Speaker 1: Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: Good Morning, This is Laura. Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast.
Speaker 2: Today's episode is going to be a longer one part
Speaker 2: of the series where I interview fascinating people about how
Speaker 2: they take their days from great to awesome and any
Speaker 2: advice they have for the rest of us. So today
Speaker 2: I'm delighted to welcome Anna Dearman Cornick to the show.
Speaker 2: Anna is the host of the It's About Time podcast
Speaker 2: and author of the book Time Management Essential. So Anna,
Speaker 2: thanks for being here.
Speaker 3: Hi, Laura, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm excited to talk all things time management
Speaker 2: with you, a topic we both enjoy. Why don't you
Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about yourself, your life, and
Speaker 2: your career.
Speaker 3: Sure. So, I'm a time management coach, host of It's
Speaker 3: About Time, as you mentioned, author of Time Management Essentials,
Speaker 3: but in addition to really diving into all things time management,
Speaker 3: also a mom of two little girls, six and four,
Speaker 3: and we live with my husband, Scott in South Louisiana.
Speaker 3: And so when I'm not serving clients who are based
Speaker 3: all over the world or leading coaching sessions in the
Speaker 3: It's About Time academy, you can find me chasing them around,
Speaker 3: taking them to the pool, and balancing my version of
Speaker 3: mom life and work life.
Speaker 1: Excellent.
Speaker 2: And so how did you wind up in this area?
Speaker 2: Like what drew you to the topic of time management?
Speaker 3: So what's so interesting is my very first job right
Speaker 3: out of college was as a scheduler to a United
Speaker 3: States congressman, and so very early on I was thrust
Speaker 3: into trying to figure out time management for myself while
Speaker 3: also managing one of the most hectic schedules in the
Speaker 3: entire country. And so I learned so much in that role,
Speaker 3: not only about surviving as a young professional, but also
Speaker 3: about how to make the most of your time, how
Speaker 3: to navigate curveballs that happened during your day, how to prioritize,
Speaker 3: and that translated really well into a what then became
Speaker 3: a ten year career in crisis communications and government affairs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's talk.
Speaker 2: About being a congressional scheduler, because I think that you know,
Speaker 2: many of us don't necessarily think of time as a
Speaker 2: resource that has to be managed. But when you have
Speaker 2: one person whose time is you know, needs to be
Speaker 2: allocated to different things, to keeping constituents happy, to doing
Speaker 2: their various you know, law making responsibilities and whatever public
Speaker 2: facing life they want to do as well as you know,
Speaker 2: hopefully they also get to sleep on occasion, and they
Speaker 2: have to travel back and forth. So I wonder how
Speaker 2: you think about that, Like what are the rules for
Speaker 2: a congress person's schedule, and like how you started thinking
Speaker 2: about that and managing that.
Speaker 3: Right so it you know, one thing that you have
Speaker 3: to keep in mind is that, of course it's going
Speaker 3: to be different based on the individual, their preferences, and
Speaker 3: understanding what energizes them and what drains them to make
Speaker 3: sure that we're creating a flow for not just their day,
Speaker 3: but their entire week that enables them to hit all
Speaker 3: of those obligations. And there are so many competing obligations,
Speaker 3: like you said, from running the office to meeting with
Speaker 3: other policymakers and lobbyists to meeting with constituents, not to
Speaker 3: mention things like fundraising calls and receptions and dinner invitations
Speaker 3: and travel, and it's all over the place. And so
Speaker 3: the way that we tended to think about it was
Speaker 3: to prioritize those meetings where his impact would go the
Speaker 3: furthest because there's only one of him Unfortunately, there was
Speaker 3: a number of people on our staff who were incredibly
Speaker 3: qualified and intelligent and able to take meetings on his behalf,
Speaker 3: and so you really had to know.
Speaker 1: Where where do we really.
Speaker 3: Have to have the congressman and where can someone stand
Speaker 3: in and represent him on his behalf?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder, did you have to figure out sort
Speaker 2: of like buffers between things, or I mean space for
Speaker 2: the curve, but like what sort of a space would
Speaker 2: you leave available for the curve balls that came.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Laura, I learned the biggest lesson my
Speaker 3: very first week on the job. I put together what
Speaker 3: I thought was the most amazing, meticulous, perfect schedule for
Speaker 3: his week. And I remember that first Monday morning, our
Speaker 3: chief of staff, this big guy named Clayton, walked over
Speaker 3: to my desk and he said, Anna, we have a problem,
Speaker 3: and my heart sank, and he pointed out that despite
Speaker 3: the fact that we fit every constituent request into the week,
Speaker 3: there were exactly zero spaces available for the boss to
Speaker 3: take a bathroom break.
