WEBVTT - The Player's Lounge: Waiting For Everything to Go Right 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:07.960 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:09.840 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:12.920 Cowboys. 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:19.720 This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:21.680 World headquarters. 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:21.880 At the Star. 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:28.200 Now your hosts Barry Church, Anthony dor set De, Montrey Moore, 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:33.159 and Newly Scrugs. 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:35.159 All right, Alabama started up the alumni. 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:40.120 All right, players, ladd, we are we good. We couldn't 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:41.360 rolling there. 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:42.239 We're there. 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:46.800 Got Anthony Dorset right here, got Trey Moore. I'm newly Scrugs. 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:51.120 Barry Church is unavailable on assignment. 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:56.440 A little bit too busy, too busy. 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.960 Cowboys training camp is going on here at ox Star, California. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.280 You're here at the Cowboys headquarters in Frisco, Texas. 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:04.880 I'm gonna go out there tomorrow. 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:07.880 And exclusive hold it down. Be nice. 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.720 Yes I am. 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:11.480 I know. 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:17.080 I'm thinking the official sponsored airline of the Cowboys. 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.360 Go ahead on flying to Santa Barbara. Yeah, brand adorse me, 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:20.760 I like that. 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:22.880 Go ahead, yeah, go. 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:27.959 With the company playing. But pads were popping yesterday. Pads 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.400 were popping, and I hate that I wasn't there when 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.240 I think about it now, but I was a family reunion. 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.880 But first, right, first past Rob Jones. 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:37.600 Guard Rob Jones is gonna miss the next two to 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.880 three months with a broken bone into the broken bones 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:44.399 in his neck and Cowboys said coach Brian Shotehimer said 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:48.360 it happened on a kickback block. So he did say 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:51.080 earlier in the week last week, we're gonna be physical 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.560 football team. It's gonna be physical out here. And he 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.760 made no apologies at this press conference today. This is football, 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:57.280 so what it is. 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:57.560 He said. 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:59.880 Rob was having a good camp and there were some 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:02.360 he was taking the first team reps ahead of Tyler Booker. 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:04.920 Clearly that's not going to be the case. He was 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:08.519 even working with Booker on techniques. So he's trying to 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:12.080 be a good teammate. Sir Trey as a deep former 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:15.720 defensive lineman and with the Cowboys, when you see something 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:17.639 like this happens day one, what goes through your mind. 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:18.160 It's a player. 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.600 Everybody go down every day. Be That's what Cameron said. 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.880 But when you see this, not to make too many 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:28.119 jokes about it, it's football. My heart goes out to him. 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.880 And that's a major injury, especially a neck injury. Normally 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.960 you hear about soft tissue stuff, but as far as 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.760 that in those trenches, when you hear about an injury 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:38.760 like this, like you can't help but think about just 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.800 technique and the way that that looks and how everything 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:45.040 goes from there, Like to have a major injury in 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:49.800 your neck like that. It's tough, but it also lets 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:51.480 you know that he's a shot, he's a man of 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.680 his word. He said, you're coming in, you're bumping, were 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:55.400 about to be hidding, and we're about to be thumping. 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.400 And so to go out there, you just wonder like, hey, 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.880 was this a technique error or is just that? But regardless, 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:04.160 this is putting more pressure on Bookers. So now I 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.480 want to see what he's gonna do. Like sometimes, like 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:08.040 back in the day, they used to throw you in 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.680 the pool and say you gotta go swim, Like, guess what, Booker, 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:11.799 You're about to swim right now. 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:12.959 So I want to see if he's gonna swim. 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:14.720 Before they did a little bit of that, and he 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:16.720 was having a couple of struggles, a lot coming at him, 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:18.959 and that's when Rob Jones came in there, played a 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:22.639 little bit. But now now Todd Booker's right back out there. 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.320 But it's different though, when you don't have a safety 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.160 net behind you. When you got a safety net behind 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.200 you and stuff like that, or you know, you gotta 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.680 vet the like that veteranship, no matter if he's a 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.240 starter or whoever he is, that is that's helping you 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.600 make that transition to not have him out there. You know, 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:37.480 you're gonna have some eyes now that he's gonna be 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.840 sitting back there coaching, but to now learn from him, 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.440 get those reps and see him behind him, that's gonna 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:44.000 it's gonna be. 