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Speaker 2: All right, last hour for me this week.

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Speaker 1: Jmax in tomorrow for an hour World Baseball Classic starts.

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Speaker 2: It is great to have you in.

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Speaker 1: Got a little trade today, Djmore from the Bears going

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Speaker 1: to the Buffalo Bills along with a fifth round pick.

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Speaker 1: Bears get a number two pick. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: think that's too rich in the Chicago made off with

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Speaker 1: the Heights. I think Buffalo got a really good player

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Speaker 1: and the Bears got a really good pick. And Djmore

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Speaker 1: hasn't missed a start in forever, so I like it.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of picks, big trade yesterday Rams, Matt Stafford's aging

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Speaker 1: year to get Trent McDuffie, the great pick.

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Speaker 2: And this is what the Rams do.

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Speaker 1: That now makes nine out of the last ten years

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Speaker 1: the Rams have traded their first round pick, yet they

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Speaker 1: still remain Super Bowl favorites and have only one losing

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Speaker 1: season in that window.

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Speaker 2: How do they do it? How is it possible?

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Speaker 1: Deepest roster next to Seattle in the league, maybe Philadelphia?

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Speaker 2: How do they do it?

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Speaker 1: In that same time period, the Jets have had twelve

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Speaker 1: both stink. It's not that the Rams undervalue picks, but

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Speaker 1: is it possible the rest of the league mostly overvalues picks.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about this with Dallas Cowboys. Cowboys fall in

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Speaker 1: love with their picks. They don't spend much money in

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Speaker 1: free agency. The Cowboys draft somebody, then they pay them,

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Speaker 1: and they often pay them two or three times. I

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Speaker 1: don't like that. There are just many ways to be

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Speaker 1: great in this league. Seahawks do it through the draft

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Speaker 1: and then go small game hunting. The Rams get a

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Speaker 1: Kyraen Williams, and then they go big game hunting. Dvonte,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, Matt Stafford, Trent McDuffie. Yesterday, It's not like

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Speaker 1: the Rams are giving away the first round picks for nothing.

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Speaker 1: They got Goff, Jalen Ramsey, McDuffie, Matt Stafford. So they're

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Speaker 1: getting something for it. But success and excellence in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: once again, is not just one framework. It cracks me

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Speaker 1: up when you go on TikTok. It's like, here's how

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Speaker 1: to solve your liver. Here's how to absolutely invest this

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Speaker 1: will guarantee a longer life. It's a bunch of grifters.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of different ways. Some people have good genetics,

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Speaker 1: some people have bad genetics. Some people eat like crap

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Speaker 1: and look great at sixty. There's no one way to

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Speaker 1: do anything. Hell, Tim Burton and Christopher Nolan both made

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Speaker 1: very different. So you know, the Rams do it one way.

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Speaker 1: They're trading the first rounder. The Buffalo Bills just went

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Speaker 1: out and took a big swing. I would say this

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Speaker 1: with the Chicago Bears. I think part of moving Dj

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Speaker 2: Max Crosby is so.

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Speaker 1: Much better than anybody you're going to draft at the

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Speaker 1: end of the first round what the Chicago Bears are doing.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not against or for trading first

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Speaker 1: So it's funny about this, and we've said this before,

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Speaker 2: You know, we're all that way. So people loved Mike Jordan.

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan spent a lot of time at the free

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Speaker 1: Nobody complained three times. Kobe Bryant averaged ten free throws

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Speaker 2: Ten free throws a game. Crickets. His game is fluid.

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Speaker 1: But people are really up in arms because Sga shoots

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Speaker 1: And I've never heard a guy get more flak for

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Speaker 3: One of the areas, obviously, is the free throw line.

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Speaker 3: You know Sga is he's a tough cover, and he

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Speaker 1: So what people in the NBA are trying to convince

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Speaker 1: Ok see, that's what Adam Silver wants. Let's have our

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Speaker 1: convince me that the refs on a nightly basis all

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Speaker 1: If you don't have Shack's power or Lebron's body or

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Speaker 1: ninety four, you have to manipulate and you have to

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Speaker 1: find your game. He's a wiry sixty six a buck

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Speaker 1: In a pro athlete league, he does get bumped a lot. So,

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Speaker 1: the truth about this with SGA is you don't like

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Speaker 1: his game. You love Michael's game, you love Kobe's game,

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Speaker 1: don't like his game. It's not flashy, it's not fun

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Speaker 2: You know what I look at SGA. You know what

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Speaker 1: I say, I see JSN, the wide receiver for the

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Speaker 2: Either are truly gifted.