Speaker 1: That wasn't gonna happen.
Speaker 3: No, And so I learned the difference between creating a
Speaker 3: schedule that's a perfect on paper and creating a schedule
Speaker 3: that actually reflects our humanity. And I'm so glad I
Speaker 3: learned that lesson early on, because then it did become Okay,
Speaker 3: let's make sure that we have buffer time for him,
Speaker 3: that we're not only creating space for him to be human,
Speaker 3: but also to make sure that he has connection moments
Speaker 3: with his family. He had two young girls at the
Speaker 3: time who lived back home in New Orleans, and it's
Speaker 3: really important to have that time when when you're away.
Speaker 3: And so I really learned the importance of allocating even
Speaker 3: more transition time from point A to point B than
Speaker 3: necessary in order to make sure that we had a
Speaker 3: realistic amount of space to accomplish what we needed to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what were your sort of thoughts on new
Speaker 2: things coming up and upsetting the.
Speaker 1: Schedule that exists? Like would was the goal not to.
Speaker 2: Move stuff or is like stuff have to rise over
Speaker 2: a certain bar to move what is already there. I'm
Speaker 2: curious about the cancellation policy for a congressman as well.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 3: It was very much an depends. So on one hand,
Speaker 3: we aimed to lock the calendar about two weeks in advance,
Speaker 3: where no new meetings were added unless it was absolutely necessary,
Speaker 3: but we could lock the calendar and the day would
Speaker 3: be flowing smoothly, and then the vote bells would go off.
Speaker 3: So Laura on Capitol Hill, any time that the members
Speaker 3: are being called to the floor to vote, there are
Speaker 3: these bells that ring, and it sounds kind of like
Speaker 3: a school bell. And whenever I hear this bell, now
Speaker 3: just out and about, I get a little bit of
Speaker 3: PTSD because I remember that anytime those vote bells would
Speaker 3: go off unexpectedly, because we had noticed most of the time,
Speaker 3: but when they went off unexpectedly, I knew that I
Speaker 3: was going to have to rearrange, drop everything, and rearrange
Speaker 3: the entire calendar, because that's what they're there for.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, all right, We're going to take one quick ad
Speaker 2: break and then we'll be back with more from Anna
Speaker 2: Dearman Cornick. Well, I am back talking with Anna Dearman Kornick,
Speaker 2: who is a time management expert host of the It's
Speaker 2: About Time podcast. We've been chatting about her first job
Speaker 2: as a congressional scheduler and what it's like to schedule
Speaker 2: somebody who's every minute needs to be spelled out. But
Speaker 2: let's talk a little bit about your own approach to
Speaker 2: time management. Now, I know you've said you're very personality
Speaker 2: driven when you think about time management.
Speaker 1: What does that mean to you?
Speaker 3: So? I have always been, Laura a huge fan of
Speaker 3: personality quizzes. I mean you take me back to the
Speaker 3: high school, middle school teen beat magazine where you figure
Speaker 3: out your lit gloss flavor based on your favorite pasta shape,
Speaker 3: any of those silly quizzes like that. I love, And
Speaker 3: as I got older, I really became interested in personality
Speaker 3: theory assessments like the Myers Briggs Type Indicator. Eventually, I,
Speaker 3: on a whim, decided to become a certified Myers Brinks practitioner.