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.360 It's gonna be speak volumes to this game. 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:48.000 And now he's gonna have to go on the trial 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:49.800 and or he's gonna have to sit there and talk 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.440 to you know, the other offensive lineman. Can y'all help 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:54.440 me along while still trying to learn this system? 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.800 So yeah, I think that, you know, just like Marche 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.320 is saying, like, no no plan B now I'm saying 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:01.560 he's gonna have to get out there. He's gonna have 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.360 to earn those stripes and hopefully with the reps that 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.320 he was taking and trying to learn from Rob before 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.760 he got hurt, it paid some dividends for him. But 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.440 you know, it's it's that time of year. What what 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:13.440 year is this for him. Now this is what second 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:20.520 third year for Tyler Nookie? Oh yeah, so so right now, 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.120 so he got a weekend? Yeah yeah, so that's why 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.160 That's what I was when you said reps he you 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.320 say you got half a practice? Yeah, so so I was. 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.120 I was actually thinking he was his second year. I 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:31.360 was gotting confused somebody else. 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.120 It's the other guard that you're thinking of. 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:38.000 Yeahler STOLISI okay, that's got you got you? Yeah, so 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:39.800 now right now, man, he gotta get it, you know 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.000 what I'm saying. And so you know he I'm sure 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.000 he was. He's drafted to be in that position, you 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.360 know what I'm saying. So you know, hopefully with with 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.359 with uh getting put in the fire, going up against 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:52.560 those first team d D linemen as well, he's gonna 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:54.400 have to go to He's going to figure it out 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:54.880 real quick. 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.680 It is that that I've seen an interesting quote yesterday. 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.560 I forgot who, but it was two offensive lineman knew 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.719 you posted in the group chat. He said, man, going 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:05.560 against this D linean and stuff like that. You know, 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:09.880 you praise up your teammates and Tyler guy, but with 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.040 him giving you want to I wonder how much of 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.400 this is fluff? Is this really you just pumping up 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.080 your teammates and saying this, or is this really you? Like, hey, 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.600 we see Michael Parson as coming from these guys. Oh 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.039 is taking over right now? Like I really want to 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.520 know how good is this defensive line? And if the 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.640 defensive line is as good as they're saying there are, 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.159 he's going to Booker's gonna learn early, like when he 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.000 goes against those other guys, he's gonna be like, hey, 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:35.720 when I was I think about my tenure here, I 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:39.240 had to go against Tyron Smith. You have to go 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.320 against guys like Travis Frederick, Zach Martin sitting in there. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:43.320 So when we. 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:48.400 Went against these other offensive Island, it was shoot Joe Joe. 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.000 It was it Joe Looney, that was Tobacco, Say Joe. 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.240 Big Joe was back there, like you had guys of 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.320 those calibers to where it was like, hey, we're still 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.800 have talent. And when I played other guys, it was 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.160 like it wasn't as much as so you wonder that 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.960 you have that type of depth right now better. 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.680 I mean, he's saying from I just read the same 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.600 thing that you're talking about, and I remember him saying 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:13.560 that with the mixture of the guys you know, and 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.039 throwing different guys in and out, the scheme is looking 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:17.680 like there's going to be a lot of problems for 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:22.080 offensive linemen. So you know, in practice, him getting these reps, 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.080 going up against that D line, going up against the 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:26.800 random number of guys too as well, he's gonna come 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:27.680 along pretty fast. 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:32.960 So no surgery is what I've read initially right now 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.880 for Rob Jones, That's what I'm reading initially right here. 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.599 So two to three months he's back. As a player 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.920 who's going through something like that this early in camp, Heady, 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:44.920 what goes through your mind because you were, you know, 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.120 trying to make the team. You've got a contract here, 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.080 you're looking forward to a whole new starting band right 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.320 out of the gate, first practicing, I get a major injury. 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:52.520 Let's just keep it one hundred. 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.760 Everybody wants to start in the league, So right now 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.320 you're looking at, Okay, I'm not going to have a 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.640 possibility of starting, you know, no telling with other type 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.440 of goals he had for the season, But that's the 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:05.880 main thing is like how soon can I get back? 