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Speaker 1: Athletically JSN both though, can manipulate coverage, both ascending statistically

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Speaker 1: every year they get better, so they clearly work on

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Speaker 2: That's what I see.

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Speaker 1: Jsn's oways open and SGA often gets to the free

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Speaker 2: How how do they do it? Because they're smart.

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Speaker 1: Guys and they use their body and they manipulate other players.

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Speaker 1: When you don't have major hops, you don't worry about

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Speaker 1: It fooled the Clippers front office. They gave them away.

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Speaker 1: He was only the number eleven draft pick. So this

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Speaker 1: It's like JSN he's arguably the best player out of

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Speaker 1: do that. For the record, I just I want to show.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying SGA didn't have style here.

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Speaker 1: He was after the game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, late game, they were like sitting a lot of

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Speaker 1: By the way, why does some things look so good

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Speaker 1: Let's give him credit and JSN credit for getting.

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Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger is around the corner here on a Thursday,

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Speaker 1: he was at the combine. Who jumped out to him

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Speaker 1: Fell for thirteen seasons played every offensive line position. You

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Speaker 1: know him for Baldy's breakdowns. He's currently on the third

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Speaker 1: floor of the NFL network. Who's at the combine? Now

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Speaker 1: he's grinding down film. Okay, so let's start with DJ Moore. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: goes to Buffalo along with a fifth round pick. Bear's

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Speaker 1: second rounder is rich, but I think DJ Moore is

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Speaker 1: a number one receiver, is he not?

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Speaker 8: nothing that Dj Moore, I mean in Shakier is a

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Speaker 8: good player, like you could trust him, but DJ Morris

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Speaker 8: They spled the ball around and so I think, you know,

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Speaker 8: Josh is going to really enjoy having Dj Moore out

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Speaker 8: I thought he was a running back with wide receiver

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Speaker 5: He breaks a lot of tackles.

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Speaker 1: Francis Malinoa out of Miami to me, if Mendoza wasn't available.

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Speaker 5: I went down to watch him in spring ball last year.

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Speaker 1: That? Is Ruben Bain lest of a draft pick to you?

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Speaker 8: We all watched the National championship game in Indiana beat Miami.

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Speaker 5: They practice hard every day. He's a tough kid.

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Speaker 8: When he goes to the NFL, he's not going to

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Love I said, Kansas City now has two first

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Speaker 1: Gibbs to me is what he looks like. Well, what

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Speaker 5: I love him. I love the guy and he catches

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Speaker 8: I'm just imagining these quarterbacks trying to throw the ball

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Speaker 8: If you want to win the hundred meters dish, you

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's my mock draft. A lot of GM tell

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Speaker 2: Do you have any concerns with Lemon?

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Speaker 5: He didn't look like he had the physical quality in

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Speaker 8: But that'd be my one concern. And you can pick

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Brian Baldinger, all these breakdowns are so good.

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Speaker 1: He's at the NFL network. This is what he does.

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Speaker 5: Look at that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he did great. Will all right, man, thank.

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Speaker 1: You, all right, buddy, talk you soon, okay, Yeah, Mark

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The I sent that Mark draft out to a few people.

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Speaker 1: Couple of them thought I was a little uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: That's almost a rule, right, j Mac with the news,

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Speaker 7: This is the headline news.

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Speaker 6: All right, let's revisit the big story of the day,

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Speaker 9: Moore trade. Collin.

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Speaker 6: Everybody is excited in Buffalo getting a star receiver and

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Speaker 9: A lot of ways you can go here.

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Speaker 6: I think, you know, let's tackle the Bills for a moment.

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Speaker 9: You know, they just watched the New.

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Speaker 9: Yep, go to the Super.

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Speaker 6: we got Josh Allen here. I don't want to say

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Speaker 9: GM's now on the clock. He had to do something.

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Speaker 6: I think this is a splash move to get a guy,

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Speaker 6: like it, I don't love it. I think they have

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Speaker 6: some holes on defense, Colin. It's an aging defense.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't have a pro bowler on defense.