Speaker 3: Remember in that training weekend, someone asking me, how do
Speaker 3: you plan to use the Myers Briggs Everyone else there
Speaker 3: was either a school counselor, or they were a seasoned coach,
Speaker 3: or they worked in human resources, and I remember saying,
Speaker 3: I want to use personality to help women manage their
Speaker 3: time without the overwhelm. And at the time this was
Speaker 3: years ago, I didn't know what that would look like,
Speaker 3: but gradually it came into view. You know, we all
Speaker 3: have very unique ways of thinking of making decisions. Our
Speaker 3: approach to closure versus open endedness, and all of those
Speaker 3: little pieces of who we are have to be considered
Speaker 3: when we create our approach to time management. You know,
Speaker 3: one of the biggest mistakes that we make is when
Speaker 3: we decide that I'm ready to get my time management
Speaker 3: in order, is that we look at what other people
Speaker 3: are doing. And inspiration is great. You can take so
Speaker 3: much from what other people are doing, right, That's the
Speaker 3: entire reason why I started my podcast. But when we
Speaker 3: try and copy and paste what's working well for someone
Speaker 3: else and then it doesn't work for us, we can
Speaker 3: feel like a failure when in reality that method that
Speaker 3: we were copying and pasting just might not have been
Speaker 3: a fit for who we are at our core.
Speaker 2: And I think I read somewhere, maybe on your website,
Speaker 2: you are an E NTJ. I am, so I'm curious
Speaker 2: how that affects you personally as you manage your time, Like,
Speaker 2: what does that mean for you that would be different
Speaker 2: from somebody else?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Oh that's so fun. So yes, I in Myers Briggs,
Speaker 3: I am an E N TJ. And you may be thinking, Okay,
Speaker 3: what do those letters mean? And without going too too
Speaker 3: far into it, the Myers Briggs is basically based on
Speaker 3: two on four pairs of personality preferences, and so that
Speaker 3: E is either E for extroverted or I for introverted,
Speaker 3: that INN is either in for intuition, So really more
Speaker 3: an abstract thinker versus sensing, more of a concrete, black
Speaker 3: and white thinker. And then that T is for thinking,
Speaker 3: So that's the type that's what drives our decision making,
Speaker 3: really more logic based versus an F which is more
Speaker 3: feeling and harmony based. And then JAY which stands for judging,
Speaker 3: which is more about closure and P perceiving, which is
Speaker 3: more about being open ended. And so as an E INTJ,
Speaker 3: I am someone who needs social interaction scheduled into my
Speaker 3: week or else I start to get a little crazy.
Speaker 3: So that means I need to be intentional about creating
Speaker 3: social opportunities for recharge, that I may prefer to mind
Speaker 3: map my week out rather than have a set checklist,
Speaker 3: That my decisions about how I make my time might
Speaker 3: tend to be a little bit more on the logical side,
Speaker 3: So I need to pay special attention to be sure
Speaker 3: that I'm incorporating harmony within my family. How do we
Speaker 3: keep everyone you know happy and moving forward together? And
Speaker 3: then with that JAY. It means I really like to
Speaker 3: finish projects. I really like to finish things and hit
Speaker 3: that point of completion, and so making sure that my
Speaker 3: week is structured so that I am hitting those endpoints
Speaker 3: and that all of those things are based on me
Speaker 3: and the way that I think, and so just pulling
Speaker 3: a time management method off of the shelf, it's not
Speaker 3: going to work for me perfectly. And so that's where
Speaker 3: so much trial and error comes into play to figure out, Okay,
Speaker 3: based on who I am and how I think, what
Speaker 3: methods are going to work best for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm supposed to be an I INTJ.
Speaker 2: So I guess we have some similar overlaps.
Speaker 3: Okay, So Laura, the E NTJ is the evil dictator
Speaker 3: and the I n TJ is the mad scientist. So
Speaker 3: we could take over the world together.
Speaker 2: Probably, although I have to say, you know, I think
Speaker 2: being a time management person having the JAY is pretty critical.
Speaker 2: And you know, I try out to be judging if
Speaker 2: you were of people who are different, but you know,
Speaker 2: like it's always thinking that something else will be a possibility.
Speaker 2: It's not work when it comes to managing your time.
Speaker 2: So you know, but that's a whole whole separate topic.
Speaker 2: So I'm curious about your daily life. Are there any
Speaker 2: routines that make you more productive?
Speaker 3: Oh? My goodness, of course, I you know, it's funny.
Speaker 3: I love routine. But I also cannot be too bound
Speaker 3: by a routine, or else I'll start to rebel. So
Speaker 3: that's something that I know about myself. I cannot be
Speaker 3: too rigid. I'd say that having two young children four
Speaker 3: and six year old, routines in the morning are absolutely
Speaker 3: critical for us, because not only do those routines keep
Speaker 3: me in line, but they keep my kids in a
Speaker 3: space where it's predictable for them in a healthy way.
