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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the

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Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jetty and now he Armstrong and Eddy that

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Speaker 2: call between President Trump Anzie.

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Speaker 3: We're doing very well with regard to Ukraine and Russia.

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Speaker 3: And one of the things we are doing is signing

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Speaker 3: a deal very shortly with respect to rare earth with Ukraine,

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Speaker 3: which they have a tremendous value in rare earth and

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Speaker 3: we appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: And so we're going to have a deal with them,

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Speaker 4: and then we're going to be in the mining business

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Speaker 4: in Ukraine. Now, Zelensky responded to this. Here's a news

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Speaker 4: report on that.

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Speaker 5: Zelenski's fearing to dismiss Trump's proposal the US take ownership

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Speaker 5: of Ukraine's nuclear power plants for long term security.

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Speaker 1: She autumn all nuclear power plants belong to the people

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Speaker 1: of Ukraine, while.

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Speaker 5: Leaving the door open to one currently under Russian occupation.

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Speaker 1: That is a.

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Speaker 2: Completely different issue. We are open to discuss it, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what's going on at this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, those are two different topics, the rare earth mining

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Speaker 1: thing and the Trump just floated the idea off the

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Speaker 1: top of the said, you know it could help them

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Speaker 1: with their energy plants too.

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Speaker 2: I don't care.

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Speaker 4: We need to talk about this later. I'm worried about

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Speaker 4: this myself. There have been fifteen, more than fifteen of

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Speaker 4: those swatting attacks against conservative influencers in the last week.

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Speaker 4: Do you know what a swat thing is. It's really

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Speaker 4: easy to do. I call the police and say, hey,

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Speaker 4: Jim Jones at thirteen twenty one, marking Mockingbird Lane. He's

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Speaker 4: holding his wife gunpoint. He just beat her up and

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Speaker 4: he's holding a gunpoint. He says he's gonna kill her,

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Speaker 4: and then the cops show up, guns drawn at the door.

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Speaker 4: Nothing has happened, nothing actually is happening, but gun's drawn,

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Speaker 4: and there's the opportunity for something to go really really wrong.

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Speaker 1: Well and at the best, at its best, it will

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Speaker 1: be a terrifying and disconcerting experience for the people involved.

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Speaker 4: Oh sure, If I'm at home and i get boom boom, boom,

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Speaker 4: open up, I'm scared to death. Even if they're saying

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Speaker 4: it's the police, is it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: If it's the police, I might have a gun when

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Speaker 4: I show up at the door and then of course

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Speaker 4: I might get shot, or they might get shot, or

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Speaker 4: all kinds of horrible things can happen. And this has

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Speaker 4: become a tool that bad people are using to just

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Speaker 4: disrupt annoy Fright and their enemies. But anyway, fifteen plus

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Speaker 4: conservative influencers have been squatted had a swatting attack in

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Speaker 4: the last week.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's insane. I know.

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Speaker 1: Pam Bondi has said we're going to crack down on

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Speaker 1: this like crazy and go after it. I certainly hope

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Speaker 1: they do it. It has resulted in injuries and death

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Speaker 1: in the past. It's an incredibly dangerous thing to oh,

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Speaker 1: for everybody, for the cops and the person in the house.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're in a rural area or a

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Speaker 1: high crime area or something like that, and this has

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Speaker 1: happened more than once, and it's tragic, and you think

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Speaker 1: it might be the cops or it might not. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to have a gun in my hand when the cops,

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Speaker 1: who have been told something horrendous and violent was going on,

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Speaker 4: Well like you and I don't live in neighborhoods where

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Speaker 4: this sort of thing happens. Ever where there are police

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Speaker 4: showing up and pounding on doors. So if in the

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Speaker 4: middle of the night there's pounding on my door somebody

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Speaker 4: yelling police, how would you react to that. I mean

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Speaker 4: you appear out the window.