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Speaker 6: It's also a problem, where would you peg Josh Allen's bills.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think offensively they have all the components

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Speaker 1: I think everybody's selling their stock on Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: I don't buy it.

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Speaker 1: If they get if they get a running back and

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Speaker 2: And I think Buffalo's.

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Speaker 1: Come on, well, no, I mean, the Jacksonville doesn't need

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Speaker 1: They If I was my hierarchy, if I did hierarchy today,

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Speaker 1: I would say Ram's best team.

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Speaker 9: Let me just do AFC first.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't want to do AFC.

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Speaker 1: Ok So hold on, I would say Ram Seattle. I'd

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Speaker 1: put Chicago three. I think i'd probably put Buffalo for Denver.

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Speaker 9: B Buffalo over Denver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Buffalo for Denver.

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Speaker 1: Five.

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Speaker 9: Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, that's something I don't think. That's terrible.

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Speaker 1: Chargers six, New England seven, Detroit eight, Green Bay nine,

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Speaker 1: and Texans ten.

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Speaker 6: No Jags, no, nobody.

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Speaker 1: That eight nine. I mean, the Jaggers couldn't win a

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Speaker 1: home playoff game, so that's just one man.

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Speaker 6: All of a sudden, it feels like the league is

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Speaker 6: of the parody. After that, I feel like the Rams

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Speaker 6: are at the top. I mean, dude, I don't know

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Speaker 6: that Seattle can be too callin, so they're losing their

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Speaker 6: OC Kenneth Walker.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like rashid Heat's gone but integral pieces man. No,

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Speaker 1: Walker had been injured for years. He had a great

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Speaker 1: playoff run. You don't give a Super Bowl MVP a

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Speaker 1: long deal. Like I was talking to somebody about it

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Speaker 1: this week and they're like, listen, it's the perfect time

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Speaker 1: to move off him. He was great for the playoff

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Speaker 1: run Dot You Trophy, but he has been dinged up

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Speaker 1: for most of his career.

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Speaker 6: Fair all right, let's move on to uh oh man,

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Speaker 6: this has gotten ugly quickly. Russell Wilson v. Sean Payton.

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Speaker 6: Remember that messy breakup? Oh boy, well, you know I

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Speaker 6: didn't realize this Russ. Russ went on a podcast and

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Speaker 6: addressed the feud with Peyton, and honestly, Russell Wilson sounds

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Speaker 6: like he's still very angry.

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Speaker 9: Here we go.

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Speaker 10: I don't say much. I never hardly ever say anything,

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Speaker 10: and I think this is time the place. But sometimes

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Speaker 10: you get fatigued of people talking about you. You just say,

478
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Speaker 10: like you mentioned, you're all human, you know. But it's

479
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Speaker 10: one thing for people that maybe aren't in the field

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Speaker 10: to me, when you've been in the ring or you've

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Speaker 10: been you know, on the same side, this and that,

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Speaker 10: and I got the same amount of rings as you got,

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Speaker 10: meaning Sean, right like, yeah, and listen, I got a

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Speaker 10: lot of respect for him as a play caller this

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Speaker 10: and that. But to take a shot, I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 10: I don't like, you know, I don't think it's necessary.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair.

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Speaker 6: I don't know that I've ever heard of NFL player

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Speaker 6: play the rings argument A ring that's an NBA argument.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it. Well, I think I think it's a fair argument.

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Speaker 1: Is that I got a ring, you got to ring,

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Speaker 1: and you know, let's not. I think that's fair. I

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Speaker 1: think I think Russell's taken a lot of heat, some

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Speaker 1: of it deserved.

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Speaker 6: He usually doesn't fire back, but this is about as

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Speaker 6: ornery as you'll catch him, right yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I think everybody has a right to defend themselves,

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Speaker 1: and Russell's taken a lot of crap through the and

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Speaker 1: he never fires back. He has every right to have

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Speaker 1: an opinion, and Sean tends to leave with his chin.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Sean and Russell were never gonna work. Their

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Speaker 1: personalities are opposites. One's very optimistic, one is hard, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're just different. Stages generationally different. It was

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Speaker 1: never gonna work. But Russell's taken a lot of craft

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Speaker 1: for years and never fired back.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I do like this. Yeah going not not

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Speaker 6: full heel, but he is. I mean right now, he's

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Speaker 6: a punching bag. He has been for a couple of

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Speaker 6: years because he hasn't been a good quarterback. Would it

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Speaker 6: have been fair if Russ said something like, listen, I

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Speaker 6: didn't play great, but Sean Payton was a jerk to me.