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.000 How soon can I help? And how soon can I 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:10.160 contribute to this team and get back out there with 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:14.240 my guys now with a neck injury like fortunately, knock 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.720 on wood, knock on wood. I've never had one, but those, 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.760 like like Marche said, you know, the soft TENSI you, 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:22.160 injuries are a little bit different. 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.720 You basically can have a I. 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:27.640 Guess you could say an easier way to look at 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.080 when you're gonna heal, you know, but with the neck 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:32.280 injury or anything like that, neck back things like that, 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:34.800 there's really no timeline. You know, You're you're sitting there 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.440 waiting for everything to go right, and then you don't 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.720 want to jump out there too soon and re injured it. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.800 So, you know, but the main thing what he's thinking. 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:44.840 About is getting back and contributing as fast as possible. 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.760 Boy, that's a tough injury. 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:51.240 Like you said, I think the example. 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.960 My dad always said examples are the best. 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.560 Teachers, and so when I think of my example, David 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:59.120 Wilson was my teammate when we played in New York 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.040 and he had the injury, and so seeing him rush 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.840 back to piggyback off what you said. He came back, 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.760 he had the spinal surgery where he fused his vertebrates 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:11.040 and came back played during the season, wasn't his normal self, 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:14.240 still had some of little nerve damage. So if I 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.680 could say, I just hope that he takes his time 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:20.240 to really truly heal his body up, because as a competitor, 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.200 you are trying to figure out you are trying to 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:24.880 jump back in there to be starting over a first 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.480 round draft pick. It's like, man, I was going, I'm 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.840 gonna be the right guy and like to have all 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:33.640 that momentum going, like initially that first mindset because I've 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.800 been there being a journeyman, like getting hurt early in 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.000 camp and you saying, this is finally my year I 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:39.960 earned the right and then to be the right on 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:40.920 America's team. 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.199 It's like he's probably sitting. 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.680 Over there sad, but now, like he said, this is 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:47.360 the opportunity for him to go in there and help 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.320 coach up that young guy still show and build value 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:50.800 to the team. 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:58.040 So in the trenches day one neck injury, what is. 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.160 The mentality for the rest of the guys, Know we're 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.320 about to put pads on here. Day one, we already 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:09.200 see somebody got got handled. Don't get got you go 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:09.640 over there. 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.600 Everybody have their kumbay our moment and pray. But during 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:13.920 training camp, this is wartime. 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:14.160 Man. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.040 You on the opposite side of the ball with that 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.800 different colored shape, this is opponent. One guy got caught slipping. 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:21.800 I'm not getting caught today. I'm gonna make sure that 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.520 I don't get got Because you have these different mindsets. 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.640 You got young guys coming in there trying to prove themselves, 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:29.120 make their make the team, make America's team. Then you 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.800 have old guys in there that, hey, I got a wife, 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:35.440 a kid, maybe a baby mama to other Hurrican kids 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.480 over there, I gotta go feed these These are grown 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.360 men with responsibilities to where they say the next man up. 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.360 You seen a guy get hurt and you move ten 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.520 yards forward and the play keep going. Well, that's what's 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.600 gonna keep going. This snowball is still rolling. 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:48.800 Oh yeah, that is one of the coolest things that 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.200 I've ever seen. When I first started selling football, man 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.360 is it was Jimmy Johnson. Man, it was Jimmy's last 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:58.959 year with the Cowboys and Alfredo roberts tight end. Alfredo 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:01.560 Robertson they just what super Bowl? Coming off a Super Bowl, 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:06.280 Alfredo played for Jimmy and Miami. Okay, so you know, 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.280 this is your guy. Alfredo's your guy. Alfredo goes down 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.959 and it's one of those knee injuries and everybody know it, 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:14.160 and everybody feels for him. 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:15.040 Afraid it was a light. 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:16.040 Guy, and. 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.839 So they rightie, right, what's going on? 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:22.760 Turn it around, spinning around. 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.160 So they just go up, you know, like fifteen yards 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:25.360 or so. 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.120 Then the trainers around here, you know, Michael Irving played 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:29.760 with they and Michael looking at him, and then you 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:31.200 gotta go get in a huddle, and they just. 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:32.520 Keep going to Gyn look back. 