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Speaker 1: I mean yes, Nobody with a quick trigger finger thinks

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Speaker 1: you're threatening them, because again, they have been told that

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Speaker 1: you are a violent lunatic who is about to kill people. Right,

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Speaker 1: so I might be peering out the window to shoot

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Speaker 1: thinking I want to go home to my wife and kids,

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna shoot before I'm shot. Right Again, it's

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Speaker 1: impossible to fully appreciate how incredibly dangerous this is. And

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Speaker 1: you know, if it's some sixteen year old jackass, you

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Speaker 1: know the sanction needs to be sufficiently strong that no

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Speaker 1: But if this is adults who are knowingly doing this,

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Speaker 1: there's got to be extremely strong sanctions.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right.

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Speaker 4: I think the best way to stop it is that

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Speaker 4: the penalty is just so high that you wouldn't want

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Speaker 2: Around with it. I don't know how else to stop it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, whether that would work because a lot

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Speaker 1: of these people are crazy.

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Speaker 4: I was just looking at a video. Maybe we'll play

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Speaker 4: the audio a little bit later of somebody cutting off

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Speaker 4: a tesla. I think it was in Washington State, but anyway,

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Speaker 4: cutting off a tesla in traffic, and then the person

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Speaker 4: pulling over because they were so rattled, and then the

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Speaker 4: person getting out of the car coming up into being

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Speaker 4: screamed at by a lunatic on the road because they

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Speaker 4: try a tesla. Well, can you deter somebody like that

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Speaker 4: with a penalty, because they're clearly freaking nuts, but you

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: We mentioned speaking of things that Pam Bondi says she's

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Speaker 1: going to crack down on. She says it's clearly domestic

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Speaker 1: terrorism and we'll be treated as such. We mentioned yesterday

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Speaker 1: that of the four people arrested so far for vandalizing, destroying, bombing, shooting,

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Speaker 1: tesla facilities, chargers and vehicles, three of them identify as

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Speaker 1: transgender or non binary.

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Speaker 4: In that something, what percentage of the country is a

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Speaker 4: try Well, of course, spirit Brown University thirty percent of

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Speaker 4: the student body is trans. But I mean in the

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Speaker 4: general population it's like zero point oh one percent. But

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Speaker 4: for people who destroy Tesla dealerships.

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Speaker 2: It's for three quarters or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's something.

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Speaker 1: I'm scrolling through the headlines and the news pictures and

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Speaker 1: the rest of it, and of course the delightful headline

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Speaker 1: from a Colorado news paper. Woman arrested for vandalizing Tesla

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Speaker 1: dealer and there's a picture.

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Speaker 2: Of a full grown dude. He's a man.

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Speaker 1: He's clearly a man, beyond anybody's reasonable questioning.

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Speaker 2: He is a man. Woman arrested.

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Speaker 1: Well, he said he's a woman, so that makes him

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Speaker 1: move will Seriously, how insane.

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Speaker 2: If somebody had brought.

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Speaker 1: You that ten years ago, you'd think, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: But if it's the picture I saw, they weren't even

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Speaker 1: No, there are trying. No, Well, I thought you had to,

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Speaker 1: I mean, cause you can't.

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Speaker 4: You can't expect me to call you a woman if

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Speaker 2: To look like a woman.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yes, you you are, and you'd better or we

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Speaker 2: This swatting thing. Worries man. I've had people actually ask me,

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Speaker 4: I had, because there's a whole bunch of just like

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Speaker 4: Twitter accounts to get a lot of attention, or radio

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Speaker 4: shows that have said things and.

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Speaker 2: Getting swatted ain't cool. Yeah, no, it's not.

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Speaker 4: Somebody's gonna get killed at a at a Tesla dealership

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Speaker 4: or in one of these swatting. There's gonna be death

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Speaker 4: at some point. And then I don't know if that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't remember when we talked about this yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Was it this hour or the next hour? About the

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Speaker 1: incredible divorce literally and figuratively between white college educated women

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Speaker 2: Stunning, It's it's different worlds.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, there's an eighty point spread of approval, eighty

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Speaker 1: points jd Vance similar Doge it's an eighty point is

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Speaker 1: that that's seventy point spread DEI seventy one point spread

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Speaker 1: between those two groups of people. They are from different planets.