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Speaker 6: Would that have been a fair statement? Because remember at

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Speaker 6: the end, they were like, hey, take a pay cut

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Speaker 6: or we're dumping you.

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Speaker 9: Remember that.

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Speaker 6: I think it was after like a Buffalo game or

517
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Speaker 6: something like that, and it was just Russ was just like, WHOA,

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Speaker 6: what's going on here?

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Speaker 9: I mean, that's fair.

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Speaker 6: You usually take the high road. People take shots at

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Speaker 6: you all the time. You don't ever fire.

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Speaker 1: It's but if it was somebody that obsessed over it

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Speaker 1: and they were high profile proigh fireback, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think everybody has a right. Some people are very thin skinned.

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Speaker 1: I'm lucky, I'm not, but I know, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Russell has not countered on about ninety five percent of

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Speaker 1: the things people have said he has a right five

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Speaker 1: percent of the time to fire back.

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Speaker 6: So the only problem with playing the whole rings thing

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Speaker 6: is Peyton's still around. Denver's got a pretty good team.

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Speaker 6: They had number one seed. Peyton may get another ring

532
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Speaker 6: and then he could fire back at Russ and Russ

533
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Speaker 6: has nothing. So I didn't like the rings angle. I

534
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Speaker 6: think he should have just been more forthright and just

535
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Speaker 6: said what he felt. Anyways, final story is your boy,

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Speaker 6: Kyler Murray colin.

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Speaker 9: Waiting, waiting, waiting?

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Speaker 6: Will he go to Minnesota, will go to Hindy? What's

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Speaker 6: going to happen? He will not go to the Jets suite?

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Speaker 9: We hope.

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Speaker 6: Anyways, Before he went NFL back in twenty nineteen, Kylo

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Speaker 6: was drafted by the Oakland Athletics and opted to declare

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Speaker 6: for the NFL Draft. Well A's GM David Forst said

544
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Speaker 6: the team is always open to him exploring a return

545
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Speaker 6: to baseball if Kyler Murray doesn't get any looks he

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Speaker 6: wants from any good teams. We know he's going to

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Speaker 6: get a tiny salary because he's getting paid out. Do

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Speaker 6: you think there's any world where he just says I'm

549
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Speaker 6: gonna go play baseball.

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Speaker 1: The idea that you can just go you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna switch sports. Don't buy it. Wait, baseball

552
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: is highly skilled. It's never been deeper and more global.

553
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: There's never been more pitching talent. There's never been more

554
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: guys throwing turbo sliders and four seamers and guys throwing

555
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: ninety seven miles an hour. The idea that you can

556
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: just walk in and play not gonna happen.

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Speaker 6: Well, I guess the counter would be the Oakland A's

558
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 6: have been pretty horrible for many years.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what's up with their minor league system.

561
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 6: But if you've got Kyler Murray, you want to showcase him.

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Speaker 3: Do you not?

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Speaker 6: I think that would be great for baseball. Hey, look,

564
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 6: we got to even if he flops, who cares? We

565
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 6: got his numbers from his time at oklad Who listen.

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Speaker 2: He's a great athlete.

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Speaker 1: But I you know, when Dion Sanders went into baseball,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a global sport like it is now. I mean,

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00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: the talent in baseball is insane. I can remember growing

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Speaker 1: up in the seventies and eighties, if a guy threw

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Speaker 1: outside of Nolan Ryan or JR.

572
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: Richard, if a guy threw like ninety eight. It was staggering.

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00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: Everybody throws ninety seven now everybody.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to find a guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are no guys throwing eighty on a staff,

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Speaker 1: you know, high eighties. It's like the sport's so good

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Speaker 1: right now, with so much talent that the idea that

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Speaker 1: an athlete from another sport can just waltz in. It's

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Speaker 1: like baseball's a little like golf, you know, years on

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Speaker 1: the green matter, like just it's just a repetition. That's

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Speaker 1: why even the best hitters they're in the cage every

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Speaker 1: single day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you're telling me this was a first round pick.

