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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: we go. Oh yes, welcome to money Making Conversation. I

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Speaker 1: Rasche a long time don't see I'm so glad to

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Speaker 1: It's great seeing you. Um, you know. I had to

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Speaker 1: Trump coming out being honest with the people, enacting coming

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Speaker 1: up with a national strategy and enacting that national strategy,

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Speaker 1: he hid it from the people. He died about it.

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Speaker 1: They kept moving the goal post. Uh. He failed to

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Speaker 1: you know, come up with a national strategy. He politicized

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Speaker 1: something that simple was wearing a mask and socially distancing,

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Speaker 1: and so now people are fatigued, they're fed up with it.

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Speaker 1: You're right, we're about to go into another lockdown where

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Speaker 1: you can only you can't dine outside. You will only

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Speaker 1: be able to do take out and pick up from restaurants.

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Speaker 1: Restaurants are barely holding on. They're holding on by a thread.

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Speaker 1: The money that was allocated, you know, from the Cares

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Speaker 1: Act in the summer, all that money's gone basically, so

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Speaker 1: restaurants are you know, many of them won't survive this shutdown.

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Speaker 1: They won't come back. The restaurant industry is being forever change.

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Speaker 1: But here's the deal. Because we botched it, we now

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Speaker 1: all have to pay a price, and you and I

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Speaker 1: are in a social contract. I can't do you know,

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't do anything that harms you. You shouldn't do

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Speaker 1: anything that harms me. As much as I hate this,

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Speaker 1: as much as everyone hates it, this is what we

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Speaker 1: have at this moment. We don't have the vaccine, We

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Speaker 1: don't have an ability to slow the spread other than

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Speaker 1: to take some kind of public health measures. And the

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Speaker 1: public health experts are saying closing the restaurants, because that's

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Speaker 1: where this public spread happens is what we have available

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Speaker 1: to us. Uh, it stinks. People are upset about it.

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Speaker 1: There were protests outside of the mayor's house. They've been

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Speaker 1: protests in the streets. People feel like their rights are

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Speaker 1: being infringed upon. But what I try to get people

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Speaker 1: to understand is, look, the government already is in our lives.

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Speaker 1: Where a seatbelt right, that's the government. Don't go past

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Speaker 1: sixty miles an hour on the freeway, that's the government.

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Speaker 1: You can't drink until you're twenty one in most states,

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Speaker 1: that's the government. You can't vote until your eighteen, that's

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Speaker 1: the government. So this notion that wearing a mask and

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Speaker 1: socially distances puts the government in our lives in an

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Speaker 1: intrusive way, that's just false. You know, government is already

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Speaker 1: in our lives. And when you look at those two

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Speaker 1: hundred fifty thousand people, we've lost their lives. I say,

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Speaker 1: this is a small price to pay, although it's difficult,

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Speaker 1: and I want to minimize the pain that people are feeling.

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Speaker 1: A business owner, someone who has you know, severe isolation

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Speaker 1: and depression. But if we don't do something, or we

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Speaker 1: will will you know, we're willing to as a country

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Speaker 1: to say five thousand people dead, twenty million people in

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Speaker 1: fact it and until Biden and Hairs get into office

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Speaker 1: and get the scientists back in charge, we're all going

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Speaker 1: to have to make tremendous sacrifices. And I just encourage

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Speaker 1: people to look at it that way. The light is

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Speaker 1: at the end of this tunnel. It's coming. It's the

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Speaker 1: right now as being blocked by Donald Trump. So if

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Speaker 1: you can get them a slide left or right, we

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Speaker 1: can see that light. It's really interesting when you were

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Speaker 1: saying that about you know, speed limits, and because some

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Speaker 1: people could say, you know, it's infringing them our rights

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Speaker 1: because I never would drive past sixty five. You know,

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Speaker 1: I never drive past fifty five. I drive accordingly in

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Speaker 1: school zonns whilere you why are you why are you

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Speaker 1: forcing me to live like this? And that's very true.

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Speaker 1: What you're saying is that, look, there's there's there's a

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Speaker 1: right and the wrong in life, you know, and we

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Speaker 1: all put rules in place to protect the masses, not

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Speaker 1: always saying the individual. You can live right like I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna I don't own a gun, so I'm not

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Speaker 1: more likely I'm not gonna shoot anybody in my lifetime.

