and touchdowns that they're both having terrific MVP caliber seasons. 639 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: How great of a matchup is this just between the 640 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks obviously not on the field together, but it's 641 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: the most important position in football in determining wins and 642 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: losses how well your quarterback plays. These are two quarterbacks 643 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: that are playing really, really well. How fun of a 644 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: matchup is this gonna be Monday Night between those two guys. 645 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 6: Specifically, it's a lot of fun because, like you said, 646 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 6: most teams are not going to go very far unless 647 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 6: they have a very good quarterback, right, And both of 648 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 6: these teams got their quarterbacks in kind of their franchise 649 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 6: type quarterbacks and not the usual way. You know, a 650 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 6: lot of people thought, I'm sure that wasn't the case 651 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 6: on your team's side, with a lot of people thought 652 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 6: golf was just just to throw in and that Matt 653 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 6: Stafford trade or Mayfield had to bounce around and you know, 654 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 6: had the bad, the unsatisfying year in Carolina. Uh when 655 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 6: we signed him as a one year deal, any team 656 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 6: could have had him one year deal, not that much. 657 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 6: And now both of those guys were performing like two 658 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 6: of the best and certainly two of the most productive 659 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 6: quarterbacks in the NFL. So just put them both on 660 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 6: the same stage. Two former first overall picks who kind 661 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 6: of had to find a new home before really hitting 662 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 6: their stride. It's a fantastic story. And yeah, how the 663 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 6: two of those guys played is going to be what 664 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 6: this game comes down to. 665 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: You know, injuries are obviously going to be a big 666 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: component of this this game heading in, you guys are 667 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: banged up offensively, you know, wide receiver, and Buka and 668 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,239 Speaker 1: Godwin don't know if they'll play. Bucky Irving probably not 669 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: gonna play. You do get Mike Evans back at practice 670 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: this week. We'll have to see how that goes, but 671 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: that's obviously huge. Detroit is decimated at the cornerback position, 672 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: so and in the secondary, Brian Branch is gonna have 673 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: to serve that suspension one of their best defensive players. 674 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: So I just update midweek where you guys the injury 675 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: wise and maybe some concerns or maybe some good news 676 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: on your end. 677 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a little bit of both. We haven't had 678 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 6: an official injury report come out yet, but we did 679 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 6: have practice today and Coach Bowles's media session afterwards, and 680 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 6: Mike Evans and our two corners that missed the last games, 681 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 6: I'm McCollum and Benjamin Morrison are all practiced today. Mike 682 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 6: was a little bit limited, but the corners were full go. 683 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 6: And even I don't think they have fully ruled out 684 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 6: the possibility of a Mecca Abuka coming back yet. It's 685 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 6: a long shot, probably, But coach did say at the 686 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 6: beginning of the week that he does not expect to 687 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 6: see Bucky Irving and Chris Guy went out there on 688 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 6: the practice field, So if they're not practicing, they're not 689 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 6: going to play. So we don't expect to get those 690 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 6: two guys back. But Mike Evans has a shot. He's 691 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 6: not a sure thing yet. He was limited today and 692 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 6: we have to see how it goes this week, but 693 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 6: that would be obviously a big boost us to get 694 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 6: him back. 695 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: You know. 696 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: If not, it's good, it's really gonna come down. In 697 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: my opinion, I think a big matchup is going to 698 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: be the depth the Lions have in the secondary and 699 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 1: the depth that you know Tampa Bay has, you know, 700 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position. Maybe just give Lions fans 701 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: a little bit of a scouting report on that depth 702 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: at wide receiver that's really stepped up in the last 703 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: few weeks and allowed Tampa Bay to continue rolling even 704 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: with some of the injuries that they've dealt with. 705 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, when a Mecca went down before the start of 706 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 6: the second half, we were down our top four I 707 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 6: mean top four receivers Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Jaal McMillan 708 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 6: who's on injured reserve right now, and then a Mecca 709 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 6: Buca and that Baker Mayfield was able to continue moving 710 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 6: the ball. I mean we're still ranked I think sixth 711 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 6: or eighth in passing yards. He's still moving the ball 712 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 6: because some of these guys really stepped up. And the 713 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 6: names you need to be familiar with. You probably have heard. 714 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 6: Your fans have probably heard of Sterling Shepherd. He had 715 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 6: a pretty nice long career with the Giants. He's been 716 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 6: rejuvenated since coming here and hooking back up with his 717 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 6: college teammate Baker Mayfield, and those two have a really 718 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 6: good connection. Shepherd tends to step up and make a 719 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 6: couple of big plays in big moments, like he did 720 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 6: on our final touchdown game clinch I mean white field 721 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 6: goal game clinching drive against the forty nine ers. And 722 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 6: then you got the two young guys, Cam Johnson and 723 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 6: Tees Johnson. Cam Johnson had really only been returning kicks 724 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 6: and punts for us before. He didn't have a catch 725 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 6: in his NFL career before this past week. But he's 726 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 6: a guy that a lot of people don't know anything about. 