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Speaker 6: This isn't, by the way, anybody's saying, Oh, this.

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Speaker 9: Is Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 6: The say Michael Michael Jordan was on a first round

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Speaker 6: baseball pick. Okay, Kyler Murray was an elite baseball player,

588
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Speaker 6: big time prospect. And the idea that he can't just

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Speaker 6: pick up a bat and after six months get back

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Speaker 6: in the swing of things, cheezy pun alert.

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Speaker 9: I don't think this is a terrible idea for it.

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Speaker 1: Boy, he's got a small strike zone. Well, Ricky Henderson's

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Speaker 1: strike zone.

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Speaker 6: Oh, Ricky Henderson one of my favorite players. Growing you

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Speaker 6: can name all your seventies guys, I don't know who

596
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Speaker 6: they are, but Ricky Henderson was one of my favorites

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Speaker 6: going up, and there's.

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Speaker 1: Well, the NFL is still positioning for the off season.

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Speaker 1: We do it every week at this time. Tomorrow borrows headlines.

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Speaker 1: Today our soothsayer makes predictions. What is the headline for

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Speaker 1: Max two x Crosby, soothsayer?

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Speaker 9: What our reference listen?

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 9: Been on a bit of a heater of late.

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Speaker 6: We had a couple of amazing calls here Kenneth.

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Speaker 9: Walker super Bowl MVP.

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Speaker 6: Then there was something in the NBA I already forgotten,

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Speaker 6: so Max Crosby. A lot of people are saying, oh,

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Speaker 6: maybe Dallas is in the mix Buffalo, could they be?

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Speaker 6: I got a surprise for you. The headline for Max

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Speaker 6: two x Crosby will be Sack to the future, Motor

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Speaker 6: City unleashes matter, Max Colin. I think the Detroit Lions

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Speaker 6: make a big splash and go after Max two x

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Speaker 6: Crosby to pair with Aiden Hutchison, fix the defense. They

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Speaker 6: got the new offensive coordinator. I don't want to push

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Speaker 6: the alarm in Detroit. But it feels like the Super

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Speaker 6: Bowl window maybe shrinking.

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Speaker 9: Colin.

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Speaker 6: You know Jared Gobs, my guy lives out near me.

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Speaker 6: I've seen him in public. Super friendly gentlemen. He's thirty

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Speaker 6: two years old. After this season, Jared Goff's dead cap

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Speaker 6: hit drops twenty nine million dollars. I don't want to

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Speaker 6: say he declined it all. Last year the offense wasn't

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Speaker 6: as good. You know, they just weren't as good of

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Speaker 6: a team. I wonder if they see some of this.

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Speaker 6: Oh man, the Rams are all in shucks. Look what

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Speaker 6: the Bears just did with Ben Johnson in year one.

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Speaker 6: The Vikings are going to be back. Michaeh Parson's coming back.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what the heck the Vikings are doing,

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Speaker 6: but this is a tough division. I think the Lions

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Speaker 6: are like, hey, we got to go all in. Let's

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Speaker 6: make our moves now. I like the trade of Montgomery

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Speaker 6: a declining asset, get more picks, Max Crosby, Can I

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Speaker 6: sell you on Detroit making a splash move.

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Speaker 1: It just feels like they have bigger issues than an

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Speaker 1: edge rush. But you know, it's interesting Tomorrow's headlines today.

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Speaker 1: What's the headline for Super Bowl MVP. You called it

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Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker. Yeah, I'm surprised you think the Seahawks just

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Speaker 1: move off him. I mean, who knows what Charbonnay's level

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Speaker 1: health level is going to be like when he comes back.

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Speaker 1: But Kenneth Walker's going somewhere.

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Speaker 6: The headline for Kenneth Walker will be kay walk this way,

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Speaker 6: g men blocked that way. Oh yeah, oh yeah, you

665
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Speaker 6: know that song back in the day. I heard this somewhere.

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Speaker 6: Giants making a splash move going for Kenneth Walker quarterback

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Speaker 6: on the rookie deal in Jackson Dart new head coach

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Speaker 6: in John Harbaugh, Colin, this kind of looks good, right,

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Speaker 6: Cam Skataboo and Kenneth Walker a won two punch very

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Speaker 6: like it, and you got on the outside, you'll have

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Speaker 6: a Malik Neighbors coming back from injury. Colin, It does

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Speaker 6: kind of feel like the arrow is pointing up in

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Speaker 6: New York. I think there's some issues on the offensive line,

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Speaker 6: but you can overpay slightly for Kenneth Walker when you

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Speaker 6: know you need a run game to take pressure off

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Speaker 6: your young quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Well he give you.