Speaker 3: And so rather than having set routines where it's step one,
Speaker 3: we do this step two.
Speaker 1: We do this.
Speaker 3: We think of the morning in milestones, where we want
Speaker 3: to be in certain parts of our home, doing certain
Speaker 3: activities at certain times, and what happens in between can
Speaker 3: can flex, it can go crazy. We can have a
Speaker 3: dance party, we can color whatever. But as long as
Speaker 3: we are sitting down at the kitchen table at seven
Speaker 3: thirty having breakfast, we know that we'll be on track.
Speaker 3: And I tend to approach my evening in the same
Speaker 3: way again with milestones. Anything can happen in between, but
Speaker 3: as long as we are turning the bathwater knob on
Speaker 3: at six thirty, then we know that the rest of
Speaker 3: the evening is going to go smoothly.
Speaker 2: Do you have any morning routines that are for you
Speaker 2: that are separate from caregiving for the rest of your family?
Speaker 3: I do, you know, and it's evolved over the years,
Speaker 3: but right now out my most important morning routine involves
Speaker 3: waking up early and getting out the door to work out.
Speaker 3: I have to based on just the day, the only
Speaker 3: time to really get in a good workout is going
Speaker 3: to be early in the morning, and so that looks
Speaker 3: like an evening routine to set me up for success.
Speaker 3: Setting out the workout clothes in the evenings, setting out
Speaker 3: the bcaa's and the creatine powder on the kitchen counter
Speaker 3: so that I can scoop, scoop and go. Having all
Speaker 3: of that makes the morning run so much easier, because
Speaker 3: the morning routine looks like getting out of bed, talking
Speaker 3: myself into putting in the workout clothes, putting on the
Speaker 3: workout clothes before I can convince myself to go back
Speaker 3: to bed, meeting a good friend at the gym, We've
Speaker 3: become accountability partners because we knew that without that accountability,
Speaker 3: we would struggle. Meeting each other at the gym, high fiving,
Speaker 3: going our separate ways, and then heading home, and on
Speaker 3: that ride home, that's typically when I listen to podcasts.
Speaker 3: That's when I really start to get my mind right
Speaker 3: for the day. But the success of our mornings are
Speaker 3: really determined by the consistency of my weekly planning sessions. Well,
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about that, your weekly planning sessions
Speaker 3: in just a minute.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm back talking with Anna Darman Cornick about her life,
Speaker 2: her routines, and her time management advice for everyone else.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about weekly planning. And then I also
Speaker 2: want to I don't know if this happens on Sunday
Speaker 2: or not, but I saw you had a big thing
Speaker 2: about what you do on Sunday to prepare for the
Speaker 2: upcoming weeks. So maybe you can talk about both of
Speaker 2: those as we think of life in terms of weeks,
Speaker 2: which is a big theme for those of us here
Speaker 2: before breakfast.
Speaker 3: Definitely, So I absolutely believe that the success of your
Speaker 3: week is based on the quality and the consistency of
Speaker 3: your weekly planning. You know, a coach is not going
Speaker 3: to head into an important game without some type of
Speaker 3: a game plan, a playbook, and getting a bird's eye
Speaker 3: view of what's ahead. And so my weekly planning sessions,
Speaker 3: i'd say typically they do happen on Sundays, but also
Speaker 3: part of the weekly planning session is identifying, Hey, what's
Speaker 3: happening next weekend? When am I going to do my
Speaker 3: next one? Oh, makes sense to do it on Saturday
Speaker 3: morning because we're going to be out of the house
Speaker 3: all day on Sunday, and really kind of giving myself
Speaker 3: that flexibility in when it happens. Another thing is that
Speaker 3: a lot of times when we picture weekly planning sessions,
Speaker 3: we kind of say, okay, so you're probably sitting down
Speaker 3: and you're drinking coffee for thirty minutes, and you have
Speaker 3: this set agenda. And sure sometimes it looks like that,
Speaker 3: but most of the time it doesn't. Most of the
Speaker 3: time it's fragmented over the course of a Sunday. But
Speaker 3: as long as I get a look at my week
Speaker 3: ahead and understand what's this week going to feel like?