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Speaker 1: And what's interesting is white men no degree have, when

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Speaker 1: Who they vote for has changed recently, but in terms

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Speaker 1: of issues, they're slightly more conservative. White college women with

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Speaker 2: I feel like so for a long time, the.

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Speaker 4: If you're going to break down groups of people, that

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Speaker 4: has a college degree meant a level of education up

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Speaker 4: until I don't know however many years ago. But now

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Speaker 4: it doesn't mean you've got any different level of eduction. Well,

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Speaker 4: your education, you've educated in Marxism or craziness or whatever.

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Speaker 4: You don't sure, you're not any more knowledgeable in terms

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Speaker 2: So the term a college degree.

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Speaker 4: It's almost it's almost misleading as a term.

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Speaker 4: Instead of saying college educated women, you might it might

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Speaker 4: be more accurate to say college indoctrinated women vote this

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I think that would be more accurate. And I'm

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Speaker 1: In non binary decolonialization dance symbolism, right, And that's not

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Speaker 1: even an exaggeration really, Oh no, no, it's like a

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Speaker 1: And so you look at that and do you call

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not the right term, based in the way

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Speaker 4: we've used it throughout history. So no university indoctrinated people

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Speaker 4: vote this way. Non university indoctrinated people vote that way

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Speaker 4: is the way we should go forward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like if the boy scout's taught nothing but

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Speaker 1: hand to hand combat and you said, well, that young

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Speaker 1: man's an eagle scout, Well it means something.

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Speaker 2: Very very different than it used to.

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Speaker 1: And the colleges have trent many of them have transformed

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Speaker 1: themselves in a way that's nearly that drastic. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know where this ends. Nobody knows. I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: got a couple of different examples, and they're really good.

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Speaker 1: They're really encouraging about how DEI has been shed at

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Speaker 1: this corporation and that investment fund and this government and

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Speaker 1: the rest of it. We're making great progress, but the

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Speaker 1: problem is not to get like super gross with you.

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Speaker 2: But and I'll be gentle, but.

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Speaker 1: There are situations in medicine where you can clear up

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Speaker 1: everything but the main source of infection, but you still

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Speaker 1: have the main source of infection, And the main source

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Speaker 1: of infection of this neo Marxist mind virus is the

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Speaker 1: education system, and we are barely barely scratching the surface

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Speaker 1: of it. Some of them are in retreat in a way,

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Speaker 1: like that poor beleaguered gal who's running at Columbia University

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Speaker 1: right now, Armstrong?

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Speaker 2: Your name is she?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 2: Your sister?

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Speaker 1: And the I think it was Wall Street Journal did

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Speaker 1: a profile of her about how she's in an impossible

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Speaker 4: Remember the phrase that pays is democracy is better than authoritarianism.

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Speaker 1: half of Reagan's mess, the promotion of human freedom that

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Speaker 1: undermines dictatorships from within.

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Speaker 2: Well, I got I have a great sympathy toward that philosophy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I bet, I got to admit that I haven't looked

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Speaker 2: into the story. I'm glad you have.

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Speaker 4: But I just assumed that the Voice of America has

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Speaker 4: gone left like everything else has.

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Speaker 1: And it's basically it's a hell of a leap, sir.

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Speaker 1: That's a hell of an assumption to make stay tuned,

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Speaker 1: and it's basically broadcasting NPR to the rest of the

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Speaker 1: world or the sixteen nineteen project or something. So it

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Speaker 1: didn't really bother me that much. Wow, wait to steal

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Speaker 1: my thunder you, Kirk.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. That's just what I was assuming

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Speaker 2: they go into the history of it.

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Speaker 1: The news agencies were created to counter communism and spread

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Speaker 1: the truth, and countries where the media are controlled by

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Speaker 1: the dictatorships and they lie about the rest of the world.

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Speaker 2: It's like in.