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:33.520 They ain't look back. 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.040 A man practice. I keep going. Next man up, man, 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:37.440 I exactly what I mean. 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.880 Like Cameron said, off, what was the movie? He said, Hey, 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.520 people die every day. You gotta keep going. I felt bad. 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.000 Then you know they bring the car down for the year. 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.679 But I'm like, my first look again, Jimmy, you had 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.679 this in college. You want a super Bowl like that. 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.240 That's when you're gonna get a little bit of sympathy 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.599 when when you bring out that car, like players are like, 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.360 oh snap, we gotta keep going. We dying. 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:01.559 It's the heat. Hey, we still got to keep going 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:02.560 because we over. 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.319 Here looking at him. We might mess around and get cut. 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.480 But then when the car come, it's like, oh, snap, 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:08.280 let's let's stop real quick. Let's run over there. Hey, 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:09.040 we're gonna pray for you. 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:09.360 Brother. 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.839 Ah man, you know you cry and then guess what, 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:14.160 give me those oranges and I'm back on the field. 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:15.040 I got another rep. 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:17.600 So you guys are players, So you guys have seen 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:19.800 this since college, so you use it. But as an 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:23.520 immediate guy. For me, first time, that's that's cold as ice. Yeah, 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:28.040 it's dirty work. Somebody get to him. 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:29.600 What's the next player? 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.880 Wow, I didn't see nothing until college for the first time. 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.959 And you know, nobody had no injury. We had Mike 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.840 Sherman as our head coach. When that first injury happened, 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.360 it was like keep moving. And then when we got 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.319 in the meeting, he used to always say, hey man, 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:45.160 this is the league. I cut you, this is how 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.880 we do it. It got to be professional, and that 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:50.120 was a rude. I didn't know that that was going 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.240 to be the league for the rest of my career. 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.199 So when I seen that getting to the league, it 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.959 was like, y'all have coach Sherman. You better keep going 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:57.280 right there. 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:57.959 That's time to work. 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.640 Brought pro mentality to ex A and m. 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:02.719 He definitely did. He definitely did that. 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.120 Very interesting. All right, let's switch to. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:08.040 Money. 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:13.880 Jake Ferguson, uh oh, look back. Jake Ferguson tight end. 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.760 Four year contract extension, fifty two million dollars, thirty million 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:21.920 of it year guaranteed, twelve million dollars signing bonus for him, 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.880 puts him in the top seven in terms of paid 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:26.640 tight ends. 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:27.800 Here comes the money. 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.080 I wasn't that familiar with him until he got the contract. 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.439 I'm just going like, I didn't know he was top seven, 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:37.760 I'll put to you like that, or at least top ten. 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:39.400 I didn't know he was in that category. 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:40.880 He was not last year. 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:42.160 Last year. 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.480 Last year he had a down year. 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.240 He was not that And. 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:49.679 Some people will say, well, Dak Prescott was hert but 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.960 Cooper Rush in the times of Cooper Rush had filled 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.240 in in the past. He still had been a part 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:58.640 of the offense, and Schottenheimer's talked about how he'll come back. 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.480 Jake Ferguson is RaaS his hand and admitted he did 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.120 not have the year that he needed to have, but 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:07.839 he wanted to be with the Cowboys. And so my 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.959 initial thought processing and I'd asked you, guys, was is 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:15.320 he a top ten player at his position? Because they 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.760 had another guy in Dalton Schultz who they allowed to 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.240 lead to go to Houston. 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.960 Now, in fairness to the organization, they made him an offer. 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.400 He didn't like it. He wanted to get paid like 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.679 David and Joker, Like you ain't David Joke. 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:29.880 You ain't got them type of numbers. 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.600 And you know, just just because the Brown's out here 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.200 throwing money around, don't mean you gotta throw money right Brown. 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:37.560 It's just so different that. 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.719 I think timing. Timing has a lot to do with 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.599 this stuff, without question, you know what I mean. And 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.160 we could just look at it from timing from say 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.800 ballers from back in the day. If these dudes had 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:50.640 the opportunity to play today with type of money, they 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.319 would actually beginning to just where we are today and 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.679 with the market is setting for people in itself, all right. 