Speaker 3: Is this week going to feel is it going to
Speaker 3: feel a little bit more relaxed and based on how
Speaker 3: the week's going to feel, how do I want to
Speaker 3: structure my time in order to stay on track with
Speaker 3: my goals. One of the most important things incorporated into
Speaker 3: my weekly planning session is adding in drive time. Now,
Speaker 3: we don't necessarily spend a ton of time in the car.
Speaker 3: We live in a relatively small town type of area,
Speaker 3: but it's very clear which parent, my husband, Scott or
Speaker 3: I is picking up the girls from camp on which day,
Speaker 3: and so we have all of that drive time in
Speaker 3: the calendar. Our calendar is a huge communication tool for us.
Speaker 3: And then creating drive time slots for even just home
Speaker 3: to Jim Jim to home, because I know that if
Speaker 3: I don't have drive time in my calendar, I will
Speaker 3: push all the way up until the last minute, and
Speaker 3: then of course get there late because I haven't accounted
Speaker 3: for parking and then walking in the door and then
Speaker 3: finding the room where I'm going, And so transition time
Speaker 3: is huge. Once we know what the week's going to
Speaker 3: feel like, we shift into meal planning mode. Now, my
Speaker 3: husband Scott, he actually handles meal planning and grocery shopping
Speaker 3: at our home. It's this awesome partnership that we have,
Speaker 3: and so based on what the week looks like, will
Speaker 3: decide what the menu looks like. He'll take the girls
Speaker 3: with a grocery list to the grocery store, and then
Speaker 3: I check the weather. I check the weather, and I
Speaker 3: actually pull clothes for the entire week for both of
Speaker 3: my girls. Now, when I tell you, Laura, I am
Speaker 3: not a morning person. The fact that I wake up
Speaker 3: and go to the gym at five fifteen still shocks
Speaker 3: me sometimes. And so having a check on the weather
Speaker 3: and their clothes for the week pulled out on Sundays
Speaker 3: and hanging on little hooks on their back on their
Speaker 3: closet door, it makes a huge difference in how smooth
Speaker 3: our mornings go.
Speaker 1: What do you do if the kid doesn't want to
Speaker 1: wear what you chose.
Speaker 3: So here's the funny thing is that my oldest wears
Speaker 3: school uniforms. Oh okay, well that makes the whole thing right,
Speaker 3: So she wears school uniforms, and then my youngest I
Speaker 3: don't think she's really caught onto.
Speaker 1: The because I caught on to the idea that there
Speaker 1: are options.
Speaker 3: So, you know what, whenever, whenever she does figure that out,
Speaker 3: it'll probably be about time for her to start uniforms. Anyway,
Speaker 3: So I'm feeling good about it, but I know that
Speaker 3: I'm going to have to pivot like that's that's a
Speaker 3: part of the way that we manage our time too.
Speaker 3: It's not set it and forget it. We have to
Speaker 3: adjust as our kids get older, as life evolves.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Well, when you're doing this weekly planning session, are
Speaker 2: you planning with your husband? Then you mentioned that you know,
Speaker 2: you guys move into meal planning, but it sounded like
Speaker 2: there was a we involved there, So I'm curious logistically
Speaker 2: what that looks like.
Speaker 3: Doesn't that sound lovely imagining sitting with him at the
Speaker 3: table and planning our week.
Speaker 2: So no that, and no one's throwing anything at you
Speaker 2: or asking for anything, because I know that the six
Speaker 2: year old and three year old will obviously give you
Speaker 2: guys completelyway to do this right exactly.
Speaker 1: No, it's really it's.
Speaker 3: Just me and and part of the weekly planning session
Speaker 3: might happen with me standing up with my computer at
Speaker 3: the kitchen island. Part of it might happen at the
Speaker 3: kitchen table. And this when I say we move into
Speaker 3: meal planning, it goes like this, Hey, Scott, I have
Speaker 3: a meeting late on Tuesday, so factor that into meal
Speaker 3: planning for the week.
Speaker 1: Boom, that's it. Yeah, boom, that's it. Okay, got it.
Speaker 2: Are there any other sort of time management strategies that
Speaker 2: you find yourself using frequently in your daily life?