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Speaker 1: Judy and I took a cruise around parts of Europe

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Speaker 1: last year at Christmas time, and one of the places

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Speaker 1: we ended up in was Broadislava, which was part of.

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Speaker 2: Yeah there is Oh.

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Speaker 1: It was beautiful, Yeah, but it was interesting because the

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Speaker 1: tour guide grew up the daughter of a guy who

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Speaker 1: turned out to be an anti Soviet activist, but he

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Speaker 1: kept it very very very very quiet. He was like,

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Speaker 1: not a big activist, but he believed in his art

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Speaker 1: that freedom needed to come.

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Speaker 2: Back to his people and he wanted it to happen.

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Speaker 1: But he dared not even tell his daughter that he

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Speaker 1: was listening to the Voice of America and that because

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Speaker 1: you would be jailed, beaten, tortured, maybe killed for being

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Speaker 1: caught listening to the Voice of America. So anyway, that

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Speaker 1: made a hell of an impression on me and what

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Speaker 1: she told us in the tour, because I think it

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Speaker 1: might have even been me who asked her what she

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Speaker 1: thought of the West or what they're taught about the West,

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Speaker 1: and she said, oh, we were taught that people were

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Speaker 1: just starving, that it was miserable, there was crime everywhere,

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Speaker 1: nobody could eat, kids were starving in the streets and

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Speaker 1: after his dogs. And the reason that our country is

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Speaker 1: walled off, literally walled off and protected by armed guards

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Speaker 1: everywhere was because everybody in the West was trying to

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Speaker 1: get in because they were so desperate.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So that is the history of the Voice of America,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I've always been such a fan of

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Speaker 1: the idea of it. Well here's the headline from the

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Speaker 1: Washington Free Beacon, which I think does some of the

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Speaker 1: best conservative journalism around these days. They've refused to call

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Speaker 1: a terrorist a terrorist. Voice of America's demise comes after

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Speaker 1: years of liberal training sessions proer and bias and even

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Speaker 1: Russian propagandists. And then they go into when Trump or

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Speaker 1: drump if you prefer, moved this weekend to dismantle the

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Speaker 1: Voice of America. MSNBC wrote that the move brought an

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Speaker 1: end to pro democracy media outlets, blah blah blah, all

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Speaker 1: the good stuff we were talking about. But VOA's liberal

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Speaker 1: staffers have not only face criticism from running at left

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Speaker 1: wing broadcaster similar NPR. They're also accused of operating at

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Speaker 1: proer on, been producing anti Israel news coverage, and at

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Speaker 1: least two cases publishing Russian propagandists. Said, Oh lord, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to quote carry Lake on anything unless it's

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Speaker 1: how to look good and high heels. But she retails

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Speaker 1: or she mentions a couple of those complaints, and then

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Speaker 1: she discusses how she's not really running the VOA, she's

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Speaker 1: running the umbrella organization. The current director apparently sees things differently,

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Speaker 1: telling the journalist Mark Alprin that he considers himself a

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Speaker 1: caretaper taker who's happy to help Blake as she takes

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Speaker 1: on the responsibilities for all.

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Speaker 2: Right, let's get into the main part.

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Speaker 1: A White House fact sheet accompanying the Executive Order said,

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Speaker 1: in an assortment of reports, including those published in The

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Speaker 1: Free Beak and detailing VOA's left wing biases and sympathies

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Speaker 1: toward Tehran, it took aim at past VOA contributors ties

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Speaker 1: to the Kremlin, including a Russian anti US propagandist who

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Speaker 1: produces videos with anti US and anti Semitic themes, bah

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Speaker 1: Bah Bah VOA's liber leanings, which became particularly pronounced during

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Speaker 1: Trump's first term, run counter to the broadcasters state admission

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Speaker 1: to quote represent America and present the policies of the

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Speaker 1: United States clearly and effectively. In fact, in many cases

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Speaker 1: its advanced narratives preferred by America's adversaries and aligned itself

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Speaker 1: with the anti Trump left. VOA reporters, for example, are

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Speaker 1: instructed to be fair, impartial, and objective in all public spaces.