727 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 6: He's the first player in the history of the NFL 728 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 6: to come from Barton College in North Carolina, and he's 729 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 6: just he's been a hit ever since he's got here. 730 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 6: People want to say he's small. He's not small. He's 731 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 6: short for an NFL receiver, but he's really rocked up 732 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 6: and he doesn't really look that small out there in 733 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 6: the field, and he's tough, and he was really a 734 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 6: surprise in this last game making plays over the middle 735 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 6: of the field, kind of filling the kind of role 736 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 6: that Mike Evans would have for you and the crutch 737 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 6: time at the end of that game. And then Tedes 738 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 6: Johnson was a guy we were really excited to get. 739 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 6: Felt he was a steal in the seventh round, had 740 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 6: a really productive career in Oregon, and it's just an 741 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 6: all round good receiver. But he is really small. He's 742 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 6: when somebody mentioned that the podium that asked a question 743 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 6: saying one hundred and fifty pounds, the coach is like, 744 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 6: you're being generous by calling him one hundred fifty pounds. 745 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 6: This is this is a little guy and that's why 746 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 6: he was available in the seventh round. But he's fast 747 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 6: and he's really got his game is really polished for 748 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 6: a Brookie. In this last game, on his forty five 749 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 6: yard touchdown, he was supposed to run a route across 750 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 6: the field, like a deep over maybe, but he could 751 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 6: see that if he did that, he would be running 752 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 6: right to where the safety was stationed, and that the 753 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 6: safety hadn't really gotten a lot of depth. So he 754 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 6: on the fly adjusted that to a seam route and 755 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 6: could see what was working and threw up his hand 756 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 6: and Baker saw him, and Baker says, for rookie to 757 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 6: have the wherewithal to make that adjustment in the middle 758 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 6: of a route is something you don't normally see. So 759 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 6: a lot of these guys are going to have probably 760 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 6: some pretty interesting careers, but they're just getting started. 761 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just getting start. But they're gonna play big 762 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: roles Monday, as will the depth in Detroit secondary and 763 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: that'll be, you know, obviously a key matchup to watch, 764 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: all right, last one for Scott in your opinion, what's 765 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: the big guests matchup? What does what does Tampa Bay 766 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: have to do to come to Detroit escape with win 767 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: and improve to six and one and really be in 768 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: control of their destiny in the NFC. 769 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 6: Oh man, there's so many good ones. I mean, wow, 770 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 6: I should have been ready for this question. The obvious 771 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 6: one would be Aiden Hutchinson against either of our tackles, 772 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 6: because Aiden Hudginson against Tristan Wurfs would be two of 773 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 6: the best players in the NFL. Going at it. It looked 774 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 6: to me on next year like he rushes from both sides, right, Yeah, 775 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 6: he got it equally, so that means he's also gonna 776 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 6: be rushing. And it's Charlie Heck. Last year when we played, y'all, 777 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 6: we were playing with a backup right tackle because Luke 778 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 6: Eticky was out, and that's the case again this year. 779 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 6: So Tryla the Heck's been playing good, don't get me wrong, 780 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 6: but you're on your backup now. And then Aiden Hutchinson 781 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 6: really ate our backup alive last year four point five sacks. 782 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 6: So that's a good one. I think you're The Detroit 783 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 6: Lions offense is so good at staying balanced, and with 784 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 6: those two running backs there, you can have a fresh 785 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 6: one in the game at all times. They both can 786 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 6: make big plays. You run the ball so well in 787 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 6: the red zone, which has been a bit of a 788 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 6: problem for us. If you want to look at advantage, 789 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 6: look at your red zone offensive members against our red 790 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 6: zone defense numbers, and that's a good area for the Lions. 791 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 6: So that would be big. So our run defense, on 792 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 6: the other hand, has been very good. And I did 793 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 6: a really good job this past week of limiting the 794 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,479 Speaker 6: yards up for the catch by Christian McCaffrey. So if 795 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 6: we can do that again against those two guys, that 796 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 6: would be big. 797 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: Just a note for your Tampa Bay Buccaneers fans here, 798 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: Hutches going for a fifth straight game with a sack 799 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: and a fourth straight game with a force fumble. So 800 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: he's been playing at elite level and his ears probably 801 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: perk up a little bit when he hears backup tackle. 802 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I was looking at didn't he have seven 803 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 6: and a half sacks in just five games last year? 804 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 6: He did, so if you had him together in his 805 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 6: last eleven games, he has thirteen and a half sacks. 806 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 3: He does. 807 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 6: That's ridiculous, that's true. 808 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Scott, I think he's playing better than he 809 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: was at that point last year. I mean, he just 810 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: he feels good, he looks good, and he's making and impact. 811 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: And look, Detroit's gonna need those guys because we've talked 812 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: about the injuries and the secondary Well, how do you 813 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: counter that. You have your front seven guys and your 814 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: defensive line step up for those guys. And so that'll 815 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,959 Speaker 1: be what Detroit's looking for. But it should be a 816 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: great matchup. I'm excited for this one Monday night football 817 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: at Ford Field. It's gonna be crazy and you've got 818 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: a really good team coming in that's playing some really 819 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: good football. I'm sure you've enjoyed covering them over the 820 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: first six games. They've looked great. I will be sure 821 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: to stop by and say hello. Safe travels up, and 822 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: I can't wait for Monday. 823 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 6: All right, thanks great, talking to you again