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Speaker 1: But there are people who do own guns, and you

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Speaker 1: have to have gun loss to stop from just shoot

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Speaker 1: anybody when they feel like it. But you know, when

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Speaker 1: you when you think about all the things that you're

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Speaker 1: doing a rever and this special report, and and and

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Speaker 1: being able to launch, and you're saying congratulations over there,

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Speaker 1: one hundred episodes, if you've taped so far, what's just

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Speaker 1: the future of this opportunity that you're doing on Facebook. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I hope that he continues to grow. We

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Speaker 1: we've been growing. The audience we've been the guests have

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Speaker 1: just been phenomenal. I've been blowing away myself by some

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Speaker 1: of not just the experts, because, like I said, a

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Speaker 1: lot of contacts with those, but some of the real people.

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Speaker 1: I've had the most amazing conversation with Oscar Grant's mother,

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Speaker 1: Wanda Grant. She, you know, her struggle with her son, Oscar,

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Speaker 1: who was killed by uh, you know, transit police uh

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Speaker 1: in northern California, turned into that big movie, you know,

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Speaker 1: Fruitville Station with Michael B. Jordan and I take Andrew

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Speaker 1: Bland's sister, you know, who talked about what that tragedy

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Speaker 1: was like for her family and going through such a

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Speaker 1: public funeral and having to grieve your sister in such

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Speaker 1: a public way. Uh. There's like a guy named Keith

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Speaker 1: Grant who's been on my show a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: He lost his father and his grandfather on the same

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Speaker 1: day from COVID and he learned, you know, in that

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Speaker 1: short period of time, his mother had COVID and several

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Speaker 1: of his brothers and sisters including him them. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: families like that just ravaged by COVID. On one of

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Speaker 1: the state legislators in Michigan who was in the Michigan

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Speaker 1: State House when those armed militia came and threatened, you know,

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Speaker 1: the state legislators. So just having a chance to sit

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Speaker 1: down and talk to those people and learn about their

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Speaker 1: experiences has just been an amazing way for me to

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Speaker 1: manage my own mental health issues during this period. So

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Speaker 1: I just want to keep bringing those stories, you know.

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Speaker 1: I just want to keep connecting with real people like

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Speaker 1: that and giving them an opportunity to share their story.

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Speaker 1: Some of the thank you notes I get from guests

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Speaker 1: again and even my experts, you know, because the experts

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Speaker 1: go on national television and local television and they get

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Speaker 1: two minutes to talk you know, but they come on

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Speaker 1: a specially when they go a fifteen minute interview where

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Speaker 1: they really get to explain themselves, uh and answer questions

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Speaker 1: and again talk to real people. And one of the

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Speaker 1: big issues now that I'm so focused on, laser focused on,

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Speaker 1: is the vaccine. Seventy person of the African Americans say

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Speaker 1: they won't take the vaccine. And unless we have you know,

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Speaker 1: well over fifty percent of the Americans who take it,

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Speaker 1: it won't be effective. And there's been not nearly enough

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Speaker 1: conversations happening in the black community with experts, with influencers

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Speaker 1: like you, with celebrities about the vaccine. So we just

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Speaker 1: did a show this week. We've done multiple shows on

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Speaker 1: the vaccine, and that's an area where you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: dedicated to, uh, you know, helping people understand what the

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Speaker 1: safety issues are, but hopefully helping people feel more comfortable

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Speaker 1: once the data is out, once the research has been

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Speaker 1: you know, vetted upwards and backwards and left wards and

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Speaker 1: right from people we trust, you know, people we trust,

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Speaker 1: getting people to understand how important it's going to be

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Speaker 1: if we ever want to get back to anything that

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Speaker 1: looks like normal. And I don't even know what the

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Speaker 1: new normal will look like. But if we want to

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Speaker 1: get you know, back to restaurants, back to movie theaters,

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Speaker 1: you know, movie theaters decimated, we're gonna have to you know,

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Speaker 1: increase the number of people in this country who are

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Speaker 1: willing to get vaccinated, and black people in particular. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about Butterfly Health. You know Next Cube maul and Evans.

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Speaker 1: I interviewed him on the show. So when I started

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Speaker 1: pop up on your your just Malan Stanford University. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about it. He's he's the CEO of next Cube.

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Speaker 1: When they go out there and they fund tech and

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Speaker 1: health oriented platforms, and that's what Butterfly Health is a

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Speaker 1: is a health oriented platform. Talk about how that relationship

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Speaker 1: came together and exactly what is Butterfly Health. So you

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Speaker 1: know Roy Shaun from knowing me. I'm a serial entrepreneur.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I can't sit down without you know,

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Speaker 1: starting something new. So people ask me, what did I do?