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Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, a.

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Speaker 1: Collection of those reporters took to social media to trash

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Speaker 1: the administration they're meant to highlight abroad just littered with

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Speaker 1: anti Trump posts.

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Speaker 2: Without expect without looking into it at all. I just

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Speaker 2: assumed this. I've assumed.

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Speaker 1: Why would Voice of America be much different than NPR,

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Speaker 1: similar sort of situation, and NPR is ridiculous, right, listen

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Speaker 1: to this now. Under the Biden administration, the Umbrella Organization

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Speaker 1: spent about twenty four thousand dollars in taxpayer funds to

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Speaker 1: teach reporters under itswing how to be quote, balanced and biased. Okay,

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Speaker 1: oh good, that's a good expenditure. The contract to do this,

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Speaker 1: Edge mccaton went to the Pointer Institute, a liberal journalism

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Speaker 1: group that in twenty nineteen, released a blacklist of conservative

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Speaker 1: news outlets, including The Free Beacon, which it deemed unreliable.

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Speaker 1: Under criticism, Pointer withdrew the list, which was put together

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Speaker 1: with its partners from the far left Southern Poverty Lass.

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Speaker 2: Wow, well they're involved at all. Shut down Voice of America.

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Speaker 1: That's your how to be balanced and bias free educator.

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Speaker 4: I would love to see that list. I'm sure NPR,

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Speaker 4: New York Times anything like that. Probably some of your

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Speaker 4: cable news channels were not on there as being biased

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Speaker 4: in any way.

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Speaker 1: The Pointer Institute a large rapp largely funded by George Soros,

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Speaker 1: Craig Newmark, Bill Gates, and Tim Gill, an activist whose

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Speaker 1: husband served as former presidents ambassador to Switzerland, which would

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Speaker 1: be really cool gig. Anyway, They used US money to

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Speaker 1: pay Pointer for at least four balanced and biased training sessions.

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Speaker 1: Then VOA shifted further left during the so called racial

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Speaker 1: reckoning in the spring of twenty twenty, after George Floyd

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Speaker 1: doing stories like what is white privilege? In whom does

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Speaker 1: it help?

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Speaker 2: EANs? Tutingly what you speculated?

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Speaker 4: Thanks you tuning and Voice of America. If you're listening

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Speaker 4: in Soudan, here's your weather today. Fundamentalist Muslim groups are

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Speaker 4: going around slaughtering people.

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Speaker 1: So bring an umbrella, right exactly. And America is evil

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Speaker 1: and racist. In fact, it's the most racist country on earth.

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Speaker 1: So the one thing you must not do is act

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Speaker 1: like America. This is the vice of America. Yeah, strip

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Speaker 1: it to the bone, rebuild it with sanity. I would

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Speaker 1: be happy to run it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, put us on it. No, I wouldn't. I can't

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Speaker 2: take the cut and pie. Put us on the morning,

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Speaker 2: that'd be fantastic. Huh. Broadcast would be pretty cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'd love that. H We got more in the way.

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Speaker 4: Here's our text line if you want to comment on

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Speaker 4: any of the things we talk about. Four one, two, nine, KFTC.

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Speaker 1: And getty.

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Speaker 4: So the whole tesla thing is really weird and getting weirder.

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Speaker 4: This is a story from the Seattle area.

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Speaker 2: I was thankfully by myself.

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Speaker 5: Lee was on the way to a doctor's appointment in

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Speaker 5: Lynnwood Wednesday morning when she says, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: a driver behind her just laying on the horn as

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Speaker 5: they came up to a red light.

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Speaker 2: Things spiraled out.

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Speaker 5: Of control when a white SUV followed her and cut

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Speaker 5: her off, stopping in the middle of.

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Speaker 7: The road, gets out and walks straight up to my

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Speaker 7: door window. So I cracked my window and I said,

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Speaker 7: what what is for the problem?