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Speaker 1: Also, between Skataboo and Walker, you're talking about guys who

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Speaker 1: were great after first contact. It's bullyball. They're they're a

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Speaker 1: little similar. Walker's got better straight line speed, but they're

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Speaker 1: similar in that very difficult once they break through the

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Speaker 1: D line. To bring them down, you'd be a very

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Speaker 1: physical John Harbaugh type of offense.

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Speaker 6: And I think you would agree. Given how many trips

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Speaker 6: Jackson Dart had to the blue tent, I mean he

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Speaker 6: was paying un in the blue tent. Harball is gonna

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Speaker 6: look at the tape and say, whoa, hey, I like

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Speaker 6: to scrambling quarterback. We need less running from you. We

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Speaker 6: need you upright. Let's get a stronger running game to

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Speaker 6: help that.

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Speaker 9: So I think you're right.

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Speaker 6: The Giants probably go from you know, up to like

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Speaker 6: seven or eight wins.

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Speaker 9: Maybe can can he can nine? Could they win nine?

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Speaker 2: Eleven? Maybe twelve?

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today the perpetually unhappy AJ Brown one of

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Speaker 1: the better receivers in the league.

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Speaker 6: What say you, yeah, I've flip flopped on this like

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Speaker 6: a politician recently. You know, I thought AJ Brown would

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Speaker 6: have like six or seven teams interested. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 6: the DJ Moore trade throws a wrinkle, like is anybody

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Speaker 6: giving a lot for AJ Brown, But I got one

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Speaker 6: for you, Colin the headline for A J. Brown this

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Speaker 6: offseason will be turn that Brown upside down. Aj All

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Speaker 6: smiles in New Nest. How about the Baltimore Ravens getting

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Speaker 6: help for Lamar Jackson adding a stretch the field number

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Speaker 6: one receiver. Ravens just saw Buffalo go all in. They

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Speaker 6: just saw hell New England passed us, Denver passed us.

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Speaker 6: Here come the Chargers. We've got to do something. Jesse Minterer,

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Speaker 6: new coach. I don't think they want to rebuild. I

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Speaker 6: just looked up Lamar's age. He's twenty nine. Colin turn

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Speaker 6: turn twenty nine in January. The clock is kind of

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Speaker 6: sort of ticking on the two time MVP. It's not

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Speaker 6: fair to say he's declining, but he's coming off a

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Speaker 6: bad year. He was injured. I think at some point

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Speaker 6: you've got to get him.

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Speaker 9: A number one.

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Speaker 6: Would you say he's had a number one receiver in

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Speaker 6: the last I don't know, three years, like a credible

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Speaker 6: number one's they Flowers is good, but he's not a

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Speaker 6: number one.

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Speaker 2: No, he's a two.

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Speaker 9: Do you think that?

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Speaker 6: Baltimore says, hey man, listen, bab Bills are all in

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Speaker 6: we're not all in and Lamar is in control. Remember

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Speaker 6: he sat in on the head coaching interviews and Lamar

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Speaker 6: was offering input into what's going to happen with this

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Speaker 6: team going forward.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today, how about instead of optimism, which NFL

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Speaker 1: team will have the worst off season?

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Speaker 9: Well, they're already.

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Speaker 6: They already got it started earlier this week. I don't

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Speaker 6: want to show my hand too early. This team is

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Speaker 6: rapidly declining. The headline for the worst off season in

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Speaker 6: the NFL will be Die Nasty Chief's crown looking a

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Speaker 6: bit wobbly, Colin, This is staggering. So Pro Football Focus

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Speaker 6: has their depth chart for defense. Yeah, I just looked

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Speaker 6: at the projected eleven starters. They have one guy who

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Speaker 6: was a former first round pick, George carl Loftis. That's

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Speaker 6: it on the projected starting lineup for the defense. The

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Speaker 6: secondary is littered with third and fourth round picks who

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Speaker 6: don't have a lot of experience. Spagnolo, he's going to

743
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Speaker 6: have to work miracles.