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Speaker 1: You know in the quarantine, I've written a new book,

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Speaker 1: I started a digital talk show and I started We're

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Speaker 1: talking about Butterfly Health with my brother. My brother Uh

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Speaker 1: is a tech entrepreneur. He's had two successful excess from

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Speaker 1: tech companies, and I had this idea because you know,

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Speaker 1: the work I do around are too is them in

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Speaker 1: special needs. I come into contact with so many caregivers

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Speaker 1: and the issue of mental health. I really started thinking

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Speaker 1: about this last year at the end of last year

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Speaker 1: before COVID UH and just how impacted the families I

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Speaker 1: dealt with were with mental health issues. And I called

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Speaker 1: my brother and I said, hey, look, I got this idea.

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Speaker 1: I said, can I send you this nondisclosure agreement before

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Speaker 1: I tell you? Know? You didn't he said, I won't

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Speaker 1: tell you what he says, Yes, I tell you. After

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Speaker 1: a few choice words, I got him to agree that

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Speaker 1: I could send him his son and he would advise

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Speaker 1: me on it. We're talking about it, and he gave

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Speaker 1: me a sense about you know why I needed someone

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Speaker 1: like him because despite all of my himself to d

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Speaker 1: A and so, he uh told me that, you know,

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Speaker 1: for a percentage of my company, he would uh come

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Speaker 1: in as a old founder and the CEO. So that's

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Speaker 1: what brought the brothers sister team together. But uh, you

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Speaker 1: know it's it's a digital therapeutic application available on iOS

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Speaker 1: and Android, and it's targeted to the medicaid population. We

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Speaker 1: grew up poor. You know my story North say Angels

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00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: on surviving on food stamps, on medicaid ourselves. So we

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Speaker 1: wanted to deliver and develop a product targeted specifically for

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Speaker 1: that market place. And that's what Butterfly doesn't. And Next Queue, UH,

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Speaker 1: they invest in early start up healthcare companies and UH

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Speaker 1: one of our advisors referred us to Marlon and Next

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Speaker 1: Cube and they, you know, we went through an application

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Speaker 1: process and so they now have invested in the company.

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Speaker 1: We went through an accelerated program with them. We've gotten

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Speaker 1: investments from start Up Health, We've gotten investments from investment

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Speaker 1: fund in Tennessee called Jumpstart Foundery, and so we are

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Speaker 1: building the company. We're in conversations with major health plans

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Speaker 1: as well as health systems like Kaiser about rolling the

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Speaker 1: platform out at the beginning of next year. All of

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Speaker 1: these companies are clamoring for a solution to address health

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Speaker 1: equity issues, to address you know, underserved population. So from

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Speaker 1: a timing standpoint, you've got a tsunami and mental health

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Speaker 1: issues happening because of COVID and the social unrest, and

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Speaker 1: you have health companies who said we are committed to

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Speaker 1: diversity and inclusion in ways you know, perhaps they hadn't

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Speaker 1: been in the past. So you have those two things colliding,

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Speaker 1: creating some tremendous opportunities for us to one raise a

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Speaker 1: lot of capital for Butterfly and then to roll it

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Speaker 1: out and to have an impact on the lives of

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Speaker 1: people who desperately needed. So super excited about that. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's been thirty minutes of a good conversation with a friend. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we've know this. I do a lot of national shows.

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Speaker 1: A Black news channel has me on like one them

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Speaker 1: up talking about the COVID and the financial situation and

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Speaker 1: how Black America has to deal with the crisis that's

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Speaker 1: not being funded properly by our Democrats or Republicans. So

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Speaker 1: if you ever want me on your show, I'd love

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Speaker 1: to come on your show. I watched it. Uh, you's

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Speaker 1: such a highly respect yourself. We will work out the

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Speaker 1: details work. I will come over there strictly talking about

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Speaker 1: the financial side and the budgets and what's not happening

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Speaker 1: and why they won't pass this bill and they need

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Speaker 1: to stop trying to They're not gonna get these functions

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Speaker 1: on dollars a week. I'm just gonna tell you that

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Speaker 1: right now. Now it's not gonna happen, but they can't.

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Speaker 1: They should be giving them something because there's some big

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Speaker 1: tax bills that are going to be coming this way.

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Speaker 1: Two thirty one menth of January is gonna really cripple

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Speaker 1: not only America, because especially in the Black community, because

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