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Speaker 2: He is, you need to sell your car. This is

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Speaker 2: a Patsy car. You're driving it. You need to sell

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Speaker 2: your car.

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Speaker 5: Lisa, She's been driving a Tesla for the last two years.

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Speaker 5: She says, a man wearing a camouflage jacket and a

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Speaker 5: ski mask attacked her for it.

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Speaker 7: It's really sad that this is what's happening to people

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Speaker 7: who honestly, it doesn't affect how I believe or what

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Speaker 7: I believe.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, and leaving you know, left out of that story.

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Speaker 1: She had to be scared to death. A dude stops

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the road, cuts her off and

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Speaker 1: is walking up to her car. I'd be thinking, on

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Speaker 1: I'm about you, as I think I would have driven off.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't have waited around to see what the guy

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Speaker 4: in the ski mask wants.

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Speaker 2: After he had driven over him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not rolling down my window and talking to

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Speaker 1: a dude in a ski mask. Wow, that's a scary story.

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Speaker 1: How freaking crazy are these people?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you realize, of course, I assume that the person

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Speaker 4: driving the Tesla almost certainly is on your side politically,

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Speaker 4: almost certainly.

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Speaker 2: They drive a tesla that does I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, I don't fit that profile what most tesla drivers do.

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Speaker 1: And this is so obvious as to be a little tiring.

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Speaker 1: But if it was some you know, maga person doing

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Speaker 1: something similar to some gay person or whatever, it would

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Speaker 1: be seen as a horror and a maniac was on

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Speaker 1: the loose quite appropriately. Yeah, when you're stop it strangers

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Speaker 1: in traffic and terrifying them like.

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Speaker 4: That wouldn't have just been on the Seattle Evening News.

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Speaker 4: That would have been on the CBS Evening News if

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Speaker 4: that had been a guy in Camo who was walking

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Speaker 4: up to.

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Speaker 2: Well, go back six months.

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Speaker 4: You go back six months and a guy in Camo

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Speaker 4: walking up to a tesla cutoff in traffic and said,

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Speaker 4: you believe in climate change? You fascist weirdo or something

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Speaker 4: like that.

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Speaker 1: Right, Oh my god, the coverage of that anyway, I

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Speaker 1: don't know where this is going.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's over.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I think the crazy people are getting

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Speaker 1: emboldened if anything, and desperate is there fed the harem scare.

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Speaker 2: Them rhetoric of their side. A different topic before we

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Speaker 2: hit the top, of the Hour.

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Speaker 4: First of all, wasn't it like a week ago that

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Speaker 4: we mentioned coastal grandmother style or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, coastal grandmother chic. That's right, it's right.

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Speaker 4: Look, and it's got to do with your It's got

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Speaker 4: to do with clothes and the way you decorate your house. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: I just came across this in the Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 4: Grandpa Style. Cool guys love grandpa style. How to make

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Speaker 4: cardigans and pleated pants look modern. So cardigan sweaters, completed pants,

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Speaker 4: grandpa style.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm busy over here. That's not the one I

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Speaker 2: was going to talk about.

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Speaker 4: I was going to talk about the growing popularity of

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Speaker 4: sock shoes. It's got a particular brand here, Brave Pudding

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Speaker 4: their three hundred and eighty bucks, which is a pretty

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Speaker 4: pricey shoe. Their socks with hard bottoms on them, sock shoes,

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Speaker 4: the shock shoe. The sock shoe trend has been embraced

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Speaker 4: by fashion influencers and fancy moms whatever.

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Speaker 1: Whatever the hell of fancy mom is. Most moms not

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Speaker 1: one of those. Most moms, I know.

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Speaker 4: The last thing they would call themselves at this point

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Speaker 4: in their lives is fancy.

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Speaker 2: You gotta go with shoes, right.

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Speaker 4: It looks pretty comfy though, I mean it's basically like

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Speaker 4: a sandal you slip on.

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Speaker 2: It looks like wearing socks. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I might try that. I don't know if I'll get

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Speaker 1: the four in a dollar version. It sounds stupid looking.

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