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Speaker 9: With that group.

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Speaker 6: And I know nobody knows what's up with Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 6: when he's going to return. Are you sure he's going

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Speaker 6: to be their Week one? I would say hell no.

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Speaker 6: And then you look at the running back situation, the

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Speaker 6: tight end. If Kelsey walks, the receiver room continues to underwhelm.

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Speaker 6: They're not Jeremiah Love away from competing in the AFC West.

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Speaker 6: And you know you want to go big picture, zoom out, Colin.

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Speaker 6: We were hot to crown Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 9: After a few Super Bowl trips.

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Speaker 6: If he misses the playoffs two years in a row,

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Speaker 6: we're gonna have to put put that on the shelf.

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Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes to go, because we know Tom Brady he

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Speaker 6: didn't miss two years in a row.

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Speaker 2: True Dad.

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Speaker 1: Finally, Tomorrow's headlines today, which NFL team will have the

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Speaker 1: best off season.

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Speaker 2: There's some candidates, there are some.

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Speaker 6: I know you want to crown the Giants, which is fine.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to go with a team kind of off

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Speaker 6: the board here. I was early on them last year.

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Speaker 6: I remember, never wrong, just early. The headline for the

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Speaker 6: best off season will be it was solid dream Titans.

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Speaker 6: Read the playbook magazine. I like this Tennessee Titans. I mean,

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Speaker 6: first of all, Sala and Dable, that's an awesome one

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Speaker 6: two punch. I think that is phenomenal. I think cam

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Speaker 6: Ward will definitely be much improved. The problem is they

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Speaker 6: don't have any dudes on offense. Their skill position of

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Speaker 6: guys are extremely weak. But they have the cap space.

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Speaker 6: And then Solo, we know what he can. He can

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Speaker 6: work magic on defenses. Did it with the Jets.

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Speaker 9: Coach them up. They don't have a lot of talent

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Speaker 9: there either.

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Speaker 6: I think between the draft and spending in free agency,

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Speaker 6: the Titans will be a surprise team in the AFC.

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Speaker 6: And I know you said the NFC's top heavy, with

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Speaker 6: maybe the three best teams in the NFC in the league.

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Speaker 6: AFC's got a lot of mediocrity and somebody's gonna get

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Speaker 6: knocked down a peg. And I think the Titans sneak

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Speaker 6: into the playoffs as a wildcard team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm kind of with you on that. I

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Speaker 1: think day Ball and Sola work and I think cam

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Speaker 1: mood was running for his life and there's nobody to

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Speaker 1: throw too. So that was a bad combination. Good stuff.

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Speaker 1: So for the record, let's throw it out there. The

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Speaker 1: Boston Celtics the Eastern Conference. The Knicks are playing well,

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Speaker 1: but the Eastern Conference, despite the fact that Nicks do

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00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: match up with San Antonio well, the Eastern conference is

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Speaker 1: wide open. The Knicks can struggle defensively again, good operators.

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Speaker 1: The Pistons have some limitations offensively, they don't score much

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Speaker 1: from the perimeter. And here come the Boston Celtics. Jason

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Speaker 1: Tatum is going to play tomorrow against Dallas and from

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Speaker 1: the volume Jason temp on what he provides.

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Speaker 11: It's all fun and games. This has been a very

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Speaker 11: impressive season for Boston, but they need Jason Tatum. He

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Speaker 11: unlocks their defensive versatility. Jason Tatum gives you another guy

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Speaker 11: who can kind of alleviate that burden on Jalen Brown,

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Speaker 11: and specifically, Jason Tatum is a much better passer, and

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Speaker 11: it's something that, as we talked about, it'll be a

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Speaker 11: little clunky at first implementing him into this offense, but

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Speaker 11: ultimately will make them more versatile on both ends of

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Speaker 11: the floor and make them a much better team against

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Speaker 11: the best competition around the league.

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Speaker 1: All Right, So that's good news for the Boston Celtics.

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00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: So J Mack, this past weekend, we had the combine.

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Speaker 1: We go into the World Baseball class like the Olympics

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Speaker 1: are over, March madness around the corner. Free agency starts

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Speaker 1: next Wednesday. I think it's official, but the deals are

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Speaker 1: all getting sort of done over the next t couple

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Speaker 1: of days. So we have a Trent McDuffie deal, Rams

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Speaker 1: going big, Super Bowl bubble, we have a Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: a lot of criticism going big at wide receiver. I

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Speaker 1: think the next shoe to drop is Max Crosby.