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:58.880 And I just think that right now where the market 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.400 was for him, I think this timing was perfect. 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:03.240 Now does it benefit him at. 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:03.600 The end of the day. 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.520 Heck yeah, benefits at the end of the day. 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:07.480 And what I like for my time to be perfect too, 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.160 when it's time for to be perfect, yes, but you know, 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.640 like that we talked about before, with that money comes 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.200 with responsibility to as well. 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:16.640 All right, So you just can't get. 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.400 That money and go out there and not play and 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.920 stay and stay and make sure that you earn every 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.440 penny of that, all right, and as well, you know, 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:25.920 just do everything you just supposed to do, not only 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:28.200 with the catching of the ball, but like you're also 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:28.640 going to have to. 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:30.840 Be that that dude just blocking and doing everything that 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:32.000 you can do for this team. 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.760 So but I really think that, like as we talked 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:37.760 about it, like I said in the beginning, I didn't 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.760 know he was a top ten and but now he's not. 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.360 But now he's not yet like it, let me say 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.320 yet right, not to cut you off, it's not that 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:47.360 he's not a top ten. 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.360 And we all know, especially you. 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.080 Being around football growing up, being around there, knew that 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:55.040 you didn't wrote a lot of people the way that 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:56.880 the market is now, a lot of people don't get 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:58.280 paid off of what you're doing. You got paid. You 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.200 get paid off of what they think you're going to do. 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.240 And in the years past, he's shown that he's reliable. 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:07.120 He's dependable, but also like you said, it's timing. You 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.280 lose your starting tight end right now. You're trying to 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:13.720 keep some talent in the house. You gotta run first, offense, 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:17.160 heavy mindset, coach that the past is predicated off of 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:20.120 the run. You're gonna get that play action style tight 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.240 end going in there. Think about his time at Seattle 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.360 with you having guys like Jimmy Graham. No, it's saying 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:29.000 those guys like that, It's like it's a demand right now, 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.920 and that demand was him and he did whatever he 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.400 needed to do to show that he's dependable. But what 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.480 I am going to say is that we all know 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:40.120 with the Cowboys organization, Jerry is stingy. He ain't just 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.400 throwing money out here. Like you said, this ain't the brown. 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:46.240 So if he's throwing money at you, you didn't did 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:48.800 enough to are You didn't did enough for somebody in 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.200 the building to like you and show you enough to 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.360 where's that? And then for them to throw this type 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.600 of bread out there. Tim you're definitely getting paid off 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:57.960 of potential and you're showing them that. So I'm excited 0:15:57.960 --> 0:15:59.760 to see what he's gonna do. I think he's gonna 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:01.920 live to it. If there's any time for him to 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.120 be the playmaker. It's going to be with this run 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:05.040 first coach. 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.360 So we'll see right now, definitely sure, And I think 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:09.560 that right now too as well. With us not having 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:13.880 a solid I guess you could say run game and 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:15.720 not knowing who is going to be that man guy, 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:17.520 you're going to have to have somebody like a tight 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:18.600 end like this, who's going. 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.120 To solidify your pieces right Now've got try to keep 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.040 what's in the house and the market being what it is. 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.240 They said, hey, we feel comfortable enough to throw you 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:30.360 that type of bread. And so the question I have 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.640 is not is he a top ten? The question I 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:36.240 really have is like we paid him? Why haven't we 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.240 paid the guy that deserves it right now? Then we 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.200 got enough money left for him. That would be the 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.600 big question I would have, see huge. 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.680 Why I don't have that question because we know he's 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.960 going to get paid, Yes, And every year pretty much 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:49.000 Jerry will do one of. 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.960 These deals right before he give out that big bag. 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:53.840 You're waiting on ceedee lambing and they signed somebody else. 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.120 That's just what he does. That's what he does. 0:16:56.480 --> 0:17:00.400 And so in some ways and Stephen did a very 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.720 good just it takes two. So Jake Fergus said, I 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.800 want to be here. So if you want to be there, 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.359 then maybe you don't take every last dollar, but you say, hey, 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:11.480