Speaker 3: Oh? I mean, I of course can't live without time blocking,
Speaker 3: time blocking, task patching in them days. For me, the
Speaker 3: I call those the OG time management strategies, part of
Speaker 3: my time management Swiss army knife. I'm actually Laura in
Speaker 3: the middle of a theme week.
Speaker 1: Where what is that?
Speaker 3: Oh, it's where you assign essentially a theme to your
Speaker 3: entire week in order to cut down on that context switching.
Speaker 3: So this is a podcast theme week for me. I
Speaker 3: will I will end this week with twelve new podcast
Speaker 3: interviews for my podcast that I'll then be able to
Speaker 3: run over the next few months. And the next podcast
Speaker 3: theme week is in October. And so this makes life
Speaker 3: so easy because I'm not trying to plug interviews into
Speaker 3: my schedule because I find that I'm someone that gets whiplash,
Speaker 3: and I don't think that this is uncommon, going from
Speaker 3: a coaching session with a client to an interview for
Speaker 3: someone else's podcast, to an interview for my podcast to
Speaker 3: a conversation with a teacher at my daughter's school. It
Speaker 3: feels like a game of ping pong, back and forth,
Speaker 3: back and forth. And so by having a podcast theme week,
Speaker 3: I'm able to be in this podcast mindset, this host
Speaker 3: mindset all week long, and it's really exciting, it's really fun,
Speaker 3: and it's really energizing. And so looking for opportunities to
Speaker 3: create theme weeks, I also do a coaching theme week
Speaker 3: and a content theme week where I try to be
Speaker 3: as all in as possible in those different areas and
Speaker 3: it just helps the week and my mindset flow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like day camps in summer because of music
Speaker 2: camp this week and like soccer camp the next week.
Speaker 1: Exactly. Yes, that so life should be more like summer camp. Definitely,
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
Speaker 2: So I always ask my guest this question, what's something
Speaker 2: you've done recently to take a day from great to awesome?
Speaker 3: Ooh, something that I have done recently to take a
Speaker 3: day from great to awesome? Oh? You know, I would
Speaker 3: say that something that I've done recently to take a
Speaker 3: day from great to awesome is building in an opportunity
Speaker 3: to get out of the house intentionally and work in
Speaker 3: another environment. So I have a home office. I love
Speaker 3: my home office. I think it's really important to have,
Speaker 3: you know, a consistent environment that's yours to have this mindset.
Speaker 3: But as that extroverts, sometimes I just need to get
Speaker 3: out of the house and be out in the world.
Speaker 3: And one thing that I actually do on a quarterly
Speaker 3: basis is I host a quarterly and a day and
Speaker 3: so I have a quarterly and a day coming up
Speaker 3: on Friday where I will get out of the house
Speaker 3: and I'll go work from one of my favorite restaurants
Speaker 3: and just enjoy a change of scenery. It's energizing. I mean,
Speaker 3: you're still doing the work, but it's energizing.
Speaker 1: It's different.
Speaker 3: It changes things.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I was about to ask you what's something you're
Speaker 2: looking forward to, but it sounds like that's probably it.
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to quarterly and a Day. I even
Speaker 3: have a massage scheduled that afternoon because I try to
Speaker 3: also do something that's really for me on that day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, that sounds delightful.
Speaker 2: I think I need a Laura day very sand get Wie,
Speaker 2: so Anna, where can people find you? Sure?
Speaker 3: So the best way for us to continue staying in
Speaker 3: touch and to to into more time management goodness would
Speaker 3: be checking out my podcast, It's About Time. I have
Speaker 3: new episodes that go live every Monday that either deep
Speaker 3: dive into a time management topic or it's an interview
Speaker 3: with a go getter to understand how they are getting
Speaker 3: things done. And in terms of social media, I like
Speaker 3: to hang out on Instagram, So come find me on Instagram,
Speaker 3: send me a DM let me know what you thought
Speaker 3: about this conversation. If you might try theme weeks and let's.
Speaker 2: Chat sounds awesome. Well, Anna, thank you so much for
Speaker 2: joining us. Thank you to everyone for listening. If you
Speaker 2: have feedback about this or any other episode, you can
Speaker 2: always reach me at Laura at Laura vandercam dot com.
Speaker 2: In the meantime, this is Laura. Thanks for listening, and
Speaker 2: here's to making the most of our time.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Before Breakfast. If you've got questions, ideas,
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