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Speaker 9: Probably.

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Speaker 6: Also, don't forget Lakers at the Nuggets tonight. Lakers in

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Speaker 6: desperate need of a win against a good team. It's

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Speaker 6: just an amazing time to be a sports fan. So

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Speaker 6: what's your best guess on Crosby?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think moving Dj Moore by the Bears is

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Speaker 1: a signal. And they're drafting late in the first round,

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Speaker 1: so the best edge rusher is David Bailey. He's gone.

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Speaker 6: Would you give that rue? And then the second round pick?

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Speaker 6: You just got number sixty for Max? Do you think

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Speaker 6: that's enough?

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Speaker 1: I'd rather go because of Drew Dolmond. I would if

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Speaker 1: Drew Dolman didn't retire, I'd be okay with it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I need two seconds and a third. I gotta

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Speaker 1: If I get Max Crosby, I gotta get a guard.

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Speaker 1: I need another corner. I need a They have to

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Speaker 1: upgrade at line they're not very fast. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I think Max is you remember you gotta pay Max,

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Speaker 1: so I two ones is Sauce Gardner went for two ones,

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Speaker 1: And I think Max Crosby is a much more impactful

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Speaker 1: player than Sauce Gardener.

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Speaker 6: But the ade Sauce is young.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, but I think you know SA Scott hurt

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Speaker 1: last year. Crosby's there, He's relentless, he's a culture changer,

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00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: I mean, leads the NFL since he entered and tackles

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00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: for losses over Miles Garrett. So you know, it's and

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Speaker 1: the other thing to remember about Max Crosby. The Raiders

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Speaker 1: usually trail in the second half of late in games,

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Speaker 1: so Max Crosby, this is not garbage sacks, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: but Max, A lot of teams are playing the Raiders

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00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: those last two to three drives.

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Speaker 2: They're running the ball, trying.

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Speaker 1: To eat the clock, throwing the ballot dram safe throw.

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Speaker 1: So Max Crosby, It'd be different if Max Crosby plays

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Speaker 1: for the Bears, and the Bears with their high powered offense,

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00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: lead and Max Crosby is asked to seal and close games,

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Speaker 1: so you want to see the best potentially at Max Crosby.

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Speaker 6: Max Crosby to the Eagles, AJ Brown to the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: What say you, I wouldn't bring in AJ Brown with

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00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza. I don't want that.

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Speaker 6: I mean Brown, Bowers, Genty and Mendoza.

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Speaker 9: All I know.

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Speaker 1: You could just bring in his college receiver Omar Cooper

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Speaker 1: late for draft O.

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Speaker 9: You could draft him to bring them all.

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Speaker 1: But I think Max Crosby playing for a winning team

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Speaker 1: that has leads in the fourth quarter and you can

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Speaker 1: unleash him. He doesn't get that with the Raiders. They

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Speaker 1: trail late, teams are trying to kill the clock, three

866
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Speaker 1: step drops, dump it underneath, so he doesn't get the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: He'll get massive opportunities with a team like the Bears.

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Speaker 1: It's just like, say what you want about DJ Moore

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Speaker 1: and nothing against Caleb Williams. But but Chicago has an

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Speaker 1: embarrassment of riches running back, tight end wide receiver. Djmore

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00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: will be the focal point of the vertical passing game.

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Speaker 1: So Djmore to Buffalo. That is a twelve target, nine

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Speaker 1: catch guy and he'll be there. Really their only dependable

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Speaker 1: deep threat. So I you gotta when the guy gets traded,

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Speaker 1: how does he fit into the culture and the production

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Speaker 1: of the team. Max crossed me to a good team leader.

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Speaker 1: Say Micah Parsons to the Packers, I mean green Bay

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Speaker 1: scores points they lead late. Mike is very valuable on

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Speaker 1: a good team. Micah wasn't as valuable on the Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: Did Dj Moore go, Bryce Young, Caleb Williams, Josh Allen,

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, what.

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Speaker 2: A leaf j Max back tomorrow for an hour. I'll

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Speaker 2: see you Monday.