1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff production of I Heart Radio. Hey 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: brain Stuff, I'm Lauren Vogelbaum, and this is a classic 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: episode from our archives and from erstwhile host Christian Sager. 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: This one deals with what agoraphobia is and what it isn't. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: We wanted to share this episode because with many of 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: us continuing isolation to help curb the spread of COVID nineteen, 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: prevent our hospitals from getting overwhelmed and thus save both 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: lives and money in the long run, we're all feeling 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: a little hold up and anxious about going out around people, 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: and agoraphobia isn't quite the right label for that, but 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: people with this condition may be struggling with it. Right now. 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: I'll let Christian explain. Hey brain Stuff, it's Christian Sager. 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: Doesn't it seem like some people aren't afraid of anything? 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: But you know what, those people their phonies because they're 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: scared of chainsaw clowns just like everybody else. They're just 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: better at hiding it. Everybody had as fears, but not 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: everybody has a phobia. Medically recognized phobias are different from 18 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: normal fear in that they provoke a very intense reaction. 19 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: They are unreasonable or unwarranted. For instance, being intensely afraid 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: of a guy with a shotgun and a ski mask. 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: While that kind of makes sense, but being intensely afraid 22 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: of balloons doesn't so much. And finally, they can interfere 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: with a person's ability to live their life. But there 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: are other anxiety disorders that, while very real and potentially 25 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: very disruptive of a person's life, are far more insidiously vague, 26 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: and agoraphobia is one of them. According to the d 27 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: s M five, every year one point seven percent of 28 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: adolescence and adults will be diagnosed with agoraphobia. So what 29 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: is it? Well, a lot of people have heard the 30 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: term and have a vague idea of what it means, 31 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: but a lot of these ideas are wrong, or at 32 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: least they don't tell the whole story. So, for instance, 33 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: some things that agoraphobia are not are a fear of crowds, 34 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: a fear of wide open spaces, or a fear of 35 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: being outside. Though all of these may be a manifestation 36 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: of actual agoraphobia, agoraphobia is actually a broader complaint that 37 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: will often include some or all of the fears previously listed, 38 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: so for some general layperson definitions to help you get 39 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: the gist of it, here we go. Agoraphobia is a 40 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: type of anxiety disorder in which you fear and often 41 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: avoid places or situations that might cause you to panic 42 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: and make you feel trapped, helpless, or embarrassed. That's from 43 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: the Mayo Clinic. Or Agoraphobia is an intense fear and 44 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: anxiety of being in places where it is hard to 45 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: escape or where help might not be available. Agoraphobia usually 46 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: involves fear of crowds, bridges, or of being outside alone. 47 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: That's from the National Library of Medicine at the National 48 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: Institutes of Health. One more, agreaphobia is a fear of 49 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: being in situations where escape might be difficult or help 50 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't be available if things go wrong. That's from the 51 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: National Health Service in the UK. So really, agoraphobia is 52 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: more broadly the fear of being trapped in a vulnerable situation, 53 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: especially when exacerbated by an existing predisposition to panic disorder. 54 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: Very often, the person with agoraphobia specifically dreads experiencing a 55 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 1: panic attack or other panic like symptoms in a situation 56 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: where such an experience would be especially in opportune according 57 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: to the d s M five and this is the 58 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: latest edition of the Professional Diagnostic Handbook for Mental Health Professionals. 59 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 1: According to that to meet the diagnostic criteria for agoraphobia, 60 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: you must have quote market fear or anxiety about two 61 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: or more of the following scenarios standing in line or 62 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: being in a crowd, being outside of the home alone 63 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: using public transportation, being in open spaces, or being in 64 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: enclosed spaces. So the d s M five reports that 65 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: the person with a gooraphobia fears or avoids these situations 66 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: because of thoughts that escape and might be difficult or 67 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: might not be available in the event of developing panic 68 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: like symptoms or other incapacitating or embarrassing symptoms. What physically 69 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: happens is the following. According to the U S National 70 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: Library of Medicine, these symptoms show up when you're experiencing 71 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: a gooraphobia, chest pain or discomfort, choking or shortness of breath, 72 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: dizziness or fainting, nausea, rapid heartbeat, sweating, and trembling. Also, 73 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 1: according to the d s M five, you can only 74 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: meet the criteria for diagnosis if you always are almost 75 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: always have the fear response to these situations, You actively 76 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: avoid these situations or require the help of a companion 77 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: in the level of fear you feel is disproportionate to 78 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: the threat represented. This condition lasts for six months or more. 79 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: The fear, anxiety, or avoidance causes quote clinically significant distress 80 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: or prevents you from living a normally functional life, and 81 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: the suite of symptoms you experience is not better grouped 82 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: under another diagnosis. For example, if your fear only occurs 83 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: because you fear people's reactions to perceive flaws in your 84 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: physical appearance, this might be a body dysmorphic disorder instead 85 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: of general agoraphobia. So if you have intense, persistent, debilitating 86 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: fear that you'll begin to have a panic attack or 87 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: another embarrassing or incapacitating episode while you're stuck in a 88 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: place or situation you can't get out of or where 89 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: you can't find help, you might have agoraphobia. That's a 90 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: long one, and this can have some really serious consequences. 91 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: For example, more than one in three people with agoraphobia 92 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: are completely homebound and unable to work, and sometimes people 93 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: inappropriately self medicate with the abuse of drugs and alcohol. 94 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: Agoraphobia often develops out of an existing panic disorder. For example, 95 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: if a person experiences a panic attack in a particular 96 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: type of place, say, for example, like an airplane or 97 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: an elevator, he or she might start to avoid ever 98 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: being in that situation again. Over time, this can develop 99 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 1: into full blown agoraphobia. Something like agoraphobia can sometimes be 100 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: difficult to accurately diagnose, since it's associated with something like 101 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: panic disorder, and also because the functional symptoms may resemble 102 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: those of problems with different causes. For example, you may 103 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: dread and avoid flying in airplanes because of agoraphobia, or 104 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: maybe simply because you fear death by plane crash. The 105 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: situational phobia is outwardly similar, but it happens for very 106 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: different reasons. All right, So maybe you're wondering, if I've 107 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: got a gonophobia, how do I treat it well? The 108 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: most common treatment responses are a combination of cognitive behavioral 109 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: therapy and antidepressant medication. Cognitive behavioral therapy is basically a 110 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: common form of psychotherapy where the therapist helps the patient 111 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: talk through thought processes and common behaviors and then replaces 112 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: those bad thoughts and behavior patterns with better ones. Antidepressant 113 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: medication could also include drugs such as selective serotonin reuptake 114 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: inhibitors or ss R eyes or serotonin neuro epinephrine reuptake inhibitors. 115 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: So if you or someone you know are suffering from agoraphobia, 116 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: there's help out there. All you have to do is 117 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: seek it out. 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